Bros & Shows - Greek Easter Gone Wrong (RHOSLC Full Review)

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Whats up Bro's? We got a RHOSLC review for you today coming from a sick Steel and a sad Shooter since the Phillies just got spanked by the Diamondbacks... but that's neither here nor there! In this weeks episode, we dive into our rose and thorn before we recap Salt Lake. Its Greek Easter in Utah and we're seeing a lot of fractures amongst the group. Angie is throwing a party for everyone and invites Monica despite her repeating the rumor about her husband. Meanwhile Meredith gets snubbed from the invite list. Mary finds out that her son (who lives with her) has been married for over a year in a very bizarre conversation. At Greek Easter, Angie K pulls Monica aside to talk about the rumor. While Monica took it too far by telling not only Angie about the rumor but also Lisa and other members of the group, Angie seems to place all of the blame on Monica for the rumor and all Monica did was relay it. Its a classic Meredith move as well, reference a rumor, don't say what it is, and let someone else drop the bomb. Shit hits the fan when Monicas mom, Linda, LD for short... interjects in one of the weirder moves we've seen on a housewives show. She attempts to play referee and instead of staying neutral or taking Monica's side, she takes Angie's side and subsequently embarrasses her daughter in front of the entire party. While some may feel that Monica shouldn't speak to her mom that way, what we saw was a narcissistic mother attempting to gaslight her own daughter to look better on TV. Time Stamps: Rose and Thorn (4:00) RHOSLC (9:30) This episode is sponsored by Manscaped. The ultimate body hair trimmer, The Lawnmower 4.0 is the easiest way to get rid of unwanted body hair. No more cuts while trimming, just an easy to use trimmer to leave you your most confident, best self! Use code BravBros at checkout to recieve 20% off plus FREE SHIPPING! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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everything sucks um really just really just everything sucks honestly it's just sadness all around really rough day i had to watch probably one of the most boring baseball games i've ever seen in my entire life that was the worst game of the season that what shooters referring to the Phillies just got embarrassed on national television playing the Diamondbacks. It was an atrocious game all around. The only run we scored was on a wild pitch. It was just bad baseball. It was not fun to watch. We're both depressed. I'm a shell of a human being. I am disgusting. I am so sick. I don't feel good. My head hurts. I'm feverish. And I was like, you know what? At the very least, I can watch my guys on TV, kick the crap out of the Diamondbacks, go 3 and O in the series, and then have a chance to win it all tomorrow. But no, no, well, they arguably made me feel worse. Sorry, win the NLCS, my bad. Yeah, I mean, I think I feel worse than my sickness is making me feel by watching that game.

That, watching that game made me sick. I'm not even going to lie. Watching that game made, it made me sick. Like, I am, I am now under the weather. And the worst part was I got home and I'm like, all right, what can I do to kind of cheer me up? oh there's an anime that I really like that comes out on Thursdays let me watch that I watched this episode and it was like

the worst cliffhanger maybe the main character dies maybe he doesn't and like the animas just don't follow fucking rules so the main character could be fucking dead and we'll never know so I gotta wait another fucking week and watching week by week for shows is one of the most gruesome things

ever we've gotten so engrossed in watching things and like I know we do it with Bravo Bravo is not like nearly is it's not scripted so it's not like a click hanger necessarily but i mean when we watch like game of thrones on hboh you watch it week by week and you're like fuck now i got to wait another week figure this out see what happens yeah i i thought watching this was just going to cheer me up and it just it just didn't it made it made things even worse so now here i am at least i'm not talking about fucking oc week one baby week one not talking about orange county

real happy happy town population me population steel and we're you know we're here we're here it's all look we it's gonna be a sad show no we're gonna pick up the vibes we're gonna change the vibes a little bit just because I'm dying and the Phillies stunk tonight does not mean we're going to be a bummer the whole time but to your point about watching shows week to week the pandemic ruined that because everyone was streaming entire season like they were just dropping material weekly and you could watch 15 episodes of a show without having to wait fast forward to now they're going back to like the weekly drops and it is gruesome i can't deal with it like i lose interests in shows now because i'm like i can't wait

and i the good thing with that is i end up at some point in like four months after the show is done i'll go back and like binge it but not intentionally i just forget about it because my brain is stupid And I forget the show airs week the week. And then I'm like, oh, yeah. And then I've got like 10 episodes. So that's nice. But I'm so gross. But let's jump into some Rosenthorn.

Maybe that'll cheer you up, pal. You want to go first? It's not going to. But this is the thing is I should be happy because I really didn't see anything that was thornworthy necessarily. People have been nice to us all week, which is great. There's a lot of positive. most part. So like I had to go picking as far as my my thorn was. And I'm not really sure how I don't

know if you miss this. I miss this. We all miss this. But my thorn is a review. And I read it like 20 minutes ago too. And even though we beat the Braves, it doesn't fucking matter because I'm still pissed off. But this one, this one gave us four stars. Great podcast. Only giving you four stars. because y'all fill these fans and i hate bryce harper go jalen and travis i'm not really sure about that one travis chelts and travis kelvin hurts and trailing hurts i guess jalen because he was well that's alabama that's not georgia i don't really know doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for me but uh brave fan who dat sucks to suck nay ray 6283 have fun yeah golf and all the off season but thanks for the four stars let we still love you but you know it's funny that we're reading this

Now, actually, wait a minute. This was actually posted the day after we clinched. So that really sucks. I'm really sorry. An angry review. That was an angry four star. I love an angry four star. That's so fucking funny.

And my rose, I actually already touched on this. We don't have to talk about OC today. Baby, I'm pumped. That's a great rose. I am so pumped. And look, I know that we only have to talk about Salt Lake today. So it is a little sad because we don't have two shows to mix it up and kind of like throw things around.

but as soon as I realize that we only have one show to talk about, why do we only have one show to talk about? It's because OC's dead. If there was ever a time to only have to do one show, it's tonight because I'm not kidding you. I feel like I'm dying slowly. But anyway, let's get to my Rose and Thorne. So my rose is this.

