Bros & Shows - Get Jackie a Gatorade, She Thirsty (RHONJ Full Recap)

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

What’s up Bros? This week on RHONJ, the Gorgas are throwing a housewarming party and everyone’s invited (minus Teresa). Tensions are still high between the Fudas and Tre and Louie after last weeks... failed lunch meeting. Danielle and Jen Aydin still have some beef to squash after Jen continues to bring up the Luna debacle. Dolores’s mom and daughter tell her it’s time for Paulie to pull the trigger and get divorced. At the Gorga’s party, things take a turn when Dolores delivers Teresa’s ‘housewarming present’ in the form of a liquor bottle. I’m sure she had no alterior motives with that one… as the night continues, Fuda is still airing out her grievances with Tre when Jackie decides to get involved. Apparently she has forgotten all the issues she herself had with Teresa, or maybe she’s just excited to hang out with the cool kids. Either way, tough showing for Jackie as she tries to talk to Dolores about not tagging her in a post, but “didn’t talk smack” only to have Marge send Dolo a screenshot of Jackie calling her a f-ing slob. Do less Jackie… but all in all not a bad RHONJ episode as this franchise continues to stumble along. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:15 Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For Everybody, for everyone's to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Shooter McGuder. What's up, dude? Keep it simple.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Yeah, keep it simple, stupid. That's what we like to do here. We like to keep everything nice and simple. You ever get a, I'm just going to go right into it? You ever just get a stain on your shirt and just have to sit around all day on it? A lot. Yeah, I spill coffee on my shirt frequently. It's actually pretty frustrating.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And I don't know when I entered that phase of my life. At some point, I became a coffee spiller, and I drink a lot of coffee, as you know. Yep. But, yeah, I have multiple shirts that I love that have coffee stains on them, but I still wear them because I go to the gym. Yeah, well, coffee's a tough one too, but I don't know if it's like our motor skills are maybe diminishing a little bit,
Starting point is 00:02:06 like in the mouth region. Perhaps. But actually, that's not what happened today. I got to work and I, I'm still getting used to the commute, but I had a smoothie. I wanted to put some ice in the smoothie under the top, put the ice in, splashed up on the shirt.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Within two minutes of me being in the office. Oh, you put ice in the smoothie. At the office. Got it. Yep. Because the ice that I had put in before, had melted. Well, that seems less like a motor skills problem.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Oh, yeah, no, I just, that was a different, that was a different conversation. That was, how hard did you drop the ice cube? Like, what distance? Ice machine. Oh, you stuck it under. Just the button. I couldn't have told you that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I tried to stay. I was actually being aware of it. I took a step back. It was just a little early in the morning. Yeah. You weren't like thinking it through. Correct. Plus long weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yep. Okay. I'll give you a pass. It's still suffering. Honestly. At least you're wearing a green shirt. Yeah, it kind of, kind of blends in a little bit. Is it a green smoothie?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Sort of. Oh, was it a little purpley? It was, no, it was strawberries, but that is the spinach makes it a little green. Yeah, no, I understand how colors work, but. I'm still learning. I'm trying to figure it out. Everyone always forgets, colorblind. You're the only person I can say that to, and it would be a problem.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, I forgot. You're super colorblind. I forget frequently. But, hey, you look great. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks. But if you have not listened to it yet, and if you're not watching House of the Dragon,
Starting point is 00:03:24 we just dropped our first ever branch out from Bravo. and that was a House of the Dragon recap for the season premiere, which was spectacular. If you're not watching House of the Dragon, I don't know what you're doing with your life. But we'd also mention that episode, and I think we should do it on one of our Bravo-centric episodes. I know more of you are listening to this one.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yep. We have been mulling over, could you say? Mulling it over? Molling it over on a potential. I would say a decision is just about to be made. The decision's been made. Yeah, it's more... The decision's made.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, it's more like rolling it out. I wanted to let them know, like they, I feel like they're going to feel left out of the process. Okay, fair. Regardless, we have decided that because we want to branch out, we want to be able to explore more shows, movies, whatever's going on in the world. We have a lot of interest, and we want to share that with you guys. Bravo will forever and always be our number one. Don't you worry about that. We will still cover all of our favorite Bravo shows, all of your favorite Bravo shows.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's not going anywhere. but we want to be able to explore other shows from other networks. So we have decided that we are going to change our name. Would you like to share with them what this name? It's very different than what you're used to. Yeah, it's going to be a huge overhaul just trying to rebrand and figure all of this out. Yeah. So brace yourselves.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Everyone take a deep breath. Deep breath. If you're driving, maybe pull over. Yeah, sit down. I don't want to cause any accidents out there. Yeah, just pay attention right now. Pay attention to the voice that's speaking. to you. It's confusing.
Starting point is 00:04:58 The bros. I know it's a lot to handle. I know. I'm so sorry. It's very different than what you're used to. But we figured that by having the name the bros, you guys all call us the bros anyway. So it was fitting that this allows us to explore more content. And that's all we want to do. Provide as much content as we possibly can to our beautiful baby birds out there. We want to give you guys as much content as you can possibly handle.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And by branching out, it gives us the opportunity to do that. And it makes us sound dushy, which is exactly what we're going for. But the good thing is somebody reached out online. I want to give them credit. What was their name? I believe it was Erica that emailed us. Let me double check on that. Yeah, Erica reached out to us with a couple of ideas.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So it seems to be, I suppose, being met pretty well. Yeah, yeah. People have received it well that listened to the House of the Dragon episode. Erica gave us some decent ideas as to how to brand our episodes and brand ourselves as well. We love feedback. Feedback is great. If we implement that, we will give you credit, Erica. You know what we're talking about. We're not going to share with everybody, but you know
Starting point is 00:06:03 what we're talking about. Also, Steele, I just realized you're legitimately wearing a Provros t-shirt. I know. It's like a send-off. Oh, yeah. And we don't know when we're implementing the name change. It'll probably be in the next couple of weeks. But just to give you a heads up, if you see the logo change, it's not going to be drastically different.
Starting point is 00:06:19 We're still covering everything that you know and love. We're just adding more stuff to it. Correct. And it gives us a lot more flexibility when it comes to, as you all know, there are shows on Bravo that we plan and plan and plan for, and then they absolutely suck. Or they don't get a reunion. Or they're not being renewed. So nobody's really watching. This allows us to do other things and a lot of the interests that we have. You guys also have based on the feedback that we've gotten. So don't worry. If you also have any sort of suggestions, you want us to watch something,
Starting point is 00:06:51 we'll probably watch it. Maybe we'll even talk about it. So there you go. So we're super. Super excited, and a little follow-up on that is if you haven't joined the Bravo Bros members yet, go ahead and do that because we are launching our exclusive episodes next week, and that is our Bromance episodes where we're recapping rom-coms. That is also somewhat of a test run, and if you want to be part of that beta testing, if you will, we are rolling those episodes out to our faithful, our Brov Bros members, so that they can hear our Bromance, our rom-com recaps, and see how they do. If they love them, we're going to roll those out in the main feed eventually,
Starting point is 00:07:25 not for a little while. So if you want to be involved in that process, sign up for Brab Bros members. Link is in the bio, $5 for the month, $50 for the year, and get ready because the bros are coming at you. It's no different. We say that anyway. It's the same shit. We don't have to change anything. We like to keep it easier on you.
Starting point is 00:07:43 We do. Keep it simple, stupid. Kiss. Kiss. Kiff. I was doing the Michael Tyson. Michael Tyson. Michael Tyson.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Oh, my God. I don't think I've ever heard of Michael Tyson. Michael Tyson sounds like Mike Tyson's twin brother that works in an office. Yeah. Or it's a state farm guy. Michael Tyson. They should just do that. Why don't they do that?
