Bros & Shows - DWTS: Prince Night! (DWTS Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

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Okay, I like that one. It's a little more creative than the usual one. What was that, Miraball Goots before? Miraball Goots, uh, Magooter Ball. Mirror Goots. Oh, that's what I try to do. I try to do on mirror Goots. Yeah, that's all right.

Yeah, you got to line one up perfectly for the finale. You got to have a good one. No, I will actually. Uh, everybody out there. you're listening, start spamming us Shooter Magooter names so I can come up You outsourcing already? I'm outsourcing just in case.

I've been on the struggle bus with Maguder names of late. I will be honest. Not my best work. I blame O.C. I love the theme for this night. I like Prince Night rocks. Prince Night absolutely shreds. There's so many good songs to choose from.

And I feel like it's one of those weird nights where you're not going to get the shit end of the stick where you're going to get like a random person getting the best print song or, you know, I don't know, getting a slower one that doesn't really add up to whatever you're trying to do and you're trying to do a jive or a two-step do it and you just can't quite do it because it's the wrong song. He's got so many things in his discography that you're set no matter what you want to do. No, I agree. I think though the translation of song to dance in that first round for some of them was seemingly a little more difficult.

I don't know if it was the song tempo or what, but there was a theme with the first dance and then I started to think deeper into strategy. It's like, well, maybe they put more effort into the second dance knowing that that one's going to be like a bigger hitter. I don't know. But the first dances overall, I was slightly underwhelmed. I thought that we could have done better as a group.

Yeah, I feel like even the, there was one perfect score. there was one near perfect score. Even those two dances, they didn't really stand out to me as perfect scores. And I feel like it's one of those like, we've got a rubric that we have to hit. Somebody's got to have a perfect score. It's the semifinals. So this one's the best one. Robert got the perfect because he's in his wheelhouse again.

So you got to like enjoy that part of it. I thought his dance was exceptional. I think he could have gone for 29 instead of a 30. They're all really good now. It's weird because Elaine's still fighting through injury. She's definitely on a different level than the rest of them. She's a little bit below. I think she's her and Jordan are kind of.

Jordan's, no, I would say if anybody, Dylan, Jordan is going to be like top two, dude. She is just that her second dance was her best dance of the season, which is I just don't think Jordan's getting the fan votes, to be honest. I think now we're playing a numbers game where, I think it's really still down to two people that could possibly win. And they've been dancing really well between Alex and Robert. But I feel like the rest of them just don't have the numbers to really stand up against them. I think that Dylan could have had a shot, but he had to do more than he did this. He wasn't bad this week by any means, but it's kind of what we've gotten used to.

You know, big strides and a couple awkward arm movements and then the hips. He got control of the hips, which I can appreciate. But I think Jordan's got a good chance just because I think she probably has a better fan vote than you'd think because there's a lot of crazy Olympics people out there, you know? So I think that she probably- You can't compete with Zach Ephron tweeting out and putting things on this. Or Alex Earle tweeting out to her 100 million followers or whatever she has. So that's where it gets a little interesting when you have influencers in this because it's a popular vote. And we saw, I won't spoil it, but we saw.

just how the popular vote can affect, you know, even if you're one of the best ones out there. I saw a lot of people really upset, though, because there is, and I think that's why it makes this so fascinating, especially for the voting, there are people that are tried and true just voting for the best dancer. They don't care about anything. They're not listening to the outside noise. They're not watching the other shows or the other content that they're in. They're just watching the dance. And they're like, well, that's not what it's about. best. I know, I know, but there are a lot of people that just vote strictly on who's the best answer and the other people don't deserve it. But they're also pretty much the same people

that didn't want Andy to keep going and were getting mad that he was still there, which, you know, goes against my core instinct, which is let's make it funny. No, I agree. And I think that what you see with the backlash of people like voting for the best answers, we didn't set the system up. The system was set up as a popularity contest. So unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on who you are you have to take into account likable factors that's part of the show if it wasn't then it would be based on the judge's score so it's not it's based on both and apparently popular vote weighs pretty heavy which i was actually surprised so we're just playing the game but why don't we jump in you're going to jump in breaking them down do you want to do it like

