Bros & Shows - Good Riddance Ralph (Carl+Lindsey Split, RHOA Finale Full Recap, RHOC Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

Whats up Bros?! We have a jam packed episode for you today as we wrap up this season (and possibly the last season with this cast) of RHOA! Before we get there, we have to discuss the news of Lindsey and Carl calling off the engagement. Rumor has it that Carl is the one that called things off. Then its off to Atlanta. Ralph and Drew have reached a breaking point as we finally get into the details of what's not working in their relationship. Ralph has moved out of the bedroom and when he finally returns to marriage counseling he claims he made the move to "better himself" and to "make Drew more comfortable". This entire episode was all evidence that Ralph is a manipulative, gaslighting and extraordinarily selfish and at times it is genuinely painful to watch. Kandi is throwing a wrap party for The Pass and we see Allison confront Courtney over the "bitch" issue. Which is really confusing because as seen in the video, Courtney says "this bitch" and points at Sanya. Regardless of who was called a bitch... who cares? It ends with Drew and Ralph filing for divorce as rumors begin to spread of an alleged relationship between Drew and former WNBA player Ty Young. The final check in of the season is a heartwrenching scene with Sanya as she explains the details of her pregnancy and the miscarriage. Which in sharing with us showed tremendous strength and courage. We end on a happy note as her and Ross are pregnant again! Then we're back in Orange County where Shannon is continuing a very bizarre warpath. She claims to not have any recollection of seemingly anything she's ever said. She plays the victim and acts as though the whole group is conspiring against her and John and talking behind their back, when she is the one offering up the information. Jenn still has her reservations about moving forward with Ryan in their relationship as she's concerned his past behavior may show up again. He replies with he wants to spend the rest of his life with her. And "those boobies". Because he's a child and a moron. The episode ends at the pumpkin patch when Gina calls out Shannon for bringing up Child Protective Services in regards to Gina's DUI. Shannon definitely crossed a line but then acts as though she would never say such a thing. Meanwhile Tamra proves once again she's a horrible friend when she tells the group she doesn't remember Shannon saying anything about CPS... Even though she talked to Jenn at the dinner table about Gina's DUI while Shannon was talking about CPS. Buckle up Bro's. Time Stamps: Rose and Thorn: (3:01) Bravo News of the Week: (8:12) RHOA: (18:23) RHOC: (1:00:58) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, St. joined as always by the one and only vacation magutes what's up dude one i'm happy that you got your name right today because that that weird it's ugly had the other day with kkasey that

was funny i haven't seen that in a couple of months um two of course while i'm on vacation bravo has to have one of the bigger news weeks of the year yeah it's been a it's been a really crazy week before we get into the news it's just been a crazy week in general around here and not because it's been like yeah fuck yeah braf bro's news we had a car drive into a gas we both live like, what is it, three minutes from each other, Max, walking. It takes me 45 seconds drive over here. I could throw a baseball to shoot or at his house probably, but a car or a truck crashed into a gas station and caught on fire across the street from where we live.

Yeah. Surprisingly, it was cleaned up pretty quickly because I drove past it a couple hours later, but you got to wonder what was going on, you know? I'm not sure. Clearly they weren't trying to pump gas because the car was like diagonal into the gas station. And the funniest shit is I need to get some work done on my truck, and there's a new service station at that gas station. So I was like, oh, I'm going to go check down out today.

Lo and behold, it is no longer there. But that could have been really good because what if your car was there and then that truck crashes into the gas station, blows everything up, you get insurance money for a car, you go get a new car. Damn it. I know, you missed out. I should have gone there because I think I'm going to have to get a new car, and I'm so upset.

I took it into Jiffy Loob, and they said that there's something wrong with the hose that connects the transmission to the engine, and it's going to cost like three grand to fix, and my truck's got like 170,000 miles on it. It's not worth it. But I fucking, you know how much I love my truck. Yeah, I would have went from like a travesty of a guy crashing into a gas station to a good Samaritan.

I know. He would have been helping me out. Yeah. Bummer. Bummer. There goes my insurance fraud scheme. Insurance fraud. Yeah.

Do it. No. Don't do it. Do not do that. Anyway. It. Um, stop. Stop recommending insurance fund.

Fine. Anyway, as you said, it was a pretty crazy week with the news. So we're going to dive right into it. Actually, we do Rosenthorn first. Sure. Let's do that. Let's do Rosenthorn first. You go first.

Okay. Wow. I'm going to change. I'm lax over here. Yeah, you seem. Vacation hanging out. I can't think of a more clever name for vacation magout. And that bums me out because usually I'm pretty good.

I'll think about it. I'll think about it. So let me talk about my Rosenthorn. At first, I want to do my Thorne. And we had a few that I could have picked, but this one is all encompassing for me. It's from a woman on TikTok, and it says, My opinion is other podcasters are hating because this was one of the best podcast episodes ever. Bethany Frankel in all caps with a big heart emoji.

Now, if you actually listen to that episode and put bias, side, put the fact that I hate Bethanya side, put the fact that it was a terrible episode aside because of the parameters surrounding it. If you just look at it from a podcaster interviewer standpoint, it was a horrible episode.

It was terrible. She didn't do any research beforehand. She did not, she led her, like leading the witness pretty much, like she led her interviewee the entire time to say the things that she wanted her to say. It was a horribly done interview from a logistical standpoint. She didn't cover

any of the bases needed to conduct a successful interview. Yeah, and also, not to be forgotten, Bethany does not know who you are, you loser. Right. Like, I can never hammer that. And look, I listen to a lot of podcasts. I like a lot of podcasters. I think they're really cool. Us included, we're cool people.

At least I like to think so. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to put anybody's names in all caps with a heart next to it and just stand them until the end of time. No. That's so strange because Bethany would never do that for you. So get off your weird high horse Unless it's a bot Which it could have been

You gotta be weary of bots It doesn't look like a bot account It looks like a real account Okay, all right, fair enough But still, that always irks me Because they don't care who you are I just thought it was dumb It's just a dumb comment

But anyway I had some options for the rows I'm gonna read one to finish it But this I had to read Someone just recently discovered us on TikTok And I love that Because they tend to go all the way back in our videos and, like, comment from there as though, whatever.

So this is user 686-906359-1750. If you have numbers in your news. You are really good at numbers. I can read the numbers. It's just your wacky names I can't read. But this user commented on the video. It was when I was talking about how we, like, reconnected. And then when I got home and moved back to Philly.

So I think she's under the impression that we reconnected because of Bravo. And I love this premise. That's not how it happened. but it's a really funny premise, but she commented, I love that Housewives brought you guys back together because this needed to happen, art. You know what? I mean, the intention is there, and it's very sweet.

Yeah, I mean, honestly, let's just get the cats out of the bags deal. We met on a message board about Housewives and decided to just start a podcast. We actually haven't been friends for that long. Nope, everything else is fake. We didn't go to high school together. I don't even know his last name. All these, I still don't know my last name, but all of these stories that we made up, completely hoaxed.

We just met in the message board. Reddit, actually, subreddit. Yeah, I don't even want to clarify that this is a joke. I want some of you to actually believe that this is true. They will. But my little add-on, and this is just because it really genuinely made me L-O-L. I ruffled. I ruffled a little bit.

This is from Am Resin commented, Blue Hat got me bricked up. Got me Bricked Up is one of my favorite phrases. God, that's such a good one. I got somebody bricked up. Oh, man. Sorry, buddy. I should have been using that all. week just like I'll look at the ocean just be like wow that ocean looks beautiful got me

bricked up no I mean it's not like the most PC thing to say you can just walk around saying like oh I'm sure I can't owner now I didn't I'm not saying I have a boner now you're I'm hiding it behind yeah behind a what you're a high what it's a different phrase yeah I know everybody knows that bricked up I know but then if you have to that makes it worse because then you have to explain it sounds like you have to poop actually yeah I got me bricked up hit toilet buddy we could do this for a while let me just move on to yours Well, I mean, look, I've been on vacation all week, so there's not a lot going on as far as things that are taking me down in life. I've got one that's kind of funny, though, because I've seen her comment on things before.

This is from overthinking sin on Twitter. I guess it was on our recent episode with Kate Casey. We posted a new thing, and we included a picture of ourselves from our live show from New York. And she said, okay, pause, why do the bros look so good in this promo? I love the growth from episode one to now. awesome love that I do too but are they implying that we physically look for

that's my thorn we always look good shut up the same we haven't changed physically I think maybe she's commenting on the fact that like our production value has improved like I took it personally our post no I mean the post looks better than I look maybe it was a backhand compliment

let's just say it was a backhand compliment I don't know if she's implied maybe we had a glow up maybe we didn't realize we had a glow up I mean look we're rich now we've got a successful podcast You're a fucking idiot. We are not rich. We have a successful podcast, but we are far from.

You know why we're rich? Because we don't pay our guests when they come on the show. Yeah, yeah. We pull up Bethany and we don't pay anybody. Nah. Anyway, that's your Rose and Thorne. Rose and Thorne. Oh, it's a Rosie Thorne.

I'm a big Rosie Thorne fan. But, yeah, those are good. I like those. But we got a lot to talk about. So let's jump right in with the news. I think up first on everybody's agenda and everybody's feed is Carl and Lindsay are allegedly Dunzo. They called off the engagement.

Yeah. Shocking news, honestly. I think they got, when did they get engaged? Pretty much Labor Day last year. So like less than a year. Even more shocking, the news that came out of it was they're actively talking about it on the show.

So like in their confessions. Yeah. Now, I mean, I can't imagine we're going to get that initial like, this isn't working. Let's end the engagement. But you're going to get the aftermath from it.

I can already call it. I can already think about it. It's going to be brutal to watch the other girls in that house. Oh, fuck. I hope for the love of God, look, this is like a serious thing. I don't care how much you dislike Lindsay. It's a very serious thing. They broke up.

We hope it was amicable. We hope it was mutual. And all of those things. And we hope that they're getting to a better place. Maybe they just weren't meant together. Whatever. Who cares? But if the rest of them age, Amanda, if they get behind their phones and they start

like chit-chat and back and forth and they're giggling off camera, that's going to really bother me. I don't care who it is. You just don't root for somebody's downfall like that, especially actively and especially on fucking cameras. I'm not going to say they're going to do it, but I could see it happening, and that's really going to bother me.

