Bros & Shows - DWTS: ROCK N ROLL HALL OF FAME NIGHT (Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

What's up Bros? We are headed to the quarter finals and the competition is heating up. The fan vote is also causing a lot of discourse online. Is it fair that Andy is still around? Personally, we feel... like that's what this show is truly about. But what do we know? (Not a lot) As we get down to the wire, who will be left standing with the mirror ball trophy? Can Whitney maintain her dominance? Or are Jordan and Alex closing the gap? Maybe Robert will make a late push, who knows? All we know is this show is awesome. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:47 We've got a heavy competition. Everyone's getting better. And the fan votes are still coming in for some people. Not only that, I think we're having a really good discourse about what this show is actually all. about what is it about good dancing or is it about who we enjoy the most oh right right right right yeah vote for your favorite shows bros and shows i gotta have me my bros and shows bros and shows i gotta have me my bros and shows good evening everybody
Starting point is 00:01:21 welcome back to another episode of pros and shows i'm your co-host steel russell joined as always by the one and only. Shooter Huff. What's up, dude? My sibling? Older brother? Second cousin twice removed. Oh, it's not as cool. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Definitely not as fun. I've got a PSA out there for everybody. You're going to have to pry my phone out of my cold dead hands. Andy votes. I want me to stop voting for Andy every fucking Tuesday, baby. He sent a screenshot to both my wife and I of him just texting Andy to the vote hotline 10 times in a row. Yep. Filled that quota real quick.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Sure did. Ady boy. Well, someone's keeping him around. Look, a lot of people are keeping him around. If I voted, I would keep him around. I think this is, this is actually, I'm happy that this is the first dance of the star season that we're doing because it's very polarizing.
Starting point is 00:02:13 The amount of people that are still, and we did this in the first couple episodes, you're like, all right, this is kind of cute, this is fine. It did exactly what we said it was going to do. If he stays around long enough, we're not going to be mad about it anymore. it's going to be so funny that everybody's going to get pissed off. The people who watch Dancing at the Stars are now going on saying,
Starting point is 00:02:32 what are you guys doing? Why are we still voting for Andy? He didn't deserve to be here. We got to have this person in. I can't believe this person went home. This is ridiculous. It's ruining the competition. Then you get all the people commenting.
Starting point is 00:02:44 If you don't want me to vote for Andy, then you shouldn't say vote for your favorite because I'm enjoying watching Andy and now things are flipping because he's making progress. So it's very interesting. I actually really enjoy this. This is what Dancing with the Stars, according to some people, what it should be in the first couple of seasons.
Starting point is 00:03:00 It's people that don't fucking dance that are now dancing. And then if they're making progress and having a good time, you vote them through. When did this turn into, let's pluck Whitney out of ballerina school and just see what she does? I don't know. I don't know when it shifted over to everyone's just really good at dancing and we're going to see who the best dancer is in all of Hollywood or whatever. Yeah. But I was on that boat for a while where it's like, oh, it's not fair to the other dancers. Hey.
Starting point is 00:03:25 What the fuck do I care? That's the competition. Is there a cash prize at the end of this? I don't know. You get the mirror ball trophy. Sure. I don't know if there's a cash prize. I would imagine there probably is.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I imagine most of it goes to charity at this point. Something like that. I don't really know. The thing is, like, you're obviously, you're allowed to have multiple favorites. Most of the favorites, I would say, are going to make it through anyway. Because if they're at this point in the competition, I think there's a couple of stragglers that are probably going to keep going out, but they're not getting the fan vote anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Andy is controlling a lot of the fan vote right now. Yep. So there's not a lot you can do about that unless you change the structure. Maybe if they want it to be more of a dance competition, like who's the best dancer, they'll change the voting next year. Like 70-30. Like this will be the final straw. We get Andy all the way through to the finals and they're like, whoa, we've got a problem on our hands. That would be really funny.
Starting point is 00:04:18 That would be fucking hilarious. They're in the quarterfinals next week. Oh, that's right. We are really getting down to it. I mean, look, is he the best one? there, no, he's last every week and for a reason. But watching the delight and joy on his face and going through the process and buying into this so wholeheartedly. He was crying because people were wishing him a happy birthday and throwing parties for him and they don't even know him.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I would have too. Yeah. Because you have one family around a cake in front of the TV and it's like, why is everyone voting for Andy? And it's like us at home. And they're like hitting the like the casus and celebrating his birthday. I love that. I think I just love it when people get mad online. I know. I know that's what you're getting out of this. For me, I love when, you know, he's always obviously been a very famous person, right? Like, he's done a lot of movies, TV shows. He was, what was it, Fallon?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Or he was on? What talk show? Was it Kimmel? And he was like the intro guy? J.K., it's Conan. So that's why that makes more sense because he doesn't do it anymore. So he's been around, but I feel like he's always been the funny guy, or he's always, been like the butt of the joke or he's always been a supporting cast member.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I feel like Andy Richter has finally become the cool guy. And I love that for him because he's taking it all in stride. He's enjoying himself. And I think that he likes, as he says, I'm being held up. Watching it week to week, I will say the only person that I watch the interim scenes. I still watch Roberts, but the interim scenes of how they did all week, all of the things that they're doing, TikTok, I'll go on to watch all the little clips that they're making. I watch everything Andy-centric because he's enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:06:00 He's a nice guy. He's just enjoyable. And if you're out there voting for Whitney, I don't know what you're doing because she's not a good person. She's boring. And her time is up. In my eyes, her time is up. There's nothing more.
