Bros & Shows - Hypocrisy, Thy Name is Kyle (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

What's up Bros? Welcome back to another RHOBH recap. In this episode, the ladies are headed down to Garcelle's beach house. Kyle and Dorit are still at odds and Kyle takes it upon herself to invite a select few to dinner with her. Sutton and Garcelle recognize its a play to try and get some allies before the beach trip. Kyle 'apologizes' for her behavior at Boz's but stands by what she said? Boz continues to question Kyle's character as Dorit fills her in more on the situation. Sutton is starting to show more signs of being over Kyle's schtick sayin she nor Garcelle will be Kyle's minions. Meanwhile, Kyle continues to While at the beach, Kyle and Dorit finally have a one on one, while there was still plenty that wasn't addressed, they appear to agree to try to move forward and rebuild trust. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I do like this season. It's in the middle for me right now. I think that's a fair assessment. Yeah. I'm not, like, excited to watch it every week. It's just kind of there. I'm not excited to watch it, but I enjoy it while I'm watching it. That's where I'm at with it.

I think that's kind of generally how we feel when we're watching Beverly Hills until it gets to episode like 24 and we're still not doing it. Then it's too much. Brows and Shows Brows and Shows I gotta have Roos and Shows Good evening

everybody, welcome back to another episode of Brows and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Mr. Gootz himself.

What's up, dude? Signor Goetz to you, buddy. El Guterino. I'm only doing that because Kyle was speaking Spanish at one point and I had to double check to make sure who it was.

Okay, fair enough, fair enough. I don't know why that's stuck with me, but that tends to happen during these shows. Yeah, and this is also our second episode of the day. As you know, things get a little off kilter. Sure. Sure. Yeah. I like that one. That's a new one. But yeah. But yeah. No. No, we were good.

Yeah. No, you ruined it now. Um, but yeah. I don't hate this season. I think that it's just, I think I figured it out. The last few seasons have been marred and held down by Kyle's inability to do anything else but what she's done for the past three years. And that is frustrating. That is really frustrating. And that can pull this entire show down. But I just, maybe it's just because it's Beverly Hills.

There's something about it. I know what it is and why I am where I am. Why? It's not anything that we've watched so far because I would agree thus far. It's actually been pretty entertaining. Yeah, it's not bad. Because we're finally getting some retribution for all of those painful seasons that Kyle put us through.

Yeah. She's finally having to face the music, which is great. But by the end of this episode, I know, and the mid-season trailer as well, which I'm sure everybody has watched at this point, this season's going to turn into going after sudden. Well, I kind of, here's the difference, though, that we might get from this season,

that I hope we get from this season. Yeah, I hope you're right. It appears that she's taking on the villain role. Like, if she, because in the past, we've seen her take some shit, and yeah, it was probably self-inflicted and deserved because she says stupid shit. Love her to death, but she puts her foot in her mouth.

It appears that it's all, almost, and they could have cut it that way, but in the mid-season trailer, it looks like she's the one bringing it on herself, like she's much more outspoken. Yeah. Again, could be production. We don't know.

We don't have faith in the ability of Sutton to do that and withstand it. Well, let's hope that maybe with Tilly being involved. I don't know. I don't think Tilly's going to come to her defense. No, but she has, like, just support there. No, we've seen Tilly already be like, I love her, but yeah, that's a perfect way to describe her. When someone described,

I forgot the word they used was, but I don't know. I think that's going to make or break the season because we've seen people team up against Sutton. It wasn't great. Yeah, like if we're done with the Kyle stuff. I'm elated. I'm elated if that's true. I'm fine with it.

And my worry is that it's just going to go back to business as usual for Kyle. We're like, yeah, she's still obviously going through a lot with Mauricio and the kids and the empty nest and whatever. But if we just kind of turn away from all of that. No, I want to see her make. conscious decisions and efforts to not do the same bullshit. I don't, I think she's going to go right back to her safe space, which is doing nothing. Oh, she will. Yeah.

Yeah, without a doubt. I'm saying what I hope happens. Yeah, I know. Hope. I think that is why. And it's, it's literally just this one episode. I'm like, I don't know if I like where this is going. It could be, look, time will tell. It's the mid-season trailer, which means we're looking at 18 episodes, potentially. But let's get into this one. We start out with Kyle. I'll say, it every time. I'll highlight it every time.

This was a built-in storyline. She could have done a lot with this because she's home alone. It's sad. Her daughter calls her. How's the car? Car's amazing. What are you up to? Oh, well, me and the sisters might go to lunch. Ooh, where are you going to lunch? Fuck. Mom wants to come to lunch.

Oh, mom to come to lunch. I don't have told her about lunch. My sisters are going to kill me. Yeah, mom's going to cramp our style. I love that her reaction. Her reaction to it is to go to a confessional and say, which is great, by the way. Yes. All of my daughters are now leaning on each other so that they can talk about things

that everybody else is talking about that me and her father are going through. But, like, I'm right here. You can invite me. It's like, oh, Kyle. It's so sad. Sad, but, like, you answered your own question. 100%. You need to talk away from you guys.

