Bros & Shows - Get to Know Your Bro's + A RHOC Recap! (Q&A, Kyle+Mauricio Separation, RHOC full recap)

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

What's up Bro's? We are in the dog days of summer and things are a bit slow in the Bravo world. So, we thought we'd mix things up this week and get a lil personal... Up first we discuss the rumors swirling around Kyle Richards and Mauricio and their official separation. Morgan Wade and Kyle have been getting seemingly very close according to Instagram and people are wondering what the whole story is... Then we try something a little different and we answer YOUR questions about US! We get personal from how our friendship started, swapping some high school war stories involving a trip to Florida, Heineken mini-keg and Golden Corral and we give youse a chance to get to know your BravBro's! Finally, we finish up with RHOC where Heather still feels a bit scorned by Taylor regarding the IMDB fiasco (even though Tamra was the one talking smack). Gina and Jen are slowly getting closer but Jen's past and her affair are still an issue for Gina as she attempts to navigate her way around it. Shannon and Tamra seem to have accepted one another's apologies and we see Heather take Tamra's side even when Gina was attempting to warn Heather about Tamra talking behind her back.. Hopefully you enjoy today's episode! We thoroughly enjoyed recording it so let us know in the comments or leave us a review and let us know what you think! Time Stamps: Kyle and Mau (9:01) BravBro Q&A: Get to know your BravBro's (21:23) RHOC (45:30) This episode is brought to you by ZocDoc. Not sure where to go for medical care? Find a doctor that's right for you. Go to ZocDoc.com/Bros to download ZocDoc for FREE and book a top rated doctor today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. I am your co-host. Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Scootle-Madoodle. What's up, dude?

You can see your wheels turning because you just completely, like, stopped and stared at me. But what was that one? Scooters, Scootles-McDoodles? I like that one better. I said Scootle-McDoodle, but Scootles-McDoodle. Yeah, I don't know. Something about, like, pluralizing names or something. It's always funny.

Not a lot. You know, we're back, ready to get after it. If you can't tell, voice is back. Unfortunately. Unfortunately for everybody involved. but it seems like my reign of terror over my head is over, hopefully. Hopefully. We have, there's a potential.

Yeah. We'll see. The car's in pep boys right now. We're going to pick it up after this. I have been shooter's chauffeur lately. He's actually been pretty good about taking care of himself. Yeah. He's only asked for help a few times.

By taking care of myself, you mean just ordering Grubhub pretty much every night for dinner because I can't go to the groceries. Yeah, that. But, you know, it's a slow week here. There's not a lot of shows airing right now. now. So we're going to take a different approach to today's episode. And hopefully you guys enjoy it. If not, you know, there's only one show airing this week regardless. So we thought today was like the best time to do this. We're going to get into a little bit of a little bit of

our personal life. Personal Q&A's. And we're still going to review OC at the end. So if that's what you're here for, listen to our personal questions. And then you can move on. Go to O.C. Then you can listen to O.C. But don't just jump ahead. That would be rude. You're disregarding who we are as people. How we got here. Yeah. What the hell we have a lot of questions i put up people too we are people too damn it and today you're going to learn about us people and we're going to tell you what's up with the bros people people might think we have fake names mine is fake steels is not we are people we are people okay so stick around and listen to us be people people people on people jesus christ this is

going to be a train wreck but um let's get the rosent thorn out of the way so we can get into some personal q and aes because i'm i'm actually looking forward to people ask us frequently when we do a live that's usually when the questions come out the most Like, who are you guys? How did you get here? What do you guys do for a living? Like, how did you meet? All that other stuff.

So we're going to talk about all that shit today. And then we're going to do some O.C. We're also going to talk about Kyle and Moe because a lot of you weren't on our live last night. So we want to fill you in on what's up there. But first, Rose and Thorne. And I'm going to go first this week and then you can pick up the pieces afterwards. All right. And mine are both technically roses, but my one is framed as a thorn because I thought it was really funny.

Okay. this person did, but I'm going to read my rose first, which I don't normally do, but since they're both technically roses, it doesn't matter. So up first, love the bro perspective. I am a diehard bravo-holic, and I listen to multiple bravo pods. This one is always great, funny, and an easy listen. The dude POV is interesting and different, five stars always. If only they had the same taste in sports teams, can't win them all. Smiley face emoji, I will not read your hashtag KC, golden K-9, but you can deduce from her name what it's about. Kansas City.

Kansas City, and I think they have a football team there. I don't know if there's some. They cheat and they put out their grass. They put out shoddy grass, and they know the guy that actually put the grass. Hold on. The whole thing. Can we fill our, let me have time. Should we fill our listeners in on like how that all have, how we lost the Super Bowl?

Turfgate. Yeah. So the head groundskeeper has made the same turf, or sorry, he has been in charge of the are for every single Super Bowl since what? Like the beginning? No, not since then since they started cultivating certain turf for the Super Bowl. It's like 25 years.

Yeah, this man has been doing this for a long time. His name is the Sodfather. The Sodfather, as they call. And the sod father did the turf for this Super Bowl. And if you watch the game, the Eagles slipped the entire game. Our defensive line is better than any defensive line in the history of football. And they couldn't get their footing because every time they tried to drive into the offensive line, they'd slip their feet would fall down,

and then the Kansas City Chiefs would get a first down. Yes. So you can blame the turf for us losing the Super Bowl. The NFL did come out and say that there was no issues and that the Eagles should have changed their cleats, and now everybody's mad again about it, which I completely forgot about it, you know, trying to move on. I did too.

The new season, but they said the Eagles should have changed their cleats again. Apparently they changed it three different times and nothing worked. Yeah. So, you know, you can say that they both had to play on the same field, but the thing is that impacts a defensive line, a lot more than anybody else, and we had a better defensive line. They weren't going to get through our offensive line anyway, so that's a

nullified fact. And then you get our defensive line that couldn't get to the quarterback. They had zero sacks after having 28 or 30 sacks or whatever the hell they had some crazy. No, they had like 75 sacks. Yeah, so ridiculous. Here's the cherry on top, sir. The cherry on top, this groundskeeper

was the head groundskeeper for the chiefs. Oh, he's a lifelong chief fan. There you go. So bullshit, conclusion, illusion, collusion, we got robbed. Look, we're talking to Bravo people who can piece things together pretty easily. You guys know what you're doing. Connect the dots here.

The Eagles got screwed. The Chief Stink. That's my rose. My thorn is a one-star review from K-E-A-76-4-3-1-4. One-star. She says, love listening, even when I don't always agree. That's it? I think she meant to do five stars, and she did one.

Is this golf? I don't know. But I made me. laugh because it's a first star. We haven't gotten a one star in a while, and I was like, oh, no. And I looked. I was like, oh, it's still a good one. So that's my, that's my thorn.

Look, now we know you can go back and edit that. So if you're listening to this, you'll be free to go back and edit that one. Give us a fiver or keep it a one. I think it's kind of funny. Either way, it's kind of funny. We don't really care about those things. Anyway, on to you, sir. Shooting it over to me.

Shooting it to the goots. Shooting to the goots. That should be a new segment. So, yeah, so my rose is multiple people who have reached out over the last week to make sure I'm okay I saw that there's a lot of comments a lot of DMs just making sure my voice is better how I'm feeling you know you never quite feel to love as much as he do when you're sick and people are reaching out it's weird it's like in a good way that we have anytime we complain about something or something's going on in our lives and we talk about on the podcast we have a very

extensive support system now and like all of you guys check in with us and it's so sweet like yeah no it's funny because I completely abandoned all of my problems last week and just decided to go to the shore. Like Thursday, I checked the car. Car wasn't working. Screw it. Go on to the shore. Forget about it. I had a great time at the beach. Came back, whenever the hell I came back, Monday night or whenever.

And the car still wasn't working right back into it. Just like, oh, God, now I don't have a car. I can't do this and that. So whatever. So it was very helpful that people are reaching out saying, I hope you're doing better. And I am. He is. Voices back, and it seems like the car might be back. So here we are. My Thorn, a little different approach on the Thorn.

Okay. Thorne goes the Bravo production and scheduling. Oh, I like that. I don't know. What the fuck? Seriously. Martha's Vineyard's over, which I get, like, maybe they didn't expect people to really be into that, maybe miss it. But we missed it this week.

Atlanta just doesn't air on the Fourth of July? It's got to be. Why? But it doesn't make any sense because the Fourth was on Tuesday. Give us something. People are, I guess they thought people were going to be off Monday, so ratings might go down, whatever. I understand the thinking behind it. But after you do all of those things, and then you look at this week in a nutshell and you say, wow, we have one show this week and it's OC.

You got to do something. The weirdest part is Roney is airing next week. Yeah. Why the fuck wouldn't you put that this week? Make it Wednesday night. Everyone's back from the 4th of July. They're hung over. They feel like shit.