And I love when we, I hate to say it, but I love when we influence. And this is an influencer comment from Rosie Valdez 6130. You guys influenced me to watch Roney. I love it. thank you for your service love that love that you took our word and you gave it a shot he went in there unbiased and you enjoyed the show i wish more people took that route but people are going to still hold onto the og thing now that seems more like an industry that's like an

industry broad bros plug those her name was her name was rosy and it's talking about something that we've been talking about all season we didn't post that all right everybody before i did not i know we i know we try to convince people to put their tinfoil hats on all the time, but we didn't do it, all right? And look, this is the other thing. Actually, that should be my rose. My rose is my work gave me a ringlight. So now I'm all bright and shiny over here.

Oh, well, good for you. I've got six lamps in here because there's no overhead lights. Yeah, YouTube, one for you guys. My thorn is this, and it's confusing. And I don't know what this is in reference to, but it's from one of our YouTube videos. And it was the F off Andy, which is when we were talking about O.C.'s reunion. and it's from Char McShane, 3517.

And he says, just go knock on the door. Tell them who you are. And would they mind if you could see your old room? People actually do this. And amazingly, the new owners let them in. It all depends on how you present yourself. But I don't think you have the balls to do this. You definitely don't have the balls to do it.

To do what? To go to your childhood home and knock on the door. What's this in reference to? last Thursday we talked about you go yeah what do you mean oh your childhood home that you drove past i forget things almost instantly yeah so that's why i was confused first off buddy if you think i don't know the balls the next time i go to texas i'm literally going to go live on instagram now and knock on my old house i'd be like hey man which i did i did find out by the way i found out that the owner of that house up until recently was the head trainer at TCU which is kind of cool

horned frogs purple boys horn frog ooh but uh yeah that's my that was my thorn because i did not know what that was in reference to thank you for clearing it up but i didn't appreciate them assuming that i don't have the balls to go and check it out well for the love of god for the love of god please do not show up at that person's house and have your phone in your hands like you're record it because that is that's some cloud chasing weird tic-tochit that you will get shot for in Texas I'm sure um there yeah there's there's some there's some weird rules in Texas they you know if you're running away from a house they can still shoot you as the only the only states and you can do that where if you're running away from a home they can still shoot you in the back but uh is that

like the the mobile version of stand your ground yeah I can't think of anything clever to call right now but yeah turn and run turn and run that is also your ground he's still oh i got it he's still on your ground this is great you're sick you're sick i had like five beers watching the philly's game this is this is a great episode for the pro off to the races baby but let's jump right into some ross lick and i saw a lot of posts about this episode beforehand um in regards to monica and her mom, and I want to focus on that for the most part, so we're going to get there pretty quickly. But we start out with the Easter bunny invitations. Now, is it a cute idea? Sure. If a man sat in my car unannounced in a bunny costume, I would beat the shit out of that bunny.

There's no way I would react like Heather did. I would be panicked. And I would definitely- That bunny is there for one reason, and it's to kill me. yeah i figured that was yeah i figured that was kind of choreographed i don't think that was legit because how did they get into the car unless heather just leaves her car unlocked all the time which is crazy she looked genuinely scared i think heather's a pretty good actor well hold on stop me if you've heard this before did you know that angie was greek i did i had no fucking idea here we go a greek easter

everything that she does has to be greek i am i'm just tired of it I'm tired of it. I get it. We know you're Greek. I can read your last name, and I know you're Greek. I don't care anymore. Not everything that you have to do. And I get that there was some, like, little things towards the party itself that was Greek influenced.

But it was just over the top. It was over the top. It was Easter party. Here's my thing. All right. And I've commented on this before about, like, I think that for any housewife that wants to give, props to their culture where they came from i think it's a good premise right however when it's your only identity on the show i think is where it runs a little dry and that's what like when they

the mom linda gives her dad a kiss and does like the cheek cheek kiss she's like oh she knows the greek kiss i'm like no that's a very very general hello for multiple cultures and i think her dad said that too so maybe it's not even angie's fault maybe angie's dad just turned everything into Greek. Just like everything you do. Hey, fancy Greek dinner over here and it's just like pasta. It's like, well, you know. Anyway, let's get back to it. Oh, God. Ew. Yeah, I know. I'm gross. But Whitney and Justin are going out to dinner. And I guess because we don't get that many scenes with them and when we do it's kind of face value, we don't really dive into the dynamic of their relationship but they don't seem to be doing great and like now the minute they sit down it's

really awkward and that might have been production cutting out a bunch of conversations but they seemingly don't talk till the drinks arrive but they start to dive into some issues that they're having and we do know that they have not been communicating well that is pretty upfront but when whitney explains her side of things i was like yeah that's pretty shitty because she was trying to get the kid she's still working full time right like she has a job she has multiple companies that she's running. Justin is just now back onto the workforce and she's talking about she's getting the kids ready for school. She's making them breakfast. The dog pisses on the couch. It's total mayam. The kids are fighting and instead of Justin helping out in that situation, he's just kind

of ignoring the whole thing and to the point where the bacon burns. And for me, it's like, dude, just get off the couch. Like, get off the couch. I'm sure that I feel like when Whitney tells stories there's it's not the whole story all the time but at the same time i can 100% see this being a scenario where he's just sitting there like scrolling on his phone while she is in a panic yeah no i i fully get that and honestly i feel like this scene was it was pretty tough it was pretty tough to watch overall yeah and we usually like when families spouses you know relationships they kind of get into the nitty gritty and open up a little bit to us not this time i didn't like at this time I usually do say like I want more I want more I want more this seemed way

