Bros & Shows - From Anguilla to Atlanta (RHONY Full Recap, RHOA Reunion Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

What's up Bros? It was Steel's birthday yesterday (happy birthday me) so this episode is a little later than usual, but we are headed to Anguilla with the ladies of RHONY. Up first though, we talk some news. Erika Jayne's show is selling tickets for $7.00 a seat, RHOSLC is back and Courtney (Ralph's "cousin") used to live in Tampa... Jenna is headed down on her first girls trip a couple days earlier than the crew to build up a base tan. As she's shared with us she is a insecure about her genetic disorder and how her skin looks as a result. Although she let's it slip to Erin that she also feels some type of way about flying coach... The general consensus amongst the group (and us bros)is that she just needs to be honest about her reasoning. The little lies don't make a whole lot of sense. We get a check in with Brynn and her brother Daris, and we continue to get a peek into Brynn's psyche. She explains that due to her difficult upbringing it keeps her from being able to take the final step in her relationships and actually get married. The crew makes it to their destination but tensions are high as Erin has let it slip to the rest of the group that an underlying reason for Jenna's early arrival is her not wanting to fly coach. Then its off to ATL for the first part of the reunion. And it was great. Sheree defends her actions throughout the season and the ladies all agree, while she is the peacekeeper, she is definitely the bone collector as well. Kandi and Drew are at odds as Andy highlights the shade that Drew threw towards Kandi, Todd and The Pass after commenting she's only doing "Lifetime and Above"... The drama, although entertaining, is clearly building towards the Ralph, Courtney and Drew saga. While we do get some little snippets here and there about what we can expect next week, we're still waiting for some answers. Courtney defends Ralph and Drew reads her (rightfully so) about coming after her kids in the final scenes of the last episode. Hopefully next week is as entertaining with some more info on what we all want to know. Did Drew and Latoya kiss? Is she with Ty Young? What the hell is going on with Courtney and Ralph? All that and more on todays episode!!! Time Stamps: Bravo Weekly News (4:50) RHONY recap (12:55) RHOA reunion recap (40:03) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by the one and only Shooter Magouter.

What's up, shoots? Not a lot. Back from vacation, just trying to get back into the world, you know? Oh, yeah. It's tough. Yeah, it's tough to shake off

like the post vacation, like, rust. Yep. I always find that I need a buffer day, so I'll plan vacations accordingly so that I'm home and settled and I have a whole 24 hours of nothing to do because I can't go from vacation mode right back into work,

the next day. Yeah, I feel like I need a vacation from my vacation. Right, the buffer day. Like, yeah, and then as I do that secondary vacation, kind of ease myself back into social situations. Right. So you should try the buffer day. Okay. The buffer day is a great, it's a great move, but you have to plan accordingly, and sometimes it means leaving, like, a day early from things. Yeah, I feel like my buffer day was pretty much just getting home early from wherever I was and ordering food and playing video games, watching sports, and maybe a couple of naps mixed in there. Yeah, that's a buffer day. Yeah, I feel like that. I feel like that's what happens speaking of sports if you haven't noticed i have my

kelly green eagle shirt on i have my new eagles hat i pick a new eagles hat for every season i wear it for the entirety of the season if we win a super bowl i'll wear it next season last year we got damn close for a repeat hat year but uh as we know patrick mahomes paid off the refs it was a whole thing they paid off the sod guy so they fucked with the turf the eagles got hosed it's a whole thing it's going to come out in a scandal i think this year. Oh, nice little Bravo NFL crossover? Yeah, they're doing an investigation funded by me.

So far, they haven't found anything, but I'm confident. That sounds about right. I will say if the Eagles do not, if they have an influencer day, we don't get invited, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. How do we start to promote ourselves to tag the Eagles in every clip that we do? Just start tagging. Anytime that one of us has any article of Eagles clothing, which will be 95% of the episodes, pretty much from here until February, we'll tag.

Well, it's going to be a mix of Phillies and Eagles stuff because we got, there's a lot happening in the city of Philadelphia. Shorby hit a home run to lead off the game about 45 minutes ago. It's a good time to be a Philly fan in general. Isn't it always, though? Isn't it all? We're just better than everybody else. Last year is pretty rough with the second places. The big second place here was not the best.

It was last year. It was a lot under the bridge, exactly. Talking about last year. Yeah, but playoffs. But anyway, this is our midweek episode. So as you know, we got to do our power rankings. But before we get to that, I had a lovely birthday dinner last night downtown. Oh, yeah.

Everybody wished to steal a happy birthday. I kept it under the radar for the entire day. And, like, there's a woman at the gym that shares a birthday with me. And she came in and she was so excited. She's like, oh, it's your birthday. I was like, shut up. I was like, you shut your mouth. I was like, do not let everybody here know.

Going out to dinner with my wife, nobody else knows what's going on, all right? I didn't post or repost anything until the day. ended and then I reposted Dev stuff because it was cute. And of course, I'm going to repost my wife's stuff. Of course. But I'm not no, I do not like to get any kind of praise for my birthday. I don't like the awkward, like, happy birthday. Then you got to sit there

thanks. And then... I feel like it's probably good to move on from like Facebook. I feel like that's where you get the majority of people that you haven't talked to in 15 years. I don't know how the fuck they still know. Because I remember back in the day they used to prompt you and say, oh, it's Steel Russell's birthday.

Reach out to him and say hello. Yeah. But now it's just like you really have to go digging deep or you have a calendar with people's birthdays on it, which I know people to do that too. I know people that do that. But I also think it's weird that, you know, just because we were acquaintances or maybe we friended one another like 10 years ago, I don't reach out to people I don't know. Oh, happy birthday, stranger. Yeah, because then you're obligated to respond. And if you don't, then you're the asshole. It's just a mixed up world.

And I don't want any part of it. You know what? Public service announcements, stop wishing people happy birthday if you don't know them. If you are Facebook friends, but you don't know the person, let me put it this way. If you don't know the person's mother's name. No, no, no. If you haven't spoken to the person outside of a happy birthday post in the last five years, just don't. Five.

Five is a cutoff. Five is a good cutoff. Five is a good cutoff. All right. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, let's move on to some news. And the first thing I want to talk about is Erica Jane's show. Now, if you've been paying attention to social media, you might have noticed that ticket sales seem to be down because they're selling tickets for, I saw one post for $7. I saw another post for $1.

I'm not giving too much merit to that. It could be true. It's probably true, but this is my question. What does a residency actually mean? How many shows is she doing? Multiple shows a day? Residency to me says one show a day five days plus a week. Okay. If Billy Joel was out there doing residency shows, which he does, I think he did it at Madison Square Garden last year, sure, you're going to get high ticket sales. You're going to have higher ticket prices. It's Erica Jane. It's in Vegas. Nobody, I don't even really have a residency at Madison Square Garden. He had it last year. Isn't a residency? That's a recurring thing. It's like a month-long residence.

Oh, okay. Yeah, he was there, he was there Monday through Friday, I believe, or maybe it was like Tuesday through Saturday with Sunday, Monday off. Gotcha. All right. He went every night, and it was awesome. She's kind of catching a stray in all of this. But it's Erica Jane. Like Tuesday, 7 o'clock, and you're in Vegas. Sure, yeah, if tickets are a dollar, I'll be like, yeah, I got nothing else going on. I lost all my money on roulette.

I'll go over and check out Erica Jane for a little bit. I'm probably not staying for the whole show. I'm probably leaving because I, again, went for a dollar. But she's not going to raise these huge ticket prices. People in the Bravo World act like she's some huge superstar. She's not. I think I'm going to play devil's advocate here, kind of leapfrogging off of what you. saying, in order to know how bad it is to charge $7 a ticket,

what do other residences of a similar scale to Erica Jane, what are they charging? I think that's the problem. You know what I mean? I don't think that there are residencies on a similar scale to Erica Jane because she is only big because of Bravo. No, I understand that. She got the residency through Bravo.