They're watching TV. Yeah. Well, that starts the 16th. So that's actually not even. Two weeks. But it's done. I know. Put it out now.

We're in a stand still. I don't like this. Not this Sunday, but next Sunday. So at least for our, you know, we can go back to the full on two episodes a week sort of format, which we grew accustomed to, but there's just not enough content for us to cover for that much.

So the lives have been really good. Lives have been great. Continue the lies because you guys love them. But yeah, so that thorn goes right out to Bravo scheduling because that made no sense. And when Steele and I were doing our homework, if you will, we realized that there was no Atlanta, and we're like, what are we going to do?

So thankfully we're creative, but we're not that creative. So don't do this again to us because we do not know what to do. We'll run out of ideas in a hurry. But before we get to our, our personal Q&As, why don't we discuss what's been going around on pretty much every Bravo account. You can't go on Instagram without reading about it. Kyle and Moe, they have been, or they are officially separated now.

Yep. As we learn more about this and the ins and outs of it, you know, Morgan Wade enters the picture. Morgan Wade is a country music singer. And I guess her and Kyle met on vacation. Do you know who Morgan Wade was before this? I'd never heard of her. No, that doesn't mean she's not good. I've never heard a song of hers.

I will listen, but no, I'd never heard of her before. But I guess she's like a 25-year-old country music artist. They met either on vacation or I forget what they said. But since then, I guess they really connected. And they've been seen together working out. They've been seen together on vacation. They've been seen together pretty much everywhere. You know, they're posting pictures.

They're doing Instagram lives together. So a lot of speculation has been coming out that all started with Kyle posting. a picture post-workout without her wedding ring. Yeah. Now, do you think that that is grounds for a holy shit she's cheating on Mo? No, I-shit her and Mo are done. No, and that's, if you listen to her alive last night, I think that's kind of my problem, and I'm worried about it, and we talked about it even during Scandival.

We're worried that everything's going to go in this direction, that people saw everything develop with the Sandoval, Raquel thing, and now they're going to start applying it to other shows. And, like, I understand that that's human nature. going to start doing those things because you were kind of trained to do that for three months during VPR. But to do it now and then also it seems like Bravo's kind of like leaning into it with them picking up the cameras again. I don't want to see us go down this hole because one, I don't think it's that captivating. You know what I mean? Like if there's a cheating aspect, sure. I think we agree there. If there's absolutely an affair going on and Kyle's been with Morgan for months

and the whole reason that her and Moe are separating is because their relationship is not whatever unacceptable or inappropriate then that's one thing. Then I get that. Then we kind of have to see the fallout because that's kind of what you signed up for for a reality show. But if she's just friends with Morgan Wade and grew together in whatever sort of capacity but it's all friendship and platonic

and her and Mo are just having a really hard time and they're separating, you don't have to pick up the cameras. No, I don't care. I don't need to see. What are you going to do? You're not going to have Andy in a sense. sit down one-on-one with the two of them and discuss how it affected their marriage and everything. Like, that's not going to help anyone. Well, I do want to see what's going on between the two of them, but I don't know if you need to pick the cameras back up after filming has closed.

Obviously, because this is happening in their actual lives, like we do need to check in with it. That's part of the show. And Mo and Kyle have been kind of a mainstay for a really long time. And that's, I guess, why I start to question some things is because the more that's coming out, it seems too clean cut for me. There's too many neat and tidy details that are kind of

following each other. Like, you get one thing drop, and then, like, the next week, there's another thing that drops. And none of it's, like, scathing. Yeah. But it all seems to be wrapped up in this nice little package. And, like, you get a publication, like, People Magazine, to post about this story. They're the ones that wrote it.

People Magazine is known, they don't just put out, like, smut. They're not just going to throw out shit like a tabloid. They don't have actual evidence, then they don't just put things out there. Sure. I'm not saying it's like the most reputable source ever, but it's also not, you know, like page six that's going to run whatever.

Yeah, I think it's also just kind of difficult because, again, kind of juxtaposing it to the VPR thing. We at least were watching VPR at the time. Right. So we could start immediately looking for clues and this and that. We're not really, we're not watching Beverly Hills right now. We haven't gotten a whole lot of information out of how the season's going. So I don't really want to label it and say,

that there was nothing going on the entire season and this is why they're doing this and they're picking up the cameras because they got nothing out of Kyle the whole time if we start to watch it and there is really no indication of what's going on with Kyle and Mo and it's a pretty good season

and we get more out of Kyle because she's not bogged down by Renna she's not bogged down by Kathy being there the whole time she's able to kind of like grow into herself which is kind of weird to say for somebody who's been on the show for as long as she has but if we get a good season out of it I don't want to have this dark cloud hanging over it

you know what I mean like Because that's what people are going to do. They're going to ignore the good parts of the season that we were hoping that we would get after last year's terrible, terrible run of 28 episodes. If we get a good season and everybody's complaining because they're not getting enough Mo and Kyle, that's going to be annoying. So here's how I'm looking at it. If we see a good season of TV and we see a good showing out of Kyle, I actually put more truth to what's happening now. That, to me, would tell me that things are actually going on behind the scenes. If we watch a bad season of Beverly Hills and it starts to pick up like three quarters of the way through

and now we start to get rumors and this and that, that to me points to, okay, they knew this season was kind of struggling. Right. And then all of a sudden this news comes out to a reputable source such as People Magazine. What that tells me is somebody within Bravo probably leaked this with the intention of putting Kyle on the spot, making her actually talking about her shit because this season was struggling. That makes sense. So if that's the case, then, like, I'm going to base it off of, honestly, like, as we go through the season, I'm going to check in with this and be like, okay, I'm starting to think that this was planned. Or if it's a good season, I'm like, all right, this makes more sense that maybe this is real. Yeah, you just brought that up. Let's talk about this. Do you think that it's actually real? Like, in your, in your opinion, do you think it's fabricated for the show to give Kyle a storyline that she's desperately needed for years now?

Here's what I think. I think that the separation is real. I do. I think that that's an actual thing that's happening. Mo went on Zach's podcast, no filter with Zach Peter, and they talked about it. And he was,

it seemed genuine because he was talking about the strain that reality TV puts on a family. He's like, look, we've been married for 27 years. We've been on the show for, what do you say, 13, 15, 13. I think it's 15, yeah. Let's go with 13.

He says, we've been on the show for 13 years. Obviously, it's going to put a strain on things. it's hard. We work through it. We're a very strong unit. But yeah, this has been a really tough year for us. So we're looking at things. We love each other very much. We support each other very much. We're just looking how to get through this. And to me, that's a good answer. It's something that's both supportive and deliberately ambiguous. So you don't really know what's going on. He didn't give too much info, which tells me he's not trying to drag Kyle, which is great. So I think the separation is real. Now, the Morgan Wade of it all, and another thing was positive on Zach's live that I, I don't know if it's true or not, but it would make a lot of sense to me. Kyle is sober now, and she talks about her sobriety, which I love. During your journey and sobriety, a lot of people have a sponsor. Now, this person could be her sponsor, maybe. That would make more sense if they're as close as they are, if they're together as much as they are.

That would be a reason. I'm not saying she is. I'm not trying to point fingers. I'm not trying to tell people what's up. I'm saying if that is the case, one, it makes sense. And two, that's information that, while it's none of our fucking business, at the same time, it would be nice to know just so people could back the fuck off. Because if she's trying to get sober, she's trying to stay sober, and that's her sponsor and she's doing the work and she's working hard and it's going, well, the last thing that we need to do is derail anything by digging into it too far. Right.

And there's, I think that what we're going to end up getting is that there's a lot of truthful components to it. and there's a lot of things that might be smoke and mirrors. There might be things that Bravo's kind of producing or playing up. We don't really know until we get to watch the show. And look, I mean, at this point, we're all experts at looking for affairs on TV, on reality shows. Like, that's what we're going to do. That's what the whole O.C. episodes about. But when it comes to these shows and we do this time and time again, usually when there is some sort of smoke somewhere, there's a fire.

Yeah, there's enough. we might be misguided in certain things, but what? I think I got it. You just crack the case? No, I don't want to put that much emphasis on it. But I think the separation is real. And I think that Kyle realized that that might drum up a little bit of speculation. And then if she leans into it a little bit by posting Morgan more and more, just to kind of like,

she's not giving any solid answers, but she's giving little hints maybe just to kind of string us along, knowing that it's just furthering your season. You would expect that from a vet, but also you could look at it in a different light. You could look at it like she is genuinely happy and she is dating Morgan for all we know. And this is her starting

to, yeah, I'm separated from Mo. I'm going to start posting with somebody that I love. Yeah. We don't know. Because there is also, there was another story which we don't know if there's a whole lot of validity to it, but apparently Morgan's ex-girlfriend was at a show of hers and Kyle was supposedly Kyle was the quote-unquote other girl

and Morgan's X was yelling, get that girl out of the show, I can't believe that she's here. But we don't know that it's definitely Kyle. We know that Kyle was at the show, but we don't know that Morgan's X was talking about that and Morgan's X isn't talking about it. So the whole thing just kind of stinks a little bit.

