Bros & Shows - Dueling Dinners, Mini Manners (Ladies of London Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

What's up bros?? We have a much needed reprieve from the rest of the reality world with one of our favorite shows that just keeps on getting better. After the fallout from Kimi's comment about Misse's brother, it seems we're pivoting to a new potential villain (or scapegoat) in Margo. Thankfully, we get dueling dinners to stoke the fire in much different ways but poor Martha finds herself in the middle of it all. We never know what to expect next with this group and we wouldn't want it any other way! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With all the craziness going on, this show has become like my escape. I just turn this on and I can tune out the noise of the summer house drama. For 42 minutes, I can just finally focus on one thing. And that's these delightful ladies of London. Just escape to London town, they say. So I say, like for London town. I say whatever. Yeah, it makes it so much worse when you're eating too.

You're gross. I'm done now. I just had a few honey roasted cashews for dessert. Shall we kick it off then? As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.

I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brab Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen.

I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by Shooter McGuder. What's up, dude? I feel like a relief pitcher that's been pitched too much, and it's still the regular season. You know what I mean?

Just overworked, overtired, too much going on. And thankfully, we have ladies in London because what a show that, what a delightful show this is. And obviously, the content isn't exactly

delightful. It still is, honestly, in the grand scheme of things. It's just, it's enjoyable to watch. It's so much fun. It's so entertaining. I don't know where I would be without this show. I don't know if it's their accents or their vocabulary, but regardless of what they're talking about, it sounds

good. Their vocab is very good. And that's a huge change up because we're used to watching like housewives that can't really form a sentence yelling at each other. And they use the same word over and over and over again. And a lot of times those words become tropes.

But you go over to this show, they've got fucking pheasuruses in their back pockets. They're just pulling them out. They're ready to go. I know. I don't know, man. They can talk about the fact that, again, Kimmy was talking about Missy's dead brother in a not so flattering way.

And yet it didn't come off that harsh. Yeah. It came off funny, honestly. I would argue it came up pretty funny. But it wasn't a funny thing. But the way that she's got that like interesting like English American accent. It's like a hybrid of the two, which I really enjoy. But yeah, I don't know.

Maybe they're just so delightful that no matter what comes out of their mouths, it's like, wow, what a great show. But it's the perfect show to recap after the 48 hours that we've all had, you at home included, if you're keeping up with the summerhouse drama. We've been through the ringer. And it's mentally draining, physically, emotionally, spiritually, you name it. It takes a toll. But let's jump into this week's episode of this lovely, lovely show. And as always, if you're not watching this show, stop this episode, go start the show, and then come back here later. Okay.

You get a pass to start next week. If you want to finish up the week and keep digging on West at Amanda, I'm not going to blame you. But you could start Monday. We start Monday more. Diet starts Monday, everybody. But we are driving in London with Micah, who is a terrible driver. And to the point where, and she said that, not me, the point where if she gets one more ticket, she loses her license to which I need a list of her tickets thus far.

How many do you have? What did you do? What happened? Well, she kind of paints a picture because she says that there's, speeding cameras everywhere, red light cameras everywhere. It's just difficult to get away with anything, which I would always ask, what do you try to get away with? When you just figure it out, you know, for me, after the first ticket, I'd be like, okay, where are

the speeding cameras that are here, here, here, and here, okay, but I won't speed in those areas. I think it's pretty quick. It's very funny, though, because it's almost like we escaped to London, but then we have to remember, like, Micah hasn't been there her whole life. She's only been there for a short period of time. So she's still learning. I imagine that it's a process a bit to not only get your license, but then if you lose it,

I can't imagine trying to get it back as an ex-pat. You don't need to get an English license. Your driver's license from the States works. No, not for long-term. It doesn't. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, you have to, if you're going to be a resident over there, you have to get it.

My girlfriend's friend lives over there, and she has to go through as a 28-year-old or 29-year-old. she has to go through the permit test and then she has to go through the driver's test. And that is very comical to me. That makes sense. Yeah, I didn't think about the residency part. I have driven on the other side of the road. And it is hard.

