Bros & Shows - How Will MomTok Survive This? (Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Ep 1 Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

What's up Bros? This was one of, if not the greatest premier of a reality show ever. We watched Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and my goodness... this show is amazing. In the premier episode we get to know the cast. We meet Taylor Frankie Paul, the creator of MomTok as well as Whitney and the rest of the crew. The group is still estranged following the swinging scandal that Taylor broke on a TikTok live, but it appears that they're all ready to make amends. Whitney moved to Hawaii to get out of dodge due to the scandalous TikTok, or at least thats what she told people... Maybe it had something to with his secret Tinder account but who's to say.. Taylor has another secret to unveil to the group as she might be pregnant with Dakota's child, her new boyfriend. Whitney feels betrayed by Taylor following the TikTok incident but does want to make amends with her for the sake of MomTok. The other women in the crew appear to want the same things as the whole group is ready to jumpstart MomTok. The entire group by the way, denies any involvment in the "soft" swinging that took place so either the swingers arent on the show, or we got some liars in the group. But just when it appears MomTok may be making a comeback, another scandal hits the group as Taylor has the police called on her and Dakota for a domestic violence dispute that lands her in handcuffs and charged with assault and battery...  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's one of the greatest plays ever made. anyway welcome to the brav bros we are here to discuss a new show that has been taking social media by storm there was a lot of buzz about this show and we got screeners on it we've been excited to talk about it and oh my god it did not disappoint this is one of the craziest shows that we've watched it is so fucking entertaining it has a great cast and i am so excited to get into it what are your immediate reactions. It's a very easy show to get into. It's such good. There's no other way to put this. It's great trash TV. It's cheese, bro. It is high class trash. It is incredible. And the other thing is, it's aside from the names, because the names are wildly confusing. We've got Macy, M-A-Y-C-E, K-C-A-Y-C-E.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I, I, sorry. Yeah, no, I knew that. It's just aside from that, it's very easy to follow. There are And I know, you know, we're coming from the Bravo world where things get very convoluted and there's a lot of past transgressions that have to do with the future and do with the present. And there's a lot of different storylines going on for this. It's like, okay, we get a little backstory on a couple of them so far. We're only going to do the first couple episodes here. We're only doing the first episode in this episode. This is going to get confusing. So, yeah, it's easy to follow.

And that makes it easy to podcast about. So I like that. 100%. Yeah, we love that. And it is such an easy watch. It's a blast to cover. It's just, it's simple. But the cast of characters, like, it's, you know what else that I think I like about it?

Because it's everyone in like their mid-20s, like early to mid to late 20s. It's almost like a junior housewife show. Like, that's the vibe I get. I love that they filmed it very similar to a Bravo show. Like with the cut scenes even with the, you know, the, what is it, landscape when they're going into. a different scene with the music the confessionals it's very bravo-esque which i appreciate and it's almost like what i wanted salt lake to be way more into the mormon part of it and you get a better glimpse into the mormon side of things because i'm still so fascinated with that religion so

i feel like there's so much to offer here but at the same time like you said it's easy it's just fucking easy yeah and take up what you're talking about where uh it's very similar to the layout of a Bravo show. Two things I want to talk about. One, this is just speculative. But I would say probably a couple, the way that Hulu is taking on reality TV right now with the Vanderpub Villa, now this, they've got a couple others. I wouldn't be surprised if they poached or got a couple people from Bravo to come over and help them out with that. Because it is a very similar setup. It's almost exactly the spitting image of Salt Lake City. Like you would see that going into the next scene. Pretty much the same landscape, same music, same everything.

it's young it's a little younger but it's still great the other thing that makes it awesome for especially for a first season we don't have the weird introductions like we're getting to know them but they all know each other so as soon as we jump into this this is just there's already shit going on and we're going to try to bring you up to speed i think they did a really good job in this episode of starting it off with not too long of an intro but just the right amount of here's where we are this is what happens. This is how they got big. And this is where everybody stands right now. And you're going to be introduced to all of the women across the board. I love it. I think it's so good. I think they did such a good job of getting us off on the right foot that there was no confusion leading into it.

You just knew we're going to hit the ground running and you got to meet Taylor right away, which is, you know, pretty much the front and center of this whole thing. For now. For now. We've watched, I've watched a few episodes. So there are things shifting my only gripe. I've only one gripe with this show. Before I say that, I do, I agree with everything you said. I'm glad that they, they gave us enough exposition so that we're not lost. They, when you get a new character, you immediately get a confessional of that character's intro. That is a great move.

You're not there. You're not speculating. It's like, oh, introducing a new character. Here's Macy. And then Macy cut to confessional. Hi, I'm Macy. This is what I do. This is my husband.

This is how I got famous on TikTok. Here's where I stand. Boom, moving on. That's a great setup because I feel like they try to get too cutesy with intro sometimes where it's like, oh, you're going to get to know them. It's like, no, I want to know them so we can move on from this part. They did a great job with that. My only gripe is the timeline.

If you watch the second episode, it's like, fuck. Oh, yeah, I know. A year ahead now, nine months? Like, where the hell do we go? I took it as six months later and we'll talk about that in our next episode. But I took it as six months later because Taylor was talking about her prevention. I can hear Debs, Dev's watching episode. one in the next room because that's the other part of this show that I love.

Oh, yeah. The fucking intro song being Sam Smith called Unholy. Yeah. That's the best fucking intro song for this show because it's like religion-centric. They're all acting kind of nuts and against the religion. So we're getting unholy up in this shit. And I just heard it playing in the other room. So that's getting caught up.

So that's good to know. But there you go. Yeah, it's a great show. So without further ado, let's jump right in. And if you're listening along, um, some of the other. our faithfuls that listen to us even when you don't watch the shows that we're watching we don't always say definitely watch this one you need to watch this one if you like reality tv you have to watch this show if you don't have hulu it's worth the subscription do a free trial watch this show and

cancel it i i would even go a step further and say you're probably going to need hulu moving forward for good reality tv i'm curious so there's definitely something there that we could get into further like either in like a members episode or something There's got to be some under the table dealings going on between Hulu and Bravo. They're working on something. There's too much crossover with Vanderpump going over there. You know what I mean? But she's still associated with Bravo.