Starting point is 00:08:05 Michael Tyson? Mike Tyson be the state farm guy instead of Cliff Paul. It's Michael Tyson. Michael Tyson. They've moved on to whatever the fuck his name is now. State Farm? State Farm. That's, um, God, I love him.
Starting point is 00:08:16 He's so, uh, damn I just had it. Um, J.K. Simmons? J.K. Simmons. K. Simmons. That's a different. I think that's farmers. Farmers, yeah. We are insurance. Why are they all farms? Jake from State Farm. Oh, well, yeah. That's obvious. I thought it was. What do you mean that's obvious? You just said that it was J.K. Simmons for a different agent. But Jake from State Farm, he got invited to like the finals. He was sick. He's getting a little too
Starting point is 00:08:44 powerful. Oh, you want to take down Jake from State Farm? Yeah. It's like when Flo got too powerful and she was on every goddamn commercial. Like, all right, go away, Flo. Now she's okay. You're a hater. Yeah, well, I hate commercial. Make that money. I hate commercials. Jake from State Farm, that has to be the best story. He's like a commercial actor. He gets this job with State Farm, and now he's Jake from State Farm.
Starting point is 00:09:04 He goes to Super Bowls. He goes to NBA Finals. It looks like you're just... It's a little much. Is that a green hue from your shirt, or are you green with jealousy, sure? Sure. Sure. Michael fucking Tyson.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Let's get into this episode. I will say, starting out with this episode of Jersey, this was a decent episode as far as, this season goes. I enjoyed this one, actually, for the most part. I liked some of the family scenes that we got throughout it. And I did appreciate the ending of it. I think that the reasoning behind it is really frustrating and annoying, but I actually appreciated that we had like a little bit of actual drama at the end. But what are your thoughts on it? Snoose Fest. Really? Well, look, I know you love the family scenes and stuff. They do nothing
Starting point is 00:09:53 for me in this show. For other shows where there's actually good things going on, like a Miami, I'm interested in the family scenes because it humanizes people. I don't give a shit about anybody on the show anymore. So you can do that and like, look, you're either a person I don't like or you're a boring person that I just don't care about and you're going to do family scenes. I'm like, I don't really care. Like, just get through it to get to the point of what we know is coming and it came at the end of the episode. I don't know. I still hate watch this show. Yeah, it's, look, it's tough. And I'm trying to find the silver linings as we go through it, so I'm not just miserable the whole time.
Starting point is 00:10:26 This one I actually enjoyed, so I'm going to try to enjoy the ones I enjoy. I'm not going to knock you down. No, I know. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. But, you know, it is what it is. And we will get through this season and hopefully it picks up. Maybe there is some semblance of hope that you'll understand why there's no reunion
Starting point is 00:10:41 and this season like builds up somehow. Did Bravo pay you? I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't want to hate watch every time. Don't get me wrong. I still think this season's a flop and they need to redo every. going on. The one thing I want to ask you, they said that if they do a reboot, apparently Dolores
Starting point is 00:10:58 is safe, Fuda is safe, and Teresa is safe. Now, with those three at the helm of the show, let's say they wash everybody else, everyone else is gone. Do you think that there's any makings there for a decent show, if they bring in the right kind of people up front? Yeah, for sure. You think that could work. I think they have to bring a good mix of the people from the past that were on the show that
Starting point is 00:11:18 know how this works and some new people, maybe some friends that we've seen in the past, or friends that we know exist. They have to rebuild this because, again, you're either somebody I just absolutely dislike. There's one person on this show that I absolutely hate, worst housewife of all time. And then you're just boring. So, yeah, no, I'm okay with those three. And look, I know Fuda is doing the absolute most right now. And obviously, that comes with John Fuda, who wants to be a housewife.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Not crazy about that. But I get it. And I think that it appeases both sides in the sense that we're not going to have people coming out of the woodwork, just bitching and complaining. because Melissa is not anymore. If you're watching this show and you realize or you think Melissa wants to be there, you're wrong. He just doesn't want to do it anymore. I'm curious if she doesn't want to do it or if she doesn't want to do it if Teresa's on it.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Like, would she be more into it? And that's the thing. We've said that many times before. And you know I don't like Teresa, but there is simply no jersey without Teresa. Like she is the show, whether you like it or not. I don't like it, but I can admit it. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Well, that's what I said last week. week where if you do it, you either need to scrap everybody and just rebuild from scratch or you have to keep Teresa because she is Jersey. Yeah, and if you keep Teresa, you inherently can't keep Melissa because then we will keep the same cycle going. So look, what that report come from? I saw it on a few different pages on socials. I don't think it's corroborated.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It's not hammered home yet. But I will say when we get these multiple pages posting a similar thing, they tend to have at least a semblance of truth to it. So I would imagine we are getting a cast shakeup That plus the lack of reunion Plus the lackluster seasons that we've had I think it all adds up It makes sense plus just the housewife realm
Starting point is 00:13:02 As a whole right now They're rebooting fucking everything Atlanta's in shambles Kenya got the boot from that Because she decided to post posters Of another castmate Giving a blowjob which is fucking crazy Like that's the level that we've gotten to on these shows
Starting point is 00:13:16 That's not fun or funny But without further ado Let's dive into this episode and we start out with the post-meeting of Teresa and the Fudas and Louis. And here's the thing. If you go into that conversation, you have to assume it's going to go the way that it went. Right. If you're one of the Fudas, in my mind, I'm taking whatever I can get so I can just move on from this whole thing without causing drama.
Starting point is 00:13:44 You got the most you're going to get out of Teresa. Do I think she handled it great? No. Do I think the Fudas handled it great? No. but she did apologize, even if it was backhanded, as they kept saying. But for me, it's just you're not going to get anything else. So do you want to, that to me tells me that they want to just keep furthering this thing.
Starting point is 00:14:03 They want to keep furthering it, and they want their face on cameras at all times. And look, if you're John Fuda and you want to be a housewife, you have to understand. That's about as good of an apology as you're going to get from any housewife. Oh, especially Teresa. Especially Teresa. So I actually like it because, they do show, you know, scenes from last week, whatever, and they pull it back in. When food, it doesn't accept that apology, Teresa's actually shocked by that.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Really? You don't accept that apology? That's what we do here. You don't get this? You just say, okay, and we move on. Yeah, like, we're supposed to just be okay. You take this bottle to my brother. He throws it in the fire or something, and we move on, and we just keep doing the same thing. I don't understand where you're coming from with this. The emphasis on the bottle pissed me off, too, on Teresa's side of things, because they're leaving. She's like, and they left the housewarming bottle. It's like, that, that, think that's a fucking plant anyway. Yeah, the manipulation. Shut up about the bottle. And then Louis goes, well, hotheads don't end up anywhere.
Starting point is 00:14:56 They don't end up anywhere. For all intents and purposes, he's a successful man, John Fuda. Like, he has ended up, so he's doing fine, regardless of your opinion on him. So that doesn't make any sense. Hotheads don't end up anywhere. He's there. He's doing pretty well. So that doesn't land either.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I just, they both bothered this shit out of me, but whatever. We move on from there, and we get to Dolores, her mom, and Gabby, and they are having their family lunch. Every Tuesday, family lunch. I like this scene, especially for Jerry. Because it's Dolo. Uh-huh. Yeah, Dolores' scenes with the family always worked because we always like Dolores.
