Bros & Shows - Flavor Flav, Latoya Jackson, Balmain and Dennis (RHOA Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

What's up Bros? In this episode of RHOA, we start to see the issues begin between Kenya and Brit. Kelli sits down with Porsha to clear the air, and we really enjoyed that neither lady backed down in this scene but they were able to find a way forward and smooth things over regardless. Drew sidesteps questions about Dennis and the rest of the ladies are still wondering why she didn't talk to Porsha before she began working with Dennis. Porsha's Mom, Ms. Diane, warns Porsha about Shamea and thinks she may need to watch her back when it comes to her... At the Balmain event, things get heated when Angela tries to chat with Shamea. In an attempt to bury the hatchet, it quickly turns into a back and forth that ends up with nose jokes and Public Enemy references. We're enjoying the start to the season and we are hoping the ladies of RHOA can keep it up! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only. Skiggity McGigdy. What's up, dude? That was so much. That's new. Oh, man. Oh, my God. I found a new one.

So good. I felt good coming out. Yeah. Good for me. Wow. Good for you. Good for us. That one, actually, I can say, is good for me.

They call me old Skiggity McGiggy-Miggity. Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. That makes me feel good. What's going on, everybody? Skiggity McGiggyty here. I don't like it now. No, you don't like it anymore.

I don't like Skiggyty McGeedy's voice. I was trying to do like a radio personality, but like kind of like tone it down a little bit. Okay, I'll try again. No, I don't want to do it again. Oh, that's not fun. You can't make me. I'm not trying to make you.

I'm trying to channel my inner ink. I don't know if you guys are in the Atlanta area, but he's a huge radio personality. Well, we are talking Atlanta right now. So maybe they've heard, have you, please sound off in the comments if you've ever heard, Inc. on the radio. Oh, I'm sure people have gone to listen to him just to hear what he has to say. I can't imagine he

says anything about Mia ever. I wish, I don't even know what radio station he's on. I don't care to know. Power 99 FM. Listen, I'm trying to think of the ones. I know. I'm just naming things here. Yeah, that's fair. WMMR means more rock. I could be that voice. I could be that guy. You could, yeah. I would worry about your throat after a little while. You'd have to start doing the lozenges. Yep.

I'm a big lozange guy. Anyway, like Like I said, we're here to talk about Atlanta. I don't know where that was going. Nowhere. I just, I like cough drops. That's it. You know, I don't feel like everybody likes cough drops. I enjoy a good cough drop.

I like the burn. Not saying anything. Okay, cool. There's a lot to say. I'm not doing it. No, don't say it. But we're here to talk Roa, and what did you think of this episode? What's your teasing?

I like this a lot. I did too. I'll break down exactly why I liked it without getting too much into it. You know, we don't want spoilers, God forbid. It seems like we have a good group dynamics. not going on right now. There's a lot of things being addressed immediately. There's a lot of tension. There's a lot of things that are being talked about separately, but they're immediately brought up again. I feel like we have a couple of rifts going on, but you're not getting

the full rift right down the middle where it's split evenly. They're taking their time to fully dive into things, which I like. I also like that people will just be like, ah, not right now. Yeah. This was a big episode, I think, for second impressions. Yes. So we saw two different second impressions. One go very well, and one go horribly wrong, but very, very funny. Let me try to guess. One was Mike. He meant between the women and the group.

Because I had a second impression, Mike is still, he's in the first scene. He's fine. I'm not going to boast about him. I still think there's something off about it, but he doesn't seem super interested. He just seems like he's just, you know, whatever. I mean, Britt gave us a good breakdown of who he is. She talked about her past, which, you know, We're getting into this first scene anyway.

When she brings up being, like, a video vixen and dating Rick Ross. Baby. It's not Rick Ross, but yeah. I just, it's this song. God, what's the line? Like, I'm Rick Ross, baby. What's that song? Does it walk it like I talk it?

Yeah, it is walking like. I was trying to sing it in my head, and I'm like, ah, no, it's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad. I give you some credit. I'm not that bad. Yeah, no, that's fair. but the problem with that is I get so excited

when she brings up being in rap videos growing up being in a relationship with Rick Ross apparently give us pictures right where the fuck are the pictures I don't know I want to see that she was in it otherwise I'm sorry I don't know Brit that well I'm assuming she's lying I don't either and I would love to see her like on a date with Rick Ross that'd be tight God dude yeah that'd be pretty cool God he's the best he's a great follow yeah there was a video of him

going out, which I think about all the time. He was out golfing, and he learned a new phrase, and it was cloud coverage. Oh, yeah, I saw that one. Oh, man, he was having such a good time out on that course. That was actually when DJ Call had started getting into golf, and that was insane. But Rick Ross goes, cloud coverage. Learned that one today. Really like that.

Did you walk the way? I'm like, fuck, yeah, Rick Ross. That's great. Did you see the one where he was going to get a bunch of trees down on his property? Oh, yeah. And they're like, they quoted him. He's like, fuck that. He bought a chainsaw and just started hacking down like that tree.

He had a love obsession with pears for some reason for a while. He was a great internet presence for like six months. He had a really good run. Yeah. It was COVID, right? He's still got one of like a couple of the best albums I've ever heard. A couple of Mayback news. Welcome to talking Rick Ross.

Or to Miami. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We should have him on. I'm going to listen to Rick Ross on the ride home today. I think I might listen to Rick Ross in the gym tomorrow. You should. Yeah, you know what I'm going to.

Definitely should. Let's jump into this episode and we start out with Britt and Mike. and look, the first time I thought he was standoffish and dismissive, I think he's just mellow and doesn't want to deal with it. That's what I think now. He's just, he likes, he clearly likes to sip champagne. He's two for two on a champagne flute. I appreciate that.