We're getting Stasi over there. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives has been all over ABC on The Bachelorette. We got those promo trailers. I'm sure they're going to mention it on Bravo. I think we're getting maybe a, but that's confusing too, because Peacock, I guess, is their subscription. platform i don't know there's something going on between hulu and bravo something's happening no i think honestly i think that the hulu is just trying to get into it and they probably just brought some people over from bravo i don't know i don't know what lisa i have no idea what lisa worked out but

who cares double dipping double dipping that network money baby but let's get into this one and we get the intro and it's just crazy warming stuff and then you know they're raised to be housewise and we're here to break that mold and that's how mom talk got started we get a whole intro on mom talk which is great for guys like us because i had no clue what mom talk i i knew what mom talk was i was i was filled in over the past couple of weeks as to what mom talk was but up until this show i had no clue what mom talk was now i feel like a mom talk expert but how will mom talk survive this is my new favorite quote but to those of you that aren't up to speed mom talk is this group of mormon women they started making tic talks together the whole idea behind it was to break the

patriarchy that is the Mormon religion to show that they stand on their own feet they're their own women and they didn't want to be held down by the men in the church anymore and to that we say fuck yeah break the patriarchy in the Mormon church i love the idea behind it but things get a little Harry. They start to take a turn. I think it's really funny though because the description that we get, I'm following along for a lot of it. A lot of it makes a lot of sense. It's like, okay, yeah, you know, we're dancing. We're showing off what we're doing. We're not just hiding behind our husbands. We're just getting out there and just break it down the patriarchy that is associated with the Mormon church. And then I think Taylor personally takes it a step further and says, we like to

drink. We like to have a lot of fun. It's like now that we're introduced to the rest of the group, but I don't think that Whitney would introduce them like that. I don't think that Casey would introduce them like that. But it's really funny that Taylor is the one who's introducing it because it's like, well, that's what I like to do. It's like, okay. I don't think mom talk was, oh, we're going to be sitting around partying and like ripping shots on TikTok. They were just dancing and like showing off their lives and like the things that were going on there.

But Taylor's like, no, I also like to have a lot of fun and party all the time. We'll take it a step further. You know, there's something to be said about that for sure. We'll definitely get into it more because I do. It smells of hypocrisy around here. There's a lot of hypocrisy going on and a lot of finger pointing that I didn't appreciate that we're going to talk about in a little while. But we find out more about Taylor. She got divorced and a lot of shit got leaked to Reddit, I guess, and things were going on in the threads.

And so to, I don't know what her thought process was. And now getting to know Taylor a little bit more through these episodes, I'm not so sure she had one. I think she might be a little reactive. Her response to this was to do a TikTok live. She has over a million followers. So the TikTok live was for 60,000 plus, which is a crazy number to have live. Talking to 60,000 people, she outs the whole group for sway, sorry, soft swinging, which is everything but sex, which I just got to say, just got to say, leave it to the Mormons to like break it down or it's not, you know, because that's just. reminds me of soaking.

It's all that. As soon as I heard soft swinging, I'm like, is that just community soaking? Like, what are we doing? Oh, this is it. The day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror with your Starbucks coffee. Be confident.

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Oh, God, I don't even want to talk about it anymore. Just saying it in that context, I don't like. I don't like that. See, it's not fun anymore. Not too fun. But no, I think it's really funny, too, because when we're getting to know a little bit about this and the backstory about what broke the internet as they keep saying broke ticot broke the internet taylor's talking about how one of the moms went and started talking about what was going on behind closed doors

right okay that's what as we continue to meet these women i can't tell you for the life of me who would be the suspect number one because all of them seem like oh no i never got involved in any of that every other lying i know but like who's lying the most i like who's lying the most i I can't figure it up because they just start off. There's so many lies already. And it's like, okay, who's going to finally tell the truth? That's going to be, I guess, end of the season. We're probably going to get some sort of breaking thing where one of them is going to be like,

you know what, it was me. I was the whistleblower on all of this. I was uncomfortable with it. I don't know what it might be, but I cannot wait. I can't wait for the whistleblower. That's going to be riveting to find out who spilled the beans. But all in all, you can't. claim of this massive swinging scandal and nobody else in the group is copying to it

everybody else is like wouldn't me i don't share i love that too that's become common phrase is i don't share it's like yeah you don't have to say that no but everybody does it's a common terms like are you a share no no no i don't share okay meaning i'm not sharing all right that's you're talking about your significant other it's not like cake yeah but we get the full list and i made sure i wrote it down all right so here's the cast Whitney, Michaela, Jen, Jesse, Layla, Demi, Macy, and Taylor. Those are our secret wives in their Mormon lives. And I wrote down as a scene transition, very Bravo-S,

because again, you're going to get a lot of Bravo vibes from it, very Salt Lake vibes. Then again, I said earlier, this is what I wanted Salt Lake to be. Let me emphasize, I love Salt Lake. Ross Lake is phenomenal. It's just I thought we would do more Mormon stuff. So I like that this show is centered around that. But this is where you get to meet Taylor, Frankie, Paul. One of the OGs, the four OGs were Whitney, Macy, Michaela, and Taylor.

So that was the crew that started off Mom Talk with Taylor seemingly being the face of Mom Talk, at least the original face of Mom Talk. This is going to be an issue moving forward. But after the scandal, she led to keep a low profile a little bit. I'm not sure how exactly. But I think we'll learn about that more. And then you get to meet Macy, five-year marriage from California. This is the first time that she's seen Taylor since the scandal.

Orange County. The crossover. Maybe she'll go to Rose. Maybe that's what this show is. This is going to launch. This is like the minor leagues of housewives. Yeah. But Macy and Taylor get together.

It's the first time they're seeing each other. And you can tell that they're new to this, which I thought was funny in this scene because they're sitting face-to-face. No preamble. No, this has to be the first scene that was shot, like, as part of this show. That's my theory because there is no preamble. It's like, all right, the point of reality TV, as you've seen, ladies, is to talk about what's going on in your life. And we like some spicy stuff.

So make sure you bring the details. So the first sentence, the first conversation is, Jacob's not initiating sex. It's like, whoa, we're out of the gate running. What are we talking about here? I just love it in the context of we haven't seen each other for a long time. So this is going to be really awkward. Yeah. My husband's not initiating sex.

What? What are you trying to do? What am I supposed to do, walk around a lingerie, but then I'm still the one initiating it? Well, yeah, that's a really good point. And that's where they just immediately start running into it. It's like, all right, let's build up to it. How about we do that? No.

We're going to rip the Band-Aid off and get right into it, but that's what we learned about Dakota. So Taylor's met a new man, the new boyfriend, their Facebook official, and then they got, I guess, TikTok official, but then they got in a huge fight. people started commenting on her TikTok about it she put a poll up saying should we be official like no don't if you have to ask you probably shouldn't that's a good rule of thumb like if you have to ask social media if you should date somebody don't date them that would be my thought process maybe don't you know it's like us putting out a poll like hey do you guys want us to cover this show yeah but it's hey

should i date this man who you know we have a lot of mess to clean up but It's three months post-scandal. It is one month post-divorce, and that's when they start talking about everything that has gone on. So Whitney is another important figure. Whitney is the other face of mom talk. So as you're going to hear later, the teams pretty much break down to are you team Whitney or are you team Taylor?

That's how this is going to go. And it's two very different types of people, two very different characters. two very different characters, which I really like the dichotomy between those two is interesting. They talk about the TikTok live, and we get an explanation about the soft, like how this shit all went south. And I guess what happened with Taylor is they were soft swinging. Her husband invited another dude into the fold. Taylor caught feelings for the dude. I imagine went from soft swinging to what I can only call hard swinging and hard swung with

this random man that we don't know yet. Yeah, it was a hard swung. She hard swung with this dude and that pissed off her husband and that led to the divorce thereafter. At least that's what we've been told. Yeah, those open relationships are pretty tricky, huh? It don't seem to work out ever. So shocking that the soft swinging didn't go as planned.