Yeah, but again, I'm watching it. I'm like, dude, this was built in. It's so easy. But then she FaceTime's And Erica's sentiment I agree with a little bit Where she's like, look, at this point There's too many people involved

Between you and Derreet And you guys need to hash this shit out by yourselves. I agree with that But Erica's quote unquote neutrality Does seem to be leaning more towards team Kyle And it does towards me Her neutrality is that she's tired of dealing with it Yeah, which is fair

She says it by the end of the episode She says six times I'm tired of this shit. We all are. We all are. We all are. I agree with you, Erica. Yeah, you're not wrong

but it's interesting to hear Kyle's take on this whole thing because she's still in the victim mentality. She's like, this is the worst I've ever felt in this group. It's like, you brought it on yourself, dude, so I don't know why. And she's going to hear what I have to say, and then I'm done with it. Why do you think you get to dictate this one? And I know that's your MO. You think that you're the HBIC. And for all intents and purposes, you have been for a very long time. I'll give you that prop, but why in this moment you're texting her husband and you

wrote an ambiguous text that you then shared with the group, which again is baffling, because you're the one that screenshotsed it. You could have picked any other text. You could have picked a meme. That would have made this whole thing much easier, but you read out loud and I really truly think this is what happened.

I think she screenshotted the text, thought it did a good job of explaining, didn't like proofread it and as she was reading it out loud got to that sentence and said it and it was probably like fuck and then just kept going she did it twice too because the second time was even worse well you have to at that point look I still think that maybe she was in her own head about it the first time when she's doing it at chucky cheese reading it to the rest of the girls it's such a funny sentence when she's reading it to the girls she's like she goes

right through it she doesn't really hesitate at the one line she doesn't see anything wrong with it that is the real problem here that's what she reiterates later I don't see anything wrong with any of this I've known him for seven years we talk about stuff it's okay we don't talk about your relationship. But you said it was just memes and jokes. Yeah, it's just memes and jokes. And then you immediately switch and say, here's a paragraph I sent to him.

That's not a meme. Or a joke. And then when she finally hears what everybody else is saying, it's still in her head she has to take the stance of, I'm going to stand by this because I can't take it back. So I'm just going to gaslight the other person

into thinking there's nothing wrong with this. You guys are making me feel like it did something wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. It's like, yeah, you did. You did. And it's a very easy thing. That's the, that's probably, why this one's so frustrating.

It's so easy to squash. Yeah. Hey, I overstepped. I'm sorry. Won't do it again. She apologizes for all the wrong things. Doreet wants to be your friend more than anything else in this world. It's the easiest way to do it.

You just have this. Just like you have the easiest built-in storyline. Yes. You also have the easiest route back to being a friend with Doree. Just take an iota of accountability. Yep. Even if you don't believe it. Yep.

Just do it. Shouldn't have sent that. It was too ambiguous. You know what I met. Cool. All right. I won't do it again. Yep.

Period. That's all Dereet. needs to hear, as we see later on the beach, that was a half-assed apology. And Doreet's like, hug, hug, touch me for the love of God. This is the longest I've ever had to sustain any sort of actual anger towards anybody. I think so just hug me. Let's move on from this. So that's been the frustrating part.

But you get Doreet with Bose. And thank God for Bose being in Doreet's life. Because, look, you might not be Doreet's biggest fan. There's a lot of people out there saying that Doreet's drumming up all this just for the show. you can say what you'd like, but you cannot deny that this woman has needed a real friend on this show for a very long time. Yeah, she has. Because everybody, it's like tongue in cheek when they talk to her. Everyone talks shit about her being long-winded, that what she's saying has no substance. And okay, fine, maybe they're right in a lot of ways. But not right now. She's going through a lot of

shit. And we see her counterpart in P.K., who's such a dick that, like, yeah, she's fucking struggling. And to see somebody like Bose, all Bose is doing, by the way, Listening. She's being nice. Providing a little bit of commentary. That's it. Just some support. She actually seems interested in what she's saying.

Yeah. Like paying attention to the conversation. Reacting. Mm-hmm. And that's a big one because later I'm going to talk about the lack of reaction. She's just reacting. Yep. And also, Dorit props to her when they sit down.

She's like, let's talk about you, Bose. I want to hear about you. I'm like, that's big from Derrete. That is huge from Durit. Yeah, that's a big move. And Bo's like, no, you know what? Let's talk about you because Bose recognizes I'm not in the shit. You are Derrete.

read let's hear it let's let's hear what you got going on and she's like boz is my ride or die she gives good advice it's finally it's so nice to finally have a friend with my best interest at heart and i'm like you've been the show for how long yeah and it's taking this long that's that's a bummer i feel bad for you and i think so it's one of those people too that like i don't see her having many of many friends outside of the show i think a big part of that is probably her relationship with kyle yeah on and off the show because so much of her time and energy has been put into keeping this friendship going because Kyle's not reciprocating. So it's been all on Doreet, and I'm sure that's made her other friendships muddy.

