Bros & Shows - Fake-Ups and A New Devil On Hudson's Shoulder (Next Gen NYC Full Recap S2E1)

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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free of charge. BetMGEMGEMP operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Well, you guys love season one so much, and we're here to give you guys what you want, which means that we had to dive into next gen season too. Yeah, I mean, we were in a blender last year. Let's be very honest. Between hate watching OC and having to figure out how to do Love Islands, you guys all wanted us to do next gen.

You guys wanted our thoughts on it. We just couldn't deliver. We have performance issues. I guess we're on that. the podcast version of Viagra this time. So we're ready to go. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock.

And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros.

Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am a co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by crypto torture goots what's up dude it's one of my favorites oh that's gonna be a good one uh i know i just said the the podcast version of viagra what is the podcast for a lot of people it's probably cocaine i would imagine yeah like just doing it doing a ton of low and doing podcasting uh for us it's the power of friendship um uh friendship nicotine and coffee yeah yeah some kisses sprinkled in there um yeah

Like, yeah, so this was, this was like a culture shock. I know you felt the same way because we were texting during it. This was definitely a culture shock. The way that this show is shot, has been shot is so erratic. But I guess it's not because they're all talking about the same thing. It's just like, splice, splice, splice. I was just so lost at first that I kind of like got my bearings. I'm like, oh, okay, no, it's fine.

Like, I don't really have to like worry about who's talking about what. they're all kind of saying the same thing and you're getting the general sentiment towards things. But it was so wild to just watch this and then maybe watch like a housewives episode afterwards where everything is so segmented. You're like, oh, no, this is a lot easier to follow. As the resident note taker, this was a fucking nightmare to try to keep track of. Don't let that deviate. I enjoyed this show.

I get it. I understand the buzz from last year. I like the cast. I think that they are shockingly comfortable. granted they all grew up in front of a camera so that might have something to do with it but no I really I like the cast a lot I like the flow of the show

but it's like a fever dream and it's clearly cut for Gen Z and the younger generation because you can tell a lot of our attention spans thanks to social media and post-COVID are very very short this show

plays like a TikTok video it's just like cut cut cut graphics text message text cut graphic text message bird story plot line shift scenes we're going forward and now we're going backwards like you just never really get comfortable and I would imagine they're trying to appeal to a younger generation which I'm all for I want to bring Bravo into the next generation so it makes sense not to you know coin the name of the show but I get it now But that's something that would have hit in season one, maybe. Like, oh, yeah, next gen.

That makes total sense. I think it's really funny, too, because my takeaway from catching up, figuring all of the dynamics of the group and everything else out, my main takeaway was the non-housewife children are incredible. I mean, they are made for TV. Like, they are, and I know you can say that about a lot of people. And we always say this when we're talking about like Roney or Summerhouse or in the city now. you can kind of just handpick whoever,

as long as they've been in New York for a long period of time, and they'll be fine in front of a camera. This is exactly that. So I was more enthralled by the storylines from the groups of friends that were like actually friends, not just the people thrown in, because I found myself guessing, and I'm still kind of there.

I do know that it happens at some point, but like, Gia Judice being on the show didn't make a ton of sense to me. And she's also not a lot like her mom, so she wasn't doing a lot of the stuff that Teresa did, which probably bothered a couple of people that were looking to see a younger version of Teresa. I bet it did, unfortunately.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I feel like the way that that kind of worked out, like she's got a completely different personality, but it still kind of works for the show. A lot of the deep roots are with other people who aren't actually bravo-centric. Like Brooks getting thrown in there kind of makes sense. I don't, I don't know. We'll work through a couple of things because I had some takeaways that I wasn't really expecting from watching this.

But I don't know. I think it's a good show. I really do. I think that it's a lot of fun and it's a lot of fun. and it's a lot different. And it's a lot more like, honestly, it's like a less polished version of Southern hospitality.

Southern hospitality seems polished compared to this. That's a good way to put it. I think that, you know, they're trying to capture the, not the chaos, but just I think they're really trying to embody that like in your 20s,

in the city, like bopping around chaos a little bit. Like you're doing this, you're doing that. What are your friends doing? What are you doing? And I think they do a good job of that. Granted, like, it is a lot of cuts.

I'm, like, trying to take notes, pausing, rewinding 30 times. I'll get better. I'll have to figure out how to note take on this one. It's going to be a little different than my other ones. It's going to be topic by topic, I would imagine. Exactly. That's kind of how the show is. And I think it's also because, again, like, catching up, the show had a different vibe.

And it was an easy catch up anyway because it was only like eight episodes or something. But going into it, it's like, okay, this seems sort of for this first episode a little bit like a recap, like how do we get here? And a lot of things that happened in the off season. So it was a bit of a catch up for the first like 10 to 15 minutes of it, which explains why it's a 54 minute premiere. But going into what's happening now was when it was like topic to topic to topic. The thing is when they start on the topic, then they start jumping around.

And they're like, what do you think about this? What do you think about this? And everybody feels differently. So it was a little hard to follow, especially still getting used to who they are. Because when you binge something versus watching a week to week and talking about it, we figure things out very quickly by the end of second like the second week i want to say we have everybody's name down we know exactly what's going on you binge something you get like a catch up and then you watch the first episode of the new season you're like i still don't feel comfortable figuring out who's who

yeah but i will agree i i really enjoyed the non-bravo children i also enjoyed the bravo kids like i thought ariana beerman is is great i think that she's a great head of the show it seems like if that's the direction you need to stay away from her family ideally yeah probably and they're going to stealing money from her more than likely. But no, I think that they did a good show. There's nobody on the cast other than one person, and that's probably pretty obvious, that I

I knew there's the one person that's just going to piss you off the whole season is also the same person that's going to bring me the most joy. Like I found him so incredibly funny. And there's also like, there's a couple different layers to it, but I knew he was going to ruffle your feathers, buddy. I

do not care for people like this. I know a few of these kinds of people and like they are the antithesis of me like i just drives me i knew you would pick up on that like yep i don't know all of the things that irritate me about people are embodied in this guy and this guy is charlie charlie drives me fucking nuts so i love how you held out like yeah i'm not going to say his name i want you guys to guess like they already know no it's charlie shy yeah shy i i i love shy actually but Here's what I'll say. Charlie, I get why he's on the show.

