Bros & Shows - Girth Check With The Bros (Love Island Full Recap Episodes 14 & 15)

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

What's up bros?? We're back at the Villa with a quick check in after sending home Sol & Gabe and the subsequent fall out. While we're really just gearing up for Casa departure, it seems there might be a little movement in some of these seemingly closed off couples. We'd like to see a little more fracture before Casa but we'll take what we can get! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, America got to vote again and proof yet again that we shouldn't be allowed to do that. This is less about us and more about the Islanders. This is one of the only times that I think that I'm going to agree that America probably shouldn't have had to vote. So it's not really their fault. But then it comes down to the Islanders. And I'm okay with the choices that they made. They were kind of fun and threw the house into a frenzy, at least for a little bit. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a...

man it's eight o'clock and so that'll make it a I don't need the spotlight I shine just fine Hi, I'm karma and yes I am a bitch Brov Bros Good evening everybody welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros

for everybody for whoever wants to listen I am your co-host Steel Russell joined as always by the one and only Villa Goots. What's up dude? I got absolutely roasted by the sun this weekend. But in a good way. Yeah.

Yeah. The first sunburn is officially out and about. It is tough to walk around. It is very tough to shower. But I'll tell you what it's not tough to do. And that's just lay on your couch and watch Love Island. Love Island's a great lounging show because it goes by pretty quick. I know the episodes are long, but they're surprisingly short seeming most of the time.

But it is a great lounge and not move show. like binge like five episodes in a row, which we have to do sometimes because if you fall behind even two days, you're playing catch up for 10 days. That's pretty much what I did last night after getting back from the beach, just watched like three episodes,

including AfterSun. And yeah, it does fly by. And it's also even as a podcaster, I could say it's a good show to hang out and just kind of watch in the background. And then you can be like, wait,

what the fuck did he just say? And you can go back and rewatch that. So it's almost like even for us, which is perfect for us, because we have to watch so intently. But even for us, we get to just kind of like tune in and tune out a little bit here and there. Exactly.

Now, we had some shenanigans pop off in episode 14. This is episode 14 and 15. So episode 15, we had some shenan. No, 14. Yes. 14 was the boat. Now, I agree with you as far as we did end up getting a shakeup out of this, which I very much needed.

my first thing I want to discuss, because I'm having, I'm having a hard time here. How did we not have a bombshell? How was there not one bombshell, dude? Like, what are we doing? I don't really understand the timing of any of this in the way that it worked out because where we left off after our last recap,

we had just recoupled. The recoupling happened after the mailbox challenge, which resulted in Sol and Caleb being together. And then right away, they asked America who their favorite couples are. Yeah, that's bullshit. Okay. I would actually be happier if they just sent Sol and Caleb home right then and there

and then have two bombshells, one of each, you know, like a girl and a guy walk in. And then you can go into, you don't have to do a vote after that. You just have them come in, mix things up, have them do whatever. And then you could start CASA. You don't have to start CASA on Sunday. Started on Monday or Tuesday. Like, it's not that big of a deal. I feel like they kind of realized what was going on.

And when you watch After Sun, Gabe even says it like, what's the biggest thing about exploring or not exploring? And it's just that everybody's afraid to leave. Like if you end up exploring and get caught with your ass out, you're going to go home. So that's pretty much what everybody's doing. That's what we keep watching. So I feel like they're just kind of scrambling. And we can honestly say this. This is copy and paste.

At a certain point, each season of Love Island, there's going to be a time where everybody seems to be getting to that point where it's like, we're not closed off. We're going to keep saying that we're exploring like Zach and Kate. in this episode, which might work out. But Zach and Kada were like, yeah, you know, we keep saying to each other. We're not closed off. I'm like, I haven't seen either of you even look at a different person. So don't keep telling me that you're exploring. You're not exploring.

So when Gabe says that on after a sudden, he's like, yeah, you can go explore and you want to act like you're exploring. But in reality, once you do that, if it doesn't work out for you, you're vulnerable and you're going home. And he put it into the best words possible. I feel like because that's what we're watching. Like with Casey and Anaya, every time that we do a recap, there's no movement with Casey and Anaya. It's really just us talking about the fact that Casey keeps bringing up the fact that

they're not closed off and he wants to explore. And then he goes and explore soul and it's like, well, that was kind of fruitless. You're not going to be able to tell me that there's a certain point where Casey was actually pursuing soul. I think he just wanted to do that to just prove to Anaya, like, hey, I am serious about this exploring thing. I think in the moment, I agree. I think when you watch everything play out the way it did. That to me said that he had the thought. He was thinking about exploring with soul, had the conversation was like,

eh, maybe it's not worth it. Don't want to rock the boat and go home, as we now know thanks to Gabe. And then I think when everything goes down and he sees Soul leave and he kind of looks at the whole situation, and Gabe, I think Gabe's speech kind of hit him in the head.