But her response to this whole thing was to blow it all out of the water, which was, again, we'll talk more about, like, we're still introducing people. But that's kind of her M.O. from what it seems like is she's a tornado. Like, she is dangerous to be associated with at this point because it seems like everything she touches, she's a ticking time bomb. And we see that actually play out a little bit later. but with her mom this scene with her mom that's coming up she says she has a secret to tell her as soon as she said i have a secret to tell you i was like she's probably pregnant that's what this sounds like to me but they're talking about everything that's gone down and this is where the Mormon stuff starts to play more of a role because the mom is a little bit more traditional

most of the parents that we've met thus far are like traditional Mormons they they follow the book a little bit more so that's where this breakdown really comes in is the new generation versus the older generation and them rebelling more or less is what we're getting and isn't that what mom talk is all about that's what mom talk is about breaking the mold baby and they're discussing dakota i guess dakota's a recovering addict that concerns the mom as somebody in this field that's understandable it's a little sometimes with that kind of stuff yes it's a little touchy you can be a little bit nervous especially if he's newly recovering all that stuff but their relationship is interesting what's her name leanne right leanne leanne and she's

simply trying to tell taylor and i didn't think in a mean way but from a conservative standpoint hey you're not a bad person you keep doing a lot of bad shit and it's really fucking up my life and your father's life because we're here to pick up the pieces i really wish you would stop doing dumb shit to which her response was i just need support right now for you to tell me what to do mom yeah and this is before she drops the bomb too so it's it's great to see her mom firmly in the stance of you just got divorced like six months ago you had a three three months ago yeah i think oh so it's three months anyway whatever um so yeah you just got divorced three months ago it was an absolute shit show when all of that happened and now you're dating this guy you have kids already

what do you do it it seems normal honestly it's so funny because the way that the the way that it was like phrased or rather the way that the whole context was phrased about this conversation it's almost like they want the audience to be like all right mom why don't you back off once you let taylor go ahead and do what she's going to do and i found myself agreeing with lian the entire time like you're right is that like an age thing like we're older so we're like like yeah mom you let her know she's fucking up you gotta clean that shit up this is getting too messy but then she drops the bomb on her and the mom's like i'm fucking done i'm out of here like i can't believe that like you're so stupid you're just such an idiot but their relationship is

going to be interesting to watch i think because you do get that tough love conservative mom kind of thing but there's moments where she cracks and she is like well this is my daughter i can't like leave you out the hot like dry so she does support but at the same time she is not thrilled with the decisions that taylor frankie paul is making and understandably so there's a lot going on you're not helping yourself here it's also like really funny to me because i had the same thought you did she was going to walk in there and she said yeah i've got a secret to tell my mom that i haven't told her yet and i'm not sure how it's going to go over i'm like oh she's pregnant her secret was that she has to take a pregnancy test i know why wouldn't you take it first

Take it for you. Maybe don't have to tell her. What are you doing? And the other thing is, again, the way that this episode goes, I feel like they filmed it over a couple of weeks because so much changes in like 15 minutes of episode that she comes to the group with the same secret. Although this secret is completely different because we're weeks later and things have changed. She is pregnant, but I guess they may have miscarried or it's an, I don't know. to say it wrong. I don't have topic pregnancy, I believe. Something like that. Yeah, but I went into that as soon as she sat down and I'm like fully anticipated exactly what was going to happen, but she was

going to do the same secret. She was going to be like, yeah, you know, I took a pregnancy test. I'm not really sure, but I think I might be pregnant. I'm like, that is not again. That is not the time to tell them. That is not a secret. You keep that to herself until you know for sure. And then I was like, wait, what the hell happens? How many, like how much further into the future did we just go? that's the like i said my only gripe is the timeline of this show it's especially as the note taker it it is difficult because we get a lot of jumping around yeah yeah and i'm like wait where the fuck are we and how do we get here but during the scene with leann the other moms of mom talk are hanging out and going over everything and nobody's really talked to taylor this is where i start

to take a little bit of not an issue but my my radar starts going off a little bit because these girls are talking and it's jesse and demi and who else is there uh whitney oh no whitney's coming back they're talking about that so it's to me jesse and macy yeah that's what i'm going to talk about because she's got a billboard it's jesse i don't know what her last name is hair j-z so i took it as her last name doesn't begin with a z just the j-z like j-z like j-z oh you think it's that? I think that's what it is. But obviously while she's going through her whole hair empire, I'm like,

oh, Heather Gay, there we go. Right? There's a lot of correlations. Competition in there. And then she shows, before she even says it, when she shows the picture of her with the billboard, I'm like, that's jizz hair. She goes your mind's in the gutter. I'm like, damn it. Because the first thing I saw when I saw that

billboard was jizz. Like, who didn't? Come on. There's no way. The only people that say they didn't see that are just, they're lying, because they want to sound mature. But we, that says, it says jizz hair. Okay. The board says jizz hair. And you know what? You're going to remember that billboard exactly. You're going to remember it. So good advertising, I suppose, but. Yeah, there you go. Apparently, apparently nobody in the group knew that there was soft swinging going on. They all claim that they were not involved in the soft swinging. They all claimed that they were not

involved in the soft swinging they even go as far to comment on their take on soft swing like oh what just because he don't have sex it's the same thing i'm like i there's something fishy here one of you in this room because at that point there's a lot of them there and i can't remember all their names that's another gripe i have with this show when we get scenes with multiple characters we need names on everybody yeah everyone needs to have a name yeah they only name plate like one or two people and they leave the rest go you can do what de me did and just wear a crew neck that says to me on it that i love that yeah that's great yeah because now i know who you are but it jumps around so much i'm like fuck who's this one again

who's that one again i don't remember so we need no more name plates i think would be very helpful but they're all sitting there denying denying denying somebody's full of shit and i can't wait to find out who is at least a bunch of them are they got to be that was the whole thing the whole thing was that this whole group was swinging with each other but only one person's copping to it like no shot i hope i don't because i don't want her to continue down this spiral but part of me wants taylor to just fucking snap again and be like here's who did what here's everybody's uh rap sheet i hope so because i need to know if we go through this whole season and some of you out there might have watched the entire thing we got a lot of messages from from our

followers on instagram they're like oh i binge the whole thing in a day which is awesome but yeah if we don't find out more about this group and who's doing what with whom who's soft soaking and hard soaking i'm going to lose my mind me too i have to know more but wait did you say hard soaking yeah it's shifted into hard soaking i'm so sorry if you're new here because we might get some new listeners because of this show i'm sorry welcome to brav bros but we get to meet more or get to know more about demi and brett and uh brett's 46 to me is 29 we don't age shame here it is what it is but i guess taylor was flirty with brett she was giving him the business a little bit putting feelers out there maybe putting a pineapple up on the door i don't know