He makes a lot of sense on this show. I think he's a pivotal cast member on this show, just given one episode. Do I love him? No. Do I respect what he's going to do for this show? 100%. Okay. That's totally fun.

I'm glad. I'm so, it's only been one episode and you're already there. So that's good. That means we don't have a long haul ahead of us. Yeah, maybe it's growth. Maybe it's not. It could also just speak to like watching Charlie and also you already kind of knowing who he was before you even started watching. You already hated him probably.

So then watching him on screen, you're like, no, I actually kind of get it. So as long as he gets thrown into like the necessary evil box for you, that's good. We can we can move forward very easily with all of this. Yeah, because I think you need a volonious presence of some sort on a show like this. And I feel like a lot of the drama we're going to see is probably similar to what we got. in this episode, you know, miscommunications, you know, somebody taking something the wrong way, or you weren't there when I needed you, like that kind of shit. So we need some of it's actually going to do some bad shit.

And Charlie seems like he's going to fuck things up in a big way. He seems like going to try to point people that don't want to point. Seems like he's got to go for girlfriends potentially. It feels like he is the button presser for actual drama, whereas a lot of the other stuff might just be kind of not trivial, but maybe just not that meat and potatoes of drama that you really want to sink your teeth into. I feel like he's going to deliver on that stuff. So yeah, necessary evil.

I get why he's on the show. My favorite, though, is shy. I love shy. And the fact that his name is shy and he does seem shy. And he's like this innocent third party to this whole thing that's like, I'm just happy to be here kind of vibes. Like I love that we have that on the show. Yeah, we definitely need that.

And also, I will preface probably most of our episodes with. A lot of these problems seem pretty trivial. Like, I don't really think that they're that big of a deal, but that also just goes to show that generation. A bunch of rich kids living in New York City on their parents. It's rich kids in their young 20s. Like, there's going to be a lot of weird shit.

It's basically like, I don't know. There's no real other show to compare it to necessarily. But if you throw them all together, a lot of the things, especially in season one, are the most trivial things ever. Like Charlie and Georgia just get into a fight because he took her,

or she took his speaker. and he was freaking out about having a speaker because he needed to pregame. Like, it's just like college level shit, which is very funny. That then evolves into a big fight where they don't talk to each other anymore, which is very funny. So there's a lot of weird trivial things that I think will find incredibly funny and not annoying, which I think is that sweet spot. Yeah, it gives, you know what it's like, I'll give you a show to compare it to my super sweet 16. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty close. Yeah. Really close. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. but let's jump in because we're going to be jumping around a lot. This is also a, you know, like a get right episode for us. We can figure out how to properly recap this as it does seem to go topic to topic.

So in the future, I'm going to try to take note next episode. We're going to do topic by topic and see how that works out for me. But like you said, it's just kind of a catch up, you know, we're checking in with everybody. You get Amira is kind of leading the charge. She's narrating the scenes. and we get the updates, which I appreciate just out of the line. Charlie, obviously the crypto torture house stuff, yeah, Brooks making sourdough bread.

Riley is on the Asia leg of her Riley World Tour, to which I have a lot of questions. Is Riley a musician or is she just traveling the world? I'm sure that's easy to figure out, but maybe, I don't know, Ariana. Her clothing line is no longer. I do remember the one episode I saw was her and Hudson checking out I think it was fabric together for their clothing line.

They were starting together, but canceled the clothing line because her and Hudson are having issues. Now, my question for you, what is your takeaway from like the Hudson and Ariana vibe? Like, do we like this couple? Do we want this to be that rooted couple in this show? Or do we want to start out,

just got a clean slate, nobody's dating anybody? it's not really going to matter because I do think I think in ways they're still together I don't think all right so spectrum would be where Ava is saying I don't believe anything I think this is all a storyline for the show and where they're trying to convince us which is you know it just isn't for me anymore like we have to break up and that was the end of season or not even the end of the season wasn't four days before season two started and then 10 or 10 days before she was when she was talking about moving out so like all of this happened very quickly right before

the season. So I don't even blame Ava for sitting down and being like, this is fucking bullshit. There's no way that they just broke up. They're doing this for show. I think, realistically, what's going on, and I don't like the way that they're putting it under these guys. But I think realistically what's going on is they've been together for a very long time. They've been together for like 10 years.

They are about to move on to the next steps in their life, but they haven't really tried anything. They haven't lived in New York single together or away from each other or whatever. So it's almost like a trial period. Like, hey, let's, What probably what Amanda and Kyle were trying to do and in the city, quote unquote, but Amanda was clearly just trying to leave Kyle behind. It's sort of like, hey, let's live separately and see how this goes.

And then obviously if we come back together and everything works out perfectly, then we'll get engaged and we'll move on with their lives. It's sort of like a trial period for me. But I wish that they would just be forthright with whatever it is because I know we're going to get stuck on this for about four or five episodes, just talking about whether or not it's legit. I think it's legit, given what I've seen. They're basically back together. But I do think that it was like we're doing this.

I think it's hysterical that they put out a joint statement. The amount of Bravo loves what he got joint statements now is comical. Like when did that start? Like who was the first one to do that? And why is that like who, who said it? I think Ava might have said it. But like. Eva or Georgia was talking about it.

I think Georgia was the one here. Yeah, I think she was the one who said it, which I think is incredibly funny. Because if you're in the Bravo world, you've already been the. Bravo con as we see when we're doing the catch up. You should start to catch on to how these things work. And we always talk about joint statements because I think they're fucking hilarious. Like, who cares what you're doing? Just move on with your lives and then let people figure it out.

People will figure it out in the Bravo community regardless. But just do that. You don't have to put out a joint statement unless you have like a business together and things are about to get messy. Then go ahead. I don't know. Or maybe you're just pissed off and you want to put out a statement. Whatever.

Putting out a joint statement when you're like in your 20s and you just have, had one season of being on the show. Granted, Ariana was somewhat loosely connected to Atlanta for a few years, but like as a child, that doesn't really, yeah. It doesn't count.

Like, honestly, I just don't really get it. I think it's fucking hilarious that they did this. I did too. But also, and again, this is why both camps kind of work,

because I understand in the Bravo world why you put out a joint statement, as funny as it can be. But I also understand if you're Ava and Georgia sitting down reading it, you're like, this is bullshit. The season starts in three days. Like, best. And who the fuck do they think they are kind of vibes, which is fun.

