Bros & Shows - Fessler is a Messler (RHONJ Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

What's up Bros? We're back with Jersey! In today's episode, Fessler has put herself in the middle of everyone and is having a bit of a rough go. Danielle is getting ready for a Boujie Kidz relaunch and the group is fractured following the altercation between her and Jen Aydin. Teresa continues to play neutral as she maintains that she's friends with both. Fessler tries to defend Jen at Danielles party and then defends John Fuda once again. Rachel Fuda wasn't having it as she storms off upset about the whole thing. Do we understand that Fessler needs to butt out? Yes. Did Rachel overreact at the Boujie event? Also yes. Meanwhile, Jen Aydin is playing the victim card when it comes to her beef with Danielle. Can this group figure out a way to come together? Or are we actually witnessing the fall of Jersey? Time Stamps: Intro: 0-8:15 RHONJ: 8:20 Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join This episode is brought to you by Quince. Spruce up your wardrobe this summer without breaking the bank! Go to Quince.com/bravbros for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Because you can't be bored listening to us. We're getting four episodes out within the next like 72 hours. And then if you are a member, no. four. You're saying three, but it's actually four because House of the Dragon is going to be split into two. That's four, big boy. And if you are a Brov Bros member, you will have five episodes to listen to because this week begins our exclusive rom-com recaps. Our bromance episodes are finally upon us, and we are starting out with arguably one of the better rom-coms ever made. How to Lose a

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I want to lobby for our Real Housewives of Cleveland. Yes, for sure. So I was doing that this weekend and got home yesterday, and I am very tired. But look, I get to go to the beach on Wednesday, so I will be laying on the beach. Little rest recovery. R&R. R&R. Yeah, it's called R&R.

That's where we're going with that. And, yeah, we got a little rom-com action this week. And I've been thinking a lot about the rom-com stuff. I am going to have to incorporate some sort of ratings. Oh, yeah, we need a ratings scale. We have to do a rating scale. We will do the ratings at the end of the episode. So we will go through everything, all of our favorite parts of the rom-com,

the people that showed up the most, the best funny moments, the best loving moments, of course. And then at the end, we will give our unbiased opinion on a rating. What should we call a rating scale? We'll have to figure that out. I'm not feeling creative right now, but I will get a good night's sleep tonight, and I will have a good name for you tomorrow. Yeah, I need to not do it now either because I'll say a stupid pun. and it won't work.

But we're going to be fair with these. We're not just going to give these things like nine and a half out of tens. No. Just because we had a good time. Right. We're going to have to make sure. And look, it's going to be different than other movies. We can't put rom-coms on the same scale as, say, Dune 2.

It's a different scope. It's a different scope. So we're going to have to do everything together and figure it all out. So look forward to that. That's going to be a lot of fun. We're actually going to tease it a little bit. We're going to throw Hitman out there. So if you haven't watched Hitman on Netflix yet with Glenn Powell, go ahead and do that,

because we'll have a little review for you later in the week. But for now, we do need to get into Jersey. Yes, it is Ronejay time. And my gosh, I'm just, I'm fed up. And I know our listeners are probably, like, tired of me saying negative things about Jersey. It's so funny how much we've changed. I know. Now I'm like, whatever, it was, you know, a whole lot happens, but it wasn't terrible.

On the scale of this season, yeah, this was a fine episode. Last week was a fine episode. It's just the recurring tropes. over and over again are so exhausting to me. The fact that everyone falls for the same shit, the fact that Fessler, who I was so big on last year, is apparently

not as cool as I thought she was. That's driving me nuts. She just believes anybody. Anybody says anything to her, and Fessler's like, okay, got it. Sounds good. That doesn't make any sense to me, so that's frustrating to me. I actually paused this episode, midway through to take a breather. True

story. A real breather? Real breather. I told Dev, I was like, I need a sec. I paused it, and I posted that reel of you talking about Jen Aden. Yeah. And I went back and watched the rest. That's the level I've gotten to with this show. Wait a minute. Hold on. You needed a breather. So you went to edit content about the show that you needed the breather from.

Can I tell you why? Why? So Jen Aden was pissing me off on the screen. And I was like, I need a sec. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to clap back. And that was my method was to make a reel. And that's the other thing. She's ruining my night.

I need to go try to ruin hers. She's just taking up real estate in my head, and that sucks for me because I don't like anyone to take up real estate in my head. And it's just watching her spin a narrative. And then everyone's like, no matter what, Teresa, Jen do, you're anti both of them. I'm really not. I don't have a vendetta against anybody personally. I just get really annoyed when you're watching somebody lie quite clearly and spin their

story, change their story from episode to episode. There's no continuity. There's no logic involved. And you know me, and I say it a lot, when I can't apply. logic I get flustered. Yeah. And so I got flustered. You can't apply logic to stupid though. Stupid always trumps logic. Oh, I know. I know that. Yeah. You can't reason with stupid. Like, there's a lot of sayings, a lot of tropes out there, which I try to live by. But unfortunately, again, as you know, you know me, those are the things that really get under my skin. Really grab my gear. Really grinds

my gear. And my gear hadn't been ground in a while, sir. And it's done been ground. And I've done to be do you have good news for you at least somebody did i forget if i saw 13 episodes yep yep a couple episodes left let's not fucking worry about it way ahead of you and then we got to watch a fucking quote unquote reunion of them watching the last scene in separate rooms just fucking bag it already at rails at rails just bag the goddamn show like they can wait i got i do have a question though they're going to be at separate rooms in the same restaurant apparently yeah that that's isn't that the restaurant that the whole melt down happens at the end of the season, too?

