Bros & Shows - High Body Count Bat Mitvah (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

What's up Bros? This weeks RHOSLC was one of the best housewives episodes in a very long time. It had everything. Drama, laughs, sentimental moments, arguments, make ups, you name it, we watched it. Its Meredith's Bat Mitvah and the whole crew is invited. Bronwyn still has issues with Whitney and Angie, Meredith still has an issue with Angie and Mary, Heather is still skeptical of Bronwyn, tensions are at an all time high. Mary arrives late, which made for one of the funnier moments we've seen in awhile as she tries to figure out how to get in. Her and Meredith end up making up, which made us happy because Mary needs support right now. Bronwyn and Angie have a conversation but it's quite clear that Bronwyn has hit her limit. No longer calm, cool and collected she presses Angie for an apology and things devolve quickly. Britani claims that Angie K. was slut shaming her saying she "slept with 10 guys" (Angie said 3.... Britani said 10...) and decides to throw some shade implying that Angie is the one sleeping around on Shawn... They get into it and we get a new iconic line, high body count hair. They are completely at odds with one another and Meredith decides to step in and give Angie the boot via security. We cant tell you how happy we are that Bravo production took our advice and started implementing security at all of these parties. Heather lets Whitney know she isnt upset with her after Bronwyn let Heather know Whitney was talking some smack. But its obvious Heather just doesnt want to give Bronwyn the satisfaction. The real star of this episode is Angie K. and she makes it clear why she is center snowflake, but watching Bronwyn get down in the dirt was a blast as well. 10/10 no notes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good afternoon, everybody. And welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. A.K.A. Bros. and shows. I'm your co-host, Steel Russell. joined as always by the one and only the governor, Maguda.

What's happened? That's a great one. Oh, I'm so happy you waited. It's our last episode filming this week. We made it, guys. We made it, guys. And you don't have to feel too bad for us because I'll be gallivanting. Galavanting.

You'll be over there galvanting round. I got to work on my accent. No, you don't. Because you're going to insult people. over there. Just don't do it. Like you insult the Australians every time you do that? I get mixed reviews on that. Is it mixed?

It is mixed. I've got a couple people say, please don't stop doing that. And I've had people from Australia say, please stop doing that. It's insulting. But that was one of our members, and she laughed while she said it. So I didn't take it seriously. Yeah, that's fair. If somebody's laughing while they're telling you something, you don't have to take it seriously.

That's a good rule of thumb. Yeah, that's kind of what I go off of, but it's Roslick Day, and it's just Salt Lake Day. We just wrapped up our sold on SLC review, so make sure you'll give that a listen. We are a little bit tepid as we move forward with it, a little timid, if you will. It was fine. I thought that they, it wasn't the best first episode, but the time will tell. So go give that a listen. Let us know what your thoughts on the show are, and we will continue as long as you guys like it, and we You'll continue to watch it, but we're not here to talk about that. This is Roslick, which is slowly becoming one of the best Houseway franchises out.

And this episode really solidified that. You texted me right as I started. Yeah. This, well, I don't know what I said in the text message because I don't remember, but this was, I think, potentially my favorite episode of Housewives that I've actually watched yeah it was phenomenal had everything it had everything top to bottom everybody showed up everybody performed in their own way it was incredible it was so much fun to watch it was finally just a show to like like i might rewatch this episode for my own enjoyment yeah

that's how far it's come and to find things that i miss because there's so much happening and it was this is the the sign of a great episode when there are not seen changes when there is not a location change when you spend 45 minutes in the same location that means that they did something right that means that it's a good episode there's enough within the group to sustain it and that's also what happens when you get the whole crew together we haven't had a whole lot of scenes since milwaukee really much milwaukee yeah yeah since the entire cast has been together this is what can happen you can get magic in a bottle and it came via merediths bot mitz which I didn't see coming, but it was fantastic.

Like you said, it had everything. It had drama, friendships, monumental milestones in people's lives, tears, emotions, laughter, consoles, insults. There was everything. And I don't want to waste any time because Mekootz has to get ready to go on daycare. We want to make sure we have enough time to dive into this. I also have to get ready for the Southern Charm premiere tonight. I went and got an outfit pretty wishwanky. I went to suit supply.

It's my go-to. No free plugs, but I love that place. I'll give them a free shout out here. I got a nice jacket, like a coat, a little light gray coat. I got a white sweater, like a little, you know, you know what I mean, little tight. Turtle neck? No, God, no. I got to show off my neck.

I like my neck. I don't want to look like a condom like you. That's your thing. I don't want to steal that from you. And also, people like it on you. I don't know if I don't think I can do a turtleneck. I don't think I'm a turtleneck guy. I think I am.

And I only have, I think I have two turtlenecks, but my friend's getting married in January and he's having his rehearsal dinner. And he sent a text out about the attire and even gave me a shout out halfway through saying sport coat and turtle neck is fine, John. Like, okay. Great. Who? Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, no, you did it. Blur it out. Beep. I'll just hit the Miami on. Bam, brer, bear, bear. But, yeah, got my outfit. looks great. What's great about suit supply, my last little plug

for them, if you get, if you buy it from there, they'll fit it and they'll tailor it within an hour and get it back to you, which I love. I like that you say no free plugs and then you did two plugs. But then I immediately said like I will give them a shout out because they're great. They do good work there. It's a difference between a plug and a shout out.