Yeah. But speaking of Georgia and Ava, we get to catch up with them. And, you know, for me, it was my first time meeting these two. And, you know, Georgia had some issues with an eating disorder that she discussed last season. I guess she went to an inpatient program that she's doing much better. She even says they were seeing me in a really, really good place, which I, that's what I want for every person on this show, because there's going to be a very real aspect of this. And it's going to make me sound old as shit, but whatever. Where they're, like, in their early 20s. Like, I don't want to see, like, super dark shit.

I want them to, like, have fun and, and live a good life and not be bogged down by, like, super dark shit. I don't know if that's going to happen or not. You know, it is real life. So what will happen will happen. But I want to see, I just want them to thrive, you know, their kids. I want them to be kids, you know, go out there and live your lives. Well, and that's the other funny component about this. Like, as we know, Brooke.

already has his own fashion line. He's already in the fashion world. We've seen how Lisa Barlow has been training her kids to be entrepreneurs. That's pretty much just running rampant in all of the Housewives world. So we're going to see a lot of that for sure, especially being in New York. Like you're going to get a little bit of both. I thought we'd get more crypto, but we only got one crypto guy, which is good. And I feel like the rest of it just kind of falls into place. And once you start seeing them like those light bulbs go off in their head, they're like, whoa, wait a minute. I can use my publicity. I can use all of my PR from being on Bravo. to do something that I'm really passionate about.

It's like, are you really passionate about it? Or do you want to just make some money? Okay, whatever. I don't really care. Just go ahead and do that. Let it crash and burn or let it thrive. I want to see both things. Like, just do both.

That's completely fine with me. I would love if we got an NFT guy. I know we got a crypto guy. But we got like a full blown NFTs guy. No one does NFTs anymore. So if this show came out like eight or nine years ago, I think we'd be right prime in that NFT slot. But again, obviously the majority of this cast

would be underage at that point. So it wouldn't really matter. Yeah, but oh, that would be so funny to have an NFT guy. But Ava, she just got evicted from her Manhattan home. I hate that a certain somebody is the one that got the nod to deliver the information via TikTok. Not that I care if, like, I don't care that it wasn't us. We're not even talking about it. But anybody else, I would have much heard.

Literally. Literally. Literally. Anybody else. after the friend call from Salt Lake. I could have sworn he got blacklisted from Bravo after that because that was so, it was such a bad time on Salt Lake City doing all of that that you would think they would turn to be like, all right, we're going to use this.

And obviously, like we already talked about this show is geared towards that social media. So yeah, of course, we're going to have, you know, running, going down Broadway and looking up at the lights and seeing all the TikToks about the show, you don't have to include everybody. I mean, you can kind of cut it off. for the sup podcast. Just put sup up there a bunch and that's completely fine by me. But after that, you don't have to put on anybody else. It's okay.

So giving him that spotlight for about two or three minutes just to go through everything. Which, by the way, if you compare, this was my big, like hiccup with this. The Ava and Dame getting evicted thing was pretty much similar news to Ariana and Hudson breaking up. I agree. Like, did we need more time on this? Probably not, especially not giving it to. a content creator like any literally any content creator shouldn't be on a bravo show for about

two to three minutes it just doesn't make any sense to me including us by the way including us please do not include us in that because we will get absolutely dragged yeah no you can put us in like a little quip little like we've done that before we've had little clips in there but not like uh yeah that was a long one but anyway as most people know you know daman dash dame dash was the co-founder of rock a Rockefeller records with Jay-Z. So I can't begin to imagine how you go bankrupt if you're, he's broke, kind of that.

He's like fully broke. Also, you know much money he must have spent like that? Think about that. Did you, did you know that also Ava's mom is Becky with the good hair? No. Oh,

yeah. Not. Yeah, that's fun. So it's, it all goes into a nice fun loop and it brings Jay Z and Beyonce into it, which is always a good time. but yeah, Dane is like fully broke now. So it was him and we find out later in the episode.

Obviously, Ava's like, I mean, I'm not going to say that my dad's the reason, but like I was paying my rent. He just wasn't. So I wonder what that setup was if she was been mowing him and then he was like, yeah, I'll pay the rent and he was just taking it to do whatever, probably paying off his bills. It's just, yeah, it's a messy situation. You would think Ava and Ariano would be better friends. Right.

my dad stole my money too. Hers was more her mom, but yeah, I mean, also her dad. So yeah, no, I was just say like my dad

is in my parent also stole. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you would think that, you know, there's, there's a good foundation

for a friendship, but yeah, maybe it'll work out eventually. Yeah, trauma bond. It's built in. But Ava's with Hook. Hook is in the AEW.

Mm-hmm. Wrestling, which is awesome. Pretty sweet. Yeah, it's incredible. He's out. in Missouri. I love any time on any show, regardless of network. If Kansas City gets brought up,

we always have to have the Missouri conversation. Is it in Missouri? There's no way. Kansas City's in Kansas. No, it's technically in both. Yeah. Isn't there also a Kansas City in Kansas though that's not related to any of this? Yeah. There's Kansas City. No, it's all the same, but like there's a little tiny section of Kansas City in Kansas, but the majority's in Missouri. Yeah. Missouri. Yeah. Missouri. Yeah. down there in Missouri. But yeah, I mean, between the AEW guy and a guy who plays in three rec leagues for hockey, I mean, this is a fun cast. This is a very fun cast.

I liked Liam a lot. We're going to get to him in a little bit, but I like that vibe where he just kind of does everything. But they're talking about Charlie. Now, there's a lot of drama with Charlie. I guess, like, this is the stuff I wish I watched last year to get kind of a read on it. He's talking about like Aetla's body. Like he just seems to say whatever the fuck he wants. He's that guy where he's like, oh, you know, I'm edgy and cool.

I'm going to say shit that people get uncomfortable with because I'm edgy and cool because I do crypto is the vibe that I get. So he doesn't have a lot of friends in this group other than really a mirror, honestly, from what we've seen in this episode. But we jump back to Ariana moving out of her apartment. I think it's hysterical that she booked a brand deal for this and just like documenting her. It's great. Yeah.

Make that money. I actually think it might be therapeutic. Like when she's going through all this, I was waiting for her to say that too. I'm like, she's just kind of gearing up to say, this has all been very therapeutic. It keeps my mind off of the fact.

