Bros & Shows - Gretchen Folds and Jenn Falls as Tamra's Plan Works (RHOC Full Recap)
Episode Date: September 9, 2025What's up Bros? Another week another tough episode. Besides "good news friday" we aren't left with much else to discuss. In this episode, we watch as Jenn and Gretchen fold to Tamra. Despite Katie hav...e some fairly convincing evidence about the polygraph, Jenn decides to ignore it in hopes that she wont be dragged further into it. Gretchen attempts to bury the hatchet with Tamra. Katie is being held to an entirely different standard and it's beginning to be beyond frustrating. This show is on the rocks and it doesn't have a bright spot in sight. What will happen next? Who knows and honestly? Who cares. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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this is. This is like
if somebody said, hey, do you
want to watch the downfall of Housewives
as we know it? Just watch
this season of O.C. I don't know
what I... It's so
ass backwards. It's embarrassing.
The way that some of these
ladies are moving and decisions that we're making
are just befuddling. I am
befuddled.
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Welcome back to another episode
of Brows and Shows
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You're Russell
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by the one and only
O.C. Goots.
What's up, dude?
I don't really know
what we're going to talk about.
I didn't watch the episode.
I fucking wish I didn't.
Honestly.
Jesus.
Like, yeah, we did this last week.
We're going to do it every week
probably.
Yeah, we did this two years.
years ago. So you guys know what the drill is. If we've been around for a while, you know, we're
about to do. We get better at it. It's, it gets to a point we're almost like, numb. Yeah.
And then we'll have like a good banter back and forth, kind of joking about like what we
would do to fix it. This seems so far gone that there is no fixing. It just like, ending the
episode with Good News Friday, I'm like, I don't know four of you. You just walked up to this
table. Matt's wife is there. Joe is there. Gina's ex's new wife.
That's Matt's wife.
Oh, that's Matt's wife.
Joe's there.
Like, Sophie comes up.
Yeah.
Look, guys, great.
Good news is great.
Good for you.
I don't give two fucks about what you're talking about in this speech.
It's legitimately every in-between scene of like, this is what's going on in my life.
I don't care.
No.
I simply do not care what's going on in these women's lives.
It just doesn't mean anything to me.
But they are a product of their own downfall.
The downfall is a product of themselves.
because we care when it's a good season.
When you have housewives doing their jobs well,
we care about the in-between scenes
because we're invested in the characters.
I hate, I genuinely hate everybody on this show
except for Katie.
I used to like Jen.
I hate Jen.
She stinks.
What the fuck was that?
This season's going to make me a Tamara fan.
That's how far we're willing to go with this.
Hold on.
We understand.
We've said this forever.
Hammer is a great house.
She's doing her fucking job.
She's the only one doing her job.
Literally.
Everybody else sucks.
Absolutely.
I'm a Tamara fan.
Yeah.
Just in regards to, like, the fact that she is doing her job, she understands the assignment.
She's not on team.
Let's just fucking get people that we don't like out of here.
You have to have cause.
You have to have reason.
Watching everybody just completely fucking 180 on Tamara this episode.
Meanwhile, Katie is an untouchable pariah.
Yeah.
But Tamara's cool, Gretchen.
Are you fist-fucking me right now?
Yeah, I said it.
This is crazy.
That just flew out of your mouth.
I don't know.
Can you get that one back?
I'm leaving it out there.
I said it of my own volition.
I am mortified that we're watching this right now, and they don't know what to do with the last 10 minutes of the episode.
So we're going to do Good News Friday.
Is it?
So my question is, obviously, the end of the episode ends with the mid-season trailer.
Which is never technically in the middle, so it doesn't mean we have 18 episodes.
We don't have another nine to go.
We've probably got, and I'm hoping.
This was nine, right?
Yeah, this was nine.
I'm hoping that somebody can do the research on this because I just, I'm too tired of OC to deal with it.
Figure out when the mid-season trailer usually airs.
Because I don't know if we've even seen Miami's yet.
I don't think we have, but I kind of tend to check out with the scenes from next week.
And if they say the rest of the season, they probably already take it.
They, I don't know, 15 episodes in at this point.
Miami's almost done.
Yeah, Miami's left.
So I'm hoping that they realize what kind of stinker they put out there.
And they are going to accelerate to the end.
We've seen that in the past.
I can hope.
Was that Potomac that rushed it?
Potomac rushed it.
Atlanta seemingly rushed it, although that really started to drag on to.
There's not a whole lot that they can do because they have so much filmed and they've sunk so much money.
That's what I was going to say.
Their contracts are so big.
So they're going to do it.
It's just rushed to the end.
at this point because so much things, so many things are changing.