Starting point is 00:06:12 She's getting great scores. I know that like the judge scores are going to get her through. But at some point, she's going to go up against somebody like Andy or somebody like Alex, honestly, who's doing both. who's getting better and doing both and then you're just going to go home. So let's just open our arms a little bit, guys. I agree.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I don't know if Whitney's going to be sent home. I don't know how many people, we've watched Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. So we have a different take on Whitney. Yeah, so do you think the people are just voting and they're blown away by her dance abilities? Yeah, I don't think they know the background. I don't think they know that she's kind of an asshole.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. So if you don't know that, you're going to vote for. I mean, she is a phenomenal. an old dancer. No one here is saying anything to the contrary. She can dance. It's weird too because we've gotten to the point in the season where I think she's been good the whole time. I think she's gotten a little bit more comfortable in like getting back to her roots and understanding. She's a little more confident. But she hasn't gotten better. She's just kind of honing her already existing skill. She's got two people that are getting a lot better right next to her. Flav a Flav. He already
Starting point is 00:07:19 came out and said that he tried to give it was both Jordan and Alex he tried to give her a 10 and like it didn't work Alex was the one that he put a 10 in but held up a nine or whatever vice no no it was locked in at a nine he wanted to change he learned a lot about the voting for the judges I didn't realize it was that serious can we like not fucking delete and yeah that was kind of fucking wild but Alex and Jordan are getting better every week and they are very good and they're just as if not very close to as good as Whitney is and they're getting the fan votes. Jordan Childs is enjoyable as shit to watch because she's so fucking athletic. And they did a lot more like gymnastics in this one, but it was good because it went with the theme. It went with what she was doing.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So it worked in really seamlessly versus the first week, second week, somewhere around there. She was doing a lot of flips and shit, and it's like, all right, I know what you're doing. Now it's working into the dance, and that's obviously, you know, kudos to her partner.
Starting point is 00:08:15 But Alex is doing so well and she's getting better every week. And she's got the fan vote. Well, she's a very delightful person. She really is. She just seems so down to earth and so nice, which you don't really get for those influencers. They're usually douchebags. No, with that many followers to still be that down to earth.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Like, I didn't, I knew who Alex Earle was, obviously, and I haven't heard anything good or bad. This has turned me into a fan. Yeah. I haven't watched any of her stuff, but. Steel's going to be watching. Get ready with me. Sure. To support the cause, why not?
Starting point is 00:08:43 She's a really nice person. Like, I think that it's even cooler to see that with some. somebody of her stature and fame. Yeah, I agree. Especially in the influencer game. There's so many dousy people out there. So the first to go is our boy Dylan. We got Dylan and Daniela.
Starting point is 00:08:58 They're dancing the jive to I'm still standing one of my favorite Elton John songs. It's a great song. My favorite, favorite Taran Egerton song. So good and sing. I hope. He doesn't sing that. What? Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Does he sing it in the biopic? I don't know. I don't think so. So when he did, I'm still standing on sing. I thought it was him, because it sounds very like him, and he can sing. He sang it. I was really into sing, because Poppy loved it, and we watched it a lot. So he went on a podcast or a radio show to promote the movie.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah. And they had him sing it, and it was great. And then they talked to him. He's like, yeah, I wanted to sing it, but, you know, they had somebody else, and so he used his voice instead. What the fuck? I know, right? It just ruined my day.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm so sorry. Yeah, the, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry We're sorry But yeah So he didn't actually sing it But yes
Starting point is 00:09:52 That's my favorite scene From that movie Yeah Is that the I'm still standing moment But they dance Goes okay This was his best
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah You know And I feel like we're seeing Dylan We saw glimpses Of it early on That he would have These like really good moments Then he kind of falter a little bit
Starting point is 00:10:11 It feels to me That we're getting to a point With him Where he's kind of plateauing Yeah Do you think that he's able to I think he already plateaued I think he plateaued last week.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I think this was two weeks ago, honestly. I think he's done a lot and he's gotten a lot better, but I think he's just hit his limits. Like, we're not seeing anything new. It's always the same feedback. Let me get the abs. It's always, yeah. And now he's just using gimmicks.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It's getting to that point where I think he's going to have to go home soon. Or we get the Hail Mary contemporary. Yeah. I'm still waiting for one of those to hit. Yeah. Oh, they did a contemporary for Andy. I have a lot to say about it. They might have to keep doing contemporaries for Andy.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Just let him go. free for him. But yeah, no, I fully agree with you. I think Dylan has hit his limit. I don't think there's any more that he can do, and he's just going to get along. If he's going to use gimmicks, he's going to use gimmicks. It's okay. It's just not going to work in the finals of the semis. And it's just you see moments
Starting point is 00:11:01 that I've noticed where, and I feel like I'm an expert now after watching this for as long as we have. But when he goes for a transition, you can catch him sometimes like forget his next move. It's so quick, but then he looks over and sees Daniela doing something.
