Bros & Shows - Garcelle is Gone, Rachel Returns, RHOBH is Back(pt 2 of 2)(RHOBH Premiere)

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

What's up Bros? THIS IS PART 2! ROB HUH is back and we are taking a new approach. This show has been a thorn in our side for years, but past experience be damned we are going into this season as positive Peters and trying to look on the bright side of things. Rachel makes her return and it seems like she may be a good addition to the show. Boz and Dorit's friendship has continued to grow and it is nice to see Dorit with an ally that is not Kyle. Sutton finds herself out on an island and the obvious prediction is that she will migrate back over to team Kyle. Erika is poised for a solid season as the Tom stuff (and her renovations) are in the past. Hopefully we get a little more personal life from her this season but time will tell. Kyle has a nice scene with her daughters and we're optimistic that this will be a different season for her. Are we fools only looking at the bright side of things? Maybe we're just tired of being hurt. Who knows. But buckle up Bros because its Rob Huh Time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Let's do it. Let's go to Rachel and her kids, and she's talking about her ex a little bit to us, not the kid. And this is where I didn't remember his name. So I just wrote, oh, young Klaus. Hello, Klaus. because it sounded rich and it was close enough. Come here, Krauss. But you get dyslexia and you just kind of saw it on the screen.

You're like, uh, Claude. Probably. That eye looks like an L and then just move it over. Yeah. I mean, because it's like close to Christmas. I'm like, ooh, Santa Claus. Yeah.

Sandy Claus. But we get into the divorce a little bit more. And she is saying a big reason that they got divorced was because they started working together. And you then see this multiple. scenes of just budding heads you know him look he's coming off terribly again i don't know much about roger i just know that these scenes make him look really bad and it makes it seem like it's his fault so that is interesting to note but yet again we get one of my favorite tropes on bravo is these young kids that act like they're like fucking 45 years old yeah because she's talking to

Klaus and she's like so uh how you how you feeling i thought you guys you know most of divorces are rough but it's been okay this kid's 11 years old it's like dr phil do you think that's a product of maybe like family therapy or is the divorce uh epidemic just running rampant in southern california so classmates and the kids that he's friends with they're all going through divorces. He sees what they're going through. And he's like, it's not really that bad. I mean, I could be worse. My friend, my friend around the corner has to go to fucking Utah every weekend.

That sucks. But I get to at least hang out with you guys. Or Teddy's dad's living in a strip club. So at least. Yeah. Stuff like that. Teddy's dad missed his birthday party because he stopped at the casino on the way. Yep.

He lost my birthday money and my college fund. Yeah. No, I think it's just, you know, as a child, divorce as children of divorce i think you just grow up a little bit faster you know i think you just mature a little bit quicker but she's like do you like any girls and he's like nah my hormones haven't kicked okay cool fuck do you know that what the fuck no not yet scientifically no and the biggest issue that we have with roger currently is that he seems to care about spending more time with his girlfriend than he does his kids. And I would say that we don't, there's two sides to every

story, this and that. How Klaus was talking about his dad confirms to me that that probably is what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably what's going on. Even just the fact of I still get to spend my morning with you before I go to dads, right? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Clearly, you know, there's a divide there and there's a preference. I'm going to hold out judgment as long as I possibly can. I don't think that we're going to get her ex-husband on screen i don't think he's going to be able to tell his side of the story which is fine i don't really give a shit i don't really give a fuck but i'll reserve judgment until the older one skyler until because he's 14 so if i mean if caius is 11 spouting off shit like this this you know this older kid probably is red socrates and plato and he knows

what the fuck's up he's going to give us a full breakdown on what the divorce was no so crates he's gonna to be like, what's Garcell's, what's is it, was it Jacks or? It was Jacks, yeah. Is he the one that's like, seems like he's 30 with a degree in psychology? Yeah. When he talks, that's, Klaus is the new, the new him. So we move on to Bose and Erica Jane. And we've gotten a lot of clips of Erica Jane at Hoopla.

