Bros & Shows - Huda Hell Voted for Iris and Jeremiah?!? (Love Island Ep. 9-12 Full recap
Episode Date: June 17, 2025What is Up Bros?!? This show has just reached a new level. Sunday nights episode was earth shattering. We recap the last 3 episodes in this. We talk all the couples, Chelley and Austin with the Ace ou...tlier, are Taylor and Olandria the real deal or is he not invested? Charlie and Hannah finally reach a great place before disaster strikes. Meanwhile, Pepe is making waves in the house while Jalen swoops in on Olandria. Huda and Jeremiah is getting progressively more toxic and it ends in absolute shocking fashion. The viewers have spoken and we are fed up! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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That was the best episode of TV I've ever watched in my life.
Sunday Night Prime Time is back.
It's a big way.
So back.
and shows, bros and shows, I gotta have me
my bros and shows.
Good evening, everybody.
Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows.
I'm your co-host, Steele Russell,
joined as always by the one and only
Shooter Bombshell Gooder.
What's up, dude?
This was the closest, I think, I've ever come
to calling an emergency podcast.
Really?
After last night.
Last night watching it, I wanted to just get into it right away.
I'm happy, though, that, you know, some 17 or 18 hours later.
We're sitting here.
I've had time to collect my thoughts because I was very conflicted last night.
Really?
Interesting.
In regards to what?
We won't get into it yet, but just a little cliffhanger for later.
We'll progress through as we have in the first two episodes that we've done.
The recoupling in America's vote.
There was a bit of an over.
oversight that I feel like for we'll get into the oversights later but something happened in there that I didn't expect and I was like oh yeah maybe we got a little fixated on one thing oh interesting deep deep I'm looking forward to that yeah my biggest takeaway from these three episodes as you guys know we lump like three or four episodes in depending if it's the first half of the week or the second half of the week this is obviously the second half of last week I have a feeling 60% of this
episode is just going to be the recoupling from Sunday night.
I mean, it probably should be.
20% where the fuck the page go.
Right? What the hell are there? I do have an answer to that.
But thankfully, it took me a while.
But yeah, so yeah, we did this the other day.
We're lumping these together. We're going to work through all the important points.
And then we'll get to it.
So let's start with couples.
Yep.
I like to do that so we know everybody stands.
Couples as of episode nine, right?
Yeah.
Couples leading into episode 12.
So episode 9,
we're doing 9, 10, and 12.
We're not doing after Sun for obviously.
I did watch after Sun, but.
How was it?
It wasn't bad.
It's actually kind of interesting.
So they did have Janay and Serena from last season come in,
which a lot of people were really excited for.
But it is almost exactly what we do.
Okay.
They're just breaking down what's going on.
And then there's like a couple of little extras.
And Nick and Ace had joined the show for a little bit,
just kind of talking about it.
Both of them had cold sores.
Very interesting.
And kissed people.
Yeah.
I don't know what's going on with all that.
I don't either, because Nick was in the wood chop challenge, and he had a thing on his
lip.
And I was like, hmm, interesting.
And then he was smooching.
I guess it's going to happen.
What do you mean?
If one person gets a cold sore, they're all going to have it.
I mean, that's true.
But like, if one person gets the cold sore, they should probably sequester until a cold sore
is gone, no.
It's Love Island.
I don't know.
I did think this, though.
Should we ask Fauci?
I did tell Dev.
Fauci was like the correspondent in the villa.
It's like we need to go to a resident doctor because they do have a resident therapist.
I did find that.
Yeah, I heard that too.
So that is definite.
But we need we need a doctor in there.
Well, I had this question to Dev earlier.
They all have to get tested before the show.
They do.
STD testing.
Like, all right.
Full scale, like everything gets tested.
That's what I figured.
In case you're having sex with the lights on.
I'm missing that reference
Jeremiah and Huda
Oh
Dude I have so much to say
Lights were on
No I know
But everybody was home
I just
We'll get into all of that
Oh that was a good one
Where they stand in episode 9
This is before the pancake dilemma
But what I've noticed
Everything
That Huda
says, seems to irritate Jeremiah.
Yeah.
Like, you can tell she's trying to make a little joke and he's like rolling his eyes.
He does that laugh thing a lot where she says something.
He's like, oh, man.
So you can see the cracks in the foundation.
Yeah.
There's a lot of cracks in that foundation.
The foundation is almost nonexistent at this.
The foundation is toxic sludge.
Yes.
Yes, it's a swamp and it's slowly sinking further and further into that swamp.
But as far as couples go, who do you have confidence in at this point?
Like, who are you looking at going, ooh, they got a shot?
I know Huda and Jeremiah seem to think that they're everybody's favorite couple, which is even funnier to me.
But who do you have, like, ooh, they might actually have a chance.
At this moment in episode nine, this is where it's going to get a little funky.
But we're going to mix it up.
Weirdly, I could see, even though I do think that Nick is just going to chase whoever shows any interest in them because I don't think he has any, like, restraint.
I really like Nick for the show.
I think Nick and Sierra are probably the best couple at this point.
I think so, too.
Because they could just sneakily just kind of like, yeah, you know, they're still exploring,
they're still exploring, and then at some point it could click.
I mean, we still have like 30-some-odd days left, so that's crazy.
There is a chance that at some point the next 30 days, something clicks for them.
They're like, you know what, we're tired of exploring.
Let's just explore ourselves.
And then they just kind of come together because it doesn't look like there's any issues whenever one of them
kind of like explore something like hey i'm going to go sit down and i'm going to go talk to this person
or this person and we saw that with sierra talking to pepe there wasn't a whole lot of interest
on sierra's end she did that because he pulled her she talked to him for a little bit but she was
while not saying i'm closed off or you know i'm really confident me and nick she did have a bit of
a guard up maybe that was just as simple as she wasn't interested in pepe but there are some things
there where it's like yeah you guys seem to be pretty easy going with all of this especially in the
challenges. So I think they're probably right now the strongest couple, but as you know,
and as we've watched this, things change very quickly. Way faster than I ever thought they
would change. I agree with you. And why I like them is because of how they handle themselves
with this whole process. It is a weird process. There are a lot of things that would make you
uncomfortable. Somebody you like is going to talk to somebody else or going to make out with somebody
else, but I, I talked about it last week with Bell Dasha, like Sierra was still pretty cool
with that whole situation, which I respected.
Nick doesn't give a fuck.
He doesn't really give a fuck.
I mean, he makes those jokes here and there, especially doing the challenges where he's obviously
upset because he has to watch Sierra as somebody else.
But like, if you look at all the other couples, I don't think there is a strong, and this
includes Nick and Sierra.
I don't think there is a really strong, like, they're going to go for a long time couple.
Well, then we need to talk about Taylor and Elandria because.
I love them together, and that's not the sentiment of everybody.
This isn't Friend Island.
I understand that.
I don't think so, and this, I think it's insane because O'Landria is gorgeous.
Taylor's not attracted to her.
He's just, he's not.
And I think when we see this, and obviously, you know, episode nine kind of starts off with the spicy kiss challenge, the leather, we get the bombshells coming in.
They're all over the place.
Once a little bit of pressure is applied, that's when Taylor's like, shit, I got to step it up.
I got to do this, I got to do that.
It's because of the pressure that he's stepping.
It's not because he wants, because that's a lander's question.
And that's a valid question.
I'm not sold that that's what's going on.
It could be as simple as to say that he's just more of a slow burn.
That's what I think.
He's just trying to get comfortable and get to know her.
But any time that there is a little bit of pressure and that's when you step it up,
it's pretty easy to say, like, all right, you're trying to speed things up a little faster here.
And Alandri has been really cool about this.
I think she's the coolest on the show, honestly.
She is super chill, super easygoing, and she also has a good head about her where she's looking at other people like, yeah, that's not true.
Like every conversation that she has with Huda, she's looking around like, but who else is like that?
Shelly and Taylor.
Yeah.
So that's why like I'm rooting for them.
So obviously I see those warning signs of, and that's what I said, you know, two episodes ago.
It's like, can they find that spark?
Objectively, I don't know how anybody could not be attracted to a laundry.
She's beautiful.
So I find it really hard to believe that he's not attracted to her.
So my biggest thing with those two, because they seem like such best friends and because
it's so easy when they're talking to each other, I want them so badly to be able to find
that spark that I don't think I can see myself rooting against them ever.
That's the other thing is, I think I said this on last week's episode.
I'm not rooting against Taylor and Elandria.
I think that they could be in the same grouping as what I just.
talked about with Nick and Sierra, something could just click at some point.
That's like, you know what?
You're right.
This is what we want.
It's just hard to watch because Taylor just seems like he's coasting for a little bit.
And Alandria has had multiple conversations with him, with Shelly, with other people in the house about how she wants him to do a little bit more.
And she doesn't think he's interested.
But he's doing some other stuff.
But again, the timing is a suspect.
Timing is a little suspicious.
And I think that at some point, push is going to come to shove.
And we're seeing that now with Jalen coming into the house.
while I don't think that Elandria is attracted to Jalen,
it's still another option for her.
And she's ready, willing, and just going out there to go explore.
Whereas Taylor's like, oh, shit, like, wait.
I got some competition.
I got a competition.
I got to step some things up.
So it's tough to see.
And I do think at some point they're going to have to break the mold.
And they can still be best friends.
I still think that they're both good individually.
I just don't really see them as a couple.
And I would love it if a bombshell were to come in.
You know, we don't really know what's going to happen with Iris and all those things.
Yeah.
Which we'll get into later.
But I would love it if Taylor could find somebody that he can couple up with and Elandri can find somebody that she can couple up with.
And they're both happy.
And then they're still friends.
You know what I want.
