Bros & Shows - Giovanni, Jackasses and Meredith Marks (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

What's up Bros? This season of RHOSLC is a masterclass. In this episode, we wrap up a LOT of loose ends, primarily with Meredith and everyones issues with her. Half the group goes cooking with a Grecian God while the other half goes on a donkey ride through Santorini. Whitney apologizes for calling her a pill popper, etc... Meredith accepts and comes to the pool party with a whole new attitude. Our only issue with this season was the repeat issues about the same topics. Well the ladies heard us loud and clear and we are MOVING ON. Bravo RHOSLC, Bravo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don't know if everybody's going to get the same thing that I did from this episode. But this was a masterclass. This was so good. And because the beginning was not and the end was what it was. I was, I don't know, this was a great episode of Housewives, top the bottom for me. For everyone, I thought you were going to say it's a masterclass from one individual. And I know I was really curious to see who you were. No, no, no.

Cross the board. This is a cast win. this was this was why salt lake is salt lake yep i think i'm going to have an unpopular opinion but i'm going to wait to get into that one shows bros and shows i got to have me my pros and shows bros and shows bros and shows i got to have me my bros and shows good evening everybody welcome back to another episode of bros and shows i'm your co-host steel russell joined as always by the one and only Pasitano

Magoutes. What's up, dude? No, Positano. Positano is fucking Italian. Where are they? Let me help you out here. Hold on. Santorini.

We are in Santorini. But when we get to the cooking class, that cook is half Italian and half Greek. So you're not super wrong. I'll take that. Yeah. But that stinks because I could have done, fuck, where are they?

Santorini. Cintorini. Shootereney. Shooter's weenie. What's up, dude? All of that just to get there. I'll take it. That's a little thing.

Oh, God. That's the little things. Hey, oh. That was a pun. More like the micro things. But microaggressions is when I get mad. He went from a micro penis joke to a microaggression. I can't even talk.

Let's keep moving. Yeah. Why don't we just keep moving? Why don't we just keep moving? This was a classic trip type of episode. It's mid-trip. People are getting ornery. People aren't used to being away from their families,

which doing this on Mother's Day is fucking hilarious. But people are just a little out of their element. They're not used to having to be around everyone. And we usually get this. Sometimes it falls apart. sometimes it shows up. And this episode really showed up for me. Yeah.

And I think it's because there's a lot of dynamics at play, obviously, and the way that it starts out, obviously, there's a lot of things where I'm kind of rolling my eyes. I'm like, oh, boy, these are all kind of orange flags, not red flags, but orange flags for things that we look for when a season's going the wrong direction. And people weren't showing up. Meredith's not talking.

I'm like, fuck, this is going to. totally tank halfway through the episode boop 180 which in turn makes the beginning good which is so funny because like the beginning for me originally I'm like the first 20 minutes 15 whatever I'm like this is annoying but then when the end happens I'm like oh the beginning was great too it just led me to this yeah I think that when I think about it especially you know a few hours removed from watching it does kind of all merge together but now that you're bringing it up i did have that feeling where i was waiting for shit to pop off i'm like we're not really going to have another boring episode not the last week was boring but it was it's a travel day

in terms of things you know you can go one of two ways on a travel day you either just go too hard too fast and you just get great content or you just are sleepy tired whatever you're not really performing so i think that's what we got last week and there was some cleanup issues and just some weird things that happened this week was not that now i was worried we were were falling into that trap again, and then I was worried that we were in a position where everyone's just uncomfortable. Meredith is making people uncomfortable. Whitney's making people uncomfortable. Heather, most of all, making people uncomfortable. Are we just not going to have the interactions that we need to have on this trip? But they put all that away. Pretty much,

once you get into a sprinter van, it's like, okay, let's, it's go time. I think that everybody knows both at home and on these shows. If you're in a sprinter van, it's time to do your job. It's time to show up to work. If you're in a sprinter van, these are some of the biggest most iconic moments that we've ever had, especially like Salt Lake set the tone of sprinter vans almost with the Jen Shaw arrest. Then he fast forward. You get the Brittany filming things on like their sprinter van moments. New Gen, new gen, I would say. New Gen for sure. Obviously, you go back in O. Steve, you go back in Rooney. Their sprinter vans are epic. But I agree with you. When I think Sprinter van for Salt Lake, I think Jen Shaw is getting arrested. I think Heather is

peeing and throwing up at the same time in a sprinter van i think mary's going to get mcdonald's like there are some great moments for soln league specifically obviously that you can leave um those are the types of things that we look forward to on a show like this so we've got a lot to unpack why don't we just hop right in that's my line let's start out with the morning and i love the friendship commandments on the wall i love that we're putting things up a bit that's a great bit And I feel like we've gotten away from bits on a lot of shows, stuff like this. And more of them are going to come in later. There was a lot of things showing up this episode.

And this kind of set the tone where it's like, oh, we're getting back into housewives. Like, this is what we watch these shows for. So I was really happy to see that. And it's a little many things, but it's also just weird documents, weird pieces of paper that Bravo can put on display at a Bravo con. Exactly. That is what this is. and I'm okay with it. Same.

I'm 100% fine with it. But it's bingo rules. It's like a sticker chart, but you kind of cross off something if you see somebody do something. But we get poolside with everybody. And the vibes are high. And that's the first thing I noticed. And like Lisa is doing like the mission impossible against the wall to like fuck around

with Angie who they're both laughing. They're both having fun. We talked about last week. So bad. They will. I think they will. They just had to work through some things. And after watching that interaction, watching Lisa with the ladies, she's fully back.

She's 100% back. She is back to form. Thank God. I know we talked about it last week, but she is fully back, which is great to see. And as you said, it's Mother's Day. So everyone's like, oh, yeah, you know, we're away from our kids. Heather's not beating the allegations that she hates her kids. It's not, now I'm getting annoyed with it, though, not from Heather's perspective.

