Bros & Shows - Double O Losers (The Valley Full Recap S3E11)

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

What's up bros? We're back in our favorite place and you know that can only mean one place! - The Valley! As you can tell from all the exclamation points, we're really excited about this show. Anyway, I've spent too much time talking already so we really have to move back on to Danny's drinking. This episode is a great example of hiding storylines that might be interesting so we can continue going back to Danny's drinking. It's getting so bad at this point we don't know what to do Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, we're here to talk about the Valley again. And guess what? It's about Danny's drinking again. Guess what else are talking about? Nothing. Just Danny's drinking again. This day comes quicker and quicker every week. I feel like we talk about which Housewife franchise that we really don't like covering

and how quickly that comes back. This is one of those shows that I feel like. just finished the episode. No, we didn't. We've got more. I don't even know if we've gotten a mid-season trailer for this. I think we did. Hopefully it's over soon. It just ended. Put it put us out of our misery. Put it out of its misery. You know how we feel about this show. We don't even have to hide it anymore. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma.

And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brab Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shoots McGee. What's up, dude?

Let's try to be positive. What do we say, huh? Yeah. Good show. Yeah, let's have some fun. I'm so over just, you know, dumping and hating. So I'm going to go to the other defense mechanism and just absolutely make fun of everybody.

That's a good way to do it. Yeah. Yeah. She got to mix it up, you know? Yeah. Danny should drink more. Nope. Nope.

So you're to lose me there. You're going to lose me there. I like where your head's at. You know, we're making it light, having some fun with it. But yeah, I mean, there's not much of a preamble to be had. Like, we know where we're at. Let's just jump into this episode. and we start out with a little juxtapose scene here.

We got Brittany, Lala, and Janet. And obviously, Jason is, he's going through it. We just watched Fadra's son, Taryn MCL, and handle it better than Jason's to handle this ACL thing. Sure, it's a bummer. But now he's worried about losing his muscles. You know, I'll give him that that he's worried about missing time with his kid. But you're going to be fine, dude. But the big thing is Brandon.

I thought the big thing was going to be. And look, I know Britney's going through it. But they pans the camera over to her dogs. She's like feeding her dogs on paper towels. Like I don't know what's going on in that house. There's a white claw in there for like three weeks that somebody stumbles upon because nobody cleaned it up. Now her dogs are eating off of paper towels. I'm hoping that this is just because she has no help and she's going through it after surgery.

I'm going to give her the pass on this one. when they pan the camera over and I just see the dog on the ground, eating what looks like boiled chicken just sitting on the ground. I'm like, I hate this house. I don't like going to this house. Please sell it. Maybe it's just got bad energy because of Jacks.

So now it's just every time to go over there, it's just she can't get out of that hole either. But hopefully it's just because she's on the mend. But shocking, Brandon is out because he's a piece of shit. And now he's going online trying to defend himself, try to compare the situation to NBA players flying out. Uh-huh.

Ladies. Okay, dude. Sick. Sure. That's what you should do. Go to Twitter. That's always a good idea. You had to, you had to borrow money from Brittany.

Like, what do you? You don't, don't talk about yourself like that. What are you doing? I know. It's wild, wild work. But yeah, he flaked on her multiple times. He already heard last week, supposed to come on Wednesday. Then he's like, I can't come till Friday.

Then he's stealing money from her pretty much and leaving notes around the house at the same time saying, I love you, which is fucking bizarre. But it turns out he's, he's FaceTiming some other chick this whole time. And he got outed by Brandon's ex, DMs Brittany and says, hey, heads up, he's being a piece of shit again. This is why I left him. You should probably leave him too. But at the very least, at least she moved on from this thing.

But it's not, it doesn't give you a lot of confidence with her picker. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, it really doesn't, honestly. And the other takeaway from all of this while Brittany's still on the mend because we think, all right, maybe we'll talk about something else and we can talk about how bad Brandon is, which gets mixed in a little bit in this episode. So I guess I'll take it when I can. We immediately start talking about Danny and Nia because Brittany's on the mend and she's posting about it.