He's just mellow. He's like, I don't have time for any of it. I just want to hang out. And it's super helpful that Brit explains him that way. Yes. After going through her dating history and what she was going, like who she was dating back when she was in her early 20s, now she's dating Mike. She explains him as this just,

Down to Earth, normal guy, doesn't really get involved in a lot of things. He's a man. He's like lower energy, not really interested in any of the drama, just wants to, like, do his own thing. He wants to sip champagne and be like, for him. Dessert's ready. Yep. Hey, come on. Like, that was my favorite part when he walked out of the basic guy.

Come on. Strawberry short. Come on. Come on. I've been waiting for this all day. Just, come on. Like, he's just so relatable. He's at like a five all the time.

Yeah. He never cranks it up too high. I like that. I like Mike. But anyway, we find out that. Britt lost her father in 2015, and you get more of her backstory about starting the insurance agency, which somebody in the comments did say it's an agency that has been alluded to MLM and things of that nature, so I'll give you credit there.

Yeah, you kind of still hear that. And look, I do like the backgrounds. I like that she sat down and she had a reason for starting this. It's more than you can say for somebody else who jumps into a pyramid scheme. But if you have a reason for starting the business, and it sounds like, She sold it. And I was a little confused about all of this. She sold it, but then she started another insurance business.

That's not what I got. What I got from it, which makes no sense to me because I don't know what she does now currently. I'm glad this is going to confuse me even more. I don't think so. I think it'll clear it up. Because from what I gathered from it, she started the insurance agency, brought her sisters in to help everybody make money, which is MLM. And then sold the business, much to her sister's chagrin. Right.

That is true. But then she started another insurance. She never said that. Well, she's working in insurance currently. That's why I'm assuming she started another one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but it's like freelance and stuff like that.

That's when the MLM comes back and play again. But anyway, I think this is probably what we got yelled at for arguing about last week. No, I think that was you and I argued about the, I think it was the Kyle thing when I was like, wait, whoa, in Summer House. I think that Summer House. Oh, okay. Because we got a- Wasn't when you said that Housewives only have one job. No, that might have been it when we were going back and forth, when you were gaslighting me into, and I, by the way, I obviously listened back to it. I didn't say only job. I said it's their job. Yeah. Yeah. Dick. Inflections. Here we go. You're going to start out arguing now. I was going through. Semantics are so great. Because on Spotify, like, comments, it's weird. Like, they show up in an app. And you can look at the app. I know, it's bizarre. So I always forget about it. And I'm like, oh, shit. We'll have like a bunch of comments that I have.

It goes for everybody, by the way, who leaves comments that think that they're, like, figuring something out and they're being mean to me or something. I'm not reading them. He doesn't read them. No, no, I read them. But I found a bunch, and that one was in there where someone complained about the constant bickering between us, and they don't even actually like each other, which was the funniest thing I've read.

I hate him, but I love him. Yeah, hot take. The bros actually hate one another. When it comes to, I do like having the background because you get to understand about it, you know, it still doesn't really change my opinion on it and come to find out that that was also a big point that Kenya was trying to make later in the season. So we'll see that. We'll have to see how she defends it. It's going to be a fluid case. Yeah, it's interesting. But again, the background being her father had a $2 million life insurance policy passed away in 2015 because

he was in between jobs at the time. There's a loophole that you don't get the money or something. It sounds horrible. I guess he had it through, and I don't know how this necessarily works, but this is logic he probably had it through the company and then got let go and but like I don't think that would void a whole life insurance policy well no because if you're working for a company and you pass away you're not working there any I'm not trying to be insensitive but like I don't understand the difference I don't get it either it's a little calling bullshit it's a loophole no no I believe it before anybody says that we're not calling bullshit on this story no I'm saying that clearly there there's loopholes built into these because insurance companies are disgusting right and kept

the $2 million from her and her family. So she figured out a way to make some money for everybody, which is good. I guess we're going to find out more about the ins and outs of her insurance agency at some point. But, yeah, that's where we stand with Brittany or Brit. And then we get to Porsche. I called her Britney too. Did you? It's just Brit, apparently.

It's just Brit. Yeah, that's going to take a while. I fell victim to somebody else on the cast called her Britney. And I think they were being shady. Ah. Stuck. Now you're being shady. Shady Goats.

Yep. Intentionally shady. Yeah, you can't help. yourself sometimes. It's not on my gravestone. I probably will. I probably will. What am I going to die before you?

I think so. I'm really hard to kill, apparently. That's the ultimate, uh, bro's death pool. Yeah. Oh, me versus you? We've got our bachelor draft and everything every time the guy comes up. We've just got me and you. Yeah, we're going to put out odds who's going to die first and you guys can bet on it.

Put it on social media. One of us is going to pop some, some champagne of some kind. Yeah, and then on the, that would be the fucked up part is the other person probably we'll do something like that in a video. I'd be like, well, the day finally came. Steals dead. We hate each other. Because we do not like each other.

Yep. But we get to Portia and Kelly, and you can tell the vibes are off, but Kelly's having a Balman event, which to raise money for, I wrote it down so I didn't get it wrong. I. I.O. OI. OI. Osteogenic imperfection or something like that.

It's Biddle bone, brittle bone disease. Yes. You know who has brittle bone? Dirk? Oh. You didn't know that, did you? Yeah, he takes medicine so that it strength to his bones. Shout out Dirk. Shout out old Dirk Otis. Yeah. But yeah, Dirk has brittle bone disease. Anyway, she's having this event, wants to clear the air with Portia. But the way that she approaches this conversation, and what I like, I do too, because of how it was settled. Yeah. But it could have went, I guess I'm thinking from a, you know, if I'm

watching a different housewife show or something with other casts, because coming into it like that where it's like I was just trying to get to the bottom of it. So I said, why did you take that lady's man? Yep. Porsche doesn't take it as like a fuck you. She just like responds and they're able to like settle this whole thing. I thought that Kelly was trying to be shady.