If it is all for the show, kudos to them, kind of. You know what I mean? Like as much as I want to say, that kind of sucks and that's annoying. At least they care about their job enough. Exactly, yeah, exactly. Like, at least you've been on the show for 13 years. You finally figured something out here, Kyle. Yeah, you finally cracked the code.

It gave us a storyline, even if the, my biggest problem is that the indication that Bravo's picking up their cameras two weeks after filming because this information is dropping, does say to me that the show sucked. Or at least Kyle sucked in the show. Now, when it comes down to the People magazine, like you said, they're reputable. They know what's going on. They have good people that work for them. This isn't page six. This isn't, and I, this isn't the sun. the people who are writing for people,

God, we're saying people too much. They're getting information, like you said, from Bravo, from people close to Kyle, whatever. Bravo execs have to know what's going on. They know exactly what's going on. These articles are not written overnight. There is a lot that goes into them, especially when it's about cheating and separation and divorce and things like that. They have to get their facts

straight when you work for something like people, not page six. So the fact that that was leaking, and Bravo, assuming that they knew about it, didn't push it at all during the season is kind of annoying to me. No, I... Because that's where I am. That's right.

If they're picking up their cameras, that means that they knew about this and they weren't pushing it all during the season and didn't get enough. And now the news broke, they're picking it back up, which is, I don't know. I just don't want to get in the habit

of doing this every time that something, I guess, important, happens to one of the castmates and it's in close proximity to when production wraps. Don't pick up the cameras every time somebody stubs their toe. Well, here's a thing. It's going to be annoying. Here's a thing.

All right, while I agree with you, at the same time, if this works, okay, let's look at it from the lens of we get to the end of the season, we see the extra footage and we're like, holy shit, that was a bombshell. Like, that's a different story. So I think that while you're right to be cautious and not want to go down a road that sets a precedent where it's like, okay, now every show has an extra two weeks of filming out of nowhere just because somebody stub their toe, as you said, that's one thing. But if it works, that's a different story. I don't know if it's going to work, and I feel like I might be the only one who remembers this, and we talked about it last night. The middle of VPR sucked. Those first couple episodes were great because it's like, whoa, we got, like, earth-shattering news.

Let's look for all the signs and indications that Raquel and Tom are cheating. Like, there's something going on here. We have to look for these things. Once that initial excitement died down after the first and second episode after the news break in March, it was boring as shit. We didn't care. We wanted to get to the point where we picked up cameras. There's so much more going on. We got one episode after all of that.

But it doesn't matter. I know, but those eight to nine episodes stung. It doesn't matter. It was so bad. It does matter. No, it doesn't. You know why? Because people will remember that as the season.

And the ratings were through the roof all year. So that's all that matters. Somebody who enjoys watching TV, I didn't enjoy it in those episodes. Which is fair. But again, it's not about us. It is. It's always about us, baby. It's always about you.

It's your world. It's very true. But now it's time to get personal. You guys asked us a, wow, a lot. of personal questions. So I'm going to call this the brav-brough-down. We're going to brav-bro-down with my brav-bro-bro-bro-coodle. Scoodle McDoodle.

Oh, wait, fuck. Scoodles McDoodle's McDoodle. Scootles McDoodle. We'll go back and forth. I'll read one and then you read one. All right. I like it. All right, let's start it out from basic burnitz.

Biggest ick. What's your biggest dick, shoots? Oh, biggest ick? I always, maybe you view it differently. I'm not going to lie, though, the first time I read this, I thought it said biggest dick. dick, and I was like, we're not going to tell you that. You can go measure that.

Give us a couple minutes. You got a roller? I got a tape measure. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, biggest ick for me is always, you've got to view it in like some, maybe somebody that you're dating. Like, I don't know. People have icks with friendships.

I don't really give a shit about that, but I'm going to, that's how I'm going to answer it anyway. I don't, okay. All right, I'm just walking you through my process here. Biggest ick with someone I'm dating. would probably be, I don't know, probably just lying about stupid shit. That's so generic. Fine, embellishing on stories.

Okay, okay, I like that one. That actually can be across the board, too. Yeah, no, I like that. That's anybody when, yeah, when they further a story for the sake of furthering the story, but it's not worth furthering, and you can tell that there's adding stuff. Should have just not told the story in the first place? This is just a bad story. Yeah.

This is simply just not worth telling. Yeah. My biggest ick is pajamas in public. That's a good one. I hate when people wear PJs in public. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't know why. Look, I'm not saying that I get dressed to the nines every time I leave the house,

but at least put on enough clothing to make it look like you give a half a shit. That's a good point. Yeah, pretty much at Walmart, you're a thousand percent going to run into somebody. I love Walmart one and two, I love people watching at Walmart. Don't shit on Walmart. Walmart is great. It's underutilized in the north because in the south, we all go to Walmart. In the north, I go to Target.

Yeah. Target's great, too. Free plug for Target and Walmart there. It's got a different air about it. But people are wearing normal clothing, and things are actually on the shelves where they're supposed to be. Walmart's like the wild west of Target. Yeah, and that's a good point.

There's just shit everywhere, and there's people running around in pajamas, and usually cookie monster pajamas. So, yeah, that's actually a really good ick. Ah, here we go. This is actually a really good one. Mostly because I barely even have to answer. Oh, fuck. Steele, what's your favorite tattoo?

Oh, that's a good one. I just got a new one that I love, but I can't name it a fit. My favorite's probably the cow skull on my leg or the bull skull, whatever you want to say. I really like it. The guy did a great job. The line work is impeccable. So probably that one, the one that has the most meaning.

Probably my poppy flowers for poppy. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. But you were going to say the new one. No, the new one. one, no. The new one is very much just like, oh, this fits the scheme. But I used to be very specific in what I would get. Now I'm a little bit more loose, but I also like all of my tattoos. So I'm afraid I'm going to fuck up the flow at some point. But I do also have a sneaky one

that I love. That's probably number two after the poppies. And it's on my ass. And it says rebel. And that's because I can't, I can't actually say why. Yeah, just leave it at that. Yeah, it says Rebel on my butt cheek. Because I'm a bad boy. That's why. James Dean. I'm a little bad boy. Good for you. The follow-up to that question was Does Shooter have any tattoos? Yes, I have matching tattoos. One

is a star around my belly button. The other one is a star around my butt hole. Yep. Yep. That's true. Seen both. In one hole out the other. Oh, I like this one from Tracita. Favorite bar food. Oh, yeah. Wings. Let's get into it. I just, let's, I mean

the easy answer is wings. Um, I mean, mozzarella sticks. Not a lobster corn dog. Yeah, lobster corn dog. Fucking Tom, Tom, shorts and Spanis. How does that actually work? Did we ever think about, like, is it still on a stick?

And if it's on a stick, did they make a rod out of lobster meat that they then coated? No, all you have to do is you would put it in a bowl. You would put some egg in there as a binder. You would sprinkle some breadcrumbs on it. You would salt, pepper. I'm assuming some parsley, maybe a little bit of lemon squeezed in there. You'd mash all that together. Maybe a little bit of mayo to help with the binding process.

then you would form it around a stick and you'd stick it in the deep briar. That's how you'd make a lobster corn dog, in my opinion. I mean, you'd have to roll it in the breading again in like an egg wash and then you'd deep fry that bad boy. I don't know why. Like, I knew what it was too, and I don't know why you did a really good job of explaining exactly how to make it.

Yep. Just the visual of all of those things. Yeah, no. So, yeah, my love is definitely mozzarella sticks. I love them all shapes and sizes. Wings, obviously, if you've got good wings and there's a couple of places around here that have really good wings, wings, I could sit down and eat 25, 30 wigs, just sit there and that'll be the whole thing, yeah.

Bring back the Wing Bowl. Oh, yeah. Bring it back. The last time we had it, we won the Super Bowl. That was the last one. Just saying, Philly. Yep. You know.

What are you? Did you answer? Read the signs. My favorite bar food is wings is such a standard go-to. Outside of that, I love when they do them right, I love a good slider. But I feel like a lot of people fuck them up. But when people get sliders right, it's the perfect amount of, like, appetizer without getting full and they're delicious, but I would say 95% of restaurants fuck sliders out.

Yeah, and every once in a while, you'll get one, like a restaurant that will have a variety and you can do three sliders and pick and choose, and you can do one that's like a Buffalo chicken slider. You can do one that's a burger. You can do one that's pulled pork. But I agree. Most of them do it completely wrong, but I do love a lot of places it's hard to fuck up, a good pulled pork slider.

Pulled pork slider is good. I like that. It's usually more consistent. The burger ones, I feel like they overcook. the burgers and they're like little hockey. Burger sliders are 99% of the time. I know I said 95, but 99% of the time, yes, they are a little hockey puck. Yes, exactly.