Starting point is 00:15:30 So this was a good scene, and they're discussing Frankie's girlfriend, Frankie Jr. Frankie's got a girlfriend. We all like the girlfriend. We love that. Lolly, the dog is sick. We got a lot going on with the Catania. A lot going on. A lot happening, so I'm glad we got to check in.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Frank's about to propose any day now. And I love that Gabby throws a little shade. It's like, well, he shouldn't be waiting, hint, hint. And then I love Dolores' mom. She is fantastic. She's like, look, I'm just saying, by the way, we've been saying 10 years. It's been more than 10 years. There is no excuse.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Well, it depends who you ask, because it's probably 15. And then Dolores brings it down 10, 12, 14, I, you know, whatever. I think she said 14, 12. So I'm going to say 15. Let's say they got, they separated officially 15 years ago. it was like, you know, sank in in 14 years. So at 13, how about that? Call it 13.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I'll land on 13 for Dolos sake. Yeah, Baker's does for Dolos sake. But there has been speculation, and we talked about it a couple of weeks ago. Are they still together because of businesses? Is that what's going on? Now, there's a lot of rumors out there, some of them darker than others. I'm not going to say those ones. I'm just going to say, if they were in business together and that's,
Starting point is 00:16:47 what's going on and it's just a messy divorce that they try to break up assets that makes a lot of sense to me especially if he's going into business with dolores and he's claiming this is and that was kind of weird to me too that dolores agreed that's a bigger commitment than an engagement i'm like well not really i mean monetarily i suppose yeah no the rationalization didn't make a whole lot of sense especially in her confessional versus her talking to her mom and her daughter because you see a little bit more behind what she actually feels about this saying i don't really really know, you know, he's not an electrician, I'm not an electrician. You let a guy come in and he's going to bring you in on business.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Yeah, they love their money, things like that. It's like, I don't really know what you're trying to do here. Saying the business is his child. Yeah. Similar to introducing him to the kids. A lot of really weird analogies being made with this just to try to save face. What's electrical work? Wires.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Just this man is a mystery. Dude, he's doing electrical work in Jersey. Wires, yeah. that's that's where I'm going with that but I look I don't know I just love the scene with Nana because as soon as Gabby says something it goes right over Nana's head oh yeah I didn't even know what you were talking about right over my head yeah course yeah but if it may it actually makes a lot more sense for what you're talking about if there is a messy divorce going on here and we still have these scenes because then you've got the battle of Polly's not going to share
Starting point is 00:18:13 the information like that on camera Bravo wants them to talk about it more because it's a sticking point that we need to keep talking about this. So they're going to force Dolores and her family and Polly to sit down and have this conversation 50 different fucking times when legally or we like to throw that around with Bravo legally I can't talk about it because it's being
Starting point is 00:18:31 held up in court. That could actually do what's happening. They're not in court. Who knows? They're not getting divorced yet. They haven't started the process. Exactly. So maybe he doesn't want to do I don't fucking know. It's just, it's getting to the point. Actually, it's past the point now where I'm tired of it. Well, yeah, if you get more info then yeah. More
Starting point is 00:18:47 info or at least a breaking point for Dolores where she and we sort of saw that last week at that lunch but maybe we need a little bit more that's the only way that I'm going to start moving on from this is if we get more emotion out of this because right now it's just stagnant well it's just to be like the the same conversation of Craig and page and I was going to say that too yeah it's the exact same same thing yeah well when there's more info to give us ask them or let them tell us until then I don't need the same runaround conversation. It's not working. But we move on from there. We get Teresa
Starting point is 00:19:20 and her family and Nicholas is getting a haircut, which is actually a very nice and touching scene. But I need to point this out in every single scene that they have as a family. They say the word, they love bomb us. They love bomb us. And I am so sick of it. They're in their bubble. Fuck the bubble.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Come on. They're in the bubble. I said that a million times. Fuck this stupid bubble. A woman's still in that bubble from that love bubble party. Somebody check. on her they oh my god yeah is she still in the pool she's dead she's still just floating around in that pool that's only an inside joke to you and i i know well it could be honestly people but we did talk about it a lot during the love bubble was i wonder if anyone remembers that yeah what we're referencing there i'm not even going to say it hopefully you do you let us know if you know what we're talking about but my point is they have to make it a sticking point to be
Starting point is 00:20:09 like i love you oh i love you so much i love our family our family's the best that's not me being facetious. Those lines were all said within a two-minute scene of their son getting a haircut, which was a touching scene. It was a little down-the-lane thing. Nicholas, do you love me? I love you. Oh, I love you, too, Nicholas. Aw, I love you, Teresa. Aw, I love our family. Oh, I love her life. Like, what the fuck? I don't care. I don't care. Like, the only thing I cared about was Nicholas getting his haircut. That part was touching. Everything else is fake. It's all just, this is how much we love each other.
Starting point is 00:20:43 We're the best family on this show. which is, again, a dig at Melissa. You don't care anymore, but you're making a point to say that my family's better. There was a point in time when we were actually just happy that Teresa was dating someone. Do you remember that? I do. I didn't until we saw those scenes with Joe Gorga when they were getting along. I was like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Because I did like, I went back and I was reading articles, like just trying to figure out what was going. It was the Jackie thing, but I was going back and reading other things. I'm like, oh, fuck, I kind of remember me and Steele being happy that Teresa found Louis. And then we had to go through all the love bombing in the love bubble, which was, you know, almost intolerable, but okay. And then Louis turned out to be an asshole. And it's like, all right. Yeah, damn it. But during the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures.
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Starting point is 00:22:38 Scotia Bank, you're richer than you think. Moving on. We get the Fudas, and they're talking about their daughter, Juliana, who's got some developmental delays. And so they're working on all of those things to try to get her speaking better, walking better, all that good stuff, which is, it's great to see. Again, these kinds of things are great. I love that. But they start talking about the post lunch. And what that lunch taught me, according to Jen Fuda, is who I never want to. Jeez, I'm so Rachel Fuda. Gen Fuda. No, Jen Fuda's perfect. Oh, God. Jen Fuda. Rachel Fuda. That's the exact person that I never want to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I'm genuinely curious. Before production started for this season, I know production had a meeting with her. And I want to know what happened in that meeting. Was it we need you to step up this season? This is your year. Was it a rah, rah, you're the next one up speech? Because that's the vibe I get from our. of her scenes. And I'm not saying, I'm not even faulting her because if that's planted in your head
Starting point is 00:23:44 that you got to step up and go toe to toe with Teresa, you're going to do the most. Now, I think where it falls short is John getting involved instead of Rachel fighting solo. But at the same time, is that a factor here? Is she trying to play it up because she was told to? Is she reading the writing on the wall? Oh, I need to step up because nobody else is. They're tired of all these other people's bullshit because they've seen it for too long. So it's food at time. Yeah, I think it is food of time. I think that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Maybe it went as far as Melissa saying all of the things that she said in the offseason where she wasn't going to go after Teresa anymore. She's done with all of that. And the Bravo producer started scrambling and they needed to find somebody and they went to Fuda because she's new. Give her an opportunity. Go after her. The problem is John Jen can't get out of Rachel's way.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Oh, I see what you're doing. Jen thing. Yeah, yeah. He's making it all about him, which I wish that somebody would have pointed it out. And this is just, it just shows you, every other person on this cast has their own head so far up each other's asses. Oh, yeah. Individually, that they're not even looking around saying, why was John going after Teresa? Why is that the conversation that happened?