Just not for a long time. No, for a couple days, I would imagine it's probably a little darn. Like after the first day, the only thing that you got to like be careful of is you instinctively drift because you want to be on the other side. So like that. And then remembering that left turns. are shorter. They're not like, where in the States,

you turn left and you got to go wide because oncoming traffic's to your left. That was hard to learning. So it's like a turn on red would be a left turn. So those are the hard things. But yeah, I call it the Perth pistol was my, my little blue car.

Yeah, I really like that. Yeah. For Micah, you know, I get all of the things that you just said. It sounds like she's doing way worse. I know.

Yeah, she's just breaking. She's backing. into cars she doesn't know where she's running a hard herbs children dogs cats am i allowed to go over oh that so that weird squiggly line where everybody walks i can't go over that uh okay no that's the same over here it's not squiggly it's it's very clearly a crosswalk you can't go over that that's just rule of thumb maybe people walking when they're all walking in nudison you don't drive over that jim kerry and liar liar stop breaking the law asshole um martha mika and kimmy are out to

lunch. And valid question here, ketchup. I think they call it tomato something over there. What do they call it? Tomato sauce? Tomato sauce? Tomato sauce. I don't know. But the ketchup on the eggs thing, which is obviously we all do that over here. They love ketchup, but just not on eggs. So there you go. But big mayo fans, which I agree, Mayo rocks. I think Mayo gets a bad rap. But anyhow, Micah is under a lot of pressure. because Micah is trying to go the route of, I can only describe as like a Miss Rachel route. Like she wants to start her own children's show.

And it is very, when we see a glimpse of it later, that's exactly what I got was okay. She's trying to do like the British Miss Rachel. Only she's American in London, but whatever. etiquette more than, you know, learning her alphabet and everything else. Many manners. Many manners.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is a labor of love she describes it as, which, you know, that's cool actually it's it's way different i mean again that's another thing and i i feel like i do this all the time but when we're watching the shows over in the states i mean everybody's got a fucking cocktail line everybody's got makeup hair care whatever it might be getting into many

manners as a new business opportunity it's exciting i'm i'm really excited for it investors are talking about it everyone's excited about this i'm invested i'm curious how it's going to go i my issue was not so much the show at all i like that we get to watch this kind of hopefully grow. It was just the name. You know, is that really going to take, oh, let's go watch mini manners. I don't know. Maybe.

Maybe not. I mean, maybe she could workshop that a little bit. It sounds like she's been doing it for a few years. I mean, she says that she's kind of had this kind of going in the background, I guess. She's focusing on the main component of her job, but she's working on this in her free time, which is great. I don't know. Maybe you do workshop the name.

Maybe that's something that we have to do. But if it's going to work, it's going to work. And I love that. Yeah, I hope it does. That'd be a fun. to be able to cover on a Bravo TV show is a children's puppet show. But obviously, the talk of the town is still the Missy and Kimmy and Margot drama. And I love Kimmy so much, genuinely, because this has now become Margot's fault entirely.

And her default answer of, it wasn't that bad until Margo, like, no, what you said was actually pretty bad. And you're somehow so convincing that I'm starting to question whether or not it was that bad. And then we get a clip of it. I'm like, oh, yeah, no, it was fucked up. But the way that she's so good at like spinning it and gaslighting that I believe her almost. I'm like, I think I'm team Kimmy. I'm definitely Team Kimmy. Team Kimmy until I die.