Cue for the bros, were either of you in a frat? Fuck no. Fuck no is the answer. No, I got into more fights in college with fraternity guys than anybody else. And I know a lot of people don't get in fights. Yeah. But there was this weird thing at Ohio State between the athletes and the fraternities, and I don't really know why.

I didn't start it, but I definitely got involved in it. for whatever reason, when we as a group of athletes would go to a frat, I guess we had a target on our back. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. If you just think about, like, what a frat guy is. You know who's frat I got in the most fights with? Civics.

Civics. So our buddy from high school went to high school. When I visited you freshman year, we went to that frat. Yes. And I think we left early. We probably did because I hated that frat. I think we pre-game with them and then went somewhere else. Those guys were all douche nozzles.

Big bar. Yeah, big bar. Love big bar. And what else? The O patio was great. And I finally figured out what. But I asked our listeners a long time ago because we used to go on Wednesday nights to the O Patio. It's called Liquid Dope.

They would give you this picture of just sugar and like 151. They called it Liquid Dope. And you didn't feel or taste the alcohol at all. And as soon as you drink one of those, it lights out. So we go to Liquid Dope night every Wednesday night and then have a horrible hangover Thursday for practice. And wake up and do it all again on Friday. This isn't that lovely? But no, yeah, neither of us were in Friday.

honestly the it's sort of the same thing like I went to a smaller school and I would see it's pretty much you have to be in a frat to have friends at the smaller schools

so if you didn't play sports you joined a frat and like I get it like if you just want to be friends or whatever those frats were okay they were still kind of douchey but once I started visiting

my friends at Penn State because I went to school about an hour away from there and my school was boring as hell I went to Penn State all the time those frats sucked yeah a big school frats a guy died the one year

because he like fell down the steps. Yeah, there was a whole fucking thing. During the hazing thing. Yeah, it was like, my sophomore junior year that happened. So, yeah, no, we're not frat fans. And to shooters point, when I was at Ohio State, I was on the baseball team. So it's pretty much a fraternity within itself. Like, just all I did was spend time with those guys because we had to lift and practice 24-7, 365. So fuck frats. Moving on. From, oh, I like this one a lot. Kia Rihanna one. I don't know how I do this to myself.

Kaya Ariana won. How did you guys become friends? I love you two's friendship. How did we become friends? Yeah. How did we become friends? I actually don't remember the moment. I don't remember the exact moment.

Yeah. Was it football practice? Because that's the first time we would have hung out because we got preseason. Yeah, probably preseason football practice. Yeah, I think, yeah, it was definitely preseason football practice. And the funny thing for me was going to, Steele and I went to a private high school, and no big deal. But I was coming from the city.

and going out there, there's, you know, it's a private school. There's a lot of, like, fancy kids that are fucking freshmen that are actually 16 years old that drive Lexuses. So I kind of clung to the people that were also from cities and stuff like that. I thought that Steele was like a city guy. I gave off the vibe. Because he gave off like a blue collar vibe, which was really weird in spite of the hair. But, so I, yeah, we became friends probably during football. And then later I realized that he was not from the city, so he was an imposter.

Imposter syndrome. But now he actually has a way better city accent than I do because I lost it over years. A lot of training, a lot of practice. That's a boy. Completely gone. And I can't even force myself to do it anymore. Yeah, I pride myself on my accent. A lot of people tell me it's more Delco, but I think that I'm pretty much downtown.

I'm anybody. I could be the Northeast. I could be Roxburgh. I could be Delco. They're all the same. Oh, whoa. Yeah, you can get mad about that. I'm from the Northeast.

The Northeast is the same as Roxburgh. Roxburgh is the same as Delco. Everybody's the same. Wow. You're going to come. The only one that's not the same is South Philly. South Philly is, I will actually say that. South Philly is recognized as a same shit.

Oh, you're going to cause a lot of shit. I can hear Devin upstairs stomping around. She's from Roxburgh. Yeah, the Roxburgh people think they're better than everybody else. You'll take a lot of shots. Lisa listens, too. She's going to hear that. I don't care.

I've also said it to both of them. I've said it to all of them. It doesn't matter. That's true. But yeah, I think that's somewhere along the way. We played baseball together for a long time. So that's where our friendship, like, cultivated the most. Like, we would room together on road trips and stuff.

But, yeah, we kind of hit it off. I don't really remember the intro, though. Yeah, I don't remember our first kiss either. Yeah, I don't either. Should we reenact it just because we forget? We can do the Shannon and Tamer kiss. Nope. That was, you want me to lick your face real quick?

Yes. Okay, cool. Close your eyes, YouTube. All right, you're up. All right, this one comes from Chappies, 0907. Best memory of the two of you together. Wow. Lots to sift through.

I'll just go with the one that just popped in my head first. I will say some of my best memories with Shooter, and you guys do this to me. You pull the emotions out. I'm an emotional guy. But some of my best memories have been in the past few years just because I was gone for a while. I came back to Philly.

We reconnected. And then, like, standing on stage with you at our live show, like just looking out at the crowd. and like it was the show was over and like people were clapping just like in that moment like holy shit how the fuck do we get here kind of deal and like to share that moment with one of your best friends is pretty exceptional like it's hard to put into words that moment just because it was like a look at what we did kind of thing get it together which is really cool but i think my top one is either florida trips and baseball in high school or the one that popped immediately was my graduation party in polkino oh yeah that was was a great time. It was a really great time with all of our friends, and that's up there. Yeah, that's got to be up there. So I'm going to get a little more specific with the Florida trip. So there was one day. This is like a two-parter, maybe a three-parter. Oh, my God, are you telling the story? Yeah, yeah. Wow.

So here's the story. So Steele and I, as we alluded to. None of those teachers are there anymore, so I think we're cool. Yeah, I think we're fine. So we would go to Florida every year for spring training in March and spend the week down there, and we would stay at the days in, And three of us would stay in a room. And it was two people in a bed and then one caught in the middle that you would sleep on. But by junior year, we were sort of seasoned at this point. And we found a specific room that had a connecting room to other people. So as juniors, we connected with the senior captains.

And one specific day, we went out and decided, wow, those Heineken kegs are really cool. Let's get one of those little mini Heineken kegs. those things hold like seven beers top. Not even, maybe. Max. There was 12 of us. And keep in mind, we're staying at a truck stop in Florida, Fort Pierce, Florida, if you're from there. It's one of those hotels that when you open the door, you're outside.

Yes, exactly. It's a motel, I guess. It was a motel, yes. So we decided, let's walk over to the store. Everybody had fake IDs. So we got one of those little Heineken kegs and some little mini cups, and we hunched down in a field between the gas station and the hotel and drank that. then we continued to go back and drink at our hotel. And that night, it was like 2 a.m.

We thought we were completely done. It was just the three of us in a room, or six of us, technically, with the connecting room. And our head coach knocked on the door. We scrambled around and tried to clean up all the empty beer cans because we're also going to throw them. We can't just throw them in garbage. Steel walks over, opens the door.

Our head coach looks right down. Hold on. What's that? Let me just, from my point of view on this one, let you keep going after this. The knock at the door, there was probably like 20 players in our room at one point and like our bathtub was full of Natty Light and ice like 200 beers like some ridiculous amount because we thought we were cool so the night goes off without a hitch like Shooter said there was one fucking bottle left Heineken there was no it was a Coors Light and I'll never forget it was a He was a it was a Coors Light bottle and it was sitting right next to the door so as soon as the door opens our head coach is standing there and I look him in the eye and I was like what's up coach?

he immediately just looks down and points at the body and goes, what's that? And I was like, fuck. And he goes, you boys be in my room tomorrow 7 a.m. Yep. Get rid of that, shuts the door and leaves. Yeah. So one of us, not me, was hiding in the bathroom. Not me either.

Yeah, the third person that was in our room was hiding in the bathroom. And the next day we had to go meet our coaches at 7 a.m. I had a very serious talk. They threatened to essentially send us home, tell our parents, all the things, make sure that the board back at the school knew we were worried about getting kicked out or whatever and then at the end of it they said we're going to keep you with no more fuck-ups

and we decided it would be really funny if we played a joke on the other guys in the room and walked back with our heads down and acted like we were being sent home so we started packing and they walked in and saw us and were freaking out and then we just decided to tell them we were fucking with them we thought the story was over there

we had breakfast at the Golden Corral and then we had practice afterwards in like 90 degree Florida heat. Steele's a catcher. I was playing second. The third guy was playing shortstop. Steele had to take balls in the dirt off a fungo bat about five feet away. To explain that to people that don't know what a fungo is,

my coach stood at the mound, and I was forced to get down on my knees in a blocking position behind home plate, and he took a bat and hit over 60 balls at me, and they would bounce in the dirt. Here's the kicker. if I flinched, he made me take off a piece of equipment. So if I had my shin guards on, my chest protector, my mask, I never had to take my mask off,

but I did have to take my chest protector off. And this was the last one. He hit a line drive in my sternum, dropped the bat, and goes, all right, we're good. Picks it up and tells me to pick the balls up. Yeah, it's like the worst thing of strip poker you've probably ever played. Yeah, that wasn't fun at all.

