Bros & Shows - Have You Seen Scary Island? (RHONY Legacy Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

What's up Bro's? With the show schedule being different this week due to the holidays, we decided it was time to dive into RHUGT Legacy. And man, do we have differing opinions. Shooter (historically not a fan of Ultimate Girls Trips) is also not a fan of this season, Steel on the other hand? Thoroughly enjoying it. We recap the most recent episode after a brief review of the season thus far. Sonja and Luann are a treat as always. Dorinda came into the season a little too hot but has seemed to settle in by episode 5. Kelly it turns out is still a little cray and tensions between her and Kristen boil over. Ramona has been pretty quiet compared to her usual self, which begs the question, how much of Ramona's scenes were edited out? We watch the women do a surfing lesson and as usual we love to see some athleticism on these shows. Kristen loses a toe but thank god for the Hot Medic. Then we partake in a little scavenger hunt that's a walk down memory lane as it calls attention to some iconic moments in RHONY history. Then the ladies finish up at dinner where we get a recap of how each of their marriages came about. All in all, this show has been a nice send off for our OG RHONY crew, but could this lead to more? Should it lead to more? Or is it time to put this franchise to an end once and for all after this Ultimate Girls Trip? This episode is brought to you by Bubly Sparkling Water. No Sugar, No artificial sweeteners, All Smiles! Go to Bubly.com to purchase or to find a store near you! Don't forget to buy your tickets to the BravBros Live Show in NYC, January 25th 2023 at the Greenroom 42 in Times Square! Use the link below to purchase your tickets! https://thegreenroom42.venuetix.com/show/details/UrKTMS3NzokPoxNayCTb/1706227200000 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a... Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine.

Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always. by the one and only scutes mcgee what's up dude not a whole lot um this is this is a full on like black hole of a week yeah this is i don't know what day it is i don't care i'm still

working but i'm not working because i'm the only one that's actually not on pto i guess i just didn't get the memo oh nice but that works because nobody's doing anything anyway so i don't waste my pto right like that's the right time to not take off as when everyone else takes off i I just perpetually never check my calendar to see when people are off. So I start sending emails and getting them bounce back. And I'm like, oh, okay, it's just me. You're oof? Yeah, oof, out of office.

How do you know that? Is that it? Yeah. Oof. You like that? Yeah. Which is fun because it's the opposite of an oof. You're out of the office.

You're excited. You're not oofing. No, that's an interesting point. I agree, though. It is like a black hole. You know what I'm having a hard time with is time. Time in general, right? Time is a mystery right now because I'll swear to God, it's like,

p.m. It's four. It's also been raining all week. Like, what the fuck is this? I don't know. I don't know. But you know what? I wore my eagle's shirt and my eagle's hat intentionally because I'm trying to get the vibes back. Yeah, my hat's on. I see your hat. I raise you a shirt because I, I'm still under the guys that we are 11 and 4 and I'm no longer playing the pity party. I'm back on top until they knock us out of the playoffs. We're still in this shit. So I'm changing the narrative. I'm just not talking about them pretty much at all. I'll take that. Yeah. I mean, it used to be exciting watching clips, reading articles,

things like that, and now I just don't even want to be bothered with any of it because it's just so negative and I'm already negative, so I don't need any more negativity. That's good. That's good self- I do actually have, so this week for those of you who celebrate, is the fun college football bowl week. Oh, yeah. Where the random things

pop up, like the mayonnaise bowl, where the guy who... The mayonnaise bowl? Dude, there's, yeah, it's It's either Helmans or Kraft. I forget who does it. But it's a mayonnaise bowl. And at the end, the winning coach gets basically slimed, like on Nickelodeon with Mayo. That's disgusting.

It's so funny. But tonight was the best one that I've ever seen. It was the Pop-Tarts Bowl. Oh, I like that. So at the end, you might not like it after this. At the end of the game, they have a huge stage, and it's a toaster, and a mascot jumps out in a Pop-Tart thing. I still like it. Seems normal.

Yeah, it seems really great. And then he, you know, he waves to the crowd, celebrates a little bit, Kansas State had won. He gets back in the toaster and pops out the other side on the bottom, toasted, and he's an edible mascot. So the team walks over and starts peeling off things and eating it. It was so weird. I don't like that at all. I don't know where the guy went. So, like, there's clearly a guy in the costume.

He was not in there anymore, but it still looked like there was legs in there. So there must have been a different thing that was going on there. But the players coming over and eating it looked like zombies going after someone. It was so bizarre, but it is by far the smartest marketing campaign I've ever seen in my life because everybody's talking about it. That's really gross, though. That reminds me of like the sushi dinner or you eat the food off of a person. Yeah, what's up with that? I don't know.

Would you do that? I don't like sushi, but yeah, I would. Issue is my issue is the sushi. You put chicken fingers. I don't like sushi. Yeah, I would. I think I actually saw that one time where there was like a full appetizer platter. So it was like chicken fingers and fries and stuff

But then there's ketchup on there too And you're kind of dipping in Ketchup on the person? On the person, yeah Where does the ketchup go? The belly button? Gotta be the belly button, right? Gotta put ketchup in the belly button, right?

Or like in the chest area Like where that little like cavity is You can get in there? Thank you for clarifying where on the chest area. Chest cavity? Yeah. On the nipples. I got nipples.

Can you ketchup me, Greg? Oh, that's a stretch, but I'll take it. Yeah. I'll take it. That's a stretch, but I'll take it. But it is the end of the week, which means it is rose and thorn time. But before we get to our rose and thorn,

I've got the rosiest rose of all. And that is that we have our live show, January 25th at the Green Room 42 in New York City Times Square. Tickets are selling fast, which is amazing. It means you guys are out to support. Like I said, it's our first ever solo headlining show. So we need your support. So go to our Instagram.