too real and I think that I I really had to look inward on this to think maybe I do like the fake coupley dinners where they talk about their lives together because at least it's like all right this is kind of nice like this was way too real everything they were talking about I'm like that doesn't seem like a good relationship he hasn't ward his wedding ring in how long and it's just sitting in the door at first I thought it was like a throwaway like kind of like the habit thing where it was like oh yeah you know it really hurt me to see that you didn't have your wedding ring on and then she said yeah it hurts me every day to see your wedding ring in the drawer i'm like jesus christ what's going on here choice that's a choice

yeah like that's a full on choice and it i mean i don't know i don't think that a lot of news i mean we had some little bit of news about their relationship and how it was on the rocks and it's going to be kind of on display for this whole season but at the same time i i i don't really want to see that much of a real situation it was uncomfortable it really was and and i think well i think that for those types of situations too it can provide a little perspective because you get to see them do that on there and you kind of think like whoa this is this is actually reality tv this is probably what a lot of couples go through so at the same time you do have that hint of well this could be good for somebody who's struggling with the same thing like you get to watch two people on screen and

be like wow okay maybe i'm not alone i i don't know i was really trying to find the silver lining to this because i was that i was that uncomfortable well especially when it ends with she's like i feel like i go it alone and he just says don't well justin like for her to feel like she's not going it alone you have to make the effort to like be there for her and that's where like the sex thing gets called into question earlier and he's like you know i don't want to be the one to initiate sex. And she makes a really good point. It's like, if you want to have sex, I have to feel like I'm connected with you. And I don't feel that. And that's fair. Even in a marriage, it's not like sex is guaranteed. You still have to have a connection with one another.

So for him to be like, well, because she says it's not all about sex. He says, well, it is for me. And I'm like, what are you implying? Again, weird thing to say. And then you finish it with, don't, don't feel that way. Well, then give her a reason to not feel that way, Justin. like you're not coming out looking great here you're coming out looking like a neglectful dad you come out looking like a neglectful partner that weirdly doesn't wear his ring and from what she made it sound like he doesn't wear his ring when they get in a fight it's like they fight and then he takes that bitch off and doesn't wear it's like his trump card where it's like yeah we got to a fight so i took my wedding ring off to show you how mad i am and it's like well that's

kind of where you're going when you take a ring off are you going all he's Mormon so he's probably not going to the bar but like he's going somewhere without his wedding ring and that's it's just it's bad it's it's really bad it was it was really tough to watch and usually in those situations we kind of poke holes in it and say well you're embellishing here you're embellishing here it didn't seem like whitney was embellishing at all it was that's why it was she was making points and he's being you got to imagine that he's being incredibly ungrateful dude was unemployed for how long i know he had a non-compete so he gets paid but he does get paid during a non-compete that's how that works that's the trade-off that you get so it's

It's not like he wasn't bringing him money. So it sounds like he was just being a slub the whole time. And now he's back. He should be happy being back in full time, full time employed. And he's not. He's nervous about all that. And it seems like he's putting everything back on the back corner. It sounds to me like he, now that he's working full time,

he's assuming the role of like the traditional family where the husband goes to work, the wife takes care of the house and the kids. That's why I get from it. You think that's generational or you think that's Mormonism? I think you could argue it's both. Yeah, I could argue it's both for sure. But the next scene, we get Lisa and Angie candle making, and the only thing that happens to this scene is like the Meredith talk

and saying that Monica is just as liable for this as Meredith. And that's weird to me because for Lisa to imply that after she got taken down by Meredith last year, attempted to, Meredith's playing the same playbook. All Monica did was tell Anne. what the rumor was yeah which is what meredith wants meredith sets it up right she says there is a rumor and then somebody else drops the bomb so meredith can walk away clean lisa implies that they're both just as guilty which i do not think is true but i thought it was crazy that angie invites monica to the lunch but not meredith if they're on the same level like that that's a bizarre move i don't know

because I felt like Angie Angie wasn't necessarily I don't know she didn't really have the time to be grateful that the rumor was brought to light but at the end of the day like if we were to analyze things in a logical way Monica was talking to Whitney about it maybe Monica wanted to tell Angie about it

but she didn't want to do it alone and obviously there was a lot of shakiness going on there they wanted to take shots before they talked to Angie about this whole thing they wanted to make sure they were in a good safe space blah blah blah whatever I don't know I mean I think it seems like Angie wants to reconcile some sort of friendship with Monica, and she doesn't want that with Meredith.

So that's really what it comes down to where it's like I'm picking and choosing here, rather than not inviting both of them because I feel like they're both culpable, I'm going to invite Monica because I feel like I can smooth this over. And we don't really know the ins and outs of their relationship. We get a little bit of this and a little bit of that. Obviously, they came together more through the whole Jen Shaw thing. They feel like they can commiserate with that because they went through something similar. were betrayed by a friend, so on and so forth.

So maybe there is a little bit more there and they went through more than they're letting on at this point. But I do understand that part of it where I think that she wants to keep a friendship with Monica and not Meredith, which fully makes sense to me because Angie and Meredith have never vived. They never made any sense to me as friends. And that's okay. You're on the same show.