I know.
And we're hearing now that all of the stuff that we were kind of gearing towards which was going
to be, which would have been downright unwatchable for the reunion, was just going to
be all Katie-centric, like going after her, proving to everybody that she was doing all
of these things, which none of us would have cared about.
And it's not true.
And none of us would have tuned in for.
Instead, we're flipping and we're hearing reports now from Heather and from other people
that they thought it was going to be a takedown of Katie.
And now that Tamara is kind of aligned herself with Katie and other people are starting to talk about it,
it might actually be an indictment on the rest of the cast, which obviously brings us back in.
Because that's how we all feel.
We're all, again, it's just really funny because Katie has done these things to herself.
Sure.
But she hasn't gotten a fair shake that every other housewife in the existence of housewives has ever gotten.
So we're still sitting here like, well, fuck the rest of them.
Let's hear from Katie.
And we're not going to hear from Katie because she's not going to be on the show for six weeks.
And I don't want to see this group of idiots go to Amsterdam.
Unless, and this is where I might become a Tamer fan,
she actually is just a complete and utter asshole to everybody on the gas.
And it appears that she starts to do that.
And if she starts doing that, I'm going to turn.
I'm going to be like, all right, Tamara, I get where you're saying.
Well, be an asshole to Gina and Emily.
Be an asshole to, you know, Shannon's still walking carefully around you.
I don't give a shit.
I'm so tired of Shannon popping off like she does nothing for me anymore.
Be an asshole to Heather.
Do something.
Lay to fire under her ass because she's boring as shit.
too. They all are, dude. It's unwatchable at this point. I will say this. And Ryan, you must be
having a field day. This is like our most Tamara positive episode ever. We're going the opposite
of like choose the lesser of two evils. I'm choosing the most evil. I want the most evil at this point.
Release the demon. Yeah. I want Tamara to go back to like her psychotherapy session and get all of
these trigger words and keywords that she can use and arguments against people. I want her to
piss people off. I'm for it. I am under the impression that this whole thing, and I don't know if
it was like premeditated, I think it kind of came about by the situation. Tamara, who is a great
housewife, I don't like Tamara. She's good at her job. Tamara read the room. She also, she listens to
everything. Like, that's the one thing you can also credit her with. Like, during the season,
she's taking notes of every single interaction. She comes into this season. It's Tamara versus
is Gretchen, Jen, and Katie, right?
So what does she do?
She infiltrates.
She gets between Katie and the other girls, flips them somehow against Katie,
even though Gretchen did say that she went to the hospital.
We have proof of that.
Now we have fucking Sheena Shea coming out of right field saying that she's the one that told Kiki Monique,
probably just looking for some attention, but still a valid person coming into this mix
who would do something like that, so it makes sense.
Tamara hears that.
Tamara here's this. Tamara reads the room and goes, okay, I've infiltrated it.
I'm going to work on Gretchen, get her back on my team a little bit.
I'm going to work on Jen, get her back on my team a little bit.
Then I'm going to fuck both of them because I'm going to flip at the reunion and be Team
Katie. Masterful work.
Yeah.
I do believe she saw an opening and took it.
Yeah, that's really all it is. It's really not that difficult either.
This has to be the easiest franchise to be a housewife on because it's so simple.
It's just simply so simple.
If you put any good houseway from any other franchise and throw them into O.C.
Right now, they're going to do the same shit that timer's doing because it's just easy.
Why not?
It's a layup.
Just go after the weakest links, which is everybody on the show.
You can take your pick.
If you are even a remotely capable housewife, you can walk into this show and thrive
because nobody else knows what to do.
The two at the helm right now is fucking Gina and Emily.
That's where the show is.
those two can't carry shit, as we're seeing this season.
This season is a product of those two being at the forefront.
Let's just break down, because we always need a good storyline for a main housewife.
Let's break down their storylines.
Okay.
Emily, using her son as a storyline right now.
Emily, which every week, it just gets worse and worse, to be honest.
Like, there is too much, and we've said it from day one, like, okay, like, if you're going to share this part of you, you know, just be careful because it's going to be around forever.
your son's going to grow up.
He's going to have to understand that this whole experience was filmed and it's on Bravo.
And every week it gets worse because she allows it to continue.
Also, and I'm not trying to minimize what her and her family are going through.
We're not in the meetings.
We're not at the doctor's office.
We don't know what the diagnosis is.
What I will say is this.
A kid calling their mom speaking in a baby voice about wanting to do something
hearing no and hanging up
doesn't scream problematic to me.
And that could be short-sighted.
I could be being an asshole right now.