I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't think it's the same thing. Yeah, that's a rhetorical question, Farley. I'm Ron. I'm Ron Burgundy. I'm Ron Burgundy. Let's jump in.

And we start out, it's Meredith practicing for that evening, going through the Torah and everything. And all this did was remind me of, and I think everybody walking in, you know, because obviously in Philadelphia, there's a large Jewish community. So I know I went to a ton of bar mitzvizs and bat mitzvahs. I loved them. I always look forward. They're so much fun, especially when you're 13. And you're like, that's your idea of what parties are supposed to be. when you go to a bar mitz or a bar mitz was like this is lit and you're always jealous of your

Jewish friends because they get so much money as gift to those things like I made like 30,000 and at that age you're like you're a millionaire or you're like 16 or 17 and you're talking about money and they're talking about like oh yeah I've got my college fund and my bar mitzvah fund and it's like yeah what do you have it's like $40,000 I know I'm like fuck I should I should have a bar mitzvah but obviously I'm not trying to take away from what it actually actually symbolizes. And you can say a lot of things about Meredith. I thought that this was really touching. I thought given what's going on in the world, for starters, for the fact that Seth is obviously Jewish, her Jewish heritage as well. I thought this whole thing, a little dev in the

window, if you saw that, if you're watching YouTube. So it just, I liked all of this. For her, for her family, you know, she even gets read there. There's just, you're freaking out about boxes still? She's getting all the boxes out. Yeah. she's getting the boxes out i got him out for trash day but we got we had more because everyone keeps sending us baby stuff so he just yeah boxes on boxes on boxes but anyway back to the point i like this i really did i liked reed showing up we don't ever see read i guess he's a pretty private person doesn't we have a camera but for him to come back was cool brooks is there obviously everybody showed up for meredith and i think that this is touching regardless of my feelings

on her but ethers back on the espresso martini train which i'm thrilled about that means there's probably going to be fireworks later that's what i take that as oh yeah and there sure was she wasn't at the helm of it though at all no there she is again one more time yeah more time one more time um but let's get into the drama because it starts off pretty quickly whitney's upset with bronwyn because she threw under the bus and now she doesn't trust her and from what i've seen all season right it's interesting to watch braunwin play the game and she's was fucking flawless this episode. The way that she

went about it was just scorched earth. Like I don't think I've seen in a long time. And we'll talk about that much later. Yeah. But just the setup here with Whitney, it's hard for these two. When they were friends in the beginning, I was like, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And I don't think this

is going to pan out because Bronwyn does seem to root herself in truth. She likes to stir the pot and she likes to say things a certain way to point you in a certain direction, absolutely. But it's usually founded on fact. Whitney, Whitney's facts are her own. Whatever she deems the situation to be, that's what actually happened. And these two, I didn't think would vibe. So I was kind of waiting for this to blow up. And I'm glad it did, I think, because it leads to everything.

It's kind of a weird situation, too, because it's not something that I really saw coming. I didn't see a friendship between them coming until Whitney made that comment when they were away in Palm Springs saying I love Bronwyn. I don't think I've ever been on a trip like this flown privately and had all of this swanky stuff. And you could tell right away. It's like, oh, Whitney wants a rich friend that's going to show her places that she's never been before and show her experiences that she's never seen. That makes a lot of sense to me. But I still don't really understand it from Bronwyn's perspective. And I don't think Bronwyn ever really took Whitney under her wing per se.

at all. I don't think she really cared about Whitney at all. It just made sense at the time because she was beefing with Lisa and the Heather thing. So yeah, it kind of makes sense. Let's bring Whitney in and we'll be nice to her for a little bit. Whitney turning on Bronwyn, I did not see. I thought that she still would have had that same regard for Bronwyn saying, yeah, you know, she's really rich. So I'm not going to I'm not going to ruffle the feathers too much here. I'm not going to be offended by something that she said here trying to pit me against Heather. I'm going to let it roll off because I want to be friends of Brahman. So I'm surprised that she's going at this angle. I'm actually happy that I'm proud of her for being like, fuck her. I'm done. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, definitely do that

because it's unlike the Whitney that we've seen before. And we talked about this earlier in the week when we did our last week's episode of Salt Lake. The only reason why Heather's not immediately beefing with Whitney is because it came from Bronwyn. If Meredith said it, if Lisa had said it, she would have gone right after Whitney and said, what are you fucking talking about? Are you talking about me behind your back or behind my back? We're going to do this again? Let's beef again. But because Brahman said it, she's going to let it roll off because it's from Bramwin, who she has beef with. So it's a weird little triangle going on here. I don't think Bronwyn cares where she is.

And I think that Heather's trying to figure it out. She's slightly panicking. She needs people on her side. She needs people to go against Brahmin with her. And she's definitely harboring some disinterest in what's going on with Bronwyn with East a wild card. I had no idea what she was going to do. But I'm happy that she's doing this because this works. Yeah, I agree with that.

but let's get to Brittany who got her nails done. I guess they're a little bedazzled. We got some gemstones on those bad boys. And this is important to note because this gets glossed over. This could have came up later. And I don't know if it will. I think she said to Miley, I don't even know her name.