The link is in the bio. Buy your tickets now. There's going to be fun guests. It's going to be the same format that you guys are used to. like a live taping of the podcast. We're going to be able to show you guys how we do things and interact with you. You can be part of the show even. Yeah, I'm fully in on that.

I love that. That's just going to be a great time. We're going to be able to interact with everyone. You can just ask us questions directly. You might even be able to hear yourself because, wait, are we going to record it? I think we're recording it. Okay. All right.

I didn't even think about that. And we are currently talking about live streaming. That is not a thing yet, but hopefully we can figure it out by the. the time the show is running. Yes, hopefully. Yeah, hopefully by the time. Ideally, before the show starts, we hope to have figured out the live streaming, but as of right now, it's not an option.

So if you want to see the bros, you've got to show up. Green Room 42, New York City, Times Square, January 25th. It's a Thursday night. Come hang out with us. That's a clean plug. Clean. We like to see. Clean, shiny plugs.

But that takes us to the Rose and Thorn. So let's get Rosie and Thorny. Baby, why don't you start us off there, champ? So my thorn, to start off with, is not really a thorn. It's actually a really nice comment. Okay. But I'm upset, and I take objection to it. Okay.

That's how thorns work, I think. This one was, it was off of YouTube from Sabrina Craig 8124. She said that she had a dream about us after watching our video last week, and that's so nice. In the video, we were in Western Australia. Oh, interesting. And you, Steele, wanted to go take. pictures with the quokas it's a quaka but yeah quaka i thought it's a coca so steel wanted to go take pictures with the quokas and he couldn't take or he wanted to take a selfie without getting bitten

my qualm with that is i am probably the guy who would want to take the pictures with the quokas do you not remember me telling the story of me on rottenest island picking up a quaka drunk and getting bit no i don't remember i do remember most of your stories i don't remember that one okay So there's some context. I really must have told this story on the podcast. So that's my thorn. My thorn is that I felt left out of the two of us, I'm probably the guy that wants to take pictures with the quackas.

I did, and I got bit. I picked it up like an idiot. I told you this story. And then the dude, because you're not supposed to pick him up like a baby, but I did learn how to pick him up. I have a picture of it. I can even show you. You pick them up by the tail, and then they can't bite you.

But they're really cute, and I got drunk, and I picked one up like a baby, and it bit me on the finger. And then the next day, I went to somebody that works on the island. then he was the most like Aussie dude you've ever seen The blonde locks He's got like the viper shades

Like the big ones And he's wearing like a yellow tank top He's shredded And I walk up to this man And I'm like hey dude Got a little tipsy last night And I picked up a quacka And it bit me

And I showed him my finger Because it did break the skin Yeah I was like Should I go get like a shot Or stitches or something Verbatim this man says to me Oh I quit being such a pussy

Might you'll be fine And are you? I don't know It might have some residual effects. I took a couple of years off. But nothing will emasculate you more than Captain Australia telling you're a bitch. And that's what he did. Yeah, all right.

I mean, that's a good way to go, though. But now I'm questioning whether I told this story in the podcast or not. Maybe this person just knows more about me, and that freaks me out. That's a good point. That's my thorn. Yeah, because I didn't remember that story at all. And that is verbatim what you had said. Ewe.

Creepy. Creepy. Whoever this is, if you listen to the podcast, Can you, Sabrina, can you reach out and let me know if you've heard this story before or if that dream was just a dream and that if she was prefaced as being a dream. I completely forgot about all of that. But what if she hasn't heard the story and just had a dream about something that actually happened in my life? You might have a special power. Sabrina, you need to reach out or else I'm not going to be able to sleep now.

Sabrina might have special powers. Is Sabrina Eagle Woman? She could be. But is she having dreams about things that already happened kind of takes it away? Like if you have a future dream. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, it's not the best superpower to have. Years later, you just have a weird memory about somebody that you don't know getting bit by a quaka.

Yeah, I don't think that's conducive to a superpower, but it's a cool party. Look, I mean, it's baby steps, right? If we're going to go through evolution and we're going to start getting special powers, we're just in the early stages. Sabrina's just out there. It's a great superpower. Working the king's out. But maybe, like, down the line generationally, somebody will have a future. Sabrina's great grandchildren will have.

Suithsayer. Psychic powers. Yeah. Future psychics. kickbowers. Sabrina, please let us know. Yeah, Sabrina, please reach out. We need to talk to you. My Rose was

from a review from Jake Wisdom. Great show. Great dudes. Love that. Not only is the content great, but these two dudes are out here breaking down toxic masculinity in countless ways. They are emotionally mature, thoughtful, and aren't afraid to say that they would

smash Idraselba. We would. As a guy raised in rural Midwest, it is refreshing to listen to. I love that one because I love the fact that we talked about smashing Idraselba of course. I mean, you can't look at Idisilba and not anybody that denies

that they would smash with Idraselba. Yeah, you need to look inward. Yeah, you need to look inward because you are not comfortable with yourself because you're lying to yourself. That's a good point. Not only is he striking, but that accent, get out of here. Get out of it. Forget about it. Bricked up. Bricked up. My Rosen Thorn goes as follows. Here's my

thorn. And you could argue this is a Rosie Thorne because I went back and forth of this person for a very long time. I'd never got aggressive. I don't see this. What did you do? I never got aggressive. Okay.