Allegedly, uh, here's the thing. This is all a fucking scam, isn't it? Totally for Rails. Rails paid a lot of money for this. No. What I would love to happen, though, is if you have two parties in the same restaurant, and they're watching the same clip, and they get heated again, and then you just have a battle where they meet in the middle of the restaurant, and Rails has to close down for

a while because they have to repair. Everybody's armed with one plastic cup. You get. That's all you get. That's all you get, or you get one table flip. in somebody's general direction. One or the other, you'll get both. Tomatoes.

Ooh, I'm down for that. Tomatoes, yeah. Tomato fight? That could actually make everything better. Why do people not do that anymore? Like, what happened to a good old-fashioned boo fest and throw in tomatoes? When do you think the tomatoes went out of style? It's probably an old, old, old thing.

I think it's like back in the Shakespeare days. Literally, that's the... They were still rotten food on stage. I know that, but I would love to know, oh, wow. Yeah. That just clicked. Yep, there you go. That's why I was.

It's called Rotten Tomatoes. Holy shit. I feel better now. Thank you for that. You're welcome. Did you know that? I just pieced it together, but I didn't want to make a video about it. Don't sit there and act like it.

Well, I mean, I found out five seconds before you did. Give you credit. You unearthed it. I knew first. Whoa. My head just exploded. And now I'm in a better mood. There you got.

How it works. All right. And we're back, baby. Knock those cobwebs off, you know. Yeah, shake it off. Let's talk about some fucking Roeje. I actually had something to say involving that earlier, but I forget. Oh, well, you'll think of it.

Anyway, let's get to some Rone J. And we start out with Teresa and Louie and G is headed to Michigan. And they're just, the whole episode is leading up to, I don't even know, this boogie kids party, but everyone is just recapping their take from the fight the other night. I guess it was the night before. But Teresa conveniently missed the whole thing. However, I'll give her credit. they do have a slow motion of her actually turning as Jen made contact.

So if she turned around to see the cup, I don't know when she caught on to what was going on. I do actually appreciate that she is trying her best to stay neutral. Surprising, but I appreciate that she's not just like Team Jen Aden right out of the gate. Yeah, no, she is trying to stay neutral. And it did escalate, and we talked about this last week, it escalated very strangely, where you can understand where the rest of us were why. watching, we're like, all right, nothing's going to happen. Like, yes, Danielle's in Jen's face, but Jen's kind of de-escalating a little bit. Then Danielle started to de-escalate a little bit.

And then Teresa turned, and then Jen shoved her. Right. And I was like, wait a minute, why? The shove seemed misplaced. Like, Jen didn't get the reaction that she wanted from Danielle, and she needed to escalate it. So then she could be in this position this week where everybody's like, how are you? Are you okay? Yeah.

Oh, my God. And she's still, it's funny because there's people out there that are, and I did it last week. I was like, look, at least she didn't make a huge deal. about it and actually she's the victim. I've changed my stance on it this week because she loves the attention. We know she loves that attention. So people coming over to her house saying, are you okay first and foremost? Everything all right here. Like, no, she wants that. She loves that. She loves the spotlight and she loves the fact that people are catering to her now. But as people pointed out last week and, you know, the comments were saying, because I posted two

videos with two takes on the situation. Like, you said something totally different earlier. It's like, no, I didn't. This is just going more in depth into this. My point was, you can see where both of them got escalated during this whole thing. People pointed out that Jen was actually approaching her. She passed the table. If you look at the video, if you want to do some deep sleuthing, the bottom line here is, as we said last week, you put hands on somebody, you're going to catch hands. Do I get why she got pushed for being in her face? Yes. So that's where we're at. But anyway, we move on from there and we get to Marge and Joe with some sadder news, hopefully not sad news, but some alarming news. We find out that Joe got his results back. We need to

talk, I guess, moving on from there, we get to Danielle and Nate, and we're having a boogie kids launch, re-launch party because she's got the new collection. This is on the heels of Fashion Week, and they got a new website. They got a lot of stuff to reintroduce boogey kids to the world, and everybody's invited. Obviously, Jen's not. There's not a lot from this episode that we're going to have to like nitpick and break down. So there are some moments I want to stop and just ask you some questions and get to the bottom of this. It's my favorite part of this podcast.

I know. So let's talk with Jen and Danielle. Why has Jen set her sights on Danielle to see? What is it about her? Because for me, I don't understand why she cares so much about the Lena situation. She's not tight with Lena. I don't know why she's trying to use the Marissa thing. she's not tight with Marissa.

I don't understand why she has this vendetta against Danielle. We talked about her briefly last week and the week prior. Is she jealous of Danielle? Does she feel threatened? Even if that's the case, what's your take on why she feels the need to keep going after Danielle? It's got to be some sort of combination of the way that Teresa feels about Danielle because we've heard Teresa talk about Danielle a couple different times

and she always says that she loves Danielle, Whereas we see her talk about somebody like Jackie, very clearly using Jackie, very clearly using other people. So this is the first time that we're really seeing Teresa open up to somebody else in the group. Okay. That isn't Jen. That's one of them. The other thing I think ties back to Ireland last year where Jen told Danielle about Melissa's infidelity or potential infidelity or whatever the rumor was. And then it led back to Jen eventually.