Miley? Yeah, sure. I don't know why she's here. But I think that Lisa drops it to her. After seeing the nails, she says, those are little bridge and tunnel. People like, well, what does that mean? To me, that implies like, a working girl.

like hanging out under bridges and troll is what actually what I thought is that what you thought I didn't think that I thought it was because the whole episode the whole episode to me is about you know slut chaming yeah and to me that that's calling her slutty for having bedazzled nails and I don't I mean I don't know if that equates to that like it's just it's a strange choice I'm not up on girl lingo honestly no and I'm surprising but yeah you would think from these shows we would know a little bit more but we are idiots i just that's the vibe i took from it which i think is really fucking mean but that gets glossed over i thought that could come back up later yeah but as we

know moving forward we know that angie she shows up in hopes to move forward with meredith we know they're not on great terms ever since mary's house and that whole thing blew up uh also the the camp day was a disaster oh yeah so there's a lot of tension between a lot of people in this group Bronwyn is no different. She's not in a good spot with either Meredith or with Angie, and she's looking for apologies. The problem with the Roslick crew always is they're all looking for apologies. Everybody wants an apology from everybody else,

but nobody wants to be the one to apologize, which is going to cause a lot of mayhem, and it certainly does. But before that, Angie and Mary are talking at Mary's house and obviously on the heels of what we saw last week, which was, again, one of the most powerful scenes we've ever seen. And it's the aftermath. And Mary, more or less is like, yes, she wants to move forward with Meredith.

Yes, she wants to put it behind her. But she doesn't have time to really focus this attention on it right now. She's on the fence about the bar mitzvah because of Robert Jr. And rightfully so. And she starts crying. And I think for the first time what we see from Angie, not the first time ever, just I think Angie's starting to understand it and I hope is able to relay it to the group as things start to build up as Mary starts to show up late to things more and more seems disconnected seems to not

care about what's going on in the friend group. I hope that this scene gives Angie enough of an inkling to be like something's really going on like she was in tears so much she's ready to talk about it she will. Yeah. Because no one's going to assume it's this. I don't think even if they've seen Robert Jr. recently because of what Mary says where it's like, you know, I never thought this would happen in my own house. Nobody ever does. So I just hope people ever to give her grace as they navigate through this. And I understand that's hard to do if you don't know the whole story. And I'm sure they'll come back around to it. Yeah. If they act out during. But it's just I, that was what I got from. I was like, I hope Angie understands like, oh, fuck, this is something real is

going on. Yeah. I make sure the other ladies know. I think she definitely does. And I do think, thinking about it in the way that you're prefacing it, I don't know if Angie's good with enough people in the group. Like, she's okay with Lisa right now, but she's not good. She's definitely not good with Heather. I don't think her and Heather are even like each other. Bronwyn, definitely not. Meredith, definitely not. Those are the people that you need to reach to and say, look, Mary's going through a lot, but she's not in a good place with any of them.

So they're not going to hear her out. She's probably not going to tell them in the first place. I did think during the scene that Angie said something that I would imagine that everybody on this cast should be saying, which is I can tell you're going through something. When you're ready to talk about it, you know, I'm here for you. That's really all you need to do. And that's what I would have loved out of Meredith last week. And I know Mary and Meredith made up this week, which was a lovely scene, which we'll get to. But I do think that I would like to see that for the rest of them.

Just understanding because Mary's not the type of person like, yeah, she might show up late to something. Yes, she might be very self-absorbed. She might not really care about the other things going on around her. But to all of us watching at home and to the people on the cast, it does look like Mary's a little off and there's something going on. She's not telling you what's going on. But once that starts, you do have to be like, you know, let's give her some grace until she's ready to talk about this.

Where I feel like Angie did that, no one else is really doing that. They're all very much wrapped up in their own thing and their own storylines. So I'd like to see the rest of the cast be able to do that. And I like that Angie said that because that is the type of friend that Mary needs right That's exactly what she needs. She needs somebody to say, like, yes, just because what we watched last week is as, as, you know, touching as it was, as heavy as it was, Mary is not the type of person that's going to just come right out on the show and say, this is what I'm going through. I need you guys to give me some space. She's just not going to do that.

So giving her the opportunity to just say, look, I can tell you're going through some stuff. I'm here when you need me. Boom, done. That's perfect. That's exactly what Mary needs. And you can tell that it resonated with her right away. Yeah, and I think as fences start to mend, you'll start to see people have that conversation. I'm sure next episode, I would hope since Meredith and Mary are cool now, there's a check-in

where Mary's like, I'm not good, and I haven't been able to talk to you about it at Meredith, and that maybe will start the ball rolling of people supporting and being like, hey, what the fuck, what's up? Like, we're here. So we'll see how it plays out, but it gives me hope. But we get to the mitzvah. Ron Wyn is very aware of her role

and that's good when you have a housewife aware of what she has going for because she's like everybody dumps on me everybody tells me all of their shit and I don't know why

and we don't know I mean we do know why it's because she's the richest and people want to be around to her but she does she gets she's privy to all of the shit talking behind clothes she does she doesn't get involved

she'll maybe drop a line but she's careful how she says things she's not careful this episode. It was so fucking good when she goes off. She didn't do it last episode either at the campsite. She immediately told people. Oh, dude, it was like her starting to get like fed up is so good. Yeah.