So here you go. You've got an actual friend, and Bose, she just pays attention. So they start talking about the Kyle situation. This is why I really like Bo. One of the many reasons I like Bose, she keeps her seats in the back of her mind. And she never let slip to Kyle or anybody else that she's, you know, curious about, maybe has some reservations about. She plays on the up and up with them,

but meanwhile, she's just taking notes, and she's like, it's interesting because something keeps being said. You said that she was one of the first people that you spoke to about your problems with P.K. Kyle claims that she didn't know about this until very recently. Yep.

The best way to debunk this, let's roll the tape. Let's roll the tape production. One year ago, to read talking about Paul Kemsley with Kyle. Very out in the open to the point. that Kyle responds with, yeah, I've had those moments in my marriage as well. And look, Kyle can take the approach of when Derreet came to me with that. I was already going through so much with Mo and all the other shit around my life.

I didn't realize what was going on. But we're not going to get any sort of reaction from Kyle. No, and also I wouldn't believe that. What would take is one confessional. Yeah, look, at this point with Kyle, I don't care if we believe it. We don't believe half the shit that she says. Just fake it. But if she fakes it and says it, then at least it's like, all right, you do remember.

things is it somewhat endearing her inability to just like bite the bullet move on uh i don't think it is i'm asking if you think it no i don't think i was more so thinking if it could ever get there because we've been doing it for so long no she's been doing it for so goddamn long that if that was the case it would have reared its head at this point yeah i don't think it ever happens yeah well bo speaks for all of us when she goes to her confession she's like kyle just continues to lie and like the depth of this stuff is getting crazy. She's like, if Kyle didn't want to look bad, she looks way worse now. It's like, yeah,

that's kind of what she does. She does it all the time. Let's rewind to last year with all the Morgan Wade stuff where she's claiming that she doesn't want to be in the spotlight. Everyone's questioning everything about her life. And then she comes out with a very raunchy. Graphic? Sure. Music

video with Morgan Wade, the person in question. You invite Morgan Wade to everything. You get a tattoo on your body by Morgan wait. So you call a lot of questions yourself, but then you're the victim, and that's what you're doing here. And Beau sees right through it. What I was not expecting was Doreet talking about the separation and how it came about. And I was pretty uncomfortable with the whole thing. Yeah, I was very uncomfortable during the scene, too. So here's what happened. She went over to talk

to P.K. And P.K. had a sponsor with him. And his sponsor spoke on P.K.'s behalf, telling Doreet that they need time apart. Yeah. So that's not what a sponsor does. Nope. From a recovery standpoint, here's the thing. Your sponsor can step in in moments that can put your sobriety at risk. That's kind of your support system.

You lean on them for stuff. They can communicate with people in your life. Sure. Now, as a recovering alcoholic, who's very involved with this stuff, this is inappropriate because this is a major life decision. Now, if you have your sponsor there to be a third party and somewhat of a mediator to make sure that P.K. is not getting triggered, to make sure that he's staying mellow. That's a different story.

Very different story. For P.K. to go there and use this as, I'll just flat out say it, an excuse to not have the conversation is what it feels like to me. He's a huge pussy. Yeah, because if you want to, again, I don't have a problem so much with the sponsor being there because I know how. Yeah, I agree with it on that extent. Like, it's just the fact that he voiced your words in the whole thing.

He broke up with Doreet. Yeah. The sponsor did. That's weird. That's bizarre to me. And that's not a great move. And every time something comes out more and more, I feel worse and worse for Doreet in this spot that she's in. She didn't even see it coming.

She doesn't even know if it was P.K.'s idea or the sponsor's idea. And that's also inappropriate because that should be flat out. Because here's the other part of this thing. That is probably a little gray for some people. It is what it is. the sponsor very well might have said hey this is a detriment to your sobriety your marriage in its current state is not helpful to you right you need to take a step back that actually is something that could definitely happen and would be appropriate for somebody going through that

okay now again that does not mean that deri should be left to ponder whose idea was this where is this coming from if the sponsor had pk's best interest at heart and everybody's best centers at heart, he'd say, hey, we discussed this since you're speaking for BK, I felt it was necessary for him to take a step back. You agreed with me? That's what we're doing. Instead, he goes, you're separated by. That's not what sponsors do.

Yeah, no. But whatever, I just feel bad for Doreep. Yeah, so do I. That's a weird, weird situation. Sure is. But we get Garcell and Sutton and their FaceTiming, and the best thing to come out from this season, I really like these scenes because they're calling Kyle out for all of her shit. Oh, yeah.

They're not sugar-coding anything. Kyle wants to have dinner tonight before everyone goes to the beach tomorrow because everyone's going to Garcell's beach house for a little getaway and both of them are skeptical. Like, why are we going to dinner tonight? Sutton goes to confessional.

We're going to dinner tonight because Kyle's trying to rally the troops. She's trying to make us feel sorry for her so that we support her and we get to the house with three. Correct. That's what I'm, but here's what frustrates me about Kyle,

one of many things. She thinks she's better than and smarter than the whole group. Yes. This isn't even a hard reach to figure out what you're trying to do. It's insulting to Garcell's intelligence. It's insulting to Sutton's intelligence. And you know what?