But I'm saying as far as, let's just say, venue size, period. Like other venues that, because I saw the map of her venue, it's not massive. So I wonder other venues of that size, that are doing a residence. Probably the same, I would imagine. You think they're charging $7 tickets? Yeah, probably. Can somebody do some digging for us?

It's also not a price-controlled thing. I'm sure that the post that I saw was like Stubhub or, you know, game time or whatever, one of those apps. So people are just kind of selling them off and like maybe they bought the entire month thinking, whoa, this could be a big hit around BravoCon. Like as people start to gear up towards that and be able to charge more for them, let me just get these first couple out of the way. It could be something like that.

I really don't know how that works. I feel like there's more to this story than just she, She can't fill seats all the time. I don't know, though. What is she singing, dancing? Like, I guess. Yeah, it's a, I would say it's a singing forward show. She's a singer and a performer, so I'm assuming it's performances of her songs,

maybe a couple of covers in there, maybe a couple of dance routines. And there's got to be a moment where she breaks it down and goes, all right, everybody, let's chat for a minute, and then whips her hair, and then, like, sits down in a chair and gets deep. That's pretty good. That's kind of what I think. That's a really good impression. That's my Erica Jane. That's my E.J.

Look, I mean. if it's a Wednesday night and there's not a lot of people there and she's looking to the audience and she does something like that it's got to be kind of a mood killer right? I don't know man I think we've talked about it for too long

I know this is just me trying to wrap my head around it I'll need more I need video footage of what it's like and I don't want that bullshit propaganda where it shows a sold-out show and then it's a weird cut and then all the sudden Erica Jane's on stage right give me a real glimpse of what it's like somebody from like the mid-level

give us like a scan of the room yeah it's got to be from a phone I also don't want Erica Jane posting it out because if she reposted it, it's probably fake too. And a review. I would love a review from an unbiased fan. Breakdown. Yeah.

Not Zach because he loves Erica, so it's not, I don't think it's unbiased. Yeah, that's a good point. Anyway, other than that, and this is going to kind of leapfrog us into Atlanta, obviously the other news being Roslick is back. We are covering that on Friday's episode, so we're not going to dig too far into it. Now, I will say the reception seems to be solid. It does. It does.

It does. seem to like it. People are happy that it's back. We'll see how it goes. Do you think that it got a better reception because the other shows are so down this past year that I think that how it always happens though? Well, I think that like they have a golden opportunity here to make an actual comeback. If they had to go up against much stronger shows, like if Bravo had had a better showing

as far as like, that's what's weird. I guess the views have been up for a lot of shows just because of the scandals. but as far as the content they're putting out, I would say it's not the best seasons. Even Atlanta, which we enjoyed, everyone saying, was not their best season to the point that they're talking about a reboot now. I think that Salt Lake is at the perfect time to try to jumpstart everything because everything else is kind of meh.

I think that we actually talked about this just because Steele and I were trying to figure out logistics, which we are not good at. No, we're not. And it's going to be a, it's going to be a tough road ahead of us, honestly, because I think Southern Charm airs tonight or tomorrow night, tomorrow night, Thursday night. So we're going to have Southern Charm in there. We're going to have Roslick in there.

We're going to have, I guess, the tail end of Atlanta. Do we ever get confirmation on how many reunions there is? There's only two. It's a two-parter. Okay. All right, cool. And then obviously we've got the tail end of O.C. That's going to be coming out and then their reunion.

That'll kind of throw us into everything else with Beverly Hills coming back in November. So we were trying to figure out logistically where everything works. But what I will say is we've been doing this for over a year now. How many times have we gone through a show? and we're like, all right, we're just ready for it to be over. It was okay, and then it stunk, and now we're bored, and now we've got the reunion, and there's seven parts to get through, and then there's something else behind the paywall that we need to talk about then.

And then we start watching something like, O.C. First three episodes of O.C., we're like, this is such a nice change-up. This is fun. This is great. By episode four, five, six, and seven, I was ready to jump off the ship. I don't think we made it that deep. I think it was episode two. We both were like, not. Well, I think that, yeah, I know.

That's actually true. I think we did go through episode one and two in the first review. view that we did. Yeah. And then the third one, we're like, all right, you know, we'll see. And then, yeah, and then I think it quickly fell off a clip from there. But I feel like that happens with every show. Like, we get kind of tired of them because they drag them out too long and there's too

much bullshit things up. Well, Atlanta, we got through without getting. Atlanta's fine. I have no issues Atlanta at all. So I don't know. I'm excited for Salt Lake. I'm glad it had a good reception. I hope they have a good comeback season.

I felt like an idiot last year. All I did was talk it up. We finally got to watch it. It was your first time watching it, and it was awful. It wasn't, and that's the funny thing, is the first couple episodes of that were pretty good, too. They were fine, yeah. It's just they go down these weird paths, and I do think that Bravo needs something like Salt Lake because it's different. Like, yes, I mean, for the most part, they're still arguing about the same shit.

But as far as the lifestyle, it's a little different with the Mormonism that comes into everything. I want to know more about that. We need more about the Mormon stuff, because that's going to differentiate it from something like Beverly Hills. Like, yes, we've got money. We've got fuck you money as well. Okay, what are we doing differently? Not a whole lot, honestly. They got to fuck you Mormon money.

Yeah, which is huge. I mean, that's religious money. So I don't know. I really do hope that they do well because, one, it's good for Bravo. Two, I think they've got some good people on the show. And obviously, Mary Cosby coming back is going to help a lot. So we'll just see where it goes. But I'm cautiously optimistic.

I think that's a good way to put it. And then the last thing is there's some evidence coming out now that Courtney from Atlanta, cousin Courtney, unverifiable cousin Courtney, had a residence in. Tampa. Did you stop yourself from saying residency? I did. Okay. Residence. See, I didn't know what to make of this, though.

Like, so what? Like, Ralph was apparently going to Tampa. I don't give a shit. I have theories that we'll get to later. You think they're hooking up? I have theories. We'll get to later. Leave it there.

Because first we got to talk about Roni. It's not like the residence was in Alabama. Hey. Oh, see, it's always safer in that to just say Texas because I'm from Texas so we can just lean on the, oh, it steals from there. It's not that bad. No, no. I do not care.

Sorry to our Alabama fans. He's JK. But we're in Roney, or we're back with Roney, and once again, love the episode. I love this show as a whole. I've thoroughly enjoyed since episode one. There's been, I think, one episode where I was kind of like, eh, but even then it wasn't bad. I think that was like the third one maybe.

It was, yeah, like the third or fourth one kind of thrown in the middle. It wasn't bad. It was fine. Because I think we're so used to that. something being bad because we're annoyed by something that's been dragging on for too long. Really, that's our only gripe with these shows. Actually, a good point. Is when something drags on for too long and we're like, all right, enough.

They haven't done that. They kind of nip things in the bud and then start something else. And it might be between the two same people and it's just kind of stirring more things up. But for the most part, they do a pretty good job of cleaning up and apologizing and doing this and that. So nothing really to complain about. I've been enjoying it. That's a good point. You know what I loved about this whole episode?

What's that? They started out with Thursday, December 22nd. Yeah. I was like, yes, we got a timeline. And then even later, they did a two weeks later thing. There were a lot of things to go into. Like, Jenna said that she had her surgery on January 3rd. Yes.

Like, it was so easy to follow. Give me the goddamn timeline. Now I know. We have one episode that encompasses before Christmas and then well after Christmas because they don't go to, they go to Antigua or Angia. Anguilla, which I thought it was Anguilla. It definitely is. It's double L. But everyone said Anguilla.

I don't know if I trust them. I don't know, but they are much more likely to go there than we are. They have money, so that means they've been there. Well, they flew coach. How much money do they have? More than us, dude, more than us. But let's jump into it. We start out with Sai and Uber.

We finally have Uber back. Thank God. Yep. We need Uber back in our lives. She is COVID-free. And what I want to touch on from this scene, I love the fact that Uber, who is a supermodel, Buba, who is in high fashion frequently, openly admits, like, yeah, when I shop on my own, I'm kind of clueless.