I'm like, I don't think it does keep your mind off of it because you're just talking about the fact that you're moving out, but go for it. Whatever makes you feel better. She never really got there, but I think she was hinting at it.

Look, that's great. I mean, we've seen that before. Carl did it when him and Lindsay were working. And Lindsay did it too. Actually, no, Lindsay did it for the movers. Carl did it for the closet organizer. or vice versa, whatever it was. It's becoming a staple, and I love that for a breakup.

Yeah, me too. I think every Bravo couple that gets broken up should book a brand deal for the move out. Yeah. I think it does. It probably softens the blow a little bit. You're focused on something else. But we just get more info about the relationship with Hudson. You know, they've been dating pretty much since they were 14 years old.

But she was always the one kind of supporting him. You know, she was always the one trying to pick him up, get him moving. I guess he's the son of a billionaire. So he doesn't do anything. Like as she's supporting him, nobody's supporting her. And after like six months, she told him like,

hey, I feel alone, not feeling great. I need you to pick it up. You got to do better, pal. And he didn't show up. So she decided to move up,

which is sad. But I'm curious because there was a couple of moments later on where it's like, are we going to see the, not revenge at it? from him, but the, like the rom-com edit of, I got to get my life together to get my girl back because that, it was giving that a little bit.

No, I mean, I don't think we're going to get it because he immediately just folds in with Charlie. And that's going to be bad news for him. That's part of the rom-com, too, though. That's the conflict. It is. Yeah, that's going to be the conflict. So I think we're going to get a bit of Charlie saying,

ah, you don't need her, dude, just come hang out with me and do all these things. But by the way, pay for these things because I know you can afford it and we'll just do whatever you want to do. But really, I'm going to set you up with these girls. We're going to set things right in the world. That's probably where we're going to head, at least for a little while. And then he's going to hate himself. And he's going to go back to Arianna.

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It seems like Brooks is just fed up in general with all of Charlie's bullshit. He doesn't feel like dealing with Charlie on behalf of his friends because nothing was really said about Charlie doing anything directly to Brooks? No, I think he just rubs Brooks the wrong way, but I don't, after watching this show, my takeaway from Brooks is that he's kind of a big baby. Like, you have to get over some shit. And look, in the real world, maybe not.

But I feel like you, you should have taken away from reality TV, from your mom being on it. You have to get over things. Like, you can't just hold on to stuff. And it seems like he's been holding on to random things, like the things that Charlie says to other girls in the group. Like,

I don't care for that. I'm just done with. him. You kind of have to get over that. So when he's just standing there pissed off and talking about him the whole time, like, you still haven't really said why you don't like him. You just, you're, I'm okay with you not liking him, but you still have to be able to film with him. You still have to be able to somewhat interact with the guy. I wonder if that's going to be a problem because I could see that for a younger crew not knowing like, oh, we need to kind of just bite the bullet and film together. It could go either way, honestly, because I do think the background and reality

TV growing up around it. They're more in tune with how these shows work. But at the same time, I could see them be like, I'm not dealing with that shit. Fuck him and not doing it. So I'm curious if we're going to see some holdups when it comes to conflict on this show, especially going into a second season. I'm bummed that we didn't recap last season because everyone loved it so much. But at the same time, I'm definitely more excited for the sophomore season of this show,

because you got a cast that they're used to. to it a little bit. They've been through the ringer. They're getting comfortable. This is also where you're going to see some people kind of falter a little bit and have a misstep and maybe not do the best. So I think that the sophomore season of a show is so important. If you look back to their hospitality, they crushed their sophomore season. That kind of launched them. Then season three was big. Season four is massive. So I'm excited to see what they do in year two. I'm just curious where the snags are going to be. And is that going to be because like, is it going to be more of a pro or a con that they grew up on TV.

You know what I mean? It could be a con. I could absolutely see that being a con where they've realized what this can do to their real life and the ramifications that come along with it if they act the wrong way on a show. So maybe they're already kind of cognizant of that. I do think the majority of the conflict

is just going to come from whatever Charlie's doing, whether he's pushing Hudson to do something, pushing shy to do something doing something. Which is why I recognized he's so important. Correct. Yeah. Now, the rest of it, obviously, there is conflicts within the girls, but a lot of it seems very trivial. And again, maybe to them it's not that trivial. Maybe it's something that they think they'll never get over. But from our perspective, it just seems

very trivial. So I feel like they will get over it. You're still going to need conflict. So I think it's all going to really come from Charlie. And then how everybody else reacts to it is going to be the thing to kind of keep an eye on if they don't want to film with Charlie anymore. Is that going to be a problem for the season? Exactly. And that's going to be probably the most interesting thing to watch and that leads us into Charlie's kind of intro of the season. It is nighttime. Dude, if you're going to be the guy that does the sunglasses at night, fine. Fine.

But don't say some stupid shit like that. What do you mean? It's like basically nighttime for me. It's black with these sunglasses on. Are you stupid or are you just trying to be cool and quirky? I'm not entirely high as balls. I mean, I do think that he's probably got to be watching his back a lot with a lot of the things going on.

He doesn't really want to miss steps. So I do wonder if that's going to come into play. But, I mean, there were plenty of times in the first season where you would go to Charlie's apartment. You'd look around and be like, oh, Jesus, dude, you've got bongs just like everywhere. There's weed all over the table. So he's probably just stoned out of his mind, just talking to random people and just talking shit. So that's probably what was going on. Does he actually have money?

He's a depot. He's broke. Oh, he is actually a depop. Okay. No. All right. Well, then why does it? No real relationship.

No real relationship with his, with his parents. Oh, so he just gets them on. Oh, okay. Well, that explains a lot. We're getting there. See, we're breaking down the shell of Charlie. Now we're starting to understand why he functions the way that he does.

But obviously the big question mark, and we talked about this last year, actually on one of our news recaps, the crypto torture house. If you don't remember, there was a house in, I believe Manhattan. And it was where I like the crypto bros hung out.

They had kidnapped an Italian man. right? Yep, an Italian tourist. An Italian tourist was locked in the basement for an extended period of time and put through actual torture, like a waterboarding and a bunch of other wacky shit. And upon finding that person, Charlie was living at the crypto house.