Starting point is 00:11:17 He's like, oh, yeah, and then he hits his, like, pose or something. I agree. So we'll see how it goes out, but he lands an eight, a nine, and ten. Flava. And then when I saw that, I was like, oh, it's going to be great. He's going to give everybody. Everybody gets 10s. That was amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah, awesome. Perfect. That's what I need. And Bruno gives him a nine, so a total of 36, which is, as far as scores now, it's fine. It's not great. You want to be in that 38 range. But it was decent. So moving,
Starting point is 00:11:47 on from them. We get Alex Earle and Val Chimerikovsky, I believe is how you say it, doing the Pasta Doble, which is quickly becoming my favorite dance. It's very fun to watch. I like the Pasa Doblay a lot. They do live it on a prayer. Fun thing to say, too, Pasadoblet. I know, right? Just rolls off the tongue so
Starting point is 00:12:03 nicely. I like Pasa Dobli. I think this honestly, and I really enjoyed her Wicked Night dance, but I think, or no, I'm sorry, not the Wicked Night, the Disney Night when she did Maleficent. Pick a night. I honestly pick a night. She's gotten better and better, but like, she got to a point where
Starting point is 00:12:18 I didn't think that she could do any more and then every week she just does a little bit more. This was probably, in my eyes, her best dance. I thought this was perfect score. Obviously, Flava came out and said he meant to give her a 10. This was perfect score in my eyes. I agree.
Starting point is 00:12:30 It was phenomenal. It looked like you're watching two pros. She's gotten so confident, dare I say, fierce out there. Yeah. Like she has just gotten so good. Watching this and Val, his choreography is just so good. It's perfect for what she can do.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And, like, I don't know what her limits are. I don't know what more she can do. But, like, it just seems like she's really feeding into it. She's really doing a lot. The preparation, I watched a little bit of her preparation. I obviously skip through some of those things. But I watched her preparation. She's taking it very seriously, which is what you want at this stage.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Exactly. And we're loving the feedback that she's getting as well. And we go to the judges, 10, 10, a messed up 10 and a 10. Fake nine, yeah. The best part about that is watching them get their scores. You can tell that they're like, that's perfect. We got a 40. And he gets to Flav of Flav, and they're like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They're like, wait, what happened? Yeah, it was. And I was even more befuddled because I'm like, you're going to give Dylan a 10? Yeah, well, again, yeah, we can't really speak to his coherency. Yeah, he might be a little lit. Yeah, he might be. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Honestly, I thought he was stoned as shit. Might have been. He might have been. I don't know if he does those things. I don't really know. I thought up with the Flavavavavav life. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I did watch Flavor of Love. I loved Flavor of Love. Season 1 with New York. Oh, my God. It was fantastic, but his scoring was not fantastic. Which, again, if you're going to have these guest judges and then do like week to week, you're going to have some weird flavor-flave type of person come in after you had a professional dancer last week and then have a weird actor the week before, just be consistent.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Like, maybe have people that understand dance. Well, it's because of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I know, but like, whatever. I don't know. I'm mad about it. It was. He always is entertaining, though. Yeah, you can't deny that.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I mean, the fact that he's in the Rock and Rule Hall of Fame as a hype man. He's not a rapper. No? He doesn't sing. Yeah. He is simply a hype man. Not simply. He is the hype man.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah. But that's incredible. But I think with this dance, you can firmly say, Alex will be in the final. I think she'll be in the final. Not only that, I think she's the number one seed. I think she should be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Because the difference between her and Whitney is what you said earlier. Whitney has been fine-tuning her dance skills. Yes. Still very impressive, not disparaging what she's done because she is really entertaining to watch. Great dancer. Alex, we've seen be really good, but we've watched her transform into this phenomenal dancer. Correct. It hasn't been the same journey.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah, I agree. So let's keep trucking. Let's get to our boy Andy. Andy Richter and Emma Slater. They're doing a contemporary dance to God only knows by the Beach Boys. Interesting song choice. Interesting song choice, but this was all to commemorate the friendship, which is why I get the song.
Starting point is 00:15:23 God only knows where I'd be without you. Yeah. Very sweet. I didn't love this. The sentiment I did. Yeah, the sentiment. Yeah, the dance was very odd. It didn't seem like his best work.
Starting point is 00:15:35 No, no. But it's funny, too, when I say, like, he's progressing and, like, really buying into it and doing better. during the practice, it looked like he was so much better. Yeah. And then when they got to the actual thing, and I don't think it's nervous anymore, I think it was just weird. I think he did fine. Like, I'm not saying it to bad.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You did anti. I think what they did, and, you know, there's a big part of this game that's strategy, especially when you're taking into consideration that we're using fan votes, apparently more so than the judge's scores. Yeah. But I think that the strategy was that. We're going to pull at heartstrings. We're going to make this very sentimental, very deep.