And while Nia has not reached out to Brittany directly, she is taking the time to comment publicly on all of her posts, which goes in line with what's going on with Danny and Nia. Gotta keep up appearances. Got to make it look like we're supportive friends. Got to make it look like we're a great couple. were these beautiful Christians that live out in Santa Clarita with our beautiful family. There's no problems here. We support our friends.

You didn't text Britney. Like, I'm happy that Brittany did this. But at the same time, I'm a little upset. Don't make me agree with Brittany. That's not what I want to do, you know? But they're right. You haven't even texted her, but you're going to comment. That proves kind of everything.

You guys are just doing this to put out this image of your family and who you are. That's what Danny does. That's why he wants all these kids. He doesn't want to take care of the kids. He just wants the kids. and this is proof of all of that. It seems so very little, but I think that it's all a proof that you need. But meanwhile, you've got Jesse and Doty and a few others are eating pickles.

Luke is there as well. Lacey's there. Lacey, thank you. Yeah, so I didn't write their names down there. A few others. I'm at that point with this show. But they're talking about Danny and something's happening that I knew was going to happen. and I fucking hate it that it's happening.

We're getting a potential set up for a Danny redemption arc. That's what's going on because you have Jesse drawing a line in the sand about Danny drinking. I'm sick of everyone attacking him. He got Lexi chiming in and saying, well, I've seen other people way worse than him and more annoying. It's like I feel like we're losing the plot, guys, because, yeah, sure, there's a lot of outrageous drunks on this show when they get tuned up. They don't make women feel uncomfortable and apparently have a history of doing that. And Lexi's saying like, oh, you know, Lexi, Lacey, Jesus. You've actually done that for a couple of weeks now.

I just don't correct you anymore. Lacey, my bad. Lacey, you don't really know the whole picture. You haven't seen that side of Danny and it is different. And now we have a team. We have formed a team to go to bat for Danny. We're sick of it. We're not going to stand for this anymore.

No, fucking no. No. Yeah. No, absolutely not. I hate the path that we're going down right now. I don't like the vitriol. And like we already know what it is too. When Kristen gets involved,

Kristen has completely lost me this season. I don't know if I can ever get back with Kristen. She has such hate towards Janet. And we know this. And it just comes out. Like every time that we're talking about the any's drinking, we go back to Janet. We go back to Janet.

Janet talking about them. They're, yeah, they're connected, but it can be two separate issues and it should be two separate issues. You should be able to say, yeah, whatever Janet did last year, like she went about it the wrong way. I'm not even going to give her the grace of saying, like maybe she was on to something with Danny's drinking, but maybe we should have a discussion about Danny's drinking. You can do that very easily. But I think that immediately as soon as we start talking about anything negative with Danny,

that's all Kristen does. And it's so annoying and it's so frustrating. And it's downright fucking boring. Like I'm just done with the whole thing. I didn't expect Lacey to actually have that stance. I'm very disappointed in her because she's been one of the bright spots this season to her little quips here and there. Her reactions to things that are going on. Usually she's in line with kind of what we're thinking.

So I was very surprised. She's like, oh, come on. Like, Danny, no. There's no way. Like he's just got this beautiful family. It's got a beautiful wife. I feel like they're just trying to bring him down. Like, where the fuck did you come from?

What is this? I don't want to watch this. No, it sucked. It really sucked. It bummed me out. But moving on from there, we get Zach and Jasmine, and Jasmine's getting quotes from vendors. They're getting married in Jersey. And it leads to the question where are they going to end up living and all of that stuff,

which I'm assuming we're going to get that wedding during. That's probably going to be the finale. I would guess is her wedding. I don't know. Probably. I feel like it's still a few months out, though. Maybe. We stole the invitation.