I loved that. She's not faking it. Like, oh, I know exactly what to get. She's like, no, I have designers. It's tailored to me exactly. Like, I don't usually have to go shop for myself. So I'm kind of like, help me out. That's kind of cool to hear.

Relatable. It's weird to see, like, a model like that be relatable. Yeah, I know. I really enjoyed the fact that she said that. But what I did not enjoy about this scene, I'm confused. All right. So this is the first time. And it's talked about multiple times throughout this episode, but this is the first reference to the gift bags that Jenna gives out.

In those gift bags, there's a lot of collapse. So she does a lot of collaborations with a lot of companies. I'm assuming with nice companies and it's nice shit, but it has her name on some of the boxes. And Sai complains about the gift bags because of the collapse, implying that Jenna's trying to push her shit on them so they'll post about it and, like, that's size job. She gets paid to post about things. So while I understand that, what I don't understand is do you think that Jenna needs you to promote herself? Because I don't think she does. I don't think she would be doing it if she's bigger than all of time.

I think she needs it. You think Jenna needs it. Yeah, I think so. I think it's because it's not it's not Jenna Lyons, J.Crew, collabed with another big brand. It's always Jenna Lyons with and then pretty much name redacted. Like we haven't seen one other name on the collab. So I think she's trying to do this as kind of like her side thing and she's doing a couple other things, whatever. I think they do kind of explain it at the end when they say that she posted it on Instagram.

She did a boxing video and she threw it in there and she took a second to say, this is my collab with whoever, blah, blah, blah, and then she tagged all of the minute. She wants them to repost it. Otherwise, why are you doing it? I agree with that. I agree that she wants some kind of repost, but I don't think that it should be painted in this severely negative light. She's still giving you free shit. And in that one box of stuff or the bag of stuff, the only, there was one.

thing out of like the 10 things in there that was gentle lions related i don't think that it's worth i don't know i think size giving perspective i'm not really even because again like yes if somebody just gave me gifts over and over again and at the bottom of it it was something that they're working on it's like all right whatever like i'll support of friends i don't really care but sigh's giving a little bit of perspective and she's noticing that every single gift that she gives always has some sort of collab in there that's something that she did something that she's worked on it's not a passion project of hers, it's a business. Do you think that it takes away from the genuineness of the gift? I think so. I think so for sure. And I think that, look, I'm not like a huge size supporter.

I feel like she kind of gets on my nerves a little bit. But after seeing exactly what she does, this is exactly what she does. This is how she earns a living. So now she's kind of bringing that whole world into a gift. Now, look, if I was giving you a gift all the time. And every time that we had like dinner or something together, I brought something over and I threw something in the bottom of it. As long as neither us has to post it, nobody really cares. Who gives a shit? It's fine. It's whatever. But if I posted a boxing video of hey, I'm going to bring this over to Steele's house and then I threw

something of mine in there that like I really wanted you to do and tagged you in it, you're going to feel obligated. Yeah, it's tacky. Okay. I don't know. I don't have a huge issue with it. That's like... Maybe that's where I'm at. Yeah. They have a sticking point again because they have a show and they want to talk about these things and they're going to have like issues with Jenna overall with some of this shit. But yeah, something like that. I feel like it would kind of hurt me okay i can see both sides of it i think the big thing for me that i couldn't get over is the way that sigh and then brin talks about it later about them wanting to push it to their followers i'm

like jena doesn't need you guys to promote herself really like jennon lyons is she don't know that i don't know dude i guess she's big like we are yeah we know that she's big she's cool but she's not you know Gucci like yeah you don't need to push Gucci on people like if it's a Gucci collab, sure, whatever, but it's a Jenna Lyons collab. It's not a J-Crew collab or whatever other big company that she wants to work for. I could be reading too far into it, but the next thing...

Maybe I think you're just a Jenna supporter. I turn a little bit this episode. Yeah, but the next thing they discuss is Aaron being upset, and this pisses me off. And this is why with Sai repeatedly week in, week out, it's two steps forward, three steps back.

Uba even says to sigh, yeah, that's shitty. Period. you shouldn't have left. Order a pizza. I love that move. Is it like, would it be a little weird for, like, let's say, you know, just for the sake of this being easy, Domino's walks in with a pizza. I understand if you're in New York and he ordered Domino's pizza, fuck you. But let's say Domino's walks in with a pie. Yeah, I'm sure people would have something to say. But to Uba's point, at least you're staying. Yeah. I think Cy's biggest problem in this and the other issues that we've had with her so far,

which have all been food-centric, weirdly, if she just explained it instead of nagging, instead of complaining, like, just explain where you're coming from. If you order a fucking pizza and they walk into the party and you have to run out and grab a pizza, come back in and Aaron comes over and she's like, why did you get a pizza? There's food here. And then explain it and say, hey, I'm starving. I'm a pescatarian. I can't eat this.

I decided to get a pizza because I didn't want to leave and be rude. Great. If Aaron had an issue with that, we would all look at that and be like, all right, I didn't shut the fuck up. Yeah, Aaron said it go. Relax. She stayed. She's good.

She didn't say goodbye. That's the biggest thing. And they all said hi to her like 30 seconds after Sy. Sye was leaving while they were splitting off to go say hi to Aaron. It's not like she didn't have an opportunity. She's making it out to be like Aaron's the asshole, and I have an issue with that, too. The biggest issue is that Sye goes, I apologized. When?

No, she didn't. You actually vehemently did not apologize. You made a point to say, I'm not sorry multiple times that you don't give a shit, essentially, and then you lie to Uber on TV again. And maybe they'll learn, like, as they get into this more and more, it's their first season. But like, hey, microphone, camera, we're going to see it. Why would that not be, like, if you were in one of these shows, wouldn't that be in the back of your mind all the time? That's when I always wonder.

I wonder if they say certain things, and as soon as it comes out of their mouth, they go, fuck. Yeah. I mean, probably. I hope so. But the next scene we get is Jenna and her brother Spencer. He's in from California, and they're walking around Rockefeller Center. And this is to my point. This is a credit towards me, I think.

Not me, Steele Russell. Just like, no, to like my argument. Let me clarify. Jenna Lyons is part of, like, rehabbing the Rockefeller Center area. Like, she's big enough to be helping out with a project of that magnitude. That's where I start to question, like, do she really need Bryn and Sye to repost her shit? Like, she's big enough to the point where she is helping out with decorations for the Rockefeller Christmas thing. She's helping out getting stores into Rockefeller Center to make it more approachable of an area to make it more, like, revamp it.

let me maybe you'll agree with this okay picture it this way she doesn't need it but she wants it because jenna cannot turn off the business woman inside of her that's a really everything she does is a business play that i fuck with that okay okay that one that resonates that just that just popped in so yeah that's good i like that all right we're see there you go the bro's on the same page today good but she's talking about she's never been on a girl's trip and we've heard this before this is technically the first real one because i drive up to the hampton is different than taking a flight to, we're going to have to figure out how to call it, like, what's it called, Anguilla.

What's called it Anguilla for now because they're calling it Anguilla. There's no way that's right. It doesn't even feel right. But maybe it is. But they're talking about going to Anguilla, and she's talking about how she's insecure about her skin, and we've already heard that she has a genetic disorder where she has splotchy skin and she does not like the look of it.

We find out later that it's also her teeth, like, fall out. Like, she has a lot of things that she has. to deal with, and obviously a lot of sympathy there. But as we get into it more and more, and obviously when we get to the trip later and the fact that she goes a couple of days early, while I do think that she obviously has to deal with all these things and it's a big issue that she has in her life and it's really difficult, and I'm sure it leads to an immense amount of insecurities and understandably so I would be insecure too.