Starting point is 00:24:55 That's not what should have happened. It should have either been John sitting down with Louis, which one person did say, or Rachel talking to Teresa. not the cross world we don't need to see any of that i don't want husbands yelling at housewives it's so fucking annoying i don't care whose team you're on it's just stupid get the husbands out of housewives this is not their show so that's the real problem here and the fact that now there's rumors like you said before that rachel's one of the three that could come back that means john's coming back so they need to have another conversation with him saying hey if we're retooling jersey that means the husbands are done we're not doing this shit anymore because that's where the downfall all really
Starting point is 00:25:32 happened with obviously Teresa and Melissa but that's where the downfall happened I think what as soon as the downfall yeah it aided it for sure it accelerated it because the husband started getting involved way too much we don't need it but that's going to happen when you leave a void in the show where a lot of them aren't communicating and oh well there is drama over here with the dudes let's see what they're up to and it's like yeah no it's not working great shows you the state of the show that's what I mean it went awry so yeah that's what I mean and I know people get bummed out when we hate watch stuff we don't enjoy hate watching things believe it or not it's not like our cup of tea we want to love these shows it's just we're gonna call it like we see it and we think
Starting point is 00:26:11 that's why you appreciate us yeah we're gonna tell you how we feel about it and that's what's wrong with this show that's where it's falling apart and it's really it's kind of sad i told you before i have a weird spot in my heart for jersey and i don't know if that's regional because we live near jersey and it's just familiar yeah probably but there's something i want it to be good again You're also reeling from the collapse of Potomac. Yeah, I know. I'm trying to fill that void. And yet to find it.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And you can't fill it with Jersey. Get filled with Jersey. Miami has stepped up in place, I believe. Miami is my new placeholder for housewives. So hopefully more of you watch it because the Numbie's got to be better this season. It's such a great show. Don't miss out on Miami. But moving on, we get a check in with Shooter's favorite housewife of all time,
Starting point is 00:26:54 Marge Jr. and Joe. And they are discussing the bougie brunch. and Melissa had told Marge about Jackie talking shit, and this line tickled me pink. It's one thing to be upset versus talking behind my back and saying mean things. Marge, you do this about everybody, literally everyone, and you say really, really, really, really mean, really, really mean things. so i i don't understand why when marge gets like pushed about when marge gets backed into a corner
Starting point is 00:27:34 or when marge is upset at somebody else this is always her response they're being so mean and they're talking shit behind my back and it's disgusting and it's i can't deal with it i hate them and blah blah blah look in the mirror one time just one time marge junior look in the mirror and understand that everything that's coming your way has something to do with you you have set the table. And I think that that's also part of the demise of this show you could argue is the level in which things are met with. It's not fun drama. If Marge is involved, it's going for the jugular immediately. She's trying to rip apart your entire family and your entire life. Teresa will do similar things. Melissa will do similar things. It's gotten to the point. I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:18 which one of these women set the tone for that. At some point during this show, that bar was set so high on this is how you retaliate that that's where the drama started to get too dark. And I think that Marge has a lot to do with that. I think her reactions to things where she's like, I can't believe they would say that behind my back. It's like, well, you do it. You do the exact same thing. We've seen every single scene that you've been in. You have to be talking about Teresa. That's the only way that you stay relevant. And it's gotten as bad is I go on TikTok. Let me tell you a little funny story here. I go on TikTok. Like funny ha ha ha or funny sad?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Uh-huh. Okay. Ha-ha. I go on TikTok and there's some trend where you tell, it's a girl that tells her parents, all right, we're going to do a trivia about me. And the dad knows all the answers up front. So it's to mess with the mom. In the middle of this innocuous, funny little game that they're playing, the question was, who's my favorite housewife? The answer was Marge.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So now I've got beef with a teenage girl. Oh, you? Yeah. What the fuck are you doing? How is Marge your favorite housewife? That's unbelievable to me. I would love. She does nothing but spew rumors.
Starting point is 00:29:22 and disgusting vile things. I would love to hear from some of our marge stands if we have it. I hope we don't. I would love to get them on. Well, honestly, we will put them on. Become a braf bros member today. Next month. Plug.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Next month when we do our Zoom because we do a Zoom every month and we get to hear from you and we go face to face. If there's some marge stands out there, I will gladly go after you for an hour. Oh, no. I will not let him go after you for an hour. I will. You can mediate.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I will, that was my point. I will mediate. Allow them to speak first with zero interruptions from this dip shit. You can mute my mic. No, no, no, I trust that you can restrain yourself. I will laugh. You will probably laugh, try it to make fun of anybody. And then I'll let you counter.
Starting point is 00:30:09 But my biggest thing is I would like to hear the reasoning why, and this isn't me being an asshole either. I genuinely, I understand that people have different opinions and they like different people, different housewives. That's the fun of these shows, or it used to be. Now if you like somebody wrong Everyone's going to skewer you But I would love to hear your reason genuinely
Starting point is 00:30:26 So sign up for Brab Bros members And join the monthly zoo Free ads But let's keep trucking We get to Bill and Jen Aiden And my God I love I do love these scenes Because
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's so obvious That he does not give a shit He doesn't care about the drama He never has cared about the drama All he's thinking about Is the pool house and that fat blot he rolled about an hour ago.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He's just waiting to go outside, but he has to show up for the camera. And she's talking about how it's awkward because she still hasn't talked to Joe Gorga ever since the drama. Was that BravoCon or was that a party in like Vegas? Something happened where Joe did throw something at her, which is not cool.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So she hasn't seen or she's seen him, but hasn't talked to him since this whole point. So she's expecting it to be a little bit awkward. That I can agree with. Like I'm sure that's not going to be super fun to go, work through that one most likely not but the funniest part is she's like so you can't leave my side bills like i'll be there like yeah i guess i don't know i don't know i might be with the boys there's a couple of shots being thrown around yeah they're doing the shotgun outside i'll probably
Starting point is 00:31:34 be there but uh if you need me i'll i'll i'll be at home in the pool house and i'm just thinking back to the party and he was not by her side that's what i mean he was he was by her side when they walked in and then they just separated because he saw joe and he loves Joe. Yeah. He loves Joe Gorda. He does. And all he wants to do is go outside and do shots with Joe.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And then they get Fessler's husband involved. He can tell is not into this shit because they do the shotgun in his mouth. He spits all of the to kill out. He's like, and Joe's like, you spit it out. He's a grown-up. You're doing shotguns. Yeah, like, how old are you? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And I don't think, I'm not saying you can't never, ever do those things. Yeah, if you want to live it up every now and then and like rehash the glory day, by all means. I think a housewarming party is acceptable for this. They talk about it with Melissa and Joe beforehand and we don't even need
Starting point is 00:32:25 to talk about that scene. But Melissa telling Joe this isn't a shots type of party? Yes, it is. It's a housewarming party. I guess I'm jaded because every party turns into a shots party.
Starting point is 00:32:35 That's true. And I just want one party to not be a shots party or a dick joke party or any of the above. Yeah, you get to just pick one. You can make your dick jokes but no shots.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You can do shots, but no dick jokes. I don't think they could do it. I don't think they can do it either. I think that's. Especially Frank's there. Well, one. You got to make dick jokes.
Starting point is 00:32:53 You have one, Frank. No, ball jokes and Franks there. Frank, yeah. But that's okay because I love Frank. Yeah. So he gets it. He's not even in this season. The Catania's get passes.
Starting point is 00:33:02 They do. Because they're great. They just seem like nice people. But in this scene with Bill and Jen, he's asking, you know, because she told him, this is your line for the scene? You have to ask me if Teresa's okay with it. And he remembers. And he says, is Teresa okay with this whole thing?