So I don't know, maybe. That's a good point. But the bigger thing is Benji and Zach are, Zach's a little nervous. because of all the bullshit currently going on in this country. Now it costs $100,000 for an H-1SB visa, and that's what Benji was going to get. So that has thrown a huge wrench into their plan, which is so fucking stupid and annoying,

and I could go on and on, but I'm not going to. Well, you know, it's funny. I actually wrote down in my notes. I'm so dumb with the storylines on this show that I actually think that they should just go full political discourse, and that would be more interesting, which is, if you know me,

the bane of my existence talking about all of the shit, going on. So I'd rather talk about that than all the other things going on in the show. Honestly, and I'm glad that this was called out because, you know, this is what this shit does. It affects real people and real lives. And it's, oh, yeah, don't get, you know, like, don't get me started. Yeah. But anyway, he's concerned about making it work with Benji, so they're a little bit nervous about their future. I have no idea what's going to happen. Like, that's a very real issue that they're having because he can't be in the United States for extended periods of time. That's a problem. we could spend more time on talking about it.

That would be nice. And have a Zach and Benji scene where Benji's talking about this and not hear about it while Zach is just discussing it with Jasmine. Look, I mean, Jasmine's the right person to talk to about it because she's one of the only people on this show that I still have faith in being a real person. So if you get a scene with Zach and Jasmine, I'm going to listen. And if we're going to talk about this, I think we owe Zach a scene of him and Benji discussing this.

Now, obviously, it's their prerogative if they want to share the whole thing. But we're talking about it. Like, it just seems like a disservice to the fans. It seems like a disservice to the show in general to not have that as an option. Yes, it's real. Yes, it's pretty dark. Yes, there's real implications. But what the fuck else do we have going on?

Oh, we have to talk about Danny's drinking again. Great. We have to save time for talking about Danny's drinking and people defending him. The same conversation. And talk to Zach and Benji about a real life issue that should be a very prevalent on reality TV. Like, it's just stupid. The fucking road that they go down that. the journey that they want to take us on.

It's such bullshit on the show. Agreed. Because again, the conversation we're going to have about Danny, we've had. And we know the- A million times. Yes, the only difference now

is that it's getting framed differently where we keep intentionally putting out Jesse saying that it's enough and Doty going to bat for them because it's setting up. And I called this in episode like three. There's going to be an attempt in a Danny redemption arc just

fucking wait. Here we are. That's ridiculous that we're going to go that route rather than focus on a real life issue. Something really fucking serious that's affecting one of your cast members, one of your best cast members in Zach. And we're not going to dig into that. That you're right. Like that's absurd. And that shows like the lack of foresight on this show. Like we don't want to talk about Danny anymore. I'd love to know more about Zach and Benji. But we get to Danny and Zach speaking of. And it's the 10-year anniversary for Nia and Danny. And I don't care. And I want to talk. Like I wish Zach knew that he drank at his party because he lies to his face right there. And then he's going to be like, we're a little worried about the post vasectomy with three kids. Well, if this was a

normal situation and you were like a normal dude, I'd be like, yeah, that might be kind of tough. But grow up. Fucker. Like, it's not the end of the world. They put the ice on your nuts and like take care of your kids fucking watch TV man I know we're gonna have like a second part and a third part part and a fourth part of this where he's pissed off that he can't work out and it's like I you know me if I can't get a workout in the morning I'm gonna be pissed off that's why I'm yelling at my wife yeah exactly him pitching about it and be like yeah look I knee is going she's going to go judge the the miss USA pageant that's down in san diego and she's bringing her mom with her but like I'm a little upset because her mom was supposed to hang out with me and take care of him.

Shut up. You're such a pussy. He is such an absolute pussy that he pisses me off so much. So anything that he says, I just immediately roll my eyes at or just get really mad about it. And Zach's doing an okay job. I mean, we agree that Zach should have done better and he should handle this a lot better than he has, especially the Jasmine piece of it because he's very close with Jasmine. But it's almost like he doesn't really want to talk about it.

Like when Danny goes on and on about this, he's just kind of like waits until he's done talking. and then changes the subject. I can't imagine being friends with this guy. No, that's what you're seeing, though. People are avoiding having the real conversation about his drinking because people don't want to admit that he is this piece of shit when he drinks. Well, Zach even says, yeah, I know I'm thinking about doing a birthday party. Like, we could all go down to Mexico and really celebrate it.

And I feel like that was the one funny thing that came from this. Zach is like, well, you know, it's Jason's birthday. day and I feel really bad. And then Danny's like, yeah, I mean, I can't imagine what he's going through. And I'm like, oh, wow, you actually have a little bit of empathy for what Jason's going through. I really thought that you were to be like, yeah, I don't fucking care about him because of what he did last year, what his wife was doing.