I decided that last week. But it's just really funny. And I don't know because like we can't even really talk about what got her to pushing this agenda that it's all Margo's fault and now she's going to go after Margo because there's not enough context there and it doesn't seem like their friendship or really runs that deep or has been going on for that long that she'd be able to just kind of like pull things from the past like no she always does this six months before filming that da da da or whatever it seems like they just met in the last couple of weeks maybe a couple of months so I don't know I'm just so

enthralled to see where it goes because I know there's going to be so many different spins I know there's going to be so many sharp turns here and there if Mike is in the car obviously hopefully she's not driving for that sharp term because she'll crash. But I know that it's going to end up in a completely different place. And I'm just excited to see where it goes because it doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm fully okay with that. It's a weird sensation. Yeah, but the thing that really comes through this scene,

and we've seen this kind of across the board for the most part, not everybody, because I do, I don't agree with how she got there, but I do think that Margot Shady. I do think that Kimmy's on to something there. She is. I don't, not for the reasons that she's trying to use, but I'm like, okay, I see what you're saying. It's a means to an end, though. Sure.

Maybe she's thinking the same thing that we are right now. Like, we can see there's bits and pieces here where Margo might be shady. I'm going to get ahead of this now. And even though she's loosely connected to all of this, I'm just going to pin the whole thing on her just to see what happens. Great. Fine. Works out. Yeah.

We're down. What's great about Kimmy, as I was saying, with the majority of the cast. at least thus far, they're very authentic and they're very self-aware. And like the self-awareness factor is something we really don't get on Bravo or reality TV very often. It's actually quite the opposite. So to see Kimmy say things like, look, I'm not nice. I'm not polite, but I'm loyal as shit. And now she's on my shit list.

Translation, she's a ride or die friend. She's going to give it to you straight and she's kind of an asshole, but she's your asshole. And I love that. But like, if you look across the board, pretty much everyone, again, it's early. But what you see is what you get. Martha, very straightforward. We know what we get.

Missy even, you know, Lottie. Like, they're all just themselves in the best way. And it's so good to watch them, like, interact. Even the people that haven't been friends for that long. It's like they have more chemistry than half the shows in the States. Yeah. No, you're definitely on to something with all of that. And the cast as a whole is just so good and they operate so well together.

I think it's going to be interesting to watch too just because I want to see how Kimmy reacts to all of it and also the good thing for me and something that really shines for me through this show and what we can expect in the hopefully coming seasons is we had it's a very even though we're laughing about it it's a very dark issue that Kimmy was poking fun at Missy's brother dying

but we're moving on from that like we are we're done it was an episode like we talked about it. We had a little bit of fun with it. We've reflected on it and said, yeah, it is pretty dark, but it's also kind of funny that she did it this way. And now we're moving on to Margo. Like, we're done. We're done with a very dark issue that could have just hung over our heads for 10 episodes and then maybe get resolved at the reunion if they have one, God willing. But instead, it's like, nah, we're actually done with that. You know what, Missy? I feel like we sat down when I talked to her. I've got a lot of respect for Missy. I understand where she's

coming from. She understands where I'm coming from. It's just who I am. That's okay. We can move on from all of that. I've got a problem with Margo. Let's talk about Margo. I love that. That's perfect because it's such like a weird, like nuance. It's such like a weird surface level thing. But instead, Kimmy's just thinking on a deeper level like, ah, I don't know.

I don't trust Margo. I'm going to poke and prod that and see what happens. Great. Again, awesome. We're down. But Joshua and Lottie, who you could give them their own show, honestly, and I would watch every single episode. so interesting and captivating.

And usually when I see people like Joshua, I'm like, this is all an act. It's a front. It's not. That's who these people are in the best, quirkiest, weirdest way possible. And they want to do a gender reveal because they saw it on TikTok. And they're like, look, it's, it's an American thing,

but it's getting a little bit bigger. So we want to do it too. And the first thing that we had talked about previously was like the nanny situation, like what a lot is going to do as far. As the kids, Margo not helping herself. She's like, oh, we had three nannies. Like that, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, tone it down a little bit.

But Lottie, I assume, came from more humble beginnings originally because she's like, well, we didn't have names. My mom had four kids and it was mom all the time. Come to find out, dad was a CEO of whatever company he ran. And the CEO has liver cancer, which is very sad. I think we learned about that last week. Yeah, and he also passed away last week. Oh, no. Like in real time.