I'm not getting annoyed at it. I'm getting annoyed at the people online that are taking that to heart that are really ripping into it. Oh, is that a real thing? Oh, dude, it's a real thing. Like, we've been making this joke for the whole season,

but people are really taking offense to it. And it makes no serious. Let's just put this in like, just the cleanest of terms. It's families. It's your, think about your parents that were just excited for you to go away to college.

Like, I can't wait to get you out of here. I love you so much, but I can't wait to just have my, in space and not have to worry about stocking the fridge and worrying about you coming home for dinner, are you or aren't you? It's just those little things. That's what Heather's doing. Yes, she's saying it a little too much, but it's Mother's Day. This is actually topical. It makes sense. There's no reason to take offense to this. There's no reason to take it as far as to say she

actually hates her kids. It's ridiculous. I'm like 100 million percent kidding. I don't think she hates her children at all. I don't know if that was an actual thing going on. Yeah, last night, last night takes the game. It is a real thing. Oh, the other thing that we do need to add, I did see something and it's unsubstantiated, but at least for the next two weeks, there is no Salt Lake. Really? Yep. We're right in the holiday, right in the middle of the holidays.

Fucking, the holidays get weird on Bravo. And it might be three weeks. We might not have it for three weeks. That, no, that happened last year. We don't have to do, why, what? Because they chuck up New Year's to not air anything. It's New Year's. Yeah, it's a holiday but like come on yeah we're watching stranger things on new year's eve but like i'm watching i'm watching stranger things on christmas day yep the minute that shit comes out i'm finishing that

series football slate hell that might be the worst slate mad dog was talking about it on the spian today how bad oh mad dog yeah mad dog babe i was in the gym and it was on i don't watch yespn anymore but i can just imagine you coming over watching first take and just getting so angry because you always fall for the rage pain every time i guess so exist. So I've stopped. I've stopped watching because of that. What do you mean Stephen A's running for president? What the hell?

He probably will. In this day and age, like, he probably will. Yeah, who gives a fuck anymore? I vote for him. I'll vote. Yeah. No politics. Anyway, I'm still flummoxed by the fact that people are actually taking Heather

seriously. I'm trying to get back on track here. Anyway, Brittany. Oh, Brittany. She's like, this is bittersweet, you know? because everyone's really close with their kids. They're all talking about their kids. Like, my relationship's more nuanced.

No, it's not. It's not a nuance. You were a bad mom and you're trying to rebuild your fractured relationship with your daughter and trying to learn how to pick her over shitty dudes. That's not a nuanced, complicated relationship. No, we just talked about this in Beverly Hills yesterday. We give credit to most all of the housewives because they raise the best kids and they all have great relationships with their kids, except for Brittany.

She is the lone exception that I can think of right now. You need to keep your mouth shut. Like you just have to. And I know she does it a couple times this episode. She has nowhere with all. She has no awareness of her situation and how it's going to turn people off. How it's going to rub everyone the wrong way, the less we talk about it, the less we're going to hate you.

You're best and you look the best to the audience and the other girls when you're just yourself and quirky and weird and doing weird shit. like you would at the end with the trademark stuff. But when it comes to your family and when it comes to Jared, you piss everybody off. So just keep your mouth shut. Don't talk about it until everything's fixed if it gets fixed. She tries to act like her situation, which is different.

She says it's different, but she brings it up as though it's the same amongst the women. Like they'll be talking about like a nice moment. She's like, oh, yeah, that's like that one time I was supposed to meet my daughter. And I left her stranded to go have sex with Jared. And everyone's like, what? No. She acts like she got dealt a shitty hand.

I was really playing against everybody. I tried to beat it against the odds. I just lost, you know? It happens. No, it absolutely doesn't. Your daughter is literally asking for the bare minimum and you can't even give her that. You don't get the talk. This actually isn't your day.

It's everybody else's day. You have relinquished your title. Yeah. But she does make a good point. You know, things are pretty bubbly and light. Everyone's having fun. Can't help but notice. person missing doesn't help that Meredith's appearance this morning already was cranky

mayor trying to get coffee like is that ready yet you got you got ends trying to like dig out the coffee she's like I did something but it'll be there and she like saunter's off like it goes back to her a hole and you don't see her again until later on she comes out to get her coffee or whatever but it's a good point and last week we left on a note where you know Meredith was starting to talk a little bit more we agreed that Whitney has a lot to answer for that Heather needs to tone it down. So we were kind of taking her side, but there's a middle ground. And she went so far the other way to I'm full-blown victim.

You guys keep picking on me that it just, that's where I started to get nervous. I'm like, oh, no, like you need to be able to tap in at some point. We need to be able to see you at least smile or have fun with these ladies. Or you can't be a stick in the mud for an entire cast trip. Like, that's ridiculous. us. So I pulled an Angel Massey and I slept on it. I love it.

I am in full support of Meredith doing this. It's so funny. I didn't think it was that funny. I thought it was annoying. It's only funny because everybody else is getting along. And she seems to pick and choose the people that she wants to be cool with. I think the entire episode and the entire trip and you can even go back a few episodes, what they're trying to do is actively separate Lisa and Meredith.

That's actually what they're trying to do. And yes, I know they're trying to, like, not allow Lisa to speak up. There are certain times where you guys are just hounding and not accepting the question and you're not accepting the answer that Meredith is giving you. And then Lisa steps up to provide context that Meredith is not willing to give. That's okay. That's completely fine. Not every time that Lisa opens her mouth, she's a speaker for Meredith.