That being said, she looks fantastic. She always looks great and she cares herself very well. But to me, it feels like after watching later that this was an opportunity to set herself up to look better when she ends up not going early and kind of does her own thing. I feel like Jenna is more calculated. And as the girls, I'll point out, much more of a diva than we actually think she is. I think that is absolutely sure. I think she's way more of a diva than we've been presented to see for the first seven episodes. However, I don't really have an issue with her going early. I didn't either. I have no issue at all because, one, I don't

think that any of the women are actually giving her sympathy on this because they're so honed in on the fact that she wanted to go early or she decided to go early because she found a business class seat instead of the coach seat. Secondly, if I had Jenna Lyons money, you think I'm fucking sitting in coach on a three-hour flight to Anguilla? Well, here's the difference. No chance. And I think this is what gets kind of lost in the sauce a little bit. Sigh actually calls attention to it later and rightfully so. I do not think the issue is going early. I do not think the issue is her taking a business class flight. I don't think the issue is anything that she did. I think the issue is not verbalizing it. Yeah. And it kind of relates to everything she does.

You know, when she had the Christmas thing and decorating her tree with her kids, hey, just say that. You can tell them that you're decorating the tree and you don't want to go to this event. That's a reasonable excuse. This is also, hey, I'm going to go down a couple days early and hang out. I'll meet you guys down there. I'm going to take a business class flight. I'll see you when you get there i think that part of the part of the issue is she decided and we saw that in that moment when uh aaron comes over and brings her soup she confides into erin and she even says like i've seen friend erin i've seen friend erin now i'm seeing mom erin i really want her to like give me a hug whatever i think she was confiding in erin erin spun the choice to make it a shady

i liked it i think it's good it plays for the show it plays for the show it also tells me that somebody that I thought has been so far up Jenna's ass to try to get under good side. I'm like, okay, Aaron. Like, you want to stand alone a little bit. When she got called out right away because Sai brought it up later, she goes right there and she's like, Aaron told us that.

And Aaron's laughing. Yeah. Because she knows what she did. And I think that that's entirely fine. I also think in this, maybe I'm not wrong. Maybe I'm not right about this. But I do think that Jenna needs moments like this

where she gets called out like that. I firmly agree. Putting your ass to the fire. Hey, you're in a group of women right now. This is what we're going to do. This is how we're going to talk about each other. If you confide in one of us that you didn't like something, we're going to tell the other person or we're going to give you the opportunity to do it yourself. When you don't do

it yourself, we're going to tell the other person and you're going to go on roast in front of everybody. Just get with the program, figure it out, and I think this is really going to kind of push her and we're going to be able to see towards the end of the season whether she kind of keeps that rolling or if she stays in her own shell. If she stays in her shell, she's going to have a hard time. I firmly agree. That's well said. The next scene that we have is Brin and her brother Daris and they're hiking in L.A. randomly. So I guess they meet in L.A. He works in Seoul, Korea, as a, or at an English school, and they meet halfway in L.A. because she's from New York. It actually weirdly makes sense.

It works out. Geographically worked out. But they're going on a hike, and it's just, it's interesting, and I'll always be interested in Brin's backstory and hearing about kind of the juxtaposition of how her brother handle it versus how she's handled it, and they both seemingly are doing well considering, right? they're doing pretty well given the challenges that they faced growing up. But she credits him a lot with like, you know, you're able to handle yourself so well and blah, blah, blah. He very quickly, he's like, I just compartmentalize better.

Yeah. The only difference between me and you is I bury it better than you do. And they both admit like, yeah, if I got married, I'd be divorced three times by now. He's like, yeah, me too. And that's the part of this that I had not really dove that far into is how her family relationships as a child is affecting her relationships now. And it seems like such an obvious one that I should have put together earlier. But once they brought it to light, and I was like, oh, duh, this makes so much sense why she gets so close to marriage, why she gets so close to taking the next step.

And then is like, oh, fuck, I need to back off. And she says it too. That's scary. Given what her experience is with family, family means run. Right. Yeah. And that makes a lot of sense. And I don't think that we even sat here over the last couple of weeks

and condemned her for anything like that. No, not at all. We at least try to operate from a perspective of we don't know the full story. Hey, we're getting a little bit of information. Thanks for sharing. We're not going to rip you apart and start digging into it and be like, well, you can't commit and that's your problem there. Like, no, we're not going to do that.

So we're going to sit here and we're going to actually analyze the situation and let things come out as they will. We didn't know everything that was going on. And now we kind of put those two together and there it is. There you go. Now, if we want to analyze her friendships because of that, you could do that because that's the most that we're getting. Now, I don't really know.

We don't have enough information to do that quite yet, but we're getting there. She's not bad. We're kind of getting a feel for how Bryn operates and how her psyche works. She seems to be one of those. Yeah, she gets really upset. But then she even says, I can't be upset at you when you look that good to Jenna when she was pissed at Jenna before she walked in the door. She was even trying to stay pissed because she's like, I can't ever stay mad because she does

the baby voice. And it does the clips of all the baby voices. I was like, oh, yeah, I never even noticed that. And that's fine, too, because we also see the way that she thinks about situations like she pissed off Aaron. She expects to be forgiven almost instantly because she's cute. And that's what she does. And the funny thing is Aaron has forgiven her a couple of times because she's cute. Like, it works out, I guess.

It does work. It doesn't bother me. It doesn't piss me off because all of these issues that she has, whether it's her being the perpetrator or not, they don't really bother me to begin with. So I'm happy that we're not. harping on them and people just forgive her right away. That's why it works. I think that's the key. That is the key because in other franchises, we would be stuck on this shit like Drew accusing Courtney of calling her a bitch for the last four episodes when no one cares, man. Everyone calls each other a bitch on that show on all

the shows they call each other a bitch. That was such a non-point. In this show, in Roney the reboot, if it's something dumb, they are able to get over it because, ah, you're cute, fuck it, whatever. Yeah. No, and I think that the only thing that's going to last from all of this, at least the best couple of episodes, is Britain flirting with Abe. Yeah. Because that's going to have to come back while they're in Anguilla. But they need to address that because...

They have to. I fully agree with that. I think, yeah, and I think that Aaron does have to address that, and I think they will. Yeah, and we'll get to that. But we get the two weeks later thing in all Bravo shows, take note, start giving us more timelines. And I want to jump directly to Jessel and Pavett.

We actually get... Because we've been pretty hard on Jessel up until this point, right, in her relationship with Pavit. We have not gotten to see And, you know, I will admit when we jumped to Not a conclusion, but when we Don't have all the evidence

And maybe we go a little bit harder than we should have Because we get to see something from Pavitt here I did not like Pavit in this evening At all I couldn't figure it out No, it was bizarre And I was like, okay, well, we were quick to jump the gun with Jessel and rightfully so in a lot of ways

Like I didn't love how she talked to him But we're seeing the other side of it now It's like Jessel's going on the girls' trip to Anguia, Gwila. Can we call it something? Can we have a nickname for it? Call it Angia.

We're right. There's no way we're wrong about this. Bang, bang, bang, and that's where we're going. Harder to say. Anyway, go on. We're going on vacation. And she's going with the girls in this trip

for a few days. Pavett's like, I'm going to Vietnam for a few days. Alone. Yeah. What do you mean? Weird. And then she's like, for what?

He's like, just to go. It's like, you don't do that. Three days? You don't. 20-hour flight? You're going to go for three days? What's the reason? If I told death...

For a Bond Me sandwich. If I told that... By the way, I guarantee you, it may not be as good as Vietnam. Probably really good, though. It's quite close. You're in New York City. There's going to be a fantastic Bond Me shop.

I promise you. I'll probably get it from a street vendor. That's the problem. They don't know the New York City. Oh, that's a good point. They're from Dallas. So he doesn't know where to get Bond Me. They go to Dallas.

No, the problem. Go to Fort Worth. He's going to go to Vietnam for a few days to blow off some steam. I don't understand how he can get away with just saying, I'm just going to go. If I told Dev, hey, I'm going to go on a little trip. I need to unwind.

I'm going to go by myself. Okay, where are you going? Vietnam. Yeah. What? I'm going to Florida to go sit on a beach and drink a little bit. I'm going to Anguia to go sit on the beach.

I'm going to the homeland. I'm going to go fly over to Ireland. They go sit around there and eat some potatoes all day. People got mad about that. You're going to piss somebody off again. We got so much. for that one comment you made about a potato like a month ago. Tell me I'm wrong.