Starting point is 00:33:16 She said, yeah. she said just not to talk about her and then she goes off about daniel and this is annoying to me because this whole thing was clearly a setup from the beginning that's why lena was at that lunch so that this whole thing could transpire so could cause some artificial drama amongst the girls and then she goes off saying that daniel's entitled and has this elitist attitude i'm like i've i've never seen that i've never seen entitled or elitist i've seen where she got to a point this season where she doesn't give a fuck because she got burned last season by you, Jen, and by Teresa, it's not elitist that she's checked out, doesn't want to get involved in the
Starting point is 00:33:54 bullshit. She just doesn't want to get dragged down. Yeah, no, I see that exactly the way, the same way that you do. And we've already seen, obviously, a little bit later when Danielle tells her side of the story, but there's also been, like, reports coming out. And I know that we saw Lena was putting things on Instagram saying that she did all this stuff for Danielle, and Danielle did nothing in return. Danielle didn't really respond. And Danielle didn't really respond. to any of that, but other people were going against her saying, she doesn't even know you, you did her hair once. So that was out
Starting point is 00:34:20 like weeks ago. Yeah. And this is clearly just something for whatever reason that Jen has a beef with Danielle. I don't really understand people having beefs with Danielle. Maybe she does now because you just threw the two of them under the bus for them throwing you under the bus last year in front of everybody else
Starting point is 00:34:36 so now everybody can see it. You know Teresa's not going to deal with it. So you have to deal with it in your own weird Jen way. But I don't understand people going after Danielle because Daniel's a non-factor. She's really not doing anything. She's doing her own thing with New York Fashion Week, talking about making it and having a bigger house and whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:53 She's just, she's boring to me. That's one of like the family things. I'm like, all right, yeah, this is cool, but like you're not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So I'm kind of bored of you. You're just doing nothing for me. And the same goes for Jen going after her or really anybody else who has an issue with Danielle when Jackie was going after her. Actually, Jackie was a non-factor last year. But still, Daniel's not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:35:14 She's just kind of floating around. So, one, I don't think she should come back if they reboot because she's not giving us anything. But two, I don't really care about these scenes and these beefs with Danielle because she does nothing for me. No, I see what you're saying. I don't mind her, honestly, and I don't mind those scenes, but I do understand where you're coming from. Like, I get that mindset. For me, I don't know. Maybe it's just nice to see normal in her family scenes.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Sure. I don't know what it is. I don't mind them, but I agree with what you're saying. Like, there's not a whole lot being brought to the table. I don't know if that is a carryover from last year where she's like, no, I got burned by two people I thought were my friends. I'm not getting involved again. Unfortunately, I think it's the structure of this show.
Starting point is 00:35:52 You have to be. Now, Fessler's great, but Fessler's a friend of. Yeah. So she can just kind of tell the truth whenever she wants to and float back and forth. Jackie's trying way too hard, and Danielle's not trying at all. Jackie, we're about to get to Jackie. What a terrible showing. But we finally get to the Gorgas house.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's a lemon cello party. which is like an Italy party. The spread is insane. I will say that. And I will also say this. Don't love the exterior of the house. The interior was surprisingly nicer than I thought it was going on. I was going to say the same thing.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Do you know what I thought the interior was going to look like? I have an idea, but go ahead. It's another, you'll get it as soon as I say this. It's another housewife's husband's house. Okay. Another housewife's. I thought it was going to look like Lenny's house. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I could have sworn it was going to look just like Lenny's house, the full layout, completely open, making zero sense with marble everywhere and not one fucking carpet or area rug anywhere. That's what I was expecting. I got stuck on Mary Cosby, and I didn't think that it was going to look like that. I did not think that it would look like no one's house look like's Mary. You're talking shit on Mary Cosby's house? You better be careful. You better be careful.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I know. God forbid. But because you said another housewife, I was like, who's got a wacky house? I was like, oh, Barry's got a really wacky house. And then I was just stuck on those fucking chairs. Yeah. Couldn't get past the chairs. So I was fucked after that. But yes, 1,000% yes.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah, I thought it was going to be Lenny's house all over again. I was like, okay, actually, I fuck with this house. This is cool. The backyard's gorgeous. So I was surprised there, but spread's incredible. I always like to shout out the spread. But Fuda immediately goes up to Melissa and forces the lunch recap to her. And she's like, Louis said nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And then they wanted to bring this bottle for the house warming. And Melissa is glad that the bottle didn't come. Yet, but for the same reasons that we thought it was a stupid idea from the jump. And clearly a plant by Teresa to try to, I don't know, get a hand up or a leg up on the competition. I don't know what the fuck it was. But yes, of course, the bottle's not going to do anything positive. It's going to cause an argument. Something's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Joe's going to give the same speech we've heard a million times like he's Dominic Torretto. Family, family, family, family. I'm sick of it. The only difference is he's drinking tequila, not corona. Correct. Anywho, we go over to Teresa's house real quick before we get back to the Gorgas party and Gia is planning on moving in
Starting point is 00:38:17 with her boyfriend Christian. I actually appreciated this from a parenting standpoint where Teresa is like, you know what? I would prefer if she lived on her own while they're dating and then figured that part out. I never got to do that. That was a rare moment from where I'm like, I agree with you, Teresa.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That was nice. But this is where it starts again. She pulls up a fucking oven mitt. A goddamn oven mitt and says, Mr. and Mrs. She goes, Oh, shut up.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Shut up. And then Gia even goes, that's so sweet. Guys, like, come on now. You've been married for long enough.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm sick of this shit. Stop telling me how much you love each other to look good on TV. Stop love bombing me. I'm over it. And if I get one more scene with these idiots
Starting point is 00:38:59 where they're like, love, love, family, family, we're the best. I'm going to throw my notebook through my TV. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And I was asking for it last week just because it seems like we're in the, I don't want to call it the final season, but just, you know what, free reign, talk shit for the love of God. Be Teresa. Be Teresa, like, we miss you. Just go scorched earth, start talking shit on everybody.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I don't care if you had to talk about the food is the entire time. Just show us how you feel. Yes. Stop with the love bombing shit. Namaste my ass. This is another one of the, it's the family scenes. Oh, this is so nice, whatever. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I just don't care because you're not doing anything else. You're having Jen go do everything. You had a little sit down. the food is, their non-factors. You're Teresa Judice. Stand up and be Teresa Judice. Yeah. Namaste.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Namaste. Stop watching. Every scene has to have a namestay bitches in it. No. Everyone. I know. That's branding. That fucking oven.
Starting point is 00:39:54 It was probably a namaste bitch's oven mitt that says Mr. and Mrs. on it. Yeah. She said she got it from Daniel. I think it was Daniel. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I'm just sick of it. But in this moment, she says, I really wanted my brother to have my housewarming gift. Then you give it to him. You give it to him. that's my I don't obviously it's not going to happen my point is if you're really telling the truth I know she's not but if you really wanted him to have it then fucking give it to him so that it's all fake dude it's all fucking fake and well you know what it's honestly rachel was talking to that
Starting point is 00:40:25 bottle and she's like do not come do not come and that bottle was like I'm gonna come I hope there's at least one of our listeners that knows that real Yeah Because well played, sir, but we get back to the Gorgas And Dolo brings the bottle I love this She's like, look, Teresa call me I just
Starting point is 00:40:53 I just all you want me to do Maybe as a friend you say why I'm not going to ask Teresa why Dolores is at the point now She's like, I don't fucking care Give me the bottle I don't care what you do with this thing I'm just delivering it
Starting point is 00:41:06 Bye So hands the bottle to Joe And of course Exactly what happens Is exactly what we thought was gonna happen He goes into the family speech What do you think my parents would think What do you think my parents would think
Starting point is 00:41:20 If they saw this shit here My family fell apart Because what do you think my family Stop It's a show He puts on a show I know he does This is when we love
Starting point is 00:41:30 Fessler, because Fessler can at least go to her confessional, completely be unbiased and say, yeah, he's just putting on a show for everybody out here. But this also made me lose a little bit of faith in Fessler, because she's like, I don't think that she would give a housewarming gift to not be nice. I don't think it's a nasty move. She could have just been furthering the conversation. Who the hell knows anymore? Or she trying to snuggle up to Teresa?