She performed over in London. But after she got done on stage at Hoopla, or right before, sorry, I think she was about to on stage, she said, Tom called her, because he'd just gotten sentenced, as we know, he was sentenced to, I believe, seven years? What is it? Yeah, seven years in jail. And understandably so, she's like, yeah, there's a part of me that wants to say goodbye, like get that closure, but are you going to get closure if he is going through dementia

and all those other things? Like, is it really worth it? Now, obviously, there's a lot of questions about that because it looks like he's going through it. It looks like he's got this ailment, but then the judge deems him mentally fit to go to trial, so was it all was he just trying to play the system?

Who they all knows? He's a slimy character that Tom Girardi, but I understand where she's coming from and saying like, yeah, you know, closure would be nice, but probably not worth my time, which no, it's not. And the Jesse Solomon rumors continue to

circulate because apparently she had hooked up with a bravo lib at was it bravo con or was it somewhere else it was in new york yeah maybe after a watch what happens live thing yeah okay and that he who must not be named was jesse solomon allegedly which if it is confirmed she just confirmed that he uh doesn't know what he he ain't throwing down in the bedroom like the least surprising thing that i've ever heard to be honest now jesse also had a terrible bravo con where they were talking about how Bravo started and are you excited that Vicki Gundelson is back?

And he said, I don't even know who that is. Oh, no. Like, he had a really bad Bravo con. So he is plummeting. This is the least surprising news that I've heard from any of this. But I don't know. I mean, maybe Eric is dating.

Maybe she's going to talk about her personal life. I'm excited about that because Eric is beautiful. She's got a lot going forward now. She's gotten out of the fucking woods. Talk about that. Go start dating. do some things. I don't say, like, I'm not going to say that I need to see you on a date on camera. It tends to be pretty awkward when we watch those first dates, but just do something

else. Have a different personal storyline. I don't want to go back to your pool house and do the rehab of all the, the wallpaper and the fucking chandeliers that are getting put up there. All of that is boring and sell to me. Talk about your dating life. You're somewhat rich. You live in Southern California. You're a notable person. You're hot. Go on dates. Show us things. That would be fun. And then also throw some shade of Jesse Solomon. That works. Now, I will say while you were going through, I did look at the lineup for Hoopla. It does fall off a cliff after the headliners. The headliners were Sierra, Sierra, and yeah, I don't know why I did that. Sierra, oh my God, dude, Sierra. Sierra, yeah, what's wrong with me? I don't know. Sierra and Kesha. And then afterwards,

Erica Jane is also in that top tier. So that kind of tells you everything. you need to know. Oh, no, I got to look it up. Saturday's lineup was Sierra TBA. I don't know who that is. And then Jojo, which, get out right now. Yeah, dude. You don't know who G-Flip is?

Nope, no idea who G-flip is. Probably a DJ. All right. The majority of them are DJs. But anyway, good for her. Still doing the tour thing. I like that at least for her musical career, it's not just more, I did a show in Vegas. uh this show in west hollywood like okay yeah we're bopping around a little bit or traveling i like

but bose and e j start discussing sutton and obvious departure and everything and i will say there is some merit to this when boz is like her close relationships just seem to grumble it's like it's hard to argue that just based on actual facts and evidence so that is interesting to note what is not worth discussing is you know she came to the reunion and she was like a church mouse. Yep. Yep. And she will be next year, and she will be the year after that. That's what she does. She's every year. I just hope, and we talk about this when we get to Kyle's house too, that Doreet doesn't just see the low-hanging fruit, doesn't just see the weak link and go after her again. We get nothing from that. Like, congratulations, Doreet. You finally got a backbone and you're

standing up for yourself. That's incredible. Sutton is irrelevant. You don't need to go after Sutton just let her do her own thing the whole time her and Jennifer Tilly it seems like they have a falling out at some point I don't need that I need to read to kind of mature to the level of calling out Kyle calling out Erica which it looks like she might do as well that's what we want I don't care like when you go after Sutton it's just boring that's really all it is yeah I agree with that what I don't like one is framing this season as we need to hold Sutton accountable don't do that don't do that

doesn't work. It's not entertaining. It's not fun. That's why I got scared when Bose said that. It's like, yes, that is true. That's an interesting point. Do not make this a long storyline. Do not make this, you know, we got to talk about all the things that are going on in your life. Because then it just turns into, and we've been using this a lot recently, but it turns into going after Stacy on Potomac. It's like, yeah. Why? What's the point? Like it's tired. We're done with it, except it's at a much, much lower level because we are not connected. to Sutton like we are to Stacey. So it's just going to be boring and it's going to look stupid. Yeah.