What's that?
I want that to happen.
But then as they're coupled up with other people, they realize like, oh, shit.
That could happen.
Yeah.
Taylor was the one.
And Taylor was like, oh, shit.
Elandria was the one.
And then they come back together.
Full circle would be nice.
Absolutely could happen.
I would love that.
Yeah.
I know you're really cheering them on there.
I don't really don't want either of them to go home.
No, I know.
You know, obviously, we're going to, a hand is going to be forced at some point.
We're going to have to make a decision.
But right now, I'm looking at it.
Like, I just don't believe in them as a couple.
But I like them individually.
I can understand that.
I do know that I'm rooting against the majority here.
Yeah.
Like a lot of people see the same things that you see.
It's a different thing that we'll get into later when it comes to the vote.
That's just a different situation.
But this right now, like, yeah, I would love it if they were to somehow come together.
And Taylor is just, he's a little, you know, a little soft around the edges, maybe.
Maybe he's afraid to get involved.
But at some point he's going to have to.
Who's that?
Taylor.
Oh, yeah.
I thought you said somebody else because I was reading the notes over here.
That's fine.
Now, the other couple.
And then I want to talk about the spicy kiss and tell challenge.
But the other couple that's worth noting is Charlie and Hannah.
Mm-hmm.
because they connected quickly.
Yep.
And they seemed to really hit it off.
She was feeling things that she hadn't felt before.
Charlie was, I thought originally just so ready to couple up.
Yeah, he was.
I think he was.
I think that he found something there.
Yeah.
But it seemed like they made a nice connection.
So I actually liked those two together.
It was really hard until we get to episode 12.
We didn't really see a whole lot of them.
No.
And then we saw a lot of them.
And we saw a lot of them.
And it's insane.
But what we saw was just, yeah, you know, before bed, they're kissing.
they're going to bed they're hanging out together pretty much all day they're talking they're
chatting they're not really doing anything else they're not kind of straying away or anything so we're
like oh they seem solid okay i don't really know until you know the bombshells come in then it's like
whoa all right maybe not and well clearly what that does and that's the whole point is it pushes
them to make a move and that's what we want to see but the funny thing is is seeing like the
too little too late yeah not to spoil anything we'll get to that a little bit
later, but that does seem to be something that happens with multiple couples.
Yeah.
It's like the oh, shit moment where it's like, oh, no, I should have done that before.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Charlie and Hannah, oh, shit moment was frantic, to stay the least.
It really was.
The last couple I want to talk about, and then we can just start jumping around a little
bit, because I need to get your take on it.
Austin and Shelley.
What's your take on Austin and Shelley?
I think Austin.
really likes Shelly
I think Shelly's
more playing the game
and seeing what's out there
because she knows almost
Austin's not going to stray
Like I don't care if he goes and makes out
with somebody in a challenge
I don't care if he goes and explores things
Because that's what I'm doing
Well question before you keep going
When they recoupled
An ace picked Amaya
You don't think that if Amaya was still
Available Austin would have picked her
No
Really
I don't think so I think he still would have picked Shelley
I still I think he really like Shelley
I think that the Amaya kiss on the docks when they were just doing, what were they doing?
Meditation or whatever he's doing.
Whatever he does is, I've never seen that form of meditation in my life.
Which is the funniest thing because he's teaching meditation the next day.
And he finally goes in and he goes like this and spreads and then like throws his tongue out there.
Charlie's reaction to that is the funniest thing.
I'm like, what the fuck?
That's the correct reaction.
That is the correct reaction.
I'm so happy that somebody finally did that.
But no, I think we haven't heard Austin talk about Amaya since then.
And he came back, started talking.
talking about Amaya a little bit and then boom.
Well, he was all giddy with Charlie when he was talking about it because they both finally
found somebody and they're both like, oh my God, oh my God.
So I thought that that was the-
It's almost like Ace being involved is what kept Austin involved with Shelly.
Honestly, yeah, I think so.
It's almost like that innate like competition, another guy is coming after a girl that I'm with.
I need to step up and then he just completely left Amaya on the roadside.
I got some question marks about Ace.
I love Ace, first of all.
I think he's great for the show.
I said this early on
I think he's too cool for school
I think he's playing the cool card
way too much
he's definitely playing the cool card
way too much
and when we get into
the conversations with Amaya
I don't believe it
I simply don't believe
that he's that taken aback
by talking to Iris
Oh really
Yeah I think that's a I think that's fake
I don't I actually
To be fair
I don't even think he's really
that much into Shelley
I think he's just going to do that
I think Shelly was the easy pick for him because his competition was Austin.
Yeah, I think he's going to let this.
And it's, if I had to predict what I think I'm going to feel in the future, I think
I'm going to start getting annoyed by Ace and Shelley, and not for Shelley's fault, for Ace's
fault.
I think what Ace is doing is he's kind of stringing her along, doing this and that because
she's easy to talk to and they get along, but he's going to jump at every bomb shell that comes in.
That's what, yeah.
And sometimes it's going to blow up in his face.
a Maya. Sometimes it's not. And I think he's always going to go back to Shelly and it's always
going to be this rooting interest where it's like, all right, like, are you hoping that you guys
couple up at some point? It's this big grand thing. Or are you just kind of like falling back to her
for protection? It's almost like a safety barrier where he could be out on an island by himself
where he's vulnerable, but he's still as Shelly. And there's always that maybe a little Trump card
in the back pocket. Like, Shelly's got me. Well, I also think that that's where his technique,
if you want to call it that.
It sets him up to not have to dive that far into things until he wants to because his
whole thing is like, I don't like to get intimate too early.
I don't like to jump into anything too fast.
I take my time.
I'm a slow burn.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But if you listen to his conversations, they're pretty similar with any girl he's interested
in.
For sure.
I think what we're going to see is, and this is what I think about Ace with Shelley,
once he picks Shelley, I don't think he's going to deviate.
I think the reason why he didn't pick her when he had Amaya out there is because he still wants to explore and he's worried that if he picks Shelley, he's just going to sit with Shelly.
Okay.
And I think he's, he says it to Hoda.
He says it to Jeremiah.
It's too early for you guys to be doing this shit.
He could easily be doing that if he was with Shelly from day one.
And he's looking at it like there's 30 more days.
He's the anti-Germaya.
Do you think that if Jeremiah and Huda hadn't gone that fast, that hard that fast, that Ace would be playing differently?
because he takes that shit really personally
like he is interested in that
I think he would still be
like spouting out his nonsense
about like playing the game constantly
but I don't think that he would really have a target
like I don't think that it just because
you know Jeremiah and Huda aren't doing that anymore
it's not like he would look at like Nick and Sierra
or look at you know I'm more mean
do you think that he is so hesitant
to really dive into something
because he doesn't want to be seen as Jeremiah and Huda
So he's like, I'm going to take all of the time.
Maybe partially.
Looking like this.
Yeah, partially.
I think more so it's probably his mentality when he came to the house.
Okay.
I'm just going to go after whatever.
That's why I think that he's so afraid to go with Shelley.
Okay.
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Let's talk the spicy
kiss and tell challenge because the guys get handcuffed or whatever on everyone's in latex
and shit and they're on the big exes and you get they get smooched by the girls or they do
whatever they want that blah blah blah not important the important part is we get three bombshells
enter the villa the important part is Austin was fucking hilarious during the challenge I didn't
think he was that funny I thought he was way too horny I was like dude's the funny but the shit he
was saying he was dead serious he's like hit i've been a bad boy like please hit me somebody please
hit me the best is all the edits that have been popping up where hood is like dancing on jeremiah
making out with him and then the one opportunity where hood it goes down a little bit jeremiah looks
across it's just ace with a huge shitting grin on his face and in his confessionally he's like yeah
i like to watch yeah that's my point he's so funny he's so horny he's very horny but it's hilarious
i didn't think it was that funny after a certain i was there in person i wouldn't find it funny
Watching it on TV, I thought it was hilarious.
It just felt too desperate for me.
He really wanted somebody to hit him.
Like, he was, like, actually hoping they would take the whip and go across his chest.
That's what I was actually kind of surprised about, that Amaya didn't take the opportunity to tee off on Ace.
That's what I thought, too.
She went into it, and she said this a little bit later.
I didn't want to give him the satisfaction of, like, I just wanted to tease him a lot.
It's like, well, here's the other thing.
You could have just walked over and just dropped the whip and turned around and walked away.
I actually appreciate that because I think.
it just leaves a door open for him to shit talk it's like oh then she took it out of me because
instead of just doing what she did she was very kind of a ho-hum about it yeah and then walked away
i actually appreciate that yeah i think more than the other but like i said three bombshells enter
we get jalen pepe and then iris comes in after jalen and pepe jalen and pepe do what i guess
everyone does when you enter the show just make out with everybody yeah right so they're all smooching
And then Iris does her thing.
By the way, we need to talk reactions of the girls versus the guys whilst the smooching was taking place.
Yeah.
Before that, the dudes aren't hot enough on the show.
That's what I thought.
Dudes are not hot enough.
Okay.
At least I'm not crazy.
Yeah, you're not alone.
These dudes are not hot.
When they walk in and I think it was Hannah that said it looks like two angels just came down from above, I'm like, fuck you look at it.
Really?
I will say this, though.
Pepe looks good.
He's got to get his hair fix.
I agree with that, but the other thing with Pepe, his tattoos are brutal.
Both of there are actually, no, wait, hold on.
Jalen has an OVO tattoo around his belly button.
What is that?
Like Drake's OVO music.
Goodness.
I might be wrong about that.
It could be something else, but.
I don't know what that is, but I did notice the Joker tattoo on Pepe's arm.
Brutal.