Starting point is 00:16:11 you know, we're going to show this journey that we've been through together. It does work. And I don't think it was like a gimmick. I think this was genuine. But they definitely used the sympathy factor to their advantage, which I appreciate. I'm surprised it took this long for them to do it. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:27 It was a good news. Well, I guess they, you know, dedication night, but everybody did that. My favorite is just that every time, I'll save it for the end, so I'll spoil anything. But they go 7-7 Flava Flav 9 and a 7. So we got a 30 there. which is, that's a great score for Andy.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You throw a nine in there. He's never gotten above a seven, I don't know. Yeah, now. He hasn't gotten any eights now. No, just sevens, right? Yeah, because last week, Derek broke his six paddle. Right. And said, you're on to sevens.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, so. I don't know if Derek meant to do that. I think they just don't care anymore. They're just always going to vote the same. Flava, I don't believe, gave anything less than a nine. No, that was the lowest score he gave. Yeah. And a couple accidental nines, apparently.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah. But, yeah, Andy's an enigma. We don't know how far he's going to go because I don't know how far the fans are going to get him through. And I think it's every week he gets more votes from the fans. Yeah. Because people are catching on and it's just funny. Even for people that aren't watching it, they just want to piss people off. So they're just voting for Andy.
Starting point is 00:17:30 So he is getting more votes every week and it's somehow combating his low scores against his peers. So it's working for now. I don't know what the end of the road looks like. I don't think that he can get through to the finals. I think he'll probably fizzle out. I don't know. I do this every week, though. I think he'll probably fizzle out.
Starting point is 00:17:49 He might make it to the semis. I don't think he will. Next week's the quarters. I can see him getting through. And then the week after would be the semis. And he's going to be up against like Alex, Whitney, Jordan. How many people are in the semis for? Robert.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. So it'll be the five of them, I would imagine, for the semis. I have no idea how many people are actually in it at that point. But, yeah, that's where I would see him kind of hitting a wall. And, again, he'd be very happy with that. It depends how many we whack next week. Yeah, I think they're just doing one a week, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But as we're getting closer, because the numbers don't even out to the quarter, semi, and final situation. We're going to have to weed people out unless, like, three people go to the final. That's where it gets confusing. I don't know what the numbies are as we go down. Yeah, because it would be seven going to the quarters next week. Then I guess it would be six going to the semis. And then five in the final? I have no idea what they're going to do, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:21:00 films on streaming. We ruin them all every Tuesday, wherever you get. your podcast so come join us and until then we beg you please keep it spooky yeah we'll find out yeah i don't know but we'll keep on moving and we get to whitney levin and mark ballast dancing the pasadobly to no more tears by azi great dance great dance phenomenal dance like she was a course correction by kary ann though oh you think yeah because she's been getting shit on in the past for not giving she didn't give robert a 10 for a 9 She gave him an eight for something when he definitely deserved a nine.
Starting point is 00:21:37 She didn't give Alex a 10 last week, and people came after her. We do need a judge. I did watch a lot of clips of Len, and he was so comfortable with people hating him. You need someone who's comfortable with the hate. Simon Cowell. This is very easy to point out. She got a lot of hate over the last two weeks for different scores, for different people, and she came out this week.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And for whatever reason, she kept giving Whitney Tentz. And she wouldn't do that for Alex, and she wouldn't do it for Robert, when they deserved it. But in this week, I actually weirdly thought that this was a perfect dance. I don't think there were any missteps. No, there wasn't.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And she gave her a nine. Yeah. So it's like, okay. This is a course correction. You're just throwing this one out there. You gave Alex a 10, so you're okay now. It was a 10.
Starting point is 00:22:18 This was a 10, 10, 10 dance because... But it should have been the same as Alex. And I guess you could also actually say because Alex deserved all tens. She knew the flavor of flavor wasn't going to give Whitney a 10. Oh, so she... She's like, you know what? You're not getting a perfect score
Starting point is 00:22:33 if Alex didn't get a perfect score to technicality. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I don't know. It was funny. You see a moment later where she's, I forgot who she's criticizing. It might have been the group dance.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I don't know. Probably. There were a lot of critiques of the group dance. I'm like, whatever. Who cares? I can't even tell what the fuck's going on out there. People started booing. And she's like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Like, hold on. And she's like, you know what? I'm out of here. Ha, ha. I was like, that was semi-serious. It was semi-al-al- You need to be comfortable with it. And like, I think the Derek
Starting point is 00:23:02 is probably the hardest grader out of all three of them, the mainstays. But he's not mean about it. He's not mean about it. He's always coddling them a little bit, but then he'll give him a lower score. Bruno is just Bruno. He's not going to change anything. He's just who he is. But Carrie Ann, if you want to do this,
Starting point is 00:23:19 you can't just dip a toe in there. Pick a lane. Pick a lane. Either you're going to be the new Len or you're going to be Carrie. Yep. But, you know, the back and forth, I don't know, are you the mean judge or not? We need to have a establish it. We need to have a four panel judge. Establish it.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Establish it. We need to have a four-panel judge, or four-judge panel, Jesus. And we need one, and I mean, like, for the whole thing, not swapping celebrities in for that fourth person. And that fourth person, because Karyan's been there forever, I don't want Karihan to go. But we need somebody on that platform that is not afraid to be a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah. It makes a big difference. We'll agree. Because then you don't have the other judges. Like, you know they're thinking about that. Like, someone has to be the harsh critic here. But none of them won't. want to do that because they want to be liked by the audience.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Len would be giving Andy like twos and threes. And then he would be fed up by this point and be giving him a one. I've seen him give scores like that. Now we don't dip below a six really. Yeah, we just kind of like progress each week to, all right, we can't go any lower than that. We're at the six mark, but people are getting tens out there. Let's bump them up to sevens. We'll just all agree.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Sevens across the board except for Flav and Flavav. I don't know. They need to do something with that. Yeah, if I had to guess between. the score scandals that we've already had this season, the Andy Richter of it all with the fan voting, we might see some changes coming next year. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I wouldn't be surprised. I don't think there should be. This has been a great season. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And if it's broken, it's working, keep it broken. I don't know. But yeah, Whitney and Mark, phenomenal, as always. And of course, she's getting better.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And I think that I speak for both of us when we say, we're not shitting on her because she was great to begin with and we are watching her fine tune and she does deserve to be in the final she's a fantastic dancer we're jaded because of our experience watching her on her other show like I'm not worried