And she has no support now either. So like this would be. Leave her alone. It's just not worth it. It doesn't make any sense to do that. And at no point should we be saying this about other people because Bose repeats the line that she had last year where it's like, would the real slim Sutton please stand up? And Eric is like, slim? More like box.

Like don't fucking do that. Like that's gross. It's mean. There's no reason for it whatsoever. And to Sutton's credit, she looks great. She looks great. I also don't get the box comment because she, I don't either. She is very.

Yeah, slim makes all the sense. And it's just not that body shaming is so stupid. And it just tells me that you're not intelligent enough to come up with an actual insult. So do better. That's dumb. And we're headed over to Kyle's. But before we get there, Sutton and Kyle have a quick face time. And I wrote right here.

now that Carcel's gone, she's going to be out Kyle's ass, which is what I expect to see this season, which again may not be the worst thing in the world, unfortunately, because it'll be more cohesive. But with Sutton and Derrete, obviously there's a lot of tension there between these two. We watched it all last season. I point the blame at both of them because it was overblown by both sides. They got into stupid arguments repeatedly. I will say Sutton cast the first stone in that sprinter van when Derreet was just trying to be nice and she went after, after drinking.

Too many screwdrivers in the morning. Okay, that, that will happen every time. If you're crushing orange juice and vodka before 10 a.m. Every time. Guilty. Let me tell you. Check on me next week when I'm in Mexico. Screw drivers in the morning.

I'm going to be guilty. Just don't get me in a sprinter van. That's the thing. I'm going to ride my own sprinter van. Confined spaces after screwdrivers always lead to tension. Everybody knows this. Although I am. kind of excited to do that and then go swimming in the ocean maybe find a crate at the bottom

of the ocean and I just come up for breath don't forget to breathe okay and hopefully you find something to breathe when I'm like going to sleep you ever do that um no but I do I do have the thing where you think about breathing too much and yeah oh god you have to like physically try to breathe you know yeah usually that happens when I take a gummy it just happened now and now I'm doing it. Damn it. Oh, damn it. Usa. Usa.

But, uh, oh, you weren't in. You didn't come with us for our senior trip to, uh, Puntacom. No, no, I didn't go on. Oh, my God. Flannery would wake me up every morning with a Bloody Mary with a 151 floater. See, I don't like bloody marries. Oh, I love them. Oh, I feel like it's like a soup that you drink.

Yeah. If you're hungover and you force down a double bloody Mary, not double in size, but like, obviously double in vodka, but I'm just making sure people are thinking, like, oh, yeah, drink more tomato juice. That'll make, that'll feel good. Yeah, because that's the only, that's the only downside there is like the hard one's real. But it just shocks your system. Then you're like, all right, let's fucking go.

That could also. Maybe it does. Yeah, no, that can definitely lead the bad days. I think my problem with it is it's cold, but it tastes like it shouldn't be cold. I know. That makes sense. Yeah. It's like a spot show.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, like Spacho soup, burnt my mouth. What do you mean to burt your mouth? He's cold. I expected it to be room temperature. Yeah, but I personally was a big Bloody Mary fan just because of that. Just wakes you the fuck up.

Yeah. Where the hell were we? We're headed to Kyle. Yep. We're headed over to Kyle's. Faye Resnick is there once again, making another appearance. I don't know if they're working her in as like a unpaid friend of. We're just like, ah, she's a familiar face.

We'll throw her in there. She's always around. Yeah, she wants to be relevant still. We can get her in for a, as like an intern, unpaid intern. Friends that looks like a Walmart to reap. Let's just get here. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know.

Keeley is there. We both really like Keeley and Keeley and Bose. My God, what a striking couple, you know, just a beautiful couple. And it sounds like things are going well for them. They're headed towards engagement, hopefully, and moving in together. which is a shame because I hope we keep Boz's house. I love Boz's house. I do love Boz's house.

Yeah. I hope we keep that in some way. Yeah, I don't. The wallpaper selection is awesome. They're engaged now. So that's cool. Oh, yeah. I love Keely.

And Keely's comment on the ride over about are there going to be any other guys here? Are they bringing their men? What men? Thank you, Keely. That is a glaring issue on this show. Yes. It is, and it's funny to note. And, yeah, we, Keeley's just a man, you know?