I think he was like, ah, fuck, that is what we're here for. I'm not doing that. He just got whacked for doing that. But in all actuality, Gabe was playing the game the best way. He was doing what you're supposed to do there.

Justice for Gabe. I'm back on Gabe's team, by the way. But I think when he heard Gabe speak in that moment, he was like, shit. I think you pair that with soul feeling like nobody was giving her the time of day. I think you put that sandwich together in case he's like, I really fucked up. I should have explored. I should have listened that little voice in the back of my head, but I didn't. And now she's gone.

And now there's nobody to explore. that's the problem. That's why we needed bombshells. You look across the villa, who's going to talk to who? We do get a random shakeup. And I hope that that shakeup continues to go between Caleb and Keda. That's kind of fun. I'm down for that.

But the fact that it took this long and two people going home that did not deserve to go home to finally shake things up is a little frustrating. And the fact that there's not at least two more bombshells in there. there. It could be two dudes. It could be two chicks. It could be a boy and a girl. I don't care. But like, we needed something in there before now, before CASA. Unless, unless this is all a big ruse and they're like, yeah, Sol got whacked after three days in the villa. She's in CASA. And I don't think that's happening. No, no, I doubt that's going to happen because there were already videos on Instagram live of Sol and Gabe at the airport in Fiji. And she was just talking mad shit. Now, I think she went a little too

far and you know if you haven't seen that it is floating around all over twitter threads instagram you can find it somewhere she's pretty much saying like yeah you haven't seen it yet yeah so essentially what she's saying i'll just summarize it is that she never felt like she was welcome to the group she always felt like the girls were looking at her differently which you know Melanie sure but i don't think it really had anything to do with soul but i also think that soul wasn't really trying to be friends with anybody she was just focusing all of her time and effort on it's sincere which then came back to bite her in the ass of course but in the fallout after the mailbox challenge when we end up with soul and uh kela being the the lonely

island people we end up getting something that we say all the time and that's don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining i can't believe that they said that i didn't even watch the episode this was in thursday nights episode i had like gone down the shore i was going to the beach i was going off the u s a game i came back i was looking at our instagram we got dms from multiple people being like you guys are going to love and it gave us like the exact minute and seconds I had no idea what it was going to be. So thank you to whoever DM'd us and didn't spill the beans just said you guys are going to love at this minute and second mark.

Once it popped off, I'm like, holy shit, I can't believe that just happened. She got the saying wrong. It's actually pissed on my back and tell me that it's not raining. I don't spit my mouth at all that's raining. Yeah, certain shows we have to cover that. That applies a little bit better. But I'm so happy we got that. And I guess we can just discuss like where soul's coming from.

I understand feeling spur. I mean, sincere definitely is not a good guy and he's not playing it right. But I think she does realize, and she says it a couple times, she put all of her eggs, which is, that's the phrase that everybody's using now. I put all my eggs in one basket. Like, I don't know why everybody's using that. It's the easiest one person said it and then everyone says what we do. She takes off like a plague.

But yeah, so that's kind of where she was. I mean, she knows that's where she was and she just feels pissed off. So by the time that we get to the end of episode 15 and they're sending people home or 14 and they're sending everybody home. It's like, okay, yeah, you kind of know this is coming at this point. I mean, it's left up to the guys. What are they supposed to do? They're not going to save you.

I'll meet you somewhere in the middle because I agree. I mean, objectively, she did put all of her eggs into sincere basket, which was probably a mistake in hindsight. Granted, he was pouring it on really thick and led you on like a motherfucker, but it's Love Island, you're a bombshell, probably should have diversified your account, so to speak, your portfolio a little bit. But what I will say, I don't think she was welcomed at all.

And I do think that coming into that situation, feeling like the dudes won't talk to you, the ladies are defensive because they don't want you to take their dude. I don't think they really made that much of an effort. I'm not saying that she couldn't have gone out of her way a bit more to try to maybe have some friendships and conversations. It didn't seem like the most warm and welcoming crew. And I think that if you walk into that situation and you kind of get cold shouldered, you're probably going to shut down a little bit. And sincere, this probably played to his advantage, honestly,

because she's like, oh, at least he'll talk to me. And then she went all in on that because she didn't have anybody else to talk to. So, yeah, I do think she got hosed. I agree she should have gone after somebody else, at least a little bit just to have an option potentially. But I think she got burned. I think that that was pretty brutal way to go out. I can agree with you there.