Because we've waited for it, I think. She's been so calculated and now she's starting to get messy. I'm like, it's playing very well. But she does. She has a lot of ammo on people. But Brittany's upset that Angie called her a slut, essentially. And again, Brittany lives on her own planet. I love Britney so much.

I do too. I do too. I think she needs to place Whitney as a housewife. Whitney can be a friend of. I've come full circle. Okay, I'm cool with that. I don't care. No, I didn't think you would, yeah. Yeah, I really don't care.

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at Shysimans. I think she's great, but not for any reason I've ever seen another housewife be great.

Like she's so in her own realm of just what the fuck. Like I don't understand her. I don't, I can't follow her train of thought.

Because if we go back and watch, Brittany, you're the one that said I've been dating like 10 guys, three of them seriously. I love drinking. I love that you talk about all of this shit. So for Angie to say you were doing three guys, you said you dated 10 and weren't serious with three at once. I get that you can feel some type of way, the way that she said doing three guys, yeah, okay. could take issue with that, but they don't fucking say that. I didn't get that she's slut-shaming you. I think that if you look back on the scene too, that all came from the fact that you acted

weird about the wine, you now want to lean on your laurels of religion and the Mormon church when it suits you, but when it doesn't, you want to drink and date dudes, which no judgment. I don't care. I don't think Angie would really care either if that was your MO that you like to party a little bit and you date around to try to whatever, whether it's fun. are you looking for a man? No one gives a shit. But when you frame it, I'm a good Mormon, but you're doing these things. And then you lash out at Angie for a bottle of wine that she bought you. But meanwhile, they're also texting her a nice thank you. You're going to catch some

shit. But she frames it as, I'm so upset that Angie called me a slut. And I'm like, that's not what she did. And she's not disrespecting your religion. You are one foot in, one foot about you're Mormon 2.0 with Lisa Barlow. People are going to question things. But Bronwyn starts to take it and run with it. And she's like, oh, that's, that's Angie. She's a one-upper. She likes to one-up people. And we get a little montage this season. I don't know if she's one-upping or if she just came into the season. I'm going to make a name for myself. You could argue it's one and the same, I guess. And we do have a lot of instances where Angie's trying to take center stage. We get the scene with the,

the scroll early on. We get hers. I didn't realize how much she's telling people to shut the fuck up until this scene. Oh, yeah. She is saying that a lot. And that, that'll run the chair over in Milwaukee. Kicking the chair over Milwaukee. Like she's starting a lot of shit.

She's starting to show why she potentially earned that center snowflake. You could argue there's other people that deserve it more, but you're getting enough now where it's like, all right. And even her reaction at the end, I'm like, okay, I get, I'm starting to pick up. I'm starting to see why you moved more towards the middle. Definitely starting to understand it. But look, I get it. I think the connotation is there when,

Angie calls her out for drinking when she calls her out for dating multiple guys. I don't think it's a huge leap to just jump and say, oh, my God, she's slut-shaming me. It's there. It's definitely there. She's making a comment and it has something to do. It's along the same lines. But I just love that Brittany's able to just jump to that conclusion using her own words, using her own words that she told Angie, all of these things. texted her and thanked her and thanked her for the wine.

And now she's saying she's slut-shaming me. All she's doing is just taking what you said, repeat. packaging it and sending it back over there with a little bit of stank. It's the exact same thing that you said. So is she speaking in facts? Yes. Is there a little stank on it? Yes, there is. But it's not full-blown slut shaming. It's not like she's going around and telling people behind her back. She's telling everybody what you said in a very big group setting. That's all she's doing. But I love that Brittany takes such offense to it because it does set her up where, yeah, now you're playing the game, Brittany. You're getting involved. In the past, all we've ever seen is you

stand up at dinner tables and start screaming and shouting about how nobody's paying attention to you. You're talking about Jared, then flip-flopping back and forth. All of her issues have been about what Brittany has been doing. Now she's at least bringing somebody else in. And right now, Angie is a central figure in all the drama. She's got beef with Meredith. She just squashed beef with Lisa. So now you're getting somebody else involved. And there's people that are going against Angie. So they will quote unquote have your back, not for long, maybe a hot minute or five. But that's about it. That's all we're going to do here.

And at least she's playing the game now and getting herself inserted and everything. Yeah, no, it's good. It's good. She's unintentionally getting involved because she's just such a mess. But Bromond even calls Angie, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, like she's really starting to throw some accusations out there. This is the messiest we've seen her up until this scene.

It gets much, much more messy along the way. But we get Meredith arriving on a horse. and carriage she calls it a sleigh so i wrote sleigh queen it is it is an absolute sleigh and i couldn't help i'm not going to say it i couldn't help but think of um wendy showing up on that boat last week on potomac oh this was way better donuts this was way better way better this works in the atmosphere it works where you are it was beautiful i love well she pulled up to the event people don't have to walk away from the event to stand on the the waterfront and watch her do donuts that walk back to the party.