Do you think that we will see throughout the summer maybe Lindsay starts to lean more back into her party side and Carl's leading further into his sobriety and recovery lifestyle, which is fine. You can go your separate ways. Do you think that that's going to be one of the major caveats for this breakup? I could see that.

I mean, for what we've seen all summer, it looks like everybody's friends again. I mean, everybody's out like Danielle's with them a lot. That's kind of where that comes from. Yeah. But Carl's been there too. And you never really know the inner workings of somebody's relationship, especially when they're on camera. They're going to be showing a completely different side of their relationship.

I feel like Carl and Lindsay show a bit of both. Yeah. I mean, yeah, one of our bigger gripes when they first started dating was it looks like a fairy tale and everybody else kind of said that. But towards the end, you could kind of see them, you know, they had disagreements and they have things going on. So I don't really know I hate speculating on something like that because again, these are people. Yeah, it's not

speculate too hard. I don't want to speculate too hard, but yes, I could see that because that is like a fundamental issue within their relationship. And if you can't figure that out, and if it makes Carl feel some type of way, even if it makes Lindsay feel some type way. Either way. Either way, it can go both ways there. It might not work. And

I could see that being like more of a crux of the whole thing. Yeah. And you know, as somebody in recovery, it is a thing. You know, and And I'm fortunate, Dev doesn't really drink that much. And since we've been together, she's kind of gotten even further away from it. Not because I care. I really don't.

Like if she wanted to have wine, she just chooses not to now. But there are situations where, yeah, that is an issue. And it's not up to the sober person to demand sobriety out of their partner. Like, that's not for anybody to tell anybody to do. So if that is something they could not kind of get on the same page with as much as it sucks, like, yeah, it is better for both. of them to go their separate ways it's not fair to carl obviously because he's in recovery and it's not fair to lindsay for carl to ask that of her so as you said i think what we're both in agreement here is hopefully it's amicable hopefully they are still friends at least and things can

go on peacefully and they can just kind of go their separate ways like it just wasn't meant to be you know it would suck though if it's not amicable oh yeah no just a little tin hat action summerhouse has been dying for years wait what if they're doing this for fucking what if they're no I don't know for views no I don't know the whole thing well I will say this I again Scandible has completely warped my mind yeah which I think and I am I know I talked about it a couple of weeks ago I'm up to like 20% that the whole thing's fake um well 20% yeah that's but still that's that it goes up every time now but now you're starting on 10 then you went 50 now you're back to 20% I never went to 50 did I am not 50% in anything pal I'm well aware of that

skeptical I but a dick joke no but it could have been definitely could have been definitely It could have been. I got to be quicker. No, I really do think that Scandaval has kind of worked my mind and I'm looking at these things. And again, we're watching this so much and we keep our eye on the public opinion about these shows. And we know that summer house is dying. I mean, we sort of led that charge for a little while. They're just talking about how they need to reboot.

That's how we got our Carl interview. I know, exactly. And they need to do this and they need to do that. I hope it's not because, again, we want these shows to be real at the end of the day. But if it was, I wouldn't be super surprised. I will never find that out. And I don't, like, honest, like, honest opinion, I really don't. I think there are so many fundamental challenges to that relationship to work out.

I'm not saying it couldn't have. I'm not saying that either of them are bad people. It's just those two to fit together. They had to overcome a lot of obstacles. So that one could make sense to me. But, I mean, we'll see. And it's one of those things now again, we were watching Atlanta, the finale. Once again, cameras are fired up post-production.

So, while they're still- I- Seeing it over and over again, cameras keep getting fired back up. This is the third finale in a row that we've had where they've had to reopen the game. Right. I don't think they're going to have to do it for Summerhouse just because they typically go through Labor Day anyway. And if this news is coming out before Labor Day, we're going to get it on. I know, but we're going to get it on film.

Maybe they'll keep a camera or two around just for Carl and Lindsay, but we're not, I mean, we're not going to get like the full reboot of everything else and have to go through a couple more weeks. I don't think so. That we get a full cameras back up post-production with Summerhouse. It would have to be, we have to be. we have to agree on a date later than, so Labor Days this weekend. So I would agree if it's after September 22nd.

Okay, deal. If there are anywhere in like October or anything like that, you're on, you're good. No, it's anywhere after September 22nd. If they just let it, yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, cool. Okay, fine. Gentlemen's agreement.

There we go. Round of golf. I like that. No, but we wish them the best, honestly. Hopefully they're okay. Yeah, hopefully they figure out. We're not assholes. We're not.

Usually. The other news is Erica Jane premiered her new show, her new residency in Vegas. From what I saw, despite people being just mean in the comments, because they don't like Erica Jane, I think it went well. Zach was there. He said it was a great time. He enjoyed it. He's also an Erica Jane, like, die hard.

Take it with a great assault there. Yeah, I'll take it with a great of assault. I love you, buddy. But, you know, he loves, he rides or dies for her. So we'll see. But would you go to the show? No. I wouldn't.

I had no chance. I would check it out. I don't know. It depends. I mean, Vegas is such a, it's just such a beast that maybe I would go just to go. No, no, no, I'm saying like, if you were in Vegas, you knew you were going to be in Vegas for like a week. Oh, God. I just fucking.

Nobody go to Vegas for a week. Stop reading so far into the specifics. It's so annoying doing hypotheticals with you because to get to the actual question takes like 20 fucking minutes. You don't have to know the parameters. You're in Vegas for a week. Regardless, would you go to the show? No. Thank you.

God damn it, moving on. We're in Atlanta. No, there's a whole other aspect of this whole thing that you're completely missing. Oh, my bad. She's involved in a huge lawsuit. Oh, right. Right. That's not why I wouldn't go to the show.

No, carry on. Yeah, so apparently this guy is claiming that she teamed up with Amex? She teamed up with members of the Secret Service and Amex to conspire to maliciously prosecute him in April of 2017 with wire fraud. an identity theft. So now there's charges for goods and services that are totaling about $800,000 to $900,000. She cannot stay out of legal trouble. This is a complete aside

from the whole Tom Gerardy thing. This is a completely different thing. That has nothing to do. And she's, for all intents and purposes, pretty clear from all of that now, I think. I think that she's pretty much exonerated from it. There's a couple lawsuits still floating around. But to your point, I think that this is an easy target

for whoever this fucking guy is for him to be like, oh, she's already in the line of fire with the Tom Girardi stuff. I'm going to throw another glass or rock at this glass house to try to knock it down, this house of card, sorry, to try to, I think he's trying to take advantage of the fact that she's been in the spotlight. Could be. I think it's a little far removed if this came out, you know, three, four, five months ago maybe. But now it's just my main focal point with her is she just can't stay out of trouble like this.

There's got to be something going on. It's not even simple. Wait, wait, wait, wait, just let me. like seriously this guy is claiming to be working that she worked with the Secret Service and Amex to scam him come on members of the Secret Service and American

Express like here she's he's claiming that she has the power to work with a major credit card supplier I don't know man come on that this is ridiculous I don't think everything Erica Jane's doing is on the up and up I think that for you to read this tabloid fucking article I'd be like oh there could be some

merit like I'm not I'm not even looking at the merit of this specific case All I'm saying is, yes, things are getting thrown at her. Maybe you're taking the low-hanging fruit aspect where she's, like, out there. Yeah, that's obvious. I'm taking a different direction and saying there's things being thrown at her. Some of these things have to be true. Something has to be true out here.

And you think that it's this? I don't think it's this thing at all. No. No, relax. Yeah, pal. I'm just trying to say this is a ridiculous thing. No, not this. I'm just saying the fact that she's got these things being thrown at her constantly.

Some of this shit has to be true. There's no chance in hell that she's out there just completely squeaking. If you're completely squeaky clean, none of these things would have popped. But I'm just saying, like, this is some dude claiming a very ridiculous. Yeah, no, I don't think that part. And the Tom Girardi stuff, she got dragged into because of Tom. And look, I was on, we both were on the side of, yeah, she's lying with the Tom Girardy thing. She has proven it in court time and time again that she really wasn't involved.

She's been exonerated of a lot of these charges and cases. So, like, to your point, I see what you're saying where there's smoke, there's fire. But to her credit, she continues to win in court. this recent claim is fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah. What do you want for me? I want to move on.

Just want to move on. The last thing that we need to talk about, and that'll jump us right into our Atlanta recap. But rumors through the grapevine is that at first it came out that Atlanta was being completely rebooted. That went around like wildfire. Everybody was claiming that that was true. Since then, it's come out that in Brabara.

even spoke out and says, we haven't made any decisions yet. It seems like the most recent update is that they're keeping a few of the OGs, but rebooting a lot of the others. And then Sonia came out and said, you guys are all trying to, like, read between the lines here, nothing, like, you don't know, we don't know, you don't know, just wait. I think the Bravo's response to it, at least from what I saw, is because their producers for Atlanta were getting actual hate mail. from the Atlanta fans.

They were getting straight up death threats, which look, we know that with a lot of these franchises, there are fans out there that will do anything to keep their show on the air. They will have people not change one aspect of it. We've said before, you know, Atlanta could use some shifting around.