Maybe there is a piece in here where we've got a death in the family. We've got Jason's MCL and it'll bring everybody back together. Yeah, AC, MCL, whatever. The hell he ended up tearing. But maybe it's enough where it'll bring people back together. No, I don't think it's going to be. But yeah, when he starts going down that path of, there's going to be like a lot of booze and we're going to have a lot of fun.

You didn't drink at my party, but you know, I understand where you're coming from. Like, oh, God, dude, really? I know we're doing this. I know we're doing this and we're going to start talking about how it's really hard because he just wants to have a couple of drinks. But as soon as somebody catches him drinking, it's going to be World War III because he's not supposed to be drunk. It's like, dude, it's better to just fucking outwardly drink and have a beer and just be

confident yourself, then go sneak off. drinking the garage or go sneak off in Zach's kitchen and where only Benji can see you. Like, it's just bizarre. Like it tells me the way Zach asked that question that Benji absolutely told Zach, which we didn't see. And this is another thing. It's a fucking, it's the main storyline of this show. And we know because your cameras caught Benji catching him.

Benji probably told Zach. Zach re-asked the question. We don't get a confessional about Zach saying that Benji told him. We don't get a scene of Benji telling Zach. We just move on with our lives. It's ridiculous. Like even the storyline that we all hate, they can't even do that right. No, you're right.

It's beyond frustrating. But it's a lot on Tom. And Tom is planning a 007 theme party, a little James Bond action because he's at a good place. He wants people to finally see his house and like come hang out and just show them that he's doing well. And we get more about him and Keanu. They're saying, I love you. It seems like they're super into it, which is great. But they get to dinner with Danny and Jesse.

that little three-way dinner that they had. And this is, this is such a Schwartz episode and just like a reminder of like who Schwartz is because he's talking to Lala. And he's very agreeable about this whole drinking thing. He's like, yeah, you know,

he loves to drink and be inappropriate, but maybe like Nia is telling him that you, you just need to hide it. I think that's true, by the way. I agree. That's true. By the way.

Like, just hide your drinking. I'm like, no, that's fucking weird. like don't promote that behavior because that's so much worse and hiding it is making it worse and Schwartz is like I was I was aware it was a problem before and Lala reiterates like the moment you're hiding drinking it's a problem like that's problematic drinking period there's no

if sand that's objective fact like that's a really bad sign if you're going to do that because it leads to much worse things trust me but that's where Schwartz's like well add a little nuance to it you know he and he are trauma. from last year. Why? Why? What happened last year? Why are they traumatized?

I feel like so many people in the show have thrown out what Danny did. And they're just like, everyone's picking on them for drinking. Fucking why. That's the whole thing here. That's the whole issue. It's getting, here's what happens when you keep beating a dead horse and bringing up the same thing. It loses its impact.

Now they're like, all right, we get it. Like, he smacked Jasmine's ass. like fucking. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. You know what I mean? But like, no,

it's not to be belittled. It's a serious thing that he did. It's inappropriate. It's fucked up. And this is indicative of what he can do when he's drinking. That's a problem. But because it's continually knocked down because it's continually brought up, for some reason it just takes the ump out of it.

And that's bullshit to now we're saying they're traumatized. They are not the victims here. Okay. And I will not sit here and act like they are. the reason that people keep coming down on him is because of him. I will say a 007 party is fun. The other thing, we haven't seen that before. The other thing that I noted in this exchange while we're at Schwartz's house with Lala,

the way he talks about Jacks's roof, he's like, hey, he's got a lot more stuff than I do. Oh yeah, it's right over there. Like you can just crawl over and go hang out over there. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Oh, yeah, you guys hang out all the time. You crawl over and hang out. You crawl over and drink beers at the Hoot. that's exactly what happens here.

Otherwise, yeah, not really interested in talking more about the Danny drinking thing. I mean, we all know. That was the other thing from the Jesse scene just before this. He looks at Lacey and he's like, well, you haven't seen Darkside Danny when he's drunk. So I'm like, oh, so you know about that. You're acknowledging it. And you're still giving him a pass. Like that, it's just infuriating.