we'll talk about both of their songs or you want to go through rounds yeah let's just go all the way through let's go both their songs unless you want to love it together yeah yeah and we start out with elaine uh who is one of my faves i think that she's just an absolute delight and she's getting to live out this childhood dream of being a dancer so it's all just really sweet and she has come a long way i thought her first dance was good like that's what i think that's what my issue was with a lot of first dances they were all very technically sound yeah but there wasn't a lot of wow factor other than rock but they technically speaking like she hit her lines and her posture was good and all those

different things and you've seen how she has really progressed to this competition which I appreciate and they did the fox trot to I want to be your lover fantastic song and she got three nines 27 across the board I think that was a fair score I think it was a fair score too and again she's very technically sound she doesn't have it in her to hit that wow factor we haven't really seen that. I think since Wicked night, she was really good. Wicked. She had that wow factor. Yeah, Wicked. She definitely had that well factor. But a lot of that obviously goes with the song choice. It goes with the dance choice. And we're getting really down to it. We're in the nitty gritty right now. You got to just pull out all the stops looking at Dylan

Efron inviting his brother to come hang out. So look, again, very technically sounds. You can listen to it from the judges. When they're going through her dance, they're pointing out all of the things that she does really well, she just can't quite break that ceiling. And I think you need maybe a little bit more mobility in that hamstring and those ribs and all the other injuries that you got going on. She's piling up a fucking sheet, man.

She's playing injured. And you know what? You got to take that into account. She's playing injured and she's doing well. So that's off to her. And I think going back to what I was saying about the rubric, I don't think that she has that well factor. And yet her second dance,

I thought it was better than the first dance, but a perfect score, I don't know. I think so. You think so? I think so because. You love a Pasadoblobe though. I do, actually, yes. I think that it's just a, it's a dance because it's so, what's the word, intentional, that I feel like I have a good grasp on like, oh, they're doing it the right way.

So I like to watch that because I know what to look for because for whatever reason, And maybe Derek is the one. Yeah, he always harps on that one the most. Like, you got to stay. He does. Yeah. So that's the only reason I really like is because I feel like I can actually not judge it, but understand what's happening.

But I thought she was exceptional. And I thought this was, this was her leaning into it again, which I think that she's her best. And I think they're all their best when they lean in. But she has the, she did it with Wicked. And then at the dance that she did with, what's her nuts from Abbott Elementary. Yeah.

Like when she really buys into the process, I think she takes it up to the level that she needs to be able to compete in the finale. Can she win it? I don't know. But you could see like the facial expressions and she was stomping the floor or she was stomping the yard, bro. And I thought it was. I was cool with a 30. I was cool with 310s.

Also understanding that's a 30 for a lane, not a 30 for Alex or a 30 for robber. Correct. Yeah. It's going to look differently no matter what you. look at from person to person. Each person can do something different to get a 30. I think maybe that's what I'm doing. Maybe I'm looking for that wow factor.

And yet what we get from Elaine is typically something that's going to put us in touch with our emotions. It's going to make us feel something when she's dancing. And that's what's going to get her a 30 versus, all right, Robert looks like he's having fun out there. He's hitting all of his strides, but he's also doing something else. There's a little something extra in there. So I think that maybe, I will say, I do think that Elaine's was a little bit higher on

the totem pole as far as deserving 30s went. But again, it's still, it didn't have it for me. But it's okay. I'll live. I'm not going to, you know, I don't live and die with this. They also got the dance to when doves cry, which is, you know, an all-timer. So many of these songs are. It's hard to say which one's the best.

But yeah, that was great song, great dance, great execution. Bravo. 30 well-deserved, in my opinion, for a total of 57 on the night, 57 out of 60, pretty solid evening. And that takes us to Alex Earle and Val. And they're doing the Argentine tango to another banger, little red corvette. And I was underwhelmed with this one. Yeah, me too. This was just kind of, you know, again, technically sound sure. She had a couple of, I think there was a timing issue at one point or she got stuck or something like that. They pointed out. I didn't agree with the 10. I thought this was nines across the board. But

still amazing and I think that- Who gave her a 10, Derek? Derek gave her a 10. And I think at this point, honestly, from what I'm gathering, I think he is just going contrarian to Carrie Ann. Yeah, he is. And usually what happens is Bruno kind of follows him in suit.