We talk about it all the time. I'd rather than not be friends on the same show than then to force some weird friendship and just break up and be friends and break up and be friends. It's annoying. So at least it's kind of real in that aspect. So I didn't see any issues with that, but I did think that Lisa was kind of spinning the wheels a little bit on Angie saying, well, you know, Monica is responsible for this. Exactly. Monica's responsible for this too. You know, I didn't hear anything. And yeah, Monica did go down a little deeper than she had to, but that just seems like who Monica is. And Lisa wanted to spin that into her new friend, Angie. And I'm wondering if this is what we're going to get from Lisa. Is Lisa going to shit stir the whole fucking season? Is that where she's going to go for this? Because I don't really want that. I want Lisa to be authentic. I'd rather her not take the role of it. shitster because it's going to blow up in her face i feel like what happened was last year lisa found her her identity a little bit when she got away from meredith for an entire season

was no longer like meredith lackey i feel like she got a voice and i feel like this season she's trying to make a statement and so every time she has the opportunity to do so she's going overboard with it and i agree i don't think it's the best look all the time and it's also this weird like there's this self-righteous era about it this year where she's better than everybody else and she knows better than everybody else and I don't care for that honestly it's not my favorite look now I like Lisa I think she's good for the show this is a different side than we've seen and it's it's not different in a way that we haven't seen glimpses of it it's way more in our face this time than it was in previous seasons so it's yeah curious how it's going

to play I don't think she's going to keep coming out of these things unscathed she's dodged a couple of bullets and fights, but I think it's going to come crashing down at some point. I think it has to, honestly. And I mean, she is clumsy at the end of the day. She doesn't think about everything. She's not as, you want to say, precise with her shitstirring. So I agree with you. I think that it is all going to come crashing down.

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we get a very weird scene with Mary and her son. Her son is exactly, exactly what I pictured. Like, if you asked me what Mary's son is like, I would have explained that man seeing on the couch. She asks him, there's a rumor going around that you're married. Are you married? And he doesn't really answer.

He goes, uh, maybe. What do you mean? Yes or no, buddy? This is a big question. Because by the way, like, if she has all of this church money and you're married and you get divorced that bride might be entitled to some of that estate like there's there's different things at play here that could potentially affect your whole family right so i think it's a weird move to not tell her one two they live in the same house the wife and the son

the wife and the husband son i can't talk man you can't talk all three of them live in the same house marry her son and the wife yes much good god but how How on earth do you live under the same roof and not know that? And then it comes to light. She's like, yeah, they live here, but I don't really see them. I'm so curious about this woman's life. Like, I can't get over it. Her house is massive.

Did you see that house? Yeah, it's incredible. Like, I couldn't believe it. So, like, how much money do they make from this church? I need a documentary about Mary's church. I need it so bad. You're focusing on the wrong things right now. You're going deeper in Barry instead of just what this scene was, which was her son is exactly like her.

Her son is exactly like her. He is aloof. He doesn't answer questions. He's straightforward sometimes and then just will stop talking randomly. It was so goofy to watch the two of them interact as mother and son. It made zero sense to me. And at the same time, it somehow made a lot of sense to me because it's exactly what I picture would have happened. It was the weirdest thing to see.

and he's laughing the whole time and then he finally says it and as soon as he says it we get Mary and then Mary's confessional talking about it and it's like well I kind of understand why he didn't want to tell you that this is what they were doing now I don't know I mean he's 20 years old he's just kind of doing shit on a wind

it seems like who the hell knows maybe they'll stay together forever and they'll be like the picturesque of love maybe who am I to say but at the same time I do understand why he didn't want to tell her because she had so many interactions her first thing was well you know he's going to have to live and learn and he needs to be smarter than this and he makes

mistakes. It's like, Jesus Christ, like maybe he wanted to marry this girl and he was afraid to get your blessing because you weren't going to give it. That's what I thought of right away. The one positive I'll take away from it is we see a side of Mary that we've never seen before. Like she is emotional. She breaks down a little bit and says like, I want you to be able to talk to me about anything. I was like, okay, like that's a normal parenting response. Like that was a real moment. And I did appreciate that from her because you don't get a lot of those. So to see her just be in touch with her emotions for a little bit was a nice reprieve for me. But moving on, we get Heather FaceTiming with her daughter.

And the only reason I'm bringing this up is because I am in the middle here. I'm stuck on the fence because Heather's big issue with Jack Barlow on this mission is that it goes against everything that she believes in for Lisa to send her kid off without knowing the ins and outs of what a mission entails. It's not so much, like, don't do it because I'm anti-Mormon now. It's more so I feel like it's my obligation to let her know, like, what this brings, like what he's going to do, that it's pretty much Mormon boot camp, that when he comes back, he's probably going to be a very different person than the Jack you're sending away. And for a family that's clearly not devout, like, if we go through the things, like, later,

when Lisa is talking to Heather at the party, she's like, I would wear this to church, and I would do this, and I own a tequila company, blah, blah, blah. It's like, yeah, well, you're not really a Mormon. You're not following the Mormon faith to a T, which is a very different experience with Mormonism. That's like what's highlighted by Heather. She's like, yeah, if that was the Mormon church, I would have a very different impression of it. But that's not the Mormon church. And we know enough now by watching this show.

And me, I love Mormon documentaries. I think they're so interesting. So when you're talking about the Church of Latter-day Saints, it is a very, very over- overpowering culture. So I think for Heather to want to tell her friend, hey, just be aware of X, Y, and Z is not inappropriate, but at the same time, I understand that's Lisa's son. It's their relationship.

Is it really her place to step in? No, it isn't. But I think that we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. It was during the, I don't know if it was the ski party or the, no, it was Heather's party. It was her snow party, whatever the hell that was. the snowballs. We talked about Heather, maybe you don't butt your head in here. Maybe you don't push your agenda of the Mormon church onto somebody else. But as soon as she started talking to

her daughter, it seems like her daughter knows Jack pretty well. It seems like they were classmates. They may be around in the same circles. Who the hell knows? But as soon as she told her daughter, her daughter had a genuine reaction like, oh, that doesn't seem like something he would do, which makes me think. And going back to the scene where Lisa has to talk to the, the, the, the candle maker and find out that the candle girl knew more than she did and knew earlier than she did. So there's a lot going on here. It makes me think that Jack's doing this to spurn the family.