It's insulting to our intelligence that you think we can't see through this shit. Yeah, it really is. And it also just goes to show you there's probably zero examples of Kyle reaching out to just have a casual dinner with anybody. It's always, anytime she sends a text that seems to be important, it always comes on the heels of something about to happen. something about to happen or the reunion cameras there or whatever it might be. Like her life is the show and we get it. But now

she's in a position that she hasn't really been in and she's thinking how do I get around this? How do I just like start the communication because I don't want to go into this house with the last experience that these women had with me is me screaming and leaving. Right. Crying and leaving in some robe. Telling them they should

be ashamed of themselves. Yeah. Because now I'm going to have to face the music. Yeah. Let me get ahead of this. Let's all sit down and have some dinner, but not to eat. Not Doreet. No, not Doreet. No, not Boz either, because she's Team Doree. She's on to me. She's on to me.

Let me get the people I think I can sway before we get to the beach. Yeah. Yeah, stupid move. Now, by the way, Kyle allowed to go to Boz's to sit down and talk about whatever she wants. No one else is. No, God, no. I'll dare Garcel go to Boz's too. Could you believe that?

Talk to her about things that are going on. To tell her about a text that you read openly to the table in front of cameras with a microphone on. It's so ridiculous. Secret conversation, dude. Your secret conversation is in your phone with P.K. Not the one you share on TV. You can get protein at home or a protein latte at Tim's. No powders, no blenders, no shakers.

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She goes, well, I'm better than last time. And I think I've just suppressed my feelings and, like, you get a run through the events. To sum it all up, Kyle feels betrayed. Yeah. By what happened. Absolutely. Hold on. Let's really dig into just that part, okay?

Just for a second. Kyle feels betrayed that this was brought up in front of the group. Okay. Kyle, who were going to get a montage. of later saying to multiple housewives from this show, if it's going to be brought up, we need to discuss it amongst the group. We all deserve to know, unless it's about you, Kyle. The other part of this is you feel betrayed. You feel betrayed, but you don't see how Dorek could feel betrayed by seeing the fact that you're still texting her husband who she separated from and saying

things like, I've never shared anything you've told me and never will. But you feel betrayed because you were forced to read the betrayal text message that you sent to her husband. That paints a pretty good picture. Okay, cool. And I will say, I'll raise you one more thing. At the age that these women are and their level of class, how are they acting like this? Oh, dude. What a fucking statement?

What a statement to make? We are too old and too classy to do this, guys. Shut up. Shut up. All right, Sutton stormed out of magic my class year because she didn't get caught up on. The first time in her life had to deal with the show. Yeah, you had to be on the receiving end of what you've put so many women through. Let's go talk to LVP.

How does it feel, Kyle? It doesn't feel great, does it? But you're not using this. We need to talk about this. This is getting out of control, guys. Yeah. Stop coming at me like I came at you for so many years. For a text message?

For a text message? Like, I didn't even do anything wrong. I talked to him for 10 years, seven, eight years, six. I love P.K. What's your problem? I didn't do anything wrong. The more you say you didn't do anything wrong, we said it last week makes us think there's more to these texts if you just shut up about it and

said sorry we would stop i i swear to god we would stop talking about it yeah we don't want to keep talking about the fucking tax messages but here we are and garcel tries to speak some sense into the situation which is what it's lacking like that's the craziest part is that kyle can't put together why this is inappropriate and by the way she does know she's not knows yeah there's no way that she's that blind to no she's not but garcel's like if you admitted you talk some shit it's a different story. Just tell it. Like, hey, I was heated. I said some things. Like, I'm sorry. Won't happen again, but like, I was mad at you. But no, you read the text and the text says, I've never said anything, and I never will. And Garcell points out that, it's so black and white,

dude. It really is. That is clearly more than memes and jokes. Kyle stumbles, doesn't have a quick response. He goes, well, well, of course, there's, there's texts. I've known him for seven years. It's never about... It's never about to read, though. Never about to read, though. That's like her next big thing. That's her big sticking point.

Again, the more that you say that, the more that we're going to think, we got to read the rest of these text messages. That's, like, that's... DeReed's not going to ask her to do it at this point, obviously. No, because she wants to move forward. Like, that is where it's going to go because you're pushing people that way. Yeah, to the point... That's the funniest part.

You're trying to push people away from stuff. And while doing that, you're just pushing them further into shit that you don't want to talk about because you are guilty. Yeah, and Garcell's now in a... confession is going the story shifting story shifting originally it's about memes and jokes she maintained that for a very long time you get a montage production nice work on the montage scenes because you're just throwing kyle directly oh yeah they've had these ones stored up yeah and the bottom line garcels says best it just doesn't feel right yeah and Kyle goes everything's been

scrutinized in my this is this should be her tagline honestly because this is this paints the picture of how hypocritical Kyle Richards is. Everything's been scrutinized in my life. My sexuality, my character, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. You're right. It has, Kyle. But let's go over why. All of the Morgan Wade skepticism

came from you because you left it open-ended and did a bunch of ambiguous shit such as a very steamy music video with the two of you in lingerie kissing. That's going to turn some heads and raise some questions when people are already wondering why you're touring with her, why she's tattooing your body, and why it's on screen amidst rumors of you and Moe having marital problems. Okay?