So I think that that's part of it, that Danielle didn't like take. a bullet for the team like this is team teresa you need to do this instead it came back on me and then it gets exacerbated at that bougie brunch which by the way do we have to do something bougie every fucking episode at this point you know why because it's the only thing going there is literally nothing else no one else like hosting any events no no one else has anything going on that's what this show's come to so yeah we're that's the other part you wouldn't be so frustrated at bougie kids popping up every week if there was other things going on alongside of it. There's literally nothing. We're talking about

Pauline and Dolores' business for two seconds. Yeah, but like usually there's still other things like people are hosting charity events or like Teresa had her party last week, but we still had something else go on. So I don't know, whatever. So I do think that it got to a point

where it was reintroduced at the Bougy brunch where Danielle asked in front of everybody including Melissa, including Marge. Hey, or well, March wasn't there, but March will find out. Hey, did you throw me under the bus? here, where Teresa is going to be okay because she doesn't care. Jen does care. So maybe it's that.

I have no idea. Or Jen's just trying to make a name for herself and she went for the low-hanging fruit that's Danielle because she knows that she can get her riled up and get some sort of reaction out of her and then create a storyline for herself that isn't Bill cheating on her. That's the only storyline that she ever really gets. So, yeah, I don't know. I think that it's probably all-encompassing. But what I like about Danielle and what I think she's done a good job of this season, this is

what I expected from her last season to be able to step up, carry herself, have a good, like a good showing. Is it the best showing ever? No, but what I like about Danielle is that she doesn't back down from shit this season. Like she is approaching people. She kind of hung in the background for the first four or five episodes. Since she's been challenged, she's not afraid of a fight, literally now, as we know. But her responding with this, when she brings up the fact that, you know, Laura was supposed to be invited, which you know that Jen Aiden invited Laura because she knew it would cause a bunch of shit there and she thought that was funny, which is also nuts because that charity event wasn't on camera. She said, no, what are you nuts? I'm not inviting Laura.

She caused this whole thing. Her saying that this is retaliation because when she found out I wouldn't play dirty, now she's attacking my character. When she knows I'm not going to get in bed with her, now she's going to come after me. And I think that's exactly what's happening. I'm glad that Danielle called it out. I'm glad that she points it out. And that's kind of my point with her is whether you love her or hate her. Same thing with Fuda.

Whether you love her or hate her or John Fuda or whatever your qualms are with this season, tell me what's driving the season. Tell me who's driving the season. And this is why it's not a good season. But the driving factors this season are Jen Aiden, Rachel and John Fuda, and Danielle. No one else is doing shit. Yeah. Literally, Fessler's a mess.

Marge is doing the same shit Marge is always done. Teresa is checked out. Melissa is checked out. There is no show. You have the newbies, which we thought they were going to launch this into a new era.

Instead, they're just, they're getting garbage time points. Yeah, and I think Danielle feels a little more comfortable this year versus last year, because last year she was alone. Yes. She sort of touched in with Michelle,

Jesus, who the fuck is Michelle? She sort of touched him with Melissa. She sort of touched in on the Teresa. to Jen's side. She got burnt on that side. She was alone after dropping the whole thing about Melissa potentially cheating on Joe, and she

was completely just left solo by the end of the season, wondering what the hell she has to do. This year at least, and look, it's really for their own narratives, it's for their own storylines, but when Danielle gets in a fight with somebody like Jen, that's a big Teresa person. So yeah, of course

Rachel Fuda and Melissa and whoever else are going to show up and be like, oh yeah, no, we're not going to deal with this we've got you it's like you don't really have her as a friend you have her because she's going against your enemy yeah so that's really all it is and maybe daniel is just taking that because it's the only thing that she can get at this point but she's just taking that as quote unquote friendship and she's allowed to keep going by proxy friend by proxy yeah and maybe she thinks she's close to melissa so she feels like she has some sort of safe background if she is going after jem because she still is a friend of melissa but she's not going after

Jen, Jen went after her. She's not. Jen went after her. But she's standing up for herself, which she did last year, but then she was left alone. This year, other people are coming over to say, are you okay? Gotcha. Which is at least a little different, and look, they're using it for their own thing. Yeah, and she's definitely using this season just to capitalize with boozy

kids, and hey, do your thing. The season's going to tank, at least get your money out of it. But we move on to Polly and Dolores, and they are planning the business out. We still don't know much about it. They have an office. They have computers. And, it's an electrical company.

Uh-huh. I don't know if it's corporate. I don't know if it's commercial. I don't know if it's residential. Yeah. All encompassing. Uh-huh. Electricity.

That's it. There's an IT people. They have IT people and electricity. Uh-huh. Computers. They're killing it. Bulbs. Lots of bulbs.

Maybe some LEDs. Calling in. Phone lines. Mm-hmm. We could do this for a while. We should probably move on. We should stop. We should definitely stop.

We just listed things that it could be. at least we're getting more out of us than we get there. We don't know what's going on. No idea. But food of face times, and she's at an arthritis support group that she started because she's been dealing with arthritis in her life, juvenile arthritis. So it's actually, it was interesting to me and kind of cool to put a face to everything. Like there's younger people there that also have to deal with us every day because it's

not something you hear about a lot. Yeah. So I did like that they took that time to show support for that and for a cause. So we like to shout that out anytime we see it. So I did like that part. But as they're discussing, of course, of course there was a blog leak the day after the shit went down with Danielle because it happened. This, you always like to say, we don't know about the content creators. This is a exact moment where Jen Aiden reached out to probably three that I can list off the top of my head.