It's definitely more uncincere than it is on soul. but again, and maybe this goes to Gabe's point in after sudden, what is soul supposed to do? I mean, nobody's willing to budge. I mean, you can go over and continuously pull people. But when this happens and this happens every year, when you do this and you're a girl, especially a girl bombshell walking in there, the girls are kind of clicked up. Now, we saw weirdly enough Kenzie has now started to float over to the bombshells. I wonder what's going on there because he doesn't know what's going on.

Yeah, Melanie and I and Kada just have nothing to do with Kenzie anymore. and it's kind of funny to watch. So I wonder if something's going to unfold. But you see that. The rest of it's like, okay, if you do something wrong, they're going to be pissed at you.

If you pull somebody's man, even though you're a bombshell, that's literally your job. People are going to be pissed to you. You're going to alienate yourself. But she didn't really do that since you showed interest in her. And then she just kind of hung out with him. And she's the one who gets upset or she's the one that everybody's upset at.

So it doesn't really make a ton of sense. But I think it does go further to say what Gabe said. And it's like, what am I supposed to do? I can't talk to anybody. I don't think she showed much interesting. when he pulled her. She could have really laid it on thick, pissed off sincere, got him upset, maybe gave

Casey some things to think about. Like, that's the only real thing that I feel like she may be, uh, or there's a chance that she could have done that. But even that, I see it's kind of going sideways. Yeah, exactly. It was kind of a lose, lose situation. But the other thing I want to discuss and you guys know, we kind of jump around when we do these recaps, the kensy of it all.

Because, well, actually, first of all, who would you have voted out? Like, if you could have picked out of those. three what what i thought i thought you were going to talk about brice and uh zach comparing dicks we're getting there i mean what the fuck yeah that's that's that's yeah that's that's the main course they were flirting they were flurring like but not in that moment obviously but later on when they're recapping it that was full-blown flirting which is fine it was full blown flirting it was full-blown flirting very interesting wrinkling this whole thing what if are you allowed to couple up with a dude could we throw like a total curve that's what i'm talking about that

That's what I feel like we need to do. And maybe that's the way to... Yeah, like soft launch having some queer people in the house by just allowing people to be promiscuous. Let them just couple up with whoever they want to couple up with. I feel like it would send the house into a frenzy. And then it would open a completely different door where it's like, I don't know what the hell is going to happen here.

So that would be a lot of fun for me. But with Zach and Bryce, it is very funny because even later, I think it was Thursday's episode when they're laying in bed and Trinity comes in. It's like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, get the fuck out of my bed. She pulls the covers off of them. They both act like they have a voter. So I'm like, there's a lot going on here. There is really a lot going on.

Yeah. And again, no issues whatsoever. I just think that we should add a layer to the show where is it, I wonder if it's allowed. They haven't like explicitly said yes or no. Are you Googling it? No. Now I am, but I was about to, yeah. I was about to do something else, but now I'm doing that.

Can you pop up the same sex on Love Island? I don't believe so. There's no like substantiated. did anything, but let me see. Probably not Love Island USA. Oh, yes, you can. Though it's extremely rare. Yeah.

Okay. Well, all right. So now I need, now I need Caleb and Kada to work out because then there's a clear path there. Someone has to sweep in and, or swoop in and get Trinity. And then we have a chance.

Because Kada might be straying away a little bit. Yeah. I think, I guess we can talk about Zach and Kada. I was so tired of both of them every time that they're talking to anybody, not even like in an official format, but just talking to anybody else. They're like, yeah, I mean, look, I tell her all the time. We're still exploring.

And then we see a scene of Zach and Kada sitting down and Zach's just soft launching, going and exploring, but never doing anything. And we talked about it last week when we were doing the recap. I do think that if somebody walks through that door, that's a bombshell, Zach will just jump ship and he'll act like he hasn't seen Kada in weeks and be like, I don't even know who the fuck you are anymore. I still think that's going to happen. Maybe it happens at Casa. Who knows? But I was getting sick and tired of the two of them completely reiterating that they're exploring or going to a confessional with Anaya where she's like, look, I understand it. I'm starting

to figure out what's going on here. We're definitely allowed to explore. And then she just gives like Casey a weird sideways look when he's talking to anybody. You guys got to stop fucking lying to me. Like I'm getting annoyed by you guys just lying to my face. But when that happens, and I like that this happens too, because sincere and Caleb are talking. And obviously Caleb is very vulnerable. He's not really single, but he's very vulnerable because him and Seoul have nothing. I mean, they talked after that vote where they ended up going back to each other. They had nothing in common.

I mean, they were just talking about each other's partners. Like, where are you at with Kenzie? Where are you at with sincere? She was just bitching about sincere constantly. Like, I can't believe that he did this to me. What do you think about Kenzie? Well, I'm pretty heartbroken about the whole thing. You guys are a couple.