But Meredith is at this moment happy that Angie's there, hoping it's signs of what to come. I think it's hysterical. This is, again, such a Brittany move. Seth gifted Meredith his talus, which is the garb that you wear whilst reading the Torah. It's a religious thing. It's important.

It's special to Meredith. It's special to Seth. It's a pretty cool moment. He's like her scarf matches her outfit. I'm like, oh, God, I'm like, shut up, shut up. That'd be like, looking at a yarmulke, I'd be like, oh, that's a cool hat.

Like, Jesus, just, if you don't know what it is, like, shut up. I have to ask, did you think the same thing that I thought when you saw the yarmikas? I don't know what you think. That, of course, they're branded with Meredith Marks on it. They had merit. I didn't even notice. I was too busy taking notes. Well, thankfully, I was watching with my girlfriend, who is Jewish.

And she immediately said, no, no, no. They do that for all bat mitzvvvahs and bar mitzvahs. Okay. I was like, okay. All right, cool. I thought this was another, like, Meredith Mark's caviar. Like caviar thing. The caviar's there, though, don't worry.

I know you get Seth plugging it. If you like tacos, you like caviar? No, he said if you like capers, you'll like caviar. No, he said you like capers. Caviar is like a savory taco or something. He said they're a taco. A little tacos. No, they're not, Seth.

It's just not. Anyway, this next scene is one of my favorite most. moments ever ever because mary shows up she decides to uh to prioritize her amaryt's friendship and and show i thought that was big i thought that was really cool of her but she's late and i was so afraid it was going to be taken the wrong way because of what she's going through and she is trying to find the way in and she is behind the fucking stage i thought she was knocking on the windows like oh no oh no oh no like as meredith is reading the Torah she's knocking on the I'm like, dude, oh, God, somebody goes to get her.

So thankful that it didn't turn into something negative that nobody called her out for it. Nobody gave her shit for it. It was just funny. That's embarrassing. And yes, it was, not given the context. But like she couldn't find her way in. And then, of course, I'm screaming while she's getting in there. And she finally finds the door.

I'm like, just stand in the back. Stand in the back. Stand in the back. You've been to church before. You know how this works. If you're late, you stand to the back. You don't get to go sit down, Mary. Come on.

She's working pretty well. all the way she did sneak it pretty well they tried to make it i'm sure they produced it this way but they tried to make it a little more apparent it wasn't yeah i know merrith was just starting her speech about how important it is for her to go through with this and what it means for her family and i thought that was lovely and mary's like sneaking around like i don't even know if these two things happen the same time but it's still funny oh my god it was it was hysterical but we get to the uh the after party and and she goes up to talk to lisa and just like look i need to talk to bronwyn and I don't want her to get between you and I, Lisa, because as we know, Lisa is trying to

patch up her friendship with Bronwyn after the Heather nonsense in Palm Springs. And she just wants to have a face-to-face with Bronwyn to see probably where they stand. Like, they're really not doing great. But that's also what Angie's good at is downplaying. I think where she stands with other people. She always thinks there's a way forward. I don't think they were close at all. Like, I can't recall many scenes about them even trying to be.

friends. No, but they're definitely not cool now. No, they're definitely not cool now. And I think it is a bit trivial because, I mean, Angie was telling everybody to shut the fuck up and Brownman kept talking and then she singled her out. So it's like, yeah, whatever. I think it's trivial, but I also think that you have in Bronwyn, somebody that's getting really fed up about getting called out while watching other people do the same thing. And she's getting like, we watch her break. Not in like she loses her mind way. She just breaks and I'm fucking done kind of way. I'm going to call everybody out. And that's the product of over and over and over again. Everyone's doing the same shit, but she's catching the most shit forward.

And that's just because you're new year. Like, that's just how it kind of goes. But it's also because people are threatened by her. Like, that's very apparent. But before we get to that, you do this touching scene between Mary and Meredith. And I'm glad there was nothing like you were late again. Like we don't talk about that. It was more so, look, this is why I'm upset from Mary.

You walked out. Never had somebody do that. really hurt my feelings merritus like i did apologize to you multiple times i was like don't say that we're close we're so close but it didn't didn't do anything because mary's like i'm sorry i made you feel unwanted yep hug hug let's move on i think we're totally fine i don't i think we're good and i want them to be friends and also i think that mary's the type of person that she went in there with the intention of getting everything over with making sure that they're cool yeah she wouldn't show up yes she showed up late but she wouldn't have shown up in the first place if she wasn't adamant on

them repairing their friendship and that's what she wanted to get done so i don't think that really anything would have derailed her from that no matter what merrith was saying because meredith's still going to get a couple jabs in there of course it's her day and she also feels very righteous so she's going to do that but mary went in there with the intention of apologizing and getting on good terms with her and i liked it because she did say i love you like four times they're good and i like it when they're good because they were friends they were really close they are married to mary were yeah they are actually real friends and we don't want to see real friendships trouble just the fake ones that pop up just the fake ones can get melt down we don't care about