what what do you think mormons put on the door for swinging a snowflake or is that too ross lick i was going to say i was going to say an upside down snowman yeah oh i like that yeah let's go with that i like that upside down a snowman without a snowman without the carrot or the carrot and then it's up to you to supply the carrot oh that's actually not bad you've thought about this too much that's gross but i just thought of it no it's gross you're gross um it's like for instrument all over again no damn it there it is didn't need that we still don't know what that p word was from the bachelorette but we'll find out someday but maybe we'll get uh jeremy on and ask him yeah but taylor yeah but taylor

allegedly flirty with brett brett brett was into it brett was definitely into it because brett ended that night with ah we might have to have a sleepover so he was feeling it which leads me to believe further that there's more happening here because why is brett into it why are you telling people that brett was into it yeah that's the other thing is now you're just opening another door but it could be one of those situations where if i give you some information that's a little salacious but we didn't if i don't say that we did it you might say that i cut it off right then and there and i'm willing to share that right but they're all probably doing it like every time that they talk about their husbands i'm like no yeah they were involved like a thousand percent

husbands seemed to be way more into it because all of them alluding to their husbands like the one i think maybe it was macy i'm not entirely sure or jesse i think it was jesse was like yeah i could tell because my husband was standing there and i think it was was Taylor's husband was kind of putting feelers out there and said, like, oh, was it sharing? Was that what the first time we heard sharing? Like, oh, would you share? That's the first time we heard sharing, yeah. Or did he say, I'm not going, that's what it was.

Like, he was putting a feeler out there. And then his response was, oh, I'm not sharing. Again, I don't, I don't, somebody's sharing. Somebody's sharing. But we're back with all of the mom talkers and we find out that Whitney's coming home. She's been in Hawaii for two months. She fled the scene of the scandal is what she would like you to believe. Correct.

But the ladies are already privy to a little bit of information. I guess there's a big Reddit about these women is where most of the information's coming from is Reddit based. But apparently, Connor, who is Whitney's husband, who has five different hairstyles in one episode. So confused. very confusing extremely confusing especially because the first time we see him he has bleach blonde hair and then he has a shirt bleach blonde blair bleach blonde hair and a mustache yes and then he doesn't have blonde hair he's got a buzz he kind of has mustache yeah and then we see pictures of him when he was getting married which was a couple years ago and he looks completely different there so i was

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but they're all speculating about it and it's also funny because they're like oh it's Connor like you know way like is is the vibe that I'm catching I'm like oh wow all right so maybe it was just I guess what ended up happening quote unquote was that they had pictures from high school of Connor and somebody made a fake page for Connor and it wasn't real as soon as i heard it i'm like oh 100% this dude had a at a tender in hawaii like that it wasn't high school pictures and if it was he's the one that put the high school pictures to build himself an alibi and be like no i haven't seen these pictures in years my pictures from facebook i don't even go on facebook anymore exactly like come on

connor you're not going to slide one past us buddy so nice try i will get to way more of that as we start to dissect with you and connor because holy shit and that's where we're headed now because we get Whitney and Connor and they're talking about the scandal and there was too many rumors. So we had to move to Hawaii for two months to get away. We bought a house sight unseen. Yep. So I'm not sure what the dudes do. We don't know about any dude jobs yet. I do know that these women are making a fuck ton of money or made a fuck ton of money at the peak of mom talk because they all live very lavish lifestyles they have nice houses nice cars nice everything and they are the breadwinners they say they're the breadwinners they've been bringing home the bacon for a while which

is awesome good for them but we don't know what the dudes do so they buy this house the house is gorgeous by the way but whitney's also she's a snake bro she is a fucking snake and i'm calling it now she is two face to shit she moves she's going to be how many episodes have you watched uh two Okay. Well, you're not calling it now because she's already a snake in the second episode. Well, she's snaking in a second one. I just mean more so I think that she is going to move the most or the best in a reality show scenario. I think she knows how to play the game is what I'm gathering from her. Yeah, I think more than anybody else. I mean, I think that you could say Taylor is Taylor. I don't think. Taylor's the wild card. That's why they are where they are is because of Taylor probably.

and yeah i would say Whitney is the best equipped the rest of them macy's got a good head on her shoulders i could see her going back and forth a little bit but yeah macy's good macy's macy's the middle middle of the road where she's yeah she's middle of the road like at any given time i could see her just fully saying yes to one side and then going back and finding out information and talking shit so i think she's the best let's put it this way i'm going to say Whitney is the ringleader of the snakes yes taylor is taylor and i'm absolute wild card and then i've got macy being best equipped to go back and forth i agree with that

i think that she's the most level headed that we've seen thus far and uses uses the most logic up until this point um but yeah i i think that's an accurate breakdown of where they all stand but uh she lets us know what mom talk did for her rejuvenated my life which is cool like she got married and then she was like oh is this the rest of my life mom gave her something new to look forward to. And now she's ready to connect. She's ready to connect. She just needs to have a couple of tough conversations.

That also changes rapidly, which is why I don't believe anything she's saying. But this is where I started to not trust them because they crack open that bottle of champs. They're having some champs. And both of them have to announce, I've never had this before, which may be true, maybe not. I'm not here to say whether or not they've had a drink. what bothered me was the reaction like okay you like stop it like just have a sip and be like i don't like that and pour it out don't be like oh my god and then go rinse your mouth out with water you're worried about the floors because you spilled a little champagne oh my god the floors

all right connor settled down buddy i don't i don't like him out of the gate by the way he no no definitely not obviously but um no i didn't care for them opening the champagne and say is this what people like to drink it's like yeah people spend money on this like shut up shut up like you dork like yeah you don't have to be that guy you can just say i don't like it but yeah people spend thousands of dollars for one bottle of champagne so yes people people like this and you know that because you see alcohol advertisements and people drinking champagne so you know that they like that so don't say that because it's fucking annoying i get i bet we're gonna have some sort of water somali at some point oh i can only hope maybe they'll bring the guy from uh vanderpump over and he'll

bring the cum water. Yeah, that's what we need. Remember that? That was a thing. His hair and cum water. Yeah. If you are new here, you're really getting broken in. But we get to meet Michaela, and Michaela and Jace and Michaela's mom was a church leader.

So she grew up in probably one of the more traditional homes, the more traditionally Mormon homes, if you will. But didn't know how to process this one, trying to look at it through the of this is this is the Mormon religion uh still don't agree with it um she was pregnant at 16 which i was like okay um sure fine she goes jace was 21 i was like oh no no i don't like that i don't like that no actually and then the forced marriage as well no yeah all of it was really i don't like it but don't like it and then i felt like she was almost like reaching out by saying jace hates my tic talks and you know people just think he hates me i'm like

does he blink twice if you need help yeah i don't like this no no yeah that was very uncomfortable that's one of those situations from the mormon church that i'm like kind of want to know more but i don't know if i can take any more of this right now maybe uh siver it down for a little bit and then we'll talk about it later i need to know more i do but i don't want to I get, yeah, that's the correct response. I need to, but I don't want to. That's it. I need to know more.

I'm afraid to find out more. Yeah, there we go. Yep. Yeah. Okay, cool. We got on the same page, but Michaela and Whitney are at lunch, and it's the first time that they're going to see Taylor, and they're a little apprehensive about it, understandably so, and Whitney hasn't told her anything.