I was very sarcastic, but not aggressive. So this comes from YouTube, and it's from at Richie B. And the first comment was the opening banter is getting silly. Please stop and get into the show quicker. And I said, ha-ha, well, we appreciate your candor. No.

They go on to reply. You're going to like this one. I don't even want to read this because you haven't read it. But here you go. Here's a gift to you. For Richie B, at Browbrose podcast. I know you guys are celebrities

and your lives are so interesting now. But when I referred people to this podcast and they hear you guys going on about your weekends, they turn it off because they don't know you and they don't give a shit. That makes no sense. And go on, Richie. Yeah.

So, FYI, church announcements always come at the end of service. Because that's what we're comparable to is church. Church. Yeah. Welcome to the church. Church of the Broad Brothers. If you've heard us talk about the Mormon church, but clearly we don't know a whole lot.

And we're not big churchers. Yeah. But the next part of this, and then I'll wrap it up, I just said, this has been our format forever and we'll continue to be. If we're not everyone's cup of tea, that's okay. But thank you for the support and for your opinions. Richie B. did finish it up with, I love you guys. All I'm saying is 20 minutes of small talk before the video is too long.

We've never done 20 minutes of small talk, but at least you love us. Yeah. We have definitely done 20 minutes of small talk. but like we're not we're not going down anytime that we do that long of small talk it's not us talking about our weekends it's never going down a very random path like who's this talking about like who's this yeah like that's just good entertainment you don't want to enjoy that you don't want to have a laugh with the boys what are you doing speed through it yeah who's is christ dude relax nice but my rose is from youtube as well and it's from amy went and it says you guys are my absolute favorite guys to watch i can't tell you how much you brighten my year and i'm loving this journey all are on. I love your banter and I'm looking forward to another great year watching your show. Cheers. I love this one because it sets us up for the next year. She's clearly been along for this crazy ride we've been on. And you know what? As we're wrapping, this is our last

episode of 2023. Boo. I guess. I don't know why that matters. Tell me what day it is. I don't care. But with that being said, what a fucking year, dude. We got a lot of crazy things coming up. just be on the lookout for the pros. That's the craziest part is you have no idea what January is about to look like. That's my favorite steelism of all time, though. We got to just keep a lookout on our social. Because I can't say anything. And it drives me crazy.

But it probably drives other people crazy, too, because you're not telling them anything. You're just like, just be on lookout. Well, there's one thing that I can't talk about that we don't even know about yet. That would be really cool. Yeah, because we can't hear back until after the holidays, which again says to me that this week is meaningless. Who cares? This week is a lot. But hey, make sure you pay attention to our socials coming out because we got a lot of cool shit on the horizon.

You thought last year was big? Wait until 2020. Really crazy week for the bros. Yeah, it's been a wild two weeks for the bros. And let me tell you, pay attention to them, socials. And while you're at it, buy a ticket. Yeah, and also, yeah, buy a ticket. Why not?

But because this week's a little bit different as far as what's airing right now, we are going to change things up. So this first episode, we're actually going to cover Ultimate Girlstrip. Everyone's been pining for it. We finally sat down and watched it. We got through all five. So we're up to speed. We're going to recap that. And then our second episode for this Friday, we would be doing Miami.

So you still get your two Eps. We're just changing up the docket, if you will. Welcome to Miami. Obenito, Omi, bien, bien, but it always sounds like Obenito. Obenito. It's Bienvenito. I know that. Okay.

But every time I heard it when I was growing up, it was Obanito, O'Meami. which is not correct. It's not correct. Biennito, Amiami. Yeah. There you go. Welcome to Miami. Yep.

Good job. Spanish. I know, night on the heat is on a night on the beach of the break of dawn. I'm going to Miami. Welcome to Miami. Oh, Benito. Will Smith is from Philly. Can we talk about the shows now?

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We've gotten everything squared away. We know what we're talking about today. Let's start out with Little Ultimate Girlstrip, because we ran through all five episodes. We're only going to recap the most recent one this time. But we, I know for a fact, we have conflicting opinions on this. Because first and foremost, you're not the biggest Ultimate Girl's Trip fan across the board. And second, we've talked about a little bit, so I know where he's done. But why don't you fill our listeners in as to your stance on the...

So, I mean, I know it's going to pop up anyway, and I know that our friend Lowe's is probably going to reach out. I'm surprised he didn't reach out to me directly to see how I feel about it. but um yeah it sucks because this is what i wanted from ultimate girl's trip i said send people that know each other so that we don't have those first two three episodes because they always make them way too long of getting to know each other and then like here's what i heard about you through the press and all that bullshit so that's usually why i don't like ultimate girl's trip because i feel like it's a nothing show and it's just kind of a toss away this is all right let's get the band back together and see how it goes this show is so boring oh really it's so goddamn boring they're

just talking about like, look, aside from Luann and Sonia, who we love, and like, Crapy Lake was a roaring success as far as I'm concerned. I thought that was one of the best shows that they put out this year. It's creative. It's fun. Those two have, I don't even want to say that they've kind of like tamed a little bit because they're still themselves. They just had great chemistry. They just have great chemistry and they're fun the whole time and that's what we want to watch. We don't want the dumb bullshit. This show now is just, hey, let's talk about what happened 10 years ago and bring it up and then Bravo plugs, you know, scary island

50 fucking times over the first five episodes. You're like, okay, it's enough. It's just not, it's a bunch of women aside from Sonia and Luann who are still having a great time that are just trying to like get back on the camera and talk about how, you know, their lives were a success and you've got Dorinda just like debating whether or not she was paused and she's still stuck in that phase

where she says that she wasn't actually fired. She was just paused because Andy told her that. and other people are questioning it. I just don't get it. And maybe it's because I didn't love the old Roney. I felt like that was kind of timed out. And, yeah, 10 years ago, it was great. But now it's just not.