Maybe, you know, you can do that for a couple minutes. But you should be talking a little bit. it and trying to figure out like what's going on and maybe oh i don't know a way to stay on the islands like at least fucking lie at least fake it and act like you guys are really happy in a couple it's like wow weird unforeseen circumstances pushed us into a couple we didn't know that we had so much in common and then just lay it on thick with everybody else then we're looking like wow good that's awesome and then just wait for cossin and then just jump ship like i i don't understand what goes through a lot of these people's minds when you're in this show format and like game said if

you're doing anything out of the ordinary, you're vulnerable. That's not out of the ordinary. That's actually cool. And then just play it up and act like you guys are, this is a weird love story. I mean, that's what Casey and I have been riding on since day one. I, when it comes to Zach and Kada, I'm in the same camp as you. Like, it gets tired to hear that, yeah, I'm so like, Kada goes even further because Zach pisses her off when he brings up that conversation.

So then she goes to talk to somebody else. She's like, I'm so open. I'm the openness. I'll talk to anybody. And you're right. They don't talk to anybody. What I think is going on, truly, I think Zach is trying to get her to explore first. So he keeps saying that because when she does explore, he's going to act like a man scorned and be like, I can't believe it.

She did that. I guess I have to go explore now. Then he's going to go do it. And he's going to be like, well, you did it first. So I was just getting back at you. That's the vibe I get from him. It's like when you want to break up with some. but you don't want to be the one to do it.

So you just kind of distance yourself. Yeah. Yeah. I could totally see that. Absolutely see that. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Now,

oh, go ahead. I was going to say, who would you have voted off? In the three dudes, we got the three chicks. What was it? It was.

It was Corbyn, Caleb, and Gabe. And then it was Soul, Kenzie, and Jen. Correct. The three and three. So let's focus on the dudes for a second.

This was kind of wild. I mean, they pretty much just called them a slut. Like he got together. Look, I do think it was more melody they called him a slut because when we're going through the thought process, like we get to never heard that.

What? When they were going through the thought process, I never heard. No, they did. Yeah, no, exactly.

Yeah. They were just going through like, well, you know, I don't even know where this is coming from, but they said, and we kind of saw that a little bit, but I don't know how the hell they saw it.

Like, yeah, if a bombshell walks through, like, Gabe's going to jump ship. It's like, wait, you guys are forgetting that you voted off Baya. Like, Baya ended up going home because no one saved her or whatever ended up happening. But, like, he got recoupled into Jen. He didn't do anything. We did that to him. So you can't hold that against him. He didn't jump ship on Bayer.

Like, yes, I do agree that he did distance himself from Bayer, but maybe he had a stronger connection with Jen. Like, what are we supposed to do here? And then they start talking about Kenzie a little bit. And they're like, ah, you could say the same thing about Kenzie. Maybe she'll just jump ship. I'm like, wait, you guys are all over the fucking map. And then when Melanie finally stands up and says that they're sending Gabe home, she's like, this guy is not playing the game the right way.

He doesn't care. He's lustful. He's just lusting after everybody. If another blonde walks through that door, he's going to jump her bones. Like, holy shit, where do any of this come from? But again, we didn't see any of that. And then Melanie just blurts it out. I'm like, wait a minute.

Is this just like a personal vendetta that you have against him? I don't understand what's going on. But as Gabe even says in his speech afterwards, he's like, look, what do you want me to do. This is, I'm playing the game how everybody else is talking about playing the game, but not actually doing it. And I'm trying to figure things out. I mean, he's been hooking up with Jen for the last couple of weeks or last couple of nights, I guess you could say. So it's been fine, but like he hasn't been going after anybody else. It's not like he's trying to wiggle his way in between like all of your other relationships. So I don't really understand that.

No, I didn't either. And I think that when you compare how he's moving to Kenzie, I do think they're the same thing. I think how that got framed was incorrect. They keep trying to throw lust out there and then Kenzie gets stuck on lustful. She'd like, I didn't do that. It's like you literally did the same shit. You were going back and forth. You were exploring. Okay?

He was going back and forth, except he didn't go back and forth. So you could say that Kenzie was more quote unquote lustful. I don't think she was. I'm just using that terminology because that's how Gabe got labeled. As you said, he got or Baya got kicked off the show, right? So then he gets partnered with Jen and then they pick each other. in that challenge. So,

no, the logic was incredibly flawed. It made no sense to, to get rid of this guy for doing what the show is. Like, he literally played the game. And I think that we, if we had a show full of games,

there'd be a lot more shit going on in the villa right now. I wouldn't be clamoring for more bombshells to walk in, because people would be doing it right. But as he said, an after son, everyone's, if you do anything out of the ordinary, you're gone.