She didn't tell her she was moving away, didn't tell her she was moving back. That being said, based on what happened with the TikTok video. do i don't think you were owed an explanation taylor i i feel like taylor's not grasping the gravity of what she did not at all i feel like she's just kind of like yeah she's she's like you guys left me in this situation and everybody distanced themselves from me and i don't know why it's like you should yeah you should and from the sounds of it you didn't talk to anybody about doing it before you did it you just took it upon yourself to go do it based on a reddit thread that's a bad idea It's a really bad idea.

Reddit never leads to good ideas. Like going down a Reddit rabbit hole is never, whatever you feel after going through a deep dive on a Reddit thread should not be your first response because you're probably not in a good place after that. And we know this from experience. Yeah. Okay. So the good, here's the best thing you can do if you're in the public eye at all.

don't go on Reddit. It is a dark, dark place. Yes. She didn't do that. And so Whitney's asking a lot of very realistic questions. She's like, why did you post that? I don't trust you. I felt betrayed.

I feel like that could have been handled totally differently. Are you going to, if we do start a friendship and I tell you anything, are you going to put me on blast to everybody? Are they going to know all my shit? I don't trust you. All valid. Yep. Taylor's response is fucking nuts. she's like, what, you want me to be sorry? I'm not sorry for me. And it's like, that's the worst

thing you could have said, literally the worst thing you could have said. Oh, God, Taylor's mindset going into that conversation was she betrayed me by leaving me here. I was left to fight alone and did not understand that she was fighting something that she didn't need to. You created this way worse than it ever was and ever had to be. Whitney was getting out of Dodge for another reason, but we'll blame you for it because you are a very easy scapegoat based on the timing. And yes, that's it. All you had to do in there was go in with your tail between your legs and say, look, but you guys in a really bad position, I'm sorry, but, and you can hold on to a little bit of pride here,

but numbers are booming. Yeah. So you're welcome. You're welcome. But also you're welcome. I'm really sorry, but you're welcome. Yep. Would be the correct way to go about it, but instead she takes the, I'm not sorry.

approach and Michaela jumps in and it's like you know it felt like you were trying to drag everyone else you saw your name getting dragged on on reddit and you're like oh i'm gonna fuck everybody over which is 100% what she did like there's no other real way to look at it she acted out of impulse she that's the other thing it's like tweeting when you're pissed off just don't don't go on any live platform when you're not in a good mood if you've just seen some salacious things about yourself like let's not go on a live forum in front of 60,000 people and air out everybody's dirty laundry that just doesn't seem I even thought it was weird in the beginning of this show like wow these ladies really want to be on TV the

fact that they're even talking to Taylor again is baffling to me because she fucked up your whole life like especially if you're in that crew and you actually genuinely weren't soft swinging then you're now under fire and everyone's questioning your relationship they're questioning your marriage or questioning your morals the church has probably got you on our microscope there's probably bugs in your house all because she wanted to go off the rails on a goddamn tick talk live and it just seems not worth it although like you said those numbies be booming those numbies were booming i also love that we go from uh don't go down reddit it's a very dark place to find things out and get you upset to being angry on Twitter.

You're really killing right now. This is steel bingo. It's from experience. Once again, I've gotten so much better. It was just a one day thing that I really went off the rails. But I learned a lot from it. Don't respond is the correct response to anything. Just don't.

When you want to, text shooter. That's the rules now. Oh, no, please don't. Nobody, you can, but no one else. I don't want anybody else. Oh, yeah. no not other people this is what i have this is what rules uh have been imparted on me um if i feel a certain way i'm supposed to text shooter or dev but not twitter yeah

text twitter not twitter don't text twitter but she has a good rebuttal taylor's got a decent rebuttal because she's like it's it's interesting that you all have this stance about me that you've all seemingly written me off because while you're so upset about this all of you have been making TikToks about it, which I was like, great counterpoint. It's a great counterpoint because are you really mad or do those numbies be booming? No, so I took that a little differently anyway. I think that they had to make those TikToks because if you don't deflect it with a little bit of comedy and create some content, people are going to be like, all right, they're all part

of this. But if you deflect it a little and you make some funny TikToks, you're going to be able to bring in more numbers. They probably get a lot more followers after that scandal because I heard about mom talk during the scandal. I didn't know what it was before then, but I heard about the scandal at the time. I think I'd heard the term, but didn't know what it was. Yeah, I mean, you probably just kind of figured it was just moms on TikTok and it's like, that was what I imagine where my brain went. Yeah, exactly. But yes, it got you numbers, but of course you're going to put them out there to try

to distance yourself from Taylor. Taylor's coming into this like not understanding that they had to do that. And she's, she's thinking, okay, so yeah, you're going to make a big joke about it. And she thinks that she's the butt of the joke. It's like, no, you kind of put us in this position. We had to fight our way out via TikTok. Okay. So I don't blame them. I don't blame them for that. I don't, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's no blame. You're putting blame out there. There's blame on Taylor for sure. Yeah. I'm just saying it's hard to be fully like, fuck you, Taylor, when you are still profiting often in some way,

shape, or form. That's all. I agree with you. That's a good way to deflect is like, oh, no, she fucked us all. This isn't happening. Stop looking into my stuff. Please. Don't ask me where my husband was last night. Um, that's mean but let's keep going because this is this is really what i wanted to talk about this is the uh chef's kiss of episode one didn't see this come that's what this show does do everyone's a mess everything's a fucking mess and it's so good but we get back to whitney and connor they miss hawaii and you can tell something's off i could tell something was weird from the jump with these two something didn't seem totally copacetic with them and we find

not why and she's like i don't want to lie about it anymore i'm like oh fuck yeah what are we getting into here and it's the tinder thing i thought it was going to be i thought it was going to be that she was involved that's what i was waiting for and i was like uh this is good too i'll take this yeah i thought the tinder thing was nolan void at this point i thought that the ladies that were talking about connor made me think like oh maybe it wasn't like i said in my brain when i heard the high school pictures i was like oh no it was him but up until that that point when they're like, he's a nice guy. I'm like, all right, maybe it wasn't. And then we get confirmation here. His response. Oh, dude. His reaction to this. What was your take on

Connor's reaction? Then I'll give you mine. Well, first off, I had to get over the fact that he no longer had blonde hair. So that was that took a while. That took a long time for me to get through. I had to watch this scene twice because of that. I'm not going to lie. I was distracted by the hair. But. Yeah. No. Him. going through this, it looked like, to me, they had a conversation before cameras started rolling. We're going to talk about this. We're going to do this. And he didn't want to. He did not want to do this at all. And it looked like he was just going to let Whitney take the reins. And he was going to cry. It looked like he was already crying when we first saw him. It just, like you said,

when they started the conversation, you could tell something was off. And I think it's because they already had the conversation. They just had this conversation like five minutes ago before the camera started rolling. And he was scared shit. And this is one of those aspects of the Mormon church that we're going to see. When you bring things on camera, all of a sudden, everybody's going to find out about it. And I think he was petrified about going through this conversation. And you could also tell that he wasn't giving more information. He wasn't talking more about it because there is way more to the story.