Starting point is 00:25:15 about it it's just again she's not like completely unpleasant to watch it's a very good dance it's enjoyable I do skip through her in between scenes because I just don't care about what's going on in her life but she will and I know this for a fact she'll get there if she gets to the final she'll be up against somebody that she's
Starting point is 00:25:31 can't beat because the scores will be comparable from the judges and the votes will come in and she won't get as much. But that's where it's interesting. She's not going to win. She's just going to get there. But I know she's the judge's favorite. Yeah. Like across the board. Yeah. So that's going to be frustrating for them. I think she... Alex or Jordan could pass her up at some point. I don't think so. You don't think so? No, I don't think so. They judge Jordan hard. They do, but I think they judge people hard. And this is again, like, who can handle it and who can't. Like, they don't bother even judging Andy that much. But when they get to somebody who they think can do better, they will judge them more.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Yeah. I think they expect more from Jordan just because of our athleticism. You're going to be able to, and you've pieced a lot of this together and you're figuring it out. Here's some more. Here's some more. And I think we're like right around the corner from them just going, perfect. There you go. My bad.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yes, you're right. I mean scoring. Oh, yeah, scoring. She gets scored very difficult. She does, yeah. And I get that she's an Olympic athlete. But like last week, for example, the rope dance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 it was great. Like, yeah, I was a prop, and I know that props are, tend to be shy away from, yeah. But at the same time, like, that was a great dance.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And you can't say that the dance part of that dance wasn't a great dance. Just because it has things and moments that you don't love in there, I thought that it got judged poorly. I thought there was a poor judging
Starting point is 00:26:50 on her last dance. And that's why I'm glad, I guess we're even talking about them yet. But anyway, back to Whitney and Mark. Good job, 9, 10, 10, 10. As you said, that might have been to keep it even.
Starting point is 00:27:01 with Alex, that was clearly a predetermined lower score for some reason. But let's get to Danielle and Pasha. They're doing Contemporary to Dream On by Aerosmith, which is, this is about her journey with cancer. I didn't know she had cancer. Neither did I. So she battled cancer last year, and this is about her journey with that. I like hearing the stories about what the dances are about.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Now I try to watch him through that lens. And you saw, like, he is the diagnosis. like coming after and she keeps pushing him away and she's fighting back and she wins in the end. This was my favorite dance from her. I think this was my favorite dance from her too. And it was a really good song choice. This was a very good song choice. She did a contemporary, right?
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah, it was contemporary. Yeah, I thought this was a really good song choice because it is something that's like a little upbeat and you can kind of rise up a little bit in those interims. And I thought she did a really good job. I think that she, her and Elaine are kind of in the same bucket for me. No. You don't think so? Elaine is much better than her. Elaine is much better, but it seems like they're both hampered by something.
Starting point is 00:28:04 They both be getting hurt. Yes. So it's like, what are we going to get from you guys this week? Are you guys kind of hurting? Are you guys okay? Everything all right over here? How's the hammy? So it's nice to see because honestly, like, you could have bailed out at any point in time.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You could have that hamstring injury the entire year. You could have bailed out and you are bawling through, and I love to see that. I thought it was really the song choice that carried, and I think there was a lot more passion and emotion in it, but it looked fine. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't, I didn't have any as a, as a plebeian, plebeian, yeah, all right, as a layperson over here. There you go. I didn't fucking see anything that I'm like, oh, I don't know about that. It just looks smooth.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And what she was reaching, like that was their big critique, is to use the whole room. I thought that she was taking their critiques into consideration and trying to do it. I thought it was a solid dance. Yeah. The scores come in, we get a nine from Carrie Ann, love that, eight, nine, eight. which I thought was a fair score. I agree. That was reasonable.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And, you know, a couple of nines in there because she deserved the nines. She is making progress. I think, unfortunately, for her, I will wait later. It's very frustrating to try to do this way. But, yeah, moving on to Elaine and Alan doing the Viennese waltz to what the world needs now is love. And I'm so glad that she made it through because I think that Elaine has been one of my favorites this season. Yeah, her Wicked Dance was awesome. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Wicked was like one of the coolest things I've ever seen. I guess that was technically prop work, but I thought that the dance leading up to her rising up was incredible. Well, the whole thing, it's like they said in that night. It's like it took you away. It looked like you were actually watching the play. It was like theatrical.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah, it was really cool. So I love her. I love her vibe. I think she just seems like such a nice fun person. She does, yeah. And, you know, she had the cracked rib or something last week. So it couldn't dance, made it through this week.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And they are, like I said, doing the Viennese waltz. and I thought she was fantastic and I think that she's another person that we've seen she was good always but she has definitely progressed into like a different level she's like when we talk about
Starting point is 00:30:08 Whitney just kind of fine tuning things here and there you can tell that Elaine knows how to dance and she's always known how to dance she's remembering certain things picking things up as she goes along again she's hampered by injury love to see that just fighting through it every week
Starting point is 00:30:21 but she's doing more than just fine tuning I think she is also progressing I think she's also learning a lot of in the interims. And I think that she's doing a great job. Like, she really is. She's a great dancer. She's a pleasure to watch.