But you forgot my favorite part. Well, the other, the two of us that were out there, we had to run double play drills. Same concept, except our coach was standing five feet away from us. pounding balls, one hoppers right at us, and they were just, like, firing off of our limbs all left and right. We were bruised the fuck up, and they made us go for, like,

15, 20 minutes, while the rest of the team sat in the dugout and drank, and had to watch, drank water. Drink water, Jesus, and had to watch us do that. And that was probably traumatizing for them, which was probably the point. Yeah, no, there was a lot of lessons. We did end up going back and drinking that night. We did.

I know, we got back. We got back. We're like, we're not going to do it. Someone's like, yo, we're going to grab beers. We're like, all, cool. We'll meet you there. But my, my. favorite part was part of our penance was to go back to the hotel and write a letter. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we had to write a letter

and we had to tell what we did, where we got the booze, sign it, and date it. And our coach said, if you guys fuck up from now until you graduate, I will pull these letters out and I will give them to the board. Now, when I graduated, our coach came up to me, shook my hand,

said congratulations, and handed me my letter. Yep. Completely forgot about the letter, honestly. Oh, what a story. Yeah. That's a great call. Yeah, so that's the best. I think that's the best memory.

That's a funny thing to share. That's mine, too. I think, yeah, that's a fucking, wow. I forgot about that one. The last one is, someone said would love to hear stories of high school shenanigans. There's one. We have way too many, like way too fucking many.

We did way too much in high school. We might need to start a whole different podcast called how to not grow up. We were at a party for Fourth of Children's, July the other day, and one of our friends who went to school with us, his wife said it sounded like we went to the Gossip Girl School. I mean, honestly. Because any time we start talking about what we did in high school, they are. We used to have keg parties during school.

Yeah. For example. Yeah. Like stuff like that. Like stuff we shouldn't have been. I was a great time. I don't regret anything. But the last one's from RTSV 93.

I can read that one easy. Thank you. When and how did you become friends? We got that one. But what happened when you guys had a break? So I got drafted out of junior college when I was 21, but when I went to Ohio State when I was like 18, I pretty much moved out of my house because baseball took over. Like when you play in college in your summers, they send you to different leagues around the country to continue playing. And then you pretty much go from college to your summer league.

You go home for like two or three weeks and then you go back to school for preseason. So I really didn't spend a whole lot of time in Philly. Then when I moved to Texas to go to junior college to try to get drafted, and I did get drafted, I didn't come back to Philly ever. Yeah. Like, I just kind of, a lot happened. That's also when I developed a drinking problem, and that's kind of, that's a whole different podcast for another day. I'm happy to dive into all that shit. If you guys actually want to hear about my story and, like, my sobriety and all that stuff, let me know in the comments of the messages.

I'm happy to put something up that kind of explains how I got to where I am, because it's a really long story. and one I don't really want to get into right this second. But I'm more than happy to talk about it. But essentially, after all my shenanigans were over, I went to rehab outside of Philly towards Reading and Karen. Amazing place. If you need help, go check out Karen. It's a wonderful place.

But saved my life, got me back on track, moved back into my parents' house for the first time since I was 18. I moved out of my parents when I was 18 years old. I moved back into my parents' house when I was 28. I turned 28 in rehab with a kid going through a divorce and a drinking problem and no job yeah that's where my life went yeah so a hell of 10 years a stretch there's more to that story and I'm happy to discuss it um if you guys want to hear about it maybe i'll do like a separate video at some point but let me know happy to talk about it happy to talk to

any of you if you have an issue with anything sobriety related i am always here to chat with anybody so reach out if you want to but uh that's a story for a different day yeah yeah and while you were gone. I just carried home with my life. Yeah, Shooter was doing shooter stuff, being Shooter-McGooder and Scootle-McDoodle. No, yeah. As you know, once Steele got back, it was right back into it. So there was no, there was no cause

for concern or anything like that. I will share this one because this is kind of like a funny tied-all-together moment and I don't, were you there at Campbell's that night? I think so, yeah. At first and so I was back for like two months and I hadn't seen anybody, I

guess like obviously the rumor mill was going around so people had heard i was home they kind of heard about what was going on but didn't really know the ins and out it's like too much but they'd heard that i just got out of rehab and all that stuff so two of my friends shooter one of them uh my other buddy phil texted me and it was after a wedding and it was like nine o'clock at night and i had just gotten back to my parents house so i was living there at the time getting my life back on track and uh you guys texted me and said hey we're at campbells which is down the street not sure we heard your home if you want to come out and say what's up like we'd love to see you i hadn't been to a bar yet since i got out of rehab so i wasn't sure i would go went down

talked to my stepdad i said yo dude like i'm going to go i got my phone on me if it feels weird i'm just going to say hi and leave like i as communicative as i possibly can be like i just want to go because i want to see these guys like are you cool with that he's like yeah just be careful like let me know how you're feeling like come back home we'll talk about it all that good stuff so i'll never forget i pull up to campbells and i park on the street there's these two ladies walking into the bar. And I'll never forget when one of them was walking and I was like, wow, that girl really pretty. Like, who is that? Lo and behold, I walk in and Devon and I went to high school together. We dated in high school and we kind of went our separate ways

for a while and, like, found each other again when I got home. But I remember looking at this girl when she's walking in. It's thinking, wow, that girl's gorgeous. Walk into the bar. And of course, of course, it's Dev. And I haven't seen her in like eight years at that point. I walk in. I'm like, yeah, of course it would be you. So I end up having a blast with you guys. Like it's so, like Shooter said, we fell right back into everything. Everything felt natural, normal like we hadn't ever left high school. Honestly, it was awesome.

I loved it. And I remember getting home to my parents' house. And I go up to my room, which is my brother's room, because my room was turned into an office because I wasn't home. Makes sense. So I'm sitting in my brother's room eating a bag of smart food popcorn in sweatpants. Technically, it's the guest room now, but it's my brother's. In your pajama pants. In my pajama, yeah, in my pajama pants.

And I'm like, I have my phone up and I'm like, oh, I'm going to text Dev. And I'm like, I look around my situation. I'm like, what the fuck do I have to offer? Yeah. What the fuck am I going to say? I'm sitting in my parents' home at 28 years old. I just moved back with a drinking problem. I don't have a job yet.

I don't know what to say to this girl. I shit you not as I'm thinking that. My phone goes, and Dev texted me first. Hey, yo. And the funny thing about that. story is dev was mad obviously we invited her and i forget who maybe it was abanda invited her to campbells yeah when you walked in and after you had left she was pissed and we didn't say that you were coming i was pissed you didn't tell me she was there fuck off both of you oh fuck you and i remember

her being mad because she quote unquote said i would have like wore something a little nicer and like did my makeup i thought i was just hanging out with you guys i didn't need to do all that No, she looked great. And Steele walked in. I was like, oh, no, she looked amazing, still does. Yeah. And that's how we reconnected. I chased her around for a year after that, trying to convince her to go out with me.

She finally did, and now we're married. So, yep. There you go. Is that personal enough for you guys? Is that in depth enough into our lives? I think so. And you leave us alone. No, I'm just kidding.

We asked for this. Yeah. And I like that. I hope that you guys enjoyed this portion because I like diving into our shit a little bit every hour and then. And this was the opportunity to do so. But. What's up, bro? Steele here to talk to you guys about Zoc Doc.

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Then find and book a top-rated doctor today. That's Z-O-C-D-C dot com slash bros. Zocdoc.com slash bros. Without further ado, I guess let's talk about Bravo now. Yeah, let's get back to it. So all we had this week was OC. I will say, I am a fan. This week kind of sold me on it.

I like this show. I like the characters. I like the drama. It does not seem produced. It seems like Tamara likes to push the envelope a little bit and is kind of the shitster as we're seeing, but it doesn't feel fake to me. And that's what I like. Now, nothing feels fake.

we're also getting it like the girls trip right out of the way very early on in the season which is interesting too and i feel like girls trips in general when we get those for the most part they're not really that bad like we get what we really want from the show they have fun together they're drinking every night they're carrying on they're doing cool activities we get to get a little bit of the drama when it's not produced and these women have nowhere to go when something comes up as we see later in the episode so we get everything they don't get to hide from the cameras and they can't hide from each other, which is exactly what we want. And I fully agree with you.

It seems like maybe we're finally moving out. Maybe it's just a no-sief thing. But maybe we're finally moving out of the whole produced, over-produced drama bullshit. Everything seems organic. You get to see why these women are choosing sides, whose side they're choosing, and the understanding of why they're doing that, pretty much all in one. And I can't stress this enough. It's easy to watch.