And they put it out there the next day, which is just nuts. Which also is probably why she wanted Laura to go to that charity. events that she could then say, all of this happens, let me tell my content creators. 100%. She just creates all this stuff to get some more buzz about Jen Aden. But still nobody's talking about her. The only thing that she's missing on, which

she could learn from Teresa, you want Aiden Plastics out there. Wear some Aden Plastic shirts. Oh, you do need... I love, by the way, that you continue to call it Aden Plastics as though it's a plastic company. It makes me... You say it when we're not recording. You just call it Aiden Plastics.

I'm going to shit. The hell do I do you? care. But anyway, you get Joe and Melissa at Nick's wedding and not much happened here. I will say Joe's sentiment when he was, you know, Father Joe speaking to the wedding party. I thought it was actually very sweet. That was a nice moment. Ruined very shortly after with this confessional where he once again does the whole thing where my inherited family is best. They are the best inherited family i don't need my real family because this family's the shit do they all do it they all do we pointed out every time to teresa and louis do the same thing they walk into a room look at my beautiful family melissa did it when she walked into the back room at the wedding check out my beautiful

family i thought that this was just an opportunity for everybody on screen to say how much joe loves his family and how much they love him yep that's all it is yeah i don't want to take away from nick and was it mike and mike's way it was mike yeah nick and i don't want to takeaway from their wedding. That's a beautiful thing. Congrats, guys. Big congrats from the bros. You know that he's going to use his speech up there to further some sort of narrative about Teresa.

Or at least very shortly after with his confession. Yeah. Yeah. Which it's, I'm sick of that. This is where I told you. I'm starting to get frustrated. I think I can pinpoint. Fuck. You want to see where I got frustrated? Up, there it is. Yeah. You can physically see it. Your pen stopped working too. My pen stopped working. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a

comedy of errors. Snowball. snowball. If you were here right now, I'll try to show it to the YouTube thing. There's a dent in my journal because my pen stopped working. I did one of those moves. You know, you slam it and just creep it. So this is where I took my breather. But anyhow, moving on, we get to Jen, Teresa, and Fessler, and the fight recap. And Jen Aden was initially in shock. She was shocked and appalled by this whole thing. What actually happened is she got punked and was embarrassed? That's the blood coming out of her face that Fessler referred to when she stood there kind of

stunned. That's because you didn't expect that shit to happen. That's what happens when you get punged. You're like, oh my God, wait, hold on. I got to regroup. That's embarrassing. Take a breath. That's what happened. It wasn't that she was shocked that she was just the... We've got to be careful about our terminology here. There's clocking, there's punching, there's

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obviously, Jen was lying and, like, making things up, which I don't know how you're watching that and not realizing that she's just twisting all of Danielle's words to make her look terrible. And if you're going to accuse somebody of stealing from charity, that's insane, at least to have a backbone to defend yourself afterwards and say, I did say that.

Yeah, like she didn't say stealing from. But she said that you paid yourself for your time, and she keeps going on about this, which we have not seen Danielle say or anybody else say. So I don't think that that happened. If she had just, you know, turned a little bit and, like, put her arm up to push away from Danielle while she walked away and then Danielle did it, then, Danielle's way in the wrong. Because Jen is just trying to get out of there, trying to get her personal space back, whatever you want to say. But we talked about it.

Everything was kind of dying down. And then Jen shoved. That was a shove. That was a shove. Oh, yeah. Terminology. Terminology. That was a shove.

She shoved. You got what you got. that's what happened yeah that's exactly was one a little higher than the other yeah for sure but you still did once you initiate contact it's fair game that's what other people kept saying yeah that's not the same thing to him if you touch me i'm gonna fuck you up now period there's no in between there what happens after you lay hands on somebody is your own doing anywho back to jen teresa and fessler and she like as you said as you said she tries to talk about the charity shit again. She was the extension lady again, and none of this was an issue prior. But the thing

that drove me nuts about this scene is every single little story she's webbing together, Fessler's like, oh my God, she would do that? It's like, no, dude, use your head. Yeah, she's not asking real questions. She's immediately agreeing with Jen. She didn't, not one time when she's like, wait, what? She's like, oh my God, she's a horrible person. It's like, dude, no. Yeah. So that really disappointed me and then she has the balls to say I've been trying so hard to give her the benefit of the doubt

when when? When? When? Oh, that was it? That's the end. That's a good question. I just need to know. I haven't seen it. I haven't either. This is where I get flustered. It's not benefit of the doubt when you're the one bringing up issues. You keep bringing up issues. If somebody else was talking about it,

if you were Fessler in this situation, Fessler could give Danielle the benefit of the doubt. She's not doing it. You can't give someone the benefit of the doubt by asking them questions like that and accusing them of doing stuff. Right. That's the opposite of benefit of the doubt.

That's lack of doubt. It's accusatory, yeah. Yeah. Right? Guys? I think we nailed it. Guys? Right?

Yeah, our audience is smart. They understand where we're coming from. Or we've dumbed you guys down to understand when we ramble. Yeah. That's a scarier thought. That's a good one. Oh, boy.