Now, he claims to have known nothing about it. And he's also playing, and I can't talk about a card, which probably he can't. I'll actually give him that. That's one of those times that I'm going to give him a pass. Like, yeah, I agree.

I don't think you got. I don't think even regardless of the legal ramifications, like you should probably just shut up about it for other ramifications because it sounds like there's some shady peeps involved with this crypto torture house. And any time you say that sentence, I would dread lightly. Crypto torture house to me tells me like creepy online presence people. Yeah, it gives me the heby-jibis. But his big goal, and it appears to me that this is going to be his goal in the season,

he wants to corrupt Hudson. He just needs to, you know, have a little bit more me in his ear because that's what he needs a little fire. I'm like, you seem like a disaster waiting to happen. You're the kid that parents tell their kids not to hang out with. And now you're trying to get a hold of Hudson, who seems like a pretty sweet kid. It seems like he's young.

He's got a lot of growing up to do. Like the real world might smack him in the face or not because he's the son of a billionaire, so it's probably not going to matter ever. But that's going to be kind of interesting to see if that is going to be what he's going to do. He's going to try and corrupt the nice guy, the sweet kid, try to bring him over to the dark side.

I mean, yeah, that's kind of the path that I see this going down. Now, again, it's really all going to matter on whether or not Ariana and Hudson are actually quote unquote broken up because that's where it's going to come into play. If he doesn't want to do anything to really piss her off or make things just too volatile to get back together because at the end of the day, at least where we are right now in the first episode, he really wants to get back with her. I mean, he's basically just denying that they're even broken up,

which is very funny because Ariana is saying something completely different. But if they are truly broken up and truly taking space and actually staying separate and living separate lives, that's going to be Charlie's way in for both of them, as we find out later, because he probably will try to boink Ariana at some point. But for Hudson, that's going to be big for him because it seems to me that he's very impressionable,

and I feel like Charlie is the worst kind of person to be around if you're very impressionable. and that's going to be his downfall. How far it goes, I'm not positive yet. Again, it's going to hinge on a couple different things, but that's pretty much his angle. I love that that's his angle going into this. Like, that's very funny to me.

He's got so much going on. He's got the crypto torture house in his back pocket right now. He's got the cops like breathing down his neck. He's probably got like FBI and DEA and all this shit like looking at him. And he's like, can't really talk about any of that. But you know what I really want to do? I want to corrupt a billionaire son. That's what I want to do.

I'm like, go for it. See how that goes. I'm going to get him to invest in an NFT with me. I'm going to bring NFTs back. I'm going to keep harping on the NFT thing. We're going to see. I bet me at some point we're going to hear it. I just hear it.

I don't think, no, because you didn't hear it in the first season. I feel like that's when you would have. They're coming back now. I don't know why you want that to come back. I think that was the stupidest thing. That's why. Like when that started happening, I just remember how dumb the previs was and the amount of money that

celebrities were spending on non-fungible tokens for like it made no sense to me and then the best part is people just started copying and pasting the images like well that's not the original it's like no one fucking cares it's not like a piece of artwork it's like you got like a Picasso genuine Picasso painting versus like a print it's a fucking digital picture and people lost it thought it was so funny watching people lose money on them but anyway we got a little cameo with teresa you got to see tree for just a brief minute as Gia is moving out. So she's finally leaving the nest in Jersey and she's going to move. It looked like Jersey City or Hoboken.

She's across the bridge. She's getting there. Yeah, it's probably one of those two. But she was going to move out with Christian, who's her boyfriend, I believe. But they are not moving out together. I don't think they broke up. I think she's just doing her own thing. Okay.

Well, then I respect that move a lot. I respect that I'm going to do it on my own. I think it's kind of close to what Ariana is doing. It's sort of like, yeah, we haven't really tested the waters of living separately. So when I was thinking about moving in with Christian, I'm not going to do it anymore. I want to spread my wings and fly on my own, but still be in this relationship. And that's pretty much what Arianna and Hudson are doing at this point. She might be trying to lay a fire under his ass a little bit to try to get a moving.

But you're doing something similar. But again, and I think that this happens because I do remember Gia moving to New York at some point. So it probably happens at some point this season, but right now she's in Jersey. So that, again, is just very funny to me because she has to come into New York City to film all of these things because they are not going over there. I just don't understand why she's not moving to the city. Like, is she anti-New York? It's not like you can't afford it.

Well, I mean, I don't know what Louis. No Italians. They have to be close to home. That's it. Yeah, it's a good point. Very good point. But the big focal point, I believe, of this show is going to be this group, in some way because it kind of brings us along throughout the show.

If we check in with the chat, like you get the text messages like on the screen and like stuff like that. So it seems to be like the center point. But that leads to what we now know is there's some drama between Ava and Gia and Ariana. Now, where the drama came from. And this is what we're talking about with like some of these issues are going to be kind of funny because it's like, oh, who cares? So apparently, Teresa followed Ava and then unfollowed Ava.

Ava didn't like that. Ava said something about that. Gia went on a podcast and Gia called Ava a liar. Now, this seems so very easy to squash. Do we not just check the following list and see if she still follows and then say, hey, told you? And then Gia's going to say, ha, you probably removed her as a follower because my mom wouldn't do that. And I guess, yeah, okay.

No, yep, you just talked yourself and do exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, that's where it's going to end. And I really think it's super funny too because gee, his whole stance is, well, my mom would never do that. Like, why would my mom? She would do that. You're fucking kidding me. She would absolutely do that. Louis would do it too, by the way, just throwing that hell there.

He probably did it. No one noticed, though. No, that Louis probably went through a file. I don't know this person. I don't know this person. One follow. Get Foddietal on it. hit the Dietler.

Somebody called the dealer. But that's when we get introduced to Liam, who's playing ice hockey. Love this guy. Don't really know what he does. He's kind of a jack of all trades. He's an actor. Looks like he did some modeling.

He's a volunteer fireman. He's a ski instructor. He writes in directs. He plays in three men's hockey leagues. Yes. All of that, yes. This is a big giant green flag for me. I want somebody in a group that does everything.

And he seems like he's going to be the counterpart to Hudson is what I'm getting. Yeah, yeah, probably. I feel like he's going to be like the good angel on Hudson's shoulder while you've got Charlie on the other shoulder. Oh, no, I meant. I meant, I meant you meant. Oh, that's interesting. No, no, no.