And we looked at this as a, all right, ride off into the sunset, have some fun. We get one last hurrah with our girls before, you know, we don't really have to see them again. And instead, we're just getting drummed up news about them wanting to get back on Roney and them wanting to merge the cast with the new cast. Like, no, go away.

We're done with you. So I'm enjoying. But I think the issue you're having is for most people that are watching this show, they loved Roney. So this is a walkdown memory lane for them. And it is a chance to rehash some old stories, some old drama. So they're enjoying it. That's why everyone asked us a million questions about the Scary Island episode. Have you guys watched Scary Island?

We've gotten that question a thousand times since Ultimate Girl's trip started. So I think that through your lens, I could understand why you're a little bored and a little bit tired of it. sure, through the lens of, let's say, Dev, who's really enjoying it, I understand the pull. I do understand it. It's just that's how I feel about it. I feel like it's kind of useless. Well, I just, what I don't want it to be is an audition tape for Roney. Right.

You know what I mean? I don't want it to be. If it's a walk-down memory lane and we talk about all the shit that they went through over the years, that's exactly what a sail off into the sunset is, shooter. That's their chance to talk about things. If they did it in the right way. Do you think they're doing that in the right way, though? No, but they're still arguing about dumb shit that happened 10 years ago.

Which is quintessential housewives. They can't get over shit. You've had 10 years to prepare your argument for this, and you go into it with nothing. Like Dorinda watching Scary Island on her phone in the bathroom, while kind of funny, is kind of stupid. I think that's a great move. I see, I think you're looking at it through. You know how I watched Southern Charm wrong? Yeah.

I think you're watching this wrong. Well, maybe it's just the fact that I have. had to watch five straight episodes of it. That could be it. So, because I hadn't watched, there's just too much content out there for us to watch, so I didn't get a chance to really just sit down and watch it episode by episode. Maybe I would have enjoyed it a little bit more if I got 40 minutes at a time. But I had five straight hours of this show.

So, yeah, I think I'm just done right now. I really, I really hope that our listeners love this show and they just tear you a new asshole. I think that I'm going to open some eyes out there. Oh, wow, you're going to, you're a trend center. There's no way that people are enjoying the argument between, Kelly and Kristen like that's just not Kelly sucks are you team Kelly or team Kristen Kristen Kelly sucks

Kelly is still Kelly though like I've seen some old episodes but at least she's consistent I guess and like that's the thing people watching this show Kelly's nuts but it's entertaining I think it's entertaining when she was whipping the towel around saying superwoman well Kristen's getting her toenail cut off

Luanne's trying to understand what the fuck Kelly's doing the girls this is my thing and I don't understand it, and we're going to talk about it when we start recapping this episode. I feel like any time there's a male present, they all think he's the hottest guy in the world. Like, I'm not saying that that medic was an handsome man, you know, and he's got like the burly aspect to him, sure. But like every time that they're helped by a man, like third party member, he's apparently smoking hot and they all want to hook up with him. I guess.

I will say that this, I feel like this is better than Ultimate Girl's Trip and Blue Stone Matter. Way better. Way better. But that's because you don't have Dorinda. And she came in hot. She came in ready to do the same thing where she was, like, leading the charge. She has pulled back in the past, like, two or three episodes. Do you think that's actually Derinda pulling back?

Or do you think that editing and production realized that she was kind of annoying and just pulled back on her? Probably that. Probably that, which leads me to my next question. Do you think that they edited around Ramona? Yes. Absolutely. Because there's a lot of people out there that are saying that she seems tame and controlled. I don't think that that's what happened.

I think there's no way. There's no world in which Ramona is tame and controlled all the time. I do agree that when she's on the screen, she seems pretty normal, but there's got to be more to it. And she's just not on enough for me to be convinced that she was just kind of wandering around and going through the motions whole time. But we just, we know what to look for when it comes to Ramona. We know the certain pitfalls that she's had in the past.

And if we're going off of bias as far as looking at all the other women doing the same shit they used to do. They really haven't evolved past, like, the same shenanigans. Right. If that's true for everybody else, that would also ring true for Ramona. So I'm going with the law of averages here where I think that if everyone else is doing their same thing, she's probably doing the same thing as well. But to not add fuel to the fire, I bet that Bravo for two reasons.

One, maybe to protect Ramona, but two and much bigger of it is to protect themselves because they need to show her, you can't not have Ramona on screen for this. Sure. I mean, she was there the whole time. Right. And, like, the only other option is canceling it. And I guarantee they paid these women a shit ton of money to do this show. And there's no way they can scrap it.