And like, this show cannot sent, around people being afraid to leave Love Island. It's supposed to be about finding your connection. We need to explore. And to explore, we need more bombshells. And, like, and KC. said it great. That was so funny when he kind of broke the fourth wall.

And he's, like, lustful. It's like, we are on a show where we're, like, sticking our tongues down each other's throats. We're smacking asses. Like, yeah, we're all lustful in this motherfucker. I was like, thank you. Thank you. Because that makes no sense to get rid of Gabe.

And, like, I get what they're saying to a certain extent. Like, yes. he was a little promiscuous when he came in, he came in hot and heavy, but you have to go on recency bias. What has he done lately? He was with Baya. He explored Jen.

He did kiss soul as well. That's it. That's it. And then he hunkered down with Jen and even went as far with her to say, I'm not going to explore anybody else. He was happy with Jen. And then Melanie gets up and eviscerates him, makes him sound like a total scumbag.

Well, also says, I love you so much. I love you. like genuine that I love you just like really gross and like you're not going to keep it in your pants. So like you need to get the fuck out of here. But I love you so much. And that's the other thing that keeps popping up and that's what pops up pretty much every year is the differentiation between kissing and challenges and going too far in challenges. And if you go a little too far, everybody has to hear about it.

But you're kissing and challenges and doing whatever. But that never gets held against you. It's when you're doing things out of challenges. It's like you guys, no one's doing anything outside of the challenge. You guys just sit around all day with your friends. Corbin and Kenzie did. Yeah, Corbin and Kenzie did. They did like the secret kiss in the bedroom.

They were a couple before that, so it's still. Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. And they were forced apart. It's not like they picked somebody else and then went back to each other, which also would have been fine in the grand scheme of things. So I don't really understand any of that. From the parents behind law and order comes a mystery the whole family can enjoy. Patrick Picklebottom everyday mysteries.

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The dude was trying to figure out who the girls were picking so they could pick the counterpart. That's all. Yes. That's exactly what they were trying to do. So when they're going through everything, I knew they were going to end up on Seoul and the rest of it's just like whatever. But Casey takes a stand a little bit anyway. He's like, I don't really get it because she. was with Sincere and then you went back to Melanie,

but she didn't really have a chance to do anything else. Like keep her in the house. Like maybe I'll explore and figure things out. Jen, she's with Gabe. So like they're not going to send Gabe home. We shouldn't send Jen home because they have a real connection. They end up sending Gabe home and Jen gets caught out there on our own. So landing on Seoul kind of made sense for the rest of them.

But when they're deliberating, I'm just getting annoyed because the way, obviously Zach and Bryce are going to be teamed up. As soon as Zach says something, Bryce agrees. sincere obviously just wants soul out of the house just to get that like potential disaster out of there because he doesn't know what's going to happen he probably doesn't trust himself like maybe i will go back to soul if no one he's here go yeah so that's that's why he wanted to go after her but kisi kisi was the only one who was making any sense he was the only one who is actually going through all three and being like well if we keep this person what happens if we keep that person what happens

if we keep soul look i might explore i mean i haven't really had a chance to have any conversations with her, but now the sincere Melanie thing is kind of finalized itself, so Sol's out there on an island. Maybe I'll go talk to her and figure it out. No one listens to Casey, they end up voting Soul out, but they are just completely dumbfounded that the girls ended up sending Gabe Home, which I

liked. I'm fine with that. I don't agree with their reasoning for sending Gabe Home, but we did need some wrench thrown into the mix. Agreed. Agreed. I'm okay with drastic moves. I'm okay with shocking departures. Like, that's fine with me. but the logic pissed me off on both sides and why the fuck is sincere doing it why is he standing up

to put the last nail in soul's coffin and also he's sitting he has an opinion about everything every single thing he's got a little quip to say i'm so out on melony and sincere i was so pissed that they didn't get voted off like that would have made my life so much better i'm sick of the the toxic bullshit like they find their way back he's going to going to go to Casa and jump off that bandwagon immediately. The dude's a dirtbag. I don't want, oh, God, it gave me Aja to see them come back together. And they're like, oh, it's only you.

It's only going to, there's always you. It's not going to be anybody else. You're lying. You're fucking lying. You're going to go to Casa and cause a ruckus. I'm just waiting. And again, like we kind of look across the room out. And you got the guys versus the girls.

They're getting all pissy because they're pissed off about. about Gabe, to their credit, the ladies. It's like, no matter who they voted, it was going to suck. You just assumed it was going to be Caleb. But at the same time, their logic for keeping Caleb does make sense. Look at that instead of getting focused on the Gabe part. Somebody was going to get fucked over. Unfortunately, it was Gabe.