Again, I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
If you don't want to feel like an asshole,
I can be an asshole.
Okay, you do it.
You're a shit mom.
Go home.
Go home.
I don't know.
Yeah.
You're just complaining that you and Shane
might get divorced because of this.
And you're saying Shane doesn't know what a parent.
We've seen Shane fairly calm with this entire thing,
being a dad and trying to navigate it to the best of his ability.
and telling you, I'm looking at the positive.
Let's wait for the diagnosis, but when you were gone, we were pretty good.
Dude, that first scene with the testosterone thing, you've got Gretchen on one side just bringing up Slade's broken dick again.
Don't care.
Don't care about that.
Emily, on the other side, it makes me want to have sex with Shane.
Enough.
You need to get a shot in your ass to have sex with your husband.
Enough.
I've had enough of him.
You're not happy.
I get the fuck out of my life.
I am forced at gunpoint every week to work.
watch you on this show.
By all of you listening.
By all of you listening.
And I have had enough of Emily.
She is the worst.
Gina is just nothing.
She's a non-factor.
Her storyline is that her ex-husband had a heart attack.
Sad.
It's sad.
Oh, no.
I'm glad.
Bring this to the OC.
This is a great storyline.
We're friends.
We're co-parenting and we've got all this.
Congratulations.
No, it's great.
And this is, by the way, a byproduct of just a shit season, a shit cast.
We look at these, like, weird storylines.
weird little things that happen from episode to episode
that could be nice in a dramatic season like Salt Lake or Miami
and instead we've got this and we're going to sit here and make fun of them.
Yeah, relentlessly, because when we dive into the episode itself,
like you said, they're at like the testosterone implant factory where they fix
penises or something.
I don't know.
What was the fucking tool?
Do a whole episode of that tool that they used to fix Slade's dick.
Sure.
Probably interesting.
I'd watch something like that on TikTok.
Yeah, that would be an interesting...
Like, how does this work?
Sure.
Yeah.
That would be more interesting than what we're watching.
And the minute I hear Emily say, I hope Katie's gone.
We don't.
Yeah.
Because that's part of the fucking show.
Not how it works.
Let her defend.
We don't get to just have some fucking, what, Persian New Year, a lie detector test that proves everybody's so innocent except for Katie and then say, good, I hope she's gone.
She's a castmate, a real housewife.
She is holding.
Where do you want her to go?
She's holding.
I don't even know what they fucking hold anymore.
An orange?
That would make sense, Orange County.
Yep.
she's holding an orange let her talk for fuck's sake because then you get to the next scene
then she pulls out actual fucking evidence it says this guy is a paid actor the
furthest fall from grace like i she was so set up so set up for any sort of success any sort
of potential moving forward and becoming a good housewife completely gone out the window entirely
completely gone because everybody can see through this entire conversation yep you are so
afraid to align yourself with Katie because
you're going to go into the sinking ship. Yep.
Grow some balls. Please. Go to the
testosterone place. Get a chip
that grows balls and fixes your penis.
I don't know what it does over there. No idea
what they do over there. It's probably in a
good season we would spend
like 10 minutes on that testosterone place just talking
about what they do because it's very fascinating
I'm sure. No. Jen,
gross and balls. It's crazy.
Spend your friend. Please, because
she just gave you the website
printed out that says
willing to do some acting
paid actor
blah blah blah we have evidence of these people
on TV in the past also
we never get when we
the Twitter sleuths and everybody starts
compiling all this evidence
and we see oh yeah we've seen
these people before they've been on multiple shows
they've lied for the sake of furthering
a storyline we usually don't
get that until like a reunion and it's like hey did you see
who this person said on Twitter
Katie shows up the next day with that
like here you go here's some fucking act
What am I supposed to believe this?
Yeah. Terry Dubrozo, a doctor on a TV show.
Was that the same fucking thing?
If he played a doctor on Nip-Tuck, a classic show from FX in the 90s in the early 2000s, which I loved, very much so.
If he played a doctor on that show and was also a doctor, that would be pretty cool.
Not the same thing.
Not even remotely.
It would be like saying, well, I mean, I play a housewife on TV and a reality show.
Does that mean I'm not a housewife else?
No.
It's not the same thing.
It's the worst fucking comparison I've ever heard in my life.
It was really good.
And I hate that.
That made me hate Heather Debrough.
Heather's having a tough show.
She's been a non-factor and I don't care.
And I want her to go to Beverly Hills and move on with her life.
Now I don't want her to go anywhere.
Go away.
It's just, it's frustrating to watch the people that were involved with the dinner.
You know, now Jen is completely, what's the word, obfuscating?
Yep.