Thanks for listening. but anyway Jen's disappointed with Teresa because she said Teresa is playing neutral and down the middle this is one interesting thing that could come from this

because I was actually surprised that she kept going I thought that she would be a little more you know I'm a little bummed out that Teresa's siding or kind of staying Switzerland here but it's okay

no she's going with the, I thought she'd be more of a loyal friend than that. I'm like, ooh, are we seeing a fracture here? Because that would be wonderful. That would be lovely. It would. We could see a bit of a fracture there because Teresa's maintaining this. I didn't see it. I turned my head

for a second. It escalated and I was shocked, but I'm still not really sure what happened. It's weird to watch Fessler sit there who is a quote-unquote neutral party who's able to float between the two groups of friends. This time you're not. This time you're taking the role of standing up for

Jen for no reason and just blindly listening to everything that she's saying. Teresa making this a very, well, let's see what Danielle has to say, situation. Shocking. Shocking to everyone. I'm glad. And I expected the same thing that you did from Jen to maybe take a step back and be like, whoa, maybe we stop talking about this. I don't want to piss Teresa off.

So I'm going to stop talking about this. Instead, Jen just kept going. She's drunk with power right now. She feels like she's the victim, and she's going to keep going because people keep talking to her about it. So she feels like the main character, and she is not and never has been the main character, and never will be the main character. It just cracks me out because the scene ends with her bringing back a moment when they were screaming in the back of Fessler's house. And she was like, remember when she said that you would never love her, love me more than her?

Well, look at it now. I'm like, dude, you are a grown-ass woman. Are you kidding me right now? Yeah. This is how much she needs, like, that seal of approval, the validation. like you want her to flat out say I love you more than Marge and you will not be happy

until those exact words come out of the mouth I told you tell me you love me tell me you love me Bill can you put it in writing oh god moving on to Marge and we're getting Jackie's book in the mail and she expects a handwritten letter

this is where Marge just fishes for shit she's fishing for reasons here she doesn't even she can't even send me a handwritten handwritten note this is just a generalized note she sent to everybody with the book. This is ridiculous. This sentence right here, I would love if one of our listeners, if you are a Rone J, like, diehard, if you could go back and find out how many times Marge has uttered the words,

blank showed me her true colors. Because here she says it again, Jackie, she just showed me her true colors. If you come to find out that everybody in your life at some point shows you their true colors and they are not to your liking, maybe it's time to. to look in the mirror and understand the common denominator. Maybe. I, look, I don't know why the fuck Jackie sent Marge the book. I would imagine.

What are you going to send Marge the book at this point? Come on. I would imagine there was a list of after like the exclusive ones. There's probably like a pre list of like, all right, let's take her off the list. But Jackie's also vying for a spot. She wants to be relevant. And I think in her head, if that was a move, I really don't think it was. I think that was an oversight where it's like, yeah, the list has already made, send it out.

I think, honestly, if that was a move, that was her being like, you had nothing on me, Marge, here's the book. I guess. Yeah, I would have taken her off the list. I'm like, no, she's still not getting the damn book. I don't know. But we get some alarming news and to take it to a more serious note, as we talked about last week, Joe's PSA levels were up,

which is indicative of prostate cancer. So my first major issue, we need to talk to doctors. and tell them to call their patients. Love of God, please. Stop making your patients wait on cancer diagnosis. That's crazy to me. That's unacceptable that they have to be calling. This happened with Jesse Solomon and Summerhouse.

You don't need to force your patients to call you and then talk to a guy that doesn't know what's going on. I don't know if he's a nurse or a nurse practitioner, but this dude answers the phone. He's like, I don't know what to tell you. Just reading what it's in front of me. Yeah, can I talk to the doctor? Oh, I guess.

This is a very serious thing, and I'm sick of patience having to call and find out when you have the results. Yeah. Call your patience. Yep. It's frustrating. But it comes back as abnormal. His levels are up from 20 to 70. There is a object.

There's something on his, or no. They want to do a scan with an MRI to see if there is something there. So the good news here, the silver lining of all of this is if it does, in fact, turn. out to be prostate cancer. They caught it extremely early, which means it's more than likely treatable, which means Joe should be okay. Fingers crossed that it's not a cancer diagnosis, but I'm sure we'll find out next week or later on in the season, but pairs up for Joe Benigno. But we move on. Then we get to Danielle, and this is the boozy kids event. But moving on, we get to Danielle, and it's the boozy kids event, and her dad was going to come.

He got sick, potentially COVID. I don't know. if I buy it. I don't know if I buy it, but I do like Danielle's response to it. I'm just going to keep plugging along and plugging along and inviting him to things and trying to see him. That's, I feel like, the appropriate response. Not getting in the middle of people's families, but yeah. Yeah, and I think that's the appropriate response. And on top of that, I think the rest of the cast could take a note there where it's like, hey, if one olive branch doesn't work, maybe don't burn the whole house down. Yeah. Maybe. It's way too late. of that.

Yeah. Oh, obviously. I'm talking about years prior. Yeah. Like one slight against your family. Maybe it's not reason to tear apart a whole family. Maybe, yeah.

Maybe. Perhaps. Maybe we'll have our own falling out someday and we can figure out how to come back together. We can. We always will. I'm going to burn something down, though. Yeah. But, you know, don't touch my garden, though.

No. Sorry, I was looking at it. Nothing of yours. Oh. Burn something down. Okay. Yeah. We can burn it down together and that's how we come back together.