This was a weird one where Bruno didn't follow him in suit. I love Little Red Corvette. I thought this was a very interesting song choice for her. Yeah. I figured this would have been better for, and Elaine, because Elaine can kind of do things a little bit better. She's more intentional with her movements. She's a little bit slower, a little bit more passionate, whereas Alex, I want like a little

bit more, I don't want to say athleticism, but a little more pizzazz out there. And I feel like a little red corvette and Argentine tango doesn't really line up super well for what you would normally expect from her. We have come a long way, buddy. We really have. But that's what I would expect Alex to just kind of like feed into the wheelhouse. Just go back to the well, go ahead and show. us what you've been showing us for the last six, seven,

eight weeks at this point, you can do these things. I thought this was a little bit different. And for the semifinals, you would imagine they would just be going with the bread and butter. But now, we're trying to do things. Yeah. I think this was the first time. I had that written down somewhere. I think this was the first time that she had done in Argentine Tango

all year. So again, kind of weird breaking that out. They picked the dance for them. So she doesn't get to pick the dance, which I... Oh, really? I thought they got to pick this. I thought they picked the song for them, but not the dance. I think they picked the dance as well. So I won't blame. I just, it felt safe. It felt like this is good, but you're capable of so much more, you know, and this is the semis. And that was kind of resonated by the

judges. So yeah, I mean, that means we're right. Uh, but they get a 28. So I mean, still a great score and a deserving score. I think he could have gotten a 27, but, you know, we'll go recency bias of her being in the top two every week. So the 10, that's Fine. Dance number two is the Viennese waltz to Purple Ring. God, this one was electric. Yeah, this one rocked. This is what we've been expecting. This is what we've been seeing for weeks. This is very consistent with what we've come to know. Alex is just a great dancer. And this was a perfect song, perfect dance for her. And she crushed it. There's nothing really more to say. I think she hit every single foot step, whatever you want to say. She just looked great out there.

like, and this is what we've come to realize with the very good dancers. It looks like those in between. It looks like the troop coming out. It looks like, oh, look at these professional dancers out here. We've seen it with Whitney for fucking the entire time, honestly. She's been one of those where it's like, ah, ho-hum, all right. Yeah, let me get back to whoever's dancing.

Oh, shit. We've got a celebrity dancing. Let's pay attention. This, I was locked in on this one. This was such a good dancer. It was great. The visual effects in the background that had like that galaxy raining purple red. Yeah. It was sick. The whole, it was a vibe. I caught the vibe. It was great. Well done. Well deserving 30, a total of 58 on the evening. Great

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This again was just under, like, technically speaking, flawless. I think she did as well as she could have. This was another one that I was like. Underwhelming. It's just like. It just feels weird. Yeah. It's just safe.

Once again, we're going with the safe route. I didn't understand it. I, it's interesting because because of these first stances being kind of like ho-hum, I was instinctively, like, just looking at specific extent. Like, well, okay, well, she is the timing right. Is her posture right? Is her arms going out as far? Is she reaching for the ceiling, as they say?

Like, stuff like that. And yeah, she hit all those things. But I just, it's the semifinals. Yeah. I want to see some crazy shit. This kind of struck me as, and we've been talking about this for weeks now, when we've just been kind of mapping our road to the finals. For Whitney, we just kind of said stay consistent,

keep doing what you're doing. Don't try anything new. Don't try to slow down or do anything weird. And I feel like she did that pretty much the whole night. Like both of her dances were like that where I'm like, okay, you're still doing the same shit. But you are the best dancer out there. I think you are far and away, honestly, in my eyes,

you are the best dancer on the show. And you can do so many more. more things. And I feel like it got to a point where she wasn't taking any risks. She was just okay with her scores. She was getting a lot of perfect scores. So why not? You know, just kind of keep trudging forward in a way. But I wanted to see more. Like, this is your time to break it out. Again, we're using sports analogies. You're in the semifinals. No holding back right now. You can't lose now. Just go ahead out there and just show us what you can do. And I feel like she just took the safe route. And it was kind of boring to watch. And I didn't really care for it.

And again, that's my critique of everybody's first. dance we're not just picking on Whitney again but I did realize something what and it's not her fault and we've talked about it before but because she's so good her dances are more boring because I'm not seeing improvement this is not a fault of Whitney's guys okay this is a me problem this is a viewer problem because week to week yeah because like it's cool to watch the other dancers, they're like, wow, look how good they've gotten since week one. Look at Alex Earle. I mean, she was great week one, but she is exceptional now, right?