So they definitely cut her out of a lot of stuff. Yeah. I'd be surprised if she's the center of any major argument. I can't. Maybe she was in that that's what they scrubbed. Because we do know that they pushed this back by, like, a full month to redo a lot of things after the Ramona News came out. So, I mean, it makes sense, logically, that they would have scrubbed a lot of the things that she was involved in. but I mean that goes to say what do you think that she was doing down there like what kind of arguments do you think she was getting in like what do you think that she was the focal point of that they would want to scrub that like I don't really see the use in that if like unless she did what she did in the press no and then just like double down while she was on the trip which would be fucking nuts that would be that wouldn't that shouldn't be in TV to begin with but it shouldn't but it should not but I don't know I don't really see the use in having her the whole time like you paid her already

might as well just keep the information in the clips all in there i don't really see the use in scrubbing it i i hear you there but at the same time it's like i don't know i feel like if you get too much romano on there being an asshole and being ridiculous then you're going to run the risk of people being like why is bravo giving her the spotlight correct yeah like it's not the right time she just did something dumb you invited her to the premiere which is weird you shouldn't have done that now she's on tv a bunch so i'd imagine that they are smarter than that which is maybe giving them too much credit but uh let's jump into the episode episode a little bit. And we start out. We got Dorinda. She's working out. And Kelly's working out. You get Luann and Ramona and Sonia and they're getting ready. And poor Martin, poor, poor any assistant that has to work on any ultimate girl's trip. He's just trying to go through the itinerary. That's all he's trying to do. Just this is where you need to be and when. And Ramona cannot pay attention. And this is when I, like, there are a lot of things in the show I'm enjoying in seeing some of these women back on screen. That kind of shit. I hate. And I'm, like, reminded, like, this is the stuff that got annoying to me.

Just, like, pay attention. This isn't fun. Yeah. I mean, at least they're not doing what they did to the butler in Bluestone, where they're, like, groping him and trying to get him to take his shirt off and things like that. Which ended up in a lawsuit. Yeah. They are just, you know, for the most part or lack of a better term, I fucking every single guy that comes into the room, whether it's a guy that works in the house or like the first episode where, what's his name, John Pierre or something, who was the same cook that they had 10 years ago when they went back to this,

What's it called the Dunes, I think, is the name of the place? I believe in St. Bartz. Yeah, and it's the same chef that they had. So, like, he was excited to see them. They were excited to see him. It has a better feel, but I do agree with you. Like, that's the type of thing that bothers me. I'm like, I'm hanging out.

Yeah, here we go again. Here we go again. But we did get a little surf lesson, which we love to see athleticism on this show. Yeah. It went about how I thought it would. And the people that were good at it were the people I assumed would be good at it. And the people that were not. Although, I will give props to Dorenda.

I didn't expect her to be able to get up on the board. I didn't expect her to even try to go out there. She didn't hesitate. Yeah. She was first party in and she got up, but she looked good out there. Good job, Dorenda. Kelly Ben Simone could do it. Luanne could do it.

No surprise. Everybody else. And I knew that Kristen would suck because Kristen was talking about it the most. Yep. Anytime they're like, oh, I've done this before. I'm like, oh, you're going to eat shit. Yeah. And everybody watched.

Yeah. That's a spectacle that we always look forward to with that lyrics. But without fail, something wild happens. And now we get a little surgery on the beach, a little toe surgery, which I, I don't know. A lot of things don't gross me out, but like seeing a toenail peeled back like that, like it just. It's a form of torture. Well, they didn't Guantanamo Bay, peeling those nails off. Sure, if you want to take it to that level.

Why not? Let's talk about Guantanamo Bay. I don't. What do you have to say about that, Dick Cheney? Bad. Yeah, bad. It was bad. It was really bad, really bad situation.

Why? We're talking about Guantanamo. I don't know. Henry Kissinger still on my mind, so. Jesus Christ. What an episode so far. But the next thing we need to discuss is the love letters for Kelly. Yeah.

Because my God. First and foremost, that's too many love letters. It's a sweet sentiment, I guess. How long are they gone for a week? I think. Ooh, maybe. No, I think it's a full week. I think it's seven days.

Why do you have to tell her that, like, every day? Like, I love you. I miss your breath. I miss your touch. I miss your feel. I miss your essence. It's just fucking weird, man. Sign Scott.

Your little Scott, Your little Scottrick. Yours truly. And then he sprays a little cologne on there. I guarantee there's a lot on those. There's definitely clone on those. It's like the male version of putting like a, putting lipstick on and kissing it. That's it.

Yeah. But you know, the weirder part to me is reading it. Those are personal. I know what she's doing. She's just trying to flex for everybody else there and for the audience. I'm like, look how much love I'm in. What she's trying to do is because they do get into that whole altercation with Kristen, whose husband was on Ashley Madison earlier in the first couple episodes they start talking about,

like, was he cheating on you? Like, how did you get back into it? And like, she's trying to just defend her marriage. She's like, you know, we work through it. Kelly had a big problem with that. So I think this is part of that. I think this is Kelly saying, oh, yeah, look at this. Like, I'm getting love letters and this is all a lot of fun.

And it's just for Kristen's show, just to show Kristen. Like, hey, you know, you've got a husband that cheated on you and went on Ashley Madison. I've got a guy that's sending me love letters with a clone on it. Every day. Yeah, it's fucking nuts. Like, he's cheating probably. He's probably cheating on you while you're away. He used a burner account on Ashley Madison. That's why I didn't get caught.

But they did have a really fun scavenger hunt. That was a good time. I enjoyed watching that. I love the air. More scavenger hunts. I like that. I am a big scavenger hunt fan. This is the second one we've seen in the past few weeks.

It goes well. First one wasn't really a scavenger hunt on Miami. No, it was an activity. This is a team-building event. That was a team-building exercise, which you are normally not keen on, so... It worked. Hey, look at you. I'm only a keen on it because it worked.

You're... You're... I'm stuck on your... You're coming around to team-building exercises. I am. I team-built exercise to you without you even knowing it. How about that? No, I don't feel closer to you.

Yeah, well, you may be, you know. The one question I have, though, about the scavenger hunt, if Dorenda set it up, why didn't she win? Does she set it up, right? She said she set it up, but didn't want to be in charge of it like she was at Bluestone? I'm confused.