Okay. Yeah. Arson. Arson. boys. The arson pros. We're taking some left turns here. But anywho, Fuda arrives and Fessler arrives. And once again, we're recapping the night prior with the fight or the fight that happened. And Fuda points out that the narrative online's ridiculous. They're talking about glasses being broken and thrown at people, which is not what happened. But Danielle goes in the explanation once again of, look, she was accusing me of stealing from a charity. She was challenging my character. She's challenging my moral compass, pretty much everything about me. which is disgusting behavior, which I agree with, if somebody's going to try to tear down your character because they simply don't like you or are threatened by you

or are jealous of your friendship with their friend, that's insane. That's not a good move by any means, so I get why she's upset. Fuda points out the multiple accusations that she's put against her, which is now Marissa, Lena, stealing from a charity, the step and repeat, and if you put those on paper,

once again, we talked about this earlier, why the fuck does Jen care it makes no sense none of these things involve her so I don't know why she's so open arms he's just trying to find out Danielle's true colors oh she's pulling a marge yeah she wants to get down to the yeah these sides aren't so different they're not if you want to break that that's actually really truly that's way more interesting than most of these episodes I agree let's talk about how both sides are the same they're literally the same people this whole cast is the same and they just don't know it yeah but there we fixed it the end yeah bye bye see it rails yep see it rails no but

Fessler standing there and she points out and this is my big issue with Fessler this season one is the you know she's quick to believe anybody about anything but two and this is going to play later when she gets involved with the John Fuda and Gia thing why does she have to be in everything I have no idea because we saw a Fessler that was very different last year and even earlier this year where she wasn't doing this weird shit where she wasn't defending people to other people she was just doing the oh you know that like I'm friends with Marge I'm going to walk away she's actively defending people now for no reason seemingly on both sides we haven't on both

sides yeah you're mixing it up with everyone I don't think it's even her trying to get more screen time which usually we would accuse people of doing because she is genuinely getting flustered. Fessler's getting flustered. Maybe she is trying to get more screen time, but she doesn't know how to handle it. That's what I think. So here's my theory.

Okay. And we don't like to bring producers in, but my theory is maybe she wants a full-time role because, look, she did get the housewives makeover in between seasons. She has been complaining about not being as rich as everybody else.

Yes, she has. Every episode. So my thing with her is maybe they said, look, if you want to be a full-time housewife, you've got to mix it up more. You got to get involved. You can't keep playing neutral. You can't keep backing down.

Maybe this is her way to do it. But the issue with being neutral and wanting to get involved is this is what happens. Now both sides are like, dude, fuck you. And you also are believing everything that everybody's saying. That's what Danielle did last year. And it did not work out. She ended up on an island. And it was not a fun time.

So Fessler, it's a dangerous game that she's playing. And she jumps in here and says, you know that you were both a part of what happened. Which, to a certain extent, yeah. Sure. Fine. agree with that but my whole thing there is why now why do you feel the need to throw that out there at her event mind you and knowing that she's not going to take it well and she says to her dude it sounds like you have jens back she's like oh i do have jens back it's like well don't say

that right now if you want to be friends with everybody like you're poking the bear in weird spots this doesn't make sense i don't get your tactics no it doesn't really make any sense at all. I don't understand why she has Jen's back. She's the very much the atypical, a friend to everybody is a friend to no one. Except now she, for whatever reason, has circled Jen as a trustworthy friend that she wants to have her back? This has made me question everything about that. Yeah, it really has too. And she cannot handle this because as soon as people go back at her, she does not know what to do. She gets very flustered and then runs away. And that's what she continues to do. So going to Danielle's event accusing her of escalating the situation saying that you have Jen's back who's not invited

Jen is not here and what worst of all for me is you just sat down with Jen and Teresa yeah you should have Teresa pegged as I need to be friends with her right if I want to stay on this show you just watch Teresa turn a blind eye and say you know what I'm staying neutral in this because I want you guys to hash it out and figure it out get on her side and say hey Danielle look I know that that was fucking crazy. I don't know if Jen meant all those things that she was saying, but maybe you guys do need to sit down if you can. Whatever,

that's what Teresa would want to do. Teresa's here right now. You can just jump on her side because you know she's going to turn a blind eye to it. You know she's going to talk about like, yeah, you were both in the wrong, but I don't really know, maybe you guys just need to hash it out. Why are you taking Jen's side when she's not there?

You have no backup. Teresa's not going to back you up, and that's who you need to back you up. Nobody there's going to back. So it was really a weird move. It makes no sense. It was a shit move, actually. It was a bad move.

hold on to Teresa's pocket and let her speak and just nod your head and say, Mm-hmm. But anyway, Teresa arrives, and this is a bad move by Fuda. When the big bad wolf comes a knock and don't you run away. You want to talk all that shit. You've got to stand up to her. Teresa walks in and immediately, Futa bounces. And Teresa still, I appreciate this move from Teresa.

And I'll give her credit when credits do. Like, she's still not jumping to either side. She's saying, I don't know Jen the makeup stories. I don't think she's evil. This is where she falters for me. If you want to talk about evil, let's talk about Marge. It's like, stop it. You're so obsessed with Marge.

Like, why is this about Marge? This is about Jen and Danielle. Not about March. But regardless, Melissa then shows up and we get a side conversation between Fessler and Teresa and Fessler says that Daniel's mad at her. And we get a conversation between Fessler and Teresa. Fessler said that Danielle's now mad at me, and she tries to use the trope of, look, everyone says awful, terrible things about everybody.