Jordan has done leaps and bounds, no pun intended, and she's doing extremely well. Dylan, fun to watch. Whitney's been the same product the whole season. Perfection, by the way. It's not like a ding. It's just like, you've been so very good week in and week out that I know that's what it is. I've come to expect X out of Whitney. And that's what I get every week.

You get X. But you're never, ever going to see a Y because you know what you're getting. And I feel like we're also really trying to look at this show in a bottle and not allow the outside factors to creep him. Neither of us like Whitney on Slamwa. But here we are just trying to critique her dances. I think it would have gone such a long way if she,

figured out a way to make something upbeat and do something flashy it's very technically sound and she's been very technically sound for 10 weeks now whatever fucking week we're on and she's the best answer out there but that tells me that there's more there that tells me that you can take a risk and do something flashy and she just never does it and I think it finally caught up to her on this uh especially on this song and that's the other thing too and that's like just to played devil's advocate, not throw to the bus too much. She might be taking those risks

and is simply that good that we're not even noticing. Like, it's just, so her downfall was, well, two things. Being so very good at this and also being a miserable person on her actual show.

Somebody came at us in the comments was like talking about like Whitney and her husband and us hating on them. It's like, trying to defend a husband or something it's like you got caught cheating on an app what yeah like what you want me to say i don't have to defend him that's the you guys can do your digging but i don't i don't like any of the girls on secret lives so i don't care yeah i'm trying to pop up on any of like taylor oh no i like um she's new by the way

like side note the premiere was really good so if you want to do a couple of bulk episodes or something. Are they actually doing like week by week? I think they're out already. It would be like if we want to do like three and one and just like an episode out. But anyway, Miranda, Miranda, Miranda. Yeah. I don't mind her. She's fine. Yeah. They always find a way to just piss me off at some point. That shows also very interesting for me. But I do think that like we've gotten to a point where we're just watching her and we give her her kudos every single week that she is the best answer i just i don't see it maybe it's the improvement factor like you said but i i just think that it's it's not showy enough it's like okay if you want to be like technically sound then go join the troop go do but i guess that's my

point it's just with whitney in particular i do think that this is like a means to an end for her and i think somebody said that she got chicago i think she's actually going to be did she get Chicago. I think he got Chicago. There was speculation as well that this was a planned departure from the show. There's people talking about that because she landed a role somewhere else. And if you go back to her actual show, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, if you're not familiar, she is caught on Mike saying that she wants to be back in mom talk just so she can get on dancing with the stars.

So like, that's who Whitney is. okay and that's like not even that bad she's done a lot of stupid things if you're a bravo fan that's sheena she she she is she's the shena she of slumwa that's a really good point actually yeah so uh her second dance the vannes waltz to slow love gets a 29 910 10 10 uh and karyan who lauded over it dinged her for a for a misstep which i appreciate it actually i was like okay uh i could have hariann's been a different judge over the last Yeah, she's, she's under a lot of scrutiny. I think she's trying to respond.

Yeah, she's trying to respond in kind, which I actually appreciate that she's not backing down. I gained some respect for that she leaned into it. So, but with Whitney, like, yeah, 30, sure, like, it was a beautiful dance. It really was. She was elegant. She was floating across the floor. It was magical. It's just, it doesn't, it falls flat.

They're just, it's missing something. And it could simply be, you are so good at this. that it becomes less entertaining. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much where I am on at the same boat. Yeah, all right. Well, let's get on to Dylan. Oh, and that gives them a 58 for the evening, 50 out of 60, so great night for her.

Surprising, it's not a 60 out of 60, though, given her previous performances. So let's get to Dylan and Daniela. First song, Tango, to I Would Die for you. Not his best? No. I was underwhelmed again. Clunky.

clunky and i think what they're trying to do his miss his misdances are very clunky and i feel for dylan in particular maybe it's just because he's so fucking tall and just got those long ass limbs it's so obvious when it's slow it's so obvious when he comes out of a turn and he hit the wrong step it's so obvious his arms are always kind of awkward it is yeah i i think that is it really comes down the limbs for him but like you can watch danella and you can tell when she turns and he's not where he's supposed to be. It's just so obvious when he has a missed dance where I feel like the other contestants hide it a little bit better, at least in the audience.

Obviously the judges are going to catch on to it. But the audience doesn't see it as much. When I watch Dylan miss something, I'm like, oh, fuck, he just fucked that up. It seems that it's more obvious. And this is my first year watching this. So the fact that he's still here is a testament to a wacky season for the most part. But also, it gets us to get Zach in the audience. And Zach finally shows up.