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Starting point is 00:43:19 Every conspiracy theory is true. We all have to get on with our lives anyway. Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. The Aden's arrive, Jackie arrives, and Melissa's still really confused by Jackie. I think we all are. That lunch scene with everybody, or the brunch was bizarre because we know that you've had shit with Therese in the past. We've seen it. We've seen her come after your marriage.
Starting point is 00:43:42 We've seen a lot of things. And it's seemingly a non-issue now because you're like, oh, it's not a big deal. And Melissa's like, it was a big deal. I remember it being a big deal. And now you think Melissa's trying to stir up shit. She might be. But at the same time, it doesn't make what she's saying anyway. less valid.
Starting point is 00:43:58 No. Yeah, no, it's crazy to see. And we talked about it pretty much the entire time that Jackie was flip-flopping back and forth and now essentially landing on Teresa's side, there's just too many, what is it, too many chefs in the kitchen? Too many chefs in the kitchen on the Melissa side. There's way too many people over there. Marge is very headstrong.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Rachel's now stepped up. Melissa's stepping back, but she's still Melissa. You have no place there. You can't do anything over there. You see the other side, and you're like, oh, maybe. Maybe they can use me as a little bit of a bulldog. There's room for Jackie. You're not a bulldog, though.
Starting point is 00:44:32 That's the problem. No one is scared of you. You can rant and rave and freak out as much as you want or try to be mean, try to do things that are petty. Nobody ultimately cares of what you're doing, Jackie, because you are a non-factor. And she actually made steps forward in this season because she has said things like, I'm not taking shit anymore, Marge, like back the fuck off. She got props there.
Starting point is 00:44:55 She wasn't having a great season by any means. also was, she was right pretty much where everyone else is at that point. Indifferent, right? Indifferent. And then she shows why she got the boot as a full-time housewife in this episode because as everything starts
Starting point is 00:45:11 to come to a head, Fudo, Fudo and Dolo are recapping the fight between, or not the fight, but the back and forth between Teresa and John. And she says, you know, I heard that, like, the poster child for mortgage thing came up.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Like, that's not warranted. And then Jen Fuda, I did it again. Rachel Fuda was like, yeah, but she made a comment about Jaden's mom when she knows that I'm Jaden's mom. And she's like, well, I can't defend that either. And then Jen fucking Aden, right on time. Well, if he just accepted her apology, no, no, go away. Teresa's not here. This is what bothers me.
Starting point is 00:45:51 It's like, you know you're coming into hostile territory. You're trying to. Yeah, don't make waves. Yeah, right? I just don't do it. I actually do believe that Jen does want to be at least cool with most people, maybe, you know, not Marge, but most people. She just wants to have friends. She just wants to have friends. She wants people to like her, but she can't get it out of her brain. She's like brainwashed with the Teresa, like, things.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Oh, wait. See? You fuck her. She's brainwashed by Teresa to the point where even when Teresa's not there. And I won't even go as far to say that they had to sit down before Jen went over there so that we can make sure that we can. control the narrative. Jen is doing this on her own. Jen has this in her mind that she has to do this. You can just stay out of it. You can observe.
Starting point is 00:46:35 You can be like the guy on the valley who's just sitting back with his pink ugs and just texting Teresa about it. Simon? You can do anything. Just don't get involved. Don't make any waves and just sit back and make sure the bill is by your side. He's not. He's not.
Starting point is 00:46:49 He's in Joe's pool house. But I agree with you. And I think that it's so ingrained in her. Oh, I got to stick up for Teresa. I better step in right now and say something. or else Teresa is going to see this and say, why don't you stick up for me? That's the vibe that I got from it.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But it's still like, it wasn't the end of the world. You know, it could have gone worse than that, but it didn't. Like Fudo was kind of like taken aback, but it was kind of ho-hum. Out of fucking left field,
Starting point is 00:47:16 Jackie is going to Fessler. I've never seen anyone hate so much, hate somebody so much in my entire life. Really? In this group? It's insane. Never seen more hatred than, what Fuda has for Teresa right now.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Didn't you have more hatred for Teresa when she was spreading a rumor that what's his name was fucking cheating on you? Why did I just forget his name? Oh, you just made me forget his name too. Jesus Christ. Evan, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's like,
Starting point is 00:47:44 he's like the number one hunk on Bravo, dude. What this show does to us. But no, you had more hate for Teresa when she was spreading that rumor. Yeah, but not anymore. Not anymore. Because she wants to be cool with her. But she even goes to say,
Starting point is 00:47:57 Like, I think that food has got people in her ears, and she's besties with Marge and Melissa. Like, she had no intention of bridging the gap there. And John had no interest in moving forward. I think that's true, but it's coming from Jackie. I, yeah, we said that last week when we recapped it. I don't think at any point in that conversation, as soon as it started, it's like, nobody's looking for resolve here, really. Like, this is just like a, let's bow our chest out and see what's tougher moment. Nobody had any intention of saying the right thing.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And that whole entire conversation, it was very obvious. But Jackie, you weren't there. you have no idea how it went down. You're just hearing the aftermath from Teresa and you're going to jump on her team no matter what because you want to be part of the cool kids now. And it's a terrible, terrible look. Like, stand on your own two feet like you said you were going to do.
Starting point is 00:48:38 This is a terrible. Terrible. Terrible. There's a terrible show. It is. And it really bugs me, but she even goes on to say, like, the stuff that he could have said, now you're inserting yourself into the argument. Once again, you were not there.
Starting point is 00:48:54 You're doing yourself no favors. just shh please but we move on we get a quick scene of John explaining what happened with the weed dealing stuff and
Starting point is 00:49:07 he starts to go after Jackie a little bit I didn't like this no I didn't like this at all because he brings up the Coke in the bathroom thing in reference to Gia from a few seasons ago don't do that rule number one at Brab Bros, leave the kids out of it even if Gia is older don't bring back up
Starting point is 00:49:26 a rumor of her doing cocaine to try to vindicate yourself or to try to throw Jackie under the boss whatever it is it's a bad look i don't like that he even knows that reference what the fuck are you doing like i like look shout out all the brav bros that are listening right now but what are you doing are you thinking back to when you and bravo lover one two three four were watching that episode that's what i mean did you do your research before you came over to joe's watching yeah it's it's it just looks malicious and it looks gross like stay out of it stop i don't understand why he did that again it's to vindicate himself but you don't have to throw gia under the bus and bring back up a rumor about her doing cocaine she's a young woman with a
Starting point is 00:50:04 career starting her life like i don't care if you don't like gia that's it's not necessary now you're now you're doing what you're pissed off about for them doing correct they're bringing up past allegations this has nothing to do with teresa this has to do with her daughter or daughter don't bring it up i thought also didn't do anything wrong in that that was jacky right Like, it's just, it's all a slate at Teresa in some way, and it's just, she's not there. Yeah, no, it's exactly. How about you guys just party? Yeah, let's party.