Beyond. But we get back to Brittany's house again. And she's getting ready to go to the party. Obviously, she doesn't want to go to the party. It's right next to Jackson, but she's got to tough it out and go. The fact that Brittany can go and hang out and Jason ends up going and leaving after five minutes because somebody might bump me in the party is objectively hysterical. It is very funny.

The other part of this was when we were talking with Schwartz and Lala, Schwartz told Lala, like, yeah, I, you know, I know Britney's coming over. I know I'm actually pretty excited about that. Jacks is out of town, so it's not the end of the world. Lala, at this moment while they're getting ready at Britney's, could have just told Brittany like, hey, like, Jackson's out of town. Like, you don't really have to worry about it. He's not just going to show up randomly because I feel like that's what I figured she knew.

I thought Schwartz told him that. I just assumed she knew. Maybe Schwartz did. But Brittany's sitting there like, oh, yeah, I just feel really weird going over there. It's right next to Jacks is like, I don't know. I just don't trust it. I'm like, did nobody tell you that he's out of town? Not that, obviously, Jackson couldn't lie.

I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm definitely out of town. And Schwartz immediately says, oh okay well i'm having my party that weekend so it's probably better that you don't come he would stay home he would cancel his plans to stay home so that we could see him on his balcony and wave over to brittany that's exactly what he would do yeah the fact that it is the hooters table out there is yeah sad it's just sad it's a sad existence that he lives but again we get the branded update we already talked about this uh they're done which is good thank god done like that's the last we see of him on the show yeah and la la la makes a really good point where it's like she needs to do

work on herself. Like before we have any more boyfriends, like she needs to really hunker down and figure out her shit because Jacks fucked her up so bad that she's going to continue to attract these types of dudes as we've seen. So I agree with Lala there. Again, I can't believe that we're so agreeable with Lala this season. But here we are. That's what this show's done.

But let's get to the party. And we get five words out of Benji in the beginning of it, which was exciting. Yeah. Pretty stoked about that. The most exciting thing is he. shows up in a hybrid Dr. Evil number two costume for a James Bond party

with Mr. Bigglesworth. I thought that was fucking hilarious. I also really like to think that he didn't realize that he merged two characters and that Dr. Evil wears an eye patch, but I'm okay with whatever Benji wants to do. Showing up in costume for this and not just doing the, oh, I'm going to

wear a tuxedo and look like James Bond, going a completely different angle. Very funny. I just want to give him his kudos. I use that actually is the picture for questions because I had I tagged him in there a bond villain that that looks like that I think there's a bond villain with an iPch and a cat I think that's what Dr. Evil was based on. I could be wrong. I think he well he did call him Mr. Bigglesworth later so I think he was facing it off of Dr. Evil with awesome powers.

But yeah, I mean there is a guy there is a guy with an eye patch and there's another guy with a cat. So maybe he was just kind of throwing things together. I don't know, but he called him Mr. Bigglesworth. That's enough for me. Yep. we're not talking enough about the fact that Jesse is a drinking problem oh no no we're talking too much about that not too much for Danny's sake but just the fact that we're not getting anywhere where that because nobody is standing their ground and saying hey you piece of shit get it together but yeah we're not talking enough about the fact that Jesse cannot pay for his child's

health insurance and he pulls up in a rented Aston Martin this guy yeah is fucking pathetic like that's pathetic, dude. Like, take care of your kid and drive a fucking Subaru. Like, what are we doing here? Yeah, yeah, just keeping up all appearances possible. But before we even get into the rest of this party, just take an ad break. I've had it.

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It's a four story building. And yeah, it's a lot of stairs. But we get up there eventually. And Lala brings up the meal tray. And objectively, Janet should have been included in the text. Yeah.

Like there is no defense here. Nia is taking the stance of like, of course she's not in it. Like, why the. fuck when I add her to this because it's about Brittany. I'm so glad. Beyond glad. One, it's embarrassing that Danny just bounces.