She really wasn't. Like the whole thing was just she presents it. She goes, I wasn't trying to be shady. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this and just move on with you. Yeah. I thought it was shade. I mean, it was in the moment. Yeah, it's, I think the question itself is innately shady. like there's no way to get around it. And yes, you didn't really have a quote-unquote first impression,

but you did meet at Shimea's birthday party. So now you get to sit down. And I thought that this was probably the most real situation where both of them were being very true to themselves. Kelly wasn't backing down. Kelly's not going to change the wording. She's not going to do anything else. She wasn't even sure if she was going to get a drink

because she didn't know how it was going to go, if she was going to be there, if she was going to get yelled at. Portia didn't know how this was going to go out either. And I think the Porsche respected the fact that Kelly just kind of kind of stutter grounds. I stand on business. If that's what you want to ask me, then ask me again. I'll give you an answer.

We'll go back and forth. And then they were able to just kind of troll each other back and forth. And now they're friends. Now they cleared the air. That's how friendships actually blossom, by the way. That's how dudes become friends too, for the most part. Talk shit. Exactly.

So it was a breath of fresh air for me. I'm like, hell yeah, I love this. Yep. They're able to clear the air. She's like, you know, I used to think you were a troll. Now you're my treasure troll. And they're like, what? Cheers, good scene.

New friendship blossoming, perhaps. I would bet that this is going to deteriorate again at some point. But yeah, it was nice to see them be able to just squash this and move on, especially early in the season. We don't want to get bogged down by this shit. It's not worth it. I also don't want to see, and we've seen this in pretty much every housewife cast for the last like four or five years at this point, whenever there's newbies. When newbies were very regular every single year, especially full-time castmates, you usually see the newbie come in. They come on strong.

It doesn't work out. Somebody who's been on the show for a while, knocks them down a couple of heads. and it just gets messy and annoying for like very quickly. So it was nice to be able to see Portia being open to this and respecting her. Yes, I agree. Becoming friends. Yeah, and be able to squash it. It was nice.

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Uh, Dave, you're off mute. Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. We move on from there and we get to go check in at the studio. I have a feeling we're going to have a lot of studio scenes with Drew this year. That's my vibe.

And it's Drew, Cynthia, Kenya, and Angela. Drew's singing, I will give her credit. She does have a nice voice. She does. Props there. And I'll be honest. I am going to miss Kenya when she's finally gone because she is a great housewife. I know she went too far with what she did this season, but she is good.

And she always calls out the bullshit at the right time. Immediately. And the right time is immediately. Yeah. She walks in and she goes, isn't Dennis supposed to be here? I'm like, fuck yeah. Let's get into this whole thing. And Drew, you guys need drinks?

Are we not going to pop this champagne? We're going to pop this, right? And Kenny's like, no, where the fuck is Dennis? Yeah, where the fuck is Dennis? The whole scene. Yeah, where the fuck is Dennis? We thought we were walking into this, which shows you, this was a planned scene, of course, and all the other women were like, this is actually probably going to be really good for the season.

Dennis is going to be able to get into it, talk to both of them about it. It's going to work out so well. He was supposed to be there. I don't know where he is, but he's supposed to be. Probably, hey, go sit in the back until they leave so we don't have to answer all these awkward questions. Probably the end of last episode was pretty rough the way that Portia just kind of laid into me about potentially filming with Drew. Yeah, so maybe

you shouldn't be here or the cameras are here. Oh, shit. Were they filming? Ooh, the cameras were there. Dennis may have been there. Did they get caught filming? And Dennis bounced?

Maybe. Wow. Possibility. Just that little like preamble. Let's have Drew sing a little bit. Although I will say they did announce her album is coming out. You know, we had a big issue

with the record of it all. But fine. There were 10 songs, 11 songs. maybe in there. And Dennis did get the first producer slot on the album. And it says Dennis All-Star Kid. That's his nickname, apparently. The All-Star Kid. All-Star Kid. Not Bro. Not Dennis Bro is his name in her phone. Dennis All-Star Kid. So I don't know what the fuck that means. He's an all- Hey now. Den's an all-star. But Drew is playing victim as we know so well. And she says there's been a lot of attacks on me. Kenya immediately's like, well,

You brought it on yourself by not asking Portia and Drew's defense of this whole thing. First of all, she defends. It's her attempt at a defense. Yeah, it's a haphazard one at best. But the first misstep, we just text. We only text. It's only professional. Cut to a quick scene of her calling Dennis not, I don't know, two weeks ago.

Yeah, like that's a stupid thing to lie about. It's pretty dumb. You already told everybody that he's helping you produce your album. Why go the extra mile? and say all we do is text. We never talk on the phone. Now you're hiding more things, even though we know that you guys talk on the phone.

So what are you doing? You're just building or digging yourself a huger hole. Yeah, a huger hole. Yeah. A bigger grave. Yeah, I don't know where the fuck I was going with that. You're just digging a hugeer hole. I was going to say build.

I don't know where I was going, building. Can you build a hole? I mean, yeah. That's a good question. Maybe some bricks in there, maybe. Yeah, okay. Build the hole. All right, I guess you could bail me out, pal.