Starting point is 00:50:32 How about you guys just have a fun time? And yeah, maybe there's some issues with Jackie going on. There's some issues with Danielle and Jen. Sure, whatever, you guys can recap some things. Just stop talking about her. Yeah, she's not there. This meeting of the dudes where they're all standing around the bench and food is holding court. I'm like, we really don't need this.
Starting point is 00:50:47 No. Especially if he's going to sit here and talk about you doing cocaine. It's embarrassing. But, but this is where things start to pop. off between Jackie and Marge and starts out, Melissa saying, look, I've been friends with you, I care a lot about you, I love you, I don't care that you're friends with Teresa. She's like, yeah, but you tried to make a problem the other day at lunch, and maybe it was a little bit of shade. Maybe she was calling to attention that, hey, you guys haven't always been cool,
Starting point is 00:51:11 what the fuck happened, which also is a valid question. Had that come from anybody other than Melissa, maybe it would have hit different, maybe not, but I think that Melissa being the one saying it's an easy tee up for Jackie, like, oh, you're just trying to get a Teresa once again. And she's like, no, it's in your book. Yeah. You wrote about the fact that Teresa, and this is alleging because we haven't read the book, but allegedly, Teresa made you relapse. That's your words.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Her defense on that? Well, it hasn't come out yet. That's not an argument. It's on, you wrote it down. It might strike it from the final copy. What do you mean? You can't write it in a book and then claim that you have no issues with Teresa. Like, where was that scene?
Starting point is 00:51:53 Where's the scene of them hashing it out and saying, hey, I want to be friends with you, but, and laying out all the shitty stuff she's done to you. I don't know. That would have hit a lot harder. You want people to like you. You want to be a mainstay on the show. Have that conversation. Don't just bend the knee because you need to be on a team to stay on the show. This is just Jackie scrambling.
Starting point is 00:52:10 We watched her last year, have no fucking idea how to be a friend of and how to get her job back. This year, she's like, I better do something big. They asked me to come back again. I got a flip-flop. I got to go over there right away. and Teresa doesn't care because as we see in the scenes from next week, she's ready to use Jackie as a bulldog. Jackie, go after Marge.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Let's bring her down. I'm okay with that. That's fun, but Jackie can't hold her own. Not against Marge. Dude, Mars doesn't give a shit about you. You see it here where Jackie starts to go in on Mars and says, you make insinuations about my mother, my career, and you're mad that I'm friends with Teresa.
Starting point is 00:52:42 And then Marge says that Jackie, or I get, and the conversation kind of falls apart there where Jackie storms off. She says, I'm not doing this. This is a waste of my fucking time. I'm out of here. And she bounces. And there's one thing you got to be careful of with Marge Jr. She needs to get the last word in.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Because if not, she's going to light things on fire, which is exactly what Marge does. She lights the entire room on fire. She does. And before we even get to that, here's a really good idea for everybody at home watching. If Marge doesn't start screaming and yelling, that means she's not threatened by you. That's a very easy. rule of thumb with Marge. If Marge is actually threatened by you, she will start screaming and yelling and carrying on and then usually storm out. She didn't do any of that. She was calm,
Starting point is 00:53:29 cool and collective while going after Jackie, because Jackie is not an issue. She's not somebody to be threatened by, you don't have to worry about her doing anything, because she will just kind of make a scene and run away, and you'll never hear from her. Yeah, she's a non-factor is what you would call it. But she brings up the fact to Dolo that Marge was pissed because you didn't tag her in the picture from the softball event the other week, all this other trivial nonsense. And then Jackie goes over and gives this weird hug to Joe Benigno. What the fuck was that? And I know she was clearly lit there.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yes, it was a weird hug. She's like, I love you, Joe. And then Marge comes over and goes, we don't hug her. Hey, we don't hug her. We're not good friends with her. That sick shit is what she said. Don't do that. That sick shit.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I thought I laughed at that one. Well, she always makes everything way more. exaggerated it's disgusting it's it's horrendous it's sick in the middle of a conversation like don't you hug my husband don't you hug my husband like we haven't seen you hug your husband yeah you give joe a hug yeah you give him a hug he needs a hug joe needs a hug he works really hard for you and stop calling him fat yeah leave joe no i don't say leave joe alone jo's a little bitch too oh joe benino is a huge bitch why what do you mean poor guy dude no he's not a poor guy He is Marge's little bitch
Starting point is 00:54:50 That's why I feel bad for him Oh now I don't feel bad for him Oh now I don't feel bad for him I can't get the picture of And we're getting into the scene right now I can't get the picture of his face When he goes like this with his phone Oh yeah he's tapping the phone
Starting point is 00:55:01 Come on check the phone Shut up Joe That was hysterical I thought That was a very funny moment It's funny Because he's tap He's like Because he's a big bitch
Starting point is 00:55:09 This poor guy This poor fucking man But we get to Danielle and Jedaden Real quick And I what I do like about Danielle this season is when she does have to have conversations, there's no, like, tiptoeing around it. She's just like, hey, what's going on? What's up between me and you? And she brings up the Lena thing. And she's like, you know, I'm pretty upset that you didn't stick up for me.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I heard everyone was talking shit at the table. Lena was throwing me under the bus. She's like, well, I would have, if I agreed with your behavior, I would have defended it. And you don't treat people like that. I know that you're like, you want to make it to the top and you have ambition and this and that, and she's being condescending about her dreams, which I thought was funny, considering she was just on New York Fashion Weeks, maybe not the time. But regardless, she's trying to tell her what success looks like, which is very funny. But as she's doing that, Danielle's like, she blew my hair out one time. And this whole setup was this was the VIP section for the VIP's, me, you, Dolores, Teresa.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And then Jen Aden takes credit for the entire event. Everything that went down. you're welcome, you're welcome, and you didn't pay for this and you didn't pay for that. She said, I paid for everything. What the fuck? It was such a weird conversation. Jen had no idea what she wanted to accomplish in this. That's why she needs Teresa.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I know, because she's not operate on her own. She needs to be pointed. She cannot be trusted. This is why you're not allowed to go to these events, because you cannot be trusted. You have no idea what you're trying to accomplish in this entire conversation. You're bouncing from thing to thing, making a big deal about private cars that were sent to you? Well, you just wrote them off at the end of the day. It's for charity. I paid for all of that and we raised this much. Oh, well, good for you. Good for you. What? You're not
Starting point is 00:56:53 charity, you idiot. Jesus Christ. And yeah, everything that Danielle said in this makes sense. Everybody tried to get into VIP. There was no security over there. So they had to get security over and get everybody out. Lena's not secure. She is not VIP. Not to mention. Not invited to VIP. You wanted to bring Laura in, who was the root of the rumor that you threw Danielle under the bus for. So, of course she doesn't want that woman at the event. It's a charity event. She doesn't want all the bullshit that comes along
Starting point is 00:57:22 with all the housewife drama. This is not homeless, not toothless. There's no cameras. If there's cameras, and it's a charity event, completely different story. This is in the off season. Relax. Yeah, but we figure out what the big hoopla was about, which I can respond with a very easy
Starting point is 00:57:38 answer as to why Aiden plastic surgery is not on the step and repeat. because you didn't donate anything. Yeah. That's why you being there is not cause for you to be on the step and repeat that gets all the publicity when people take pictures. If you want to be on it, pay for it. You were at your step and repeat 50 times and you didn't think once to put Aden over there? No.
Starting point is 00:57:59 No. Did you pay me to do it? Did we have this conversation? Like, what the fuck are you talking about? That is a sponsored thing. No, when Jen was saying you're welcome, by the way, it was just for showing up. I know. Like, thanks.