I meant like with Ariana, it seems like Liam's going after her too. So he's like the new in the rom-com set up. We'll just go with that. We've been doing it. Oh, cool. He's the new, cool, nice guy that the girl fides after she leaves her. long time boyfriend and then it's a constant back and forth of who am i going to pick and liam's just so so nice but hudson there's history yeah i could see it maybe breaking that way i do think that

that's just like kind of a a false front for the first episode like oh this is going to be a big thing the whole time and then because just because in the very short amount of time that we really got to know liam my takeaway was pretty much he's going to think this is weird and just not pursue he seems like kind of normal and like yeah like you said which there might be something to say for what is it? A friend to all is a friend to none or something like that. That's probably what he's doing where he's like, I actor, director, producer, I fish sometimes. I'm a ski instructor. I do hockey in three different things. I'm on Wiki feet. I don't know if you're good at anything, but you do a lot. And I like that you do a lot because maybe you're still figuring it out.

But what he's talking about hockey and Brooks gets there. And Brooks is like, yeah, you know, I was in the pre-NBA too, NHL. Yeah, but I was, you know, 12 years old. I was in fifth grade and I was just, kind of on the on the ice of a bunch of fifth or five year olds rather in salt lake city which is one of probably the only like hockey hubs that we have in the country he was over there just getting bullied by five year olds and i think that is a very funny visual i would love to have a video of that because yeah i hope lisa breaks that one out well i mean not for nothing but like those kids man he's not i believe him when he was like there's like a bunch of little torpedoes like i've seen legit like peewee hockey of like real hockey players it's insane it's

fucking insane it's awesome like juniors obviously they're older but like that shit's intense they think they're out of each other so yeah poor brooks but i i'm very glad he didn't get the heated rivalry role only because could you imagine that show without rosy being rosy like no no it wouldn't work that was that was part of the charm so i'm I'm sorry Liam that you didn't get it, but like I needed my two guys on that show. Yeah, he could have been an extra though. So the fact that he didn't get an extra, again,

kind of goes to what I was saying. Like, maybe you're not that good of an actor. I do love that everybody in the group is like, ah, look at him. Like he's walking in. He got, he got law and order. I look up on I was in like one episode on Law and Order. He's probably a dead guy in the beginning of the episode.

I'm like, okay, yeah, that's fine. He's under the tarp. Yeah. That's me right there. Everybody in the acting world knows that law and order is the right of passage. Like you have to be in an episode of law and order to make it. It's the gateway show. It can be any of the offshoots.

It's just you have to be on a Dick Wolf show, actually. It's just a Dick Wolf show, whatever one you want to be on, but you have to be on a Dick Wolf show. Now, Charlie and Amira, Amira seems to be Charlie's only ally. And they're sitting there going over the invite list. And again, he's talking about Hudson. He's like me if I was whipped and sober. And I won't fuck his girl, probably.

Fuck you, dude. I, God damn it. That's the stuff where I'm just, I can't see straight. I'm like, what do you? If she hooks up with him and like gives him the confidence boost, I told you so. I'm going to be so livid. I'm going to be so upset.

I'm going to be team Hudson. And I don't think I want to be team Hudson because I need him to get off his ass and do something. Yeah. That will get me on to team Hudson really quick if she actually falls for this guy's shit. At least we know exactly what's going to happen because if he does somehow, convince Ariana to hook up with him, he'll turn right around tell Hudson, be like, I do that for you. I needed to prove to you, know, that she's not worth it.

Now you can move on and you can hang out with me all the time. Honestly, that is exactly how he would spit it. And the way things are working right now, it seems like something that might actually work, which is a scary situation. That's actually a very good point. We might actually, you might have just called that one because if he does, it's definitely going to be his excuse without a doubt. And it does appear that there's at least speculation about it later on.

We don't have confirmation yet, but there was speculation in the scenes from this season. But Amira has issues with Georgia because Amira has struggled herself with eating disorders and things like that. So last year, there was a moment where she had ordered food and Georgia said, oh, the OZempic has worn off. And she didn't take kindly to that. So now they have drama surrounding that, especially considering, again, you know, Georgia had her own issues with eating. disorder and so I'm sure they shared that. So that's kind of a cloud hanging over their friendship that they may or may not squash. Spoiler alert, they seem to.

But there was an apology. We did get a clip of an apology about that. But apparently apology was. I think that's the funniest aspect of all of this because when we're talking about it, at first, again, seems surface level of its friend to friend, a comment, not a big deal. But obviously, if it rubs you the wrong way, you have a conversation about it, seems like she apologized last year, should move on. But the bigger issue is that Amira thinks that Georgia was flirting with her boyfriend while in Mexico or wherever the hell they were.

So yes. So maybe maybe she was, maybe she wasn't. But that seemed to be the bigger issue. And then when we get to the later apology, we kind of just gloss over the first part. It's like, oh, okay, thanks. Like I really appreciate that. But the bigger issue is that I hear through the gay grapevine, which is one of the best. That was such a great explanation.

That shit made me laugh so hard. Yeah. But I heard through the gay grapevine. grapevine that you are upset with me because you think that I was flirting with your boyfriend. I would never do that. Amir is so caught off guard that she's like, I didn't, yeah, I didn't know that you knew. Okay. Yeah, that sounds good.

It's like that that's really all it took because I felt like while we're talking to Amira and Charlie that amira's bigger issue is that is the issue with her. She says later that didn't even matter to her. That's why she didn't even matter to her. I was going to bring it up. Yeah, she was going to bring it up later. This was going to be a later issue. I'm actually happy to see that because that tells me that Georgia knew about it.

She decided to squash it, get ahead of it. That way, it can't be an issue later because I do think that was a tactic from Amira to be like, all right, yeah, let's have this out now. And then the next time that you do something wrong, I can bring this up in a very big way that'll really stop you in your tracks. It's like, no, no, no, actually Georgia got ahead of it. So that tells me that she's pretty smart and she's going to get ahead of these things, which I love to see.

I really like Georgia because she is the weird quirky one that you need on a show like this because she just says stuff. It doesn't even make sense sometimes, but she's just talking. And that drives things forward a lot because she's going to say something weird at the wrong time, piss somebody off, and it's going to be good to watch.