And Zach was funny, too, because I think of it. was after his second dance, because what did he get in the second dance? 29? Yeah, you got a 29 second dance, I think. 28, 28, 208. Zach turned and I even asked, like, is that a good score? Should I be clapping? It's like, okay, yeah, you have no idea what the fuck's going on. But this was what I was talking about last week.

I was talking about the week before. Those last ditch efforts to just get you through to the next round, this was a good burn. Zach shows up. Zach tweets it out. Zach puts it on Instagram. That's going to get you the fan vote. So you secure that. you just have to have some pretty good dances.

I think 9-99 was a little generous, but I don't think they went. Nobody got any eights this time. So that was a nod to like, all right, you're in the semis. We're not going to give you a low score, but that wasn't good. Yeah, I wasn't wowed by it.

And I think the other thing that they're doing as a couple, they've heard the positive feedback. Your strides are great. Oh, the leading man, sexy, this, that, the other. and I appreciate leaning into that shit. It's like, okay, they like this, do more of that. Right. It's like the dice move from knocked up.

It's like you're doing the dice thing too much. Like it's like we're trying to emphasize strides, which he's got a beautiful stride, sure. But now I see it every time. Every single time. That's his thing. So he's trying to emphasize that. And I will give him credit because the second dance was the cha, cha, cha, cha to kiss. and he was able to use the hips finally and kept them under control.

Then you could tell he had fun with that one. But again, there's just those moments where he's like, I haven't seen anything like it on this show because he's like locked in. And you're like, wow, this is great. And then it's like, it's like a record scratch. Then he's back on. He's like, he's one of those contestants that usually you want them to have fun, but obviously keep in mind you want to make sure you hit all your steps.

For him, it's like don't have fun. like you need to lock in the whole time because this second you have done your arm pops out in a weird way your leg pops out in a weird way and you fuck up the whole dance and it's funny too because we even commented on that last time where him and daniela hit that fucking spin in the air and they both looked at each other and smiled and then stopped and went right no no no you clocked that as uh oh shit like we did it i clocked that as uh hey hey there oh yeah you wanted it to be a little sexual yeah i don't want it to i said i i that's what i felt that i i i I felt the tension in that moment, whereas you thought it was a, we did it. Shut up, fucking weirdo. But no, I think that he's the only one that, like, yes, you want Robert to cut loose. You want Alex to cut loose. Whitney, we're telling you, please cut loose. Stop being so regimented.

And you might have a better score. And you might not be boring to watch. But Dylan, you need to lock the fuck it. You need to pay attention the whole goddamn time because the second that you start having fun, you suck. and you're not great at this. So lock back in and make sure you're hitting every step. And then you can smile and goof around afterwards. You're just a little too gangly,

a little too goofy. Which is fun, though. You know, it's kind of the charm of Gilafron. This is the semifinals, though. Come on. I agree. You got to lock in.

Go home and watch your brother's movies. He dances a lot. He's a good dancer. Maybe that's a shit. You guys hang out all the time. Just dance with him. Although, Danielle, is probably better than Zach.

Yeah. take that back. Yeah, but like dedication night, maybe. That would have been defun. But no, that dad was little sister was too cute. They were all sweet. Nobody went home that week. I love the Fons anyway. I love Zach Fron. He's fantastic. The fact that he is a child star that didn't fall off the face of the earth and do some crazy shit. Impressive. Very impressive. Uh, but he gets a 55 total 27, 28. He gets 1.10. Let's keep trucking. to Jordan and Ezra and the first dance

was the jive to my favorite prince song Raspberry Beret and I thought it was awesome it wasn't the second dance but I thought this was really good I thought her first dance was better

than multiple first dances that got higher scores oh so you think I see I had her slotted in the same spot she was a tick above Dylan's first dance but I had her slotted in the same spot is like Elaine and Alex.

I had her step up from Elaine. I didn't see a whole lot different. I'm sorry. Yeah, I had her step up on Elaine. But they got the same score. Her and Elaine have the same score. So it's not that egregious. But I did have her somewhere around where Alex was, but a little bit below.