Starting point is 00:30:33 She's a sleeper. Yeah. I think she could make it pretty close to the end. Yeah. If she has a, like, one of her best. She could be like, I could see her getting into like a heartbreak situation in the semis. Same.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Like, you might be able to get to the finals and it's like, fuck, you really fought. Yeah. I could see her getting the nod. If she goes out and dances her best dance and you have, you know, Whitney or Robert probably more likely because he's I think he's in the same league as Alex and Whitney but I think that he has just a notch below
Starting point is 00:31:05 yeah right like just ever so slightly below I think if he hits all on all cylinders for a dance he could do it but you see a little more missteps from him but I could see her leapfrogging one of them if they have a bad night and she has an exceptional night yeah I think it could potentially
Starting point is 00:31:22 but we need to the thing with Alex and Whitney is you genuinely need one of them to like fully misstep. I think based on what we've seen from the scores so far, going off of what you just said about Jordan, I think Jordan's the likely candidate for her to jump over. I think, like it could just be like a weird situation.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Maybe it's a bad song choice, bad dance choice for Jordan. She has a little bit of an off night, but it still looks great and she knows what she's doing, but she just didn't have it all, but Elaine had like a perfect dance. I could see her leapfrog back. I see that, actually.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I think it's a lot more of like, there's a more like of a surmountable lead for the Roberts, the Whitney's, and the Alexes of the world that are up there. That would be a huge leap. But I think there's Jordan. Jordan and Robert, I feel like, are kind of on the same level. But I think Jordan has more of an upside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Jordan has way more of an upside. But the way that they've been scoring her, who the fuck knows? Yeah, it's tough, man. It might just be something that they're like very, very critiquing on, like, whatever she's doing. It could be one of those nights. Like you said, Elaine could have a perfect dance. Why not? It could happen.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Could happen. I don't want Jordan. to go home. No, neither do I. I want to see Jordan go through. My final would be Jordan, Robert, Alex, and Elaine
Starting point is 00:32:34 if we're not going to do the Andy Whitney. Yeah. Yeah, that would be my final. I think that's fair. I like that final, too. Yeah, that's just who I'd like to see. That's not who it's going to be. But that takes us to Jordan,
Starting point is 00:32:46 who's doing a jazz routine to River Deep, Mountain High by Ike and Tina. And... she comes out in the wig. Love that. This was my favorite Jordan dance. I thought this was perfect. This was incredible.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I thought this deserved a perfect score. Like, I know that you don't like the acrobatics or whatever, but the energy was fucking through the roof. Yeah, let's knock her because she can fucking do flips and stuff. Yeah, she can jump off of somebody and jump into somebody else whilst doing a flip.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah, she can vault. Oh, God, yeah, we got to knock her down. Like, she can do that. The other people can't. So what? Whitney went to school for this shit. Like, why are we not knocking her? Like, you know too much already.
Starting point is 00:33:32 We have to hold you to a higher standard. Jordan, you're an Olympic athlete. We definitely have to hold you to a higher. Like, that's stupid. It didn't make any sense to me. Just because everybody else can't do this, you're going to hold her to a higher standard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Like, you're relying too much on that. She's not relying too much on that. In this dance, I think this was like, it was sort of like a tester like, all right, we haven't really done all of the gymnastics stuff for the last couple of weeks. We got away from. it. We just focused on the dance. You've done a great job. Let's do both.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Why not do both? I thought it was risky because last week was the rope dance. I get that. Yeah, but that was prop work. You and I agree. Anytime there's props involved, it's like, all right, you're taking a risk here. It is a risk. This one is more, you have dancing down, in my mind anyway, you have dancing down. Obviously, you're a gymnast. Let's merge them together. See what happens. Like, let's use your strengths for our better and try to make this dance as good as possible. And I feel like they got knocked for it. Like, I thought this was perfect.