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No, no, no. No, we're not doing that. We're just like not doing that. Just there's no reason. I would honestly say, and I'm going to say it right now, you won to read you had a good reunion showing as you always did but at least you pieced together some semblance of a good season last year for yourself then you showed up at the reunion sutton didn't show up you won it's over carcel's gone too you don't have to deal with carcel anymore and you don't have to worry about doing microaggressions towards carcel and then getting called out for it later you can kind of rest a little bit there's no reason to go after sutton i don't care if she does anything to you just batter away just batter away you're stronger housewife than Sutton as you are right now understand where you are you are in a different tier go after other people there's just no reason to go after Sutton so I'm with you

I was a little scared I'm like we're three come on just yeah you're better than this I think too easy it's way too easy to try to go that route yeah and Sutton arrives and dorit actually and I wasn't sure if it was shade I don't think it was but she's like oh I'm really sorry about the annulment I heard that you you were surprised with that in a way that only Sutton can do reaches out to shake her hand. Yeah. I don't know why. I just don't think she knows how to handle herself in those situations.

I think she got awkward but wanted to be nice. But I think, but I do think she was trying to be nice. Like, hey, let's touch each other because that'll be nice. I don't know. And Doreet obviously like, whoa. Yeah.

Whoa. Like, dude, just shake her hand. Like, give her a high five. Dap her up. Do something. Like, this is good. something because what this does right if to read can and this is where to read falls short so many times and we'll continue to always i believe i don't think she can fix this issue i think she goes

fuck there's my storyline like i can't i can't shake we can't be cool right out of the gate like we got see where we go from here but i can't just shake your hand at us you know how great it would be if she just shook her hand and said okay that's we're good like just be good good to start and then if some new shit comes up sure do what you got to do but this would have been such a great starting point to just be like clean slate whatever last year's a wash let's move forward pk's gone garcel's gone we're both in different places than we were a year before let's just move on that would have been great yeah yeah that would be great and i just don't see jareth doing that and again i think she's trending in the right direction i think she's getting something done

and she's starting to become a housewife that can actually kind of hold her own water. But you got to let go of some things. You've got to be able to move forward with certain things. And she has to understand when to recognize, okay, I'm done. Okay, I've done enough. Don't beat a dead horse and then just move forward. That's what we need to read. She's not capable.

No, no, not right now. No, we'll see where it goes. the next topic of conversation is Garcel, obviously. So they're trying to figure out like what happened. Multiple women ask what happened. And Sutton would have done herself a lot of favors if she had a good answer for this. But she doesn't. She says, I don't know.

I don't know. It's like, you know, last time I saw her was she walked out on me and the cast. No, no, Sutton. You walked out on her. And then she left you standing at the altar. that's what happened. She looked to you for support during the reunion because all she did on her tenure on this show was support you. Then when she needed you, multiple times throughout the season, you weren't there. She gave you a chance at the reunion to step up. She looked at

you multiple times. Say something, do something. Defend me. You didn't do it once. Instead, you started to lean into Kyle's side again. So she saw the writing on the wall. She realized you're not actually her friend and she fucking bounced because she has more going for her than this show that's what happened yeah i i do wonder if her approach as i'm the victim here garcel walked out on me she ghosted me we were best friends we spent all this time together we spent so many intimate moments together i feel like i'm betrayed things like that maybe for the group she's hoping it lands with them it will like hey guys i'm here with you i didn't walk out i didn't leave the show i'm still trying to mend friendships i'm still trying to move forward with you guys but garcel couldn't handle that so it's

sort of like it's a light version of a group hate session where it's like okay fuck garcel she's not good enough for our show she had to leave us high and dry and she doesn't want to talk to any of us what is she better than us yeah that's sort of what you would expect on a show like this but she's not going that far which is okay in my opinion but i think that she is playing the victim right now, whereas I think it would go a long way, not only for a potential future friendship with Garcell, but also with the audience, if you took accountability. Like, ah, yeah. I mean, I hear what a lot of people are saying.