Tattoos this season are so bad.
They're tough.
They're really tough.
Like I said, the one, the Cupid tattoo on Austin's chest is,
Cupid holding a machine gun.
And then he's got a girl drinking a slurpy on like his oblique.
What the fuck are we doing?
That would actually make some sense because he does strike me as somebody who frequents like a 7-Eleven down in Florida.
Okay.
So, you know.
What's wrong with that?
Do what you will with that information.
I frequented lots of 7-Elevens.
No, I meant like loiterers.
Yeah.
You were loitering 7-Elevens?
I would hang out in the parking lot.
Picking cigarettes out of the trash can?
No, but you can, uh, you can get very, very cheap beers there.
The big guys.
Having people buy you beers?
No.
You were just standing out there like Hank Hill?
No, as an alcoholic, I'd buy the beer and drink it in the parking lot.
Come on, keep up.
We'll be right back.
I need to take a look at Steele's tattoos a little closer.
Yeah.
I'll see when there's any slurpees in there.
Hey, now.
But I will say this about Pepe.
That man might have the best game on the show.
Very smooth.
He's very, very smooth.
He's too confident.
I don't know.
A kitchen move?
Oh, bro.
The kitchen move was atrocious.
The kitchen move was strong, and he came in too hot there.
I agree.
I'm talking the one-on-one-one time.
The one-on-one time, yeah, he seems very good with the one-on-one time.
And he's not too aggressive.
Let's take a look at the Pepe's basketball history, if you'll indulge me.
Okay.
Because I know it.
I did a lot of research on it.
All right, well, here's what I think.
I think that maybe he had a decent college career.
I don't know if he made it to the NBA or if he got drafted.
I figured he played overseas.
He played, I believe it was in Lithuania.
I may probably about that part.
He played in one of the European leagues.
He went to Cal State Fullersham.
Okay, I knew that.
Two seasons.
All right.
Didn't record a stat in his sophomore year at all.
Okay.
And then stopped playing there, went to Lithuania or whatever.
The only thing that you could find was there was no stats available.
There was nothing there.
But somebody did write an article where it was a career high, two points and four rebounds.
And he played for a year and a half.
So the whole, like, and look, I know.
know people lie on these shows all the time, but leading on the, you know, a retired pro basketball
player. Oh, also he doesn't own a gym in L.A. He just teaches that one I figured. I didn't think
he owned a gym. But I do believe that he's an after-school program. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as the
pro basketball thing goes, I don't have an issue with it. He did technically play pro ball, so it is
what it is. I'm just talking about his, when he spits game, I think he's decent out of it. I think that
he takes the cake so far as to like, all right, I can see.
Just need him to wear a hat.
Yeah.
I think if he wears a hat, because people were posting pictures that he was putting on Instagram, he looked hot.
That's what Dev said.
Yeah, she goes, once I saw him in a hat, I was like, oh, I get it.
Put a hat on.
Get that hair out of my face.
Yeah, but.
Or go to Turkey.
Like, just, you know, figure it up.
Oh, yeah.
If you think that if I go bald, I'm not going to go to Turkey and go hair transplant.
Yeah, we'll be right there with you.
Yeah, we can document it for you guys.
But yeah, that's just know that if I ever start to really go bald, I'm going to Turkey and get my hair transplanted.
but back to the spicy hot challenge
spicy hot kiss and tell challenge
whatever the fuck it was called
everyone does their thing
and then iris comes in and iris goes
the reactions are very different
from the girls in the house
they're not as ha ha about this whole thing
the dudes know made some jokes here and there
but for the most part they all took it in stride
nobody was like overly upset about the whole thing
to an extent I really don't blame them for being pissed off
because it seems like every time we get bombshells
there's always a girl oh yeah
get two girls, you get one girl, you get two guys and a girl. It's like, there's a good point. Why's there
always a girl in there? That's a good point. The girls have their fun. But what I was saying is like for
the most part, I thought everyone was cool about it. For the most part, except one. Mm-hmm.
Because, and of course, first of all, more cracks in the foundation. You're seeing, uh, Jeremiah start to
open up a little bit. He's getting a little more loosey-goosey because Iris walks in and he gives like
the tongue out, like shaking his head. And of course, Huda's watching Michael Hawks. She's like,
did he do that? Did you just do that? Did you just do that?
Uh-huh.
So I'm already worried about him.
And then Iris gets to Jeremiah and he goes, this is the first time that we've seen
him go all in with somebody that is not Huda.
While that's happening, Huda literally leans all the way.
She is in Iris's face and says, that's enough, bitch.
You just met this woman who is just playing the game.
Which, by the way, that is now the second time that she has done that.
She did that to Amier when she came into the baseball game.
Yep.
So, yeah, bad look.
Double standards.
She just got made out with by two dudes.
Jeremiah kept his mouth shut.
Yep.
But you know why?
Although it was really funny when she was making out with the dudes.
Of course, Ace's positioned right next to Jeremiah.
He's just cackling at him.
Dude, his reactions to the Jeremiah hood of debacle is one of my favorite things.
He got, like, I'm so happy that episode 12 happens the way that it did because it finally got to the point where he just says it out loud.
I know.
And I'm like,
I'm like, good.
This wasn't just like,
I dislike you guys,
you guys are annoying me.
This is like,
I've got a different issue.
I've got like a serious issue with this.
It's like,
all right,
cool.
I actually,
I like that.
I like that as well.
But yeah,
Huda's reaction sucks,
which is just a bummer,
honestly.
Like,
I don't need,
I don't know.
It's just not that fun to watch.
And like,
but it's also like,
Iris is going to be living with you guys
in the same house.
You guys are going to be getting ready
every single day together.
You're going to be sleeping in the same room.
Correct.
You're going to be around each other.
Why is that your first impression?
Because she's making out with the guy on a show that you're supposed to do that with.
Like,
it's so short-sighted because she'll immediately turn around and try to be your best friend right afterwards.
Yep.
So you just called me a bitch because I was making out with a dude that you're coupled up with.
Because I was playing the game.
Like, get over it.
Yeah, it's pretty nuts.
But the only other major revelation before we move on to, we've actually been pretty chronological,
which is impressive because that was more or less episode.
We were not.
We're getting better at them.
Yeah, we're getting better.
We're getting better.
And the other thing that happens is Hoda tells Nick about the baby.
Which was fucking hilarious.
It was like a human baby?
Like, this is the problem.
Hold on.
Who the fuck?
I'm a mommy.
Who says that?
Say I have a daughter.
I knew that's what you're going to be like.
Lady, say you have a daughter.
It's the most bizarre situation ever.
You're going to sit down with like a 24 year old and be like, you're 24 as well.
I'm a mommy.
I'm a mommy.
And she says like that soft voice.
like she's talking to a child, I'm a mommy.
And he's like, yeah, mamacita.
So he was not listening.
He was not listening at all.
He probably thought that this conversation was going to be so different.
This is the issue that me and Jeremiah are going through.
You're one of his best friends.
I figured I would just run it by you.
It's like, no, actually, I'm going to announce to you that I'm a mom.
I'm a mother.
He didn't see that shit coming.
I'm a mother.
I have a daughter.
She's four years old.
Nick was not paying attention.
And you can tell that because towards the answer to the conversation, he's like, when he finally, like, it sinks in.
and he was actually very supportive.
He was way more supportive than Jeremiah.
Nick's reaction should have been Jeremiah's reaction.
Maybe not the first like two sentences where he's asking for clarification.
But once he finally got there, he's like, how old is he or she?
I don't, she said she had a daughter.
He's a daughter.
But yeah, Nick was not paying attention at all.
But that is what you would want Jeremiah's reaction to be.
Oh my God.
I love kids.
That's awesome.
Oh, fucking over dinner too.
I know.
He was very.
I actually have a kid as well, you know?
I donated sperm.
It's like, what?
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that, yeah, which is nuts.
I was like, okay.
It was so funny.
It's like, I don't, maybe, you know, people can probably, you don't know what's going on
on the internet right now, but people can probably figure out who your kid is.
Well, no, the way that he made it sound is that he donated to a couple that he knows.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, you're saying that people out there can find out if you were too descript in this.
So now we can dox your kid.
People can probably docks this.
People are nuts online.
That child.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was, uh, I, I am glad that you caught that too, the mommy thing.
I was like, what the fuck?
The mommy thing was insane.
Just say, I'm a mother.
I have a daughter because it, his reactions, though, were worth it.
Because he literally goes, yeah, mamacita.
I was like, Jesus, Nick, this guy.
He's so good for this show, though.
But let's talk pancakes.
Let's talk pancakes.
Do you like a pancake overcooked or undercodes?
If I'm going to pick one or the other, I would say slightly under.
I would say, no.
protein? I just can't. I fucking can't, bro. This is like, and I know, and obviously, you know, as America
watching a very toxic couple, a lot of couples go like this. This is incredibly toxic, but usually
there's not cameras on your every move. Yeah, I'm not saying I haven't been in this situation.
But this is what's going on. And so when you see it and your immediate reaction is, fuck, Jeremiah,
you got to get out of there. Run. He's going to do something in like an hour that's just as bad. So,
it just kind of goes in a cycle.
And this is why we need them to just get away from each other and break up.
They have to stay away from each other because this is only going to only going to get worse.
And like what?
And it does get worse before it gets to episode 12.
I can't wait.
But like, neither of us are sitting here going, Jeremiah is the man.
No.
Right?
I don't think he's a solid dude.
But you said that he's hiding something.
I'm not sure what he's up to.
I haven't figured out yet.
I've kind of changed my mind on him trying to be in a couple to win.
I really do think that they're both just incredibly toxic.
Is that what it is?
I think that's all it is.