Show me when Danielle's done that, honestly, honestly, especially about Jen Aden. Up until obviously the last week or so, they got in a physical altercation, so things have been said since. Show me a point last season or this season when she has been on that train of just saying horrible, hurtful things, because I don't remember that. She doesn't do it. She only does it if you go after her. her or her family or one of her friends or whatever you might be doing so if you're talking about

her family issues where she doesn't talk to her brother yeah she's going to get upset about that but she's not doing what jenn does which is for some reason i don't like this person and i'm going to talk shit about them right and i'm going to do it under the guise of aren't my impersonation is really funny guys but really i'm just being really hurtful and mean yeah and you can point to a lot of people in the show that do that marge does that fooda does that teresa does that both sides of the street. Melissa, Danielle, would, I would argue, is the one that does not do that. It has not up until this point.

Yeah, so I don't understand, too, why you would go after someone whose emotions are still running really high. I mean, what is this, a week later, maybe? Not even. Not even, a couple of days. Why would you go over and say, yeah, I do have Jen's back? I don't know. And then not expect to catch some heat for it. No clue. Like, what do you

think that, we've seen you do this? You think that you can just play Switzerland and be the person that people talk to and get information from. Every time Fessler has done that this year, she gets herself in hot water. Yep. Stop doing it. Well, you see... Or at least don't complain about it when something happens to you. That's my

point. I was going to say, you see it finally boil over in this episode. And before we get there, Gia jumps into the mix and asks Fessler about the cocaine thing that John Fudas said the other day. Who do you think... I want to ask you, who do you think the leak was? Who told Teresa? About John saying it? John said

that. It's all dudes out there. It was Fessler's husband. Fessler's husband said it to Fessler. Yeah, that was the lie. All right. That was where we got the connection from. And then Fessler was like, why am I involved? Because your fucking husband can't shut up. You blame him. But look, we can all agree here that while the accusation, it was not accusatory.

Like John Fuda wasn't saying that. He was bringing up to, you know, draw comparisons. However, he should never have done that. No. And also the edit was not true. No. The way they edited it for this episode did not match up to how it was said at the party. He brought up specifically Jackie talking about Gia, which makes Bravo play that clip, which again, now Gia's 21, 22 years old.

She's a lawyer. Do you think that she wants people to talk about that clip? And it wasn't even, for those of us who remember three years ago when Jackie threw that out there, Jackie wasn't even accusing Gia of doing Coke. She was saying it's like if somebody did that, which is, again, really fucking dumb and awful. But why would Gia want that to keep coming up? So yes, of course, if it comes back to her. She's going to stand up and say, why are people talking about me still? Why are we still talking about this?

I'm an adult and I have a profession now. I can't keep dealing with this shit. And we agree, 100%. Like, that was bullshit that he brought it up. This is where Fessler does herself no favor. She jumps in to defend John. She takes it upon herself to uphold the Fuda honor. When Fuda has said, don't get involved.

Just stay out of it. So this is Fessler's biggest issue of trying to play both sides, is that she wants to play both sides. She's trying to jump in. Just sit back. let them hash it out i don't but the flip side of that i will say knowing fooda or watching fooda this season especially if she watches that clip back and fessler doesn't say anything bet me she's like you didn't defend me like it was a lose lose for it really that's where you

this is the one moment where i'm like all right fessler walk away just remove yourself from the situation you're not going to win this battle no matter what but at the very least just stop getting involved in everyone's shit you're not involved so stay out of it but i don't also didn't really care for the way that fooda went about that no like what do you do like you're huffing and puffing and running away like i do agree with fessler that you are a big baby and you just ran away yeah but like what's the big deal your husband did say that you can at least go defend your husband you don't have to go start screaming and then run away like cause a huge scene at a child's party that was crazy and she goes you're so obsessed with me it's like no she's not no and you implying

that she is makes me think that your ego is much more inflated than it needs to be. I don't think anybody's obsessed with you. I love the layers of I don't know if you've been on Twitter but the layer of people defending, usually like the Teresa side

is spinning this into wow, isn't Fuda going to feel really stupid when she watches this episode and sees that Fessler was just trying to defend her? No, she was defending her. She knows that. She knows that. She just doesn't want you to talk Like, that's really funny.

But you also have the other side saying, yeah, Rachel, go off on Fesler. Like, how dare she? And she's already got Jen's back. She needs to have your back too. She was having her back. So everybody's stupid is how this works. It's a big circle venn diagram and everybody in the middle is just stupid. It's not, I'm Teresa, I'm Marge.

It's, I'm stupid. Yeah, I agree. And we got a one-star review because we called people idiots last week. Oh, we stand firm. Oh, no. We stand firm, as Shooter just said, because when you throw logic out the window and try to defend indefensible behavior with bad arguments, that's stupid. I'm not saying that you as a person aren't dumb. I'm saying that was a dumb argument.

In that moment, you are an idiot. Shooter. I might be saying you're stupid, yeah. Me, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe it's a dumb moment. But, no, we're not going to fall back on that. We stand firm. Anywho. This episode is brought to you by Mewew.

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You need to just shush for a little while. You're not doing yourself any favors. Melissa starts to get riled up now, and she's like, why are you bringing it up to a child? Now she's throwing daggers at Gia, which isn't going to turn out well. Like Melissa's saying Gia as a child is so dumb. She's 22. And you're no longer her.

aunt for all intents of purposes. So stop looking at her like she's your niece. She's not. She's 22 years old. She's an adult. She's choosing to be here. And she's making the right move by saying complete people stop talking about me. Yeah. Especially in that moment because that looks terrible for me. Right. We get circulated. We have to talk about this. And I'm going to be a lawyer. Leave me the fuck alone. Why are we doing this still? We've even mentioned in moments previously this season when it's like, why is you getting involved in this moment right now? Yeah. I had zero problem. Yeah. Like stop talking about me doing cocaine. which now we're doing it,

but we're trying to point out that everyone else needs to stop. But you, we're on your side. Yeah. Knock it off, everybody. Okay? You cut it out.