She's just trying to get you to shut up because it's annoying. So that's, you know, when Whitney's talking and Heather's talking, that's what's going on. And they're just painting it a completely different way. But with Meredith, her this whole episode, and she was still grumpy and she was still very moody, it was hilarious. I mean, we got some, we got a few great moments this episode from her. We did. I guess, I don't know, for me, and like I said, the end makes the beginning great. Like, I have no issues with the episode as a whole.

So don't take it that way. Like I said, it just made me nervous because. Yeah, that's fine. Like, I totally get where it could be entertaining where you're like, oh, that's funny. like grumpy mayor just like stomping around i wasn't enjoying it because i'm like i need you to show up a little bit like please show up a little bit i think that's where i am right now where everybody's saying that everybody's asking for merrith to show up to do more is her job in jeopardy is she going to be demoted to a friend up this is something from meredith her being grumpy

the whole time is something i think maybe the bar is just incredibly low for her because i know that she has those funny moments in there that she's not really trying to make, but she does them anyway. Her crying to the chef later is fucking hilarious. Admittedly so, it is objectively very funny. Her stomping off in the middle of everything and walking away from everybody, still funny. I still love all of those moments, and I think that's enough for Meredith, whereas everybody else is on the team of, we need more.

That is more. It's just you want positive Meredith. Positive Meredith doesn't really exist. I don't want positive Meredith. I want more so that she can do these things and I'm not looking for more. Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, because then these moments would be funnier to me because I'm not concerned about her never showing up.

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Listen to Vulgar History, Regency era, wherever you get podcasts. Well, Mary and Meredith have a little conversation. This is copy-paste the same exact convo that Mary had with Heather about trying to get past. this whole thing and she says the same thing like please tell her how you feel like mary's gotten to the point now where she's like exasperated meredith she's worried about her heather she's annoyed by her she wants this to go away but the root of all of it is her concern for meredith which comes up later it comes up in scenes from next week so that's she's worried and she just wants this to be over so she can either continue to analyze meredith or at least it's a step in a positive direction

she'll worry less and i imagine given what's going on with robert junior and i'm not by any means saying that meredith has a substance abuse problem right right right right but given where robert junior is currently and during this episode i'm sure there's some some flags raised for her where she's worried about it and it doesn't help that whitney's out there throwing false accusations around willy-nilly so the root of mary's concern is i hope it's not but i just want to know how you're doing So, like, that's where we're at right now. There's two versions of, quote, unquote, concern for your friend. There's the right side, which is what Mary's doing.

The check-ins, trying to, she's trying to make her accountable, but only in a way that a real friend can that actually cares about you, that's trying to just get you to open up. Like, all right, I understand where you are, but you're in this position. The only way out of this position is by doing X, Y, and Z. That's what Mary's trying to do. And that is actually helpful. then there's the other quote unquote concern for your friends that Whitney's doing that's not helpful

it doesn't look good it makes you look really bad and you're actually adding fuel to the fire so it doesn't help anyone and I know that you're worried about her going on her healing journey or she wants to go up she needs to go see the sunset in Santoridi and then maybe she'll feel a little bit better I don't fucking know I have no idea what Whitney's trying to do or what her motives are but everything she's doing is wrong every single thing that she's doing is wrong and I don't agree with any of it. I like watching Mary do this. And I think you're right. I think you can draw some parallels, very loose, very loose, yes. But there is obviously concern from Mary's camp with Robert Jr. And maybe some of it spilling over to other things in her friendship where she's doing

the thing of, wow, I can't believe that I didn't notice this was going on. It kind of is a little eye opening. Maybe it's a little too eye opening. Maybe you're noticing it in other people and you're not really painting them in that way. But it would make sense. It's a human thing to do. Exactly. And I think that's where she's at. And when you look at Whitney versus Mary and their approach,

Mary's doing it on behalf of Meredith. Whitney's doing it on behalf of Whitney. And that's the difference. And Heather, yes, the cousins. So Cuzzos are over here being idiots. Mary's just worried about her friend. That's the difference. But let's get in a sprinter van.

Nothing bad happens in Sprinter vans. And we're headed to the donkeys or cooking. So we can go donkey or cooking. We do this with every split activity. Where are you going? See, after watching both of them, you still get to eat the food if you go on donkey. So I'm going donkey. I wish we could go donkey like we're actually going.

I wish we could go donkey to dinner, but to cook also. Like take the donkey to Giovanni's and cook the food. That's my ideal day. So I'm going to do both. I'm going to break the game. I'm going to do both. Anyway, we split up the groups on the spinner van and cranky mare. It's like, hey, Meredith, how's the group sound?

Not positive. Not positive. Funny. Funny response. I need funny now. What the fuck did you think was going to happen? Like, I know that we always say, try to settle these things in a group situation. That's absurd.

Putting her with those three makes zero sense. You put her with one of them. Throw Whitney in there, but also put Lisa in there. so she has a little bit of backup and then throw like Brahmin in there because it seems like Meredith and Bronwyn are getting along. Then at least she feels okay and then she can have that conversation with Whitney. By putting her with Brittany in there too, like Britney, Heather and Whitney, that's just overkill. It's absurd that they thought she was going to be like, all right, yeah, okay.

Of course she's not going to want to do that. Like, what did you think was going to happen? And then you're going to just look at her and say that she's being grumpy. Of course she is. Heather takes it upon herself to dive in. And she goes off the rails, like this, that, the other. Now, this is the struggle part. Meredith's not blameless, right?

Yeah. Like she's just very good at what she's doing. And she does this all the time to the point where now I'm going, Heather, leave her alone. But at the same time, it's like, well, no, you do have a gripe. So you should be able to voice that. And the problem is you tried, but she wouldn't listen. And now she just placates. And that's what Meredith does.