But my point is, even if I wanted to go to Florida for a few days alone, and I told Dev that, she'd be like, that's fucking weird. And I would agree. If Dev told me the same thing, I'd be like, why? Who are you going to meet? That's weird. I don't like Patton. But he doesn't, that's the thing is, at least if he had

some hobbies or something, then I was like, oh, yeah, maybe he's meeting family or something. Maybe he's looking at an investment? Maybe other people are going, yeah, looking at an investment. I'm going to go, there's a really cool golf resort. I'm going to stay at it for a couple of days and just kind of like we're going on a golf trip right sure there's got to be a reason you can't say it's for food bond me it doesn't make any sense no bond you I actually there you go nice I actually thought that Jessel handled this quite well I think that she was I think she was as confused as we were and she didn't she didn't even like rip him apart like I expected she just walked away and she's like you're ridiculous I don't understand what's going on here and he is ridiculous and I bet he doesn't actually go I think he's going to really I think he's going to hear about it again Big sticking point.

No, I think we're going to come back to it. I don't think this is like the last we're going to hear of it. If we don't hear of it, we'll go on his socials and we'll see if he wants. I like that. He definitely posted a picture of him with a sandwich. He better have after all that. But my biggest problem is at the end of the conversation. And hopefully this was like a one-liner and they cut the rest of it.

But she's like, well, I'm here alone. Like, my mom's out of town. What am I going to do? He's like, ah, it's your problem. Yeah. It's your problem to figure out what to do with her two kids who are not easy children to take care of as we've seen. What do you mean? It's your problem.

No, no. If you are going to take it upon yourself to fly to Vietnam, which takes a day in itself to get there. But as he says, flying is like a vacation in itself. No, it's not. If you're going to take the time to do that, you need to line up child care. That's the least you can do for your life. And I didn't like that. And hopefully, again, hopefully he was joking there.

And like five seconds later, he says, I'm kidding. Like, we'll get a nanny for the week or something like that. But if that's his actual response, that's horrible. And we need to rethink everything with Pavit and Jessel. And maybe they just need to go their separate. I was looking at that too I'm like oh I don't really like this You guys aren't doing

Yeah it doesn't seem great But let's get to Ang Gila The house is incredible The house is absolutely incredible I thought immediately it looked like Greece And they even pointed that out It does look like a Greek like cliffside But the house is beautiful

And everyone's picking out their rooms Two things Two big positives once again for Jessel one she packs the lingerie says i lost some weight this is cute maybe i'll wear it i love that she has the self-awareness to be like i fucked that original interaction up let me pack the lingerie and like give this another chance here yeah big big move forward he's also trying to talk to jena a little bit more little one-on-one action you know what she's going to do this is the move i know that this already happens but jessel if you're listening the move is take the lingerie out put it on

your bed one night, call Jenna in to have a conversation, and then just see if she notices. That's a good idea. Yeah, you don't even have to wear it. But the other- I was thinking about putting this on, but I don't know if it's the vibe tonight and then just put it away. That's a good, good call. The other positive she gets when there's like someone to share a room, first one up, I'll do it.

Well, Ova was the first one up. Then she agreed. Actually, I think Ouba said Jessel will stay with me. And Jessel said, yeah, right, whatever. But the fact that she didn't put a plate. She was like, yeah, okay, whatever. Like, I like that. Those are big things, especially when you're coming off as a difficult person.

to get along with, massive step forward for Jessel. So good jobs. You had a good episode, Jessel. Keep it up. All right. I know what I'm going to put my foot in my mouth. I know it's going to happen next week. I think you're okay.

We'll see. But this is when the girls are recapping about Jenna and Aaron's given the rundown of what happened the day prior and or a couple days before, whatever. And they're talking about how she was going to come down to get a tan because she wanted to get her skin right because she feels insecure around the other ladies. And here's the thing. When you set it up that way, it's really. hard to assume you're going down for anything else because that's very personal and nobody's

going to question that because that'd be a dick move to question it. However, when you immediately follow it up with, I don't want to fly coach, that's when you're going to get issues with the crew. And I understand from Bryn's standpoint where it's a girl's trip, part of the trip is everybody traveling together. It's a whole thing. And that's where it's so easy. Had Jen had Jenna been like, I'm going a couple days early, I don't want to fly coach. They would have given her some shit. Yeah. But that would have been the end of it. I think her wording is the biggest issue here. Like everything she does, everything she does, it's either too wordy or she does some weird joke that only she gets. Like, I don't understand why she worded it that way when she was talking to Aaron.

She could have just said, yeah, you know, I wanted to go down a couple of days early and then go through the whole tan thing, go through the whole skin thing. Okay, great. And then say, you know, and it's a nice plus that it's business class and I don't have to fly coach. Boom, boom, done. Aaron might try to still spin that and say, well, I think that the real reason she came down is because she didn't want to fly coach. And she found one a couple days early. But then you can at least combat that a little bit and say, yeah, it would. was a plus that I didn't have to fly coach, but this is still why I did it. Instead, she

decides to make a joke about flying coach versus flying business class, whatever. And then when she starts to explain it, she gets so wordy and starts talking about some dog in Miami and all this other shit that it takes away from all of your credibility. I listed. I actually listed. Friend got a puppy. Miami surgery. Those were the three things that she had going on. And all you have to say is surgery. I'm Amy Nicholson, the film critic for the L.A. Times. And I'm Paul Shear, an actor, writer, and director. You might know me from The League, Veep, or my non-eligible for Academy Award role in Twisters. We come together to host Unspooled, a podcast where you talk about good movies, critical hits. Fan favorites, must-season, and in case you missed them. We're talking Parasite the Home Alone. From Greece to the dark night. So if you love movies like we do, come along on our cinematic adventure. Listen to Unspooled wherever you get your podcast. And don't forget to hit the follow button.

class don't want to fly coach period why i just got surgery why would i want to fly coach i'm already uncomfortable i don't want to be more uncomfortable that's boom and you are insecure about being around all the yeah the group is gorgeous every woman in this group is beautiful so are you yeah but you walk in the room wearing a fucking dress that shows off all of your skin well she got she was tan but here's my dude this is where i'm like okay well i feel like you're just setting yourself up to try to look better because if that's the case you've been talking about wearing a burka on the beach all week even if you did that's the thing she's saying i'm going down early to get my base tan that was already set in stone but even after she says that she's like but i'm still going to be wearing like

i'll be fully clothed on the beach the first instance that we get to see you you're wearing a dress that hangs very low in the back like it shows off a lot of skin there's nothing wrong with that she looks fantastic but have some feel dude your first interest back into the group when they get to anguila guila glula wear a sweater like sell it you know that's all just sell it's where i kind of battle with me myself about what jenna's doing and i can't tell because she did handle it a lot better than i thought when she got grilled she's able to brush and she smiled about it and i think even jessel came over and asked her if she was okay that was a little rough and jenna was like yeah i'm fine not a problem in the world like it's weird it's almost

like she anticipated all of that still had that shitty story about my asses me and a friend's dog or whatever the hell happens. But it just doesn't make any sense. And I guess maybe, I think she just needs to learn how to be with this group. I think she needs to learn how to be with a group of women. Yeah, I think that she thought, because this is the parallel that I drew, up in the Hamptons, Uber came up and gave her a dress and said, you really need to dress like this a little bit better.

You're very sexy. You need to show it off. You need to do this, that, and whatever. She probably in the back of her head, walking in here was like, I feel really good. I feel sexy. I'm going to put this on. I feel great. maybe these girls would look at me and be like,

whoa, Jenna, you look great. Those couple of days were great. Instead, she got the backside. So I think she just kind of has to feel her way through this. That's what I'm saying. But as long as she has the right attitude, I'm okay with it. As long as she doesn't start crying and running away and bitching and complaining about things, fine, whatever.