them but i mean meredith was still friends with mary when she was off the show exactly so we know that's a genuine friendship and she needs her real friends right now so yeah let's get to the chaos because now chaos ensues it starts out with brawin and angie and angie's always good for this she will always force the conversation no matter what and she will always always give a convoluted prelude to the apology or what she wants out of the apology and she starts talking about talking too much and Brahman's like I like just laugh like this is when I realized like Brahman's done she's completely because she's just laughing through it she's like I really hope this is an apology and Angie's like oh you want an apology for me because I kind of want an

apology too instant Bronwyn's like fuck this and she gives a half-assed apology to tell her to shut like or she says like you've told me to shut the fuck up like a thousand times when she says that and she's like well I guess I'm sorry for saying she just kind of snaps Bronwyn. She's like, I'm fucking done. Like, I don't have time for this shit. She starts to walk away. And she tries to reel her back in. And she blames Bronwyn for inserting herself between her and Lisa Barlow, getting involved with Britney's relationship.

And now Bronwyn starts to pull out the ammo. She's like, yeah, well, you said she was fucking 10 guys. No, she didn't. Yep. But it's out of hand at this point. It doesn't matter. It's out of it's off the rails at this point. It doesn't matter.

She's like, oh, actually I said three. but it's not a lie like you were talking shit about it i know it wasn't intentional slut shaming or it didn't come out is that but bronwyn points out again like you're screaming cuss words in my face profanities in my face like you're unhinged with your with your word choice and she's like oh you're upset about my word choice you said like lisa you have to ride her dick and blah blah blah i'm like okay time out because it's all about circumstance. You keep telling people to shut the fuck up when they just speak up. You're getting in their face and telling them to actively shut the fuck up.

Don't stop doing it. It's great for TV, but you can't expect for them to take it in stride every time. On the flip side, Bronwyn, most of the time, resorts to these words in defense of something or defense of herself or making a funny. When she said the C word, she was referring to herself. She didn't call anybody else a C-word, and it's also not up for Angie to dictate people's word choice. Like that doesn't make Bromwin any lesser than because she has a dirty mouth sometimes

because so do you. And you keep telling her to shut the fuck up. So she's going to feel some type of way about that. So Angie tries to spin it as, oh, you're going to get upset because I use cuss words. It's like, no, it's the circumstances in which you did use those. But it's also more like stay on topic. And I hate when people do that. We do that on these shows all the time where, and we just learned about Angie doing this

and one-uping everybody, you're going to bring in other things to make your point a little more clear that never works. We're talking about this one instance. That's when everything crumbled. You told me to shut the fuck up. All you have to say is, you know what? Everybody was elevated. I just wanted everybody to stop talking so that I could get my point across. I shouldn't have yelled at you individually. Sorry. Just kept it to the general public. I just told everybody to shut the fuck up. That's all you got to do. And you might be able to move on, but bringing in other things and bringing in other examples that have nothing to do with you. And by the way, when Brombron, When stood up and said, what am I supposed to do, ride your dick, Lisa, when you're going to have a beef with somebody else?

You were at odds with Lisa at that point. You were also, they were both on the same team. You were going after Lisa too. Yeah, they were both on the same team going after Lisa. So you can't be upset about that now because it actually helped your case back then. So that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But I do at the end of the day, enjoyed the fact that Bronwyn is pushing the envelope, getting her, I'm sorry, Angie is pushing the envelope, getting herself involved, coming right up and talking about it because. At the end of the day, I didn't really think that any of this really mattered.

But what I learned is they don't like each other. They really do not like each other. There hasn't been much effort on either side about being friends. Bronwyn's new. There's no come over to my house and like meet my dad. He's a great Greek guy. Come on. We'll have a sit down and we'll have a whole Greek dinner.

Nothing like that. It's just nothing. It's just you're on the same show. So you guys don't like each other and I like that. I do too. And as we say all the time, not everyone's going to get along. You don't have to force friendships because when you do, this is what ends up happening.

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But Todd steps in. I thought this, you know, wasn't like a, you know, him being a dick moment. He was a little bit more gentle with it. It was more just like, hey, this is a bot, that's, but you guys are yelling cuss words at each other. Like, let's just, like, hey, want to get a drink. And Bronwyn still doesn't feel supported. And I think that that is just more of a reflection of their relationship overall, not this actual moment. And there is something to be said about that.

We'll save that for another time because we have too much to talk about with the drama. You get a quick check in with Whitney and Heather. Just a quick touch on. And this just confirms what we're saying where she's like, this is nothing I haven't heard from Whitney. It's like you would be livid if she's still talking shit. And anybody else told you except for Bronwyn, but you can't bend the need of Brahmin because you're threatened by Brahmin.

You want the upper hand and you need teammates because you're not doing great this season. And Whitney will always be your teammate as long as you agree with Whitney. You just have to keep her happy and she'll be on your side. That's really all you need, honestly, when it comes to the two of them. And we've seen them go after each other constantly. They did it as early as last year talking about Heather's book and the way that she portrayed Whitney. You guys will melt down at some point. But the fact that you're not letting what Bronwyn said melt you down is just because you want to make sure that everything's okay on that ends.