Yeah, I know. I know what you meant. Oh, that's a bummer. Well, that's super sad. But the nice thing is Lottie shares it with us at home. Their relationship has gotten even better in the later years. And she's stoked that dad can show up to things like this. And we just get more of the Lottie and Joshua vibe more than anything.

It's just fun to watch these two kind of operate and do their thing. Cut the cake. It's a boy. this scene is confessional so small but this is where I'm like these two are going to stand the test of time this family's going to last forever because it's like oh and then we get the mini oh the minisuits yes we'll do minisuits I'm like yes mini suits as soon as they said that I'm like looking forward to season three season four that baby in a minisuit is going to crack me up and I cannot wait for that like I want to fast forward but I don't want to actually I do want to fast forward so I do want to fast forward so

I can go back and just watch everything in a row. I just want to binge the whole thing. Same. I think it's really funny because I wonder, it obviously sounded really weird, but I wonder how many women have had that thought when they're having a boy. And they're like, oh, I've got a Willie inside of me. It's like, oh, what a strange way to say. You're having a boy.

But at the same time, like, yeah, that must be a strange feeling, I suppose. She says it to her mom, too, which is even fun here. Yeah, I know. She didn't really know what to do with it, but it was very fun. Now we have dueling kitchens, dueling dinner parties. You got Emma and you got Margo. Both of them are having a new party. Margo, we get to see her new house, which is quite the house.

Quite the house. Quite the house. Now, Lottie was very nice about it. Is this the same house she was talking with Martha about where it was in architectural digest and she really wanted it and it was over budget? Because they didn't make a big deal about it. So I'm assuming not, but who knows? I don't know.

I know it's $40,000 a month. Yeah. Which is just, I can't even fathom that. Yeah. But it's got like a pink room and a yellow room and and a green room and all these wacky colors. Lottie was very nice and saying, yeah, it's not really my style. But if she likes it, cool, I think it's ugly as shit. And I like funky houses.

It just looks dated. Maybe you like American funky houses. it may be you know like uh marge i loved marge's house yeah pose boz has a great house yeah those those houses in america probably hit a little bit different but when you go over to europe you want like more of the classical like a tuscan house that's what you're looking forward to i'm down whoa i yes tuscan house yes that's not what that was i love a tuscan house no no no i'm saying that's what you want i see the european version of a funky house you're like uh Correct.

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But while we're touring the house, we're just getting kind of the rundown. As we know, Margo's trying to kickstart her career again. She reminds us frequently that, you know, she had one of the sexiest films in London's history, which is where she had sex on camera. Yeah. And I don't really have to say it. But she FaceTime's Martha. And Martha lets her know, like, hey, heads up.

Kimmy's talking shit. She said you're a snake in the grass. And this is why I love Martha. Martha is so middle of the road and refusing to take aside, but we'll also speak her mind, which we don't see ever. And she's like, yeah,

you know, you didn't tell her something like she didn't need to know that. They shouldn't need to know that. It's like, well, I mean, yeah, she probably did.

Like for the show standpoint, period. But on top of that, like from a nice person standpoint, she should know about that, especially because Missy made it very clear like, hey, if stuff's going on, like, I want people, I want you to tell me what's going on. So this is all laid out in front of us.

And she lets her know so she can kind of get ready, which is the best timing because that means at dinner, we have something to talk about. Yeah. No, I think Martha is going to be, she's going to be interesting. I mean, we already know she's very quirky. But when she turns on like her serious attitude, it's going to be interesting to look at. Because I want to see how everybody else reacts to it. Like we see we've seen her just completely balls to the wall all over the place bouncing around making jokes, making distasteful jokes, not really picking aside, not doing this or that or whatever.