It is what it is. They saved Caleb because he didn't get a chance to really explore because you kind of shoehorned Kenzie at him. We all did. So there you go. I think that they got so up in arms about it. and they're sitting there having their little powwow back and forth, just firing each other up.

Meanwhile, the ladies are on the other side doing the same exact thing. They come together and it kind of, it is what it is. They kind of agree to like wash it. It's no big deal. I wanted that to turn into more. I was kind of hoping that that would cause some splits,

but I think it caused one big enough rift. And that was Kada and Zach. I think that Zach really pissed her off. And that opened the door of her to be like, you know what? I've been saying I'm going to explore. I say it. every episode, he just pissed me off.

I really am going to explore. And again, I will credit it to Gabe for his speech and to soul for her speech and saying, give people a chance. I think that a lot of people in there have been wanting to explore, have been scared to explore, hearing that those two got sent home before explore and they're like, oh, shit, I'm not playing the game right. I'm going to rethink how I do this. Zach pissed me off.

So I'm especially going to do this. I'm going to go talk to Caleb. Boom. Yeah. I think it should work out enough. Look, do I think that Kada and Caleb are going to do anything? No, not really. I do think that there's something to be said where they're an after son talking about it.

Like, well, you know, opposites do attract sometimes. But I think it'll be enough just that. And I'm sure we'll watch this tonight, just enough that Zach keeps saying, wow, they've been gone for so long. You don't think they're kissing, do you? So he is insecure enough to think that, even though he probably shouldn't be because Kate hasn't given him a reason not to be. but it will be interesting to see how he moves.

Will he be a dick after that? Because I think he will be. I think he'll be short with her. I think he'll make a couple of comments that are going to turn into something else and try to figure it out. And I think it's just going to end up resulting in pretty much what Gabe and Sol were saying. Like, hey, give other people a chance, try to figure these things out and maybe something else can come about it, which is something that I feel like we do need. I don't want to say desperately because I feel like when we say we desperately need things. It's like there's nothing enjoyable about this.

It's still enjoyable. well, there's still things here and there that are happening that are enough to kind of push us to that entertainment value. And obviously, CASA just completely eviscerates everything. It just throws things out the window. So that'll be fun regardless. But I need a little bit of a rift before we get into CASA, at least between these two. Because, yes, Bryce and Trinity are going to be America's favorite. Whenever their vote comes up, they're going to get the top vote.

Melanie and Sincere are not. They're going to be that couple that they think they're so strong and their story's cool. But enough people will watch Sincere in the way that he's moved. Melanie didn't see a lot of those things. So until movie night, she won't know, but we'll know. And we'll vote then towards the bottom. Kenzie and Corbyn will also be towards the bottom. But with Zach and Ceda, they're the quote-unquote strongest couple here because they

keep saying that they are. If there's a little bit of a rift before Casa between those two and something happens, it'll be a crescendo. Because we already know other people have been saying, I want to explore. I still think Bryce will come back and go back to Trinity. If he doesn't, Trinity will probably be waiting for Bryce and nothing will happen. So we'll have to see how that ends up. But I do think that we need some like dysfunction going into Casa for it to be fun.

And we do have a little bit like you said. So that is reason to to get excited a little bit. Now, as far as the Corbyn of it all, I feel like people are starting to come around on him. I've been a Corbyn fan. People are finally starting to see this guy for who he is. I've seen him since day one. OG fan right here. I don't know who are you talking about that are a lot of Corbyn fans.

Where? I've real different algorithms. Dev, she's coming around to it. So you guys are going to see Corbid. What do you mean? Come around. I'll listen to.

I'll listen to death. If they're going to talk to down, I'll listen. She is. She is. She's like he's so funny. I'm like, I know he's hilarious.

He's funny in like a completely unintentional way. I mean, that one scene where they're sitting out there after like, it's the morning after all of that shit goes down where they're like kind of at odds with everybody. And somebody says like, wow, the worst nightmare ever. He's like, nightmare.

Oh, I wish I could dream like you guys dreams. What do you mean? And they all catch on. This is where like the conspiracy theories of like, yeah, they all say he's a robot. Then they're calling him AI and saying that he just kind of powers down at night. It's all the shit that we're saying on Twitter. How do they know that? Like I know some things are self-client.