Yeah, I got you, bro. That's what I'm here for. but she's trying to hold on to this we're only professional thing like I said it cuts to the phone says Dennis Bro so the professionalism starting to get a little bit less and less and Drew tries to defend

the Porsche of it all by saying I texted her I texted her a bunch she texted her three times three times one was responded to and yeah let's talk this day hey sorry they're going to Nobu

or something and she's like we'll go to Nobu and then Porsche had to to cancel. It's like, okay, oh, no. What Drew's doing is using the responses and the canceled plans as, hey, I tried. You tried three times in over a month. Three times and there were huge gaps in between each text. And that's fine if that's how you guys talk and whatever.

Not if you have something to tell her. You have something that is pressing that you know is going to bother her if you don't clear the air first. And I like the idea that Cynthia gives where she starts talking about how, who was it that had the movie? With her ex? Oh, oh, oh, Kenya, wasn't it? Was it Kenya? It was, yeah, no, Kenya booked Cynthia's husband on one of her. I don't know if she was producing or what she was doing with her.

And it was her ex at the time. And she was like, yeah, look, baby daddy's hit different. This is what's going to happen. You need to make sure that you clear the air first before you do any of this. Kenya called Cynthia to make sure it was cool. And it's not a hard comment. Like, that's the thing. Call her.

Hey, this might be kind of weird. This is how easy it could genuinely go. This might be a little strange. Dennis has offered to produce my. My album wanted to know how you felt about it. I'm just wondering if Drew's going to lean on the whole, I'm getting divorced. I've got so much going on right now. I've got so much going on.

I'm surprised she hasn't done it yet. She's already had sprinklings of it. I know. Yeah, it's definitely going to. She's like tested it out. I'm not taking away from what she's going through, but to use that to defend against Portia, which I do believe is going to happen. Ralph's still in the basement, just like watch a March Madness.

We get Ralph next week. I know. I don't think he was going to be in this. He probably shouldn't. He should probably do himself some favors and just stay in the fucking basement. He doesn't do that. No, no. He always puts himself in worse positions.

That's the good thing about Ralph. Like, he just made a post. Put some respect on my name, he says. No. No, no one's going to because you're a piece of shit. Definitely not now. No, you're asking for respect. I don't like being told what to do.

And you don't ask for respect. You demand it. Okay, everybody knows this. That's rule number one. Rule number one is. You made a post that said, I demand respect. A little funny. It'd be funny.

I actually would laugh. I would not give you shit for it. But put some respect on my name when there's no respect to be given towards you, Or is silly. Yeah. No, I don't have any left to give. Do you have respect laying around? No, we saw your shenanigans.

You used it all. Yeah. Respect all over the place. I can't take it away from somebody else and put it on you. Too many people deserve it. You don't. Yeah. So, Mike got a lot just for the strawberry shortcake comment.

Yeah, and it's very easy. We give respect out pretty easy. Yeah. Exactly. So if you don't get respect, that's a big sign. We're like a pez dispenser of respect. A respect. Uh-huh.

Yep. Totally. But Drew. Drew doubles down and says Dennis is so professional And Kenya's like, yeah Well, you're being talked about like a whore I'm going to miss Kenya

I'm really going to miss Kenya I know And it puts it in such a different perspective too Where it's like what are you talking about Yeah Like you can tell like Kenya's just pissed That Dennis isn't there to begin with I'm just going to go after Drew right now

I'm not going to take all of her like weird lurking around like I'm going to sneak around this one I'm going to sneak around that one I'm not really going to tell you the truth, but I'm going to tell you the truth in some ways. No, it's not going to work. What are you doing? Why are we talking about Dennis being respectful and being a good producer? This is what's

going on. Shamia just asked you last week, point blank. She didn't say, are you fucking Dennis, but it was implied. That was the... Are you a Dennis dating? Fair. Fair question, honestly, because nobody knows what the hell's going on. Address the elephant in the room here, Drew. We don't want to talk about Ralph. We don't want to talk

about your album. Nobody wants a drink. Nobody wants your champagne. Let's talk about Dennis. Yeah, and then you can have some champagne afterwards. Sure. But as we saw, Shamia is the one that brought this up by asking Drew about it. And it got heated, obviously. Why are we asking that? And as we know, Angela stepped in, which is going to come into play later on.

But Portia did reach out to Drew after the party, which Drew is saying, like, oh, yeah, like we're going to talk. It's all good. The fact that she reached out after the party and you still haven't had the conversation is a problem. What are you waiting for? She did the hard part. She initiated. I don't get it. And like I understand wanting to put things off that are uncomfortable to talk about.

Not if they reach out. You are being forced. Portia did not have to reach out to you and say we can talk about this. You now have another golden opportunity and you're on a TV show where everybody, all the producers sitting back there are going to be salivating at the idea of the two of you sitting down and talking about this. Yeah. It's a great scene. You have an easy setup here. Just go do it.

Why are you still putting it off? I don't understand much. She's afraid. Yeah. She doesn't want to deal with Portia. Yeah, that's what's going on. We get to Shamia and Tohanna, who is Shemia's sister. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.

If I'm not, I apologize. But we get a little update on her kids. As we know, Shemia is dealing with a lot. Shiloh has a lot of health problems still to this day. So now she's talking to this surrogate. Then she's doing IVF or she was doing IVF. And what if IVF doesn't work? And her estrogen levels are so high that she's at risk of stroke.

Like, it's a lot of really serious. shit. Yeah. And what's nice about this scene and other scenes that we've gotten, even the one with, you know, Mike and Britt, which wasn't as deep as this one. But the way that this show has begun to be structured so far this season is check in background, drama, check in background, drama with other people. Yeah.

Check in background. Like, I like the fact that we're going back forth, back forth, but we're not talking about the same shit each scene. Like we're going with the family stuff or talking about what's going on in somebody's life. And then we get somebody else getting into some shit with somebody else. Yeah, no, we have a surplus of riches when it comes to this show right now. I feel like there's a lot going on both with personal lives and also drama amongst the group. And you didn't really see this coming because there's so many newbies.