She will always push to the side, not acknowledge. she's never going to give in and then she becomes the victim somehow and this is the most victim I've ever seen Meredith because now she's full blown just like oh god you know you don't like how I speak you don't like what I said in the plane I guess she said I speak too eloquently to no no no I'm too educated and too eloquent I I love Meredith and that's why like this all comes from a place of like I want Meredith to be good because she's great when she's great. Right. Not one time in listening to her rants or her big moments. Have I ever thought, wow, how eloquent and educated was that? And I'm not calling her stupid by any means.

But the hubspins and the rumors nastiness doesn't scream eloquence. It streams. I've had a couple of drinks. Not in the way where I'm drinking as an alcoholic. It sounds like you had a fun night. and now you're saying some stupid shit. Okay, let me clarify that. But educated and eloquence, not where I would jump. That's where she goes, which is very funny to glimpse inside of her head. And while they're going back and forth, and this plays into her whole thing so well, Brooks calls.

It's Mother's Day. She just picks up. Doesn't even say, like, hold on. Can you give me a sec? I'm going to answer them. It's my son. It's fucking Mother's Day. Just answers the phone, which I get would be irritating.

But it is Mother's Day, Heather. so can we take a pause and let her talk to Brooks and then you can continue no we're going to go to confessional and reenact this with a completely unrelated scenario with you and your fake daughter calling she thought that was the most iconic thing that she's going to do all season it just did not land it was so stupid it doesn't make sense it doesn't make any sense and again it's mother's day her son is calling her now later when she adds some context to that it's very funny but it's In this moment, of course she's going to answer. And of course, she's not going to stop you. She's just going to pick up. At least her ringer was on, so everybody knew that her phone was ringing. But of course, she's going to pick up when Brooks is calling her on Mother's Day. It's not that big of a deal.

Everybody goes silent after this, just awkwardly quiet until somebody cracks a joke about, well, you know, this is actually my ideal Mother's Day because Meredith is feeling so bad. I just want to be home. I want to be with my family. It's Mother's Day. I just want to do that. I've never once. And by the way, if people are going to go after the other women in this group because they want to be away on Mother's Day, it's Mother's Day.

Yeah, you want to be with your kids, whatever. But if they want to go have a holiday trip with their other friends that are mothers, go right ahead. Go have some fun. So there's no, like, wrong way to look at this. Everybody's just going to do whatever they want to do. The wrong thing to do is reenact that and make fun of her for answering the phone for her son on Mother's Day. Agreed. Now, was it to the level that Meredith turns it in?

into? No. Brooks isn't dying. It's not him on his deathbed. You can talk to him tomorrow probably. But she's like, it was the one chance I had to talk to him. And I was going to be on an airplane. They have Wi-Fi on an airplane. You can text them. That's a big time change. Time-time. Time-time. Time time. Time. Oh, God. I sound educated and eloquent. There is there is a small little window in there where she's awake and Brooks is not on a plane. Makes sense to me. I don't know what the big deal is, guys.

Yeah, it's just a talent, Sean. But we get no apology from Meredith until Heather gives her last hurrah. She's like, you know, this wasn't a quid pro quo, which I agreed with actually. Meredith turned this somehow into, well, you fucked me over. I fucked you over. Let's call it a draw. It's like, no, you did throw the first stone, Meredith. Heather has since made a mess herself.

But you did over an apology. So Mary finally goes, I'm sorry, which I was like, that's good. That's enough, right? Guys, we can agree. Like she said it, but then she follows up, I don't know what else to say. I'm like, why? You always throw that last thing in there that negates what you just said. I think it's just vibes because she's done it before.

And I don't, I mean, I really don't think that it would have been over if she just ended it. I'm sorry. Because the way things are going, not with Heather. She's already on a rampage. She's going to find something else. and they're already using Brittany whose B-Fit actually is that was squashed to say

oh, you don't even want to be around Brittany? Brittany and I squashed this. We're done. We're good. We're moving past this. You won't let go of it because of something I said along the way where I walked off the plane

and it was a little mean. I'm sorry, okay? That's not going to be good enough for Heather. She needs a whole explanation. She needs a full breakdown and I'm sorry. She needs to cry and hug and do all that. And then we can move on

and make a fucking spectacle of it. I'm just, I'm tired of that. That's why I think I'm so far, like you said, we're at the point now where, yes, Meredith is not blameless. But if you keep annoying us, we're going to go completely to the other side and support Meredith. So play that game if you want to. That's her game.

I know. That's what she always does. And she somehow pulls it off. But Lisa chiming in. And Heather getting mad about it's stupid because Lisa chimes in. Thank God she's back. And you can tell she's back with. like this. This is not Lisa standing up for her friend because everyone else is picking on her

and she needs support. This is Lisa identifying the problem. This is not about this. Okay, this all goes back to Whitney and Meredith. And if Meredith's not going to speak up about it, I will. She's pissed about what Whitney said. Whitney's pissed at Meredith, but Whitney needs to be accountable for what she said. It was fucked up. And then we pile on to Lisa, which again, she's back so she doesn't get rattled. She's like, look, hey, like, I'm just calling it. like I see it. Here's what's going on. Whatever, guys. But it started to give me hope because the van gets the destination. And we just, we get off the van, which was great. But not before Lisa lists. And this is the first time we've mentioned it, which is like baffling, especially with

this group. The first time somebody lists, well, you called her a pill popper, an alcoholic, and a cheater. Yep. Nothing. No one really kind of. to anything because we get off the van. And it's in response to Whitney also wanting an apology from Meredith. Correct. And again, for what? For Meredith's behavior to herself? That's how we're putting it.