Who would you keep out of three or four? I would say, I can give you mine first if you needed a second, but... I got mine. Go ahead. I would think the candy is probably going to move on. She just seems like she's stretched too thin. She's got a lot going on. And I'm okay with that. I mean, if she, she can for sure pop up wherever the hell she wants. Back in Atlanta, ultimate girls trips, special episodes, whatever the hell she wants

to do. She can do whatever she wants. I think maybe she moves on. Obviously, you're going to have to have through her back next year just because of what's going on. I think you bring back Sonia because she's one of the only people who really gave you a whole lot this year. And Marlowe gave you a good amount this year, too. Like, I think those are my three. And then if I had to stretch to four, not including Courtney because she's a friend of or Manietta because she's a friend of I guess Kenya maybe

I think that's kind of where you draw the line though I mean Shirey doesn't bring a whole lot to the table anymore she just does these healing trips that never work out which I guess is good for the show but really she's just orchestrating it anybody can do that could not be further from me I think that you keep because you hate me today

no no it's just genuinely if you look at it from again like obviously we haven't been around with the show for the entirety of it, but I think that if you look at the landscape as far as what the people want, it seems as though if you want to not anger the die-hard Atlanta fans and move into the future, you have to keep Kenya, Candy, Shire, and Marlowe's on the bubble. That's what I think only because... Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I think that that keeps the peace the most. I think the other ones, unfortunately, I do think Drew's expendable. I think that even though she's,

she carried the show this season. That was a lot of people's issue, was that Drew's drama was the center point, the focal point, and a lot of it seemed. I can't, and I think we agree with this. You can't blame Drew, her drama is the focal point. I think she did a good job. That's what the fans are going to do, and I think you're right. Well, they blame production, and I agree, and I saw something tonight we're going to point out

when we get there that I fucking hated from production. But the general consensus, a lot of fans do not have an issue with the women. of Atlanta. A lot of fans have an issue with production period. So I think it would be a really interesting move. Don't touch the cast. Just fire the entire production team, the entire production team and get a whole new

production team, let them run it back one more season, see how they do, and see if it is production. Because if that's the case for Bravo as a whole, they can reevaluate a lot of their franchises that are on this bubble and be like, oh, well, if we make a production change, maybe it'll get better. And I think with this big transition period, you're seeing we have a reboot, right? That worked.

We have Miami sat on the sidelines for five, six years. They brought them back. That worked. So there's options now. They're trying different things out. I think the next logical step would be to fire an entire production team, keep the cast, and see how things go. Yeah, as long as we get actual confirmation that production was let go and they don't just start using production as a scapegoat because honestly, you can probably get rid of production for every show out there. Yeah.

Like get rid of the Beverly Hills production for the love of. God. Enough of that bullshit. Like, see what Salt Lake does this year. If it doesn't perform, get rid of production or get rid of the show. I don't care. O.C., get rid of the show. Jersey, get rid of production. Like, enough. And do a little bit of a cast shakeup. Maybe get rid of one of the big players so that it might be able to open up a little bit more.

There's a lot that you can do. And they do have a lot of moving pieces, which is good, obviously. And that's what we want. Yeah. So as long as we can see that they're trying to do something. And they don't do it out of fear, because that's kind of where you were showing who you would bring back or who you think Bravo would bring back. Right.

They're doing that out of fear. They're not doing that out of content. I'm thinking from my aspect of who I would bring back, this is content. I want good content. I want a good show. I want good storylines. And I'm not getting enough from these other people. And again, Candy's not part of that.

Candy, I just think personally that she's stretched through thin and she has a lot going on, that maybe the show isn't really a priority for her anymore, which is okay, which is cool. I think we saw that throughout the season. Yeah. And if she's going to be a little checked out during the show, which towards the end of the season, she did step up with the pot movie and everything. but the rest of them like Kenya didn't do a lot this year

and I know that she's done a lot in the past couple of years but as we know with Bravo just because you've done a lot in the last couple of years doesn't mean that you're going to be on the show forever what's interesting with Kenya if you read the comments and the message boards and all that stuff people either love Kenya a lot of people credit Kenya coming to the show

is when the show started to shift towards like a negative turn when it started to kind of go downhill like when Nini Leaks left and then you get Kenya coming on to the show. They say Kenya was too produced and she tries to force too many things. That's not my opinion. I am relaying information that I have read and gathered. But I think that overall, you can't deny that the first season we ever get involved with Atlanta, they're canceling the show apparently. It's our fault. It's got to be our fault. No, I mean, I was looking back on it today because I completely forgot that this was even the finale.

And thinking back on it, I don't remember one extended instance this entire season where they were just having fun. Oh, no. Just the one time of Portugal, but Kenya wasn't there and Kenny wasn't there when they were doing the pottery stuff. Oh, right, right.

That's the only time that they were all just having fun together. There wasn't drama. There's always some shit going on, and that's okay, I get that. We need fun. We need good times that show that these women are friends. Fucking OC, and they all hate each other. Oh, well.

Or they don't even like each other. I have no idea. But this takes us directly into, Atlanta and I texted you and asked you while I was watching it can I title this episode Ralph's a bitch and you said, eh, probably not. So to all of you listening now, that's what I wanted to title this episode, but shooter, you know, cooler heads prevailed. And I probably shouldn't title it that. It's nice of the way you said to me a text and text. You said that I was getting soft. I did tell you you're getting soft. I know when you watch the shows,

though, that you get very emotional. I do. I get it. So either I won't respond and I'll just let you simmer down and then I'll talk to a person. Usually you do that. Or God forbid I ever give you a thumbs up, then you just freak the fuck out. I think that's rude. It's dismissive. I want to know like our audience, you guys, if you text somebody and ask a question or it's an open-ended comment and they just give you the thumbs up, what do you think? Open-ended, I don't do. If you say do you want to come over at like 4 p.m. I'm pretty good. I'll click you with a thumbs up and you get mad about that. Yeah, because it's a question. Because I don't say yes. Yes. The thumbs up means yes. You know, the thumbs up means I'm not taking the time to respond.

You're not important enough. That's what I mean. Most of the time I do it on my watch because I'm doing something else. Probably golfing. Right. So you're, I'm not a priority. If I was, I responded at all. Thumbs up implies I am not a priority and that upsets me.

Look, I don't respond to most people. I don't either. So really bad at texting. I give you a response. That's good. All right, whatever. I'll take what I can get, I guess. But that takes us to the Atlanta finale.

And I didn't realize it was the finale either. We have been doing Atlanta for like four and a half of months. I know. I didn't realize that until they started rolling the catch up with the castmates or whatever towards the end. I was like, whoa, all right. I forgot about half the shit. I was like, well, we've been doing this for a while. This is a long-ass season.

I still expected like four more episodes, which I guess we're going to get like a three-part reunion, but. No, I think it's a two-parter. I don't know that for sure before people are like, you said, we'll be two-parts. I don't know. I've just seen a couple things say that it looks like a two-part. Just putting it out in the universe, which we'll think. wishful thinking. But we start out with a sort of cryptic confessional and we didn't really need it. We all knew what this finale was going to be about. It's been alluding to it for the entirety of the season. It's been a topic the entire season and it's something that we watched happen in real time. And that was Drew and Ralph's divorce. And this is kind of setting up the episode for that. But before we get to all the Ralph stuff, the first scene I want to talk about as Sonia and she's at the OBGYN getting everything checked out, making sure the baby's okay and this is where I had my massive issue with production and editing as a whole when we got

the scenes from next week last week they painted this scene like something was wrong with the pregnancy yeah because she has a big reaction to something the doctor says come to find out it was all in jest they were just joking back and forth for production to use her pregnancy and potentially there being a problem which we find out later in the episode there was an issue with her pregnancy but for them to tee it up like oh fuck what's going on it's it's terrible like it was really fucked up yeah i i didn't know either that she had lost the baby until the end of the episode so like that wasn't i don't know if we just weren't privy to that information or maybe we just didn't get to it in the content of everything and on social media but it was it was just fucked up

i mean it's there's no other way to put it the fact that they teased it for two weeks and they did that's not what happened not only that but like look i get it. You sign up for these shows and you want to share some personal details and obviously being pregnant is a big thing. And look, look, they were happy. They were so excited to have the baby. They had the t-shirts and everything. You can include all of that. That's okay. But the OBGYN aspect of it and two straight episodes of her bringing her son to the OBGYN and then also talking about him again. And then including the aspect of the doctor talking about it saying don't include him until 12 weeks.

That's, it's foreshadowing that you could see in a movie, but in real life, it's like, fuck, man. Like, don't, just scrap that. She's going to scrap it. Like, she's going to rewatch it. She's going to break down. She's going to cry. Like, obviously she will.

We were, like, it just doesn't make any sense to include something like that. Just, yes, you can include last weeks, but don't double down on it now. Don't include the actual content of the doctor talking about that. Don't sit there and make it seem like in this visit, they drop a bomb about the pregnancy, which they didn't. Everything was okay at this visit. We don't find out that she had a miscarriage until later. They teed up like something is wrong, which is...

They teased. Production teased a miscarriage. That's the only way to put it. And it's horrible. It's terrible. And like, she has to rewatch this shit. And look, I commented on it last week. I said, I don't think it's like super smart to get your kid involved in this thing.

Right. As if something goes wrong. That being said, you do not have to hammer this home. She's got it. She knows that she made a mistake by telemark. do. She had to fix that mistake and have a terrible, difficult conversation with her five-year-old about a miscarriage. So Bravo production, go fuck yourselves. Like, leave her alone. She's been through enough. It was horrible. That whole scene sucked. But moving on, we get to Ralph and Drew, and we're

going to talk about them a whole lot this episode and a whole lot of Ralph, who is, in my opinion, one of the worst husbands in the history of all of Bravo and in the world. But Drew's talking to him. She just got home from filming. She got like one hour of sleep. She was on set all night. I've never seen her be rude to him. No, neither of I. She's only been nice and she's only been trying to appease his attitude. And he's always contentious towards her. There's always something going on with him, yeah.

It doesn't make any sense. She's like, I haven't seen you in a while. Like, what's been going on? He's like, oh, just, he's always grinding. Grinding. You're grinding on somebody. That's what you're doing. You're out there grinding on some chick that's not your wife.

I firmly believe that. I don't think, I want to know what Ralph does. You're not push a tea. You're not grinding, buddy. Shut the fuck up, Ralph. It's just, it, that side. So I actually wrote. out a bunch of lines that I really love about what Ralph said in this episode.

You want to do that now? Not all of them, but I'm just going to point out the ones that I liked a lot, pretty much as we go scene to scene. And this scene is, there's a lot of them. Just because between that and then when he goes downstairs and Drew's family's there, but in this, him starting off with the grind and was wild. But then Drew's saying, yeah, I'm really tired too. And he goes, well, how's the movie going?

Okay, there's a good question. See how it's going. I'm really tired. There's a lot going on. Why? All you're doing is sexy. Like, are you fucking dumb? Like, this is what we talked about last week.