But if she gets a little serious, that's what I kind of want to see. I want to see how well-rounded she is. I would think that it would be a quick hit. And then she'd get back to like normal Martha. But I think it's in there. So we had like a close to a glimpse of it when she had that conversation with Margo in the store's locker. But I do love that she's like, Look, honestly, I think you're both wrong and horrible right now, by the way.

And she's like, here's saying that because you're stuck in the middle. She's like, damn right. I don't want to be in the middle. And Margo calls out Kimmy saying she better rar because she's looking like a little bitch. I was like, hell yeah. All right. Like it doesn't seem like a place that Martha would want to be is in the middle between these two. No.

Because I don't think that she strikes me as somebody who wants to be tugged from either side. Like, no. I don't want to be stuck in the middle of it. any of this. Don't make me pick a side, please. I just want to be a bystander. I just want to be sitting over in a corner just with a drink, kind of making some jokes, watching you guys go back and forth, and then clean up the mess afterwards with both of you. I don't want to have to pick one side or the other. And it seems like we're on the route now that Kimmy's going to try to force her hands. Like, nope, you actually have to pick my side.

If you don't, then we're going to have some problems. I'm going to talk shit about your dead brother. And the funny part about our dueling kitchens is on one hand you have i'm just going to call her royalty i know it's the aristocracy but like who cares on one hand you got royalty and emma is a borderline trained chef she makes beautiful plates she loves cooking she's been to classes she's done all this cool shit she's hosted dinner parties blah blah on the other side you got margot cutting open a bag of shit and pouring it into a baking dish and being like hosting is hard like yeah i want to go to emma's party first of all yeah yeah Emma, I was surprised and not surprised because obviously, you know, my first thought, people cook for her.

But then when I watched her cook and her culinary presentation of everything, I'm like, no, yeah, no, this actually checks out completely. I actually fully expect her to be able to just throw on a five course meal and be, and still in like a beautiful dress with a nice apron, a very tasteful apron on top, take it off and still look great. Like that, that is actually exactly what I would expect from her. Yeah, exactly. that comes out with like a big platter, pulls the big, shit, what's it called? It's not a charger.

You know what I'm talking about. Pulls the big thing off and it's like a whole like roast pig. I've never known what the word is for that. I used to know. Yeah. I know what you mean. Mm-hmm. That's,

but I have the same image. Like she pulls that and it's like her dress is spotless. You got a tune into mini manners. Mini Manners. Many manners. Is it on? Wait. That's actually a good question.

I'm going right to YouTube. many manners many manners fun it is it's up skills for kids sign up my god what you mean sign how many episodes are there helping little minds grow big hearts manners aren't just rules they're how we show care for ourselves others in the world around us built with experts made for real life welcome to my wow 45000 subscribers good for micah hell yeah that you could make a living off of 40,000 subscribers fantastic good for her How many videos does she have? She's got a lot.

Wow. I'm so stoked for this. It's been going for a full year. This is July 4. 2025. No, dude, there's five years ago she was putting stuff up. So she was probably doing it in her, yeah, yeah, it really kicked into gear. She's got four videos from five years ago.

And then everything else is from eight months ago. So she's been working on it. That's so fun. What is seven days ago. Good for you, Micah. We love that. Yeah, we're big fans. Hell yeah.

many manners yes yeah me and scotty are going to watch that tomorrow i'm going to put on some many manners and i'll give you guys a rundown don't help just put it on just don't say a goddamn word oh that's put it on and then have her come downstairs me like what the hell are we wow oh she hasn't she hasn't watched this episode yet so i really could get her good this is perfect yeah okay i'll report back everybody don't worry yeah now let's get back to dinner one like i said fancy schmancy nice dinner party other ones margot who is forcing people to drink non-alcoholic wine because she's trying to be nice to loti which was nice i really made me laugh because like knowing in the u.s if this was a similar setup and i'm going to do this a lot the comparison

i feel like here people would just grin and bear the non-alcoholic thing like oh thanks missy continuously like this i want wine where's the why i want wine was probably be my favorite part of the dinner. Like, why are you serving me this with flowers? You know, it's funny. We've actually seen, and this is just funny editing, I guess, across the board. But every dinner that they go to, Missy's sitting there like, can I, can I order something an alcoholic right now?