That's how we're guiding this through is she's quote unquote a pill popper, an alcoholic, and a cheater. And that's really upsetting to me and I need an apology. That makes no sense. It just doesn't make any sense. Stay out of this, Whitney. You already said too much. A normal person after getting all like hot and bothered and calling somebody a pill pop or an alcoholic, hot and bothered, whatever, and calling somebody, I saw your face, but calling

somebody those things, you would immediately have an oh shit moment. And if you don't, the next day, you'd be like, oh, fuck, yeah, probably shouldn't have said that. She has no remorse. She truly doesn't because she thinks it's true. And she also thinks that she's got concern as a friend, that this is the only way to break through. And it's just simply not. It doesn't work anywhere. No, no, it doesn't. But everyone gets off the van and we split up and we go to, Giovanni's first. My God. What a handsome Grecian man.

Half Italian. Have Italian. A little Zeus in that guy. This is like, you know, Zeus in retirement. I get it. I totally get it.

If Heather got his number, I could see this as a movie. Like Zeus is retiring from Godship and he's coming down to just cook women food. Like that sounds great. I mean, he had 50 fucking wives, so it makes sense to me.

This is how he got him. Come on to say, hey, come on to Santorini. Come on. Come hang out with Gio, Gio, aka Zeus. Now, the other crew gets to their donkeys, and Angie doesn't speak Greek. She knows some Greek because this was uncomfortable. And I felt bad for her, too, because we're talking to the donkeys, do they bite? And the donkey handlers are like, yeah, totally.

It's going to be a great time. No, do they bite? Yep, you're going to have a blast. Lisa asks Angie, tell them. do ask if they bite and angie you can tell was racking her brain like oh how can i even know close to the word what exactly exactly she was like what can i say that they won't know i'm not saying it but it'll be close enough and she's stuck and she just goes no they don't right right right i can bite on bite no okay no okay no okay great no we're good everybody's fine now i will

say the funny thing is when you get to see and obviously they want to split up meredith and lisa Lisa was just in the midst of that too She was getting yelled at Like you said it was about to be a pile on But she handled herself great She just immediately moved on And that's what makes Lisa very good But it also shows you what makes Meredith

Not so great Meredith wants nothing to do with those women She walks away Lisa actually nothing happens I'm still gonna have fun I'm not gonna let this ruin my trip You guys are trying to do the same shit to me That you did on the yacht

Which was weird behavior from Lisa When she did that and shied away from all of that But now she's back and she's good and she can move on quickly. The one thing I will say to you, we get a little story from Angie while we're on these donkeys going uphill. You know, my dad,

he grew up here and it's just amazing. He had to travel 17 miles every day on a donkey to go get groceries and come back up. You know what that is. You know exactly what that is. Yeah, I had to walk uphill back and forth to school in the ice with no shoes. Yeah.

Every dad in the world does that. And once you reach a certain age, that story gets more. and more longer. And it's going to be something else that we have to talk about. There's a new wrinkle added in there. I'm sure he just told her

that he was barefoot like three or four years ago. He's just adding shit in there. That's what that was. Angie, because she believes everything Greek, just assumes that that's the truth. I can't believe that we came from this. We're so blessed with our Porsches and our Lamborghinis that he had to go walk barefoot with a donkey for 17 miles.

Didn't happen, but I still love the story. Yeah. And we do know, like, he came from struggle and he did have to work his way to get to the States. And he did live in a small village. He probably was barefoot sometimes. And with the donkey, now 17 miles, I don't know. I don't know.

That sounds like, you know, I had to walk 10 miles back and forth to school. But I agree with you. That was the quintessential dad, which I think once, like, I know I'm only 35, but I have two kids. Like, can I still saying that? I'm starting to feel it. I think so. All right. Yeah, I'm going to start dropping that.

Yeah. Yeah, pop gets you on Friday. I'm just going to be like, you're lucky. I could drive you. back from the airport back in my day i had to walk home from the airport oh there we got my day we had to flap our own wings you know what's that joke uh just flew in my tired which is fitting because lisa makes a dad joke on the donkey what do you call a donkey that goes to college a smart ass love that the war is over and both sides lost kingdoms were reduced to cinders

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But Lisa can separate it, even to the point where they get to the top of the hill and they're talking about the situation. And she can offer some things up that she agrees with. She disagrees with the fact where they're like, you need to let her do her own thing. She's like, yeah, okay, whatever, not going to do that. But the other part is like, yeah, she's kind of inhibiting herself in connecting with the group. She says that in so many words. So it's like, okay, she's locked the fuck in.

That gets me excited. And she's right on both sides. No, you cannot bail on Meredith and not have her back because this group's going to eat her alive right now. They're just fiending for her to have another misstep. So I agree with that. And yes, you are also right. Meredith is getting in her own way.

So great job, LB. Yeah. Yeah, it's the best way to just completely put everything into perspective and allow everyone to move on because I do think that this group does thrive when things. are spoken. And obviously, we don't have Heather and Whitney there to bog us down. If you get to talk to the rest of the women who are having a normal trip and just add a couple layers of context and just say, look, I'm not just speaking over Meredith to help her out. I'm speaking over Meredith because I don't want to deal with this shit. Everybody's going to understand that. And once you do

that to a normal group of women, which is who we have on the donkeys, they're going to understand it. And then you guys can go have fun because you don't have to worry about what's going on over the cooking party. Exactly. And speaking, of Meredith who wandered off by herself when they got there at some point has the realization I don't know where I am I don't know how to get home I have to go back so she goes back she was going to hitchhike at one point I did too actually yeah yeah standing in the middle of the road like what are you doing she's walking in heels down like cobblestones and shit she does have the cameraman at least following her and she knows that so she's never like actually in danger

but she definitely got lost and I bet you when she goes over and look and she's like, where the fuck am I going? They'll only point her back to the cooking class. They're not sending great anywhere else. Up there. Up there. Yeah. You see that bolt of lightning?