You just got to take your medicine, right? Yep, just got to take the medicine and move on. So that, but I think we can throw praise up to all the women in this group because when shit hits the fan, most of them do grin and bear it and move on from it. And I think we saw it again with Jen and we'll see what. happens next week as far as if she actually is upset or not but i think we'll move on just based off what we've seen i think we will too but i you know the episode pretty much ends with what we

were just voicing brin says like we just need jenna to be honest just be honest and that that'll make everything so much easier you don't have to throw up all these scapegoats and and copouts and even if they're not copouts they're going to be scrutinized because of how you're setting them up yeah But it's reunion season once again, and we finished our first season of Atlanta, which we both thoroughly enjoyed. Everybody else seemed to hate it, but we liked it. I loved this reunion episode as far as entertainment value goes. As far as talking points go, it was a lot of the same thing over and over again from different people. Yeah.

So we're going to jump right in, and I'm going to try to highlight some of it. But the first thing that I want to discuss, let's start with Shuron. Ray. And Andy calls her out for having some work done. He says you're glowing. And she says, I was having some problems breathing. So I went ahead and just had my nose done too. Now, if that was the original reason she got her nose done, who knows? No pun intended. Nice. She didn't even catch that one. I almost missed it. But this leads to like the big face, little face that continues to happen throughout the episode. And I don't know what that was big face. I don't think anybody knew.

swollen from the surgery? She kept saying, I thought she was talking to candy. Was she going to candy big face? I think she was calling candy big face. And then later she said, no, no, no. I meant my big face was swollen. And now it's a little face and it looks good. Okay.

But when she was in the moment, I thought she was doing that. And you can see Candy just really confused about what the hell was going on. And then Andy asked for clarification. And that's when she said, well, yeah, it was swollen and now it's small. Well, the thing about Shire that I've noticed about this season, and they talk about a lot, is she the bone collector or the peacekeeper and the majority of the group says both and I think that's the best way that's true because you see her a lot of the time try to keep the peace but at the same time she can't help herself but throw some shade out there which is actually part of the reason I really like Shiree yeah I agree

but as they start diving into like her season overall obviously a big talking point is Martel than like Martel in Kenya specifically and this is where it gets confusing because the way that she's talking and defending Martel and like their relationship Kenya says that Bob and Martel were cut from the same cloth. And as we know, Bob has a secret daughter named Candace that came out of the woodworks out of nowhere. But that's when Kenny makes like the womanizer comment. She says that Bob and Martel are both womanizer. Sherey still somewhat defensive of Martel saying that they're not dating, but they still hang out.

And apparently Martel has been throwing his dick around Huntsville, Alabama frequently. Yeah. We come to find out. So not great as far as I was trying to defend it. It's not great, but you can tell a lot by Sherey's reaction to that. She didn't seem surprised. No, especially when we said something like when we were together, revenge porn is a, what's the fucking word I'm looking for? It's a felony.

Yeah. Can't even bring it up. Shouldn't even bring it up on these reunions. People are throwing that shit around all willy-nilly. That's a good point because we see that in the, that was the interview with Rachel as well. It's brutal. It is a, let's reiterate that. It is a felony.

We are not going to speculate on it. No, we're not even going to talk about it. But you can set, like, I think Sherey's response was when he's with me and when we're together, everything's good, it's fun, it's great. You know, whatever he does outside of that, I don't really know. And she just kind of trails off. Yeah, she said. So you know that he's doing this.

I think that she's just like the companionship. I mean, look, objectively, he's a beautiful man. He is. So he probably is going around Huntsville out of that and just giving out Dick for free. Big Dick energy. That's what he's doing. BGE around Huntsville. They could also, it could be arranged.

Who the hell knows? She doesn't seem upset about this. She just seems like she knows what was going on and she took it for what it was and moved on and whatever. It's just a deal. We didn't really get like the whole how did it end? What happens here? What happened there? Like no, none of that.

It just gets hyper focused on. And I still do agree. How is it any different that Martel is in Kenya's DMs? But when you're talking about the guy that Marlowe went on a date with who Kenya is now dating, how is how is any of that any different and then Kenya gives the dumbest explanation ever he was in your DMs because he was commenting on a live that's not how that works nope we can not how that works any live that goes up there are thousands and thousands of comments if all of them went to your DMs that would be an absolute nightmare yeah you would just have to

burn down the entire Instagram just get rid of it but that's what bugs me about Kenya when she is defending herself right she she will say whatever when she's going after another castmate yeah and she seems to have evidence to her points. I'm not even going to say that she makes stuff up all the time. She is, she'll bring receipts and she'll give good examples. Like there were missing DMs from Martel to her that he absolutely on set.

Without a doubt. But my point here is when you go to defend yourself, don't just make things up now. Don't just make things up because we all, like that's what's crazy in a time where we have, everybody has social media, everyone knows how to use social media. You're not going to pull the wool over our eyes here. No. We understand how lives work. He slid into your DMs.

Roy, slid him. in to Marlowe's DMs. They went on a date. That happened. It's okay. It's okay. It's completely okay. I just think that Kenya is all offense, no defense. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, that's a really good point. And then jumping right off of that, they're starting to bring up Kenya's divorce, not being over. And this was one

of the funnier receipts I think I've ever seen because she starts throwing out, I guess there's contempt charges now, which is true. I sell an article about that. But her husband's trying to bring her up on contempt charges just saying that they put Brooklyn in a bad situation when Marlowe was kicking the door. And we commented on that when it happened. Like, yeah, that sucked to see that Brooklyn was in there.

But she says that Marlowe got subpoenaed. She goes, yeah, well, like she pretty much serves her. Like a, like, I thought it was a full on survey. I did too. I was like, wow, you got served. Like, wow, two servings a one year. She pulls it out. And hands it to Andy.

And I didn't know what they were. And they cut to commercial. I'm like, oh, my God, what's going to be? It's if you and I went to Google right now or, Shut up, Bing. Shout up Bing. And looked up subpoena paper and printed it. Pretty much.

No, not pretty much. That's exactly. That's exactly what it is. Even her cover-up was, oh, I printed out the wrong thing. It's like, no, you didn't print out anything. There's nothing there. No, it's a blank subpoena. Yeah.

That holds no weight. It holds absolutely no weight. But she said that she's going to be a witness for me, which honestly, hopefully Marlowe is where she could at least clear that up. But I don't think Marlowe would be vindictive enough to be like, no, I'm not going to be a witness for you in that. Because she can say, like, yeah, we were filming a show. The only way that she wouldn't is if Kenya keeps running her mouth about this and keeps going after Marlowe. Yeah, that's a good point.

You can't paint somebody who could be a positive witness for you in a negative light. Why would Marlowe want to take the stand for you to help you out when you're being an asshole to her? Well, I agree with that. It doesn't make any sense. The flip side of that is Kenya is talking about Marlowe's relationship with her ex, Mark, I guess not her ex or her husband. Mark, and I'm confused about that too. And it's also interesting because Marlowe seems to now have a relationship with Ralph after the fact.

Is she, like, does she wheel and deal to try to get the dirt? Like, that's what I truly think that she does. I mean, it could also just be negative allegations that are just getting thrown around. They showed the clip of her with Kenya's husband, and she does seem rather comfortable. I'm not saying anything's going on like that. I'm just saying to Marlowe's character, I don't know. I could see her being like, I mean, I mean, I. get a little dark.

I could see half of this cast doing something like that, though. They're always looking for a little bit of dirt. They're always looking for a little bit of a leg up on somebody whenever they get into an argument. I think the best part about all of these arguments is they will yell and scream over each other and just keep going back and forth with crazy insults. And then they'll both laugh it off. Yeah. They'll sit down and they both laugh it off.