Like, okay, nice job. Do I just stick up for your wife. But Jasmine dropping as good Christians, wouldn't you want to make sure that she was taking care? I was like, fuck, yes. Like more of that. Hammer that shit. Please, please do that.

That's the only way that you're going to be able to get me drawn back into the show is if we get to watch instead of a redemption. arc further trashing, further piling on. Like, that's what I want. And I don't care if Doty and Luke are standing in the way. I don't care if you bring in somebody else to just try to help out here and there. Just go after them. And it can't be Janet.

Like, unfortunately, Janet just doesn't have it anymore. She lost her fastball. She's walking out of parties, left him right. Too rough for her to get involved. Jasmine's the person. Zach is the person. Get them involved. Please, for the love of God, dropping that bomb is incredible.

And I also think, funny enough, this discussion, if we weren't jaded towards Danny and Nia, it would have been like, all right, like, really were squabbling over like, whatever, Janet, like, yeah, maybe Michelle or Lala or somebody else could have tapped you in and been like, hey, by the way, Nia is setting up a train. I know you're not on the group chat, but if you want to get involved, go ahead. Also, Nia, you could have said, and you said here, I told you guys to include anybody that you want. No, like, that's not how that works. you should have said as a normal person in the group chat,

even if you don't want to add her to a group chat, say, hey, by the way, I know Janet's not in this group chat, but she's probably interested, so just send it her way. If you mentioned her by name, then you could stand here and be like, I told them to add you.

I'm not adding you to the group chat because we're not friends, but I did mention, like, tell Janet, let her get involved, of course. Like, this is for Brittany. She didn't do any of those things. She did like the overarching, oh, I told you guys to add anybody. Like this isn't on me.

You're making me look bad. It's like, dude, come on. And Janet could have gotten involved a lot more. She just didn't. She's just she's using that fucking, which this is annoying too because now Janet was our last hope. And if she's going to do this shit, I'm done with her too. But you can't do the, oh, I'm the villain. Everybody's coming after me.

I'm ruining everybody's night. Nobody wants to talk about me. I'm the big bad bully. All right. Like you need to grow up too. And don't say that you need to go home because your husband needs you right now. You can hang out for another half an hour. This is your job.

So I'm out on Janet now too. I agree. She needs to stand up and say some shit. Like, get involved, get in the mix, say something. Do what Jasmine just did so eloquently. But it is astounding to me that Doty's going to look Jasmine in the face and say to her, you expect that from someone who has wronged you so fucking hard in regards to Janet wronging Danny. you're saying that to Jasmine who Danny grabbed her ass last year

which is what started all of this and you're going to with a straight face look her of all people in the face and say Janet wronged Danny so fucking hard that you expect them to include Janet on a meal train are you shitting me right now like how short-sighted can you be I also just don't fucking understand

that we're really getting into It's kind of funny in a way, but I'm not really finding the humor in this show that we're really getting into a meal train. Like, this is a big issue, guys. Who's included? Who's not included? I can't believe that you would even include Janet in the meal train after what she,

like, what is going on? This is such a bizarre world. But yeah, I pretty much just wrote that in my notes. Like, cool. Now I hate Kristen Doty. That's really fun. That's a good way to live in this show. I can't believe that she actually went that way.

That was so dull. I was like, you can't be that just obtuse. Obtuce. That's ridiculous for her to say that to Jasmine. It's ridiculous to say it, period. But to say it to Jasmine is so, dude, it was fucking nuts. But upstairs, like we get to at least a place of like agreement where Nia's like, all right, like I hear you.

Okay, we're good. And Doty comes in, like kicks the fucking door down and starts yelling. Like everyone there's like, dude, we're good. We're good. Like, she's just going at him, going at him to the point that Janet leaves. And I'm glad Michelle got her. I was like, hey, you can't just be the person that keeps. Yeah, I really like this for Michelle.

Yeah, it was a good move from her. And she's really finding her own in this, uh, this season, which is a bummer. Enjoyable people. I know. Is her, her and Lala and Jasmine. And Jasmine now. Yeah, dude. What a weird show.