He wants to go do this because he wants to get away from the family. I think what Heather's trying to say, and maybe she's just not articulating it well enough that we can really understand this. But if I want to put my own thoughts into this, I think Heather is trying to come from a place of this isn't something you do to try to spurn your family. This isn't something you do to get away from your family. this is a serious thing. If you're going to go over and go on a mission trip for the Mormon Church,

you're going to be the Mormon Church. You're going to be further into the Mormon Church. You're going to be indebted to them. You're going to be further into their culture. There's going to be a lot more going on here. This isn't some rebellious teenage thing that you do to get away from your mom, which everything that Jack has done, everything that Lisa has told us about what Jack has done and not telling her about this,

it seems like he's rebelling against his parents. He doesn't want to talk about it. He's going to go do this. Now, whether there's a friend that convinced him, whatever, but you get so much in just that little reaction from Heather's daughter saying, it doesn't seem like something the Jack would do. That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me. So that's what I think Heather is coming from.

I think Heather's saying, I don't know how to tell Lisa this. I don't know how to go to Lisa and say, look, like, he's doing this to rebel against you and it's going to get him further into the church. And like you just said, Lisa's not really following the church to a T. So there might be some issues moving down the line. you might just want to be careful maybe it's just not the right move and look i get it you know again i still do agree heather should not push her agenda it's not her life it's not her family don't do it but i think she wants to come from a place of friendship and maybe some advice and when you have a book

called being like i'm a bad Mormon and you have your whole life going on here it's hard to come across that way and i don't i don't think she knows what to do i think she just needs to take a step back and just let this happen because there's nothing you can really do yeah i i agree and it's a tough situation but i think you're right i think it's a rebellious teen thing which again is a crazy move to rebel and be like i'm going on a mission for two years and yeah i saw a clip of lisa dropping them off at the airport like on instagram so i think he's there i think he's gone so he's on this mission now so i'm curious what we're going to get in two years when he comes home because there's no contact really like when they're gone on these missions

they are gone for two years straight like there's no They don't come home. You don't see them for two years. So I don't know. We'll find out. But let's jump right to the Greek Easter. And Mary backs out, which is the least surprising thing ever. And here's where I do have an issue.

And she was talking with Meredith at her house before the party. And she's like, I don't want to get involved in the monotony and this. And that's like, look, you may not want to, but that's what being a housewife is. Okay. At the end of the day, like I know you. Yeah. But it doesn't matter. Like if you want to, again, I don't need her to take center stage, but you have to be there.

Like, you've got to be present. And I don't think that Andy's happy with her this season. Like, there's a lot of, especially after that bizarre watch what happens live or she body shamed somebody. Oh, she body shamed Heather. It was awful. And, like, Heather looks great in the corset. And she wants to say, like, I didn't know that Gucci made like a size 14. It's like, dude, shut up.

Like, that is such a brutal thing to say. Heather looks great. Leave her alone. I'm not getting enough out of merit. right now and like I was on board with like her little clips here and there they were funny but to just bow out because you had a flood in your house a year ago is fucking nuts like that's brutal like show up no that's not why she was bailing out she was bailing out because she didn't want to go she said i'm well aware she just made it yeah she made an excuse angie knew that though

you could tell from angie's reaction like whoa wow okay weird everybody knows that mary's gonna bail out of this and the other thing that mary said on watch what happens live to andy is i came back because you needed me to save your show. Right. She's not saving the show. She's just kind of taking a place of like comedic relief in some way. And that's really all she's giving. And I'm looking at it from just an entertainment value.

I still don't really care. I do not care. I don't need her there all the time. I need her there sometimes. The show is good. If we leave Mary out of this, the show is fine. I have no issues with the show at all yet. Maybe the end of the season gets a little weird.

We don't know. I don't want to speak too soon. But for what it is, I'm okay with what Mary's doing. I just don't think she gives a shit. I think that she knows. I'm in a friend of role. I'm not in a housewife role. You can't tell me what to do.

You can't tell me which events to show up for and which not to show up for. In the moment, she's probably thinking, I went on the trip to Palm Springs. I had a scene with my son about whether or not he's married. I did this. I did a little bit of that. That's enough for me. I don't need to go to all these things. That's Mary.

That is Mary to a T. And she does not want to. go any further than this so she's going to pick and choose her things i don't need her to show up anymore because what we're going to get is what we got last week at the ski a pre thing where she walks in and goes whoa this is crazy what's going on over here oh wow there's a lot of drama over there like i don't give a shit she goes over there and says nothing and then she makes one little quip to heather and it's like okay like it's whatever i don't need her there all the time i really don't she's fine she really is where she is but yeah everybody knows she

she's lying as soon as if angie knows that you're lying right away and that's a reaction then everybody knows you'll well yeah i didn't believe her for the record i was just saying you'll you were looking it up you were like we're floods in los vegas i was saying that it was like a wacky excuse like you know flood a year ago and now you have to go like the day of the party you're like oh i got to go check it out i think that's the level of which she doesn't give a shit is that she will throw away some weird flood excuse and just be like yeah okay the best part she's like i genuinely when they feel bad. She's like, well, it's good you have feelings. I love that. Mary laughed at that. No, I do feel

bad. And Mary laughed at that too. I know. I do not know. I can't get a read on her. But yeah, I did appreciate the background of Andy, Andy, geez, Angie's father that he moved to the U.S. and he was a widower at 44. So, you know, I like getting the backstory there. It was, it was sweet to see like, you know, he worked his ass off for his family. That stuff's always cool. And I loved, loved Sean's retort to Heather when she's like, oh, where did you get your clothes custom fit? And he's like, oh, for my gay boyfriend.

I was like, that's funny. That's a funny comeback. I don't know. I didn't think it was funny. I thought he was forcing that. I really, I really thought he was forcing that. I think it was premeditated. I think he was going to say it no matter who said anything about his clothing or poor or anything.