It wasn't the best. And maybe I'm just, that could just be recency buys because her second dance was awesome. And it's like, okay, let me put these side by side. That one's so much better. But I think that's the matter of here's the ceiling. It's 30 points. if there was no ceiling, I think that second dance would have been so much fucking higher. Like she showed everything that she had learned and then incorporated everything that

she already knew into one dance. And it worked out perfectly. We've seen her do it before. It's been a couple of weeks, but we've seen her lock in and really just hit everything, but also show how much more athletic she is than everybody else up there. And it's impressive to watch. And that's what we got from the second dance. The first one, it wasn't underwhelming.

It was just, okay. It was in keeping with the rest of the first dances. Correct. Yeah. Yeah, and I think with that second one, which was the Argentine tango, you got the look, she had it all. That was everything you need to see in a semi-finali or a finale performance even, and I'm glad that she's getting kudos from the judges about continuing to take those chances. She's the only one that has really taken consistent risks on this show, and she's gotten dinged for points because of it, and not because the tricks weren't amazing, just because these judges have a stick. up their ass about deviating from the steps in the dance.

Yeah. I think that her persistence with it and most importantly, the execution, because the difference in this one, when she did her extracurriculars, it still really flowed with the dance. It wasn't like a total step out where it's like, whoa, you just did a front flip and now we're back to dancing. It all seems like. No, it stays in flow.

It's so, that's what I'm talking about. Like, that's the impressive factor for me with Jordan is when she's able to do that stuff when she's able to incorporate her gymnastics into that or just her raw athleticism and she's able to stay on step she's able to stay in the dance i think that's more impressive than anything else that anyone else does on the show i agree and like the way they're kicking their feet like in tune and in sync and everything that shit was cool the outfits were great song choice great setting and scene was great best dance of the season by far and she's had some amazing ones it's just that was like if you buy

Followed up Jordan Giles and said, who are you as a dancer? Bang, Argentine tango you got to look. Yeah. Tens across the board, 30 total of 57 on the evening. So everyone's kind of in the same ballpark. And it seems like everyone hinged on that first dance being kind of mad. Hi, I'm Mike Carruthers, host of the podcast, Something You Should Know. And in every episode, I talk with world-class experts about fascinating ideas.

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And the first one is the jive to Baby I'm a Star. This is where Robert shines. Yep. High energy, high pace, lots of steps, lots of facial expressions. facial expressions if you allow him to just get out there and take the restrictions on go get it tiger that's the opposite of dylan he's the opposite of dylan you want him to go out and have fun and mix it up and try because i feel like it's i don't know if it's just a matter of he's gotten to the point where he's done enough practice and he understands the dance and he knows where he has

to be at all times so we can allow him to go have fun and that makes it better i have no idea because I've only been watching the show for a year. So who am I to say? But it is so enjoyable to watch when he cuts loose because it's on a different level than everybody else. If he's cutting loose and having fun, I'm not even questioning where he's supposed to be because it all looks great.

When Dylan is cutting loose and having fun, there are certain times where it's like that shouldn't be part of dance or you're in a wrong spot or maybe try to get back on tango with your partner at that point. But with Robert, it just looks flawless. It looks like he's having a great time. He looks like a leading man. So all those things that they say about Dylan being a leading man, they're wrong.

It's Robert. Robert is the leading man. I think he had the best night about more of a better night than everybody else. I agree. I think he had the best night by far in a way than anybody else did. And maybe he just had, you know, the advantage of being well set. Like he had a better setup than everybody else. I don't know exactly.

But watching both of his dances, I think it was apparent to me. He is now, I would say he's in the lead right now. Well, this is what we talked about, right? The chance to, if there's some underwhelming dances, which there were, somebody like a Robert needed that to be able to leap from the back. There you go. Now he's up there in contention with Alex Earle. He's up there in contention with Jordan Childs,

with the people that are really good at dancing. Like he has entered into that, that tier heading into the finals, which is great. And Dev said something earlier about, like, she wishes that, And I didn't notice it until she said. I was like, oh, I think you nailed it. The way that Robert leans into the cringe factor, not that it's cringy, but he is 100% all in, facial expressions, body movements, body language, like he is selling out for this where I think that Dylan still has that hint of, oh, that's kind of embarrassing. Like not that he won't do it, but I think it's like a little, like a little voice in his head that's kind of like, oh, whereas I don't think Robert has that voice. Robert's like, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to show you everything, everything you want to see. Robert Irwin's got it. And it worked. He should have gotten a 60. Honestly, Derek, Derek stiffed him a point. I think that this was a deserving 60. Also in comparison to the other dances that we saw, Robert was consistently great. He was the only one that had two great dances. And yes, he had the highest score of the evening, so it's not like egregious. Yeah, wasn't the end of the world because he did that? Because he was still.