Starting point is 00:34:28 This was perfect in my eyes. And you can tell that Carianne, again, this seemed like a correction in a positive way because she gives her a 10 this week, which she deserved the 10. And she even makes a note to, because she was really critical of the rope. She makes a note to say,
Starting point is 00:34:44 you took a risk again, but guess what? This week it paid off. I was like, I was overthinking it, as I tend to do. She's a wild card, but only she bounces, between tens and nine so it's not that big of a deal it's usually like i think derrick derrick and bruno tend to vote very very similar i think derrick is the one that's like not
Starting point is 00:35:05 really into it like gymnastics isn't dancing bruno is the number one i wanted to be as pure yeah to the to the to the dance that it's supposed to be yeah that's why when robert goes he's like that was a pasta doble yeah that was fucking it thank you for keeping he he's a very traditionalist yeah when it comes to dancing away from what this is and i think derrick is is similar to that. There's no gymnastics and jazz. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Like that kind of vibe. So she gets a 10 to 9, a 10 and a 9. Obviously, the flavor of 5.10. But I thought that she deserved the 40. I agree. Like, what more do you need to? This was my most enjoyable dance of the night. Same.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I thought it was entertaining. She's a wild card a bit because you don't really know what to expect from her. Like, it's usually very solid. But it enthralls me when she gets the gymnastics evolved. It's so good. Why are we not, I don't know, whatever. She was hitting the moves like Tina. Yeah, she was doing great.
Starting point is 00:35:58 She had the same vibe. I don't know. It was so good. Even the dancers, like, somebody put something up on TikTok where you can see the reactions in the backgrounds when they go through the scores. They were all pissed off. Like, the professional dancers, like, you fucking nine, really? They all thought that it was perfect.
Starting point is 00:36:13 It was tens across the board. This was a very weird scoring night. Yeah, I didn't care for it, especially when we're talking. It's like nines or tens, but it's a big difference. There is a huge difference, yeah. You know? So I was upset with her. scoring once again she deserved a 40 she gets a 38 keep your head up Jordan you're a fucking
Starting point is 00:36:30 gold medal winner you can do this it takes us to the last dance of the night one more pasadouble from robert irwin and whitney carson to one of my old walkout songs icky thump by the white stripes fucking great song great dance great dance where he fucked it up was that intro yeah because where it would have been awesome I love the background dancers when we do those routines and shit but you could see they were keeping time
Starting point is 00:37:00 and he was ever so slightly off of that's that's the thing that I've noticed the most over the last couple of weeks when somebody does a dance that incorporates the troop it's almost like here's the comparison right in front of your face here's the timing you should have
Starting point is 00:37:14 and there's the timing you're doing which is why when Jordan went and had the troop I was like that was exceptional yeah because everybody was on time this one it was noticeable and like to our dumb brains we need that to see this it's like oh fuck I can tell right now you're off the time and then when some one of the judges says it's like yeah right we can do this I could do your job totally yeah the intro falls a little short but the dance itself he caught back up it was great it was perfect it was a great dance I do believe the routine on the actual
Starting point is 00:37:43 dance floor was a perfect routine I agree the preamble was where we ran into problems the judges agree but again like Robert has the fan plus the judge like you can tell people love Robert Irwin obviously love his family we're not making any Steve Irwin jokes tonight so just making sure I just make sure I don't even know what you're talking about okay cool but Robert's one of my favorites I like my two I got Robert and Jordan are my faves I think I've got Robert and Alex those are your two favorites from the dark corners of our imagination comes a game show that's more ridiculous than terrifying.
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Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah, so I'm stoked to see where he goes from here, but what I need from Robert, okay, since week one, honestly, we've had some fantastic dances, some emotional dances. The tribute to his mother was great. I think I know what you're going to say. Near perfect routines. We haven't had that ump factor that week one had. Week one had. Week one was such a great introduction. Yes. He was immediately the favorite. I've been chasing that high since. So have I. And I think he's got it.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I think he's got it in there. He knows he has it. I think he's struggling with, it seems like every week he's doing better on the actual format of the dance, but he doesn't have his personality infused in it. That's a good way. Whereas the first week, he didn't really know what to expect. It didn't really matter. He was going to make it through regardless because of who he is.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And he had a great dance. He was excited. There was a lot of confidence. There was a lot building up. up to it and then every week since it's like you gotta make sure you're doing this got to make sure you're doing that so he's not able to kind of like allow himself to fully open up and i think he's worried that if he does that he's gonna fuck something up and then just get knocked back down i think you're right so i think what we need and again he's got the fan vote he'll get through to you know
Starting point is 00:41:09 probably assuming he's getting through to the quarterfinals to the semis once it hits that point where it's make a break that's what we have to do i need him to maybe we'll get it yeah all in makes it to the final, I think we're absolutely going to get it. Well, I mean, at that point, I need him to get to a place where it's like, this is either going to be my best answer, or I'm going to fuck something up. Yeah, liver die. Yeah, Hail Mary time for Robert. He hasn't plateaued.
Starting point is 00:41:32 That's my whole point. No, I know. There's one more level. He's learning. Yeah, and he's getting better. And that's where he's going to jump into that tier, that one more notch up with Whitney and Alex. I agree.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And I need him to do that. We need somebody to make a push to compete with those two. by the semifinals or else it's going to be kind of obvious who's going unless andy sneaks in there which we can all hope for but yeah they go two nines and two tens total of 38 so very good score takes us to these wacky things they do at the end this team dance team dance was stupid there's no way this can actually matter i don't think it does i mean they gave them scores daniel got a perfect plus a 34 34 yeah so like she must have got no fan votes but you would think that would jump her like that extra I don't think I really don't think that the team score has made any sense like it was sort of like that one last week that they did yeah the monster yeah the monster dance were like Whitney
Starting point is 00:42:30 Whitney and Mark won but like immediately after Derek was like that's not who I was saying should have won should have been Alex that won that's what I thought that's why Whitney bias comes in where everyone's like why why are we fucking I don't know everyone loves Whitney for some reason yeah the team dances were stupid and obviously the team that had Andy isn't going to win right so Why are we even bothering to do this?