He didn't do anything. He didn't care about any of the movie until Drew said, yeah, I'm in the sex scene. Then his ears perked up. We couldn't tell if he was horny or mad. Still have no fucking idea. Honestly, really have no idea. And then that's what he focuses on. He just goes, oh, you're just doing sex scenes.

Like, that's fine. You shouldn't be too tired from that. She's still getting home at like 1 a.m. 2 a.m. in the morning. He's also doing a lot more than that, dick. Yeah, it's just wild. He's not an interesting guy. He's just an asshole.

He's also dumb. Like, he's just a dumb guy. And he thinks that he's so prolific in the things he's saying. He thinks he's so well-versed and he thinks that he knows better than everybody. And he spends these crazy word salads thinking that he's coming out looking like a genius. And he just looks dumber. But in this scene, congratulations, Ralph. You just belittled her movie.

You belittled her profession. You acted like your job is more important than her, thus making you and your life more important than her. which is ridiculous for a husband to do and it leans further into it because then he's saying like oh you're coming in late I need to sleep so that I can get out there and grind and I can get out there and make that money

and all this other stupid shit and then he goes downstairs Allison who's clearly not into him Allison clearly doesn't like him just from the look she gave him when he walked down the stairs and she clearly knows but while they're still upstairs

and like the bitch video like Drew actually has the video and this is where I'm really confused I'm so confused because she clearly points at Sonia and says this bitch So she's clearly calling Sonia a bitch But she's not even calling Sonia bitch

She's referencing this bitch over here Like I call shoot her a bitch frequently Yeah The whole bitch thing is so confused about it Until Courtney confirmed it at the very end But yes I did allude to you as that bitch But did she I think Courtney was also First of all

When we get to Courtney later Courtney is a snake Oh yeah Courtney is a snake I actually enjoyed that though I was okay with that I did too It was great for the show But I was like oh wow From the top bro

Who knew But The video comes out, and Ralph does the exact opposite of what a husband's supposed to do. He's like, well, you guys all call each other a bitch. It's like, she's upset about this, Ralph. Your job and role as her husband and partner is to support her and say, wow, that bitch, like, wow, you're so right, honey, anything other than questioning her because, one, she's exhausted. Two, she's looking for support.

Three, this is clearly a dying marriage, and it's clearly your fault. She says, the problem is that she's talking behind my back. sorry, she's talking behind our back. And Ralph goes, what's she saying about me? No, no. No, if you're married, it's all encompassing, my friend. If they're talking shit about your wife, if someone talks shit about

Dev, they're inadvertently talking shit about me and I'm going to have an opinion about it, and I'm going to be on Devon's side no matter what, ride or die, that's what you do when you're married. He creates a separation between the two, and that's when they go downstairs and Allison literally spells it out for him. If they called her

a banana, and she doesn't like that, your job is to support that, you moron, you emotional too. And that's where my second favorite Ralph line comes in. Oh, that's here. He gestures towards Allison and says, how do you feel about like your friends probably call you a bitch? Like even Allison calls you a bitch. Like she says that bitch over there. Allison then goes into the banana thing, whatever. And then Ralph stops her and goes, you know what, Allison? No one asked you. I don't need that from you. After he just asked her her opinion on it. Immediately after, like seconds later. It was just, It didn't work for what the, I guess, the argument that he was trying to push on Drew,

which, by the way, I think Drew handled all of this, like, perfectly. She's handled Ralph well all season, honestly. She not only was able to convey her point and get everything across, but she stayed with her emotions intact. And maybe it's just because she was really tired, honestly. It could be that? Like, she didn't really have time or the emotions to deal with it. But she's talking to Ralph, and Ralph is the one who's getting upset.

The whole thing is just, hey, dude, she even pointed out the thing that we've been talking about for weeks. You've known this woman for, since, yes. Yesterday. She's been your cousin since yesterday. Stop doing it. Although I had an issue with Drew earlier in the season because she was also calling her a cousin and treating her like such. But if Ralph was doing that, then she is going to follow suit because she rides for Ralph. And then it's not mutually the other way as well. So that's the problem. Yeah. And it was just, it was a bummer to see. And then she starts crying. And Ralph's like, why are you crying? Because of you, Dick?

Moving on from there, I actually really enjoyed this scene. I thought it was funny only because Shire takes it so well. but she's in the daughter in the daughter in the daughter with her car yep she's in the car with her daughter and tierra knew about kandis the secret daughter that bob had yep we didn't know about kandis candis is new to the scene shiree has no issue with the fact that her daughter didn't tell her she and i love this aspect of it i think it takes a very mature approach to be like it's not their business and it's not they have they have no responsibility to their mom when it comes to parenting issues, that's between Bob and Sherey. So I like the fact that she's able to be like, yeah, I don't blame you.

It's fine. But it's funny that her daughter also was like, wait, like he's known about this child for a long time. And Shrey's like, oh, yeah. And she's like, oh, I thought this was like a long loss. Like, oh, I'm your daughter kind of situation. She's like, no. And they're both like, damn. But we get a quick check in with Marlowe and Scotley.

Things seem to be going really well. Love Scott. She's a friend boy, boyfriend, I don't know. Love that. Yeah, we always love that. We don't need a label. We're happy that she's happy. We're happy that her and Scottley are doing their thing.

They genuinely seem to like each other when they're together. The weird, and it's just such a small point, but when they're talking about Candy's party that Marlow just got invited to and she was reading the text message, Scottley immediately looks and he goes, yeah, you know what, I'm free tomorrow night, I'll be there, I'll come. I love that. Immediately doesn't have a second thought, doesn't have some made up fucking plan. How often do we see that? People asking significant others, people asking their husband.

whoever, hey, you want to go do this thing? I got to see if I can clear my schedule. I got to do this or whatever. Immediately, he's just like, yeah, I'm free tomorrow, and I can do that. He might not even be free, but he's going to make himself free because he wants to hang around with you. Instead of the other husbands who want you to think at home

that they have these super important, crazy, busy lives, they don't have time for their wives. Right. Yeah, grinding. Maybe on aiming this episode, Ralph is grinding. My gears. On other, yeah, Ralph is grinding. Dot, dot, dot, my gears.

That's not bad. That's pretty good. Bitch? I want to fit bitch in there. I know, I know, I know. Just know, as you're listening to this, I'm sitting here brainstorming with the name of this episode. Everybody's going to go back and read the name of the episode, too. Yeah, I know.

So hopefully I come up with something. There's still time. But we get to Kenya at home with her dad. And as we know, she's trying to, I don't know if the word is rebuild her relationship with her dad, but they're working on their relationship together, which is important. And I think that she's doing it also for her daughter's sake. And while Kenya is not my favorite, I do appreciate the relationship she has with her daughter. she does seem very involved she loves her daughter very much we love to see that and i will say

and you know me i get more introspective than most when i watch these shows but i do love the fact that they address her and the importance of her reconnecting with her father and trying to make that relationship work because as a dad when i'm watching this i'm like wow like you really don't always know when you're a parent like what's going to affect your kid like right like the importance of being present, the importance of being there and being attentive to your relationship with your child is so important. It's something that, you know, Kenya's in her 40s, full-blown adult, and yet her relationship with her dad is still something that pains her and something that she wants to get better.

So it's just like a good reminder, like pay fucking attention to your kids. It's important. But the big conversation they have is about having a kid, Kenya having another child, and he is like, the last one almost killed you. So why would you do that? he says, well, I was going to get a surrogate, and he agrees. He's like, that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea.

Yeah. So I like that, and I like that we get to watch them kind of start to gel a little bit more. It seems like things are going well. So, again, Kenya's not my fave, but we'll always be happy with scenes like that. Now we get to Dr. Ken. And oh boy, oh, boy, I wish you could have been here to watch me watch this scene. How did you feel when they walked in and Dr. Ken was like, what's up, my brother and, like, gives them a huge handshake and, like, strong arms them and gives them a hug. Like, that's your therapist.

Yeah. You shouldn't have that kind of relationship. I didn't have a problem with that. My problem was with Ralph's response to that. I thought he was trying to be, like, he tried to be so cool and suave and like, yeah, whatever, man. That was the whole, the whole entire session he was trying to be cool and swab. He's all he ever tried. He's cracking jokes.

He's an idiot. He's so dumb. Let's just start. Even in this moment where Ralph has been checked out of, it's marriage counseling. Marriage counseling takes two people. Marriage takes two people. Marriage counseling with one of the parties present. doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Drew tries to give him credit for showing back up. It's like you, at every turn, she is trying. And as us, the viewers at home, like, you can see her trying. She gets nothing back in return. Instead, she gets him self-proclaiming and self-righteously saying, I've been working on myself outside of here, Dr. Ken. I've been doing the work. He's like, well, what have you been doing?

He's like, well, I moved out of the room. Oh, he goes, I moved out. And with a big smile on his face and then threw his arms up. Like, he was excited and he thought Dr. Ken was going to be like, my man, way to go, way to go. That's not positive. Nope. That's a bad thing. Not only did you move out of the bedroom.

Just crickets after that. You didn't tell her. You just did it. You moved into a bunk bed. Yeah. And I think that's the problem is like, I mean, there's a lot of problems here. But with that specifically, he was able to move out. And the way that he views that is liberating.

Not the end of my marriage, not, you know, I wanted to move out. Now I can kind of focus on myself and try to figure out myself for this marriage. All he cares about is himself. Yep. And that's all he cares about. He makes it very apparent. And Drew then has to talk about the fact that the kids are starting to ask about it, which sucks. Like, and what's the first thing Ralph says?

You're lying. Yep. That's a lie. No. She has the text, Dick. And she pulls out the text. And again, she defends Ralph. She says, oh, Daddy just is going to sleep in there while I'm shooting the movie because I get home really late and he needs to sleep.

But as soon as the movie's over, he's going to be back in there. Don't worry about it. Like the kids are questioning what's going on. Ralph is so selfish that he says that you're lying about. the children. Yep. The children. What do you?

Rule number one. Leave the kids out. Your own kid. When Drew proves that she wasn't lying with the text, he says, it's the way you say it. You frame it to make me look like the bad guy. No, she didn't. No, she didn't. She actually defended you.