But there's a pregame happening. We got like a split pregame. They got Ariana. You got Austin, Gia, and Breel, who is Ariana's sister. And then on the flip side, you got Hudson, Shea, shy, and Charlie's going over there.

now we're just kind of debriefing beforehand we're getting more information about everything again Hudson is very very aware of charlie and what he's planning on potentially doing with ariana so he's like i got to get ahead of things face times ariana's like gotta let everybody know you're still my girl i'm like this is a very confusing breakup for yeah i don't understand it's not broken up doesn't seem like a breakup it seems like um let's use bravo terms are you on pause it seems yeah they're on pause yeah they're on pause Yeah, it seems like a bit of a space pause, if we want to call that. Space pause.

Space pause. To figure things out. But the message doesn't seem very clear to Hudson, who very much so thinks that they're still in a relationship. That's my girl. And when it gets to the party later, it's like, I really want to grab your ass right now, but I'm not going to. It's like, okay. Are you guys? I really want to kiss you right now, but you're not allowed to.

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's where, again, like, I'm still definitely shading towards Team Ava with all of this, because it just seems very weird and very out there. and I know as soon as we get to the party, it's like, oh, wow, this actually might be real. Georgia seems to think it's real right away. She's like, oh, shit, I just asked all those questions that Ariana has just kind of answered everything. Seems like it's a real situation.

Ava's still very skeptical, and I think that's the camp that you want to be in right now, just based off of what we're seeing that they're not privy to. But like you said, he's very aware of what Charlie's doing. And yet he's calling him. He's like, hey, you said 30 minutes. Like, Shai's going to be here in five minutes. You better get your ass over. All right, fine.

I'll get over there. We can pregame and hang out in a beautiful, huge. apartment that is half empty, just full half empty because Ariana moved out of there. We've got a full walking closet, just all gone. It seemed so sad in there, but I know Charlie

walked in there like, hell yeah, I got plans for this place. Exactly. I'm going to move into that room. I'm going to turn that into my gambling cave. Is that your bedroom? No, that's my sex room. I thought you were going to say something else and I was going to have to jump in with allegedly, but yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. allegedly a torture or torture rope allegedly maybe maybe not super allegedly maybe not yeah but

I think it's really funny that you know because obviously a big part of everybody's revenue is influencing they all seem to have a big social media following Ava admittedly doesn't have a big

following on TikTok and I love that she blames lack of brand deals on Gia calling her a liar you weren't work for somebody to call I was like come on Ava she's like I'd have more followers if it wasn't because of this I've only got 18.8000 followers it's like I mean we've seen worse when it comes to new shows

on Bravo so just you know it is what it is and I love that she's like but I'm dame's daughter you would think that I would have like no most people don't even like I know who dame is a lot of people do but not people that are on TikTok that are following influences there age. They don't really care about that. You have to do better things. It's because Gia said that I'm a liar. That's why it's like, okay. Nobody else to follow you because they think you're lying about things.

I thought that was hilarious. You know how many awful people have massive followings that are very openly liars and pieces of shit? So I don't know if that's the case. But it was very funny to hear that. Now, let's get to the birthday party. And again, Amira in Georgia, they have their issues and they end up having a conversation. And like you said, I mean, we talked about this already, but I did also appreciate the getting ahead move. Like, that's a great move. That's always a great move. Just nip it in the bud.

Let's get over this immediately. I would imagine it's going to come back up again when Kevin joins at some point. But for now, it's squashed. Yeah, but I think that, again, just because Georgia got ahead of it, I feel like she's also going to distance herself from all of that. Like, because I know that she got ahead of that and do what was going on, now she doesn't want to get caught in it. So I would, I mean, if I were her, I would just kind of keep my distance from Kevin. But Amira, at least, she got me at first because she's like, all right, yeah, let me just, let me just get into this. I'll just go pull her aside.

We'll go talk about it. I don't really want to talk about it right now. We'll talk about it. And then she seemed to resolve things pretty quickly. But she said like four or five different times during this party, this is a work event for me. I don't want things to pop off. I don't want to do anything bad. So I just get really excited when we're doing an after party, which I'm excited about going to an after party.

but in the moment of you have to let that go. You're going to have to let that go very quick if you want to be able to do both. Exactly. Exactly. But the funny thing with Georgia walking around the party, like speculating about Ariana and Hudson's breakup. Do you think it's real? I like talking to Ariana and Gia.

Then she's like, it is real. It's real. I didn't think it was real. But Ava, guess what it's real. So that's what I'm talking about when it comes to why we need her on this show. Like that's the kind of. stuff that you can't make up. We need somebody on the show.

Between that. Between that and meeting Liam and immediately saying, hey, I know we just met each other, but I am not doing so great because I was up all night last night. I take it a mean shit. Love it. I'm here for it. But Hudson and Charlie arrive.

Brooks is not thrilled to see them walking together. I will give Hudson credit because he goes to a confession. He's like, look, I wasn't emotionally growing. I wasn't motivated. Wasn't doing anything. It wasn't working. So she dropped me. She got rid of me.

I need to do better. Why are you friends with the guy that wants to bang your girlfriend? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me unless it's like a weird kink or something like that. No. Yeah. I don't know. Also, I love when people go to confessionals and they're like, I did a lot of self-reflecting. I'm very aware of my shortcomings.

I need to really fix those. They never fix those things. I don't expect them to do much of anything. Now, especially the son of a billionaire. I would imagine you're just going to buy a bunch of money. and hang out in that giant apartment and then travel the world and then forget that you are supposed to grow. What I imagine is going to happen.

But I think the funny thing that's like easily overshadowed just because we're watching a reality TV show is the gravity of the Charlie thing. Like it's a pretty serious thing that went down and for him to be involved living in that house is pretty serious. And we can't talk about it. Like this, it's this dark cloud that kind of follows everybody around and people allude to it. bring it up. All he can say is like, I don't know. But when I think Brooks is the one that says it, I don't want this person around me and I don't care what happens to him. That to me like snap me out

of the reality TV and be like, oh yeah, like if this was somebody I knew and I'd just seen all back about the news, like I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. I wouldn't even talk to him. So that's like a whole layer to this show that I wonder if that's going to be, it could very well work to the advantage of the show, it could very, very likely be a detriment to the show because it's going to be recurring and we can't talk about it. I imagine it was a bit of a shock too coming back for season two, figuring out who's still on the show and then everybody who doesn't like Charlie seeing that he's still going to be on the show after everything that went down, that was probably a bit of a shock because they thought it was going

to be a much different show and it said they have to do it. They actually have to film with him and now it's tenfold because now you're thinking for a guy like him, it might embolded him in a very weird way. I'm happy to see that he's just fielding questions from G. And he's like, yeah, I don't know. It's pretty fucking nuts. I can't say anything. I can't talk about it.