I don't think that there's an ulterior motive here.
Okay.
I don't know.
I do think that there's something about them.
And I said that in our first recap.
I was like, I just don't trust the guy.
I'm not really sure why.
So if you feel like we're ganging up on hood of this episode,
it's just because of episode 12.
And Jeremiah hasn't, by the way, too.
Exactly.
And, like, Jeremiah hasn't done a whole lot.
he did something that we'll talk about but not a ton to warrant and that's like the worst part
those little comments and everyone that's been in a toxic relationship you know like no matter
what you do there's always a comment and it's like condescending it's patronizing it's all the things
that you don't want to hear and it makes like the hair on your neck stand it's yeah she's also like
and i i haven't seen him do it yet so i can't say if he is or not she's also using sex to get over a lot
of things dude it's i was saving that for a little bit yeah yeah well i was going back
back to episode eight when they're in the middle
of a fight and she goes, do you want to
shower together later? It's like, no. What are you
doing? Even Jeremiah is like, no. Do you know
what that is? Absolutely not. That's called using
sex as a weapon. Yeah, and that's what she's doing.
Sex. Yeah. I know because any time
it gets tense, she
brings it back to something sexual
every single time.
So that's a problem. That's like...
When she's standing over him, she's like, how do you usually
hold me? Grab my ass. Yeah, hold me
the way you hold me before. Like,
dude, it's just too much. Sometimes
I do forget, and it is kind of funny.
Like, I had this realization last night
before she pissed me off again,
and I was like, all right, never mind.
She's 24.
She's like a child.
It's like, yeah,
like some of your emotions are fucking crazy.
So like that does check out.
And then she'll do something.
I'll forget all about it.
Yeah.
I immediately.
I hear what you're saying.
But at the same time, it's just like,
let's get back to the pancake thing.
Like, this man walks in with your breakfast.
Your first response is,
no protein, which is just rude.
And you say it with a smile,
so you're like trying to act like it's a joke,
but that's even worse.
And then when you go to eat the pancake
that he did bring you, it's ever so
slightly undercooked.
And then you complain about that and say,
I'm not eating this. And then
you go down to the kitchen
and you say, I'm going to
make him breakfast. And you
said it in a nice way. Like, okay,
you're going to flip the script. That's nice
of you. Whilst doing that,
Taylor steps in to make your pancake
Jeremiah's in the kitchen as well
you asked Taylor
to make your pancake
so he makes you a pancake
how the fuck are you going to use that
against Jeremiah
her saying like any man should step in
and make a pancake
you're going to let another man make a pancake for me
if you shooter were like over here
if we were recording early and you were making
pancakes for dev you know what I would do
ask for what? You would do can you make me one
too. Yeah. It is not an little extra protein in it. It is not emasculating for another man. Ew.
No. Dude.
That's true. I thought he was like, that's full. Oh. Gross. Gross. That's what I thought you were
say. No. Yeah, it was. No, I know you like a little protein powder in there. I do. Uh,
anyway, sorry guys. Powder. Yeah. Stop it. Uh, what was I saying? Oh, there's nothing amasculating
about that. No, at all. The only people that would feel emasculated by that are like toxic in-cell
red pill morons. It's like, no man makes breakfast for my girl. It's crazy, but it's crazier for her
to expect, because they sit down and talk about it. She expects him to understand where she's coming
from. It's like, it's not about the pancakes. It's like, what is it about? It's, what is it about? I have
no idea what it's about at this point. We've lost the plot. I've lost all the plot. We have lost the
plot and we are like three four episodes away from uh i feel bad saying this but from a fake
pregnancy like i would not be surprised if she's like i'm late oh god i hope that doesn't happen
you've been here for seven days you'll see a jeremiah shaped hole in the wall like a cartoon
like running out of the fucking place oh god and for everything to happen last night as it did on
father's day oh that was father's dad dude the one thing
I want to ask you
because her complaint to Jeremiah
as she says ever so lovingly
I want you to do more
do you think Jeremiah is doing enough
yeah
absolutely
okay cool me too yeah I think I think so
I think her example of watching
everybody else do things
she doesn't use a good example
like if we go through what's going on
haven't really seen Nick and Sierra do a whole lot
Ace is currently coupled up with Amaya
but he's doing a lot for Shelley who he's not
coupled up with. Austin is freaking
the fuck out and just trying to talk to anybody that'll
hear him. Hannah and Charlie are just
happy, just making out in bed. They're just doing
their thing at this point. And Taylor
and Alandria, there is a clear issue there.
So what are you talking about with...
Whoa, whoa, whoa. At this point
Taylor's not doing dick for Alandria.
He starts in this episode where he's like
I got to step up my game. Yeah, because Jalen
comes in. When they're talking at this point
none of the other couples are doing a whole
whole lot. They're not going above and beyond. That's the other thing. The things that we're seeing
that are above and beyond quote unquote is because they're trying to win somebody over or they're
trying to get over that hump. Like you guys self-proclaimed have surpassed that. Yep. So you should be
in a place where you're just comfortable being around each other. And like I agree, not with them,
but I agree that it's important in relationships to still do the little cute shit. But it's been
seven fucking days. And the shit you compared it to are other people.
struggling because they're afraid their partner either is into somebody else or they're trying to
get somebody else's partner you guys are talking about moving in together so why are you oh bro sharing your
location that was the the pillow talk the pillow talk is crazy it's so funny like it's the best
at what point do you roll over and go i need to get out of this bed that's what like and that's
where you've kind of realize that jeremiah is also incredibly toxic because a normal person even
if you had like yeah you got your little pettiness here and there if you hear that and don't
immediately say i need to get out of this he defends it you defend it you're clearly a little toxic
he's definitely toxic so i'm not i'm again not trying to put it all on hood it's just watching
all the shit she's doing it's like oh my god but we have tension elsewhere as well because
since iris came into the house obviously a lot of uh a lot of gentlemen are trying to
court her, Ace being pretty much single, him and I aren't really anything, he goes and has a
conversation with her and stunned that they really hit it off. Yeah. Again, the stuff he's saying to her
it's the same. I really think it's performative. I just simply think it is because nothing really
happens. It seems like a very conversation. It was very surface level, right? Which, you know, a lot of
people have said that, I think it was this episode that surface level came up a lot. It was incredibly
surface level. It didn't strike me as
a moment where Ace gets to sit there by himself
and be like, what just happened? But he did.
But he did. And I didn't really get it.
I just simply don't understand it.
I don't think we missed a lot because I feel like anything
important they're going to show us. I think
that they probably cut that a little bit for sure.
But it didn't seem like anything. It's not like
you guys really hit it off. You didn't ask her anything.
She said she's a fucking chess master.
That's not one person.
She was talking to Austin when she said that. And Austin's
like, Ace said that he's into that.
Cool. And they said that he's into that.
Ace. Yeah. Well, Ace said,
has said that he's into a lot of things. He also said that he read what was the book that's here
brought up. The Alchemist. He's like fucking love that book. One of my favorite books. Like,
you don't know shit about it. I don't think you read that book. No, absolutely not. But
yeah, Iris is doing the right thing. Like she came in and a lot of people are going to come into the
house and say, you know, I'm going to explore all the connections. I'm not really here to
obey other people's couples. I'm here to find out if I can find someone that I can link up with.
Cool. Great. Everybody says that. She actually does, though. She tries to talk to everybody. She
has a sit down with pretty much everybody.
And it seems like she's kind of just weighing her options at this point.
And the Ace thing didn't really stand out to me.
It was just weird behavior by Ace.
I don't know.
Maybe he sees, maybe it's just what Shelly's afraid of.
Yeah.
Because this is the moment where in this episode,
Shelly starts to get a little nervous about Ace because he's been like full throttle for her.
He told her like the episode prior,
I'm really going to show you.
Yeah.
I'm really going to show you like how I feel.
and like that I care, this, that the other.
As soon as somebody else comes in the house,
he put that same kind of attention on Iris.
And I don't know if it was episode 10 or 12
where he sits down with Shelly and says,
hey, just to let you know, like I'm pursuing somebody else.
Like me and Iris had a good conversation.
I think that was at the beginning of episode 12.
Okay.
Episode 12 was a mess, but.
It was in the best way.
But in my head, I'm having Shelly's reaction.
It's like, whoa, dickhead?
Like someone new comes in and immediately you're like, hey, exploring.
And it's,
tough too because he does it in like a sort of like a gas lady way yeah where he starts it off by
saying we are so open with each other i really appreciate how open we are yeah so he sets it up in
such a nice way that it's like you can't react in a negative way response he's like i'm not going to
sit here and be like cool yeah of course and i think that where we are currently is you've got two ends
of the spectrum ace is there specifically he's going to talk to every single girl that comes through
and he's going to see if there's anything there which you know you can appreciate because that's not the
played. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. And then on the other side,
you've got Jeremiah and Huda, who are so closed off and they're not even appealing to anybody
else at this point. You don't even want to get involved. Jeremiah's doors. Jeremiah is now starting
to open, of course, a little bit at this moment. You've got to be somewhere in the middle there,
I think, where like, yeah, if you really hit it off of somebody, just do that. And that's what
they should be doing with Shelley. That's why I feel like there's ulterior motives where he's just got
her there. Like, I can potentially couple up with her when I need to. Yeah. But I'm going to try
to play the game in the meantime.
And, you know, you can agree or disagree with how he's doing it.
She's not.
I think she's...
I'm not going to do that shit.
She's going to lose patience pretty quickly here.
And rightfully so, because she has options.
She's got Austin on the back burner, which, again, the chemistry between those two is
non-existent.
I'm sorry.
It's just goofy.
Yeah.
And he's so goofy that it's like, it's hard to take this.