She gave an excuse for why you moved out. That's not why you moved out, but she still has your back with kids because that's what you're supposed to do. This is between you two, not the children. You're calling her a liar about the kids. That's, again, stupid. When he starts to dive into why he left the rule. And obviously he said because he wanted to be liberated and focus on himself and to be more comfortable.

And then he has the audacity to say, I did it for Drew too so that she could be more comfortable. Well, then you're clearly not listening to her because she said time and time again. She wants to be with you. She wants more time with you. She wants to figure things out. She doesn't need space. You're giving her space and using her as a shield to say that it's for her benefit. That is manipulative.

That's gaslighting. It's borderline misogynist that you're telling her what she wants. when she's telling you to your face what she actually wants and you're just completely ignoring it because her feelings and thoughts don't seem to matter to you because your shit's somehow more important even though nobody knows what the fuck you do you're a dumbass and you're a terrible husband and seemingly a bad dad because you're not paying attention to the kids in this you're actually blaming her for how the kids are responding to you being an asshole yeah i mean there's not really much else to say nope not a lot to say there i will say for dr ken doesn't really seem like the right fit here And maybe we're not getting a lot on film for him. That's tough, right? I don't know how much they can show. But one, his interaction with Ralph when he walked in, didn't really care for that. Two, when Ralph says dumb shit, what does Dr. Ken do?

Nothing really. But I don't. See, I think the difficult part is in marriage counseling. He has to maintain some level of neutrality. He can't. I don't. Sure, but I feel like he can say something to Ralph specifically, like, why are you? you doing that? Why aren't you focusing on maybe what we talked about you doing or this and that?

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off plus free shipping. Up next, we're Candy's Rat Party and We get a T.I. Siding. We got a tiny siding. You know, I love to see some celebs show up. And Candy, I really like that she's talking up, Drew, especially in front of Kenya. I really like that because she's like Drew's doing her thing. She's acting. She's singing. She talks about the song. The song is good. You can't deny that. It's a bop. Like, I enjoy the song.

Yep. So, yeah, she is doing her thing. And it's nice that I think we don't understand. And this cast doesn't understand in this moment how desperately Drew needs some kind of support. She needs something from somebody And I'm glad that Candy's at least there to pick her up And give her a pat on the back Regardless of how you feel about Drew

She's going through a ton of shit But now we get the Allison and Courtney drama And To her credit You know I love that Courtney went to go hug Allison Allison doesn't fuck with her And refuses to hug her I love that

I love her being like no no It's genuine Yeah we're not tight Because it's actually a thing Yeah Yeah they're not going to do with fake They're like oh it's so nice to see you So nice to see you

You know what it is too and we saw Allison like Allison is back in Drew's life and it's a big moment for her. She's really happy to be back in Drew's life. She was with her when she was a child star. She's now back at her life and she feels like Drew's accepted her back in. And she is really standing up for Drew against Ralph. She was the one who broke down and cried and was yelling at Ralph towards the end of that scene. She gets in here and she knows that there's drama about Courtney.

Courtney is Ralph's cousin. She knows that Drew doesn't really fuck with Courtney anymore. She knows what's going on specifically. Of course, like Allison is taking Ralph's position. This is what Ralph should be doing. Great call. Allison is showing up where Ralph is not showing up at all. That's what's going on here.

And I appreciated that just as much as I appreciated the way that Courtney was going after it. Yeah, I mean, Courtney, because I'm confused because watching the video, it's clear that she points at Sonia and says they even highlight. Yeah, I know. They point at Sonia. This bitch. Sonia. So it's very confusing. And I think the biggest thing, and I wrote it down in my journal, who cares?

That's really the biggest thing. And I think that every other woman on the couch that was listening to it. it and you could hear some of it. They all have the same reaction. We all call each other bitch all the time. It's not a big deal. Who cares? To me,

this is a reflection again of... Ralph, Ralph. Yeah, 100%. But... Or it could be a deflection of, I guess, Drew maybe did make out with Latoya. Well, I mean, that's...

She still feels like pretty vulnerable about that whole situation. That she wants to... This is not... This isn't about the... I think she's trying to squash it. And she's like, by doing this, you're not squashing it.

You're just keeping it open. Yeah, you don't... You could have just ignored it and just be like, nah, we didn't make it. out. Maybe we did. I don't really know. And just left it. Nobody would have talked about that. It would have been better, honestly. Would have been awesome. Yeah, that would have been a lot better. But Drew gets on stage and she's doing her performance of the song and we get, you know, the sign off from everybody.

They go through the list of people. And understanding while I'm watching, like, this is going to be the final sign off for some of these women, more than likely, assuming that everything we're seeing on social media is correct. We might be seeing some final sign offs. But Candy's feeling good. She's in a good place. Her and Todd always seemed cool. I never see an issue. with them. Yeah, I really like Todd. I like their relationship. I do too.

It seems genuine. When they have an issue with one another, it's brought up. They discuss it and they don't yell about it. They meet each other halfway. Love their relationship. I'm glad Candy's doing well. I hope she comes back. So do I.

I really enjoy watching her. I really do. And she's like, her life's really fucking. And I think she keeps the show together in a different way where she's so real. And she's like the rock, right? Yeah, she's the rock. They don't expect her to beat around the bush.

They expect her to give them a straight answer. And you need somebody like. that on all of these shows and I feel like candy does better than anybody else but we need her to be more checked in next season for sure absolutely like she clearly this and I don't know if it's because she's out on the show or just it didn't take priority over all of the other things that she had going on I'm leaning towards the ladder but if she comes back next season I hope that we get a reinvigorated candy ready to like put up numbers but marlowe and scotley are still doing their thing they're still together she even drops a proposal in there like laughs it up

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Hey, we'll see. With the laugh. That way, we'll see. And Shiree, we shrunk the fibroids. That's great news. Good job, Sherey. So she might not have been able to heal the group, but she was able to help heal herself.

So we love that for her. Kenya opened, or I guess soft opened her salon at least. It looked massive and it looked really, really nice. So I don't know if it's open open, but it's soft open. They did a Schwartz and Sandy soft open. Soft open number one. Probably better than that. Yeah, I think, I would assume it went significantly better.

And this will be one soft opening leading towards the grand opening. I don't think the Kenya is just using her salon as her personal place to go bring her friends to get their hair done or anything. Yeah, I don't think so much. I imagine that she's actually running a business venture as you're supposed to do when you invest your own money into a business. But anyway, that's when we get the cameras picked back up after the aftermath, right? We know that Ralph and Drew. And now that we know Ralph and Drew, because when we found this news out, we hadn't watched the show yet. Now that we know Ralph and Drew, the fact that they raced to the divorce court is even funnier.

Oh, it's hilarious. Just because you know that they're both going back and forth and you know Ralph's like storming out the door. And his mind, he's like, I have to file first. I have to file first. And Drew just responds to that energy because that's what she does. She feeds off of Ralph. And then she gets their first, thank God. 61 minutes.

Yeah, I love that. I love that she knew exactly what it was. Yeah. But so petty and so great. We get the rumors of Drew dating Thai. and Ty Young was a WMBA basketball player. She's retired now, and we'd heard this rumor as well. We didn't know much about it because we hadn't watched the show.

I was wondering where she got. I think Tai is her initials because her name's Tamara Young. Oh, is it? Because I recognize the name, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's interesting. But either way, whatever. But I thought it was interesting during the actual episode. You get that weird. I wrote down in my book, like, that's a weird edit because Ty's introduced and it's like slow frame.

It's like, boomes into Ty's face, and Ty looks good. Tye's got the glasses on, like, she looks good. Yep. So, like, I thought that that was an interesting edit. I mean, it was the most blatant foreshadowing I've ever seen in my life, so I knew what they were referencing. But we get the tie in later. Nice.

What? Oh, that was so good. Wow. Unintentional puns. Thank you. Those are my favorite. Let's just finish up with this. Then we'll talk about Sonia, but it's five.

days post-filing and they are talking to Drew and to Ralph separately. They can't say as much as we'd want them to because they are actively going through the divorce. So their lawyers both recommend like, no, you can't say X, Y, and Z. We find out that kids are starting to notice, which is really sad. We do see the group rallying behind Drew, which we love to see even Shire and, you know, Drew and Sheree have their shit. But Shere goes into Comforter and says, hey, if you need anything, and it's even more remarkable that Shire did this because her father passed away within the past few days before, yeah. The day before or two days before or something within that time frame and starts to get emotional

about it and has the wherewithal and the presence of mind to be like, that's not why I came in here. I came in here for you, which is so sad. And we find out that Drew's dad is not doing well either. He's no longer eating. So her mom can't be there to support her right now. So it's just a lot. There was a lot in that scene. And it was really heartbreaking.

And I thought that it really shows and speaks. because I go back and forth on Shiree. But I do think that at the core of Shiree, she's genuinely a good person. She cares about the people in her life. I would say so, too. I think there is something behind those healing trips that she does.

I don't think that it's just for the camera. I don't think it's for her own personal gain. I think that she actually genuinely cares about people around her. And you can see that in this moment. I don't think that she showed up there to try to get a check because it's the end of production

and I want to make sure I can get my face in front of the camera one last time or anything like that. I think she was actually there for Drew. and Drew needed that. I mean, Drew truly needed that. I was happy to see that pretty much everybody else, obviously, Sands Courtney, was on Drew's side,

and they were rallying behind her, just like you said. And how can you not? I mean, just watching, we haven't watched all of it. We watch one season. We get an idea of who Ralph is, and it's very cut and dry. He's an asshole. How can you not support Drew in this?

When she, seemingly, she's the only one who tried. She really did. She tried her ass off. You can't fault her there. But during this interview with Ralph, You know, we get very conflicting reports between the two back and forth. And, like, the one thing I can say is 1,000% true is Drew says I lost my voice. I allowed inappropriate relationships.

I allowed Tampa to happen. I allowed a lot of bullshit to happen that now, you know, stepping away from this and processing it. And it's going to take her a long time to process it fully. But she appreciates, you know, yeah, I, I turned a blind eye to a lot of shit. Then it goes to Ralph. And, you know, he's like, I can't say anything. And they're like, well, did you move back in the room? He was like, yeah, I came back in the room.