I think he was ready for it. that that was his one little one liner for the night and he was done and that's exactly what he was going to do it's you thought it was funny i agree with you 100% that was i'm not so sure that the rumor i'm not so sure the rumor is not untrue wait that's a very not true way to say it i'm not so sure that the rumor is not true yeah not untrue but when he says that it doesn't like doesn't tell me that it's true or not it's just you know i think i just thought it was funny I thought it was funny. I think you're sick, and I think your level of what humor is is a little low right now,

and that's okay. If you need some, you need some joy, you need some happiness, and you found some happiness in Sean's little quip, I'm going to give that to you. I did, so leave me alone. But everyone gets there, and I just wrote down, L.D. comes in hot, and that's Monica's mom, L.D., which I don't know that we called her L.D., but LB. I guess it stands for Linda.

Linda. Linda. That was my thought. That was my thought immediately. I don't know what her last name is. I'm assuming it starts to the D. No idea, but I really hope. I hope it's Linda.

Lindda, L-I-N-S-D-H, D-U-H, Lynn, duh. But she comes in really hot and, like, oh, are you single? Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I, look, I don't like Linda. I think Linda is two-faced and shit. Now, we're going to get into it in a second. We'll get into it. Just hold on.

Just because I do want to address Angie's speech about Jesus was wild. And I think Heather's right. I think in that moment she's comparing herself to Jesus Christ. I was like, oh, my. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. She's comparing herself to the Greek Jesus Christ. Let's get that. Greek Jesus.

Yeah, the Greek Jesus. But she like arguably mansplains the resurrection of Jesus and then says, if he can rise above so can we wait a minute this man was crucified buried in a cave behind a rock and came back to life three days later and for you the metaphor is we can all rise above everything it's like it's a very different thing you weren't crucified and stuck in a cave i think could you i think she would have been okay if she didn't go into weird details of jesus Jesus is, you know, crucifixion and pretty much draw comparisons to herself for like five to ten minutes. She didn't have to do that.

She did not have to do any of that. I wonder how long it actually went. I'm sure it was way longer than what he saw for sure. Oh, it happened. She is not a very good public speaker. But at the very end of it, I think if she just kept it very short, did not compare herself to Jesus. And then at the end said, you know what? If he can rise above all the hate that he was getting in his life and still come back and make sure that, you know, humanity's good, I think that we can all learn a less.

and rise above it if she just did that and kept everything else short i think it would have been okay you know obviously not the best speech of all time but still would have been okay it's just the fact that she was so clearly comparing herself to jesus she's a martyr but i i think that's the mo of angie is she's trying to do the most at all times to be iconic she's like i'm going to give this great speech instead of being like okay you've said enough you're going to keep going to try to make this an iconic heart wrenching speech wherever everyone's like, oh, my God, that was so profound. Thank you so much, Angie, for sharing your wisdom. But we get a double conversation. One is with Heather and Lisa Barlow. The other one is

Angie and Monica. Heather's asking why Lisa's triggered about that whole thing that happened with Angie and Whitney, where Angie was upset with Heather for saying what she said. And Lisa takes it upon herself to be like, well, that really triggers me. Because where was that energy for me all of last year when I was getting crucified for everything that I was doing and all the rumors about me? And she turned that entire scene about her. And Heather's like had no idea that there was a dark cloud, as she calls it, following them around. She's like, I thought that we were closer than this because Lisa says everything with us is like surface level. And I was like, damn, that's kind of mean.

That's mean. That's a pretty mean to say. That's straight up mean. And she's like, I didn't think that at all. And then I do think that Heather kind of shoehorns in the Jack comment. She's like, and like I would love to be able to talk to you about Jack. And I was like, hmm, not the right time to slip that in because it didn't land very well that you guys are closer that it's not surface level. Like that didn't hit.

And then you immediately try to talk about things that are not surface level. And I think that she would have done herself a favor to bring that up in a moment where it's not contentious. But now that there's contention there, if that's even a word, I don't know. but now that it's sorry I should probably should just attention regardless it was a bad time to do that and Lisa immediately locks up that's where we get the weird middle ground of I get where Heather's coming from I also get where Lisa is coming from however I thought Lisa was really disrespectful in sort of belittling Heather's experience she's like the church that you grew up with and the church that I grew up with are very different it's like well yeah because Heather was a legit, full-blown Mormon. She was all about the Mormon church. She followed it to a T. She did what Mormons are supposed to do. Monica, Lisa does the watered down version, which is what a lot of people do with religion. They pick and choose where they want to be devout. And then they kind of cast aside like the actual things that you need to do to be a full-fledged whatever. So I think that

in that moment by her saying like, you wrote a book called Bad Mormon, I want to raise Jack to be a good Mormon. It's like, well, Heather did not become a bad Mormon because she chose to do so. Heather became a quote unquote bad Mormon because the church is arguably extremely corrupt, misogynistic, racist, a lot of other things, and she took a stance against that. That's powerful. That's strong. And for you to say that it's almost her fault was ridiculous. I didn't like that at all. No, I didn't like that at all either. And this kind of goes to show you. what we were talking about earlier with Lisa finding a voice

I don't know if I like where Lisa's going and this was one of the things where because aside from the like what you said about the shoehorning in of talking about Jack and in not being the time I thought that Heather was coming from a good place and she was kind of knocked off balance

when Lisa said surface level she did not like that I didn't like that I was like what the fuck is that all about like that's that's mean and Lisa's leaning into this like kind of like a mean spirited friend anymore and i don't like where she's going with any of that heather's coming from a good place she wants to make sure that you guys are good and i felt like between gaslighting and kind of going after heather for no reason lisa did not look good in that conversation at all i felt bad for heather the entire time heather was just trying to

squash it just trying to keep things cop aesthetic look i didn't understand why you didn't like that i had angie over i thought we were friends we've seen it across every fucking franchise you're allowed to be friends with someone and not fuck with the other person you're allowed to be friends with that person and not fuck with the other person like that happens all the time people stay out of it it's a personal grudge you're two women on a show you have to see each other more than you'd probably like you get it it's fine it's okay that doesn't mean that i can't still be friends with them i still have to film scenes with them i still have to have uncomfortable situations where i'm inviting them to my house and yeah

we might look like friends but we're not friends lisa's just kind of honing in on that and just kind of pick and fights with everybody. And I do think that what we talked about earlier is going to happen. I think that everything's going to come crumbling down at some point. I think Lisa is strong enough where it's going to deflect or she's, this is kind of mean, but I think she's ignorant enough where she's not even going to realize the things are coming down on her head and she's just going to keep plunging forward. It's going to be a really weird dynamic moving forward.