Please stop asking me. Please. That's wild. Let me walk. Like, that was a very real moment where I'm like, all right. So there is like something in this guy that he understands the capacity of what he can do and can't do when it comes to something like this. So maybe there is a good judgment somewhere in there.

Maybe some of this is just for show and it's just a facade. we'll find out let's figure it out together i'm not confident about that but we will figure it out together for sure watching hudson walk around following ariada like a puppy dog and be like do you do anything you drink can't do anything oh man i want to grab your ass you're not allowed to i know no i know i know i want to kiss you just you're allowed to they're flirting over there what the hell's going on it's like literally leum shy another guy who didn't get a name guard and like three of the girls from the cast like a bunch of people are sitting there and like yeah i do think liam is probably flirting with ariana a bit but i love the fact that he walks over and he's like i don't

really know what i think about that guy immediately charlie sees his opportunity like let me get in his ear real quick press him i mean i would you should press me you press me you you got to press him got to be consistent this is what this is what ari i was talking about you're not consistent you got to be consistent you got to go press him go press him right now i would go go over there and just press him he said press him like five times. Jesus, dude. Get out of his ear. He's going to get,

he's going to walk right over to Liam and punch him in the face. Lose that fight and look very embarrassing. Yeah. And Ariana's not going to be like, oh, wow, you fought my honor. He's going to go, hey,

you fucking psycho, what the hell was that? We've been broken up for a day and you just punch some random guy in the face. Newsflash, Hudson, if a quote, unquote, friend that has an interesting background as this guy

Charlie does, gets in your ear and gives you advice in this situation, don't listen to him. Like, come on, dude. Why are you like, yeah, you know what? You're right. I should press him. No, don't.

He just got caught in a crypto torture house. Don't take advice from the crypto torture guy, allegedly. Not a great move, especially when you're trying to like look good for Ariana again. You're trying to like, you know, show her that you grew up. You know how you don't do that by pressing some stranger because he, talk to her. That seems like a stupid idea and it's coming from a stupid guy. So maybe just maybe, but it is a good indicator of what we can expect from that duo of Charlie and Hudson because I do think it's like Hudson is in the perfect spot for Charlie to manipulate. It's the perfect mark to

be like, oh, I'm going to take all of your money and I'm going to make you do a bunch of stupid shit. this is going to be a fun year for me. Yeah, exactly. Like you said, he looked at that apartment. He started licking his chops. He's like, oh, boy. Oh, boy, that room looks fit for torture, allegedly. But the episode ends with Gia and Ava, kind of squaring off with the podcast drama.

And again, like, super stupid argument. I don't think it's like a dumb thing to watch. It's funny to watch. But it's like, I think this is going to be kind of standard for a lot of the issues we're going to see. like you my your mom unfollowed me it's like nah uh yeah huh shut up liar it's so stupid like i was still enjoying it but it is so so stupid and i love having in the back of my minds like teresa probably did do that shit like she probably followed her gia had a conversation with her said hey i've actually not really friends with eva right now because i think she's a liar

Teresa responds, yeah, I hate liars too. Let me go unfollow her right now. Well, no, she called her a liar because of the unfollow because she said that she lied about the unfollow issues. Who knows? I agree. That's what happened. I guess definitely she said something in passing.

And Teresa's like, oh, fuck her. It'll be. Yeah. Unfollow. Whatever happened. It's still very funny. I still enjoy the hell out of it. Yeah, me too.

But I'm excited. I like this show. Again, like I'm going to have to figure out my note-taking system. for it because it is, I mean, it's a fucking fever dream. This shit is nonstop. Just bo bo bo bo bo bo. Honestly could just end up being similar to our Love Island podcast where we just We go free form.

We actually love going free form to be honest. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. But if it has to be a little less structured, it's going to be okay, guys. Yeah, we'll be all right. We've been doing this long enough, I think, maybe. Or it's going to expose us. We also watch this like two days early. so Steele's looking for questions right now, but don't exist.

Yep. And I just realized that we don't have them because we got readers. Screener. We got a screener. We only ever get one. And then we watch it the night before the show actually appears. So maybe that's why we don't get them. I thought we were doing this.

That's the funny thing is I thought this was going to fall into the Thursday slot because there's nothing on Thursday nights. Lo and behold, we're just going to continue to move forward with nothing on Thursday nights. Because even O.C. feels like, a Tuesday night gap or Wednesday night gap. I don't know what's going on. You're going to be okay, man. O.C.

Yeah. Oh, O.C. is going into the Thursday slot. Actually, I did my math wrong. It's on the nine. Yay. Can't wait for that to come out. Well, I think we'll,

I don't know. We'll probably do this on Friday morning. Like, I swear. There's a little hills. Yeah. California Housewives shows, man. I know. be the death of me.

And from what we've seen from that season already, it's not looking better. It's looking like the same shit, different year. Yeah, my guess is the, uh, the Vicky charm will run off. Like she can only do so much. I'm, I'm happy she's back because maybe it'll help. But I do think that even Vicki Gundelsing can't,

can't save that, that sinking boat. I don't know what's going to happen. The boat is sunk. It's underwater. There's one air pocket left. You know, like when people get trapped in boats for like a month and they find him because there was like one air pocket. That's the OC. I was going to say it's like ocean gate.

I was going to say it's Ocean Gate, but Ocean Gate happened so abruptly that OC has just been sinking forever. So it's more like a glacier that's just kind of melting and sinking at the same time. Okay. I like that. Yeah. Okay. I'll buy that. Yeah. Very slow moving.

So slow. Very slow moving. So anyway. God damn slow Okay Enough Enough depressing O.C. talk. We're excited about next jet.

I'm excited. Shooter's excited. It's going to be a fun show to cover, I think. And yeah, the cast seems like a lot of fun, so I'm excited to see where this goes. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope.

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