We go to Drew. She does no, he never moved back in, which I fully believe. Do I believe that Ty and Drew are together? I don't know. I don't know. I would not be flabbergasted. There's a lot of speculation on the sides and, like, we get some side talk. I think there's some merit there.

I think there definitely is just based off of, I'm not even going to throw in the Courtney Ralph of it all, because obviously they're going to say what they're going to say. I was going to say, I do think that they leave. From Drew's reaction to the news leaking and her. asking around and then kind of like putting her head down and smiling getting a little blush like there was something going on there she knew she knew what was going on there and like I mean I don't care Courtney says that she has pictures of them together Courtney this is where she comes in came out of fucking left field yeah that's where I was like she could have been a secret agent

for Ralph this entire season she was calculated the whole season and that last scene shows it and then dev was like she didn't think that she knew the cameras were still filming Courtney yeah I 100% knew. And she said something like, you got to keep this vodka away from me or whatever. And then they, like, pan the camera up and you can only see the top of her face. I think she thought they were done. No, I, oh, you do too? That's what that thing.

Yeah, I think she won. After she came out and, like, spoke out against Drew and was trying to, like, be famer in that moment. I was, I think that she fully knew that the cameras are still on. She was just going. She was just going. She was, like, letting it all out. But, I mean, time will tell. We'll see what comes of the tie and Drew relationship.

But the last thing, we got the check in with Sonia. and it was a very emotional scene. I cried. I texted Dev Sonia has me in tears because she recounts what happened with her pregnancy. And she went in for a checkup. I think it was like the seventh week or something like that. And the baby wasn't growing as they needed to. It was no longer a viable pregnancy, especially since she's older trying to get pregnant.

So they were going to do a DNC. But on a trip to New York, she ended up having a very traumatic miscarriage. she lost a ton of blood it was really bad for the point she's still trying to recover from all this and it's gut wrenching right it's it's absolutely gut wrenching to watch the strength and it's so admirable really to to watch her be able to share with us the viewer this awful thing that happened to her because a lot a lot a lot of people are going to resonate with it they're going to appreciate that she was able to discuss it because it's such a it's such an impossible top to really talk about.

Yeah, it is. And honestly, in this moment was when I got unreasonably mad at Bravo production. Yeah. You can, like,

if you know that Sonia's doing this and she's actively going to talk about this, which is, by the way, like you said, it's important

because there's so many other people that have gone through something like this, that might go through something like this, and it's important for somebody to share their story if they're willing.

Look, you're never going to push anybody to bounds that they don't want to go to, fully understand that. She was willing to share her story. That's enough. That's enough.

That's enough. tease it like you just three fucking episodes like again keep the first episode in there announce the pregnancy okay so we know where we're coming from you can do the first visit i guess if you want to and whatever you just don't need any more than that like it's bad enough you're doing all of this this is months and months later you know where your show is going to look like you do not need to include those extra scenes to really hammer something home that's already super traumatic and super real that we don't need hammered home no we just leave it alone be very delicate with something like this, let her tell her story, don't show her story as her happy,

happy, happy, happy, happy, happy, very sad. Like, it's just not, it doesn't work. It was really a bummer. I really didn't appreciate it, but overall, we enjoyed this season. I'll speak on both of our behalf. We liked it. I had no problems with this season, honestly. It was a good watch from start to finish.

Obviously, we're kind of comparing it to other shows that we've watched in this last year, and it's been kind of a down year for the last year for Bravo. So it was nice. I know that it wasn't the Atlanta of the past, but maybe we'll get to a stronger future. Here's the hopin. Here's the hopin. Here's the hopin.

But that takes us back to Shooter's favorite. We're back in Rossi, aka Orange County, and we start out with Terry and Heather Dubro, and they sell their house for a staggering mind-bottling, boggling, whatever you want to say, $55 million. That is a... It's not fucking you money. He's right.

That's fucking... It is. It really is. And like, no shade at all here. You know, that's a incredible number. But I was also thinking when their realtors, like, it's the third largest sale in OC history. I was like, who cares? Is that important?

Is that an important thing? I wanted to know who first and second were. That's probably some, like, crazy, massive. mansion that somebody built on a whim because they have nothing but money and it's like 200 million. I'm curious about the number one. I don't care about the number three. Is that just a me thing?

Probably just a you thing. Okay. Interesting. All right. That's fine. But they emphasize the fact that they have to be out in three weeks to which my first thought was you're not packing anything. How the fuck are you? Well, yeah, first off you're not packing shit. We're going to hire somebody to pack things. But you're saying, yeah. I don't know how they're going to get out in three weeks. That's a good point.

It's a massive house with a lot of stuff. Logistically speaking, that's a nightmare. But you're not going to do any of it. You also just got $55 million, so you can throw one of those million dollars to somebody to pack up your entire house. A million dollars to pack it all up. Sure. Sure. You haven't done it in two days. Here's a cool milly.

Here's a 1.5% of what we did. There you go. That's a, yeah. But they're going to, hats off to them. They're going to find a new place to live with the kids, I guess, in the, in the interim between, whoa, ghost. Our lights flickering in here. Ooh. Spooky season.

Wow, actually, that's a good timing. That is a good timing. Because we're going to the fall in O.C. Nice. But Taylor invites the crew to a fall festival is the next thing I wrote as we get spooky vibes in here. And everyone says yes. So they're all going to go to the pumpkin patch. This episode was rightly named pumpkins and paparazzi.

But I did not see Emily motorcycle shopping. No, I was really surprised by that. I was too. But then, you know what? It made sense to me. When she was walking around the bikes, I was like, I could see her being like a biker chick. Like, I could see that. Nothing super important happened during that.

stretch during that scene. I get Gina coming in, but like, whatever. Yeah. It was just cool to see on Lee motorcycle shopping. We haven't seen that before. We haven't, and she's, you know. Who else? We name one other house, but you could see on a motorcycle.

Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Across the franchises? Cross the franchises. Give me all of them. Okay. No, I'm not doing all of them. I'm just saying.

No, no, no. Just pick one. Dolores. I was going Jersey, too. I was going to go Danielle. I think either. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I could definitely see Dolores. Most of them in. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Everyone, but I could not see Teresa on a motorcycle. I can't see Jen on a motorcycle. No, Jen, I could see in a sidebar.

Like a Bentley motorcycle, yeah. Okay, cool. But I think we're on the same page. But the one thing that we do get during that scene with Gina is the, the CPS talk, the child protection services talk, and she's trying to get to the bottom of what exactly was said. I think it's really funny. I love when people do this.

When they went to law school, you didn't graduate law school. You went to law school. You can't do that. where you speak on behalf of what an attorney would think in a situation because you are not one. I love when people did one year of certain type of schooling and it makes them an expert on the topic. If you don't have the degree, if you didn't finish, I don't care about your opinion. You might as well have just read it on Wikipedia. Right.

But Gina's just upset because Shannon continues to bring her up and she doesn't understand why. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I watch Shannon on the screen. None of it makes any fucking sense. She makes no sense. Right? I have no idea where she's coming up. am concerned about her. I think there's something going on. Like, I don't think she's well mentally. I was actually thinking towards the end of it, I would want her off the show not because she's

not entertaining because she does crazy things like this. I just don't think it's good for her mental help. No, it really does seem to be. She needs to go figure something out and get off the camera for a while. Hey, go take care of yourself, but you don't seem well. And I get the next scene, it's her and John. And he's awkwardly, I don't know if he was scratching her back or massaging. She's not enjoying it. She's awkward. It's such a strange scene. Tamara comes over. He bolts. She's like, oh my God, you spent the night. The fact that it's three years in and Tamara's that excited about him staying over for the night, huge red flag. There's so many red flags across the board and you bring them up constantly. Of course your friends are going to be concerned.

It's just, it's crazy to me. But even in this scene with Tamara, she, first of all, I don't understand why she's so pissed at Heather, but not pissed at Tamara because both of them have at the same conversations behind the scenes, right? And Tamara, you could argue, is more of the aggressor than Heather, because Tamara's the one that brings it up a little stank to it. Heather, to her credit, when they did the cutscenes of her talking about it prior, she did try to, like, no, no, no, I haven't heard anything. None of no, I didn't talk about it.

Like, she tried to defend Shannon a little bit. Tamara has been gung-ho the whole time. Yeah. Shannon's cool with Tamara? It's a way different vibe. When Tamara talks about it, it's almost like she's like a dog with a bone. She's got a little bit of dirt, and she really wants to run around with it. And I think that's, she even brought up the fucking podcast a little bit later.

I think that's what she does now. I think that she loves it. I hated that. You know, I've got that podcast with Petty Melikette. Like, shut up. No shit. Do it for you. No, I think that what she did in that, like, the way that she talks about Shannon's life

and her life with John, it seems like she wants more dirt. She just wants to accumulate more and more information so that she has it and she can use it when she wants to. Whether that's on the podcast or show. Heather's just talking about it like very matter of fact. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I heard this and this is just kind of like what's going on. There's never really, I don't want to say there's not like there's, I don't know

if there's an agenda or I think her agenda is just being in the know it doesn't seem directly pointed no and I think that all of the women on this show and this is maybe one of the problems of it they all need to know they're all on a need to know basis they all use the information differently Heather just seems like she likes to know what's going on around her and then maybe she might spill it here or there I'm getting to the point now where maybe Shannon needed something like this. Maybe Shannon needed other women over there talking about your relationship because it's a weird relationship. It's just, it's bizarre. It makes no sense. He's clearly not involved. He doesn't want to do anything. You want to get married. It doesn't seem like

he does. This is the first time he slept over. Yeah, he refuses to talk about it. Yeah, he refuses to talk about it. They're saying that he loves the limelight, but he doesn't love the limelight. Like, there's just a lot of question marks around there. And I don't really understand it. I think that Chatton may have needed something like this because, yes, one, it threw her into some weird, like, manic phase where now she's just forgetting things. talking about things and spewing lies about other people and two she's at least starting to maybe wise up to a little bit of it like maybe that's what's going on even though she's not talking about it you can tell with her interactions with john that at least she's asking some questions

she's kind of pushing a little yeah last episode she sat down with them and brought up the things that were being said and then kind of stared at him to see what his response was no people do that but he didn't say anything but people do that and i think that's kind of what she was doing i think She's, like, poking and prodding just to see what his reaction is for things. But at the end of the day, she's too afraid to leave him because she doesn't want to be alone. But when he- That's really what it comes down to. Or, sorry, when she is talking to Tamara and, like, lists the things going on in their relationship.