Yeah, that's Zeus. I mean, uh, Gios. You see that smoldering older man right there. Oh, boy. Well, she gets back and we get the saddest cheers of all time. That I laughed out loud because they're like, what is it, Yamas? And they're all cheering. She makes no eye contact and she's just like this.

And then they have to go around a second time. she's like oh god and geo goes over there trying to like console her it's like hey she's like well they the ladies haven't been very nice to me he's like hey wine make us happy right come man zip zeus is white Giovanni's wine everything's fun this is fucking great she's crying on this man's stomach like she's really this is the moment where she actually is where it flipped but this is the whole thing is we're going through all of this and she finally shows up and everyone's just sitting there quietly just completely silent talk to her get her no like at least try and talk to her without bringing up like a problem like there's no need to further pursue this

you see where this is pushing her which fine you can say that she deserves it you can say that she needs to answer for her crimes i don't fucking care in this moment it's going to ruin your cooking time why don't you just be nice and if you say some nice things and she responds negatively that's her problem then. But right now it is your problem and no one's saying a word and she just wants someone to hug her. And I was worried that Brittany was going to be the one to walk over and give her hug because that probably wouldn't have gone too well, but would have been funny. She goes the opposite direction because Meredith is now acting as though the whole reason she's upset is Brooks and not being able to talk to Brooks. And I agree with the group where they're like,

no, no, no, this is what you do. You get one more thing and now you use this and act like this is all the probably forget everything else that happened you don't talk about it i do agree with that i still don't think it should have been brought up immediately but whatever after she says that now brittney decides to chime in i haven't talked i didn't talk to my kids for three years not the same you are the reason you didn't talk to your kids for three years because you're an awful mom meredith is not she's a good mom she does have a relationship with her children it is not the same thing she didn't chase some asshole around the world and avoid her kids. You did that. You don't get to chime in on mother talk anymore. If these ladies are talking about their kids, you have to stay and listen

because you deserve it. And you're not allowed to speak on it because it's not relating. She thinks she is, though, in the world of Brittany and the mind of Britney, she's like, oh, yeah, I can relate to that. I've talked to my kids in three years. I don't know where they are. Absolutely insanity. It's crazy work. And understandably, Marith gets upset at it. And then we get everybody back together. So the donkey crew shows up at dinner. We're all sitting down together. And Mary, you can tell, is genuinely concerned because she's like, did we do anything? Like, did we get anywhere? Did you guys talk at all? And they're like, nope, nothing happened. But Lisa steps up in the biggest way that she has in a very long time. And she is the reason that this was

able to finally be put to bed. So huge caduce to her because she starts talking. They claim when all the ladies get there that this is all about Brooks or she's acting this is all about Brooks Lisa's like we're done this is about Whitney this is about Meredith we need to get to the bottom of this you called her all those names you need to apologize Meredith apparently Whitney has an issue

with you as well because of all of this let's get this all out in the air and Whitney goes first again I would imagine apologies from Whitney probably don't do much for people anymore because this is a problem you created

it's something you tried to double, triple, quadruple down on. And now that the group is in shambles, you're like, hey, I shouldn't have said those things. That was inappropriate. I'm sorry, too little too late in my opinion, but it is a step forward. Meredith's response more than enough for me. She goes, okay, great. And just kind of sips or wine.

But we're able to at least squash this. We're able to take a step forward and it's all thanks to Lisa. It did have the feeling of a we're finally moving forward. even though if you look at it plainly, it doesn't feel like that at all with the okay, great response. But for people who have been watching this and people that understand the situation, that is the most you're going to get from Whitney. And like you said, she's said it four times.

You would imagine maybe there's another sentence or two in there in that apology, talking about how she shouldn't have perpetuated it. Maybe I shouldn't have said it in the first place. I feel horrible. Probably would have added in there nicely. But this is the best you're going to get. And the okay, great is the best you're going to get from Meredith. That's really all we need.

That is all we need. And Meredith is exhausted. And she just wants to go from sleep in the Sprinter van. Exactly. And she does. She didn't walk 17 miles in heels, so. Barefoot in heels. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. But she's snoozing on the spinner van. Not much happens, except I need to know what 10-1-2 means. One-two is obviously a P and a Poo. What's a 10? I think it's the, like, maybe it's a 10-4. Like, what are you doing? Are you in the bathroom?

10-1-2. But then it's 10-1 and then 10-2 if you're pooping. Oh, okay. That's kind of where I was getting it from. But do you ever take a 10-2 without a 1 in there? No. I don't think that's possible. Yeah.

I think that's impossible. Yeah. Let us know. Not every P-time is a poo-time, but every poo-time is a P-Tad. In my experiences, yes. We get back to the villa, though, and we have a little pool party, and we're back. Oh, we're so back. The Sprinter van was the first step.

or sorry, the dinner was the first step. And I started to feel good. When Meredith comes out smiling, I'm like, fuck, yes, here we go. And this is what's great about Meredith. When she does decide to move on, it's like it never happened. She comes out. They're making jokes. She's laughing.

She does a doggy paddle race with Whitney of all people. And Brittany, I believe, was in there too, like the two most unlikely duo. So things are starting to turn. We're starting to feel the vibes again. They're starting to have fun. And we get this, like, great. just kind of housewives moment wherever they're just sitting there talking some shit

they're talking about like oh is anyone kissed a girl Broadman's like where's Whitney at they smooch we tell stories about the crazy high school parties of course Meredith's about breaking a dish of all things which is great the whole thing was awesome I loved even Brittany chiming it of course Britney has kissed 367 dudes and has them all on a spreadsheet of course she does least surprising thing ever

so serious when Lisa asked what did you do that on an Excel spreadsheet? Yeah I do I have to update the spreadsheet. I have to make sure I have that in there. I believe her. I truly believe that she has that spreadsheet just to keep track. You can add another column in there and like how many times did I abandon my kids during all of these 367 times probably would also add up. But at the same time, no one's asking questions.