Starting point is 00:42:51 I don't know. Just to fill some time until we get to the elimination, I guess? Yeah, because it's a two-hour run, and I need to put something in there to do. Well, let's get to the elimination. Let's do it. Do you want to do it by person by person like they did? No, not really. Yeah, we lose to Panga.
Starting point is 00:43:07 She gets the vote, and I think it was time, you know, because Andy's not going anywhere. He's got the popular vote, and she, you can blame it on the hammy. you can blame it on a lot of things. She gave it her best. She was a delight to watch. It was. And we got the Mr. Feeney moment. So like with somebody like that who, you know, they're not going to win,
Starting point is 00:43:29 just make sure they get their big moments. We got the big moment. She got through the hamstring injury. This was a win for her. Yeah, it was a solid run for her. You know, it's time for her to go. Obviously, she's better than Andy, but that's a different story. She was noticeably on a different level than the majority remaining.
Starting point is 00:43:47 If I had to guess that, though, because again, I do think that Andy's going to make it through. Obviously, he made it through this week. I think he's going to make it through next week. I really don't. I think Dylan's on the chopping block next week. It's Dylan or Andy. I think it's...
Starting point is 00:43:59 In my eyes, I think Andy's going to make it through next week, regardless for the fan vote. I think it might be Dylan or Elaine. Actually, it's going to be... I was about to say Elaine is in that... They have to be the next in line for not getting the fan vote. Well, it's Dylan Elaine or Andy. Yeah. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And it could go any which... way. It's a bummer that Elaine's on that list because I think that she deserves to go further, but I just don't know. I don't know if everyone's having the same reception to Elaine that I am, where I'm a big fan. I don't know if she's got the same kind of star power as the rest of the people she's going up against, unfortunately, because I think she deserves a chance to win that mirror ball trophy. But the group dances are 40 and 38, by the way. Didn't mention that, but yeah. Knock down two points for Andy. Yeah, exactly. But, Yeah, Danielle goes home, and, you know, we got our Feeney moment.
Starting point is 00:44:52 We got our Feeney moment. That's all we needed. But let's see if we have any questions. This has been hit or miss for a lot of people watching this show. First one up here from It's Sin. For me, it's going to be between Robert, Jordan, or Whitney, who are y'all's top picks for winners? I think Alex is going to win. Just if we're doing one winner, I think Alex is going to win.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I think it's going to be, if we take Whitney out of the picture, it's going to be Alex versus Robert, I would guess. No, fuck, then Jordan. I think Alex is going to win. Just pick me, give me a winner. Oh, no, I don't think Alex is going to win. Oh, well, give me a winner. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Fuck it, I'll say Jordan. Okay. Fair enough. From Jamie Gibbs, what is happening with the scoring? We don't know. We've been talking about it. Yep. We have no idea.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I don't know. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I think that this year more so than any other season that I've watched or heard about, this is the most the scoring. has been discussed. Yep. From Gigi, the geek mom. Do you think Whitney deserves all the hate that she's getting?
Starting point is 00:45:54 And should Andy still be there? The Andy question is a deeper question. Is Whitney getting shit on? I don't know. I mean, people online are probably shitting on her. The people that know and watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives probably are giving her a little shit. She's a great dancer.
Starting point is 00:46:10 There's no issue there. She's just personality-wise. Like, that's why Andy's getting through is because his personality is so great. And he's getting the fan vote. And he's enjoying himself, and he's learning some things. Whitney's just kind of there to give us a good dance. Oh, dude, if she gets voted off before the finals. If she gets voted off before Andy, that would be electric.
Starting point is 00:46:30 It would, but you know that next season, when we recap Secret Lives, is going to be all about how she got hosed. That competition was rigged. I think it's already going to be about Dance with the Stars because she was caught laughing when Jim went home. Yeah, that I remember that. Yeah. Well, yeah, because Danielle Fischel was like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah. Yeah. And then last one here from Rachel Mickelis. Curious about your thoughts of Andy still being here. Again, I like it. I have no problem with it. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But that's all we got for questions. And obviously, we're getting down to it. So it's going to be interesting how they're going to fill their two hours with. I just need to know who, there are how many. My vote, my guess, is that two people go home next week. That makes the most sense to me. And then we're left with five going into the semis
Starting point is 00:47:24 and then three for the final. That would make sense to me. So two people go home per week. I will probably be wrong, but that's my prediction. I agree. Because a finale with three makes sense. It makes a lot of sense to me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And then that gives you by Whitney. It's either Whitney, Alex, and Jordan, or Whitney, Alex, and Robert. Okay. You keep getting stuck on this. I love it. I think that's fair. Those three potential outcomes or two potential outcomes are probably the most likely barring the best dance ever from one of the other ones.
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