Yeah.
Just, let's go do some meditation.
Grab your bow and shoot it.
Yeah.
I learned this from a shaman.
I think Shelley just appreciates Austin.
She probably likes hanging.
out with them and that's pretty much fun times you know which is fine but she's not looking for a
silly goofy fun time she's looking for love god damn it but let's get into because we've miraculously
once again chronologically we're at like episode 12 now we're doing a great job episode 10 was great
but it was kind of the buildup you're seeing the at the end of episode 10 is when they announced
that we america get to vote get to vote with who the bombshells couple up with which is
awesome incredible yeah that's how it should be that's yeah so next time and i'm promising to this
i'm going to get steel to download the love island app yeah and he's going to vote the next time i'm
going to keep them keep him updated i will yeah because i want to be involved maybe we'll do like a
you do you do until you know something happens that you don't expect and you're like ooh that's my
fault that's why so last night i felt really bad tonight i'm like oh really you felt bad last night i
felt really bad for the results, yeah.
Interesting.
Well, let's work our way to those results.
Let's start with the wood chop challenge.
Yeah, why not?
Because that's a good place to start.
I don't really understand the game.
Like, I do, but like...
I don't think you really need to understand any of these games.
Like, baseball was ridiculous.
Yep.
It made no sense.
It worked, I suppose.
But this one's similar.
It's like you pick a branch off the tree.
It says, like, who's a shady question?
Who's the most uninterested person in somebody?
And then you shoot somebody with the wood chipper.
or I think it was called the Woody Chipper.
The Woody Chipper.
A penis joke.
And then you have to, I didn't understand the log thing.
You have to get across the log, but nobody did.
Apparently the log thing was a death trap.
Watching Ace Jump spread like that was...
Hurt me.
Right?
You didn't have a reaction or do you think he was playing it cool?
Playing it cool for sure.
You can't must like that.
There's no way.
Unscathed.
Even if you like lean back as a dude, like you're, that's tailbone.
Yeah.
There's nothing.
I just, yeah, that was.
nothing. There's nothing nice about that. But we do get Paige DeSorbo as a little cameo for the weirdest amount of time ever.
So she shows up in a full suede outfit in the middle of Fiji. Got to be hot.
I would imagine. Really hot. And it also apparently took them a very long time to film this.
The reason why Paige left. So Ian, the narrator just kind of chimes in. Page is left. So I'm just going to take over from here.
Yeah. This challenge took so long. And it got to the point where,
That fucking log was such a death trap that people were falling off and people kept getting hurt.
When they landed, it looked painful.
Hannah actually got really hurt.
So if you look later, she's got a big bandage on her arm.
Somebody said, and I don't know if this part's true, but apparently she had gotten her arm
like lodged in the log while it was spinning and that's what cut her.
So then they had to do like medical attention and all of that.
And it took a while to get them like kind of restarted and cleaned up because I'm assuming there was probably some blood.
They have to clean everything up.
At that point, Paige had to go.
So they started refilming, like, two or three hours afterwards.
All right, that makes more sense.
And they still had, like, three dudes to go.
So who somebody had picked Hannah that, like, jump on the log.
That's why they stopped showing the log.
They only showed, like, two or three of them.
Okay.
Because it was just a complete and utter disaster.
It looked like that.
I mean, it's a spinning log covered in water.
Yeah, and the fucking log was spinning fast.
Yeah, that was wild.
Like, you don't have to spin the log.
Just it can spin as it moves and you make it wet.
Look, there's no.
real stakes in the log anyway.
It's just a chance to make out with somebody.
So what's the fucking point?
Let's not put wipeout obstacles on...
Like, I don't know.
You could probably think of something better.
Like a foam pit that's full of like brown cubes.
And you can be like, this is where all the wood goes.
I don't think.
And you got to find the gold.
And they're not going to find the gold.
They're just going to make out.
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Oh, hi, buddy.
Who's the best?
You are.
I wish I could spend all day with you instead.
Uh, Dave, you're off mute.
Hey, happens to the best of us.
Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers.
Goldfish have short memories.
Be like goldfish.
The funniest thing to happen in this entire situation is...
Poor Allandria.
Poor Alandria.
Four times.
That stuff.
They must have not been shuffling any of them.
They're just like putting it back in the same spot.
I thought it was a bit.
I thought all of them said Alandria.
I hope it was a bit.
I don't think it was.
I'm saying because my theory was all of the bears said...
Alandria.
Sorry.
Bevers, yeah.
Said Alandria.
They didn't.
There was other people in that.
It didn't because Sierra did get picked at one point.
she was the only one who did the fake situation.
I think she was with Taylor, if I remember correctly.
Yep.
And they were just kind of like banging on the walls.
Everybody else leaned into it, including good old Jeremiah.
Thank God, though.
You know, like I was fine with that.
I'm fine with him finally playing the games.
I thought it was so lame when we would get into these moments.
And he's like, I can't.
Like, I can't.
I'm without it.
But you guys aren't closed off yet.
So that pissed me off.
So I'm glad.
And you can also tell, again, through his reaction.
his body language with hooda is wild it is wild he leans away from her he doesn't look her in the
eye anymore until when she gets sexual and he's locked back in yeah she says some shit and he's
like oh he giggles and like looks at her mm-hmm yeah that's a really good point but jeremiah
gets picked obviously and he goes through the whole thing he gets elandria as well alandria is confessional
hilarious she's like i just expect you know we're going to go in here there's a lot of people
shipping Nick in Alandria, which I can see.
They do have a lot of good chemistry.
That would be fun.
But when it comes to Jeremiah and Alandria,
she's not expecting anything.
She goes, oh, shit.
Right into it.
Oh, shit, very audibly.
And the best part is the door's broken.
It doesn't shut anymore.
We're done with this door.
Somebody banged on it too hard.
Huda can see right in.
And she acts like she didn't want to see it.
No, you can't.
Walked all the way over there.
All the way over there to go take a peek in there.
She's hiding in a bush looking at this.
It's not like it swung open.
and she had a direct line,
she walked all the way down
to watch that happen.
And then her response to that
is because, again, Jeremiah,
he calls Huda out
to do the thing with Jalen,
I believe it was a Pepe.
It was one of those guys.
I don't remember, yeah.
One of the two.
And her response is,
I'm going to show you
what you're not getting
and then rides them.
Yep.
Is this before or after
they boinked, by the way?
They point in between 10 and 12,
I thought. No?
I think they boinked. Yeah, because the night, yeah, so we already missed the boinking.
Let's talk about the boink. We lost the chronological order here.
Let's talk about the public boinking.
With the lights on.
Well, he says some weird shit. He's like, do whatever you want until they turn the lights off.
I was like, oh, wait until they turn the lights off.
Or go in soul ties. Go somewhere else to do these shenanigans.
But no. I don't think they're allowed to leave the bedroom as a couple.
Unless your ace, they're like.
like whatever yeah go on but that and if you look and think we got to think back because we're
logging all this info to use at a later date you think back all right he said something in like
the second or third episode he was like yeah you never let me sleep and he was being serious
and then she's like what and then he laughed it off but i could tell that's one of the things that
annoys him.
If you watch the night vision cameras every fucking night, there's nights that, you know,
you see a, you know, a couple of smooching, fooling around a little bit.
Then the following night, they're racked out.
They're sleepy.
Huda is on top of Jeremiah every single night.
And so this night, as it's, the lights are on.
And he goes, this is crazy.
I'm like, what's going on under those covers?
Yeah.
And Huda reveals what's going on.
They blinked.
To the whole group of girls that are also sleeping in the same room.
I have a confession.
It's really bad.
I don't want to tell you guys.
Then why'd you bring it out?
We had sex last night.
We bought.
With the lights on.
Yeah.
What?
Gross.
I was right next to you.
Also, I'm sure everybody in that room is rolling their eyes because you've probably
already had sex before this.
Multiple people did roll their eyes.
Yeah.
Like if you watch, that's my favorite part about the camera panning around the room.
Yeah.
You just get people's reactions.
Sierra rolls her eyes at it.
Like, multiple people roll her, Landre rolls her eyes at it.
And there's so many.
little things like that.
And that's what just shows you
what a toxic couple this is
because when Jeremiah comes in
and brings her breakfast that morning
in episode 12, I believe.
She's like, love you, bye.
Oh, God, not love you.
It's like, you didn't do that by accident.
Nope.
That wasn't like an oops, Freudian slip.
You wanted to say that.
And you wanted to say that in front of everybody.
It's so frustrating.
But they, God,
they're going to get their apocalypse soon.
They sure are.
But I don't want to get there
until we cover it.
Hannah and Charlie.
Let's talk Hannah and Charlie.
Sets the mood.
Because Pepe has kind of moved in on Hannah a little bit.
And Hannah's open to it.
Oh, yeah.
He's a handsome fellow when he's got a hat on.
He's a good smoocher, smooth talker.
So she's excited about this proposition.
And so she's starting to hang out with him a little bit.
They go into Charlie and Hannah's spot, which is fucked, the speakeasy, their first smooch.
Yep.
Now, Charlie...
This shows you, I do think he was actually interested.
Because his response was petty and stupid, but he was really hurt.
He was really hurt.
I actually didn't think that it was that big of a deal that he started talking to Iris.
I didn't either at all.
He was just goofing her.
Everybody's talking.
They're all sitting up in bed.
They're all talking.
Nick and O'Landria talk every night.
That's why people think that they should ship.
Watching that, I'm like, that's not that big of a deal.
I didn't have an issue with it.
She goes to bed saying that's so fucking petty.
It's like, you made out with this guy.
So she thinks that she's exonerated because she sat down with Charlie and said, look, I want to just clear the air.