And we get a little bit more of that towards the midseason trailer that we get at the end. I don't know. I liked Lisa a lot last season. I thought that it was good that she was finding her voice. Now I'm kind of eating my words. Yeah, I'm curious what's going to be this straw that breaks the camel's back? Like, where are she going to overstep too much? And I do think we're going to see it.

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You're smirking. What's going on? I'm not smirking. I disagree. Oh, well, let's hear your take. Monica went a little too far. I agree Monica went a little too far in the situation. Just because I've seen people do this in real life, you feel like you're exonerated

because you're the person who is, and this is what Monica kept saying, you're getting mad at me because I'm just telling you what I've heard. I'm making sure that you know you should be mad at everybody else who's been spreading it. As soon as Monica told her, which she told Whitney first and then obviously sat down. I didn't have a problem with that. As soon as Monica told Angie what was going on, she then took it upon herself to go over to Lisa Barlow and sit down. And not only did she tell Lisa Barlow what was going on, she then went further and said, there are boyfriends that are running around Salt Lake City saying that they are Sean's boyfriend and that they

had sex with him and there's a lot more going on she went deeper she used specifics you don't do that you are not exonerated you are not some like i don't know peace treaty like somewhere in the middle where you can't do anything wrong as soon as you go over and you share more specifics with a third party who's not involved in this you're now wrong again so i think monica is wrong and i think that i don't know if angie she kind of knows all that she's not great at saying the right thing ever but when I watch that, I think Monica's way in the wrong. Well, for me, it's like,

I can see what you're saying, where she did go too far with it. However, Angie's like, I wish you would have pulled me aside. And I did think, like, well, she did pull you aside and have the conversation. Did she go too far by telling other people?

Sure, I agree with you there. But she did pull her aside. And I think that Angie's got all of her anger pointed at Monica. And I don't think that that's fair. I don't think that Monica deserves all of, the lashing out from Angie because there's other people involved

in this and Angie then goes like well I've heard shit about you and she's like well bring it on like what do you got for me and this is where Linda comes out of nowhere and this is why moms should not be involved in housewives because this was an uncomfortable

scenario this was not necessary you don't need to come over and referee because it's not going to end well for your daughter it's going to make there's no scenario where this place out that Monica's going to win now because you are trying to silence her in an argument that we've seen a thousand times. We've seen people fight in front of kids. We've seen people fight at parties. We've seen people fight at charity events, homeless, not toothless. Like we've seen this

shit time and time again. We do not need Linda coming in and trying to referee. And at the same time, my biggest issue with this is now she's trying to play like PC police. Like she is mom of the year. Like you're not going to do this at somebody else's house and this and that. We saw a peek behind the curtain last week, and I'm not going to let that go. When we hear about the phone call in which she thought she hung up, and then she's like, fuck you, fuck your fucking face, you're disgusting, blah, blah, blah. She says all that things about her daughter. We hear about their upbringing, where she eventually backed out of the Mormon church because she didn't agree with what they were teaching her kids. And then she's going to say on camera that you need to

have Jesus in your life. You need to have a spiritual leader in your family. That needs to be you, this and that. She's playing this shit up for the camera. She's trying to come off as looking good that she's a good mother and to me all I see is a narcissistic mom that emotionally abuses her child that doesn't support her child that in this moment you have one of two options one grab her by the arm and say Monica don't do this you're making yourself like you're making yourself look bad let's get out of here that's one way to deal with it two you could back her up and be like hey or just stay out of it do not go over there and take angie's side because what she does is give angie and out angie was coming at monica

She was saying, I've heard rumors about you. She was being mean. But when Linda comes over, now Angie plays the, you know what? It's not the time. I don't want to do this here. I don't want to get mad. We're just trying to squash this. That wasn't the energy you had before Linda entered the conversation.

And now Monica's catching all sorts of shit online. People saying, I would never talk to my mother like that. I would never do this. I would never do that. You don't know the ins and outs of their relationship. You don't know what her upbringing is. We see a confessional where she is shattered saying, I wish I had a different mom. yeah no i fully agree and i think that even without the the peek behind the curtain that we got

last week we would still come out of this situation knowing exactly who linda is and i fucking hate linda linda linda is a shit man we can see her for who she is i fully agree she's playing it up for the cameras she's trying to be nice i felt super bad for monica Monica brought her along and she's got to be stuck in this weird like rock in a hard place where yes, you know, my mom is in my life and I need as much help as I can possibly get because I'm a single mother and my mom is here willing to help but I still have to eat shit from my mom all the time and now I'm on a fucking TV show and my mom wants to show her face and she wants to flirt with my friend's dad inappropriate, disgusting behavior and now she's going to come over while I'm getting into it with a castmate and sit down and try to play the play the peacemaker while at the same time taking Angie's side. She's diminishing what Monica's doing. She's immediately assuming Monica's in the wrong.