It is a very easy watch. Yeah. There's not, I mean, obviously, you know, we're new to the show overall, but we know most of them anyway. I would say that it would be a little bit nicer if Emily was there. Obviously, there were COVID issues, but I like Emily a lot too, and I like that they didn't just completely leave her behind. They got her a little bit of a storyline here in this episode. So overall, I'm enjoying it.

Yeah, no, I have changed my tune on it from episode one until now. Episode one was just so slow for me that I was like, me. And then now I'm like, okay, I'm starting to know the characters a little bit more. the drama seems real and I think that's also because every woman on this show is so sensitive if you say anything that challenges them they clap back instantly but

case and point we start out Heather is still pissed that Taylor was allegedly talking shit about her career now if we go back and watch these scenes was there a little sarcasm involved sure was Taylor at the forefront of insulting Heather

no no she really wasn't and Tamara's the one that arguably took a shock she's like she hasn't been in anything since the 1900s. Tamara says no I said in 1990s no you said 1900s which implies it has been hundreds of years since you've been on TV. Yeah I mean and that's

kind of what she was going for and that's why she was doing it. I look I think that after being able to sit with this after last episode and now this I think that Heather's just being super super sensitive to it and I understand that

if this was it in a nutshell and somebody was just talking about her acting career and they took it upon themselves to look at IMDB and go after it. That's one thing. I get that because that's kind of like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, why are you doing that? But we know the reason that Taylor's even commenting on in the first place is because of how Heather responded to her invite to get into back into acting and join me for this movie.

We'll be able to get through it. We'll get your feet wet. We'll make sure that everything's all right. And I know that you're going to be a good actress and you're going to do a good job. Heather kind of scoffed at that and she made jokes about that. So if anybody has the right to laugh a little bit about it and be a little sarcastic about Heather's resume, if you will, it's got to be Taylor and I'm completely fine with that.

Tamara is doing a little bit of shit-starring, but not as much as we're used to, not to that over- As much as she does later. Yeah, exactly. Not to that like over-produced bullshit where she's just pushing and pushing and pushing. She makes another joke and she just kind of like tags along with Taylor. And I think that's fine. I think that Heather's just being overly sensitive about this

because she's been out of acting for so long because she wants to get back into it I understand where the sensitivity is coming from I guess kind of not really for me it's like well I again just you being insecure about your resume where it's like okay settle down they pulled up your IMDB clearly you feel a certain way because you're I don't know if you're not confident about it maybe it's because you've been out of the game

I think she's just not confident about it because she's been out of the game for a while but like that's I guess this is where I get confused is because she's offering you a job yeah this is all came she's acting like that's where acting like taylor offered the job in jest and she didn't she offered it to be a friend and she's turning around being like this is insulting it's not so it's insulting for you to treat the offer as a joke that and that's why firmly on taylor side i'm not even to say tamar's side because timers just shit siring firmly on taylor side and i think taylor doesn't even think it's a big deal which it isn't it's not obviously heather's making a little

bit more of a big deal jena starts to stir it a little bit more but overall it's not that big of a deal. And I understand why Heather's sensitive about it. I don't understand why she decided to poke fun at it when Taylor offered her the job. So those two things going together means that you're not really, you're not in the right way to be offended by this. Yeah. No, I agree with you. And I think it's interesting and weird that the next scene is Tamara and Heather in the bathroom. And Tamara lies. She lies to Heather's face. And Heather just believes it. And we see her talk about it later in the show. She's like, well, I talked to Tamara. She said she didn't do that. I can't, I can't believe that she would actually say that to me. And then she'd be lying to me. So, like, I, what am I supposed

to do? Not take her word for it? It's like, yeah, probably not. She has a pattern. And all this stuff starts coming out. And we'll get to that. Let's get there. Let's get there. So the next scene, Tamara and Shannon, they're in the kitchen. And I wrote shenanigans. Get it? Shannon igans? God. But Heather, again, I think that we're seeing, and I wonder if this stems from the fact that her life's getting shaken up, like, overall because the kids are leaving. Yeah, the empty nest stuff, yeah. The empty nest stuff. I think that's coming to light because then the first thing she says is I hope I don't

get iced out because Shannon and Tamara are reconnecting. It's like, okay, that makes more sense to me now with the acting thing because clearly she's just feeling a type of way overall because it's a big life change. And I don't think she's handling it. I don't want to say she's not handling it well because I don't know what that's like. I can't speak on that. I just think maybe it's rocked her a little bit more than she's. she thought it would, and she's trying to gain her traction back and figure out what she wants

to do. But clearly with this comment, she's a little shaky. Yeah, and I think that all of that makes sense. Now, if I'm Heather, I'm in the back of my mind thinking, well, ultimately, this isn't going to end up well. Ultimately, Tamara and Shannon are going to be at odds again. And when they're at odds again, they're going to lean on me to talk about the other person. And that's pretty much how this is going to go. It's just the cycle of endless events. But I don't have an issue. I mean, like we've seen, it's almost like we're seeing in real time Shannon breaking down and accepting Tamara back as a friend. We did watch it.

We watched it fully. Last episode, you could see that she was hesitant. Obviously, drinking helps that a little bit because you're more open. You're going to talk about things. But even still in that moment when Tamara is yelling across throwing gummy bears, which is funny, throwing gummy bears at her, she's still a little hesitant. She's like, yeah, you know, right now, yeah, this is fine. And then they tackle each other on the stairs and blah, blah, blah, and it looks like everybody's having fun.

I'm here for it. I like that. I think I'm just speaking from a point of I'm so. tired of these women just continuing to dislike each other in all of these shows and refusing to ever find a resolution smooth it over right not even yeah smooth it over become friends again just get to a point where it's not an issue every time because we're tired of the storylines if this was going to go down that path we'd be annoyed by it so I'm happy that we're getting the inverse of this and showing them come back together because that's what we need more than ever

we need some feel good stories I agree but with something we're going to see later I have to call it out with Tamara. We'll get there and I'll... Oh, it doesn't mean that. I like Tamara. No, no, I know. But it's just to this point, I think, more so than that. I don't think you... But we get Shannon, Tamara, and Heather and they're talking about Jen and Ryan. And we get

some pretty big bombshells dropped here. And we find out that Jen allegedly called Tamara at one point and said he cheated on me and she said, well, why are you still with him? But Heather's like, oh, well, they were actually on a break. But that's a very different story if they

on a break versus Jen calling Tamara and saying, hey, I just got cheated on. Right. I think it's damage control at this point. And that's kind of what we're seeing with Jen. That's kind of her M.O at this point. Overall, with everything that comes to Ryan, she is assessing the things that have happened in the past.

And she, look, maybe she doesn't do it anymore. But she found out that he cheated on her. And she called her best friends to complain about that. Somebody that knows both of them. Somebody that should be a vault. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, I guess not. But Tamara obviously got that call.

and that happens you can't now years later say well we were on a break like ross and rachel it doesn't work that way if you guys were really on a break and you found that you wouldn't have said he cheated on me you would have said hey we're on a break i'm still kind of fucked up about this because he hooked up with another girl once again that's a problem if you if you phrase it like that then later it's not going to come back and bite you in the ass but you can't stand by this is what i'll never understand and i get it but whatever you can't stand by a guy who you're also saying has cheated on every girlfriend in his entire life. I know. And continue to say he's not

a one woman kind of guy. You're dating him. You're going to be married. You're going to do whatever. You're going to share your life with this guy. You're standing by him through thick and thin for all of the things that he's doing and saying. But you're also leaving these little clues out there like, hey, it's almost like a help me situation where it's like

No, definitely. Maybe subconsciously. I think she reacts emotionally in the moment and then feels like she needs to retract it or cover it up in some way, which is what I think this whole thing is where she's saying that they didn't have an actual physical relationship before she keeps leaning on. Yeah, before her and her husband broke up. You know what she keeps leaning on specifically? What's that? We never even held hands. She says that line every single

time. We didn't even hold hands. I had that thought and I was like, I mean, I probably had sexual relations with somebody that I didn't hold hands with first. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think plenty of people have. You and I have never hold hands. No, and we fuck all the time. Uh, what? but I did think it was really funny that they juxtaposed that scene with Jen on a FaceTime and the room's too dark to see Ryan she's like I can't even see you

like oh no it's just the lights lights are off I'm like you've got a white t-shirt on yeah I'm missing everything but you turn them lights on show the camera to the right a little bit I don't know that and again I think that was just a good editing moment

I'm not saying there was a woman in bed with them but it just was really funny to see that scene next to them talking about it but that's when we get the biggest bombshell. Ryan allegedly walks into the gym, that cut, points at Tamara and says to his buddy, I'm going to fuck her. And look, we as dudes, we all know I'm going to fuck her guys. Like, we all know those guys, and they're the worst.