Herself from this whole thing saying, well, what I heard was she said she should have gone.
We have pretty damning evidence that she said.
Well, we heard Gretchen say yesterday.
Yeah.
That's not what Katie's talking about.
Exactly.
And you were at the dinner.
The most condemning evidence of all is every time we cut over to Matt.
He's like, look.
And he has fucking 30 phone calls from Slate.
By the way, when they do show the text messages later, Katie says that they will unveil what Slade was saying.
Because weirdly enough, they blurt it out.
Blurt it out.
Why are we redacting?
Why are we even seeing it?
Why are we even seeing the text messages if all we're going to get is blurred out from Slade, the housewife?
Why do you have to redact Slate?
Yeah.
No, it doesn't make any sense.
He signed up to be on this show.
He really wants to be on this show as we know.
He wants to be a housewife.
So I don't fucking understand any of that.
But really, the only thing that anybody with any sense can sit here and do is watch how we go from scene to scene.
And when you get to a scene with Matt and Katie, it's normal.
And Matt isn't speaking in some code and making shit up and talking about this and that and whatever.
He's talking about why the fuck would I be on the slate, or on the slate train.
I was going to say, maybe.
Why would I be on the phone with Slade this many times if it wasn't for that?
Hey, Matt, that makes total sense to me.
You're pretty normal, and that's a normal thing to say.
Why the fuck would Slade call me this many times?
I don't want to be on the phone with this douchebag.
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That's literally what he says.
That's like way later in the episode.
I mean, I guess we can stop and talk about Matt, Britt, and Gina.
Look, I love that Matt's okay.
Good for you.
You know, take care of yourself.
Take care of your ticker.
You only get one.
So good for you.
I'm glad you have a good relationship.
Co-parenting all of that.
That's wonderful.
I'm happy for you or something.
Yeah.
But then you get to Heather with Tamara.
I don't know who you are, but sure.
Yeah, whatever.
And then you get Heather with Tamara.
and then Jen arrives there.
They're making polygraph jokes.
This is where you get the fucking crazy line.
Like, Terry's a doctor on a show.
Terry is a doctor on a reality show about doctors.
That makes sense.
Okay, it doesn't say on Terry's website,
we'll do some paid acting, does it?
Because then I probably wouldn't go to him.
No, exactly.
It says on their fucking website, dude.
They have an IMDB.
They should have done the Persian New Year in a police station.
That would have been cool.
Then I would have believed it.
And then I would have potentially, I still, there would have been a little bit of doubt, but I would have believed it.
But you watched Jen bow to Tamara at this lunch.
They stand up and they fucking kumbaya, like, you know what?
Easiest thing in Tamara's life, by the way.
Do it as a layup.
She didn't even have to try.
She barely did anything.
All she did was convince Jen that you don't want the mess Katie's involved in.
But guess what, Jen, I want that mess.
I'm just not going to tell you about it until I'm fun of fucking bury you.
It makes way for me to do that because you're not capable.
of taking the other side.
Let me take the reins.
Because this is hot.
This is great stuff.
If I go over to this side
and I go after you guys,
people want to watch that.
And yeah,
people do actually want to watch that.
We're ready.
Because we hate everybody else.
With a fiery, fiery passion
and watching Shannon, Emily,
and Gina go shopping
and the phone call comes in
and she's like, I don't know what I'm doing.
It makes me want to leave and go home.
Then fucking go home.
Go home and film that.
that scene so we can see what's going on. You wanted to enter, you wanted. Yeah, that's true.
To bring this up. Okay. You want us to feel sympathy for you. And I do to a certain extent.
Obviously, it's a difficult subject. But you brought your kids into the show. I just don't get it.
I don't get what you want from us, Emily. I don't get what you're trying to pull out of us. I don't
get why you're not going home if that is the case. I have no idea, honestly. And all we've heard,
by the way, we're not just jumping to conclusions because we hate Emily. Yes, we hate it.
Emily. Both can be true. Yeah. We're using the evidence that you're giving us. Correct.
Which is you blaming Shane, but Shane's saying whatever you're home, he acts like a baby.
He's also a kid. He's a child. And it seems to me the outsider looking in that maybe you baby the kid.
I don't know. You're not giving us anything else here. I don't know what to say. You're just saying that like it might end up with you and Shane getting divorced, which by the way, maybe you should get divorced.
You don't seem to like each other. Also, by the same.
by the way, I hope Shane has a pre-up because I know that his family pays for your whole fucking
lifestyle. He's got that Mormon money. He's got that money that he's just sitting on. And I hope
he's got a pre-up because if you guys do get divorced and Shane can grow a backbone and actually
divorce you, what are you going to do? I don't want... You're going to be on this show
anymore, God willing. I don't root for divorces. I'm not going to root for the divorce.