Can I just get this, please, for the love of God? Why are we waiting so long? So it kind of just built up to that. So now that I'm thinking about the first couple episodes, she was doing that already. So we already kind of set the stage for that. Now we're getting over to Margot's and she's not serving wine. and when she finally pulls out that bottle of wine, it's like, yay big.

Yeah, you can get a glass and a half out of this. You have a shot of shardine if you'd like. Yeah. I think that's just the European versus American difference. Like when it comes to alcohol, like when you go to Europe, it's much different. Like the culture around alcohol is nowhere near what it is here. You know, they go to lunch.

I wrote that down in my notes earlier when they're having lunch. Like, it's not, ooh, when we watch shows here, it's like, are we going to have a drink? Are you going to have a drink? There, it's like, immediately order. They don't even hesitate. Yes.

It's already known that we're going to be sitting down and drinking, which is fun to watch. But more like over here, it's like problematic drinking. And then you go over there and they're not drinking necessarily less than the average person over here. But they're just very quiet about it. Yeah. It's with some class. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Problematic drinking with class. Yeah. Yeah. It's what everybody wants to see. but Martha again love Martha so much because she just calls out Kimmy because Kimmy's talking shit immediately I love that she does this anytime she's got a feud with anybody she just talks shit to whoever's around her and tries to get them to either slip up and say something stupid and agree with her or just poking prod and she's poking prod and she's poking prodding Martha she's like

Martha likes Margo because she's like her bird it'll peck your eyes out ha ha ha Kimmy bollies it right back She's like, you're just pissed off because Margarov maneuvered you. Oh, hell yeah. Let's go. And when they start getting into the whole thing, it's like, look, it was a genius maneuver. She came and she sat on the other side of you. You were having to turn your head back and forth.

You got frazzled. You got rattled. She won. And that makes you mad. I love that she checked her like that, especially as a friend. Yeah. And Kimmy's not going to like that, as we see. That is not the right thing to say.

So it is funny, too, because we didn't like warm up to the idea of maybe even talking about this, it was more just like, if you want to throw me in the middle of this, I'm going to make a statement that you're really not going to like. Margo out maneuvered you. Margo out pettyed you. She got into a position where you had to turn. She was sitting in your blind spot. So you couldn't just continue the conversation. You can't hold court. You have to turn completely around to talk to her. You could have just not talked to her. Like now that you're thinking back, it's like, you shouldn't have even turned around. You should just put your hand up and said Margo, I'll deal with you later. But no, you fell right into the trap. And it's really funny too because we're talking about all of this. And again, we talked about

at the beginning of the episode, the fact that Kimmy just completely pivoted and went after Margo, it doesn't make a ton of sense. But right now, it doesn't make a ton of sense that Margo would go over there to try to hold court and force you to do something. But it's still very funny. A whole situation is just, it's all a bunch of shit that I would never think of. And yet it's incredibly funny. Yep, I agree. It's incredibly captivating. And I think Kimmy gets a little frazzled in this situation because she changes tactics. She's like, yeah, well she has no style i don't like her jumpsuit and you don't like it either and martha's like whoa whoa whoa whoa i i have no problem with her style because kimmie's trying to bash her entire

look she's like i didn't say that i said that one jumpsuit i wasn't a fan of but i she's like ah yeah you do you know you hate her style i know you hate she's just trying to get her riled up and i love that martha's even funnier when martha looks at her she goes oh i don't like that jumpsuit at all i just don't like crushed velvet what do you want from me i i didn't say anything about the rest of her style. I just didn't like that jumpsuit. Yep. And she's going to a confessional just like almost pleading like, I have no issue with you, Margo. Like, I like your style. Don't listen to Kimmy. This is all bullshit. Yeah. But on the other side, you've got Margo and her dinner party. And obviously they bring up