Or did the poor Butler, Martin, have to set this whole thing up? I mean, Martin probably set it up. Production definitely helped because it's very personal questions, but I feel like Derinda probably wrote those. I don't know, though, because as weird as it is,

and after seeing Durinda and Bluestone, I don't get a vibe from her that she would set it up so that she would win. I almost get like a, she wanted to set it up since she got the credit for it. She's okay with not winning

because that's enough for her, which is nice. And I think it's a good sentiment. It's fun for everybody else. If that's what happened. If that's what happened. But we get to dinner, and I always wonder who wears fedoras, like, seriously. And I guess the waiters in St. Barts, because that dude rolled up. And I was like, this would be a fedora time.

Like, he definitely put that. I wonder if that's part of the uniform. That's my next question. No. You don't think so? No. I don't think so. So that's a choice.

I think that's a stylistic choice. Kind of like butterflies. What? Kind of like butterflies. What do you mean like butterflies? I mean like Ramona's butterflies. Oh my God. Do you talk about Ramona's butterflies?

How did you feel about that? I didn't like it. But you watched it and you probably thought like our shooter's not going to like this. I knew you weren't going to like it. I actually didn't, I thought it was a clumsy way to get there, like her storytelling and then someone else finished the story for almost, which was funny. It's a sweet sentiment. I guess. I couldn't, I didn't understand it.

That's the thing. Like, I didn't follow. It's not to follow. I didn't follow anything that she was saying. When Ramona was talking, actually, a lot of times when Ramona talks, I kind of zone out. Which is fair. I didn't for this because I was curious about the fact why she has 15 butterflies on. I'll break it down for you.

So she's saying that when a butterfly is in the cocoon, obviously, and working itself out, somebody was watching the butterflies hatch. And they went over there because they were tired of watching the butterfly struggle to get out of the cocoon so they cut it open for the butterfly in doing so actually detrimental to the butterfly because as the butterfly is trying to fight and scratch and claw its way out of the cocoon it's strengthening its legs and its body which makes it ready to crawl out of the cocoon so once it's out it's strong enough to live and survive in the environment makes sense by cutting it out you are eliminating the process of building muscle for the butterfly so the butterfly is not prepared to be

in the world the butterfly then dies gotcha so what she is she's saying is them as women go through a similar thing where they have to fight, scratch, and claw through their life to get ahead because they have to start behind. And by doing so, it makes them stronger, more capable, and ready to take on the world. Okay, that is way more succinct and makes sense to me. Because I'm not Ramona. Because you're not Ramona. Correct.

I paid attention when you talked. That's a big difference for me. That's a really big difference. I can't stress that enough. But they do start going through their love stories about their original marriages, pretty much what the marriages that made them housewives, right? And I didn't know about a lot of these. So, like, the Gilles one was interesting.

Yep. I don't know if I believe that story where the ring cut her finger because it was laid so low. Like, that just makes it sound like you're trying to brag about the diamond. That's exactly what that was. Dorinda, not in a million years that I expect that story. I haven't heard that story from Duranda before. You did? No, I didn't.

Oh, I haven't either. I had no idea. That gave me so much more respect for Durinda. Isn't that weird? And then the Sonia one, I don't know what she said. I don't know what happened. I don't know where she met the man. I don't know how they got married.

It got so convoluted. And then it points to something that we have seen from Sonia many times over the years. And that's embellishing stories and like making it up. But her problem when she starts going down these tirades, she just keeps going. Yeah. And I think that she had told this story on Crappy Lake, too. I think so. Maybe.

At some point they were. story. Not the full story, but she had referenced her husband that got her on the show, essentially, if you want to call it that. And it was a little different than what she talked about in this episode. So I'm like, this is different. This is not what you said already. You've changed.

So now I don't know what's true. I think the biggest question after, you know, wrapping this up is, would you, do you, could you see any of these women back on a full-time role, whether it's Roney or some other facet of Bravo where they find a niche for these ladies to continue to be on TV. No one but Sonia and Luam. That's it. That's it. That's like, that's all I have. I mean, it's, we've

seen Dorenda try. She's not moving past the pausing. Okay. That's a huge thing for her. But she's also, she tried way too hard in Bluest no matter. She's better now. But she didn't find that groove where she's not annoying but she is entertaining.

She's a little more mellow, at least at this point. You know, in the beginning of the season, the first couple episodes of this. She was her same annoying self that she wasn't blue stone where she was trying to take command and she was talking about the pausing thing and it's such bullshit.

Now she's kind of mellowed out but she's not that entertaining. So I don't see her anywhere. Kelly... Kelly's too erratic to be able. She's erratic, but oddly enough I could see her somewhere doing something because she does deliver.

I mean, she's fucking nuts. She's so out there and she will pick a fight with anyone. Over anything. Like there's no reason for her to get. She was going to after Kelly, or she was going after Kristen because Kristen was talking, which is, I'm okay

with this, and I know a lot of people are going to talk about this. Kristen brought up being a fan of the show. So she remembered which season they went to different places and even better than the women who lived it were on the show talking about different trips that they were on. She's like, no, you stayed in the house, not in like an Airbnb or

not in a hotel. She went deep into it. Kelly's issue with Kristen was, well, you're just a fan of the show. And like, she is a fan of the show. It's not like a derogatory way to say that, Kelly was making it derogatory. I don't really think that that's a big issue. She's kind of excited to be there. But I don't know.