There was such a huge cast shakeup. They understood the assignment and they went into this the right way where we are and the producers too. We can throw them in there because the way that it's structured like you said, it gets us to get a better idea of who these women are. So that way, when we get into the drama, we understand where they're coming from and what they're standing on and all of the things that are associated with it.

So it's a really good inner working for the first three episodes, I feel like. I agree with that. I agree. And we jump immediately to Charles and Angela. And they're at one of Angela's properties. We heard she had five, so I like that we get the follow up to actually check out one of the properties.

while they're there, they're talking some bowel renewals. Charles was like, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. We've got a lot going on. Yeah, there's a lot happening right here. And she brings up Madison Square Garden.

And for those of you that don't know, I mean, they explained it on the show, but he got into it with the GM of the Nix. No, with the owner, James, the owner. Yeah. My apologies. Jimmy Dolan. That's right.

And he got kicked out of and therefore banned from Madison Square Garden. I think originally it was for life. And then they changed it to a year. We had to change it because there was a huge, like, uproaring of Knicks fans who already hated the owner. Well, they hate the owner. They love Charles Oakley, so, like... Yeah, everybody, all the Knicks fans were standing behind Charles Oakley saying, yeah, what are you doing?

Well, Charles Oakley got into it with the owner because the Knicks sucked and he called out the owner on the floor. Literally sitting court side, he called the owner out to his face and he got banned for a year because they all know who the Knicks owner is. Just do a little research on him. He is such a loser. And awful at his job. He's such an asshole. and he's in a cover band. He thinks that his band is the best.

He tried to book his band at MSG. So when MSG had like residencies for Billy Joel, he thought he could fill the garden? No, no, no, no, no, no. He wanted to open for Billy Joel? For certain people such as Billy Joel. That one's unconfirmed, but there was a lot of evidence pointing that way. So that's the type of person you're dealing with here.

Billy Joel had a residency that was sold out every show at Madison. Square Garden for how long decades yeah for a long who the fuck jimmy dolin yeah eat a dick pal you should be banned from the garden for a year he should be but he owns the garden so he can own these nuts anyway back to charles and angela like i said we get to address the madison square garden thing what i didn't even think about was how that moment this is like a this is a good I don't know barometer of because we see sports shit happen a lot

yeah we never think about the ramifications we watch the highlights on TV whatever we don't think about what happens in that athlete's personal life like we do that on Bravo yeah this is a good eye opener because it's like we had a lot of fallout from this not playing anymore it's not like he's a current player who got traded and said fuck the Knicks

and he's still playing for the Utah Jazz or something right he was all about the Knicks he was at most of the games he would show up at every playoff game basically the same as spikely and you got kicked out everybody more than spikely because he actually played for the team well no but yeah i mean yeah no yeah nope yeah when you think about the nicks in the playoffs you look at spikely on the side i on the court side i understand that when you think about the nicks and see charles oakly you go oh he played for the team right yeah so you're putting him above spikely as far as relevancy to the team

I would put them close. Pretty close. Okay. I'll agree with close. You can agree there. I'll agree with close. Okay, fine, close. But I was more referencing the fact that him and Angela had, they were affected by the Madison Square Garden incident.

They ended up not living together for a while. They were trying to figure some things out for like 14 months, she said. But it all worked out. They got back together able to clear the air. But yeah, it just was funny because there's so many things, events in sports off the field that we see. And it's like, yeah, but you don't think about like, oh, what happened was? his wife what happened with his kids like a two-year thing they had to think about the whole because he got the boot from the garden but anyway let's get to drew and her attorney

i don't comment on fashion a lot yeah what the fuck was that shirt i'm not really sure it was like it looked like something got stuck from the laundry basket on the front and i think that was f as h u n fashion i think she'd be fashionable yeah i think that's probably what she was doing i don't know this was to meet with your lawyer here's a problem okay i actually did think about that at first i was like what the hell's going on the first sentence out of drew's mouth about what's going on i completely lost my trade of thought okay that's fair the fact that ralph was representing himself and cross-examining her i couldn't stop thinking about that why don't we have scenes of that oh god dude we need that needed to be a public hearing yeah it did like could you imagine

him approaching the... Your Honor, may I approach the bench? Like, no, Ralph. You have to get him a fucking step stool to see over it. So, like, to cross-examine Drew, like, to be able to see over the witness stand, he definitely needed, like, a little stool to, like, hop up there. But, like, this paints such an interesting picture of what Ralph is.

No, it literally paints exactly who he is. The only people that would ever need to represent themselves in this capacity for a divorce hearing is just somebody who wants to get the power over their wife one last time. Exactly. That's what he wants. And that's why he's still withholding all of his financial information.

That's because he's broke. Yeah, he's broke and he was using Drew's money. We all know that. But he did all of this just to show her, hey, you think you're done with me? I've still got some power over you. I'm going to cross-examine you and you actually have to answer me. Dude. Like, let me remind you.

You're under oath. Did I actually undercook that chicken that one time? Like, that's what he wants to do. And that shows you what kind of husband he was. It's the perfect way to depict who he is. He's a narcissist. He's controlling. He's self-absorbed.

He has an inflated ego. Clearly, if you think you can walk into a court and perform as a lawyer with zero knowledge of the law or court proceedings, you're a lunatic. That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. He probably did so much damage to himself by trying to do that. When you said you were thinking about me while making out that girl on your music video, were you actually? Let me remind you.

You're under a perjure yourself. Who are you thinking about the music video? Said I was the biggest you've ever been with. Is that true? Oh, my God. Just to let you know what was going on in my brain. Honestly, though, like that's probably the line of questioning that you got. And I'm sure he got done that.