Starting point is 00:58:11 You can say that. that about Teresa. Teresa can say you're welcome. She definitely moves the needle. That's a big move. Not you. No. You were just there because Teresa was there. Bingo. So for her to take credit for anything that happened that evening to then disparage seemingly the amount of money raised and to say not one time do you think to get aid in plastic surgery up there? Well, if there was a billboard in Philly and we just walked by it, are we supposed to be on it for no other reason? Then we saw it? We've also seen your
Starting point is 00:58:37 house. You don't need any more charity. No. Or any more fucking... publicity yeah that house is insane it's ridiculous you're doing fine bill's doing fine you don't need i felt that was just like a little last ditch effort like oh i'm losing this i'm losing i need something let me throw this out here maybe she'll feel bad nope no but daniel did control her not control herself but she handled herself really well in the end of this by still managing to make jen feel like she's okay yeah by saying hey you know what i care about your feelings don't let things fester and boil up because this is what's going to happen just tell me immediately tell me and we'll be able to figure this out. Okay, cool. Boom, done.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Well, no, I've got like a real part is Danielle's like, all right, Jesus. Like, let's move on. I think Jim was like, yeah, okay. Yeah. I've like stormed off. It's like, no, she's made it like, you're good. Give her a couple minutes. She'll realize that that was like an apology and we're okay. They're mending the better. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. But the final scene is Jackie and Dolo and
Starting point is 00:59:31 Dolores brings up. I heard that you're upset because I didn't tag you in the post last week. And Jackie is clearly a little bit lit at this point. She's like, yeah, you know what I was, and she's like, I didn't shit talk you, though. I did not shit talk you in this moment Marge's like, I'm going to send this screenshot. I'm going to show exactly what she said. And she screenshots, and it says, Dolores is a fucking slob, which I guess in Patterson, slob carries a lot of weight.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I think slob is mean. I do too. I think slob is like Jackie tries to say, that was actually the funniest part is as Jackie is explaining why it's not mean. All the things she said, I'm like, it's not a pretty mean. That's pretty mean. Yeah. Like, that's all encompassingly, wow, that's just a bad person. that doesn't care about other people.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And yeah, that's pretty fucking mean. But as soon as Dolores gets the text, she's like, oh, I'm just checking on my dog and then just flips the phone around and goes, that's disgusting. Like, I'm a fucking slob. Jackie's like, oh, though, no, that's so mean. That's so mean.
Starting point is 01:00:27 You said it. Look, it's not that. She just doesn't know what to do. And this is why Jackie cannot step up to the plate against the heavy hitters. You are not ready to take on Marge, because Marge will keep receipts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And then she tries to back on and goes, well, Marge has said horrible things about you and Polly. She's like, yeah, probably. But she's smart enough to not write it. Or Jackie says she's smart enough to not write it down. And Dolores is like, yeah, she seems smarter than you. That is definitely smarter than you. Like, she's not falling for it because, one,
Starting point is 01:00:57 she probably knows that Marge said some shit because it's Marge and she talks shit. Dolores doesn't take it seriously. But you trying to defend yourself by saying, well, they're doing it, too, is a terrible defense, one, and two, no proof here's your name your text message calling me a fucking slob go away you're losing and that's pretty much how it wraps up you know she dolores goes after in the confessional a little bit and you get marge kind of lashing out at the very end but horrible showing jackie like any steps
Starting point is 01:01:30 forward you took which were minimal but you were at least stagnant for a little while yeah plummeted her stock just went way down. Yeah. She cannot handle this. No, she's just, like, you can't go toe to toe with Dolores. Like, that's the thing. People forget, I think, that because she's been so Switzerland for so long, that if you go toe to toe with her, you're going to lose.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Like, Dolo doesn't take any shit from anybody. So it's a good reminder of that. She'll have, like, an apology or something, and I don't know. We'll see what happens because it looks like, again, scenes from next week, Teresa's talking about using Jackie, just straight up using Jackie. Yep. To bring Marge down,
Starting point is 01:02:10 which I'm all for. Well, Teresa literally says I want to bring Marge down. Anybody who wants to bring Marge down, I'm all four. I will be on your side a million, a million times. I don't really care.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But Jackie's not the person that you can use. She's just going to falter and falter and falter and then burn out and be off the show. I'm curious. I'm curious as to what happens. It looks like Jen and Danielle get into like an altercation. which I'm excited for because look if Daniel plays the possum the whole season where she's just right here
Starting point is 01:02:42 and then finally she's like you know what fuck this and then we see the Danielle that we expected to see last year but didn't get that would be big for me as far as what we can expect from this season I'm really not sure I'm not sure where this drama goes I'm not sure if the Fudas and Teresa
Starting point is 01:02:59 and Louis can ever sit down and have another conversation I'm not sure if Louis can table the wolves to be able to do that again. So I don't really know where they're going to mend anything, but we will continue to watch as long as you guys continue to watch and listen. Don't worry. Just because we say mean things does not mean we're out on the show.
Starting point is 01:03:17 We will do our due diligence as always. And with that, let's get into some pre-guontas. From Marissa and Palma, Marge sending Dolo the screenshot while Jackie was in the room. Messy or warranted? Both. Yeah, it's both. and only because it's Jackie.
Starting point is 01:03:35 If there was anybody else on the show, I'd be like, eh, what the fuck, Marge? Classic Marge. But Jackie was running around doing a lot of dumb shit. She deserved it. It's almost like a reminder.
Starting point is 01:03:45 It is messy, though. Yeah. Super messy, but I didn't mind it. From Instastaf 7, who's the biggest bitch boy of this season? I know you think it's Joe. It's Joe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Yeah. Joe Benign, no, but I feel bad for him. I really do. Yeah. From Holly Tug, what are y'all's thoughts on Joe throwing Teresa's card in the fire? I thought it was theatrical. It was not necessary. I'm sure later on that night, you're like, fuck, I kind of wish I knew it was in that card.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah, you kind of want to know what she said. It's got to, like, eat away at you. Yeah, I thought that that was, like, pure cinema and not in a fun way. Yeah. It's like, let me throw this in my gas pebble fire pit. from Jacqueline Michelle Cress How do you think Dolo handled the text with Jackie Or the text situation with Jackie
Starting point is 01:04:43 I thought she did great yeah I think it was absolutely perfect I don't think you would handle it any other way She didn't get escalated She just said as much as she needed to say Put Jackie in her place and sent her on her way We'll do two more here From KKHill 789
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Starting point is 01:05:12 The members decide what we do in the members program. And one more here, because I didn't even see this, so I'm not really sure if you caught it from Air Pick 33. Did we all catch Jen Aiden throwing shade about the lack of valet parking? She will never learn. I guess this is at Joe's. Was it at Joe's or was it at charity event? Well, she got a car for the charity event, so I don't think she was talking about that.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Either way, stupid. It's a fucking housewarming party. Like, you probably Uber there anyway. Yeah, like, come on. That's just, again. The way you and your husband get after it, you probably Uber there anyway. Yeah, right? Or you have a driver taking you.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I guess for me in that it's she, she's going to try to find fault anywhere she can. And without Teresa there to point her in a direction, she just throw shit at the wall. correct as we saw with her and her conversation with daniel yep but we will continue watching don't you worry we uh it's cathartic for us in a weird way but we are covering a lot of different shows coming up so make sure you stay tuned we got another idea from a listener where we can post at the beginning of the week what our episode schedule is going to look like since we are now looking at different tv shows we are going to do the bachelorette in july which i think think even if you don't watch it will be very funny because we get to comment on all the dudes
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