Because people are that original. Yeah, maybe it's that. I always think that it just kind of goes into the conspiracy theory that somebody has a phone or producers are letting them know like hey people are calling corbin a robot just slip something in there it'll be a nice little nod to everybody out there but i mean aside from that i don't really know i i think he's also going into casa let's do this going into casa who are your top two guys top two girls to watch for movement oh boy um kc as far as the dudes go because i feel like the only thing really holding him back from exploring is a naya like being like

and they're watching him. Yes, not very happy with him. So I think Casey's probably number one on my list. Number two, it's very close between these two, but my number two is Bryce. See, I don't think that he's going to do anything. I think he's going to have the appropriate amount of fun,

but I think he's going to be right back waiting for Trinity. I don't know what she's going to do on her end. I think it's going to be similar. I think for me anyway, it's between, I think it's between Zach and Corbyn. I mean, I do want to see Corbyn once again ask for a kiss. I feel like they're all

interchangeable, honestly. I really think that we're going to explore more. I agree. Yeah. That's where we want to be going into Casa, especially where we don't know. Like usually you can kind of check things off like, all right, this person's going to do this. This person's going to do this. They've been unhappy and they're a couple for like a couple of days now.

They're going to definitely explore with these. It's like I don't really know. At the end of the day, we might get something where they're coming back because we find out we get the first look or whatever the hell they call it that that release today for CASA. We see what happens. The boys go to CASA. The girls get to watch on a big TV

as the boys immediately meet the CASA girls. So that's going to be very interesting. Sort of like a little mini movie night for them, but I think it's going to be pretty fun. I just think if anybody's going to be exploring it really could be anyone. I'm trying to figure out who my top couple are.

But really none of them were surprised. me and none of them would not surprise me. I agree. And like they're, like I said, super interchangeable. And the only reason I think Bryce has a chance to be that guy is because him and Trinity are so happy. And I think that ever since they came back together, there really hasn't been a lot of question marks. He did obviously go try to explore Ceda. That was so out of left field that I feel like if he's in Casa and he's like, you know what? We are so good. Trinity are like, we are the top couple, despite Casey talking shit, we're number one.

But I wonder, like, let me test this connection kind of deal. And I don't know how it's going to go. I could easily see him testing it and being like, nope, Trinity's my girl and lock down and go and close off. I could see that. But I don't know. I think you could take Zach and stick him in that spot too. I think you could put Zach number one. I think he's been waiting for the chance to explore.

I think that he's waiting for Katie to start. Yeah, I think Zach is my number one in the sense. of getting a temperature on how this is going to go. Because if he immediately starts exploring and he's seriously exploring and he's talking about Kada in a bad light or saying that he's not, you know, I'm not closed off, not thinking that much about anything. I'm just trying to see where this goes. And then he actually just engages himself with somebody.

I think that is going to be, again, Bryce will fall in line because if he sees his best, he doing something, he'll be like, oh, I want to do that too. But KC, KC could be the wildcard, honestly, because I think the rest of them are going to explore the appropriate amount. sincere is going to be fearful for his life if he ever steps out of line. But I feel like he's still going to step out of line. And that's going to get back to Melanie, which will be hilarious because Melanie's going to be on the other side like,

no, I'm not going down this. I'm not doing this again. I don't want to do it to Sinseer. And then she finds out that he was fucking around over there. That's going to be World War III. And that's going to be fun. But I feel like Zach can be that catalyst where if he truly goes exploring everybody

else will fall in line. But for the girls, like I said, I don't expect Melanie to do a whole lot. I don't really expect Trinity to do a whole lot. Kate is going to be similar to Zach, that panelist. If she starts doing things, if Anaya starts doing things, then it's like, all right, cool. We're actually testing this. We're actually throwing things out there.

I just need a couple, like, just give me two couples to break up during Casa. And I think it'll reset the season in a good way. I agree. And I think that's really all you need. And that's not a whole lot to ask. No, not asking for the world. No. And I'm very curious to see this sincere and Melanie.

because that could be the caveat that we need to just blow everything up because Melanie is going to be disappointed. He's going to do something stupid. And those two falling apart, that's the thing. If you look at it, it's almost like, yes, I wanted more to happen up until this point. But we weirdly do have a powder keg in a lot of different ways. If certain things happen, everything falls apart. And I think that it's not just one couple that's going to react. I think that you're going to see multiple couples go.

down if just one couple lights that match. So that's, yeah, that's what I'm looking forward to. My wild card, just to keep throwing the people out of the Corbin train, I think he's going to go to Casa, fool around a little bit and be like, you know what, Kenzie's my girl, locked down. And he's going to surprise the world. That's what I think. And then Kenzie's going to go and do something with a bombshell.

and she's going to come back or sorry, Corbyn's going to come back. And he's like, I didn't do anything. I love you. And she's going to be like, I'm with somebody else. Oh, okay. So at least you're thinking a little bit of chaos there. You also make his voice sounds like dreamy.