First of all, if you have to constantly say this line, it's the same problems that everybody has in their relationship. Yeah. If you have to say that every single time you're discussing your relationship, guess what? Most people that are in happy relationships, when they discuss their relationship, it's about happy things. And we're not paralyzed by arguments. Right. But she keeps saying that. And she's like, we've gone to therapy.

No, you didn't. Like, that was the biggest, like, clearly she was lying. She's like, have you gone to therapy? She said, have you guys gone to therapy together? She's like, yeah. She says, yeah, yeah, we have. No, you haven't. She says, he won't talk about marriage.

He won't talk about their future. He won't talk about anything. And you want to defend them. And she always says, like, I've never been more in love in my whole life. It sounds like a very toxic situation to me. But speaking. of toxic situations we get jenn and ryan working out together he is the biggest like we can label certain guys on the show i think ralph's the biggest asshole i think that ryan's the biggest

douchebag on bravo i think he is there it is it is it is tough it's gonna be really tough for anybody to dethrone him bro it's like it's painful there why does he get a confessional i don't know i was with that tight buttoned-up suit oh my god but in the ryan confessional you know all he does is compliment her looks. He says, look good, feel good, which is the line look good, feel good, play good, you play good, you get paid good, you get paid good, you got a made good, whatever.

But he says, look good, feel good. She's a 12 out of 10. That's what you're interested in, not she's a wonderful mother. She fosters children. She's an inspiration. She does all these amazing things. She's a 12 out of 10, dude. Love to have her on my side, show her off as a trophy wife.

That's exactly what it. It's not even the trophy wife thing. I think what it is, is he is now being associated with good-looking women. So when he's walking around with a good-looking woman, maybe other women want a piece. Maybe other women are like, wow, he pulled a really good-looking older woman. I'm about her age. Maybe I could have a little chance there. There you go.

Ryan's now in. Like, I think that's kind of what he's doing. And even when she's trying to make it a little bit more serious, he can't even stop to make it a little bit more serious. Like, you should be able to sense, okay, this is somebody that you're now talking about marriage with. And you're not going to have a serious conversation with her? You're going to throw in boobies? I couldn't. I was physically mad.

As you know, I get. But when he said that she's talking about, she brings up very reasonable, rational reasons or not wanting to get married, why she's a little hesitant to keep moving forward, you stepped out of me when we're on a break. He's like, well, technically speaking, we were on a break. Like, I didn't step out on you.

That wasn't what happened. Look, she's telling me. you how that affected her. Whether your statement on it is you are on a break, it shouldn't matter, is irrelevant. Because she will feel this way regardless, which means you as somebody that wants to marry her, needs to address this to be able to move forward amicably and as a couple and as a supportive couple. That's how it works.

If you are going to deflect and say, I want to be with you forever, you and M. Boobies. You know, I'm going to say this. I wish I could watch this show at like 1.5 times of speed. Oh, I agree. Spending 45 minutes on this show kills me. Yeah, I know. I know, especially with Ryan. It's just like, there's so many things that you can skip past.

It's just like, you can tell as soon as a scene starts, I want nothing to do with this scene. I really, this one really pissed me. I just do not, like, that pissed me off. And he just like all those therapy words. The only scene so far for what we've gotten through this episode that I actually enjoyed was Emily shopping for a buyer cycle. The rest of them, I'm like, I don't need this. Boop Boopoo. I really, I really would skip.

I did not need the just me, you, me and those. boobies. Yeah, no. Because it just shows you how immature he is, and it shows you that he's not ready for marriage. It shows you that he is going to step out again. And I firmly believe that. Even when he's talking to the jeweler. And he gets the stone and he looks at the guy and he goes, did you ever think

that a guy like me would settle down? It's like, no. No. Because, I mean, are you? Yeah. Like, you could tell. You guys took a four week break and you fucked somebody else. That's not normal.

Like, you're not supposed to go on a break with the intention of banging other people. The break is to give each other space to breathe and process, not be like, oh, leash is off for the week. Going to go get me some strange. He's been watching. He probably watched Todd's movie a little too many times. If you watch the pass, Ryan. Come on, man.

Don Peacock. I'm not it. Plug. No, no free ads. Moving on, we're with Tamara and Eddie. They're working out. And I think it's interesting that Tamara owned a gym, but can't balance on a Bosu ball,

but that's neither here nor there. I had to point that out. Nice. Petty. I love it. Petty LaBelle when it comes to Tamara. But. This is where it's interesting to me because she always and will always and forever take the stance of I'm never wrong. I'm always in the right.

I'm always in support of other people. I don't drag anybody because she's like, I had lunch with Heather and Emily and she says all they were trying to do was bully Shannon. Like when you look back at how you've discussed Shannon's relationship, you have been very rude about it. You have not been a supporter friend. You are talking shit behind her back. Why do you, like this is just her to a T. No pun intended, two T's. But she's just not a good person.

Like inherently, deep down in her soul, she's just rude. She doesn't care about other people with her feelings. She wants to spin narratives to make herself come out on top every single time. We watch this. This is why I get so confused. And when she commented on our video defending herself and lying again, we watch. We have to watch. We are forced to watch you every week.

We do not want to. We've made that very clear. We don't like this show. We watch it every week. We watch you do these things, say these things. It's recorded on films. How can you possibly take the stance that you're not doing this stuff? It's crazy.

It's actually crazy. It's insanity. I don't get it. But, God, I didn't want to get this riled up today. But she brings up the Terry and Heather cheating rumor, and we get that ridiculous picture of Terry and Heather posing clearly. There is not. I don't give a shit. There's not paparazzi in Disneyland, Disney World.

Any theme park ever. No. And by the way. Especially not for Heather DeBron's what I'm saying. That's the biggest. Or Terry. Maybe they were there for Terry. I might believe that a little bit more.

The one thing I will give credit to Tamara here, and this is a rare opportunity to give Tamara credit, but she even says that. She's like, it's Terry and Heather Dupro. It's not Angelina Joe Lee. It's not some crazy celebrity where they're like, oh, look, they went to Disney World. No one, nobody cares you there. A couple of people are going to pick you out in the crowd. I'm like, oh, my God, that's Heather Dubrow from Housewise.

That's it. No paparazzi. Clearly a staged photo, but we get Heather and Shannon, and we bring up the vault once again. We have to talk about the vault. I don't know why we need to keep saying vault, but here we are at the vault. It was funny when Heather goes, she gives the combo out to everybody, which is true. But this is where I wrote down. Shannon always compares a relationship issues to everyone else's.

It's no one's business, but you bring it up. You always say it's nobody else's business, but you bring it up, and you have no issue talking about other people's business. Not only that, but yeah, she actively brings up her own marital issues, if you want to call them that. That's basically what it is. You call people and talk about your personal details about, your relationship just because you don't remember it doesn't mean you don't do it that's what you can't be it just seems like at the end of the day she's upset with herself like i i i went through so many different things where i'm like maybe this is a cry for help and she realizes it's a bad

situation she's hoping that somebody's going to call her out and start her down this path and then they're going to actually have a real conversation with john or not and you're going to break up maybe i kind of went through that for a little bit then i went into this whole denial phase where she just seems like she's forgetting all the weird things that she's told other people and just making excuses for it constantly and now she's actively going after other people it just there's no like pattern here at all it's just like erratic and she says to heather like i need space i need space i'm really upset you really hurt my feelings it's like well why do you not need space from tamara that that's that's illogical that makes no sense she's doing the same thing if not worse

heather's just and that's the other thing you keep wanting to be the victim i'm so upset everyone everyone's hurt my feelings everybody's slighted me everybody is being mean to me poor poor shannon you're the one reaching out to these people you're the one pushing this fucking narrative you're the one that they're trying to support they're not even talking shit now all of the conversations behind the scenes are do you guys think that they're okay this doesn't seem like a good situation i'm worried about Shannon that's why they're talking about it and you're too far up your own ass to see that these people care about you for some mind-blowing reason i don't know why they care you've been nothing but rude it's just so

hard to figure out where she's coming from. And like, that's what we have to try to do. And it's impossible. It's an impossible task to try to figure out and just nail down exactly where she's coming from. You're usually pretty good at it. We are. Even if it's a bat shit crazy reason, we can try to figure it out. There's

just nothing here. She's done so many different things over the last couple episodes. There's no way to track where she's going with this. I've got nothing. I've got no inkling. I don't know. I do not know. It's not for lack of not caring. I know that, you know, you might be able to think that because we don't give a shit and we hate this show. We still care. But we still care, mostly because, you know what?

More than anything, we like being right. One, and two, we care because you care. Yeah. And we love you. We also really like being right. Yeah, that's the biggest one. But we also care about you. This is where we get the Teddy plug, the Teddy and Tamara little drop in that they have a podcast.

No shit, guys. Teddy points out that the paparazzi doesn't go to Disneyland, which fair point, Teddy. I agree with you there. But we get to the pumpkin pack. and we're just going to jump right to the pumpkin carving because everything that was addressed prior gets brought up at the table. First off, they're all terrible pumpkin carver.

Second off, the butthole joke got dragged for way too long. We get it. Ha-ha, butthole. Ha-ha. Stop talking about it. Again, that's probably just a me thing. No, that's okay.

Okay, cool. But that's when the CPS talk comes up. And this is where I thought I was losing my mind because this is my full-blown, like, wow, Shannon needs help moment. Right. Because Jen brings it up and they're talking, I forget actually who brings it up,

but somebody brings up the fact that at this dinner, when they were all supposed to be at the Fiesta Party, Shannon was talking about how the DUI and everything and she was about to get arrested with her kids, they would have had to go into child protective services, which paints a very bad picture no matter what. If it's true or if it's untrue, you cannot say that. You can't say that in public,

especially when it's not true. Because now people are going to question it regardless because that's what people do. They hear one thing and they run with it. At no point was Child Protective Service is going to get involved. At no point was she going to get arrested. At no point where the kid's going to be taken away. So if you'd even put that out in the universe, is really, really shitty.