You're not going to let Bronwyn get to you. You're just going to keep things the status quo for now. You'll turn on Whitney in like two or three weeks. It's inevitable. But now we're completely off the rails and it starts out with Brittany and Bronwyn's short-lived friendship. This was fucking so

funny because you can tell that Bronwyn's like, sure, Brittany, let's be friends. Brittany's like, oh my God, I did it. I made friends with Bronwyn. I've been wanting this for so long. I'm so excited. This is so, so great. Angie comes over and says,

Bronwyn thinks that I'm a bad person and Brittany said that Angie called me a slut and Angie sticks up for herself. She actually did say, you're doing three guys. He says 10. We know what the action.

Brittany is the one that said 10. Angie's the one that said three. Out of nowhere. Friendship over. Because Brahman's like, well, you said that Angie was a slut. And she did earlier because when Angie made that reference,

Brittany out of, like this is so unfound. It's like, you know what? It's probably because she's doing the same thing. It's like, don't do that. And of course, it gets downplayed a little bit where Brittany starts to talk about, well,

maybe that's what you were doing when you were dating. That's not what you said. That's what you were doing with Sean is what you said. You implied that you're insane. Like that's a much more damning thing than a single woman who is actually, in fact, dating around. Yes. To be having sex with three guys.

Like, that's not that crazy, but you just accused her of cheating on her husband with multiple men. That's a big fucking deal. Bronman blows it out of the water. It's so fucking funny. Brittany doesn't know what to do. because she just gets blindsided by her quote unquote friend. I think she's also reeling because she realizes they're not actually friends.

And I didn't know that Angie had this kind of read in her. I did not because he starts going to town on Britney. She's like, well, I don't look or dress like I have a high body count. You got high body count hair. You got high body count dress. You got a high body count nail polish. She's just throwing her under the bus for now she is slut-shaping her. You wanted slut shaving.

Now you're getting it because she is dragging you literally head to toe about how much of a slut you are, which is very mean. But again, you said that she's cheating on her husband with three guys. So I'm not siding with anybody. Let's just everybody battle, everybody fight. And you know it's good drama because everybody else that is privy to this conversation is laughing. They're all like, oh, it's like a schoolyard fire. people are like, oh shit. Oh, she said high body count hair. Like, it was incredible back and forth. And by back and forth, I mean, Angie tearing into Brittany while Britney didn't know what to do.

It was such a bewildering moment for Whitney who thought that she had made a friend in Bronwyn. That was like the perfect little thing because Brahman had that ready to go. She's been doing this the whole season. She just listens to things when something outlandish has said, she's going to drop it. it's the perfect time too usually we do harp on the fact that sometimes housewives will drop a little bit of a nugget of information way too soon in timing wise it seemed a little soon it was not it was perfect because as soon as brittie thinks you guys are friends that i fucking love the brawins over there still getting into it with angie and brittney comes over and puts her hands around your arm like we're arm and arm we're friends now guys check this out yeah i i just

fucking love hell it just all devolves so quickly in brittany's eyes that she becomes friends with broughamwin for a hot minute maybe five that's about as much as you're going to get it was a plus moment for us a plus moment for the audience for the cast like i said the fact that everyone's standing around just reacting to the shade being thrown and it it was a level of top tier housewifeism i did not know that angie had this was the moment where i'm like i get it i see why she sent her snowflake she has stepped into her own and it is arguably from the bat mitzv itself this this she became a woman like she she fucking nailed it and she tries to give like a half-assed apology she's like look it your hair looks great it's a bumper i don't know what that is i've no idea what that is she says

it a couple of times but then she says i love your hair and she's just kind of doing a half-assed apology i think because she realizes that she's completely ruined the party in a lot of aspects that she's calling a lot of attention to herself in a negative way it doesn't look great on her here comes Meredith Meredith is done she's had it we've seen this move

before you can leave kicking people out but she comes prepared we said and now I'm starting to think that Bravo producers are listening to us because we've been saying this since Potomac and we saw Giselle with William the security guard she's got security ready

Tua and James are on standby and she's Like all and even Meredith, I'm so happy you wrote that down to. Two and James. Oh, yeah. I'm always going to write down the security guards names because I need security at every single party from here on out because it leads to moments like this. And the fact that she was so happy to be able to use them, she was, she was prepping for this.

She goes, and this time I have security. Security, get her out of here. And they leave and she fucking make her leave and take her and they escort her out. And Merritt's like, I don't like people who slut shame and degrade other women. I'm like, okay, get off your high horse now because you degrade other women all the time. You just leave it security, get her out of here. LB, she goes over to help and she's like, what happened? And Angie, Angie's saying why she feels slighted.