They're the worst type of person. They're frat guys. Yeah, those are fat guys. Those are the guys that will walk into a room and point at a girl and objectify her immediately and say, I'm going to fuck her. Like they think they're hot shit. And those guys have the tiniest weaners in the worst. world. That is a fact. That's a fact.

So I'm calling it now. Ryan's got a teeny-weeney. Teeny-weeney. But anyway, the morning after, they're all hung over because they did. I'm actually impressed with the amount of shots that they put back. Oh, my God. I'm always, I can't do that many shots. They did eight. Eight shots of tequila. That's a half a bottle. That's a good amount of tequila. That's a good amount. And I like that's

like my breakfast six years ago. Oh, Jesus Christ. Now we're getting dark. No, like I thought the same thing. I mean, they started obviously they had the whole night out and whatever and then they came back and it was still like 1245. The thing that I noticed was people started to change and chanin just stayed in her full-on outfit, which was fine. She had a fake eyelash stuck to her pajamas.

Her extensions were falling out and you know what? Fucking love that she leaned into it. She's like, yeah, I'm in shambles right now. She's having a great time. She's just bopping around the kitchen. You can tell she's in that gray area of still fucked up slash hungover. Yeah. Which I love.

Love those moments. But again, these are moments where you're like, ah, cool, a girl's trip with fun. Yay. Like, maybe that's why I love this episode as much as I did. But that's when we get to breakfast, which looked great. And I have to point out that Tamara says that she wants to get a ranch, and then we get a quick cut to her son.

And we need, like, a redacted because we were talking about her son, Ryan, like a few weeks ago. I think all we said was, like, good for you, like he found his calling or whatever. We didn't know the backstory behind him. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, he stinks. We don't have to jump into this one, but yeah, fuck that guy. But Tamara says that she wants to have a ranch because, quote, it's a laid-back life. Uh-huh.

Yep. There is nothing laid-back about working a ranch. You know, any ranch. That's a laid-back life. A ranch life, you're up at four in the morning because you have to be out on the fields before the sun comes up just to have enough time in your day to do everything that is required to run a ranch. There could not be a less laid-back lifestyle than that. that of a ranch hand. So don't know where that came from.

Just because you watched Yellowstone once does not mean that you can run a ranch. But whatever. The group splits up for activities, which is hysterical because half of them are doing fun stuff. I mean, the girls, they get to ride a horse, but then they had to shovel out an entire trailer full of shit. Yeah. I don't know if you, have you ever done that? No. It's not fun.

No, it's not fun at all. I can't imagine it is. It's not a great time, but it's funny that she sent half the group to go literally shovel shit while they got to go. to play with hay and tractors, which is fun. But that's when you get Shannon and Tamara talking, and they're discussing the I'm going to fuck her thing that Ryan allegedly said when he walked into the gym. Shannon's almost in tears.

Now, when I'm watching this scene, I'm not saying this didn't happen at all, because I could definitely see a guy that's known as the town horror walking into a gym, probably with one of those stupid spaghetti string tank tops that dudes like that wear with a gallon jug of water and a duffel bag because these are those guys, all right?

And if you are a guy that has a duffel bag and you carry a gallon water jug into the gym and you wear those thin ass spaghetti strap tank Johns, you are that guy. Well, you might be that guy, but you still have time to change. You have time that you can become something better than that guy. First things, first, throw that gallon jug in the trash.

It doesn't make you look cool. It makes you look like a douche nozzle. You used to be a piece of shit. People can change. You can change. Who me? No. I think you should leave me. They call me a piece of shit.

Slick back hair. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they take a lot of selfies in the gym mirror. So at lunch, we get to see Gina talk to Jen, and she is saying, like, I like you. I like Jen. I'm glad that we had the chance to room together so I can look past the infidelity. Now, as we know, Gina was cheated on. She feels a certain way about people making light of the fact that Jen seems to play almost a victim mentality in her affair, although she was the one committing the affair.

so Gina has a problem with that because she got cheated on which makes total sense to me and like if I'm Jen and I think what she's trying to do is make a storyline for herself I think she's trying to be relevant by talking about all the shit she's a newbie she's trying to bring something to the table I get that but if I'm Jen I'm not talking about my affair every fucking episode no vindicate myself like you fucked up and I liked in this episode the fact that she said it was really fucked up and thank you Gina for bringing this to me as a friend so we can try to work through this, but I wish that would be more of a, hey,

take accountability for what you did and then stop talking about it. Yes, that would be nice. Now, part of me thinks that Tamara brought Jen on because she knew that this was going on and completely railroaded her. Of course. But the fact that Jen is leaning into it,

thinking that this is a good story that's going to make people like her, is wild. It's not only just like in that moment thinking that the other housewives are going to kind of cling on to you and be like, yeah, you know, you're saying all the right things, you're doing all the right things, you know, you're here now, it's okay, blah, blah, blah. At least you're open about it.

I think what we're starting to see is, obviously, Gina is completely against that, and she has a really hard time facing it. But she's trying. She's trying. She is trying, yes. And she has no reason to either. No, she has no reason to either. But I think that I'm more in the court of, like, Heather sitting there just trying to hear the story

and figure out that this is bullshit. The whole thing has to be bullshit. when she keeps doing this and now we start to get the little clips of Jen sitting down with Tamara and then Tamara talking to other people there are inconsistencies to her quote unquote truth here

and what we've heard from Tamara from day one is there was an instant connection there was a physical attraction they were missing together they were doing all these other things together behind closed doors like we know that there was more there and I think that Jen thinks

that she's smarter than the average bear and she's not she's not this isn't throwing people off your trail maybe if you did it once Maybe if in that first episode you were pretty open about it with the new women that you're sitting down with and you walk through it and you just say, look, like I had a much worse affair. It was an emotional affair, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And kept it at that. Maybe people are going to dig too deep into it. No, but you keep bringing it up. And you keep bringing it up. And you keep talking about it. And you keep pushing further and bringing out new information. It's going to be inconsistent because it's half of its lies. And that's what Tamara says is that there's inconsistencies. And Gina says to Jen, look, I'm hearing this from the source pretty much. Your friend. the one that brought you on the show

is telling me that there's inconsistencies. She has a strange relationship with the truth. That's a big thing to say about your quote-unquote friend. And Jen is pissed. She's like, I can't believe she would say those things. Those tears were fake as fuck. She's like, I love Will. I'm like, stop it.

That's not real. No one's falling for that shit again. The tears were for herself because she. She wants to feel like a better person, I guess. But that's where I'm like, all right, look, if you're going to be this gung-ho about your affair, you can't then now now you feel bad yeah now you feel bad about will like no no come on you can't sit there and act the only time that we're even talking about will is when it's an accessory to you

talking about your affair story yes exactly this is the first time the husband that you cheated on shouldn't be an afterthought he shouldn't just be a little piece of nugget of information in here that we're you know oh yeah there's a third guy involved here no it's your fucking husband like that should be at the forefront like you betrayed him which i think is why gina is having such a hard time too maybe she doesn't even realize it, is because she's casting Will aside entirely. And only talking about Ryan and talking about how much, you know, yeah, I know his past, but he does everything under the moon for me, every time that I need something, he's always there for me. Because he's cheating on you, and that makes it look better.

Yes, exactly. And it's the same behavior that you're doing right now by explaining it away and saying that you know that he's the right person for you and you're happy with him and you know that you can count on him. Like none of it makes sense. And the more that she talks about it, the worse it gets. Yeah, I agree. And moving on from there, we get Shannon and Tamara again. This is kind of the scene where they officially reconnect.

They agree to just move on, let bygones be bygones, because they do clearly have a connection with one another. So good to see, like you said, they're able to move past some shit finally. And then the ladies head out for a little camp out. And I really like this scene, not because of the ladies, but, like, I would fucking love that. I would love that setup. so much.

I thought it was so cool. And I hated that they didn't appreciate it. Of course they didn't appreciate it. It's bison and trout, when done well, is so fucking good. Trout when done well is so good. Doing it over a campfire, letting the smoke infuse into it like that is the best way to do it. Like, that's a fucking meal.

And they are acting like, I love when people get so grossed out at the process of cooking food that they eat regularly. Right. You eat fish all the time. But hearing the fact that you wait until the eyes turn white and pop like that, oh, you can't eat it now? you're not eating the eyeballs like grow up i hate when people act like this about food like ew icky it's fucking food grow the fuck up like i it gets under we're eating bison yes you're

eating bison it's a leaner cow that's what bison meat is it's a leaner cow that's it like it tastes delicious it's very rich in flavor if you cook it right it's spectacular grow up fucking grow up i can't like are you gonna cut the head off oh my god you can't eat it if it's staring at you like that shit it drives me there's one way to look at it and then there's another way to look at it where I think Tamara was naming all the animals. Like, this is Louis the fish. Yeah, no, I wouldn't name the food. No, that's a bad move.