And we find out a little bit later in the next scene when Whitney's telling everybody else. But he knows that there's more. And I took it as one of those, I told you a couple of heads. half truths in there and i don't want to get caught in a lie because i'm a little overwhelmed right now with the cavers rolling so i'm going to let you talk about most of this and then i'm just going to try to like break up a little bit and wipe my like you know when you're crying you you tend to stick your entire finger in your eye like conner did and dude i agree with everything you said i don't think he really feels bad that's what i got from this scene i think that that the

tears were oh yeah 50 50 real i was like i don't know and the way and the way that he goes immediately to like i hate talking about what i did to you and it makes me look like a victim and in this scene the way that you're behaving makes you seem like you're a victim because the next thing you say is like i had a real problem and i'm working on it and in my mind i'm like what's your fucking problem come to find out he's claiming porn addiction and i don't want to take away from anybody's addictions and you know that however putting the pieces together here in my brain what I'm hearing is I had a tinder for our entire marriage by the way that's the real time I not Hawaii is whole entire marriage I had a tender I got caught so I'm claiming porn

addiction crying and leaning on the church for help that's what I've gathered from this which I think is horseshit I don't buy Connor for a second I think he's full of shit I think he's pissed off that he got caught he's trying to weasel his way out of it and if we know anything from Roslick, we know that the men in the Mormon church will get a pass. So if he plays this way where it's like, woe is me, I let you down. I'm so sorry. I'm paying for my sins. I'm getting better. I had a problem. That's what happened. I didn't cheat on you. I had a problem. It's like this sounds, if it took you this long, sir, if you had a Tinder for the entirety of your marriage, the whole time, if it had been just Hawaii, okay, fine, I'll hear you out.

The whole marriage, the only reason you feel any type of way about it, it's because you got caught. You don't feel bad. You got busted. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything, like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime.

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Oh, you just did a little. Yeah, I was forgiving. Thank you. Appreciate that. But look, I'm not an expert on port addiction. But I don't want to take away from addictions. I do not want to do that. I'm saying from.

Well, I'm just wondering how does it go from, yeah, I'm addicted to internet porn to, oh, yeah, I'm just like full-blown cheating on you. And like, that's part of it. It's not. It's just, no, there are two very different things. That's my whole point. They're two extremely different things. The porn addiction, okay, if you want to talk about that, if that's a real thing, let's focus on that.

The porn addiction did not create a Tinder profile that you've had for three years with children, with your wife. the only reason you are now discussing it and acting like you're upset and that you're remorseful for it is because you got caught if you actually cared you wouldn't have had a tinder for three years bro like you cannot claim woe is me i have a fucking problem when you were doing some other shady shit like you just said those are two different things porn addictions here tinder profile for three years is here they're different you cannot use that and put them together and say help me i'm poor it doesn't fucking work i don't buy it i don't buy it for a second conner's full of

shit do you think connor and uh taylor hooked up soft soft soft soft soft soft soft soft i was i wouldn't say soft swing and i just i like soft soaked better well yeah soft so i do i think he's involved yes i think the connor's one of the people that's involved i think they're all involved honestly in some capacity i think so too i don't think we're whitney will never cop to that part of it I don't think. And I think that the only reason she copped to this is she knew it was going to come out. Again, the same thing with Connor being like quote unquote remorseful about it is because he got caught. I think she knew that the gig was up and she just wanted to get it out there before anyone else did. But we get to the mom talk support group and, you know, they're

talking about this whole thing because Whitney comes clean about everything. She tells the whole group about the Tinder for the whole marriage, like why she actually went to Hawaii, which is really funny because she has 100% been leaning on the fact that this was Taylor's fault. I left because of you, Taylor. She apologized to her in the middle of it. She did. She did. Here's where I have

an issue because now Taylor's upset. It's like, well, look, can you be a little annoyed that she put the onus on you? Okay, fine. Yeah, it's a little irritating. But it's not like she brought the thunder down on you because she just used this to avoid

talking about the Tinder thing. Like, you brought the smoke upon yourself she just cashed in on it was like oh perfect i'm going to hawaii uh you did it by you could be annoyed but i don't think she has the right to be like fuck whitney this is ridiculous she put it all on me it's like no you made the fucking tic talk that was what happened so you're still the asshole you're definitely still the asshole but i do love everybody's being somewhat supportive but these are the same women that days ago we're talking about how connor would never be able to do that. And also talking, oh, sorry, go ahead. Did they look shocked at all? None of them look shocked. No. Like, none of them looked remotely shocked. They're like, uh, kind of figured that.

It's like, did you? Because a couple of days ago. And I think maybe this is just they have to get their reality TV feet wet a little bit because we should have gotten that scene a couple days ago. And instead of them saying, oh, no, no, no, like they don't, they don't share or there's nothing weird going on over there to this where you're clearly not shocked. It would have been better if they had a shit talking post like a just a good support group of shit talking talking about Connor and talking about how yeah he probably did that and then they all actually felt yeah like just speak your truths and just do it because I thought it was interesting but I do agree with you Whitney got ahead of it a Reddit post was probably going to pop off where he's been on it for years

somebody's going to point it out and then everything's going to hit all the shit's going to hit the fan at one time so yeah she got ahead of it at the time I was like oh she's talking about how she's lying to everybody but then she immediately cops to it anyway so it's not that big of a deal but taylor is just sitting over there like a hot little potato no i've gone through some drama too right guy it was so dude i wrote down whitney had her trauma thunder stolen she's not happy about it because it flashes over to whitney and she's like i cannot believe that i just shared all of this trauma i'm being open with the group and taylor's going to start talking about her It. I thought it was kind of funny, though, because I, in that moment, I was a bit of a Taylor apologist. I started to think, well, Whitney, this is really hard to talk about. And you even said it was really hard to talk about. So maybe Taylor's just taking a little bit off your plate. Hey, guys, let's talk about my shit. And we'll leave Whitney alone for a little while. She got her truth off. She got everything off her chest. Everybody now knows what's going on with Connor. Let's talk about my stuff. And then when I actually thought about that, I'm like, no, no, she absolutely just stole her thunder.

she stole her thunder but at the same time in defense of taylor and not that i'm like a taylor apologist by any means but in her defense whitney what more do you have to share what more do you need the group they empathized with you they sympathized with you they said oh my god that's so sad are you guys okay you said yeah do you want them to ask more specific questions like probably i don't know i don't know i thought the same thing you did where when taylor started in my brain And I'm like, oh, this is just like, you know, they're all together for the first time in a while. Let's get it all. Let's get everything out there.