Again, let me reiterate, if there's something going on with Luke, which there appears to be,
like, yeah, obviously that's fucking hard. Like, you're trying to deal with a kid that's on the
spectrum and you're trying to figure out where he lies on the
spectrum and what to do and how to diagnose, how to treat it, all
of those things. Super difficult.
I'm sure it's a very harrowing task.
I empathize with that.
But what you're giving us
does not resonate as far as,
oh, that's what you're going through. What we see
is, okay, maybe he is crying
for help. Maybe he is FaceTime
you asking for help.
And you're saying to two other women there,
I feel like it should go home.
We do too. Go home.
Call me old-fashioned, but if this is a new thing that you guys have realized that your son is going through, do it off camera.
Go home and take care of him.
Get it actually fixed.
Don't just bitch about it on camera.
And then have to have him in 10, 15 years look back and clean up this mess that you made for him because he won't stop talking about it.
Facebook post.
I hate this show.
I fucking hate it so much.
And then Gretchen's going to comment, or Katie's going to comment on the Facebook.
Hopefully.
And then we're going to be back here in 15 years.
We're never leaving.
Oh, God.
We're stuck forever.
But that's when you get the scene with Katie and Matt,
where they have actual evidence and a normal conversation, like you said,
without code words, without hinting at things.
You get an actual explanation.
Look how many times Slade called me.
Look at these text messages.
Without it seeming like and stinking like it was rehearsed.
No, it looks like Matt's like literally just completely perplexed by this whole thing.
Like, how is this happening to you, Katie?
We have all of the evidence.
Look, again, Katie put herself in this spot because she's,
she kept talking to people.
Yep.
Okay.
She's the one that said it?
Yes.
Like that does,
now we have a whole new wrinkle in this whole thing that none of us
fucking care about,
by the way.
Please, for the love of God,
because we know Sheena's going to be involved in the valley.
We hear shit about Kiki Monique.
You bring this to the valley.
Anything else, if this comes into the valley,
I'm going to,
actually, you know what?
If it comes to the valley,
I am actually very confident that people like Doty and Jesse.
I'm like,
what the fuck.
Be like,
shut up.
Yeah,
I don't want to deal with this.
I don't want to deal with you.
Go away.
but like the Sheena wrinkle
adds a whole layer of stink to this thing
anytime she's involved
it means that somebody's vying for attention
because they feel like they're falling out of the spotlight
so anytime I hear oh it might have been Sheena
it's like oh then this whole thing is fake
all of this is bullshit higher thing is maybe one thing was said
or hinted at but the story that we're getting
is completely embellished if you need proof of that
read her fucking book or
Gretchen is fully lying and Sheena's like
oh, I did hear that, let me get involved, and it just comes back on Gretchen.
If it comes back on Gretchen entirely, I'm okay with that.
Fine.
I don't care.
But, like, I know it's going to take us a long time to even get remotely close to that.
It should be one of those things that if it does come fully back on Gretchen and we find out before they film the reunion, she's got to go.
I agree.
You got to go.
You came on to the show for one purpose, and we watched you back down in this episode to the one person you were supposed to go.
We were excited for this.
Yeah.
How fucking dumb are we?
Yeah.
We were stoked.
We're like, finally, someone's going to go after.
Nope.
Nope.
All she had to do was scare you a little bit, and you cowered.
You cowered away like a coward.
And the other problem is, for the outlook of this franchise in particular, everybody who's
just been stoking the fire of maybe Vicki will come back, Vicki said she doesn't want to come back.
So we're dead.
We're done.
Recast, gone.
Fuck.
Send them gone.
Well, let's go to the beach.
Why don't we go to the beach?
Let's go to the beach where nothing happens except for Tamara gets her way, which again, yay, team Tamara now.
Who would have seen that?
Maybe she'll unblock us.
I don't know.
But, like, we go to the beach and what is there to discuss?
Let's look.
Tamara brought Joe.
Gretchen sees that.
You know it's a shot at you, Gretchen.
That's the X of your husband, your deadbeat husband, that we all think is a deadbeat, by the way.
So you're not going to escape those allegations.
I love that we got a little montage or a clip of going back to him at the fucking reunion 12 years ago going,
I decided not to come back.
And he's like, you're not a housewife, dick.
fuck off you weren't invited back what he's talking about that makes no sense he was so thirsty for
the camera he got involved with another housewife crazy okay anyway gretchen sees joe clocks that this is a
move from tamra and then still even after that agrees to go sit with tamara to squash things
not only that she leads it off i'm sorry i contacted your daughter now you go and tamma's like
I guess I'm sorry.