Now, you're getting scrutinized about your character because you admitted to texting P.K. Whilst he and Doreet were separated with a text that says, I've never shared anything you've shared with me, and I never will. After weirdly going on a press tour saying that you've never been friends with Doree. Right. So all of these things add up together are going to call into question your character, which once again is self-inflicted. And then for her to say, I pride myself on telling the truth.

Hit the cutscene. Play the fucking montage. If things are brought up in the open, they need to be addressed by the group. you get another scene where it's like you need to be honest with the group you get all of these scenes about you holding people to a higher standard than yourself when they're called into question but the one time sorry the two times it happens to you last year with Morgan Wade and your marriage and now this year with this fucking text message both times you have ran away you've played victim you pointed fingers everywhere else you gaslit every single woman on this show to the point you that I'm questioning if you did something wrong. Am I crazy? That's literally the epitome of Kyle Richards to go through all of this shit,

self-inflicted wounds two years in a row and then question why people are questioning you, your merit, your character, your relationships, your marriage, Morgan Wade, all of these things you fucking did it. And then when you're held to the fire, you go, what the fuck? Why are you doing this?

Because of you, Kyle. Look in the mirror just one goddamn time and take a modicum of accountability just this much, just a little smidge. And guess what? Because you're Kyle fucking Richards, everybody will back off. I don't know if everybody's going to back off,

but you know that Doreet will. Doreet will. That's all Doreet will. You'll have Doret and Erica and a bridge forward eventually with Garcel probably. Sutton will come back into the fold eventually. Bows might be out on you. I just,

I do feel like there's an avenue forward for her. There's an avenue only for her because of where she's built herself to be. That's what I'm saying. And again, it comes with the territory. You're on a reality TV show. Every housewife has had to go through this. Yeah, except her. You somehow haven't.

And I get it. You've been on this show for 27 years or whatever the fuck it's been. So you've never had to deal with this. So you think this is just life. Finally, you took a left turn. Things are going wrong. Everybody has to deal with this on Housewave shows. And the funniest part is the season vet does not know how to fucking handle it.

Everyone else has been put through the ringer. She excuses herself before she actually sees how things get resolved. Well, no, she doesn't excuse herself. She blames everybody else. says they should be ashamed of themselves and storms out crying. Oh, I meant like in the past. She was like, she's not going to hang around for the resolution. No.

She doesn't have to. That's right. Let's lead them. The funniest. Take this person down. Let's take that person down. All right, I'm going to go walk away now. Let's tell something that she overreacted at Magic Mike by storming out.

And then I'm going to storm out in even grander fashion. And then nobody, nobody say anything about that, though. It's just nuts. It's crazy. Everybody leave Kyle alone. Leave Kyle alone. But first, before we. get back to the rest of Beverly Hills here. I want to talk to you guys quickly about Home Chef

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all right why are we here and Kyle was like I wanted to apologize for how I left and I stand by what I said and I still feel that way but I'm just sorry for how I left and Sutton's like well why do you feel the need to apologize I love the line of questioning

it is a great line of questioning because you said you were going to apologize and then said I'm not taking anything back right so what are you apologizing for your theatrics? She's defending... I think that might be it? She's saying, yeah, she's apologizing for the theatrics.

Yeah, that's what... Okay, all right. Because she's saying I was defending my character. But Sutton goes to a confessional, and she clarifies, I want Kyle to apologize for the fact that she holds herself to a different standard and just be accountable. I'm like, fuck yeah, that's what we all want. That's all we need. Everybody watching this show just wants her to be accountable.

And she's like, well, what did you say? Just recap it for us. She's like, well, you know, I'm sorry for all of it. I'm apologizing for all of it. Like, she's so rattled. She doesn't even know. She doesn't want to apologize for anything specific. No, because then it will put her in a bad spot where she's admitting wrongdoing.

Correct. And she's holding on so hard of the fact that she's not guilty. I'm surprised she didn't pull out a, I'm sorry that you guys felt that way about how I did things. I was expecting it. I'm sorry if. Full time. Yeah. But we didn't get that.

We just got her. I apologize for all of it. For all of it. Eric is like, leave her alone. She's going through a hard time. It's like, yeah, she is, but she's not making it any easier. She wants support from the group, but she keeps tearing the group down. You don't get support that way.

I get where you're coming from, Erica. Yes, all of these women on this show have gone through shitty divorces, weird breakups, and yeah. You know who's going through a lot more right now? De Reit. Because her- Who's going through a lot more because of Kyle now? DeRite.

Look at this. It's very clear. It's just very black and white. I know. I don't get it. I don't either. It's really, really frustrating. And Kyle's like,

I've never behaved like that before. I'm like, okay, sure, why not? And she never had to be that defensive. Yeah, and she just plays the victim. And she's like, I felt friendless and I felt overwhelmed. And Sutton just says that she was surprised. And she's like, you yelled at me for doing the same thing when I stormed out last year in Vegas. And Garcel sums up the whole scene.