I want to be honest.
We did kiss.
Okay.
Cool.
So he's allowed to go explore connections.
You're allowed to go explore connections, but he's not.
That's what I'm getting.
The petty stupid part was the Amaya conversation.
That was dumb.
He regretted that immediately.
But no, with the iris convo, I was like, you can't get mad at him.
Nope.
You were just straddling Pepe in the speakeasy.
Uh-huh.
So this is fair game.
Yep.
And yeah, he is only.
doing it because he feels upset the timing of course yeah absolutely but then i fell in love with
these two when they talked about it uh-huh because they were in soul ties chatting it up and you know
she's a little upset and he's kind of like whoa whoa what's going on like you did this and then they
both just start laughing they both started laughing you could see like they came to a good
situation where they both said fuck yesterday let's just leave it there we're going to leave it there
we're going to move on we both did dumb shit he even took account
accountability for talking to Iris, which we just agreed, wasn't that big of the deal.
But she, making out with Pepe, that gets exonerated. We're good. We're all right. I'm so happy
that we're clean. You can see the relief on Charlie's face. He's happy. Hannah's happy that she
came clean because she told the truth and she feels like she's in a good place. It was all set.
It was all set. Such a good place until after the logs. And then they're smooching with Pepe again.
And then we're smooching with Pepe once again. Correct. And that sends Charlie into a little bit
of a tizzy, so his response
is to go talk up
Amaya. Bad move. Awful
move. Should have went to Iris. He would
still be on the show if he hadn't gone
to talk to Amaya. Yeah. Well,
this is where, yeah, sort of. We'll get to that.
Yeah, that one doesn't really make a lot.
You save it, save it. But sitting
down with Amaya, you could tell
he's talking, he's barely
even looking at her. He's so nervous.
He feels like he's losing
Hanna. That's all it is. Hanna's gone, and
he doesn't know what to do. He's afraid
that he's just going to get the boot, he's going to go home, he's frantically looking around,
he finds Amaya, sits down with her because he knows that her and Ace aren't going to work.
And Amaya is really good friends with Hannah.
Best friends, you could say, because they've known each other for two days.
Mad respect to Amaya.
Amaya got so much respect here because she knew exactly what it was.
She clocked it.
Charlie felt it as soon as she clocked.
He's like, fuck.
She started crying.
Such a bet.
She cries at the drop of a dime.
This was such a bad call.
It was such a bad move.
but in the grand scheme of things,
it actually seemed to be okay.
Yeah,
and because of the way
that it was handled by Amaya.
100%.
Amaya,
this is the first thing that she's done
where I'm like,
all right,
maybe the,
you know,
psychological warfare going on
between you and Ace
is finally getting to a point
where you can move on
and we'll actually get to see where you are
and see who you are
because otherwise,
all we know is
Ace is playing like mind games with you,
and it's probably fucking you up.
And I feel bad about that.
But seeing this,
I'm like, all right, maybe my is kind of cool.
Between this and her reactions at the end of the episode,
she's one of my favorites now.
Yeah.
Because that shit made me laugh so hard.
But you're right.
Like, she even clocked why he was doing it.
And then he's like, I'll take the L on this one.
She was cool.
She's like, don't do that.
They don't do that.
Yeah.
Now, she clearly held onto something from that conversation.
Yeah, all right, yeah.
But let's keep trucking.
So now we know everybody stands.
But after this moment, Hannah and Charlie sit down.
Hannah and Amaya sit down first.
Well, yeah.
And then I thought, I'm like, wow, Charlie's really fucked it.
But Hannah took it so well.
Because she was like, this is on me.
I'm the problem causing him to do these things, which is also credit to Amaya for explaining
it the way she is.
Yeah, she explained it such a good way.
This is a girl's girl.
This is like through and through.
I'm your friend.
I'm telling you what's going on.
By the way, I clocked it immediately.
He's only doing it because you and Pepe are getting along because you and Pepe are
kissing.
And he feels really vulnerable.
and he doesn't want to lose you.
There was nothing romantic here.
It got shut down immediately, and he felt terrible.
Hannah has an epiphany.
Pepe is every guy that I've ever dated.
It's so surface level, surface level.
Once again, it's sexual only.
I'm lusting after him.
But me and Charlie, we connect on a deeper level.
That was such a weird little sequence of events.
I'm like, whoa, all right.
She goes to talk to Charlie.
Charlie's still distraught.
He's all over the place.
He's like, yeah, all right, we can go over here.
And she's like, look, let me go first.
I'll just, I'll be quick about this.
You're not to make it quick.
You don't have to make it quick.
It's okay.
Whatever.
Like, he's still like, this is going to be bad.
Yeah, I'm about to get torn apart.
She's going to tell me that she has more of a connection with Pepe.
Nope.
She's disgusted because I hit on her friend.
Yeah, she had an epiphany.
She had an epiphany.
But here's the most important thing, listeners, when that conversation with Hannah and Amaya happened.
What happened within that conversation?
Okay.
that is so
fucking important
to take with you
to the end of this episode
because again
they worked through that moment together
Hannah proclaimed
how she felt about Charlie
and then ran to Charlie
to Saul Maia sat there
with a big smile on her face
like good
I'm happy I could help
okay so we all are on the same page
with that
all right cool
because now we're going to get
to America's recoupling
which
just chef's kiss
what a great idea
unbelievable it's the first time
they've done this
No, I did know that.
And it was so goddamn good.
It hits so hard.
God, them finding out that the bombshells are going to get paired up because America's voting, and you guys have no say in the matter, they were freaking out.
Jaws dropped.
Freaking out.
Amaya started crying immediately.
So let's start with the recoupling.
Obviously, the newbies are up there.
We've got Jalen first.
Jalen, Pepe, and then Iris is last.
So two dudes.
are about to lose their...
What do you call them? Girlfriends?
Yeah, we'll call them girlfriend.
Okay, sure.
Two dudes are about to lose their ladies.
Up first is Jalen, right?
Mm-hmm.
So Jalen's up there, and I fucking knew it.
And look, I will hold on to Tylandria
until the day I die.
Yeah, of course.
Because I love them together.
I do think that there's something there,
and I knew that this was going to happen,
and I was upset when it happened,
but America decided that Jalen and Elandria need to be together.
That's who I voted for.
You fucker.
You're part of this?
So, I hate you.
Well, yeah, because Taylor didn't make an effort.
We're broken up now.
Taylor is not really that interested in Elandrie.
He's interested in staying in the bill.
That's fine.
That's okay.
I knew we were going to disagree on this.
That was the vote that made the most sense.
I didn't know you.
Jalen had no connection with,
he didn't even try to connect with anybody else in the house.
There is no other option.
What are we going to do?
Just stick them with like Amaya because whatever.
There was a whatever recouple.
Like in this moment.
It's the next one.
This one was cut and dry.
I don't think if we had the numbers, which they haven't released them for whatever reason, I don't
know why.
If we had the numbers of who was picked, that one would have probably been in the 90th percentile.
The last pick, I would have liked it.
The last pick is way higher.
But this one was cut and dry.
There was no other option.
Like, Sam Taylor, like, he was so bummed and he gets up to the front.
It truly is, like, a little too late.
I understand.
Man, but I also disagree because of the conversations that they have.
When O'Landrie's like, I really appreciate that you got to know me, like, the mental side first.
Because what?
Because they're friends.
Because Jayland's a little too physical too quickly.
Yeah.
That's what she said.
He's physical in the weirdest way possible.
He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like gently physical.
He's very gently and very like.
Respectful.
Yeah.
So like he seems.
Can I kiss you on the cheek?
It's a shame too because like, we even said that when the bombshells came in.
I'm like, pick hotter guys.
He was getting roasted him in Pepe.
both were getting roasted online and then somebody like picked up some pictures of him and he just
seems like a sweet guy's a sweet guy and his interactions with landria like i don't think it's very
romantic i don't think there's a whole lot there you know we'll see tonight but at the end of
the day it's like yeah i don't know uh landry is gonna find somebody perfect for her i hope taylor
she already found him it's not taylor she's going to find somebody perfect and jalen's not it
it's he's a placeholder for now no but i i will say he's a very sweet man he's a very sweet man i do
really like Jalen a lot.
This is when doubt starts creeping in my mind.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
What do we do?
Because we just went through the gauntlet with Hannah and Charlie.
And we finally got to a place and it was one of the nicest moments I've seen on reality TV.
It seems so genuine.
It was such a nice come together.
And I'm like, oh, God.
Oh, no.
My stomach was in my like, this was a throwaway vote for me.
I threw it to Amaya.
I was like, you know what Amaya wants out of the relationship?
I don't really care about Pepe.
That's what I was hoping for.
I was like, I don't really want that.
But the way that this evolved, when you vote, you vote on Friday night.
We didn't see the whole beginning part of Sunday night's episode.
That's a good point.
All you saw was Hannah and Charlie, yeah, we haven't seen a whole lot of that.
That's fucking mean.
We haven't seen anything from Hannah and Charlie.
We just see that, yeah, I guess they're happy over there, but like, show us a little bit more.
We don't really have any context.
Oh, shit, she's making out with Pepe.
I guess they're not that close.
I understand why America voted for Pepe to be with Hannah at that point.
Yeah.
But if we had the vote before that.
or we got to vote live right then and there,
that's a different situation.
They should do it live.
They should, but they didn't.
And actually, I appreciate it now.
Last night, I was like, oh, God, I do too.
Right now, I'm like, this is one of the best moments in TV.
I agree, because here's what needs to happen in this house.
And I recognize that, even being a new Love Island watcher, we need more chaos.
Yes.
Right?
We needed to start to crash out a little bit more than we have previously seen.