He definitely got finished with that day. and was like, P fucking crushed it. This is a breeze. This is so easy. I'm going to get everything I could ask for. He's probably trying to get alimony. He is.

I know. He's trying to get alimony and child support. And here's the thing. For the basement? Yeah. He's trying to redo that bad boy. He's trying to eat these new floors. Oh, my God.

Yeah. But like, it literally, I could not think of a better example of who Ralph is, his self-inflated ego, like I said, thinking that this is a good idea, he's a dumbass. And we've called that for years. The first day we ever saw Ralph on TV,

we were like, wow, this guy really fucking sucks. He's just further proving our point. I don't, the hubris, the gall, to think that you could handle that is fucking laughable. And I'm sure it did so much damage to whatever leg up he had in the situation. That was probably a direct correlation to him getting sent to the basement. Honestly, you want to do this? Okay, you have to live in the basement.

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And there's dead. Well, the finances he gave up, half of them were Drews. Correct. So he's hiding, he's hiding a lot. Yeah. And I think it's going to come out. He's been embezzling from his wife for years. He definitely has.

He said the only thing that we have heard as far as what he does is. is he's in tech. We've seen a lanyard from him at a tech conference. That's the extent of our knowledge. Isn't that just the plea to go cheat on his life? Yes. So, and then they start listing all of his, what do you call him? Infractions.

Yeah. Serial cheater, sexting other women, tracking Drew without her knowledge, and taking money out of her account. Yep. That should be stealing. It should be. It should be. It's not because they're married,

but it should be fucking stealing. That's fucking crazy. But a quick scene, you get Shimea and Shia headed to get her tonsils out. Yeah, it was tonsils and something else. Adanone? That's it. Added something.

It's something with an A. Added something. More importantly, we just get a really good shot of Shia in the backseat of the new rolls. Cruising in the Cullin. Just cruising with a double seatbelt look. Pretty sick. Hell yeah.

Yeah, I'm... Imagine pull it up and like seeing your doctor. Like, hey, look, it's doctor. I don't remember the doctor. You're in a fucking 400,000. Let me open the rolls. Yeah, I would say hi. My $400,000 SED.

Just going to pull up here and say, what's up. Yeah, it's pretty cool. But we get to Portia and Miss Diane, and they're talking about the divorce. We've been hearing a lot about the Simon divorce, obviously, and it all keeps coming back to the same thing. This version of Simon is a version that Portia's never seen before. He's toxic. He's volatile. It's a lot of really bad vibes, and there's no communication between the two of them.

And I guess in their culture, B-E-N-I-N, I don't want to mispronounce it, Benin, something along those lines. But in their Nigerian culture, when it comes to divorce, I guess you can go to the family and discuss it with the family. So she tried to do that. And the fact that they didn't talk to was like a huge red flag to her where she's like, oh, shit, this is really bad, this whole thing going really bad.

So all their communication has been pretty much through the court for that I gather. They're not talking at all. So I haven't heard any updates on this. Neither of I. And it's such an interesting thing to think about where she said she feels so alone in the divorce because she can't even talk to who she's divorcing. I'm like, well, that is a very interesting thing. But it's also coming from experience of having another divorce in which she says, I felt like we were getting divorced together. Yeah.

And in this one. It's also an interesting thing to say. Hey, you know. To each their own, I don't care. Sure. I just thought, I just wanted to put a little bookmark about it. She's got, she's done it, you know, both ends of the spectrum. Seasons, yeah. one was fun one's not one promoted togetherness

one promoted divorce yeah there you go full circle question mark yeah sure and she is going through a lot of stuff and she keeps alluding to that as well and she's like you know shemia wanted to take me out she'll make a good time we went to the strip club but when we were there all she did was tell me about

Kelly like these two women that I don't know talking shit about me essentially which isn't helping me relax and Miss Diane warns her about Shamiya. You need to look out for her. Like, I'm just saying, which I could see. Like, I get what she, I don't think Shamiya's full of shit, but I do think that she's capable of being like, hmm, don't have a little shade at you out of nowhere.

Yeah, I mean, you have to think about the group dynamic with the show, with Shemia potentially being the center point of this show. How is she going to react to that? Is she going to burn bridges with her current friends so that she can keep the peace with other people and be the center of attention at all times, it could be leading that way. I don't know. I'm not going to say that it looks like to me that it's going in that direction, because I don't really see it yet. But it is something to keep an eye out for her. Keep an eye. I like Shamea a lot. I do too. I really like she. Even if she burns the bridge

with Portia, I'm still going to like Shamea. Oh, same. Yeah. I don't think I, it would take a lot for me to not like her, but hey, raise your things have happened. We get to Balman with this Mommy and Me event. And as I said, now I will read it. The OI Foundation, Ostagenis Imperfecta. There you go. All right. And that's Brittle Bone Disease.

Okay, there we go. So we're there for the OI event. 10% of all purchases go to the OI Foundation. So pretty cool there. Portia lets us know that Drew hijacked her makeup artist. Oh, yeah. So then she got to Porsche's late, but Porsche was still there on time.

And Drew shows up like seven hours late. Yeah. But my point with this, I tend to. think and feel that when there's this level of petty going on, the drama always hits way harder. Yeah. Like taking makeup artists, like little moves here and there to fuck with the other person,

but you're still trying to be like, oh, no, we're good. Like, why does Drew think she's in a position to do this? Is it just an isolated, oh, shit, well, I know that you're going to go over to Portia's for the same event. I got to make sure that I have as much time as possible with you, like maybe and she's not thinking about it. You know what I think? But if she's really being petty, why?

does she think she's in a position to do that. I think I jumped the gun. Sorry, I mean to interrupt. No, go for it. I think, and this is based on the scene we got earlier in the studio. This is based on something she says at this party. In a confessional, but still, in regards to this party. She says at one point talking about Porsche in the conversation that they are not able to have at this party because Portia says, go, fuck yourself.