She's like, Kyle clearly wanted to just smooth things over because she just wants allies. She wants to know that she has support going into beach weekend or beach night, whatever it is. Beach night. And that's what this whole thing was about, which again, is disrespectful to those invited other than Erica because she just wants it all to be over. And that's the thing too.

If you want to do that and that's your goal and everybody knows it's going to be your goal, you have to actually apologize. And look, it might still end with one of the people sitting there saying you need to do all of this with Doreet or completely remove it from us. Right.

Because we can't deal with it anymore, but you have to apologize to us if you're going to do that. You can't go into this insulting their intelligence, thinking that they're not going to understand what's going on, and then also not apologize.

That doesn't make a lot of sense. It's not how you get people on your team. No. I guess she's never had to get people on her team before because she always had people there. That's a good point. Even when she feuds with one friend, she's got other friends like backing her up or Kesha. And like right now, Eric is shading towards her, but she's not actively going for her. After I said that I would argue this episode pushed her more towards the middle and just be like, we fucking end this, please?

It's overdrawn now. But the girls meet up at Kyle's. they're headed to the beach and they're all meeting there to take the cars and Bose is upset. She gets no apology for the way that Kyle left her house, which, you know, I agree. Yeah, that's a valid, valid thing. And it's also, you can tell Bose is now just like keeping a tally. Like, all right, lied about this, lied about this, thrown out of my house, cause a scene,

didn't say, sorry, okay, cool, cool, cool, check, check. And then Dorita arrives and shares again why what she's going through really fucking sucks. because she's talking about her eight-year-old Jagger who's like, can I talk to you, Mama? Are you and Daddy divorced? Did you post something on Instagram? Then we get like the doom of the Instagram post, which is gut-wrenching.

That sucks to have that conversation. And he ends it with like, you guys are always going to be best friends, right? It's like, oh my God, this is awful. We should take as much time as humanly possible to let Doreet say her piece, how she's feeling. Let's comfort her and get her through this

because, God, I don't want to have that conversation with my kid. What, she's got to be going through it. No, one, not one person's face changes. Bose's dip. That's it. Literally everyone else is just blank face staring at her. And as she's talking, Sutton, it's funny.

It's sad. It's funny. Interrupts and goes, speaking of best friends, like just jumps right in. And I'm like, oof. And then she keeps going. She's like, we really need to go. And by the way, Garcel does it.

I get what she was trying to do. I know exactly what she was trying to nip in the bud and be like, there's no drama this weekend. Garcel made it very clear, no drama, guys. And she's trying to just stop it there. He's a dumb move anyway. Very dumb. It's always drama.

That's the point. It's going to happen regardless. You don't need to voice this. It's not going to like, you're not going to get a gold star in Garcell's book when she goes back and watches this. Right. It's funny that it happened. Very funny.

Sad. Very, very sad. Then a little funny. But overall, it's very odd to me because, Like, you would think that these women would be better equipped to maybe help out? For sure. And you'd also think with the way that Kyle's moving. Yeah.

They'd want to be more on Team Doree. Or if you're Kyle, you might see this as a grand opportunity to squash everything right now. Perhaps. You could just be nice to her, maybe give her a hug and say that's really fucking hard. I don't know how you're going through that because my kids are older or anything. And you know what? I think Doreet would take that as an apology and you guys could move on right away. It would be a huge step.

It would be the biggest thing ever, and it's the easiest thing. It's served on a silver platter that's all you had to do. Kyle goes stone-faced, Sutton speaks up and just completely cuts her off. Like, how does this happen? It was insane. But to her credit, I will always give credit or credits to it. At least Kyle acknowledges Sutton doing that. She's like, oof, that was a bad, like, that was a bad timing.

She wouldn't have done that. She shouldn't have. Again, funny, but it was fucked up. The biggest thing, like you said with Kyle there, That would have been such an easy, just like, oh, I'm so sorry. And then you move on, whatever. We get to the beach and Tilly, Tilly being Tilly, we got a $700 dolce and Gabana toaster. Fucking smeg.

Hell yeah. That thing looked sick. I want one. It's awesome, yeah. And you know what? I got blues and whites. You actually work in your kitchen, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

I am not going to buy a Dolce and Gabana $700 toaster. Could be cool. There might be a refurbished one. A refurbished toaster? Yeah, dude. Well, my first thought was if one of us had that toaster, would we actually toast shit in it? I probably would. Yeah, I probably would.

But you don't know about the refurbish life, my guy? Refurbished toaster is like the last thing that I think of. When it's a $700, like, there's refurbish, pretty much any kitchen appliance you can buy refurbish. Yeah, I don't trust refurbish things. I can't say that. Yeah, maybe that's why you don't trust it because you can't pronounce it. I can't say trust refurbished. Yeah, there we go.

I said it right that time. Now you can buy refurbish stuff. Nice. Good job. But we get to the beach and Sutton's wearing a 1950 swimsuit, which is awesome. And I love these lines. This is like when guys walk into like a dude hangout and they say some stupid shit. Like, oh, here comes trouble.