And Lisa does make a good point. She does every once in a while. She's like, Angie never takes accountability for her side of things because she doesn't. And we don't want her to if this is what the product is, she doesn't need to. and she was also pushed to a certain point and am i biased towards angie yes i am now because of this she's great so i get it no she doesn't take accountability i almost don't need her to i would like to see her do this and then they can try to make up later and have a conversation at a later date but i need more of this stuff because it's so fucking good brittney is still complaining i'm so

tired of this and then stop putting yourself in these positions you you say things and then people use them against you and then you act like it came out of nowhere you're the problem you're the root of all of that they go to take a selfie her and mylie maylie muley whatever her name is and brahman throws another dart and walks away she's like i don't have slutty hair i can't take a picture and walks it's fucking incredible and the lasting image of angie just being escorted out and trying to like sneak through to it and james just try to get back in get a couple words in there throw a couple of dicks like nope nope nope here's your purse here's your purse security guards as long as they don't make this a thing where we are denied these types of events because we're

moving people around and just kicking them out of events all the time, I can't get enough of it as soon as I heard. And I had seen clips in the past in like the last, well, I guess the last 12 hours that this may have happened. I thought it was somebody making it up. I thought somebody just kind of like piece it together and I saw a picture and it looked like for a second. I'm like, oh, that kind of looks like Potomac. Maybe it's just a completely different scene and they're trying to like pick up on what we've been saying no absolutely not i was still just as surprised i was just as happy the fucking grin on my face when i saw meredith to do that was unbelievable i was so happy that this happened and i'm so happy with how it turned out everybody's in disarray

we're going on a trip next week i don't know what the fuck's going to happen everybody hates everybody it was sort of like a uh shit what did i say when i was watching it when leases going through all of the people oh it's like an ocean's 11 movie where they're like up let's rewind it a little bit and show you how we got here. Here's what happened behind the scenes. We're going to hit pause and we're going to show you where everybody is. Like this is fucking electric. Bravo production for Salt Lake specifically.

Top here. It is so good. It is so good. They make this move all the time and it's just such like little subtle things that they do, but it works flawlessly. It's just so awesome. It's exceptional. And you get the pause and it's like, let's recap.

Meredith hates Angie. Broneman hates Angie. Angie hates Brittany. I hate Whitney. Boom. We're going to Porta, Praira Vallerta, Vierta next week, or getting ready to, I can't wait. Enough said, let's get to some questions. Just a fucking chef's kiss episode, fantastic time.

Fantastic, just great TV. First up here from Amy Bridget, who's got slutter your hair, steal or shooter? Probably steal. Probably me, because I will also do stupid shit with my hair, like mohawks and foahawks. And, yeah, so, and bullets, sexy, dirty little mullets. So, yeah, me. uh chrissey jeddlicky who are you backing angie or brittany both i just love it i'm just enjoying both because if you're backing brittany it's just nonsense but it's still fun and angie angie i

didn't know she had all that in her it was it was a pretty great moment from kelly maggie did meredith invite angie to her party just to throw her out after how excited she was to use security i do believe security was there for angie yeah i think so i don't know she was actually like i think she brought just in case for angie or Whitney. Potentially Whitney, if Whitney and Lisa started to get after it, then yeah, maybe. They were there for somebody. Like, they weren't

there just in case. They were there to be used. Yeah. From J.T. Inc. Do you think Angie is in over ahead? I don't. I don't. I think that next week will know more, but no. I think that, I think going through the ringer of Jen Shaw early

on has prepared her for this. This is nothing compared to the shit she had to put up with with her. and let's remember that was one of her friends back in the day. So I think she's ready. And she's sent her snowflake for a reason. I think the timing works out perfectly too because she's able to come back together with Lisa. And if she didn't do that before all of this popped off, it would be a very large uphill climb for Angie.

But Lisa is seemingly staying out of it. She's just kind of asking investigative questions, just trying to figure out what happened. I know why. She's not going after. Well, we'll see. She wants her trip to go off well. She didn't care about it. She's focused on Puerto Vallerta.

Yeah. but right now it works we'll do one more from christina teresa if meredith doesn't like slut shaming why she friends with lisa look i'm not sure how many of them slut shame yeah we heard lisa slut shame meredith and that led to them not talking for two or three years or whatever not two or three years but a long time but i think also it's all depending on when it's brought up who says what about who if this is advantageous to be said obviously it makes Meredith look better if she throws her out and says, I don't stand for you

degrading women or slut shaming. It makes her seem like an advocate. She took advantage of a moment and there's nothing wrong with that. We see that all the time. But if you think that Meredith is like squeaky clean and the way she talks about people, like come on. We've seen it a million times. So no, I don't, I think

that it's whatever. I think they talk shit and shit happens. It was an opportunity. She could have picked Angie out for a lot of different things, but she decided to go for that. exactly that's all that but uh yeah other than that you go get yourself ready sir have a blast overseas uh we have enough content to sustain our baby birds and uh yeah i will go get ready for the southern charm premiere we will both report back i'll let you guys know via instagram

shoots we'll let you guys know when he returns maybe i'll go live on instagram while i'm over there looking for yeah do that and also if you're one of our listeners in london maybe shoots will throw up a pin at a bar when he's getting hammered and you guys can go drink with Shooter. Unlike me. I want to see that content. I want that content. I will do it.

I'll figure out where he is and I will docks him. Oh, come on. Here's Shooter's Hotel. Go drink at the bar. But, all right, bros, you got anything else? Nope. Bros and shows, got a go-oos.

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