You get this back and forth in the kitchen where now Schwartz is getting involved and saying like, well, you never apologize. about last year. It's like, well, for the record, and I'm, I'm glad that Janet's not backpedaling on it. Yeah. She's like, well, that's what happened. And we're going with, and I don't think this is a great argument from Luke where he's like, you didn't see it. It's like, okay, that can bite you in the ass real quick. And we saw the Charles Manson line that Janet spews out here. I didn't think it was going to make any sense, but I actually agree with her. I fully agree with her. Yeah. Initially. I was like, oh, this is why no one takes you seriously. And then,

she explained it. It's like, no, my point is you don't have to see it to understand that he was a psycho. I get it. Yeah, she ties it together. And Luke playing the semantics game like, oh, so now you think Danny's a psychopath. And she's like, again, not what I'm talking about. But like, do you agree with any of the things that he's done? Do you agree with the fact that he was sexually assaulting Jasmine and her girlfriend? Like, oh, it's just hearsay. So that's all you're operating on. You weren't there. It's like, dude, what the fuck? Like, you've lost me. Your fiance's lost me. whole show has lost me. I don't understand what's going on.

I just can't imagine all these people taking that stands. It just shows who they are. Well, the crazy thing is, like, let's say that Janet finds some evidence is able to put these pieces together. That's my whole thing. You're going to stand there and yell in the kitchen.

Like, you didn't see it happen. It's like, oh, I don't think that's a great argument on this kind of topic. Like, it's a bad argument to begin with, but for this topic in particular,

like, also, Jasmine's standing right there. and Danny admitted that he did something wrong. So why? Like that's evidence enough, but no, we need more evidence.

We need so much evidence to make sure that we give this white Christian man as much possible chance of getting out of this as possible. Like that's the vibe I'm getting right now. Yeah. It's like, no, no, no. Danny can do no wrong.

He's a father. He's a husband. He's a good devout Christian. He's a good father. And we need more than just one or two incidents. We need more Danis. We need more Danis, Jesus. Christ, could you imagine that? But no, we need more evidence to actually start thinking that maybe he's

doing something wrong. It's like, that's just fucking crazy to me. It's a fucking weird thing to say. Yeah. And I think that that's where we're at at this point. And that's what I was talking about like, we keep talking about it. So now we're at this juncture where it's like they're making excuses for everything. It's like that there's routes to go if you want to defend him, I guess. But like this is not the way to do it by any means. But Jesse and Michelle, I don't. understand why this conversation was necessary. I don't know what the fuck Jesse's doing. I do, but I don't.

It's not. I thought it was a nice combo. I didn't. I was like, why bring this up? Well, the combo itself, I don't know what the fuck's going or through either of their heads at any time.

I'm starting to understand Michelle a little bit better. And she seems a little bit more normal. But I do think that all of their conversations are like this, where it just starts off very weird, little contentious, doesn't really make any sense. The origin story of why one person or the other person is feeling the way that they do. I've never understood those things. It's always the end of the conversation that I

focus on, whether it's then actually agreeing to get divorced in a coffee shop last week and getting to a weird place where now she's crying and she's saying that she's mourning their relationship. But he starts off and I guess, no, I can't obviously defend it, but he's trying to say he feels like she hurt his feelings because at the coffee shop she was saying she's crying because she's sad about them getting a divorce, but then later she said she was crying because she's so happy to get out of that toxic environment. It's like, okay, it can be both, buddy. That's exactly. That's the thing that didn't click in his brain. Like he only focused on the one thing. He's like, she's lying to me still. She just did that. So we would get divorced. It's like, dude, you should

want to get divorced at this point. It doesn't make any sense. And I felt bad for Michelle when she's going through everything. She's like, look, I mean, I see how you are with Lacey. Like I thought She was going to say you do the same things with me or you did the same things with me and then it fell apart. Instead, she was like, yeah, you're doing all these things in your new relationship that you never did with me. We never had any physical touch. We never had any of that lovey-dovey shit. And it's just tough to watch. I'm like, damn, I feel really bad for you because that must suck.