This is a bunch of Uber wealthy housewife cast members from Beverly Hills riding in golf cards to the beach. from Garcell's brand new, beautiful beach house. There goes the neighborhood. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. People look at these two golf carts, like, oh, look out for this crew. Like, I love those. They just saw a $700 toaster going into that house.

There goes the neighborhood. Fuck out of here, dude. They just drove from that beautiful, brand new beach house in golf carts. Yeah. Oh, boy. These wacky, wacky ladies. You're going to go drink on the beach. Oh, God.

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Get it wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, even there. What I did appreciate, thank God, is that we just get into it right away. We don't waste any time. Kyle goes up to Derreet and says, hey, can we go chat? I appreciated the fact that Kyle made the effort to go get here. Great setting, too. Beautiful walk on the beach.

Let's go sit down now. It looked really windy and cold there at the time. It looked miserable out there. But, I mean, it's really cold here. Well, it's not that cold here today. Today was nice. It was like 49. It was nice.

But still. It looked pretty. It was a good setting. Pretty, but chilly. Yeah. Yeah. But, hey, let's go talk. And they sit down on the beach.

And you can feel it's lighter. Like, you know where this is going because they're on the beach. And they're finally one on one. And I like Doreet sticking to it, starting it out with, did you consider us good friends? I'm glad Kyle just said, yes. Great question. But I'm glad you said yes, but yes. And yes.

If. yes we can move past that final right let's move forward do you want to salvage this friendship yes i'm like all right at least you're handling this well good start affirmatives yeah we get affirmatives affirmations yep sure now let's get to the never repeated comment never repeated anything you said duret we've seen her do this last episode we're watching her do it now she's offering you an out yes that's all this is yep she doesn't doesn't believe it. She doesn't care if you believe it. She doesn't care. She has it rationalized in her own head. Yes. You just need to say yes, which you do, but you do it in your own way by saying no to her, which is the funniest shit ever. She's like, I know you were just saying you're a friend. She goes, no, what I said was I'm a safe space. Bad. What's the fucking difference? Bad move. Why could you not just say, yeah, you're right. I just as a friend, yes, I would not divulge anything that we've spoken about when it comes to you. Personally, you, not your relationship.

That's all you have to say. You literally just repeated what Doreet said, but you just used a different word. Yep. You said safe space instead of friend. Correct. Just so you could combat her once more. Really fucking annoying. But Doreet stays on task, which is good.

She's like, look, this is why it's inappropriate. This is why it's not okay. I just separated with my husband. I thought we were very close friends. I thought we were best friends. That's what she really wants to say. Do you not see where the disconnect is? Now I'm questioning, are you loyal to me or are you loyal to P.K.?

Which is the most valid question, especially for somebody that considered herself your close, close friend. It's not goddamn rocket science. Three didn't mince any words either. No, she was very to the point. She didn't make anything about something else that has nothing to do with this. She just stayed on task the entire time, asked all of the questions that we've been wondering. Not even really wondering. We know the answer to all of this.

But she asked her directly to her face The questions that Kyle needs to answer Yes Without a group setting Without anything else No other bullshit Let's sit down as friends And I will ask you

All of the questions that you need to answer Which you didn't have to answer Before you brought them up None of this would have happened If you didn't keep going Correct So now you have to answer For all of the things that you've put out there

It's so crazy And she's like Again like if you are my friend I expect you to share information with me when you're talking to my husband. I think that's pretty fucking fair. Yeah. Even if they're, like,

even if you're not separated, like, that's just information that you share with your spouse or your best friend if they're talking to your best friend's spouse. That's a weird dynamic. It could be a weird dynamic, unless you're on the up and up about it.

Just tell her. And even weirder, which Doree didn't really get into, but very weird, that we're not talking, and you're talking to my husband. Yes. That's the weirdest part about all of this,

but look, I understand we can't address everything today. Let's just, she's just trying to move it forward, trying to move it forward. And Kyle's like, I didn't think about choosing sides. I didn't know. It's like, fuck, man, stop talking. Yep. Because Doreet knows that you knew because we have a cutscene from last year of Dorete telling you. So yes, you did know. And in that moment, when Dorete's telling you, I'm having marital issues, that's when the text should have stopped. Hey, PK, you're my friend. I care about you. I'm uncomfortable having these conversations while you and Doret are going through what you're going to. That would be a girl's girl.

That's a girl's girl. What's not a girl's girl is, fuck you, Doreet, P.K. sends funny memes. That's actually why Kyle wasn't invited to her daughter's lunch. She's not a real girl's girl. Oh, shit. Shots fired. Shots fired. But yeah, I mean, maybe.

Yeah. Doreet sums it up with what you expect from me. This is a great way to put it. It's going to go over Kyle said because she doesn't think that she holds herself to a different standard. But what you expect from me, I want that same respect. Okay. And I want to have conversations. where we can share and build our trust back.