Kelly, I could see in some sort of role somewhere. Some kind of capacity. My thing real quick, before I forget about it, with the whole, like, she was a fan of the show, this and that, this and that. I hate that argument. Anytime anybody brings it up on any show, well, she just did this to get on the show.

She just did this because she had a Twitter account, blah, blah, blah. So what? If you think that anybody on these shows after the first four years of them airing, and I'm talking about Bravo in general, after the first four seasons of Housewives, period, if you think any of these women on the show

or any of the dudes that are cast on any of the other shows, we're not watching, we're not following, we're not paying attention to all of this and wanting to be on the show, you're nuts. I think Kelly should be grateful that Kristen watch the show. There's a reason why you had a job in the first place.

It's because of people at Kristen. Be happy that she liked that. Like, Kristen was excited going into it. She wanted to know about everybody. she was only on the show for one season so she wants to know how everybody's doing she wants to reminisce with the rest of them because she watched it and that's what Bravo fans

do we watch these shows we enjoy these shows and we feel like we're part of it so even when you and I talk to somebody and we're talking about a specific moment during a show or whatever trip that they were on we feel like we were there with them so we get to ask them questions that are a little more intrusive because we watched it on TV

don't knock them down a peg just because they enjoyed the fucking show if there was no Kelly or if there was no Christians out there Kelly wouldn't have a job. Well said. Stupid. And I just think it's dumb that you get mad that people watch this before being on it. Like, what do you expect?

This isn't even part. This isn't Rony. This is legacy. This is legacy. And she was already on the show. A while ago. Yeah. Get over.

She's referencing seasons that were after she was done. You should be happy because she left the show and she wasn't scorn so bad. Continued to support. You continued to support and watch. So shut up, Kelly. Yeah, enough. I think I can see a world in which Durinda comes back, honestly. And I think, and here's my.

my question for you. My question for you, having seen Dorinda mellow out a few episodes in, or at least production cut it that way, but regardless, is she overpressing every time we see her on screen now because she's constantly vying for a spot back? And if she had that spot, could she settle back into the Dorinda? Obviously not the same Durinda that we fell in love with like years ago when she was in her like peak housewives mode like delivering every episode we know how it got towards the end it was a little too much having been off of the show now having time to reflect if she was given a full time position again and not having to worry about defending that she was paused not having to worry about getting a job again would we get more out

of her in a positive way maybe but you need to tell me what that role is she can't be on a housewife show. Let's say Roney Legacy comes back as a full-time show. Nobody's going to watch that. You don't think so? No, there's a reason why Roney got canceled in the first place. That's my argument all the time. I know. I agree. Like, nobody's going, they might watch it. They're going to watch this. They're going to look at the

this is what I'm scared of. They'll look at the numbers for Roney Legacy for this trip and say, whoa, look at all these people still watching it. They're not going to factor in that people are watching it because we want to give them a send-off. We want to enjoy one last ride down the road or whatever you have.

And then move on. We don't want them anymore. You can't just look at this and be like, oh, let's do this every single year because that's going to get really tiring. I think Dorenda could find a role in some sort of,

I feel like she's a good host. Like not host at Bluestone Manor for the love of God. A host for like a one-off show. Like maybe you do something that's sort of adjacent to like watch what happens live and you could have, or have like a Bravo sponsored podcast

and put Dorenda on there. No, because again, you're giving her too much power and when you do that you get boost on manner durenda you need to have her as a complimenting role to a cast of character she can't stand alone or else i don't i don't i see i see i think that this is not the last time that we've heard from roney legacy in some capacity whether they run this same crew back every year for an ultimate girl's trip with just this group i could see that why don't they do like sonia and luan go to like we talked about before go to different places and do what they did in Crapy Lake,

and then every year you have a new member of the Roney, the legacy cast, come with them. Because I don't... Throw in Durinda for a couple weeks. I agree with you that could work. I don't think that anybody else fits into that mold. Will there be as agreeable as Sonia and Luann were during the crappy leg? That was the thing that took me.

They have to be. I understand that, but I don't see Durinda bending the knee like that. Whereas Sony and Luan are they, the fact that they were so... go with the flow during Crappy Lake was so impressive to me. And, like, that made me fall in love with those through. They could do no wrong because of how cool they were in town. I don't see Dorinda having that same thing.

I don't see Kelly having that. I don't see Kirsten having that. No, definitely not Kelly. I don't see that crew having that kind of mindset in that situation. No, yeah. I don't see Durinda popping back up. Here's what I posit for you, okay, and just take it with a grain of salt and don't just knock it down because you don't want to see the Rony Legacy Group.

Could you see this working? If they have a Roney Legacy cast and they have an old school Rony cast and at some point they start to blur the lines where they're two standalone shows but maybe you get them interact a little bit you have two shows going on at once in New York City and you get two different generations almost

where you get our crew, the younger crew, doing their thing and seeing that and then you also get to check in with the legacy crew which maybe all their antics won't get old and won't get annoying now because you have a different thing to watch in the same realm. Could that work, I guess, is my question.

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Not right now. Okay, how about a Miami pause for five, let's say four years pause? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. We need the new Roney cast to be solidified. Like, get them through the kinks. They have to go through the first two seasons. You have to figure out who is going to stay, who's going to go, because we already have some questions on that.