Everybody's just back to, especially with Brittany, quirky Brittany, we're not really going to address this. We're going to make a couple of jokes and then move on. We don't want her to talk too much. But everybody's in a good mood. Everybody's got good vibes. And that's what you want on vacation. them exactly but let's get ready for dinner and mary taps out now i know this seemed innocuous this is either robert junior meredith or a combination of the two i think that she's going

through it right now i think this is like i you know i know she gets tired i know she needs a night that's fine i think that's that should be more normalized on vacation to allow people just like tap out of things but i think this is deeper i think she's going through a lot of shit yeah i I mean, I don't necessarily think that you're reading too far and do it. It very well could be those things. My brain immediately goes to the yacht and how excited she was that Angie was six because she could just lay in bed with her. Oh, you think she.

Like, I do think that she was, she was probably hoping that someone else was going to end up staying back so she could just lay in bed and eat. Like, hey, bring me some food back. I'll just hang out here. I don't really want to do that. I think it could just be surface level. It could honestly just be what she's saying. I hope so. Yeah, I'm a little tired.

That was a pretty fucking long day. We had to ride donkeys. The donkey shit all over the place. There's diarrhea in the mess. middle of the street. I've had my feel. I'm out. And this is okay. For somebody like Mary, it's completely fine. Obviously, for Angie, it's completely fine. I think it's very funny that you gave Lisa so much shit the night before. And you don't even bat an eye at Mary, but you guys are closer friends. So it's okay. Yeah, that bias shows up finally. But let's get to the Sprinter

fan once again. And we learn that Brittany has trademarked high body count, which is awesome. It's such a Britney move. It's so dumb. It is everything everyone else is saying. But it's also not that fucking serious. Unless you were going to trademark this, Angie. I think she was. I think she was.

Did you not see her face when they asked? She didn't say a word. She just kind of smirked and then put her head down. So I don't know. That could have easily just been a, you know what? I could make a really rude comment right now, but I'm not going to. So I'm just going to bite my tongue and just move on. I took it as, yeah, I was actually considering doing that, depending on how that goes.

Every housewife is doing that. Go back to Dorinda. Every word that came out of Dorinda's mouth in like seasons eight through 12 of Roney, she trademarked. She trademarked everything. And if you got to it first, she'd be pissed off and she'd probably smash a wine bottle and go after you. Which apparently she did to Donna Kelsey. I don't know if you saw that report, but I am pumped for traitors.

Excuse me? Oh, yeah. Apparently Donna Kelsey made a comment about Derinda's drinking and slurring her words. and Derrida did not take Kylie to that. You know what a sentence is that. That's a great sentence, but I am team mom at Kelsey for life. Yeah, but at its core, it is so embarrassing to trademark that. Now, Brittany may never actually be a full-time housewife, so do I really care?

No, should she chase that bag? Sure, is there going to be a bag? No, stop chasing things because you leave your kids behind. How could I be? be high body count with a couple of kids running around. No, I'm out. Yeah. Get out of here. I know that we've been working, going to therapy, but I need to trademark some more things. What it did not call for is an onslaught of physical insults. I didn't like this. Angie, tough look, and she's not usually the one that we've seen her do it. And we know that she gets to that point.

She did it with Lisa. She starts going on on Brittany. And she's like, ah, you know, your hair is just too long for your age. and it's the same length as yours same length as leases that doesn't make any sense and then she goes well just makes it look cheap makes me want to cut mine i'm like that's probably one of the meanest things anyone's ever said to brittany but brittany wants to be part of this group so badly that she will grin and bear anything that they have to say yeah that is a that is a dev point i always give her credit she brought that up i agree with her 100%. i don't know how much these ladies could do to get her to leave or to get her to find The only thing that worked, worked, quote unquote, is the airplane.

We don't know what happened. It was the airplane and it was the Spritter van last year, wherever they were. I think they were in Mexico. But that was her fault. And then she cried to get attention. So you also have to somehow distinguish between when Britney's crying for attention and when she's actually upset. I think that those are the best two options right there.

This was more of the same. I think that the way her brain works, if I have to guess, she thinks that they're all friends. and this is just normal friends. Like they're just making fun of me. Yeah, just a couple of jabs out there. It's okay. And then she'll pull something out,

but she'll bring a gun to a knife fight and she'll say something outlandish and then get herself in more trouble. Now, the reason why I think that Angie was going to trade market and why she's upset about it is because of how fucking crazy she went. How much she just kept leaning into it and doing all of these things. It's insane. Like, she could have just let that go.

It's Brittany. You don't have to say anything else. It's embarrassing that she did that. Just lean on that. You don't have to then attack her and then add insult to injury. It doesn't make any sense unless you were going to trademark it. Now you're pissed off. I think you're right.

I love that idea because it didn't make sense to me. After it's squashed in the van, then we get to dinner. Granted, I mean, it comes up. But this is when you know a cast is like really locked in. Dinner's like this because they come in. It's Meredith and Bronman. Like, hey, you've got a new business venture, everybody. I remember Brittany with the ting, ting, ting,

when she was doing the cheers, take your pick of which one. She had 30 cheers in the first three episodes last year. But it's like a secret flasker called Ting, Ting, Ting, Ting. You don't know what's there. Ha, ha, ha. Riffing on Brittany, trademarking that. That's funny. That's fine.

It's light. It's easy. Brittany doesn't take too much of it. But then we get deep. It is really embarrassing, though, Brittany. And then everybody jumps in. I was like, whoa, what are we doing here? Because Lisa jumps in.