She's like, I don't know, maybe she'll come by the studio. Maybe we'll put in a song. I think that she is riding high, high, high, high right now. Like, she thinks she's the shit because she's been back in the studio. We have scenes in the studio. It's a legit studio. She's got producers. You know those musicians. I'm just saying, I think she's feeling a little too big for her britches right now.

And I think that she's going to fuck with the wrong one in Porsche and find out real quick because Drew's not going to stack up to Porsche. That's going to lead to such a major fall. Oh, yeah. That's actually even better than just having like little tidbits. the drama and pettiness along the way and then a big boom, if Drew lets herself get that high and she's brought down, it's going to crash and burn. I think that's my bold prediction for the season.

I think she thinks she's hot shit right now. And she's like, especially because we get to, like I said, you're filming in the studio, we're seeing you do your thing. I just don't know why she's poking Portia. Like you already did something. She reached out to you to say, hey, can we meet up and talk this week? You could have cleared the air there. You're not doing it.

You're pushing it off as far as possible while poking her still, it's not going to be good for you, Drew. Because she thinks she's hot shit. She's got a different air about her right now. And, like, you can equate some of it to going through a divorce and, like, maybe not being fully herself right now. I just, I think where she's at in her life at this moment, professionally, I think she's riding a little higher than she normally does. But Kelly gives a speech and opens up about OI and all three of her daughters have it. And she tells a crazy story. Heartbreaking story.

I can't imagine. Like she noticed that Chance, one of her children's arm looked kind of funny. And she was concerned about it, took them to the hospital, got an x-ray, and the bone was broken. I don't even know if they said that part, but I just assumed that. And at some point, Child Protective Services was called because of the injury. and they assumed that something was going on in the house, they were not allowed to leave the hospital. The next thing she saw was two police officers,

like step in front of the door and be like, hold up. So until the doctor, and this is wild, that this is how they test it, looks in her son or daughter's eye with a flashlight, and there's a blue tint, I guess, and that is an indicator of OI. Yeah. So at that moment, they're like, it's OI, send them home.

Right. But it's also crazy to think about, like, I know a little bit about, brittle bone because of Dirk genuinely like you could bump somebody and it could crack their arm like it's that crazy it's insane our buddy takes medicine for it that does make your bones denser which sounds really painful too yeah it does but yeah so that's uh her recapping that story was like oh my god that sounds awful but what i love about this group from what we've seen so far mom wise we've got a lot of strong moms in the house and i fuck with that yeah

Like, it's what we need. Yeah, it's awesome. A good characteristic of a good show. Isn't it? It tends to be, yeah. And I like, I like how they all stand up for their families and children. They're all, you know, going out, trying to make all the money in the world for their family. So it's good vibes there.

But Drew arrives, I think it was 66 minutes after Porsche did. And she got her makeup done by Porsche and her, oh yeah, and her hairstylist. Yep. Both. So you had her glam squad before her, and yet she still showed up on time. Sure did. I had traffic in Atlanta. She should have showed up on time.

Because of that? Should have. Because she was two hours late for Shamias thing. So Portia makes sense that she's on time this time. You can be consistent. But Drew thinks that she's cool. She walks in fashionably late. That's not even fashionably.

That's straight up late. Well, you know what it probably was? I think that Drew did that. And maybe her sister was running late. And Drew's like, shit, I can't go to this event without my sister. I need backup. I already pulled the petty move. That's a good point.

He's on the way. I got to make sure. I got to make sure I got that backup. Come on. It's still come to my house. I don't care if you're going to be an hour late. It's okay. We'll be all right.

Yeah. Interesting. I like that. But you get Shimey and Angela. And Angela was talking before to other people and being like, hey, do you think it's a good, I don't think Angela wants this to continue. I don't think that she even wanted there to be drama. She was just sticking up for Drew in that last episode because that's her friend.

So she's like, do you think it's a good day to do this? And they're like, yeah, yeah, you can go talk to her. So she goes over to Shami to talk to her. She's like, hey, we got off in a bad foot. Shameda didn't give a fuck, like immediately. She's like, I know. She's kind of closed off, like, whatever. Yeah, we did.

And she's like, well, you know, I would love to be able to talk. She's like, oh, I would love to talk to you. I would love to talk to you, not Drew spokesperson that I saw the other day. And she's like, a little heat check. Check it out. But I love that Angela went back and was like, oh, that was Angela. And I was like, oh, fuck yeah. Like, you're not going to take her shit either.

No. And Shamea's like, okay. Then we have nothing to talk about and just turns around and walks away. Angela goes in very gently calls her Shamina funny light not a big deal

good play on words shemina yeah with your 1999 nose I was like oh oh man and she's alluding she really got her though

and she's like I wrote down everything she said because it was funny it was really mean but it was funny she said taking over 99s in 2000s I was like, was that a radio call out, too?

Like, oh, my God. Or is that, like, she's ruthless. Yeah, and it's definitely something that Shemia was sitting on, too. It's one of those situations where she had to see where it went. And if Angela was going to stand on Drew's side and not talk to her as Angela, as, you know, Shemia wanted her to, then, yeah, I'm going to pull all these out. I've been thinking about these all set up. She actually already made the 90s nose joke about, like, five minutes before Angela walked over. She was practicing.

She's practicing. Yeah, she's just testing the waters. Like, you guys think this is funny? All right, cool. It worked? I'm going to refine this. It'll be so much better in like 10 minutes when I have to drop it. And then when she claps back at me, I'm going to come even harder because she calls me Flava Flav.