I guess, yeah.
Whatever.
Oh, I'm the reason that Slate hasn't been getting jobs.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Let me come in and I'll just hold your hand.
We got one little glimpse right before that conversation where you can kind of see where
Tamara's going.
Right when she starts asking questions about what Gretchen said, because Tamara was in the car
when Gretchen said, I had to go to the hospital the next day.
Oops.
I felt so bad I went to the hospital.
Oh, I misspoke.
Tamara was in the fucking SUV, which.
I'm giving only Tamara, Tamara only, a pass on last week for not speaking up.
Yeah, because clearly there's bigger things in motion.
Because she's a good housewife.
Whole plan in motion.
She's like, oh, that's not what you said to me and Shannon in the car the other day.
And then she started ticking.
Whatever.
Let's start going this way.
Katie's on the outs.
I'll start quietly talking to Katie, get more information, and then I'll stand up and just completely knock Gretchen completely back.
Why?
Why not?
Because it's such a layup.
It's a fucking layup.
for Tamara, who's a very capable
housewife. This should be a layup
across the board for an average housewife,
and this is what we have to be dealing with.
Well, that's the funny thing is you can literally
see it start to hatch, or
it might have hatched a little bit before
this, but you can see her putting the pieces together
because as they're sitting at the table, she brings it up
to Gretchen. She's like, but
what exactly did you say?
And Gretchen, like, kind of stumbles.
She's like, well, no, well, I must have misspoke.
It's like, ooh, that's never going to work,
especially against Tamara. So you can
She also said, I heard that, you know, Slade was calling Matt.
Katie said that Slade was calling Matt.
What were they talking about?
Which means that he's trying to get that going, yeah.
You're getting all of the pieces that she's putting together, and that's the thing.
Anybody on the receiving end, Gretchen, Jen, they should be sitting there going, fuck, she's got something.
She's burned us, I don't know how many times.
If you're Gretchen, you should be like, fuck, why did I say that?
Yeah.
Unless she just genuinely doesn't remember.
Oh, that's Jen's problem.
That's Jen's issue.
Yeah.
I mean, look.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm a very clear image of how dumb Jen is, too.
Well, the other thing is, like, you can't claim miss speaking or not saying that.
When Matt has a call log from Slade, that's pretty much his entire phone.
It's either Slade or my spicy Asian, which is funny.
But, like, the evidence that we have against, and we are very evidence focused here, as you all know, we have a lot of mounting evidence that Katie,
she's in the right
she's in the wrong
for talking to these people
but she's also in the right
because there were things
the things that are getting
are kicked out of the group
which is an insane thing to say
we have watched
countless franchises
do horrible things
we've watched Tamara
do unspeakable things
and yet she always has
a door back in or at the very least
the chance to defend it
Katie has yet
to get that chance
because all of these women are jealous
of the fact that she's younger than them,
prettier than them,
and has a good relationship with her husband and kids.
So you're all terrified of this woman.
You're jealous of this woman.
You're trying to oust her.
We don't want to see you guys gang up on a newbie
and completely kick her off the show.
That's not fun TV.
We don't want to sit around and watch Emily and Gina and Shannon
and Heather have a good news off.
No one fucking cares about any of them.
I fast forwarded.
I tuned it out.
I fast forward.
Completely tunes it out.
I'll give you my best rendition of what happened.
It seems that Sophie, Shannon's daughter, broke up with someone.
No, he broke up with her.
But, you know, there's good things on the horizon there, so that's good news for Friday.
No, no, there's not.
She's coming to visit Shannon now, and Heather's like, good news.
That's bad news.
Her boyfriend broke up with her.
Bad news.
That's sad.
Bad news.
Heather's daughter got in the yell.
Cool.
Congratulations.
affect us at all.
Then we go over to...
And it's probably one of those things where she paid for, like, the new crew clubhouse
or something, allegedly.
That's not a real thing.
Don't quote that and then get us fucking in trouble.
I don't think that happened.
And then we go over to Gina's ex-wife-in-law.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's go with that.
Once removed.
Again, thankful that Matt is alive.
Yeah, we are.
Congratulations.
You know who you were before today, but, you know, thanks.
Are we trying to integrate her?
her into the show now? Who knows? Uh, Joe, do you have anything to say? No, okay, cool. No, she did. She had
something that I don't remember because it was, it was irrelevant. And that's, she's thankful that
she's not with, uh, Slate anymore. Uh, probably. Oh, no, no, sorry, she's trying to have a baby.
Ah, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. How much do we have invested in Joe? This much.