Kimmy and she's on a warpath. And Micah, who to her credit has not spilled the tea at all. She's sitting there quietly until she's called upon. She's like, Mike, you were with them. She's like, what's that? me me mica um yep yes i got a parking tickets yeah i sure was but uh mini manners guys i'm doing many manners so she tries to change the subject but what it really gets down to when we see these two feuding dinner tables if you will kimmy has successfully shifted everything to margot there is still a conversation we're going to get to very shortly with kimmy and missy to kind of squash it. And I think that's very intentional from Kimmy. I'm not so sure this would have happened

if she wasn't trying to fully pivot to Margo. I think that she's doing this to clear the air with Missy because then everybody can go, you're the problem, Margo. Me and Miss, you're fine. Yeah, that's exactly what she wants. She wants people to start thinking about it, maybe start planting some seeds, thinking about how Margo's been acting over the last couple of weeks. Is she trying to push people in different directions? Is she manipulating situations? Is she the real mastermind behind all of this. Is she being really petty and trying to control everything? Maybe it's going to get you thinking, you know what?

Just in case you're not sure, I'm going to get Missy on board. Because if I sit down with Missy, squash it very appropriately and then start shifting focus over to Margo, maybe Missy will see that. And honestly, maybe Missy will. Like, why not? Who knows? I mean, Kimmy's very fucking convincing. She's extremely convincing.

It's one of her superpowers. She talked shit about Missy's brunties. brother being murdered. And yet somehow, I think most of us are either on her team or adjacent to because she's just so delightful. But Micah, we get to see the inner workings of mini manners and her set up for everything. She's working on it. And we learn her husband's been out of town for like four days a week.

So it's been kind of nuts. She says like, you know, this is the first time I've ever had my emotional and mental health off balance, blah, blah, blah. So she's going through it, getting many manners up and running. as we know from our very astute research about five minutes ago. Journalists? It's going. Yeah, we are journalists.

So many manners is off and running. And hopefully she's feel a little bit better about the whole thing. But it was kind of cool to kind of see this whole thing, the behind the scenes. Like you said early on, I love that this is an angle of this show. This is such a random thing. We've never seen anything like this. So this is a lot of fun. Mike is a very random angle of this show.

Yeah. I mean, when you go through the whole. past, it all makes sense. It all makes sense. It all makes sense. And then up until this episode, I'm like, Mike is just kind of sticking out like a sore thumb. I don't really understand what she does here.

I don't understand what her connection to the group is, how she fits in. And yet it just seamlessly all goes together. Like, I can't even really put it into words after watching this episode, but I'm just completely okay. I'm like, yeah, no, makes sense. Mike is there. Great. Yeah, exactly. Very interesting.

I think about the show without Micah now. And I'm like, no, like it doesn't flow the same. We need her. Yeah. it's almost like she is the like the innocence barometer like she seems so

pure and nice that like it's really funny to watch her in these situations such as at the dinner we're like Micah you were there she's like no shit yeah I was I think it's not good manners to talk shit everybody on the cast can have a moment where

and like some more than others where they can be a little bitchy where they can look at somebody else and say something completely off color or whatever it might be, you need one person to steer you in the direction of good, good. It's like a moral compass. We've got Micah there. Whatever she says is probably what's for the best in morality causes.

Everybody else, obviously, I have no problem with the things that they're saying, but we do need like a true north where it's like, okay, was this really fucked up? Let's see what Mike has to say. Yeah, I didn't really care for that. Exactly. She's our go-to personally. Let's check in with Micah. Yeah.

It was fucked up. All right. Thank you, Micah. Next time, do it with a puppet. That was fucked up. That would be great. I hope she brings a puppet into this somehow. Oh, God, yeah.

Like, we need at least one scene where they're arguing and there's a puppet involved. Please. Yeah. But the episode ends with Kimmy and Missy sitting down. And again, like, Kimmy is not apologizing. She is, but she's not, like, but she, it's so hard to describe. because she's remorseful, but not for what she did, but for the fact that Missy's sensitive.