And again, you're being forced to film a TV show with your ex-husband. That's brutal. So you're going to see those things and that really sucks. But I think all Jesse really needed to hear was it's both. It can be both. Like, yes, of course, I'm mourning our relationship and all the things that we've, went through, but I'm also just happy to be done with it. Like I've got this breath of fresh air where I have the rest of my life ahead of me and I

can figure those things out. But at the same time, I'm not really holding any animosity towards you. And at the end of it, I feel like Jesse finally understood and got to a point where you understood. And it ended up, they ended up, which is all you really focused on with the Jesse Michelle combo, they ended up in a much better place at the end of the conversation than they started with. So again, I'm taking that as a win. I'm taking that as a nice combo in their book.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, at least Michelle, Michelle I'm liking, like, you know, but let's get to some questions. Benji reposted our story. Good, good. That's what I want. I don't really get this. I just think it's kind of funny from Scarlet Medusa. The moment Brittany entered the party, the food trade should have ended right then. I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, she's still going through it. She's just. getting out of the house. She even said, like, this is the second time I've been outside of my house.

Yeah, I think we can still provide food for her. I think we can still provide food to her. People feel so strongly about food trains. I think it's so funny. Oh, this is fun. I get to do this,

this bit from Coopie Poopie. Have either of you ever met Benji and Zach in person? I think they're leaning into the bit, which I very much appreciate. Have either of you, parentheses, steel, ever met Benji and Zach in person,

parentheses steel. They're leading into the Southern Charm premiere bit. That's awesome. You don't like, good for you, Coupie. That's really good. You spell my name wrong. There's no E at the end. But everybody does that.

I wonder if AutoCorrect does it. I don't know. I've been getting to my whole life. But that is top tier questioning. Well done. Yeah. Way to play into it. I love that.

Coopie Poopie MVP. This is a good point for Madwold. Kristen is so conditioned to be quote unquote loyal. She's loyal to the wrong people, Stasi Crums. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually very. very true very true lash 16 why are christin look defending me and danie like this what do they have

on them i don't know it's so weird and like i think that they're gonna look or i hope they're gonna look back at this one day and be like oh fuck yeah i have no fucking idea uh from teagle now do you think the production made jacks go away so the tom could have his stupid janky party the double seven party was fun i mean yeah i had a good time though is very bizarre but i thought that the the theme was pretty cool. Also, production has no control over Jacks anymore, I would imagine. So I would imagine he actually had something that he had to go to, not the rehab that he was supposed to go to. Mm-hmm. Angie Fox, what happened to the fun show from season one? I've lost hope. Yeah, it's, it's,

uh, it's taken it quite the turn. Yeah. I love this from Rachel Nicholas, Kindly reminds people not to nasty DM Danny Pellegrino. Mistaking him for Danny Booko. That's so funny. Some people aren't too bright. Sarad Dee, did you see the allegation against Danny's dad? The pastor, shitty men raising shitty boys. I know, but I'm going to dig into that tonight.

I will not be. I don't need any more. From chado potato. I always love that I say that wrong. It's definitely like chato potato. But you know, potato potato. What are you going to do? Chato Chato Chato Chado.

The Valley has sadly become a show I just put on the back on for background noise. Look, I don't even think my girlfriend can put it on for background noise at this point. She's so dumb with it. But I think it's actually gone so much lower than background noise, which I support fully. We have to watch it, though, unfortunately. Yes, we do. We can end on this one from Vanez. Over this show, can you all share about your friendship?

and how Bravo started. We have been BFF since high school. We met freshman year. And we both watched Bravo and we talked about it. And we were at a party and we were talking Bravo with some of the ladies at the party. My wife said you guys just start a podcast. I took it seriously. And here we are.

That's what happens. So yeah. There you go. It's the average version. We can do a weird French. episode at some point when there's less things on. Yeah, not right now.

There's a lot of, but one day we'll give you guys the background of the bra-bros. I feel like editing that one would be kind of tough because I'd be going through it. Like, you know what? Maybe we shouldn't put that out there. Oh, boy. Well, yeah, not a lot of hope for this show.

We just got to get through the season at this juncture and see what the fuck happens. I don't know. But that's all that. You got anything else? Nope. Well, that's our show. Rob pros are out of here. Hi, we're Meg Bashwinner. And Joseph Fink.

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