And it's, it means to sound more computery. Like I think you're, yeah, yeah, I think you're trying to, yeah, you're throwing up the false flag. Now, I see what you're doing. I know, I know, I know what you're up to. Yeah, I know what you're doing over here. But yeah, so I mean, again, going into CASA is going to be the most interesting. But you know us.

We just try to get ahead at these things. Yep. So if you're listening to this, expecting us to talk about what happened on CASA. I don't really think a whole lot's going to happen in tonight's episode. I think it's just going to kick it off and we're going to see a little bit here and there. But it'll be at the end. So we'll be back later this week. And we'll give you all the CASA thoughts.

But I know we've got some questions. And unfortunately, I did use that picture of Zach and Bryce. So I imagine every single question. Every question is. teaming that. Yes, they are. Yeah,

my girlfriend actually asked right up front, why did you post a photo of you and Steele for L.I. questions. Yep. That's when we record in person, the first thing we do is check Dix

and then we sit down. It's our ritual. And we won't change for anybody. Yep. And Jay Antonio Garito, have you guys ever girth checked each other? Um, girth check.

As Roxy 63 do quote unquote bros actually do this or was that weird? Uh, oh boy. Come on guys. We're going to expose some secrets. No. Actually, no.

I doads don't do this. No. I haven't compared dicks with my friends. So no. We can take a poll. Put a poll out there. Yeah. Uh, Katie Nicole 217.

How do you guys think that after? her son's going. I'm obsessed with this new version. Sierra and Tappy are great. I agree. I think that because I was watching it right before we did this. I think the two of them, because they're friends and we know that they're friends, they kind of feed off of each other. It's sort of like when seal and I do a podcast. Like we know when each other are about to stop talking. So we jump right in. We know what the other one's thinking. And we fill in the cracks

of questions. So I think it works really well, not to say that Marr did a bad job last year or anything like that. I just think having these two all there, it's got a different level, a different degree of being fun with them, but also the giving the dumped islander, their phone back and seeing what the reaction is, is it's hidden every single time. It doesn't matter at all. If I care who it was,

if I don't care, it's still fun. Yeah, and I love to see Sierra on the come up. Like, I can't wait to see where she lands, but yeah, watching her outside of Summerhouse do her thing has been cool.

Yep. From all hell bails, does anyone else feel like there have been way too few bomb shows? Yes. I agree. We haven't had bombshells since Sol and Jen came in with Caleb. And that was in Love Island terms, that was months ago. Like that's, that's how it feels. Yep. Um, let's see. Yeah. It's Holly Halla. Oh, go ahead. Nope. You go. Yeah. Okay. It's Holly Holla. What are we going to see Bryce and Zach get together? Hopefully soon. I'll root for them. Yeah. We are rooting for them. Josie Thibbert says, I get voting off Gabe, but not sure of the reasoning the girls gave. Yeah, it was bad logic, you know, but again, like, you know, somebody had to go. And it's a bummer that he got whacked for playing the game the right way. And then that gets labeled as he's being lustful, even though he's only been, he's kissed three people,

two of whom he was in a couple with. And he was really into Jets. So, yeah, I think it's kind of bullshit. But as Shooter said, we kind of need. some chaos in here. We need a wrench thrown into it. And that might have been the wrench we needed because now you have, there's a disturbance between the boys and the girls in the villa.

They're not thrilled with each other. And to have that happen right before Casa might be perfect timing. Yeah, I agree. We'll end on this one because Steele's on TV tonight. Plug. Yeah. It's going to be on the food network tonight. So if you, well, you're listening to this Monday, but.

You can watch on HBO this morning, or you can watch on, I think, Food Network Go. I think that's what they call it. You can watch it. If you had HBO, you can watch it. I feel like you should know this, but yeah, probably should. I do know for a fact, it's on HBO tomorrow. It's on Food Network tonight. I don't know if it's on Food Network tomorrow.

Okay. You can pay for it on Prime, but I don't do that. It's not like Steel gets residuals. Don't waste your money on that. That would be silly. But go on it. It's it. I'm excited. I do know for a fact, I'm in this episode, bake sale challenge. And I don't know how much I'm going to be in it, but I will be in at least a little bit.

There's a, there's a real of me on Food Network's Instagram right now, which was kind of wild to see. Yeah. But yeah, ending it on this one from Liv Bender, could you guys watch Love Island, UK instead of USA? I promise it will always be better than the U.S. Live. We get these comments every year. I mean, look, if this was our. full-time job and we didn't have to do anything else. Sure. Yeah.

We could throw another love island in the mix. One of one of the love islands is more than enough for us. Yeah. It's not at that point yet, but it's getting to that point where it's like, it's a slog through. I love it. Like there's something weirdly awesome about it, but it's a lot. Like it is a lot. It's almost as much as the World Cup that I've been watching this.

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