Once they're good and people enjoy them. then you can start to throw around like Rony Legacy and then like it might be every other year we just check in I'd rather see them in New York because again

these trips are stupid these trips are very dumb I do not care about these I'd rather see them in their habitat You know what they should have done for Roney legacy what? It's just done Roney for a month

Yeah why not With that cast And then you don't have to send them on a trip They're so obsessed And this is a problem And like I get it Like every fucking housewife Every season there's always a big trip

And that's where most of the drama happens because you have them together in a house. The ultimate girl's trip doesn't work because this is all they have. There's nothing for them to carry into. It's a standalone thing. There's no drama that happens in New York that they're bringing from New York down to St. Bartz. Oh, I see what you're saying.

And any drama that happens there is irrelevant because after five days, it doesn't matter. Exactly. They're going home to their loved ones and they don't have to worry about it. That's a problem. Okay. So, yes, put them in their own place, have them walk around because people do want to check in. Like, I do understand that. people love this cast and they want to see what they're up to so yeah maybe every other year or

you know just do like six or seven episodes a year of them just kind of around new york hanging out doing their thing and you'll get the normal drama that usually comes with that and i think there's going to be a lot less pressure on them and i agree with you put them on pause for a couple of years i don't want to throw the word pause around because durin is going to get upset but put them on pause for a couple of years like you did for miami let the new rony cast kind of thrive and people get to enjoy that because if you do it now then all those haters are going to say, oh, we've got the Rony Legacy back.

You know why they brought them back? It's because the new cast sucks. It was one season, relax. Like, that's going to be really annoying. But yeah, give it a couple years. You're going to want to check in with them. I think, okay, here's my amendment. And I think that this is how it should go.

And I think this might actually work. So, Bravo, pay attention. After season three of new Roney, like you said, everyone's got their feet wet. We've gotten rid of a couple cast members. We've gotten some new people in. we've kind of hit our stride with new Roney. Yeah.

After the third season announced that the old cast is coming back, and that is called Roney Legacy, and it'll stand alone, and then you give the Rony Newbies their thing. And the first season of Rony Legacy is seven episodes with a reunion to make it eight, see how it goes, and go from there. And then you want to see some mixing in of, like, Brin or Jessel or whoever. I think it would be an interesting dynamic. I think that I do like that.

I just don't like it this soon, and people are already kind of like pining for that. talking about, like, bringing back, like, have Sonia show them the ropes. It's like, what ropes? I don't want that's the, and I agree with you. And I don't want this new crew learning the ropes from the OG crew because I don't want the same, well, I don't want to see the same shit. No, I don't want to see the same shit, but I also don't know what the dynamic is. Because honestly, if I'm the new Roneycast, I don't really want to associate with the older Roneycast because that's going to muddy the waters and it's going to make people upset. And if I'm the old Ronycast, I definitely don't like the new Ronycast because they're, they took a guard, yeah.

jobs. So yeah, give it a couple of years, but if you can find some sort of friendships in there, maybe some like mentorships, even if you will, and somebody can like bury their pride, then yeah, I wouldn't mind a little bit of a crossover here and there when they're going out to dinner and you've got like half, half of the cast and half of the other cast all kind of together. That could be fun because then you might get the people that love the legacy cast get to see the new cast in a different light instead of just hating on them because they're not the old cast. I really hope Bravo is paying attention to this. This is the plan. This is the way.

Sorry, we're going to get a job. We're, I hope that this becomes our job. Let's not add jobs to the mix. But, uh, more jobs. More jobs. But that takes us to the question portion of the show.

So up first from, oh, this one will head home for you from, I don't know if it's an I or an L, but El Beanie underscore E or I-Beanie underscore E, I don't know. Thoughts on how thirsty the women are. Shoots. Not as thirsty as I.

I thought, surprisingly. Wow. Mostly because I expected Durinda to be just as thirsty as Bluestone. She's not. Kelly's really the only one that's Kelly and Lou, or,

Kelly and Ramona are the only two that are like actively annoying me with what they're doing. The rest of them are fine. Fair enough. From exactly, is Kelly Gaslighting Kristen

because she's jealous of her? I don't know. I have no idea what Kelly's doing. Maybe. from Crystal Leanne is Kelly gaslighting everyone or do we just think she is actual bat shit crazy it might be the latter honestly from K Graz is Kelly nuts

yes yes she is go on come on from DAC attack yes is Kelly insane yes any more no damn that was a good run nice job everybody the last one

and then I'll do an extra one for this idiot but the last real question is from Lady Katie Hair and it's power rankings for the Roney Legacy women thus far uh Luann Sonia

Kristen Ramona Kelly are missing someone Derinda Durinda Durinda before Christening. Or, yeah, Durinda before Ramona and Kelly. Okay.

I'm going to go with Sonia and Luann are one. I see them together. Yeah, they're number one. Number two, I'm going with Kelly. No, sorry. Uh, Kristen. No, it's too high. Too high.

It's too high. Kristen's three. Derinda's four. Ramona's five. Kelly's six. Who's two? Nobody. That actually works, though.

It's a drop off? No, no, no, it works, though, because one and one at a time. So if you skip the two, go to the three. Boom. Golf. That's how they do. That is golf leader. Yeah, that's a golf leader board.

Suck it, nerd. But the last thing is from Outdoor Lowe's because, of course, he had to chime in. And the first half of the question is, Shooter, are you hating this season more or less than season two? I assume he's talking about Bluestone matter. I'm hating it less. Number two from Dorlos, Out Doorlos. Steele, how often would you have thrown your notebook had Bethany been on this?

And Lose, my notebook would be firmly lodged in my TV screen right now because I wouldn't be able to stand it. Or we wouldn't be talking about this right now. That's actually more. We probably just wouldn't have watched it. I would not do anything. That's why you haven't seen any posts about Bethany. You haven't heard of talking about Bethany. We're not giving it any life.

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