And instead of in that moment, first of all, Jen was there. Tamara was there. Before Tamara got to the pumpkin patch, she discussed it in the car in transit there. But when she is confronted with it, she goes, oh, I don't remember that at all. I don't remember even kind of saying. One of that, she's actually doubled down since the episode has aired on Twitter and said that she had no idea, and she never said that. But that's crazy. Yeah, because again, there's cameras.

We watch you do it. You're fucking liar. You watched yourself do it. I know. If you're doing this timing-wise and you're tweeting that out after the episode airs, presumably you watched the episode. It doesn't make sense. So you know that we watched you talk about it. We're seeing you at the dinner, bro.

Like, we're watching you at the dinner. Shannon says, God strike me dead if I did say that. God strike me dead. Jen was there and also for Jen to pull this out of her ass and make up this story. I guess we just proved that there's no God. Yeah. There you go. Way to go, Tamara.

You ruined a lot of people's lives. She says that Shannon, or sorry, she says that Jen Googled it. She must have Googled it. Must have Googled it. What are you talking about? For her to come up with this convoluted of the story would be your level of crazy, Shannon. What exactly do you think Shannon thinks that she Googled? Like, what did she reference?

I don't know. Did Jen Google what Shannon said about, like, and that's not how Google works. Google, Gina's DUI and then the CPS story? Imagine if Google gets to a point where, like, I could type in what did Steele say to a different person and it'll just tell me what you said to them? Oh, God. I really hope that doesn't happen. I don't want to be alive. No.

Much longer if that's where we're going. A few weeks, honestly. But I'm glad that Jen called out Tamara in her confessional, at least. I wish she called out of the table. But once again, and we've kind of gotten away from this story. storyline, but we see that Tamara, who is allegedly friends with Jen prior to the show, but then went on our TikTok and commented on our TikTok that she didn't even know Jen prior to the show, really.

They were just kind of acquaintances, which is crazy, because before, when you're talking about it in the season, you've known her for years, she went to the gym, you knew her and Ryan, you helped them get together. I don't know. I'm running out of breath. It's just ridiculous at this point because everybody's kind of got their own thing that they have issues with. Gina is just trying to figure out why Shannon brought up the CPS, which is a damning statement

to make and trying to give her shit for it. Shannon's acting like she never said it. She has no recollection of saying it. Tamara's not backing up anybody. She's just kind of plausible deniability. I didn't hear her say that. I didn't hear her say that. You did. And then you talked about it. So, okay, see you later, Tamara. And then Shannon is just going absolutely crazy over her in corner. Heather's talking about paparazzi and going to Disneyland. And then also talking about how Shannon and John and I guess they kind of squashed that whole thing. There's just nobody's really

connecting in any shape. No, nobody seems to understand where the other person. No, and to be fair, Gina's the only one who has like clear intentions in this entire thing. She's just trying to figure out why the fuck you would bring up the CPS for her DUI. It doesn't make any sense. Don't drag Gina. She had a DUI. Just be like, yeah,

I helped you get out of it. Cool. All right, great. Done. Boom. Then when people want to give you. The rest of it just doesn't make any sense. And that's why, that's where I stop. And I'm like, why are we watching this? Why is this TV? I don't know, but that's where, like, to give merit to Shannon talking shit about Gina, there's backup evidence. Like, yeah, it's like when you said that Travis has a dick this big. She's like, don't do that. Don't bring that up. It's like, no, that's evidence, you idiot. Like, that's what you do to corroborate another story. You bring up past experiences in which

you did the same thing. You called out Trevor's Dick. And then I love Jen gets a big point for me here because she's like, Ryan sent dick pics of the whole world. Everyone's seen his dick. You know how big it is. Like, that was funny. Give her credit there. But that's pretty much it for this one. I will say, while I've been defending Gina this entire episode, her rehab comment at the end fucking sucked. That wasn't cool. Yeah.

You can't just throw that out there and act like because she's going through a lot. It makes it appear as though people that need to go to rehab or lesser than or below you or beneath you. And fuck you for that. Hated that comment. But other than that, I don't know why CPS got brought into it. I don't know why this is continuing a storyline. I don't know why a lot of these storylines have been storylines for as long as well. long as they have. I'm tired of it.

I'm over the show. People like the show though. People like the season and people are going to like this episode too because there was a lot of drama. It just, I think a really good way to put it. It's like you said, there doesn't seem to be connections between the women. Like when they're fighting it out at the table, when no one's leaning on another one. No one's like got their arm around one. Like I got your back girl. Like yeah, they're kind of going to bat for Gina, but they're not really that involved. Like none of them are truly friends. Like there's no backup. There's no actual connection friendship-wise. Even when they talk, like, they sit at the table and they talk behind each other's backs and they're like whispering to each other.

It's not even in like a friend's like inside joke way. It's just weird and sometimes malicious. It's not enjoyable. Look, I'm not going to chime in on what other people enjoy as far as TV goes. I'm just making my point very clear that I need this season to be over because I'm done with it. I think we're getting close. It was like episode 12. If Atlanta had 16, maybe we got like four more weeks of this.

I don't know. We'll find out. but we'll keep watching it for all of you. That's how much we love you. Like, I don't hate this show as much as Shooter does, but we'll continue to watch. But that takes us to the question portion of the show. And we've got questions regarding Atlanta and OC, it seems like.

So we'll do two or three from each. Ready? Yep. oh i like this one from max june who would win in a wrestling match the brabros are three main southern charm guys we'd kick the shit out of them yeah with three of them why do they get three doesn't really matter they would need three they would need to i will take out yeah i like my myself up against those the new guys the new guys coming in there they might shake things up a little bit we have to see how they're no no i got them i think they're talking about chef austin and craig i imagine yeah we can handle that

I hope they hear, let's do a little. Love wrestling? Let's do a little. Baby oil? Day of my jelly? Don't threaten me with a good time. Hey, no. Hey, yo.

From. Blue. Is Lou here? Blue. Oh, Blue. You're my boy, but I thought you said, hey, Lou. It's like my dog down here. From Muscles by Mayo.

Interesting name. Is it Mayo or Mayo? That's like a play on words, though. Is it Muscles by mayonnaise? Or is your name Mayo or Maya? I hope it's mayonnaise. That would be like if you have a, a guy's a plan on just.

Mayo, yeah, like a Will Levis, who loves Mayo. When is Shannon getting the boot been over her for the last five seasons? I think for her own mental health, she just needs to go away. Yeah, maybe just step away, I don't know. From Felicia Ale Greenie, do you think Bravo will begin a clean sweep phase for the Housewives franchise? I think it depends on what they do with Atlanta. And how it goes. Yeah, I mean.

I think they're going to try. It makes the most sense to meet. They do need to tweak most of them. You're kind of seeing them do that. Rony reboot, Salt Lake, who the hell knows what's going to happen there? I don't think that's really important to do. But I think Atlanta's going to be a huge one. And then Jersey, if this season once again is just brutal, they're going to have to get rid of it.

They're going to have to change it up. They're going to have to fix it. But I don't know, time will tell once again from Joanne Beach. Was the pumpkin talk a bit much and the dick size talk? They have kids. Nah. No, I'm okay with it. I don't really, I thought it was actually

that was one of the few moments I enjoyed in the show. I thought that was funny, especially with Jen coming in with everyone seeing Ryan's Dick. I think it's funny. Yeah. But Dick humor is always funny to us.

Yeah, it always gets a laugh here. Dick and fart jokes. Now, let's do two more. Oh, I'll end with that one. I like that one. Oh, from Chris Mandela. Why are you so hard on Kennell? I'll tell you why, Chris.

I'll take this one and I'll tell you why right now. I think that everything she does is for her image. I don't think that the only genuine Kenya we get is her scenes with her daughter. And while those scenes are great and I have given her credit for those scenes, I think that every other scene is just her trying to promote herself, trying to put out an image of who she is that isn't actually her. I don't like how she treats other people. I thought her treatment of Courtney, regardless of who Courtney turned out to be,

at the end of the season was really rude and really mean and unnecessary. I just, also my big issue is that she seems to think that she is the biggest celebrity on earth. And while a lot of people corrected me last week that she was a big star in the 90s, great, credit or credits do.

That's not 2023. So I just, I think it's interesting that she takes that stance. That's why I'm so hard on Kenya. It bugs me and that's also our job. Yeah, I agree. So the last one, and this is a great one, and this is a free plug.

From M.M.A. Abbott. I thought that was M.M. Abbott, 1230. Thoughts on the Kelsey Dock trailer. Can we get a special episode? How do we do that in a heartbeat? We might do that. Yeah. Yeah, maybe we will. We'll do a, like, oh, maybe we will. I like that. I don't know what the format is. I assume there was a series. They followed them around for the entire season. From last year, right?

Yeah. I'd imagine it's a six episode. I hope so. I want as much as that as I can get. Yeah, just give me, this isn't like an ultimate girl's trip type of situation. Give me like 12 episodes. No, it's like a welcome to Rex and give me 25 episodes of this show. Yeah, every week. Every single one. Every week of the season.

Yeah. Oh, that would be really nice leading up to like the Super Bowl, knock on wood. I wouldn't watch those. Gobert. No, no, leading up to this year's Super Bowl. Sorry, I don't want to watch last year's. Yeah, no, no. I had to watch quarterback, that documentary, and I had to watch the last episode, and I was genuinely sad.

I rewatched the Super Bowl recently. Why? I like sadness. Yeah, gross. But that does it for us. Remember to follow us in all of our socials at Rob underscore Bros. Subscribe to our YouTube channel at Rob Bros. Podcast.

And you got anything else? No. All right. Well, everyone have a wonderful weekend. Have a great Labor Day. Great. Oh, yeah, it is Labor Day. Have a great.

Oh, summer. It's my birthday next week. Happy birthday, Steel. I always forget. My birthday doesn't matter. Go, birds. See you's next week. Bye.

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