Because Bromlin and Meredith did not jump in. They just kept laughing, which is what you do. in a group setting like this. I thought it was incredibly funny. I laughed out loud when we're having a good time and making jokes because that was a really good joke. Angie doesn't laugh and she just goes right back for the jugular. Like, oh, wow, she's pissed.

Yeah. Why? Like, this is embarrassing for her now. It was just embarrassing for Brittany. It's now embarrassing for you that you're doing all of this. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But like you said, other people jump in. Whitney's now jumping in.

Heather's now jumping in. They're making fun of her bronzer now. Like, what is going on? No. It's just too much. We don't need to pick on people this much, but again, I think she's so eager to be part of the crew that she just kind of grins and bear it, which I will give her credit for. Like she doesn't get rattled by this whole thing.

She could have. She doesn't. She claps back. She's like, I just think you're threatened by me. It's like, eh. It's very funny because it shows you the delusion that she lives in. Or you're jealous of my hair. Yeah.

Now, but I like that you're a good sport. she's a good sport with the whole thing at some point somebody recognizes like all right guys this this seems a little too much Whitney says let's not do this to which Meredith and Bronman get upset at it's like we're not doing it's like all right she's addressing the group like everyone relax I didn't see the issue with that but yeah I didn't either but the best thing in the world that could have happened happened Brittany are you okay yep everyone's good yep look around we're in Greece. Fuck yeah. Have a good night. Bang. We are so... Put a lid on it. Like, we're good. We just tied a bow on so many issues in one episode

that we're spilling over from episode to episode for far too long. And we weren't really complaining. We were just pointing to the signs that this could go on for way too long. I imagine we're getting close to the end of the season. If I had to guess, there's probably two episodes left until the reunion. What? No. We're that far in? We are. We are. really that far. And now I know watch what happens live in the peacock kind of fucks with that. I think what we're going to get is one more episode in Santorini, one more episode back home at Salt Lake, and then we're done. Opa's an outburst. Episode 15. I think we got 16, 17, 18. I bet we have three more. I'm going to say two. And it's going to feel like five because we're

going to have a three-week hiatus. And we're going to forget what happened. Oh, no, no. Okay. Next one airs December 30th. So we're just taking, we're just taking off uh christmas week so that's not bad so that's not terrible but okay yeah oh man that's so sad what a season that's when you know it's like 15 already damn but we always say when we get to that is yeah you can go two ways you can go the beverly hill season that was far too long and felt way longer than it actually was or you can have something like this where you're just enjoying every trip yeah i love it i love it this was such a great episode and like i said that second half just made the first half even better like I was a little worried and then I mean masterclass bravo everybody on the

cast top to bottom even Whitney everybody won in this episode and you know who won the most we did at home we did yeah let's get to some questions uh first one up here I'm going to address right away from 15 AMG because we forgot to mention it uh and maybe you didn't even catch it did you hear Heather say quote unquote the rest of us have morals during the Whitney bromwin conversation about kissing girls. No. She did. Yeah, she did say it.

Now, there is a chance, there is a slight chance that she was still addressing Brittany with her 367 people. That could have been a possibility. Was she being a silly belly? Enough people online were saying that it was during Whitney and Bromond's conversation. So that's not a great look. I really hope that's not in reference to that. I hope it's not.

And we don't know for sure. And it might be something big enough that she'll, have to address it but if it is she needs to address it that's fucked shut up Heather like what who cares yeah we're doing that still in 2025 by the way just side note I love that the watch what happens live video went viral about them sticking it in there yeah I'm glad we're not alone uh from car millionaire is Brittany fooling us all and she's actually incredibly smart and just playing a character no no no yeah it's it's not one of those it's not the um Uh, what you would call it?

Wow. I'm just completely blanking. I don't know what you're going for, but she is very much of what you see is what you get person. Yeah. Oh, it's not the Kathy Hilton situation. No, no, no, no, not even remotely. That's insulting to Kathy Hilton on this. And I, obviously, obviously and honestly just got in.

Oh, boy. From Brie Polo, the donkey camera angle was absolutely diabolical. It was. And I loved it because I could see the, uh, the GoPro set up. before they even got on there and I was so excited for those camera angles The donkeys

Yeah From I'm just being Frank How was the chef's technique Couldn't fucking tell you I was masturbating So He was so hot I'm all frazzled now

I didn't see him really cook That is Yeah that's where hot and bother replies Look Anybody that looks like that That lives in Greece Or Italy or Spain You name it

You know they're throwing down that guy is probably a phenomenal shit he could probably make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and it would be the best one you ever had well if he uses a little bit of that greek honey that we saw angie used yeah look at that honey look at that that's i wish you talked that way look at that shit you know how you like that in the states hell no i'll answer that one at the end because we yeah we'll fill you guys in a little bit we've been um yeah uh i guess we'll do one more, but why is it okay for bad weather, which is Whitney and Heather, I like that a lot. Oh, I like that.

Whitney and Heather, yeah, to stand up for each other and not Mary and Lisa. It's not, in my opinion. Yeah, it's a stupid bias that has been used over and over again. And I don't know why. I think it's because, it's because Meredith and Lisa are more formidable. People aren't afraid of Whitney and Heather, but Lisa and Meredith. Last one here from Amy is an isom. Amy is an ism. Yeah, I think I got that. Are you guys thinking about a tour of some kind in 2026? Come to NYC.

Yes, we are. We are planning on doing multiple cities. Closer to the spring is probably when we'll start doing that stuff. We got a lot going on right now. But we are planning. We're going to hit some new cities. A couple of cities that we've already been to. We will not disclose them yet.

But we are going to get on that soon. So, yeah, you can expect to see us next year out and about. So make sure you get your tickets and come hang out with us. But stay tuned. Oh, yeah. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope.

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