Let's talk about all. Here's what's going on with me and Connor. We're not doing great because he's being weird. Here's what I'm going through. I found out that I was about four weeks pregnant. I may have miscarried or had an ectopic pregnancy, ectopic or had an ectopic pregnancy. Again, it's in line with what the group is doing at the moment. So I did not think it was a trauma thunder moment.

until Whitney pointed it out and I'm like I guess you could you could go that direction but again like what more to you to your point don't you want somebody to now grab the limelight from you and be like okay do you you don't want us to dig do you because you don't

you really don't think that this dude hooked up with anybody after having a Tinder profile for three years are you fucking joking you really don't think that he did like come on he just texted these girls like look if he was if you got on like some weird internet online chat room sharing pictures okay sure you can say he never met up with them i'm like tinder

is is location based so that's what i'm saying people in the area and you think he's just okay with texting them and sending pictures like no come on whitney at least like go the extra mile and continue down this road but yeah i don't know i guess both can definitely be true i think the taylor was stealing the spotlight and talking about her trauma but if you're whitney you should be happy about that not upset because you don't want them to ask more questions because either one you're ignorant to the whole thing and they're going to point something out that you didn't realize and it's going to be worse for you or two you know way more and they're going to ask questions and you're not going to have answers for them so look at the end of the day you should just be happy

that you didn't have to keep going that's what I'm saying because the clock has now started on the first tinder hookup that he had coming out of the woodwork and saying oh no I met up with him three years ago like that's the timeline that's now been started and if bravo has taught us anything eventually that will come out yeah and so she could do herself a lot of favors honestly if she just at this point you know i would think that having a secret tinder profile for the duration of your marriage is just as if not worse than him hooking up with somebody in real life like that's three years of deception it's actually said it's worse than the soft swinging that was happening over at least people were in agreement there that's another great point that's a great

point taylor's getting thrown under the bus for this swinging thing oh my god she brought a bad name to ticot mom talk like fuck taylor it's like wait hold on your man stepping out on you via tinder for the past three years but let's not throw any smoke there that's not worth it let's point all the blame on taylor i want to bring mom talk back to its glory days about bringing up women and down with the patriarchy and I don't have any skeletons in my closet. Connor, go hide for a minute. I don't want to tell anybody about you yet. But that's bullshit.

You cannot put all of the emphasis on her for doing something that all parties were in agreement with, by the way, until she obviously hard swung instead of soft swung. Yeah. But how is that different? Because what happened with you, your man stepped out on you and now you're copying to. I guess you weren't involved, Whitney, so it's not as bad because it doesn't damage the brand. then lied about it for God knows how long. And are still, honestly, I don't think we got the whole story at all. I definitely think it the whole story. And she definitely knows more than she's leading on.

But yeah, no, that just kind of struck me. That's definitely worse than soft soaking. Yep. One hundred percent, I think. Because at least in the soft soaking, all members of the marriages are present in an agreement that this is going to occur. Connor is sending dick picks on Tinder to women in his area sounds worse to me hot singles in your area hot singles in your area and they have blonde hair and a mustache but anyway we get to meet with taylor and dakota so we get to know dakota a little bit uh he does not look anything like jillen hall it could not be further from jillen hall but they seem to have something i guess like he's talking about marriage and being in the church he's talking about a sobriety and saying that he can't be with

her if she's got a party she's not having any of that by the way because she wants to go that night i'm getting wasted baby boy did she but about this scene what what did you gather from these two together other than this is a very toxic relationship oh it's an incredibly toxic relationship they were just love bombing each other and again this is three months after her divorce and they asked TikTok if they should actually be together so wrong bad bad idea him bad really bad I got a such a bad vibe from Dakota I do not like Dakota I didn't get a good vibe either creep but and that's more for episode number two uh other than that yeah it really just kind of struck me when when Taylor's just like yeah I'm getting wasted tonight because I just went

through a lot of shit it's like you know maybe that's never a good reason to get wasted yeah you know maybe maybe heal from that or as uh leanne likes to say hill because oh my god everybody says it dude phil hill it's like it's a whole cast of whitneys everybody says hill and phil any double e is an i l i know welcome to salt lake or where are they provo provo i think yeah wherever they are Utah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. They're in Utah. They're in Utah. Yep. Yeah, they're in Utah. And I guess a couple of youths. A couple of youths, you know, not the my cousin Vinnie Utes. But this episode ends. Again, you can't have a more action-packed first episode of any reality TV show just as far as the spectrum of shit that can go wrong. That's what separates this show from any. other reality shows premiere because the level of shit that goes south is just insane we have so much we have cheating scandals swinging scandals pregnant out of wedlock pregnant out of wedlock again we've got

fucking and then we've got this big cherry on top at the end which i'm not going to call a cherry on top because it's a very serious situation but we get this sweet bedtime scene with all the families good say your prayers this that the other flash over to a black screen like we're watching an episode of cops and it's got the transcript of a call to 911 from a neighbor breaking down like i don't know what's going on over there's a lot of loud noises the garage keeps opening and shutting it sounds like domestic violence it doesn't seem good whatever we don't know who it is yet until they say the the x thing i'm like okay so this is taylor because i know that she split with her ex and they share custody. I don't know what's going on over there. Please get on the scene. Taylor is wasted

and throwing things, throwing chairs. She claims that Dakota threw her in the garage and threw up against a wooden thing. She's wasted. He's sober. I'm not going to speculate on what transpired in that house. What I do know is that she got slapped with three years of probation. I'm not sure did she do time or was she just in there like overnight i think she was just there overnight i don't think that she had any time involved or we would have yeah did i sound cool there did she do yeah do she get uh locked up in the clink yeah i don't think she did any time the slammer nice nice nice up in uh up in fulsome is that where you do it i don't know i just think of Johnny Cash, Pulse and Prism Blues, Jesus.

But yeah, this scene is not, this isn't good, obviously. This is a very serious situation, and hopefully they're able to figure out a way forward, not together, by the way, and watch episode two. They really should not be together. I don't like Dakota. I don't think I like Taylor either. I'm not sure that I could pinpoint which one of them is the problem, but they're both a problem, especially together.

like this is this is textbook toxic relationship love bombing insults fucking over-the-top fights and then followed by i'm sure love bombing and over-the-top sex like this is just a disaster waiting to get worse then we get the scenes from the rest of the season low and behold and they also mention it because it cuts to like a little cutscene of taylor she's like oh man you know i had all of this and then a lost pregnancy then another pregnancy I was like, wait, what? And it flashes immediately to a picture of her with a bump. And they're measuring the bump.

I'm like, holy shit. This is a disaster. Yeah, a lot happened in the previews for the entire season. I would have preferred it, although I guess because all of the episodes dropped at once, it doesn't really matter. But I definitely would have preferred it if that we started off for the second episode, just seeing Taylor and she's just kind of talking about everything that happened at the end of episode one.

And then you flashed down and it's like the shock. Like, whoa. I mean, it was still shocking. Oh, it was baffling. They could have changed up a little bit better. And I was very, yeah, no, I was very confused. So it looks like that's what I was pointing out earlier. So I, yeah, I guess it's six months after that first episode is the second episode.

But they didn't say six months. You're still left to speculate. She's a lot more pregnant is all I know. So when she was talking about Mrs. in the beginning of the second episode, she was talking about her probation. She says three months. No, no. Oh, okay. It was every month.