And that's what's something like this is going to do.
So I'm, I had the same.
Same reaction.
I had time to sit on it and think about it for a little bit.
As soon as Jayla and the Landry went on, I'm like, oh, no.
Yeah.
I knew it was going to happen.
I know.
And look, Charlie gets up.
It's really sad.
We're all bummed out.
I actually really love that they don't get up right away.
They just have to scoot over a couple of years.
I know.
And then fucking Jalen put his arm around the Landis.
Yeah.
Oh, that's like, oh, that's tough.
Oh, man.
This one was brutal because I think even Pepe was like, oh.
I think so too, because he seems like a nice guy as well.
And then he was really.
really like, ugh.
And he's like, this sucks.
This is the worst situation ever, but, yeah, that is such a little funny detail.
I know, dude.
You can't get up until Ariana tells you to get up.
It was so tough to see.
And so Charlie gets up and, like, you can tell he's distrax.
He keeps winking at all the guys, like trying to like, it's cool, Mike, he's cool.
Yeah.
Like, he winked.
He's like, we're still going to be fine because, to be fair, like the next recoupling is
girls' choice.
Yeah.
And at this point, I just, I just have to grin and bear it for a little while.
She'll be able to pick me.
Yeah.
And we all thought that was going to happen because we didn't know that someone's getting whacked.
There's something happening before that, which is what America wanted the most.
And this is the most important one.
And hats off to you guys for all coming together and doing this because we get to Iris.
Now, obviously, the frontrunner for most people would think, Ace.
Yeah.
But you got a bunch of petty people with cell phones involved.
And we don't give a shit.
about that. A lot of people who hate Jeremiah and Huda and just want to see the crash out.
I think that's 99.9% of people, which is why this went the way it did, because Iris, drum roll,
please, and Jeremiah, I laughed so hard when this happened. Reactions from the castmates
were so good. Ace is cracking up laughing. Multiple people are laughing, which is really funny. Other
people are just like jaw on the floor, don't know what to say. Landry's was more like a, oh,
fuck like you guys are so messy
yeah and it's like it's a bit of a nervous laugh
but like Charlie and
um oh shit
Charlie and Taylor looked at each other and just
started dying laughing like can't not
can't not like it was just
it was so rattling
what the fuck? Yeah what the fuck
us why she pretty much said fuck you
to everybody that's watching the show
which is really funny and then she gets up
and every moment
that goes by it looks like
her soul has left her body
because it's only getting worse
that's the whole thing because
after all of that goes down
and we got three people standing up there
and I knew something was up
because Ariana kept saying
you're single and vulnerable
like something's gonna happen and sure enough
someone's getting voted off the island tonight
but
holy shit they make
them stand up and
point at who they want to go
and say why I was like that's
so fucking mean.
Yep.
This is not new.
This they've done before.
That's ruthless.
So this one is everybody who was not recoupled gets to vote.
Yeah.
And you have to stand up and give a speech and tell us who you're voting and why.
And I forget who the first one was.
First one up was Shelley, I believe.
Was it Shelly?
I think they went like kind of around this way.
Shelly voted for Charlie.
Shelly voted for Charlie.
Shelly and Elandria both voted for Charlie.
So that one tells me a little bit different because in my mind, I'm thinking
one primarily
you cannot vote
out right now
just for the show's sake
for the show's sake
we have to have her there
we need to fall out
while Jeremiah is sleeping
in bed with Iris
we need to have her there
to try to convince Jeremiah
that they need to go sleep
out in the daybed
we're aces
that's what she's gonna do
she's a thousand percent
going to tell him
we're still in a couple
I don't give a shit
what America says
we're still together
you'll come sleep with me out here
that's what's going to happen
She's going to try to pull every trick in the book to make that happen.
If she got voted out last night, I would have been beside myself.
Yeah, you need it.
It would have been so short-sighted, and there's so many people online.
Like, you posted something earlier talking about stuff.
A lot of people commenting and a lot of people on all the TikToks and Twitter are talking about how they needed hood out.
No.
That people wasted their votes.
I didn't say that.
No, you did.
I know you didn't.
Other people in the comments were talking about how they wanted hood out.
No, that's so short-sighted.
Yes.
It is so short-sighted.
This is a mini crash out.
we can get a much bigger crash out
and I know how terrible that sounds
but by God is it so
fucking entertaining but if we're talking to you and you
voted you voted the same thing we did
so you're terrible too
we'll all be terrible together all be terrible
together we wanted to see this
in my mind I did want
I think the logical choice would have been Taylor
just because he hasn't really made a connection with her
he just started a couple days ago
they've been together since day one it's pretty
clear I thought the clear choice
was Charlie only because
up until this episode, we didn't really see that connection with those two.
Charlie fucking begging them.
When he starts talking, when they're all crying because they have to vote somebody out,
and Amaya is just like, yelling, and Ace has given her a side eye, which was a great gift.
Charlie jumps up there, and I'm like, is he going to do a little speech about like, look,
whoever you guys vote, it's cool, we still love you.
You guys are in a bad spot.
He's like, please, please, Hadda and I just got doing it.
I was like, this is so brutal.
I made a connection with her.
Something happened.
It's never had.
happened to me before.
Maya thinks that these people are going to die right in front of like, we don't want to.
I was like, if I'm the last one, do I have to shoot them myself?
Like, I can't do it.
When Arias tried to explain the rules and she's like, we don't want to.
She is so fucking.
She's amazing. She, what a 180, by the way.
Yeah, she is so goddamn funny.
But obviously, we're going left or right.
We already know Elandria and Shelley, which that's what I started to talk about.
And then we kind of got side-reiled.
When it comes to what I was thinking, which is Taylor didn't really make a connection,
And Elandria and Shelly are both saying, or I'm sorry,
Elandrie didn't get to vote.
My bad.
Shelly and Sierra voted for Charlie.
For Charlie.
They are more privy to this information than others.
So if you're listening to Charlie and you know that like that all just went down and they're in a good spot,
maybe there is more to Taylor and Alandria that we're not really seeing.
Because they are talking.
Maybe Alandria is interested or maybe she is.
I think she is.
I think she wants him to be more interested.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's ever.
happen but that was one thing that like now that i'm sitting on a day later i'm starting to think
like oh maybe maybe we missed a couple of things here or there yeah i agree with that that's a good
way to think about it but nick gets up and very gently explains why he's voting for hoota because
she came into this whole thing closed off she's not exploring that's the whole name of the game so i have
to vote for hoota if i'm jeremiah and your best friend on this show just found out that she's a
mommy correct is voting her
and he's an uncle like what does
that tell you nick is an uncle
and he just kicked her out that should tell you
everything you need to know yeah like you shouldn't
even second guess going back with hoda
because your boy just was like yeah she needs
to leave yeah we'll find
that out tonight now ace
ace goes in waiting for this and it was kind of
I'm assuming what most of us
wanted to say to hood yeah because he just
doesn't pull any punches very well said
you know I think that she's full of shit
I don't think that this is the way you do this.
She just came in and it's the safe route.
So she just walled herself off from everybody.
He calls it bullshit in front of her and says,
Huda, literally, if you look at her,
her soul has left her body at this point.
When he said bullshit, it was like, damn.
There's the nail.
There's the nail in the coffin where it's like,
fuck.
Even if you're not going home, that sucks.
Well, what just happened and why to anyone out there
that thought Huda should go home?
Why she doesn't, why she needs to stay is because it's
not just Jeremiah, Iris, and Huda now. Now it's Nick. Now it's Ace. Now it's anybody else that
made a face. You know she was scanning that room for reactions. Everyone that laughed after that happened.
All of those things are going to be in play now. And we have to have her reaction to those. We would
be distraught. And this season would flop without it. It definitely would. And look, we need like
another week or two. At some point, if she goes home, we might get like to a point where we've just
exhausted all resources.
Perhaps.
And there's just not enough
for us to go off anymore.
But when the votes really break down
and we'll get to Amaya in a second,
Austin,
they didn't confer, like,
Confer fucking Austin.
They didn't confer beforehand
to figure anything out.
Austin's just like...
Austin shit his pants.
He's the longest speech ever.
I still, again,
I still think that like his votes...
His speech doesn't track.
His speech didn't make any sense.
And he was just going on and on and on.
And then he even did like the pause
for dramatic effect at the end,
It was very funny.
But, like, his reasoning, I have no idea what he was saying.
When he gets to Taylor, I'm like, that kind of makes sense.
All right.
Yeah, he's made a connection.
That's okay based on what we've just seen from Charlie.
Like, I'm still vulnerable watching Charlie and Hannah get after it.
And I'm like, you know what?
If Taylor goes home, that kind of makes sense.
I'm all right with that.
I would be sad.
Then when the guys switch, I didn't expect Nick to stand up and vote for Huda,
and I'm like, oh, God, what's going on?
Are they going to send her home right now?
No way.
We get to Amaya.
after all we just saw with Hannah and Charlie
and Amaya's role in that whole situation
she brought them together
she got them back together
she put them over the speed bump
and got them back into each other's arms
in a better way than they were a day or two ago
in a point where holy shit
are Charlie and Hannah just adorable
are they the number one couple are they going to stay forever
because they seem to actually really like each other
love them together this could be perfect
she does a full fucking left turn
and votes for fucking Charlie
I was baffled
when we had that conversation
with Charlie and Amaya
and she approached it the way that she did
where she sat there and said look
I know why you're doing this
I'm going to have a conversation with Hannah about all this
it seemed in that moment
that she understood Charlie and they were friends
they were close enough
where even if he was vulnerable for some reason
in my mind, I'm like, Amaya could save him just because she likes him
and she wants to root for him and Hannah.
No, absolutely.