Nothing. Fucking zero. Like, great, good for you guys. Yeah. It's, this is the equivalent.
Amra, Sophia has a boyfriend, boyfriend. This is the equivalent of going to a coffee shop and
asking strangers tell me something happy in your life did you actually fast forward because you've
answered everything that i've said so far that's when i saw the minute that have any good news
the minute that we got to joe having or trying to have a baby i then fast forwarded and shortly
there after saw credits to the trailer yeah and i paused at one point before it ended to to hear
if anything and it was still more good news and yay i was like okay so there nothing is happening
no yeah there was absolutely nothing like we're just going to sit here and listen to strangers again i
I could go do this in my neighborhood.
I can walk my dog and ask my neighbors,
hey, anything cool happened today?
You should start doing that.
It would be more interesting than this.
Good News Friday.
They would fucking hate me.
My neighbors would hate me.
They would.
If they knew that you had a podcast and then listen to it,
and we actually had like a legitimate segment,
Good News Friday.
With Steel's neighbors.
It would be more interesting than this.
It would be way more interesting.
People would be invested.
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Let me sum this up, okay? Tell me if I get this right. So I sat there for 42 minutes
and watched this through. What happened in this episode? Gretchen and Jen, sworn enemies of
Tamara, have bent the knee to Tamara. Tamara has seen an opening and is now setting up chest pieces
to take those two down because they went against her,
and she's teaming up with Katie at the reunion, as we know.
Katie has insurmountable evidence against everything that's happened to her this season,
and yet that's being treated as though it's completely irrelevant,
even though it's a website screenshot of the dude that gave the fucking thing,
the polygraph text.
And the girl.
And the girl.
Both of them are actors.
It's on his website.
But that's the same as saying that Terry Dubro is a doctor.
Is he a fake doctor?
I don't know how that fucking tracks.
And then we end it by hearing about a bunch of people we don't know
and the good news in their life.
That's where we are.
That was the episode.
That was a whole episode, 10 episodes in.
The tool that fixes Slate's penis.
Oh, and Slate's dick got fixed.
Sick.
It's getting there.
I'm so stoked that I took time out of my day to take notes on this.
What are we doing?
I don't know.
I imagine questions.
Why are you making it?
us do this guys why do you fucking do this do it i shave my head because of this show
not really it steals 2008 brittany
leave me jesus leave us alone why there's so many fucking questions
guys let us live let's dive in uh here you go uh from myra thank you for
announcing your name.
Myra.
I always appreciate that.
Yep.
Was Beach Volleyball basically a friend of audition after Katie left?
Felt super off.
Don't know.
Couldn't tell you.
Couldn't tell you.
I wasn't paying attention.
We usually love breaking down those scenes and talking about athleticism.
Didn't care.
Did not care.
Don't need to see Shannon be clumsy anymore.
Not funny.
Don't care that Gina played volleyball in high school.
Of course, she's that one.
I ain't probably in high school.
We all played sports in high school.
Sweet Sarah 10, I guess you're not as online as we are.
Clearly, Tamer's plotting.
I don't buy this truce with Gretchen.
Is Katie and Tam alliance forming?
Yes.
It already formed.
Confirmed.
Confirmed, formed currently.
Not on the show, but I'm sure.
Good for you for staying off social media.
Yeah.
Good for you.
From Lindsay Bucks.
Why are people acting like talking to a blogger is the worst thing ever done?
We don't know.
It's been our question for nine episodes now.
Why is this the end of the fucking world?
Uh, from Dentine 55.
Has Slade ever applied for a job?
have to try to get a job to get passed over.
Good point.
Probably not.
Yeah, probably not.
I'm sure Andy has a bunch of his resumes.
From Shauna Draper.
Can we talk about Philly?
Jalen Carter's spit scene around the world.
Dax seems to have instigated.
Dax spit first.
Dax spit first.
Hashtag Dax spit first.
Yep.
Oh, this is really nice.
From Elizabeth McMaster.
Wow, your name is really long.
It goes dot, dot, dot.
So I'm sorry after that.
But not a question.
but it's okay if you stop.
I certainly have it's garbage.
Thank you.
Elizabeth, I wish we could,
but there are like 50 other questions in here
that indicate we cannot.
Damn it.
We're so close.
I only put these up like right before we started filming.
You guys love to torture us.
I don't even,
I just don't have the energy to do the who do you think is back next season thing
because it's going to be disappointing.
All of them.
A lot of those.
They're all going to be back.
It's going to be terrible.
again.
I just hope Katie comes back.
I hope she has a good reunion and comes back into the fold.
Yeah.