A lot of people were talking about how I didn't back her up and then I rewatch and I went back to the reunion and I realized I was really quiet. I was in my own head. I was dealing with a lot of things. I had to answer for the things that I did all season. I feel really badly about that. I didn't really do a good job about addressing. to read about certain things that she brought up. And I was just gone. I was just completely

out of it mentally, did not stand up for Garcel. And I think that she took that as me not standing up for her. And I'm sorry, and I wish I could take that back. I think that would go so far with the audience, it would be like, oh my God, look at this accountability. How about that? And then Garcel might even look at it and say, thank you. That's all I want it. Because I do think that Garcel's a reasonable person. And I do think that she probably does have good moments with Sutton. Maybe it's not the best friendship. And I do think that, you know, a lot of it's convenience. I don't really want to hang out with everybody else on the cast. I'll shoot my solo scenes with Sutton because I can tolerate her. That's sort of the vibe that I was getting. But if you do something like this, it goes so

far. And instead, I think she's worried about who's in front of her, not how her actions can impact others outside of the show like Garcell, like Avi. She's taking the approach of, yeah, I don't really know what happened, guys. I mean, you're right there too, Erica, like she unfollowed you, you unfollowed her she hasn't responded to any of kyle's messages i'm in the same boat guys we're all in the same boat together can we just get on the boat together and go somewhere and be happy and nice that's all sudden ever once she just wants everybody to like her but then she does things that make her unlikable so she's her own person she's her own demon and she can't get out of her own way and i do think that if you did that one i think maybe the rest of the cast would respect you too

because if you're saying i didn't stand up with garcel i didn't stand up for her when you guys were coming after her. One, it would be a good storyline, too, because then you're standing on your own and you're still defending somebody who's not on the show. And two, somebody like Erica, who we know deep down would look at a sudden and go, that's a good friend. That's respectful. Instead, they're going to their confessionals, making snide remarks about how your life is crumbling around you. All of your personal relationships are falling apart because of what you're doing. And you're still doing it. So you're still going to get back to that same place. You're not doing yourself any favors. Completely agree. I'm glad that she at least had the wherewithal.

to be like because somebody asks and this was such a dumb question yeah do you feel like it was more of an alliance it's like no it wasn't no and i'm glad that she one gets emotional at the question and it was like no i don't look at it that way nor should you that's not what it was like you said it might have been convenient at sometimes because garcel didn't want to film with those other idiots but at the same time there was genuine friendship there we all saw it so glad that she didn't do that And Bose is obviously surprised they're not talking. And it's statements like this where I'm like, oh, that's not great is when she's saying like the fallout from this friendship, which it's good, she's acknowledging that it took a long time for her to be in a good place. But when you say things like it took me months to be quiet and remember who I am, it's like, so you're saying with Garcel, it's not who you were, which means that who you are is who you were with Kyle before Garcell.

who we didn't love. Is that what we're saying? Or is it just like, maybe I'm stand alone now because my one friend is gone? No, I think it's, I took it differently anyway. I don't think it was,

I was being fake with Garcel. I really wanted to just get close to Kyle because we all know that that's what she really wants. That's her goal. But I took it a little differently where it was in the past, I've lashed out. In the past,

I've said a lot of things that have hurt me in the long run. I decided to just stay quiet. at this time and just kind of like let the chips fall, which is very different for Sutton to do that instead of, you know, taking initiative, which always just shoots yourself in the foot. I feel like that was a different approach, probably a better approach. Like, I'm not going to talk about any of this until I can like kind of rat my head around it. I don't know. Again, I think it's inconsequential because at some point she's going to say something

that pisses somebody off. Yeah. It's Taylor's oldest time. And you can tell the group is excited about Garcel being gone for Sutton because they're all excited that Sutton's solo now. Like Kyle even says, like, you know, the Sutton I saw before, like, I didn't know who that was, but like now, now I know who Sutton is, like, she's solo. I'm excited to see where that goes. All she's saying is Garcel's not here to remind Sutton that what's going. Like, that's all that Garcell did, by the way. It wasn't even shit talking, really.

It's just raised questions. It's selling Sutton. hey, why are you so agreeable when Kyle's walking all over you? That's what she did for Sutton. So it's like without that, yeah, she is going to crawl back into your pocket, Kyle, which, you know, whatever. But Rachel arrives and I guess her and Bose have gotten close. Bose went on her podcast and they got pretty tight from that.