Yeah, that's kind of sociopathic. But, you know, to each their own, I guess, just don't complain about eating good food that people are cooking for you. They're taking the time out of their day to work with you women. It's got to be a fucking nightmare. You see the two ranch hands sitting down like, Jesus, where's that bottle of wine? Yeah. Like, they're going through it.

And you can't even be like, ooh, a new experience. I'll try it. It's got a head. It's got eyes. Everything you eat that's meat. has eyes. Okay? Okay. Moving on. This is when everyone's kind of standing around having a conversation and Tamara says to Taylor, did we make fun of her? Like, did we make fun of her once? It's like, yeah, actually multiple times. But anyway, let's keep going with what Gina's saying.

And Gina said, you guys were making fun. And they go, I mean, we were being sarcastic. That's making fun. That's making fun. Arguably, that's worse than just like making fun because sarcasm comes a little stank on it. Yeah, of course. And I, the whole, this whole seem is a little rough just with Tamara gaslighting the whole situation. Yeah, then she just gets defensive and starts yelling. That's the biggest thing is if it came from Taylor and Taylor's like, no, I wasn't poking fun, but we were looking at your IMDB after you scorned me for trying to invite you on to the set so that you can get your acting career off the ground and you completely

laughed at me and made me feel like I was lesser than because you said it was cute. If Taylor did these things, I would be fine with it. Tamara being involved and making fun of her in the first place, all right, I get it. You might just fall subject to in the moment with Taylor making a joke. Fine, whatever. You can apologize for that and move on. But sitting there and gaslighting or saying that you didn't make fun of her when you did. And the fact that you're involved at all is just your own doing.

You're involved at this point. You could step out. You don't have anything to do with this. Just say, oh, yeah, maybe we did make a sarcastic comment. I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. Because you're going to see it later. I always think about these things.

Like, you're going to see it later. Heather's going to see this episode and realize, like, yeah, you were cackling at, this. You were laughing at my IMDB. You were laughing at my resume. That's a whole thing. A whole separate issue. You're not getting lumped in with Taylor. You were not, you were not inconvenienced by this. You were not disrespected by Heather. So you're not righteous in this moment. But the crazy thing is Tamara's like, why are you involving yourself? And she's like, I'm trying to check on my friend, Heather. Heather fucking defends Tamara. I know. She says to Gina. Like, nah, dude, you don't get it. I'm with Tamara here. It's like,

Gina's getting crucified for standing up for her friend and her friend takes Tamara's side who's talking shit about Heather. The whole thing made no sense. And this is where the patterns thing comes up. Jen goes, I want to talk about like your patterns. You have some patterns, Tamara. When she said that, I recognize the patterns throughout the episode.

And I'm like, you know what? You're 100% right because then we see it again. I wrote pattern really big right here. what Tamara does, because she later sits down with Jen after they kind of blow up at each other, what Tamara's patterns are. She will start some shit, say some shit, lie, gets caught in a lie, tries to make up, and immediately says, I just want to move forward. Yep.

I just want to move forward with you. That's her move. She can do whatever the fuck she wants to do, say whatever the fuck she wants to say. Look at her podcast. She does it all the time. She says random things. She makes accusations. When she's called out about it, she apologized.

says let's move on and if people want to sit on it longer like Shannon in the beginning I said to you I wish that Shannon was able to just make you know what chalk it up let's just move forward after watching Tamara more and more I'm like you know what I wish that Shannon would have made her apologize for those two years

because this is what Tamara does she fucks up apologizes and expects people to get over it and when they don't she makes them out to be the problem I'm waiting to see if somebody calls her out for trying to get information for her podcast because of the way that she the way her and Teddy run that podcast and they pull up all this information about other housewives

and they always say that they were there for things that they weren't there for and they always say that they were on to things that they definitely didn't know. I'm waiting for that fourth wall break for somebody to be like, oh, you're going to talk about this on your podcast? Oh my God, I would love a fourth wall break about two T's. And I would love for this to get back to them because if we need a feud with anybody, I will love a feud between the bros and two T's. I think that'd be funny. But that pretty much wraps up the episode. We get a quick combo with Heather and Gina, and I didn't agree with Heather here. So, Gina is very upset, because again, we're talking about the affair and the I'm

going to fuck her thing comes up, and the hypocrisy of Tamara outing this to the group in that setting, I thought was crazy. Well, because she gets upset when anybody airs out her shit, but she's able to do it with Jen. But that's what she was doing. She was deflecting. As soon as somebody brought up her patterns in the way that she goes, she had something ready to roll. Yeah, and she does that immediately.

And then Shannon, again, kind of garners support for Jen saying, look, there was a real connection there. Like, is it the greatest way in the world to go about it? No, but they have a real connection. Gina's totally right. No, it's still fucked up. Heather. No, it's still fucked up. We didn't even hold hands.

It does not matter. The connection was there. He's sitting in your car because Tamara goes, well, Will caught you guys having sex in your car. She's like, no, he was just giving me a gift. If you're hiding from your husband. It was his teeny ween. Here's my little dick in a box or a little dick in a ring box. But if that has to happen, if you're hiding from your husband to give, sorry, receive a gift from

another man, that's cheating. You're cheating. So the whole thing is fucked. For Heather to say it's fucked is correct. For Gina to say it's fucked is correct. For Gina to want to call her boyfriend and talk to him about it, I don't think is a problem. I think that that's an open line of communication. Do I understand what Heather's saying like, hey, he's your boyfriend.

You're dating. He might not want to hear about your ex. sure, at the same time for a healthy adult relationship to move forward, if this is something that's burdening, Gina, hey, I haven't gotten through this yet as much as I thought I did. I have some more shit I need to err out. As a partner, Travis needs to be able to hear that, have a productive conversation. Maybe he's not the guy to sit there and like let her vent all the time. Right.

But you need to be able to go to your partner and say, hey, I'm struggling with this. I need help. Can you help me out? And his job is to be like, yeah, I got your back. Yeah, that's what a partner does for Heather to be like, you shouldn't do that. You shouldn't share so much with Travis. It's like, no, that's what you should do. It's almost like Heather wants Gina to protect herself against Travis or against getting into that.

Exactly. Yeah. And that's where I was really confused by the whole thing is I fully agree with you. Like that is, if that's where Gina wants to go for her outlet, that's actually a really good sign for the relationship. It's a very healthy outlet. Yeah, that's what it's supposed to be. So, and they're married now too. So obviously.

Yeah, they got married in June. Even more so. Everything is even better now. So clearly just let her. go do that. Now I get it if Heather's thinking like maybe she's being a little dramatic about the whole thing. I err on the side that she's being a little dramatic about this. I get

it. But how can you speak on that? What do you mean? Have you ever been cheated on in a marriage? No. Then you don't know. But I, just because I was cheated on in a marriage doesn't mean that when somebody else is talking about this for the seventh time in my face, I'm going to start

bawling my eyes out and run away. She has some more demons that she hasn't worked through and this is a good indicator of, hey, maybe I need to do some more soul searching, you heartless prick. Maybe she should, but I thought that that was... You are the heartless prick. I thought it was a touch dramatic. I thought it was a little too much.

You're too much. And I don't think that she should have ran away and went and cried in a track. I wish you would go run away and trying to cracker. Cractor? Cractor. Yeah. Cractor it is. But that takes us to our questions.

We're only going to do a couple since we gave you guys our personal questions this time. But from E. Fitz-07, is Tamara an amazing producer? or a shitty friend, arguably both. Shitty friend. Yeah, I would lean further on shitty friends. She's trying to be a good producer, but she's a very shitty friend. She's a horrible friend, but she is working her ass off as a producer, and some of it's landing, so I can't say she's a shitty producer, but she is a terrible friend.

From Fiona Banks, do you think that Tamara brought Jen on just to blow up her spot and secure another season? 1,000% yes. I think she completely railroaded Jen. I don't even think they're really friends. I hope that Jen sticks it out, and Tamara gets the boot. If it comes to that. Now, I don't think that either of them deserve the boot. They're both bringing enough to the show.

We'll see if Jen can get off of this. The affair. If she can get past the infidelity thing and move on to greener pastures, no pun intended, since they're on a pasture of Montana, thank you, bang, bing. But if she can move forward after this, because it's a decent start, it's dragging now, but it was a solid start because it's captivating enough for us to what the fuck's going on. If she can move into her next thing, I think she's got a shot to stick around for a while. It's not a question.

It's a statement, but I think it's a little crazy. From Nancy S321, Gina is giving me Danielle from Summerhouse fives. No, dude. No. No. No. I'm not saying that you can't have that opinion. I'm just saying.

That's way different. Danielle was way, way more volatile than this. She was involved in everything. Now, if Gina started to talk to other people. people about Ryan and find out for herself that he was cheating on Jen and then talk to Ryan directly and then blow up their spot maybe maybe but that she has a long way to go to get Daniel a long way to go before she gets to Daniel but uh that's all I got you got anything else nope well hopefully you guys enjoyed our little bit different episode I really enjoyed it so I hope

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