what a point above the next he's a point above yeah Alex and Whitney so he was stand alone yeah he would still stand alone and I think that was enough and that's again going back to what I was saying in the first part I do think that they had a map out like all right best dances of the night we're gonna give a couple people 30s make sure everybody gets a 30 for every round for the most part a couple people won't get 30s but we got to make sure that at least the best dancer of the night gets a better score than everybody else all right where are we sitting at with everybody and Robert and Robert 59 out of 60 I agree with you I think

it should have easily been an easy 60 across the board but who's going to complain not me no and i also appreciate that you know derrick dinged him on one small thing and dinged the point carrie ended the same with whitney so that i can get behind like if you simply because we've obviously had some judging blunders mishaps yeah sure flavor of flave well that was just funny uh but i feel like if you just say great dance love loved it off time and got a knock you a point but love the dance it probably would land a lot better that's yeah we talked about that before that i want them to put both like your commentary and score together save us some fucking time this show you get commentary from one and then you get

then you get the nice from the other like i want them to explain because we get to a point and i'm going to use andy as an example and it's a little unfair but we get to a point where we know what his score is going to be, but you're not dinging him at all. You're not explaining why he's got a seven. We all know it. You don't have to tell us necessarily, but you're giving him sevens across the board and then you're sitting in your commentary just praising him. It's like, okay, all right. What's the point here? Now we're getting into the nitty gritty. We're getting to the semifinals where you guys are digging them a point here and there, and you'll talk about it a little bit, but I want you to say, and because of that, I gave you a nine. And because of that,

I gave you a 10. That's what I want to hear. I agree with you. I think that's a good way to look at it. I'm reading right here, I guess, and that makes a lot of sense. So dance one was an unlearned style for the week. Dance two was a repeat that they've done. So that's why Dance 2 hit so much harder because they know the actual, maybe not the steps to that specific choreography,

but they know the dance itself, where Dance 1 was their first time doing that. so that makes a lot of sense then you know what at that point i would actually like to just praise i guess uh whitney and robert i guess because they were able to get really good scores and have really good dances yeah i don't know doesn't really change a whole lot for me no and we get to the vote that fan vote carries a shitload of weight because the by far the best dancer on this show Whitney Leavitt got whacked Bye Yeah

I didn't see it coming to be honest I figured this was You called this three weeks ago You said she's not going to make it to the end She's not going to get the vote Yeah but things have gotten weird I didn't expect Elaine to still be Kind of lingering around

I didn't expect Dylan to be lingering around still to be honest I had them both I think we should go back and listen to our prediction I said Elaine was going to make it But we also didn't know the number. Yeah. We know now it's four.

Yeah. But we did have winners also in that episode. So we should go back and listen to that. But that being said, I think it's five in the final. Yeah, we just went through six. That doesn't make much sense to me. I mean, look, lesser of two evils, though, we could do a two hour episode. They'll probably make it three hours, to be honest.

We could do a three hour episode with three dancers. No, no, I know. be borderline unwatchable. Or we can go ahead and do five and we'll split it up a little bit and they'll have two dances. I have no idea if they have two dances. It shows how much we pay attention to this. But if they have two dances and it's a two hour show and it's five people, that's not

nearly as bad. No. This episode was actually a good example because I didn't have like, oh my God, it moved pretty quickly because you get just dance, dance, dance, dance. That's why I think they're going to do three hours. They might do two dances each and do it. three hours and then they'll do the whole background story of like how did we get here we know probably we just watch we've been watching yeah even though we skipped through those cutscenes

a lot we still watch most of it yeah but yeah gearing up for the finals next week so let's get a prop bed in who's your winner um i'm going robert you're going robert all right don't robert just to play the game i'll take alex i think that's the best matchup that we can hope for Alex and Robert, and then my alternate universe would be Jordan and Alex. I mean, if we were just doing a snake draft there, you probably could have gotten Jordan on the comeback again. Yeah, probably. But that's okay. Anyway, no, I just want to pick one winner.

One winner. Rule them all. But tune in next week, or I guess shit, tomorrow. So today, I don't know, whatever. It's good in whatever you want. Yeah. We're not going to tell you that. Yeah.

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