I don't know what the hell happened.
That was so...
I don't even want to call it a panic pick.
Well, like, originally, I forgot about the timeline because I was so rattled by the
hood of thing.
I was like, oh my God.
So I forgot about the in-depth conversation to bring them back together.
When she, when I sat down to think about it took me a long time to process this episode.
Yeah.
Because so much happened.
But when I had time to really sit and debrief, I was like,
holy shit you just ruined your friendship with hannah you actively brought these two closer together
and then you voted him out like that makes absolutely no sense to me and i don't even know maybe she
was so rattled by the whole thing that she forgot about that and just thought about the fact that he
hit on her like maybe that was where her speech was about recent events right and that's my point
you left out the most recent events you bringing them together it made no sense and then you have to
see Hannah sobbing
like uncontrollably sobbing
Pepe is so uncomfortable
that man doesn't want to be part of this
anymore and Amaya
I don't know how you come back from that with your
friendship with Hannah. No idea. You see a picture
in like the scenes from next episode and she's
crying with a photo booth picture.
One thing that you might not know
you can leave with the person that just got
booted. So Hannah can leave
with Charlie. I would love that. I don't know
if she will because they do. I want them to get married.
They're picking up tonight right where they left off.
So we're going to have to see Hannah and Charlie crying again.
But Charlie going and walking forward and asking if he can go be with her,
Ariana was crying.
Ariana so you can do whatever you want.
Ariana commented on an Instagram,
like the Love Island Instagram or whatever.
They posted like a little bit of a video for it.
Ariana commented and she was like, as soon as I left, I was sobbing.
Well, you see when he's like, can I go over there?
She's like, do whatever you want.
Whatever.
Yeah.
Literally do it.
I got to get out of here.
Go propose to her.
Yeah.
Like, I want the, I never thought after watching them early on.
I was like, yeah, they're cute, whatever.
I love them.
Yeah.
I want them to be together forever.
That was, that was the collateral damage.
We got what we wanted.
America got what they wanted with Huda and Jeremiah.
What cost?
The witchcraft takes a toll.
Something happened.
Something had to be sacrificed.
And we didn't know what it was.
It's like the Thanos moment.
We didn't know what it was.
We didn't know what we were losing.
What did it cost you?
Everything.
Everything.
We lost everything.
We lost potentially a perfect couple.
Yeah, the one that really made sense.
It just took a little while to get us there.
Now, I do think that, like, she won't go with him because...
God, I hope she does.
If she's sobbing over the photo booth picture, he's probably already gone.
I would imagine.
But maybe she's just debriefing by herself before she makes the decision to leave.
I don't know.
And I also like Hans.
I don't want to be, like, off the show.
But it's just...
Yeah.
It's heavy, man.
Some heavy shit.
Yep.
Let's get to some questions.
Boy, do we have a lot.
This might be the most questions we've ever had on a show.
First one up here from Health Godder.
Thoughts on the Allandria and Nick Ship.
Lots of fans talking about it on Twitter.
I support it.
I see chemistry there.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Not for me.
No.
It's because I'm so stuck on the Taylor-O-Landria thing.
From newsboos.
Do you think Huda will break immediately or go straight for revenge?
Revenge.
I think revenge right away, honestly.
I think that the first night they're sleeping in bed together, you'll just see her, like, behind something with her eyes just, like, staring at them.
Yeah, I agree with that.
From Ken's young is no one else thinking that Jeremiah is a major game player.
He's here for the W.
I thought that originally now I just, I think he's toxic and probably a little too lost in the sauce.
I still think that he's looking for the W.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I think they all are.
But, you know, the real W is finding someone you love.
That's the real W.
Unless somebody rips it from you and votes you out.
Here from Jade Brianna, what are you seeing in Talandria?
He didn't apply pressure until Jalen arrived.
Because of their connection, because you can say it's a friendship, you can say it's whatever.
They are so comfortable with one another, more so than anyone else in the house.
So when I see that, intimacy can grow, especially in a situation like this.
So I don't think it's fair to count it out only because he started applying pressure too late.
Is that a problem?
Yes, because now Elander can question it.
So that's Taylor's fault.
I agree with that.
But you saying that these two aren't cute when they're, like, they talk shit to each other, they laugh about it.
They both understand each other really well.
They both understand the other people in the house really well.
They have great conversations about all of this.
That's the foundation of a good relationship.
So if they can find a way to be intimate with each other, bang, that's Tailandria.
Hashtag Tailandria forever.
All right.
From Jen R.
Taylor should have went home.
He doesn't have no connections and doesn't even like Alandria.
You guys are all going to be, look, when this all shakes out and Tay Landria is still together
at the end of this thing, you guys remember where I still.
She's with Jaylor.
You remember what side of history I was on when they couple back up.
Speaking of history, from M. Frank 91, after last night's episode, do you wish you voted differently?
No, because I was on the right side of history.
Yeah, I don't think that there's any other way to go.
I said that. Charlie made the most sense to me.
Oh, no, no, no, like America's vote.
Oh, you know, I voted correctly, so.
Well, I would never vote to Taylor, so.
I didn't vote for Taylor.
I voted for, yeah, whatever.
What's going on?
I don't know, bro.
Carry on.
Oh, we didn't vote for them to get kicked off.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
No, I think that vote was good except for.
Oh, this is a great point from Joanna Pickles.
They used to smoke on camera in early UK seasons and had a smoking area.
We need it back.
Oh, God, I love that.
I desperately need a smoking area.
Fucking butt hut debrief.
Are you kidding?
While you're at it,
put the smoking sections
back into those restaurants too.
No.
No?
No.
I hated leaving like a TGI Friday
smelling like cigarettes.
Yeah.
All right,
that's fair.
But on the show,
yes, bring that back.
Yeah.
A lot of people saying
that Amaya deserves an Emmy.
I truly think that she...
I don't think that was acting.
I don't think that was acting.
I think she was very distraught.
Yeah, she might still not be fully recovered from this.
Yeah.
A lot of people asking what happened to Paige.
We already covered that one.
Oh, this is an interesting little spin from Zoe Cudla-Polet.
Is Amaya being scapegoated?
Charlie tried to get with her.
Why would she want that for her BFF?
I actually fully agree with Amaya's original breakdown in the situation.
I think Charlie was spiraling and just like went for Amaya because she doesn't have anybody really an ace.
And I think that he instantly realized what he was doing.
I don't think that that was a genuine move by him at all.
I think he was subconsciously trying to ruffle feathers and then realized it immediately, like, oh, my God, what the fuck am I doing?
Yeah.
From O'Janojo, Jinojo, Huda and Jeremiah equals a disaster, but would the show be boring without them?
The show would still be great.
This is such a nice, like, added bonus for sure.
Had this gone differently than exactly how it went, I think we might, I don't know.
there would be issues there but because of how well this played out like it it took this season was
already like solid yeah this took it to a different stratosphere yeah like this is a different show now
uh jamie gibbs has two really good questions i'm gonna do both of them uh do you think the boys
were in cahoots to vote off hood in austin drop the ball possibly dude when he says oh i
fucked up i was like what the fuck was that dude and i really think this is what happened i think
that he stood up, gave his speech,
panicked, saw Taylor, went Taylor,
wait, fuck, and then sat down
and just had his head in his hands
the entire, I can't wait for Taylor and Austin to talk.
Like, dude, what the fuck?
Yeah, look, I'm happy that Austin did fuck it up
because Huda would have been gone
and that would have sucked.
That would have sucked.
And the other question that Jamie had was,
is Jeremiah relieved or scared?
I think scared.
I think he would have been relieved
and he could have carried on for a little bit,
but Huda wouldn't have been there
and eventually he would have moved on
probably by the end of this week.
to be honest.
With Huda there, this is worse.
I think he's terrified, but I also think if you look at his, again, Jeremiah has the
worst poker face on the planet.
Yeah.
While Nick and Ace were talking about Huda, he had to almost remind himself to look
like upset because there was times where he was like nodding his head and I was like,
what?
And then he would be like, oh, I'm like, shit, shit.
So, yeah, I think that he's terrified.
And I think rightfully so.
And I think that I were should be scared.
Mm-hmm.
This is going to get messy as shit.
It's going to get very messy.
And last one here, this just puts a little time frame on there, which we always appreciate, but this one's insane.
Hard for me to, oh, sorry, from Mad Walp, hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that this was filmed on Saturday night.
That's crazy.
That is insane.
We're sitting here talking about this on Monday.
It came out last night.
They did this on Saturday.
They're currently going through this.
Yeah.
So that's great.
Right now, in this very moment, Huda is hiding in a bureau.
watching Iris and Jeremiah sleep.
You heard it here first.
That's verified.
Yeah.
But what an episode.
Dude, just what a show.
What a fucking show.
This was, I love when this happens in shows.
Like, we don't get these moments very often.
You know, in every show that we watch.
Occasionally we will.
In our, what, three years of doing this?
Every so often, few and far between an episode just errone.
And you weren't expecting it and it just changes the entire season.
And that's what we had here.
This was exceptional.
I think we've got more of these in here too.
I think so too.
And I think that if that's the route this show wants to go,
it's like the slow burn with this turning into a great season because in the beginning,
you're like, wow, everyone's kind of coupled off.
Like they don't seem to be branching out too much.
It seems kind of slow.
And that would suck unless something like this happened.
And then you're like, holy shit, nobody's safe.
Fuck, yeah, let's get messy.
There's bombshells.
and then there's bombs.
Yeah, and this was up with a shell.
Yep.
But, yeah, I'm probably going to watch tonight live.
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Because I can't wait to figure out what happens.
Yeah.
But, whew, that's all I got.
You got anything else?
All good.
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