Three years of probation. Then she was going every month until she hit six months and she just hit her six-month mark. So then it's there. So we're like six, seven months later. Okay, I like that. I like that. That's a good, that helps me a lot, actually. I haven't watched episode three yet.

If we're another six months, I don't be really pissed. Yeah, I don't think so. I think they have a solid day. I'm wondering what was that? It must have been like an alternate universe. Maybe this doesn't exist. Oh, I wonder if the arrest had some. thing to do with the delay i would imagine that might have caused some problems so like now we got

to push production until you get this shit figured out but we got some great shit so that's episode one we did i mean that was episode one and my god like when i tell you that i was just i was floored everything's kept popping up i'm like jesus christ what are you guys doing like this group is just flammable yeah and i can't wait to see them catch fire like i there's so much there's clearly so much more here not to mention the show is called secret lives of mormon wives which alludes to they all have secrets that's all they talked about in the scenes from the season is secret secret secrets who's got a secret we're going to find the secrets we've all i can't wait everyone's got secrets and really the bottom line what's your favorite secret

tell me what's your secret uh my favorite secret is going to be who else was involved in the boinking or the soft boinking, if you will. I need to know because they're lying. Some of them are lying. All of them are lying. All I can gather for sure based on what they said and the husband's interactions is that at least the husband's banged. That's all I've got thus far. I don't know which of the women were involved, but the husbands clearly were.

Yeah. I don't know which we've got to meet more of the husbands. That's my goal for this season. As much as I know that I'm going to hate them, I do want to see them. I do too. I think it's vital to understanding more about this show. Like if we don't get to meet them, that's where I'm going to take an issue because we're trying, look, we unravel here. That's what we do.

We're looking for the ins and outs. We're looking for a little leg up. We like to feel smart. So we like to predict. And I don't have enough information to predict yet because I haven't met. I feel like the husbands are the missing piece of this puzzle. Yeah. I think the predictions for something like this,

because all the episodes are out, we're going to have to make predictions at the end of the season. Oh, for next year. I guess you're right. Yeah, that makes sense. But all right, uh, let's see. We got some questions. The OG question. Wow, we got a lot of questions. Oh, yeah. Love that. Love that. Let's start out with. Oh, a lot of statements. Uh, this one is shocking if true. I don't know if I can read that one. Yeah, we can read it. cares okay from witten or sorry from stacey oh whitney lied and said tinder it was all over tic talk that he was actually on grinder so that would be a secret that would be a secret especially in the mormon church that's a much bigger secret wow i didn't know that interesting interesting

interesting okay from come uh you come i haven't done this in too long camma you're 87 who's the real villain of the show and why is it zach i don't know who zach is yet no i think that's like episode three or four probably oh i love this uh from gretchen ryerson define soft swinging not not what we've been told about it okay if i approached you and said hey did you hear about the talkers soft swinging what would you think that was oh all right real answer i would say that they're going on dates with each other that's like they're not doing any sexual things and it's mormons so they're just going on some dates okay knowing what you know from salt lake like rossick wouldn't you assume there was more to it than that because we've already found out that a lot of them are

hypocrites nope okay going on dates soft swing all right uh gretchen to answer your question actually it's everything but sex apparently is what soft swinging entails that's what we've been told so yeah there you go i like shooters answer better just a little movie date and like hit an arcade or something with somebody else's wife yeah i don't know uh that sounds terrible but uh oh from john John Cratelli, a little crossover question. Who could you see on Roslick? Real Housewives of Salt Lake. Who could we get to go over there?

I've got two in my mind. Michaela and I think Jesse would be an interesting one just for like the, she'd be like a Heather Gay competitor or something and they would be involved in the hair business. I think, yeah, I could see Jesse. My two would be Macy. I think she could handle herself over there. And Whitney, I think she could handle herself as well. I think she'd be an even bigger villain over there.

Not saying that she's the villain yet. I don't know enough. But I think that she would do fine in a housewife setting. Yeah. From Jules MB2. How is everyone okay with a 16-year-old getting pregnant by a 21-year-old and forced to marry? We're not.

We are not. Not even remotely. that was a big big sticking point with me as i watched the show is how much i did not care for that knowledge let the brav bros be the moral compass here we uh we don't support that no that's fucking weird that was upsetting to hear actually and the fact that it was so ho hum even more so i was like this is a fucking problem but whatever let's do a few more oh this is a great breakdown from cocoanutzo whitney seeks attention and victimizes herself after being caught in her her actions. I agree. I don't think she has any accountability for her side of the street.

It's a great breakdown. Especially if she's involved in the swinging. If she's involved in the swinging, then her credibility is completely out the window. It already is close, but after that, yeah. And her credibility went into question when she broke down Connor's scenario, which like you said, it's clearly scripted. They clearly came up with a plan. Yeah. And apparently may not have been the whole story. And to that point, I saw one on here. Hold on one suck. Modera 29 said, love the show, but do you also feel like the swingers storyline was a bait and switch? I hope not. Because right now it does kind of seem like it where it's like, yes, we are being launched into this because of the swingers stuff, but we're not, you know,

we're talking about Taylor's role in that, but nobody else is copying to it. I really do hope at some point this season or at the very end or next season or whatever that somebody shed some light on who exactly was involved because there are other people talking about how I saw another question in there saying that there were people involved in the swinging but they're not on the show and if so why which i can't wrap my head around well i would imagine that if there were swingers involved yeah they don't want to be in the spotlight they probably want to keep that they probably already dealt with enough fallout with the ticot thing that they don't want to deal with it even more on tv yeah uh let's do one more uh valid question uh from k sparklic

oh fucking k sparkle k damn it from k sparkle k where are the kids i don't know i saw whitney's kids i haven't seen taylor's kids i thought we saw lela and whitney were hanging that was episode two episode two yeah layla and witton well we we kind of saw whitney's kids in the car although they were kind of trapped behind boxes yeah but the kids were back there too no i understand that but we didn't see them you just saw boxes and heard talking to the But then I was concerned because they were packed up where the boxes were in between and there's kids on either side. That seems unsafe.

Was the kid in the box? Maybe the kid was in the box. Ah, Travel Sparta. What's going on in Utah? That's a loaded question, pal. I don't know. I was also hoping you would get the reference, but you didn't get it. Oh, fuck.

No, it's a, it's an NBA, Brian Winhorst. Oh, okay. Do you remember the meme? Where he's sitting there like this? No. What's going on? No, all right. Somebody will get it.

You stump me on that one. Someone will get it. But, yeah, all in all, I got two words. Holy shit. Like, this show is more than I thought it was going to be. I was not ready for this. Very excited. Yeah, we're going to do potentially two more episodes tomorrow.

Definitely at least one, probably two. We should just knock it out. And then we'll do three next week. and then we'll wrap up the following um and tell you're talking to me or the audience both i don't know why the audience needs to know that but um that's this is a little glimpse inside to how we operate yep does seem like a good idea yeah cool okay cool great but yeah uh looking forward to finishing it up and uh you got anything else nope nope well elder russell is out of here bye bro bro bro you out here bye

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