But you see the wheels turning and the cogs are getting jammed and Fessler's just like steam's coming out of her ear. She doesn't know what to handle this because now she's on an island. Yep. This is what happens. You can be Switzerland. You can play neutral, but you cannot get involved with every discussion. Look at Teresa right now, being neutral.

She's saying, I don't want to pick a side. I don't want to pick a side. No matter what evidence she's given, she says, I don't want to pick a side, fuck March. That's her move. Honestly, that might be my side. It's okay. It's really my side.

It's fine. But the last thing you need to do is keep interjecting, because this is what happens. Now you're solo, Dolo, and you're upset, and you don't have anybody to turn to, and you're just standing there at a kid's party, fuming, and that's always a bad look. Pretty much.

Let's get to some questions. First up here from Daria underscore PNG. Is Jen Fessler a good judge of character? No. She's defending Jen. Yeah, now, no. No. Fessler, I thought, this is why I was so flustered.

I thought she was. I thought I knew her. And this episode, this season has completely thrown me off. No, I don't think she is. Yeah. From Amber S. 1503, has there been a single episode this season that Rachel hasn't pouted and stormed off? Pretty much every interaction that she gets in. The whole, the weird Fessler thing down the shore.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. That's a good point. Astute observation, 1504 or five, nineer. Nineer? Nineer?

Two, three. Keep going. Just ask a question. Uh, from Christy A. Randle, Christy A. Crandall, sure. There's no way. There's no way you got there right. Maybe. Uh, does Gia have any friends her own age?

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think, look, we've said it before. Like, there's times where she gets involved. Like, what are you doing? This, yeah. There's a lot of questions about Gia. Why is thirsty Gia always around?

She grew up on this show. I mean, we've, never. It's not even nepotism for a show like this. It's pretty much just... She has her own show coming up. That's nepotism. That's nepotism. That whole show is nepotism.

Oh, yeah. Are we going to have to cover that? Marks, what do you think? No. What if it's good? Fuck. What if it's a good show? Well, I don't have to do this.

The Valley has ruined us. Well, we can't... Look, I will not be the podcast or the creators that are going to say, fuck this show out of the gate, because we want new content, right? We want good shows coming out. There's been a lot of flops. Flops. So look, if they can put together a decent show with a younger cast, I'm for it.

I'm not rooting against that show. This is actually a pretty good point. From Air Pick 33, am I the only one that wants a new intro for this show? They've been using the same group shop for five years. Oh. They did add, like, Danielle and Fuda in there. Maybe that's a cast decision.

Maybe they're like, we like this one, keep using it. Could be. Maybe they just have. I'll have to keep an eye on that one. Maybe they've just given up like the rest of the cast has. They don't give a shit anymore. That's why we have this shit. I don't know, though.

The way that they're drumming up more interest in this watch party. Stop it. Watch party? Yeah, but like this information is coming from somewhere, and Bravo's got to be the one releasing it. This is telling me that there's still going to be another season next year and they're not going to make any changes. Oh, I disagree.

It's too volatile. Everybody's pissed at each other. We can't have them sit down in the same room together. We can have them sit down. two rooms next to each other. No, I don't think that they, if they reboot this, it's going, or if they don't do something, it's going

to be a disaster. I actually, I saw something on Twitter that I'll use this question to kind of go into. From Sever and Dozo, probably got that one wrong too. Fessler's doing a lot, but why was Rachel Food is so angry that she was

defending John? Everybody, obviously, you know which side it's coming from, but they're saying they don't want anyone else talking about John because every time that it which is ironic because this is what happened to Gia but every time that we talk about John we have to bring up his drug charges people are saying that Rachel's getting annoyed at this because she doesn't want it to keep talking about it because it's going to uncover more information and there's hidden stuff out there about John somewhere I don't think there's hidden stuff out

there I think that yeah that's part of it is where it's like let's stop talking about it so it stops coming up I think another part of it is just simply I'm going to be reactionary to this every single time because I'm mad and I'm going to storm off now because this is my thing. I don't get it though because you can't have it both ways. You can't assuming that this is what happened, you can't sit down with producers and say,

we're going to take on a bigger role this year and have us sit down with Teresa and Louis and John and have John hold court with the whole conversation. And then when people are bringing him up two episodes later, you freak out about it? Agreed. I agree. You can't have it both ways. he can't be a housewife and then not be talked about.

Dems his facts. He can't sit outside and hold court with the boys and have a huge pivotal moment of the season talking about what happened and then not be talked about two episodes ago. That's a good point. Stupid. Kind of stupid.

But yeah, honestly, every other question is pretty much just what the fuck is Fessler doing, which we don't know. It's been wild to watch, honestly. But look, there's still like three, four episodes left of this bad boy, so hopefully they are able

to put something together here maybe that watch party will somehow be electric i think it's going to be horrible but hey like that i'm not doing it we're going to watch it we are going to watch it i'm not going to keep bitching about it don't forget what we go to an italian restaurant watch up that would make me happier okay or i you know what poppy wants to have uh the green pasta from lucca which is pesto pasta maybe i'll do that maybe i'll because i got pesto basil growing in the garden i'll make us all Pesto Pasta here and we can watch it together in separate rooms. I'll watch it here. You watch it in the front room?

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