What I don't need for the rest of this season, I'll be a hater right now. I'm done with wacky Kathy. I'm done with, oh, she's pulling pants out of her bag. Like, whoa, she's using a knife to look at her eye line. Like, I don't need those little quick cuts to Kathy. I'm fine with them. They always bother you. They're just like, because it's not real.

That's not who she is. And I don't believe that for a second. We see her come out every once in a while. We're going to see it later this season. She tells somebody to remember their place. And I think it might be Amanda, at least how they make it look. Yeah. That's Kathy.

She's very, very intuitive. She's very smart. she's not wacky Kathy that pulls pants out of her bag like whoops didn't know these like that's not who she is so that's why i get irritated because you see who she really is every once in a while this is not it but such a funny gripe that you have every season for cat i will continue to have it because i do i will not stand for it i think it's stupid it's such a small part of the show and it pisses you off every time yeah it drives me nuts it's like who you fooling lady not me not pulling the wool over my eyes I'll tell you that right now. But we start talking about kids, you know, which is a risky route to go. It's Doreet's kids and everyone has a opinion on when and what to tell your kids. I don't believe there's a right answer to this. No.

I believe that you as a parent decide what's right and then you carry out whatever you decide, such as you look over at Potomac. Stacey and Timu just got back together. They're not telling Bella exactly what's up, but just that things are okay. that's the route that they decided to go. This is the route DeRite is deciding to go. All right. So shut up,

everybody. You don't need to have an opinion on this. But she's saying that Jagger seems to have figured it out. Like she hasn't flat out told the kids. We saw that last season. He was already talking to her about, you know, where's daddy going?

People are talking on. I think she even said that he was online or something, like on Twitter. Why is daddy kissing the nanny? No, wait. It was a funnier story. It was definitely a funnier story. He was on like Roblox or something.

it was like it was a question about what's going on like what fuck are we doing here i i agree with you i think that there is no right approach everything's going to be different however durit decides to do it is how durit decides to do it i don't think it really matters and i love when other people have opinions on other people's kids and it is funny in a group like this because a lot of them have gone through divorce and a lot of them had kids in the midst of it so they're all going to have different answers sometimes they'll line up a little bit more with the others but again it doesn't really matter because it's none of your fucking business yeah yeah exactly and they talk about pk some more and the moe stuff and apparently somebody tried to set rachel up with moe in

askin or something which is wild and i think she went on the date is what it sounded like to me it kind of sounded like it but i think she left a little bit of room for somebody's opinion like let's just kind of leave this as vague as possible. Did I go on the date? I don't know. She didn't go to her confessional and say I actually did and I didn't really want anything to do with them so I don't think it's necessary for me to tell anybody.

She's just kind of, again, this kind of goes with the territory of her understanding how these shows work and what's going to get aired and what's not. Yeah. Playing things close to the chest. And I think we're going to see a lot of that moving forward from her. I agree. I agree.

And they all comment on the fact that P.K. got Mo fired up. Mo got P.K. fired up, all this back and forth, like, oh, yeah, PK saw Mo, and then Mo's PK. And they just want to be out there smooching in front of cameras. That's all they want to do. From the darkest corners of our imagination comes a game show that's more ridiculous than terrifying. Welcome to Tickled to Death. I'm your host, Roz Hernandez, and I'll be guiding guests through the creepy questions and chaotic games, all to win the ultimate title of horror movie champion. Listen to Tickle to Death, wherever you get your podcasts, and hit follow

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unquote professional partier. Mm-hmm. That dictates some things. That indicates a lot. Yeah, that indicates a lot that Eric is the person to say that about the difference between P.K. and Moe and when Moe and Kyle split up, all we saw was Moe partying in Aspen, that he was in the Hamptons, and he was behind with Kyle Cook, and we saw him in Abiza, and he was doing all of these things.

Ibiza. To me, to me, that said Moe is out there just living his single life. and like okay good for him if that's what he wants to do i wasn't thinking about what level of partying because we had that conversation with kyle last year where mo was talking about his trip to europe and how i i forget which one of their daughters he met up over there but he spent a couple days with her and then he went right back to a visa or he went back to the south of france he was at raves and stuff yeah he was at raves until four a m i'm like jesus christ i can't imagine doing that he's like close to 60 at this point doing all those things that's wild

to me. The fact that we now have to view PK as a professional partier and Mo being like a kindergarten level soccer team with PK being the Premier League based on what Erica said, that changes a lot of things. That is wild. So I assume he's drinking again. I assume he's just going balls to the wall. And yeah, I think we're probably in for a lot more PK trash talk and a lot more pictures of him doing things. I'm here for it. I am totally here for it. But, But, yeah, the implications of, it implies things, like maybe what he's doing when he's partying. That's where my head goes. Do with that what you will, allegedly.