Yeah. I don't know. I'm actually kind of bummed if they reboot it that we're not going to get like the follow-up to some of this next season. So I'm curious what they're going to do because for all intents and purposes, it was a good reunion episode, but the next thing they're talking about, it's kind of Sherey versus Candy, and I didn't know that these two were at odds as much as they were. Neither did I. Like, I thought they were okay. I didn't think they were friends, but I didn't think that they were fine, not to the point where Candy's calling her a low-down nothing-ass bitch,

which is a new favorite line of mine. I'm going to start calling you that, but they keep going in like back and forth and back and forth, and to one-up candy, we get She News, which is fucking hilarious. Amazing. And I wish that we had a copy of She-E's, news. It even looked like laminated or just like really good. It's such a funny thing. And like I love how prepared Sherey came because everybody comes with their envelopes, right? Kenya whips out this little piece

of paper that has nothing on it that she just pulled out from nowhere that was in some weird envelope. Shiree has a full thing going on. We're going to get more next episode too. She's got so much shit going on there. It looks awesome. There's so many different things in there. She rips all the ladies' fashion choices

throughout the year. She rips all of candy's restaurants. She throws in negative headlines. it is so well put together that even Candy was laughing at it. I mean, you had to laugh at it, but it is interesting, and this is what I think happened. I think that Shrey watched the season in its entirety. It's all the behind the scenes of Candy. And, like, Candy's M.O. for at least as far as we know or watching the season, she'll say a lot of, like, little comments in the confessionals.

Like, she'll throw a dig here, a jab that they don't feel like overly mean. No, not about anything. It's just like a little dig. It's just candy. But it seems like those got saved up by Shray because, She gets so sensitive about she by Sherey, and she's always defensive of, you know, it being a legitimate company and all that shit. This she news was aimed pretty much directly at Candy. The first six pages are at Candy's restaurants and all the bad headlines that they've gotten.

Yeah. And then the last two pages are aimed at tags her store and saying, like, this is being sold for $975. And at your store is for $65. It's like, well, we don't know the parameters. It could be like a what's those? What a consignment store? Yeah, it could be anything. But it is nice that she finally gives Drew her bag, her she-by-sure bag,

because that was a whole thing. And this is when we get into what this episode was mainly about, and that's Drew. And this is what the season was about, was Drew. But the first topic is the pass, the movie that she did with Candy and Todd. And I'm glad that the first thing they brought up about it was the lifetime or above thing. Because this movie's on Peacock right now. I'm not saying it's, you know, Oscar-worthy. It wouldn't be on Peacock if it wasn't entirely.

the candy, though. Absolutely not. No. That doesn't matter. No. Because it is on Peacock. Like, there's going to be, hopefully, residuals and stuff like that. There's going to be kickbacks from this movie. In my mind, Peacock, direct to Peacock, is lifetime adjacent. I would say so.

You know what I mean? Like, that seems like the same thing to me. And I don't understand still why Drew would take that shot at candy when she's doing her favor, putting her in her movie. Like that's... Yeah, that's still kind of the same type of thing that we saw with Heather. It's just

they think that they're so much higher up than they are. You're on a reality TV show. Yes, you're on for 15 weeks a year. There's all this shit going on. It's a huge show that a lot of people watch. But it says absolutely nothing to your acting career. No. Legitimately nothing to your acting career.

So the whole scapegoat of, well, my agent was going through offers that I got and she just threw that one out because it was only 10K. And then Todd gave me a call the next day and said, hey, you know, what's going on? Do you want to do this movie with us? I don't know if you saw the offer, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, I wanted to do it because, yeah, I just wanted to do it as a friend. But, you know, 10 days to shoot an entire movie is pretty rough. And I just don't think that I could do that again, because usually I get a lot more money than that.

What do you mean usually you get a lot more money? What have you done? Nothing. And you can't akin it to you being, you know, 16 years old on a, on a Disney show or something. Like, that doesn't make any sense. That's 20 years ago. It's just not how that works anymore. You can't get paid the same way.

It's not like all of a sudden your rate goes up with inflation over the last 20 years. No. It's not. She's doing you a good favor. There's no way that you would have been in this movie or had anything like this movie that would be on Peacock now. If you weren't on this show, just take it. Say that you're doing a favor to a friend, and that's fine.

When in reality, she's doing a favor for you. I guess that's the way I look at it. Candy did her a favor. God did her a favor, not vice versa. Drew seems to think, look, Drew, you had a good year as far as your career goes. You're singing again, like your music videos out there. You got an acting role. You got the lead in a movie.

all positives. Chalk that up to a win. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. That doesn't make any sense to me ever. But this is what leads into drama between Kenya and Drew. And when Kenya saw the disparaging remarks that Drew made about Kenya's acting career while she was watching the season, she tweeted something out about it, dragging Drew's career, saying like, you know, when your career was dead in the water, like I didn't say shit about you, which is partly true. But if you look back during the season, Kenya was talking shit about Drew's production for her music video. saying that it was like a dollar store production pretty much or a knockoff Beyonce video, whatever.

That's the same thing. And this is what drives me nuts with Kenya. This is why everyone's like, why don't you like Kenya? You guys are so hard on Kenya. Because of the double standards, because of the hypocrisy. It is the same thing.

You shit on her. She shit on you. It's the same exact thing just because you got your feelings hurt more, maybe, or I don't know. She did at least kind of apologize? Sort of. She said it was meant to be in jest, which I do think it was meant to be in jest.

I don't. I think that, well, I think that Kenya does a lot of things in jest, but it doesn't mean that they're not mean. You can't make a joke at somebody's expense. I think that she leans. I do think she makes a lot of jokes,

but I also think that she leans on the I was joking thing when she was not, more so than other people. But moving on from that, we start to dive into the Latoya situation. And Candy says that she let it go originally. So we saw that little clip of Candy's show and she was talking to Drew and, or sorry, she was talking to Latoya, I guess,

about the kiss. and she said, you know, I thought I saw it. If I didn't see it, maybe I was wrong. And we all saw that at home and went, oh, well, maybe it didn't happen. Candy then goes on to say, like, no, it happened. I know it happened. I did that to smooth it over to just move past it. Makes sense.

That does make sense. And I trust Candy. But when we start to dive into it a little bit more, right? And Marlow starts to question things. And then Candy's like, I know for a fact that it happened. When we start going through it, nobody actually did see them kiss at least that's what i got from they saw their faces close sure they saw arms around each other sure now do i think that this is a big deal i do not do i think

that it takes this level of investigation to try to get to the bottom of this i really don't i think that it's like a ho-hum whatever did they kiss didn't they kiss i don't know but there's no permanent like there's no like actual yes i saw like mouth to mouth yeah and again it could have just been completely avoided if drew didn't make such a big deal out of it of it. But the other part is that she lies all the time. She does. She lies all the time. But again, you and I are sitting here saying it's not that big of a deal. Originally, when they brought it up, everybody said, oh yeah, it's not that big of a deal. Like, we just thought you kissed. We were joking. It was just like for fun in the middle of this conversation when we were

talking about that trip. You could have downplayed it then and not made it such a big deal, but because you harped on it episode after episode after episode and you were going after Courtney who was supposed be your family. And now everybody loves to say pretty much what we said all season. You met her yesterday she's not your fucking family move on who gives a shit but you go back to that and now of a sudden you're condemning her who you said was your cousin and now you're going after her because she said bitch over and over and like that's a whole thing now it just didn't make any sense you could have just left it alone and it would have gone away yeah which by the way Courtney doesn't do herself any favor she will bury herself oh yeah did towards the end of the season like she

started off shit she had a good midterm because she didn't do much and then ended terribly She is the villain of the season pretty clearly. Everyone else just had their own beef with each other, but I think Courtney is who you would tag like the actual season villain. Probably Ralph, actually. No, I mean Ralph, yeah, Ralph. Ralph and Courtney, but again, there you go.

Like the Ralph and Ralph's quote-unquote cousin are the problem. But it's just interesting because every like tie within this group seems to be severed. Like Drew and Candy are completely at odds to the point where Drew's like, I understand now why Ralph left. You probably gaslit him. and she questioned her sister's mental illness because she's like, you lie all the time

to the point where I don't know if this is true until she got proof from Allison herself. For somebody to say that they don't believe you about a mental illness until they see that person in person is a scathing indictment of who you are. That's a scathing indictment of your character, and that's when Drew's like,

what have I lied about? What have I lied about? It's like you go through even this past season, there's examples. And clearly from seasons that we haven't said, And this is not the first time we've heard that Drew is a liar. But she ends her shit with candy and goes, I just want to know if we're cool now.