So she's like, look, this is who I. I didn't know you were so sensitive. Right. You're so sensitive that I can't make fun of your dead brother like, Jesus, all right, like I won't do it in the future. Sorry. Yeah. Cry baby.

But she's not really apologizing for saying it. she's just apologizing for Missy being upset and saying in the future I'll do better to not upset you now that I know how you are on the same side. I kind of like you because you got balls, you know, you got balls. I fuck with you. And like that's what's great with a person like Missy or Kimmy, sorry.

She's like the no bullshit person. Like she's going to straightforward tell you what's up no matter what. You might not like it. But she's going to do it with a smile and you're probably going to have a drink with. later on. Even Missy's like, I can't really stay mad at this woman. And they end up squashing it, which is even better. And I think Kimmy does enough to get in Missy's head about Margo somehow. She's like, you guys need to talk about it. But I think it's going like spinning in her head. Like, is Margo the problem? I think this whole conversation is very fine and very warranted too,

because we don't really know how far they go back. I mean, it's still early in the season. They may only know each other sparingly. So this is weirdly a boundaries conversation. where it's like, okay, yeah, I don't really know you that well. So maybe I did something that was insensitive to you, not necessarily to everybody. And I apologize for that. The fact that it disrupted your sensitivity, I didn't know that you were that sensitive. So now I do know. Now we've got boundaries.

So I won't cross that boundary again. I'm sure she will. But I won't cross that boundary again now that I know where that line is. Maybe she won't, honestly. I really don't. I think she's got like some fucked up moral compass. Like it is there, but it's just kind of a little. edgy. Now, but like, it's a conversation that needed to be had. So, yeah, now that we've cleared

the air and we understand all of this, I'm okay with you. I love you, actually. I think you've got balls of steel. I appreciate the way you do this. I respect the shit out of you for sitting down with me and taking it on the chin and still walking out of there. Like, you know what? We're not going to see I and I fuck you. You could have folded, but you didn't fold and I respect the hell out of that. Now for Margo, let's talk about Margo. She played a very intrusive role in all of that. Don't you think, Missy, now that we're friends, we can talk about this. I love that. It's such a great move.

It's such an incredible conversation to have because, again, like, it's so early on that it just seems like, and we've seen this on a bunch of different shows, people just want to have a sticking point. Like, you know what? No, I'm going to make sure this last all season. And instead, we've got a group of people that are like, yeah, all right, I understand where you're coming from. We can move on.

We don't really need to dwell on all of that, which I love. And we can just move on to the next topic, which is incredible. I wonder how much of that has to do with high society in London, you know, because it's a lot of probably chatter. I think a lot of them have probably been through a lot, but a lot in the public eye and a lot of scrutiny, which makes the show so good, too, because they're not really worried about tarnishing, quote unquote, tarnishing their image because they've already been through so much. And the UK media is weirdly more ravenous than our media. So I'm sure that all of them individually have gone through a lot, if not gone through a lot in their actual lives. So this is just child's play. Like,

oh, whatever. We're going to have it out on national TV in America. And yeah, it's going to get played here, but not many people are going to watch it. Who cares? Let's do whatever the hell we want.

Well, it's working incredibly well. And this sets up, I think we got the mid-season trailer. They might be only doing like a 10-episode run for the first season, which it makes sense. I hope we get 20 next season. Careful for what you wish for.

But if it continues like this, then they should make this show all year round and just have cameras on all the time. all the time. But yeah, I agree with that. It is a very nice reprieve from the summer house shit, uh,

because that's been all consuming shooter caught out of work today. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. But tired. Because of all of the hoopla, we didn't even put questions up. Our apologies.

We like, this is our second episode of the day. We did summer house earlier. We've been making reels and, and commenting on stuff. So it's been a hell of a day. But, uh, Hell of a show, too.

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