Yeah. And it wraps up with Rachel, and I'm okay with this. I think this would be an interesting way to look at this season. And maybe that explains the trailer being, you know, destination, destination, destination, destination. Rachel wants a hot girl summer. She's like, we need to go out minimum three nights a week, Kyle. Yep. Cool.

I'm very down with that. If that's what we're going to do this season. Get Kyle out of the house. Get her out of the house. Get her to go on some dates. Get her to go out there and have some fun. I actually do think the best recipe for success on a show like this, start off the season having fun.

I want everybody. And it seems like they are kind of in that place. It's not going to last. But I'm fine with that because that's how it should play. I agree. When you start a season off, everybody on this episode at least seems to be getting along. They seem to be agreeable. They seem to be cordial for.

all of the things that are still spilling over from last season, if you can find a good foundation of, we all kind of like each other, we like going out together. And then it crumbles after like four or five episodes or somebody has an issue. And then we start seeing sides develop. That's okay. That's how a housewife season should go. It's when they do the one-on-one things and everybody just kind of recuses themselves in the situation. Like I really don't care if Sutton and Doreet are having a spat. It has nothing to do with me. I'm going to go back to my house. That's what we've seen for the last couple years. We need everybody to kind of be on the same page for a little while

and then everybody to fall apart. That's the best way to do it. Get involved, everybody. But let's see what the audience had to say about. Let's get to some questions. All right. First up here by makeup underscore LAB. Why do all the women say they're confused about Garcell?

The audience isn't. That's a very good point. We're starting off the season with them talking about. And again, they have four months of perspective. Everybody online saying essentially the same thing. Garcell's saying the same thing. And yet we're sitting down very confused about what happened with Garcel. I do not understand that.

I do. This group is the opposite of introspective. No one's able to look at the situation and go, were we wrong? No, couldn't have been. Funny question from Blacksmith, Trev. Which is better in your opinion? Beverly Hills or OC? Beverly Hills.

Right now, Beverly Hills, they're pretty close, but I think Beverly Hills is still better. right now. Beverly Hills doesn't invoke as much of an emotional response out of me. Yeah. Yeah. Elliot from Orlando asks,

are you as annoyed with Sutton already as I think the rest of us are? Not yet. No. I know that we'll probably be annoyed, but not yet. Georgia Fuller says, did you find it a little boring?

I had to stop myself from reaching to Doom Scroll. That's going to happen. It's going to happen on a Beverly Hills show. No comment. We're being positive. We are being positive. Come on, though.

From It's Sin, will Erica have a storyline and will it be all about Tom? No. No, no. I don't think so. Unless she goes and visits him at some point this season, which I think is actually kind of captivating. If she were to go, like, sit down with Tom, I kind of want to watch that. I don't think that he would be on the show.

But I'd like to see what the aftermath is. Yeah, I wouldn't mind that. somebody or talk with us in the confessional. I'm completely fine with that. But no, I think that we're just renovating her house. Agreed. I think that we saw pretty much the extent of it.

We'll probably get more moments like that where it's just a quick mention. Like, oh, he just went like, he got transferred today to prison. I don't know. Yeah. The amount of people asking us to compare it to OC is funny. Rage.

0.84 said, is it going to be better than OC? J. Bay the Hut 713. Is this a worse hate watch than Orange County? No. Not yet. No. we're love watching this guys

come on yeah oh god yeah I'll just end it on a statement from health godder the opening of the episode was giving Love Island intros yes it was that's what you were talking about that's what I was discussing but I'm trying to see the bright side of it because it's Hollywood

movie magic or something we'll see if we can maintain this this demeanor that we have so far I am hopeful but who the fuck knows with this show in this case i don't know i don't know this may turn into a hate watch but yeah time will tell time will tell but that's all i got you got anything else nope that's our show bros got to go we'll get right back to the rest of our episode but first a few words

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