Fuck, no. Not even kind of. You guys are not cool. Because of what has just transpired on this stage, you're probably not okay now. No. Because you had a chance to rescind you shitting on her movie. You doubled down.

You had a chance to smooth things over with her. You did not. But let's finish this up. Let's tie a bow on it with Ralph and Courtney. All right. So we find out the connection that Courtney has to Ralph. It's her dad's sister,

aka your aunt. I love that. Every time. That happens in every fucking show and I never understand. Why is that a trope? Why is that a Bravo show? Just say your aunt.

Yeah. Your aunt is married to Ralph's uncle. There is no blood. Nope. There's no real relation. And here's where my theories start coming in. Okay, we talked about Tampa

during the news earlier. Am I going to sit here and make a bold claim? such as Ralph is hooking up with his cousin? No. Damn, I thought you were. Could I see that being true? Aps of fucking looting.

All right. Lean into it. Go bold claim. I did. I thought that was like me setting it up. Ah, that was half-assed. Look, I could definitely see Ralph strikes me as the person that would like look at Courtney and be like, damn.

Like, I want to like make this work, whatever. I want to like find my way in there. Would explain why she's around so much. I'm just saying if you look, you start to piece things together. Again, it's a bold. claim, I get it, but not really because they're only related, like, halfway through marriage kind of. Like, she's the unverifiable

cousin. I don't know what... There's a removal in there. I think when there's no... Twice once removed. Sure. Who gives a shit, though? But could I see that being a thing? Absolutely fucking mootly. Like, there's no doubt in my mind that could be a thing. There's no doubt in my mind, because not even for really what Courtney's doing, although she is standing up for Ralph a lot more.

And again, that still goes to that way. It's weird. It still goes to the weird family thing that makes no sense. But also, because Ralph's a huge scumbag. He's a huge scumbug. Yeah, that could possibly happen. So immediately, my head goes there. And then when you say things, like, we became fast and furious cousins. You know where my head immediately goes?

I'm like, oh, gross. Family. Fast and furious. Family. Family. Corona. Corona. Family.

But it is good news to see Sonia is four months pregnant, I believe. Yeah, she said she's due around Christmas. Christmas day, she said she's due. So that's amazing. Good for her. And Ross, we love to see that. I'm glad they're doing well. Obviously, after sharing a very traumatic.

miscarriage with us, the audience, and the world. It's nice to see that they are on the come-up, so good for them. But it ends with a lot of question marks. And we get Courtney defending Ralph to Drew, which is wild to me. It's absolutely wild that she is now on Team Ralph when she doesn't, like you said, there's no involvement there. That's when I start to question things. I'm like, how close are you at?

I guess the same could be said about the other side. There's no involvement with her and Drew. Drew's been an asshole to her. So why would she defend Drew? Right. Defending Ralph? Because Ralph's nice to her? I don't just don't get involved

I'm not condoning any of it I'm just saying you know But she of course she's going to get involved Because she's on the show And she wants to have a spot next year I understand that But like as you start to dive into all of Drew shit Like the question marks

Is she dating Ty Young? Did she have a thing with Ty Young? She says that she was a crush on set Could that have been blown up Because of Ralph and Courtney? Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense To me if you have those two idiots On the sideline like oh like Drew's

Doing all this nonsense like Although it seems like it's not I mean there's top of Boyed pictures of the two of them out together still. If it was just an onset crush, you're not still hanging out with that person alone. But I guess the speculation from Courtney and the way she's going about, especially with that quote-unquote, off-camera moment that we got where she's like, yeah, like adopt the kids so that she can go hang out with her gay lover, like fucking horrible thing to say. Yeah. And I'm glad, you know, Drew pissed me off this reunion, honestly, because she really didn't take a whole lot of accountability, which she hasn't really all season.

And she's in a position where she's kind of slighted, if you not kind of like Ralph has. It was a fucking monster. So you could have came into this much more, like, peaceful and much more calm instead of trying to defend yourself to candy and then burning that bridge with candy. This last instance, like, I'm glad at least she dragged Courtney for talking shit about her kid. Like, that's fucked up. The adoption thing is fucked up. Courtney is the sleeper villain of the year, honestly.

Could be. Honestly, could be. I mean, we're going to have to see because next week it looks like Ralph is coming out, which is going to be wild. I can't. The fact that he's even there is crazy. Then they're going to have Drew perform in the middle of the reunion, which apparently she just walks away and starts crying from.

I don't know. It's just the whole fucking, the fact that we're only getting two episodes is wild. They're going to have to put together a lot of things next week. Hopefully we're really in for it, and we have a ton to talk about because really what we're talking about now is just speculation and the way that people handle arguments and did they burn a bridge here because it's something they said. and it's really tough, like content-wise, to cover all of it. Like I said, or actually, like you said in the beginning of the review,

it was wildly entertaining. It was really fun to watch, but we didn't get any new information. We just got some hatchets being buried and some hatchets being uncovered, and that's pretty much it. Yeah, that's a good way to. Hopefully next week's a little bit more core to what we've been dealing with all season, and we get some answers. That takes us to the question portion of the show from Daria PNG is Carla Coward.

That's the first one I read to. Why is Carl a coward? We don't know. Here's my thing about the Carl Lindsay stuff. We have no idea what's transpired on either side. It's really interesting to see on both sides, people jumping to everybody's defense and dragging the other person. When we do not know, like, we have inklings and rumors on this side of it.

Like, Shooter and I, we get to hear like a couple of things that you guys don't. But that being said, when I tell you that there's stuff coming from both parties, we really don't know what happened. Like we don't know who's it. I have no idea. I've heard that it's amicable. I've heard there was cheating. I've heard that everything was put on display on the show. I've heard that the mom is the reason that they, there's a lot of speculating. The show one kind of bothers me a little bit because I'm worried that they're drumming up ratings by doing something on the show and then we're going to watch and we're not going to get any of the story really. That's fair. I don't know. I think they, I don't know. I don't know. I will see. Yeah, we'll see. But I don't know. I don't think it's a

Howard. I think there's not enough evidence to point at anybody. From Mr. Jared Barnes, our friend Jared, do you think low ratings and reboot rumors made the ladies put on this reunion performance? Possibly? No, I think... I mean, this is actually exactly what I expected from an

Atlanta reunion. Kind of all over the place, but wildly entertaining. I feel like next week we'll get a little bit more answers and it'll be a little more pointed. But for the most part, I think it's just going to be wildly entertaining once again. So I don't really think any of them are putting on a show. necessarily, except for maybe Courtney.

But again, this is like her first reunion, so you never really know what to expect from a newbie. I feel like everybody else was kind of their own person. They didn't really jump out at me. No, it just, again, it was not a lot to discuss, but really entertaining TV. Moving on from B... Oh, man.

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To criticize Jennifer Not sharing hers There's more to life than the physical things that you own Wow Be germs Be germs Shooter's gotten deep on you From Jen Robles

This is just a funny one Never watch the old Roney Cool Thank you Oh, there's a follow-up to that Oh Yeah, there is She absolutely loves the new Roney

Was tired of the old hags JKK But I really never watched the old Roney Okay, no No, that's not as fun Jessica Brandberry And this is a good one Did Shooter ever see Barbie

And that brings me to my final point Barbenheimer We need to pick a date I don't know if these movies Are still in theaters They are They are, so when do you want to go? Ideally, probably during vacation, would have been a great time to do it.

I needed you to coordinate with me. Let's say next week. Loosely next week. Loosely next week or the week after. So get your last minute applications in. I'll be reaching out to a few people to let you know that you've been not selected, but you're in the running. Yep. And then we will make a decision.

We'll handle it down. I have had so much going on like end of summer. I totally forgot. Yeah, no. We settle down in the fall and we watch our TVs because football's back. Football's back, baby, and guess what? For the next, hopefully until February, you are going to hear the Eagles theme song

in every fucking episode. 22 weeks. Starting on Friday. I'll give you a reprieve today. But after that, fly Eagles fly. You got anything else? Nope. All right, go birds.

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