We get a glimpse into what kind of mother Linda is. A shit mom. She's the worst fucking mom that I've ever seen. This is, we like to see, we like to see good arguments going on between the women on the show. And we like to see when family

somewhat gets involved here and there because you get a little bit more of a dynamic. And I understand that. Linda, fuck off. you're not welcomed here you came along monica did not need to invite you instead you take angie's side you have no idea what's going on you're immediately pushing monica down and assuming that she's at fault telling her to go to the bathroom over and over and over again it was super uncomfortable monica rightfully gets fucking pissed off and honestly i watched i watched monica and i don't i don't know monica i didn't know monica i watched monica turn into teenage monica which is probably exactly where

she was with her mom in her life she went right back to teenage monica throwing a fit freaking out cursing her out going back to angie she didn't know what to do because she's still trying to defend herself from angie and she can't because her mom's in the way her mom's standing in the way facing angie and saying i love your house it's so nice over here like fuck off like get the hell out of here you are not supposed to be here i don't want to see linda on the show ever again i hope this is the end of linda because hopefully monica wises up a little bit and says you know what these cameras around get the hell out of here you're two-faced you suck you're not doing me any favors and now for monica to be getting shit online that's insane these people who are watching these people who

watch that scene and are commenting online saying i would never talk to my mother like that you should be thankful that you have a good mother it sounds like you have a good mother and if you don't then maybe you're just a spineless little bitch and you can't stand up for yourself that's what it seems like monica was able to stand up for herself in a very uncomfortable environment in a house that you've never been to before in front of a bunch of people that you've never met before. You calmly, maybe not so calmly, but calmly in my mind, got your kids and left. And who the fuck stayed behind because they want to sit around and watch people throw money? Linda, she stayed behind in their house and had fun and had a smile on her face after her,

her daughter just walked out with the kids. It's insane. You know what I see? I see a woman that looks around the room, sees piles of money, sees this beautiful house. Can we talk about that? That much more procedure or whatever? What the hell is that? Oh yeah, we can in a sec.

But I just see her, like, I want this. I want to be a part of this. She's trying to insert herself into this lifestyle. And look, this is not your place. Your place is to back up your daughter. Even if she's wrong, don't fucking single her out. It was like you said, we see her revert back to like teenage Monica. There's clearly trauma there, which tells me that there is much more to this relationship

than we're seeing. And when she leaves, which is the right move, get your kids and go. And somebody commented, I read on one thread. They're like, and she didn't even let her kids stay for the Easter egg hunt. Like, blah. I was like, shut up. Like, shut up.

She got her kids out of that situation because it was an uncomfortable situation. She did what was right for her. Got the hell out of there. But then we go, like, flash over to Lisa. I would never talk to my mom like that. As you said so well, you probably had a good mom, Lisa. You probably had a good relationship. There's so much.

more to this than we possibly can ever know and until there's more information everyone needs to butt out and linda can kick rocks i just i just can't imagine watching that confessional towards the end and then commenting that like that's just like where there's no self-aware there's no awareness actually at all but anyway let's get to some questions so i can go hibernate for the next 24 hours and hopefully kick this thing excuse me Up first. Oh, I love this from Helena, oh, man, Helena Newberry Grant, got it. Not a cue.

I hope everyone sees that Monica is trying to end toxic cycles in her family. She's too enmeshed. I hope that people see that too. I hope that people see that Monica is standing up for herself because of how tough she was raised and all the things she doesn't agree with her mom. And she's trying to do better. and she's also calling her mom out. We saw her call her mom out in front of an entire party

and say, I don't know who you are or what you're doing, but knock it off because this is bullshit. And we saw right through it immediately. And I hope that more people do from the comment sections, a lot of people did not. And that's a fucking shame. It is a shame. From Mary Had a little,

do you think Lisa is trying to take Monica down this season? I don't know what Lisa is doing. we kind of touched on that a little bit I don't know if she's trying to actively take anybody down I think that she thinks that she's standing up for herself maybe trying to show a little spine here and there but I don't know

I don't think Lisa's at the stage where she's where Meredith is where Meredith is trying to take down people I don't think Lisa's there yet okay from Max June should LD and Angie's dad go on a date hell no because Angie's dad seems like a sweet man yeah keep that

that man away yeah no ld seems like a disaster from julie bush 4300 borderline personality disorder question mark then the picture was monica no dude what a brutal thing to say yeah come on tough no she's not borderline personality she was stuck in a rock in a hard place with her mom trying to single her out in front of an entire party and take the side of the aggressor like come on absolutely not i try to have a little empathy jolly yeah recent thank you for listening we love you but no and the last thing here oh this is a good one because on the picture i posted with the questions it's where it's captioned with monica saying you can find your own ride home dead ass yeah rene beck 24 says that's what i'd say to kimbril tonight find your own ride home dead ass oh thank god can we end on that one yeah we can

that anybody that didn't watch the Phil's, Kimbril blew it tonight. Yeah, and if you're weirdly waiting till tomorrow to watch it and you have a T-vode or something, people still T-vot, right? I don't know. No, probably not.

Don't. Just do yourself a favor and don't. Just don't even bother. No, that was the worst game ever. I'm glad we got to end it on that note. Yeah, thank God. That was awesome. That was a whole thing. That was a great comment.

That was, wow. We should have a hall of favor. At the end of the year, maybe we'll do a hall of fame. That's a lot of manpower. We have to go through questions. Here's the thing. Our 100th episode is next week. Maybe we'll do that for number 100.

We'll do some Hall of Fame, Rosen Torns. I gave us two and a half months to achieve this. And you're like, you know what? We have six days. We've got six days, buddy. Six days. Get it together. Six days in the middle of a playoff run.

Yeah, that's great. We have to do something for our hundredth episode. We've been doing this for 100 episodes. That's wacky. Look at us now. Crazy. Who'd have thunk? Sick and sad.

That's episode 99, though. Episode 100 will be happy and healthy, hopefully. Hopefully. Remember, we have a live show in L.A., November 19th at the Bourbon Room. It's a Friendsgiving with Zach Peter. Go to nofilterlive.com to get your tickets and follow us on all of our socials at Bravo underscore Bros. And subscribe to our YouTube channel at Brav Bros.

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