She called her Flav a Flav because it is funny because especially when she explains, she's like, yeah, the hype man. And then Porsche is Chuck D. Just collects a check. I was like, nicely done. Bravo. Shemia dressed up as Flavafave at one point. So even clear.

So context. I'm not even sure that Angela knew that, but worked out well. It worked out extremely well. But then Shamiya comes over the top and she's like, does anyone have any glue? to glue her nose back down. I was like, oh, oh, my God. And then she drops Latoya Jackson. I was like, damn, I think that, I think you lost.

That was just good all around. But you know what? She didn't lose because she didn't lose her cool. That's true. She said, Charles would be very proud of me. She stayed mellow. I stayed in my lane. I'm going to walk over here.

And then she made jokes about her own nose while putting glasses on. That's what you got to do. A little self-deprecation. Just lean into the joke a little bit. Why not? That's a good way to do it. I think there's a way forward for them, because when you break...

The way that we just watch Kelly and Portia sit down and roast each other back and forth and then become friends at the end because they appreciated the roast, Shamia could do that in some level. We'll have to see how the Drew situation shakes out because, look, the way that Angela is, I appreciate that she's standing up for her friend,

Drew is not the one that you really want to stay. Oh, God, no, no, no. She is going to not only bury herself. She's going to bury you in the process. She's going to hold on to that wagon for too long. Yep. So she needs to understand when she needs to eject. from that, not eject from the friendship.

You can do whatever. But don't crash and burn with Drew, because she is going to crash and burn in some way, shape, or form with one of the other women. She's setting the stage for it already. Yeah, it's already going to happen. You need to be aware of what's going to happen there and get out before. Protect yourself. Ejecto Cedocas. Yeah, ejecto Cicot.

A lot of good movie references today. But I think they have a lane forward because of what the argument stems from. Because Angela can just say, hey, I stand up for my friends. And Shamiah might hear that and be like, you know what? I respect that. I didn't like that it was for Drew, but I was standing up for Porsche.

So we both stand up for friends. I think that they'll be okay. Yeah. Or we have the head of- We can match each other's energy. That's what I thought. From the jump. Yep. Yeah, we can talk about this if you're not going to be, and it was very shady to say,

if you're not going to be Drew's spokesperson, Angela took that as shade and immediately responded in kind. Yep. There was nothing wrong with that. No, it was in play. I think they're going to be just fine. But the episode ends because Drew approaches Portia and comes in a little strong. He says, hey, let's go talk.

And Portia's like, I'm not feeling good this week. We'll do it next week, which I love to brush off. And she goes to confess. She's like, I don't know who she thinks she is coming in here telling me what we're going to talk. Like, I'll let you know when we're going to talk because that energy was way too strong for me. That's when Drew goes to her confession and goes, you know, she texted me to talk and shows like receipts. And she says, I don't know, maybe she should come to the studio. Maybe we'll make a song out of it.

And that sounds like, oh, you think you're hot shit right now. That's the vibe. So that's going to lead to her downfall, inevitably. Because all housewife singers always work out, right? One's got to, I mean, statistically... Statistically speaking, someone's got to make it. Let's get to some questions. First up here, just a nice little shout out from Michael E. Bose.

No question, but I have to say that Kelly's story was so... touching and love you guys. Thanks, Michael. Thank you. We love you too. Kelly's story was very touching. It was. It was nuts.

And the other one in here from Collis White, why does Brittany have a weird obsession with Kenya? We're not sure what's going on with this. We broke down that first, the party scene talking about the wedding ring situation. Yeah. I don't think that Kenya really, unless Kenya knew who she was, and I wouldn't put it past Kenya to, like, do some research on the newbies. I wouldn't either.

or something out and then, you know, try to poke here and there. I could definitely see that. But I didn't really think there was anything bad behind it, and Britt took it so bad. I keep calling her Brittany. Everybody's doing it. I don't know if she came into the season with a game plan. Yeah, maybe.

You go after one of the OGs and I make a name for myself. I don't know. But I do know she may get saved by the fact that Kenya gets kicked off. I mean, obviously we know how far this goes and it's not good. It's actually really bad. Yeah. But I don't know. I know. She keeps coming back to it.

I know. But I'm curious, like, at some point, something's going to escalate it to a point that leads to Kenya doing. I don't know. I'm not saying that Britt escalates it. I don't know. Kenya escalates it. Something's going to happen that gets it to a point that these posters are made at Kenya's event. Yeah, I wonder how much of that we're going to actually see. My whole thing with it is we know what happened. We know you filmed. So why would not, like obviously, obviously blur out. the images. Right. But I guess I don't understand if if we're aware of the event, we're aware when it happened, we're aware what happened, you filmed it, why can't we see it? Is that what it is? Is that what it is? Like, yeah, we can all

know about it because we read it and saw it on social media, but... No, we're going to get a big black screen and it's going to say, like, they're going to be walking into the party and then you're going to get one of those cut scenes where it's just all black and it says, like, in writing 20 minutes later, or during this event, you're going to hear audio from it. Yeah, and then you're going to see, like, Britt running out or, like, walking out. You're going to see the aftermath.

Yeah. That's probably going to be that scene, rather than show it. But, I don't know. No, no. No, I don't know. I don't know. No, I don't know. Where's the Ajor?

I don't know when she comes back. She's probably soon. Yeah. Well, I think someone in the comments said that Kenya's in for, like, seven, six or seven episodes, and then she, but. Would they know? I don't know, dude. We would know these things. You would think.

When we get DMs, I had no idea. Yeah, that happens a lot. Oh, shit, no way. Is this verified? Is this verified? You're telling me? No, but you got anything else? You told me a shrimp fried this race?

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