From Keely Ray,
Emily defending her lie detector test when she knows they aren't admissible, boo.
Good point.
She's a great lawyer.
She is a lawyer from an unaccredited school.
Oh, I don't, technically.
Yeah.
She sure tries to.
She brings up legal jargon any time it's applicable,
even though she's not a practicing lawyer,
and her school that she went to is no longer an.
accredited school but hey what the fuck do we know we're not lawyers either i kind of like this idea
uh from dan j falconer should rosy 20 which would be next season be in all stars before a full
reboot i'm okay with that i'm all right with that because you can get rid of all the riffraff
that's existing right now and just bring in the all stars for one season send them to a fucking like
the legacy thing send them to an iconic rosy vacation that they did like 10 years ago have it be a
little bit of fun, and then just...
And the eight episodes.
Uh-huh.
Yep, there you go.
Armeb, one, two, four.
No question, just thanks for doing the work.
You're welcome.
It's taking years off of our lives and sucking the joy from both of us.
Yeah, I'll do that one last.
Let me see if there's another one in here.
Christine B.B.8, do we care about this show anymore? Nope.
We've stopped carrying weeks ago, yet here we are.
Oh, this is funny from Courtney Bridal Rush. It took me three times to watch this week's episode
because it was so bad. I fell asleep the first two. Good on you for going back and
rewatching. I don't know what kind of torture you're into for yourself.
It sounds like some masochistic shit.
I'm going to say this. You can stop what we're going to.
going to keep going.
We have to keep going.
You can just listen.
This last one is from out of office, Mama.
Do you think anyone will change their tune towards Katie at the reunion now with all
of the things turning?
They're going to catch wind.
Yeah.
God.
I don't.
You're going to see an awkward stumble from a couple to try to spin that they were not
anti-Kady.
I would imagine Gretchen's going to try to backpedal a little bit.
Jen's definitely going to try to backpedal because she's getting a lot of backlash
right now.
and then she's not geared towards it.
She can't handle that kind of pressure,
and she's getting a lot of it online right now.
So I'd imagine she's going to fold
because now it's two parts.
One, you're going to look like an asshole
for going after Katie.
And two, you know you have to go up against Tamara
at the reunion,
and she's going to be gassed up ready to go.
That's like Jen's worst nightmare, too,
because I can imagine while filming,
we know what she's thinking.
I don't want to attach myself to this.
I just got clear.
People seem to like me.
But now you're going to have to go through everything
and you're currently going through everything,
and if your social media is any indicator,
you're losing really badly.
This reunion is going to be a terrible time for Jen.
Brought it on yourself.
Yep.
I just hope it's a terrible time for Gina and Emily, too.
I don't give a shit about Heather Dubrow.
Like, go away to a different show.
Go to Beverly Hills.
About what she gets or doesn't get or whatever.
It's going to be Tamara and Katie.
Tamer's going to defend Katie.
Maybe she flips at some point and goes after Katie.
I don't know.
It's only things that Tamara does.
But I need Gina and Emily to just.
just get skewered because they won't be able to handle it and i'll enjoy it yeah same but you know
last year last last i remember last year we enjoyed it yep so we're one for three on ocey that was a dream
maybe it didn't even happen the fever dream like like shazam convinced me that you and i had like
similar dreams about oc probably and it was actually really really bad and we don't remember doing it's
the shazam theory no we did this today we gave ourselves cTE watching o'c
Mm-hmm. And then let me ask them, if you guys remember a movie with Sinbad in it called Shazam, in which he was a genie.
Didn't exist. I learned that today. I'm pretty confident that it did exist.
Oh, you just learned that today. I just figured it up in the group. No. No, I was on Instagram, I think, and that popped up, like, the Mandela effect of. Yeah.
I think that's the biggest one. There's a couple others. I know Samandella died in 1983, but then he lived until he's 2013. That's another one.
Yeah, that one's a different generation because, like, I wasn't alive in 83.
I'm assuming that's where Mandela affects.
It definitely is, yeah, but I think the whole world was like, oh, he was definitely dead.
They say he died in prison in 83, and then he died in 2013, so I don't know.
But me, I remember him being at the South America World Cup.
Same.
So I was like, oh, yeah, Nelson Mandela.
That's great.
But Sinbad was a genie in a movie, and I'm going to fucking prove this somehow.
Yeah, good luck.
I think a lot of people have tried.
Lesser men, though.
Damn right.
You heard it here.
Fuck.
I hate this fucking show, dude, so bad.
Okay, well, that's all I got.
You got anything else?
Nope, all good here.
Well, that's our show, I guess.
Bro's got to go.
We'll see you next week for the same bullshit.
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