Dorete did what she had to do to move this along. This was not Doreet's job. She did not need to be the one offering these outs, offering a way forward, trying to come to some kind of agreement to be able to be friends again. But that shows you how important this friendship is to Dorete, which makes this whole thing even more tragic and even sadder that Kyle can't recognize that

because she goes to a confessional. She's like, if that's what Dorete needs, okay, I feel bad for PK, but But what? Yeah, there is no but. It should have just been so plain for her to hear. It's like every time that she has a conversation with anybody, whether it's Doreet or Erica or Gersel or Sutton,

she just doesn't see how easy it is and how plain it is. It could be so quick. And this is when my mind is just doing flips too, because I don't understand how she doesn't see it. And then I start thinking, Does she see it, but she just refuses to actually acknowledge that she did something wrong? I don't know anymore. I don't think so.

I just don't know. I think that she has her own way of thinking. I think she has her own reality. P.K., he's never done anything to me personally. Bingo. So why would I drop a friendship with him just because you have issues of them? Because I've had shit with you. I've had a lot of shit with you to read and I'm with P.K.

Not a girl's girl. No, that's not a friend. Nope. That's not a friend. That's all. You ride with your friends ups and downs. This idiot's pissed me off. plenty of times I know for a for damn sure I pissed him off up we're still besties and we

always will be yep even with even hands every time that we finish yeah yeah fuck it sure why not we're talking about the podcast yeah totally but yeah gross dinner we're at dinner a calendar eat okay which is you know erika's like thank god I'm tired of it I'm so tired of it we all are so we're hoping that this sticks at least fried chicken on the beach with some sand in it I would I would cry it's a little crud just a little crunchier Yeah. It's a little crunchier. With the wind blowing, there's definitely sand on the chicken.

Definitely sand in the skin. Definitely. You know what? I haven't had fried chicken in so long. That sounds so fucking good. It sounds really good. Oh, my God. Maybe I'll make some fried chicken.

Yeah. That sounds delicious. And different than a cutlet, too. Not even like that. No, no, not a cut. I want a fried thigh. Yeah. Oh, God.

That sounds amazing. I'm so fucking hungry right now. What are we talking about? Beverly Hills? Chicken. Chicken. Oh, man. Once I was I saw me at Popeyes.

Long time. Ooh, I might need to do a Popeye's wrong. We used to do the KFC Bowl. Yeah, I remember that when we go on the baseball trip. Oh, yeah. We mashed potatoes, popcorn chicken. How did we not? There was something else in there.

I got heartburn every time that I ate it. Cheese and gravy. And we would drink beers all night. Yep. We would wake up. We would eat Golden Corral for breakfast. Go to practice. Eat Shake Shack or KFC bowls for lunch.

Yep. have a game, and then drink beers all night. Yeah. And not one person shit their pants. Go to the Golden Corral again for dinner. Yeah, they go to one crowd for dinner. And not one person shit their pants, and I know. Sometimes it was Salisbury Steak Night.

Oh, go. I kind of want to go to Golden Corral, too. Yeah. Where are we? Let's finish this shit up. Look, that's it. They do the lantern thing, and I had to, I thought they should have cut this scene. Why?

Because I thought they were going to light them. Yeah. thought they were going to work. Uh-huh. And given what's going on in California, maybe let's not show fire lanterns on a windy day at the beach in California. Fair point.

Like when they were doing it, I'm like, ooh, really? Yeah. It's not the best time. Yeah. That's a really good point. Yeah, but luckily they didn't light any of them. We also were able to weirdly get through a game

without any fights. There's no fights. It was actually a nice game. They had an actual time to play a game without people yelling at each other. Yep. Potentially talking about, having sex with somebody else's husband for $10 million or $20 million or like it's indecent

proposal is the basis of if somebody offered you X amount of money to have sex with your spouse what would that number be yeah so fun times fun times great times the girls I have to bring this up yeah go for it the episode starts with a bird flying into the window which Kyle says what does that bird mean the episode ends with a dead bird on the beach for sure Shadowing? Posenance? I think not. Same bird? Who knows? No, it wasn't. The first one was little. That was like a, looked like a pigeon actually, which is strange.

You think it would be a seagull. It looked a pigeon-esque. Birds aren't real. Yeah, they're robots. Everybody knows that. They're listening to us. Birds are dinosaurs. Some of my favorite memes when it's a chicken and he's looking up in the sky and it's a T-Rex. T.Ricks is saying, remember who you are. The Lion King music.

Dinosaurs aren't dead because birds are dinosaurs and they're everywhere. Hey, let's get some questions. If you know that movie I just quoted and that obscure quote from that movie, I'll send you a t-shirt. From Janice Furlman's $700 toaster, does it actually work? Who cares? It's beautiful. Yeah, it's such a great piece for the kitchen. It's not a toaster. That's art. Yep.

It was. It was really pretty. I really liked it. From Captain 6180, we kind of cover this. We really cover this. Is it normal to have a sponsor call for a separation? People really need to ask that question more because it's not. No, it would look, like I said, I think I, I hope I did a good job. If the guy's there to help mediate and step in if needed and speak on P.K.'s

behalf, if it's an actual mom or PK's triggered, yes. Yes, it is okay. Correct. Not for him to speak entirely with no, because here's the thing. yes, you're concerned about P.K.'s well-being, absolutely, in sobriety. He might be an asshole, but I don't wish him ill on that journey. At the same time, part of sobriety is being cognizant of how you're affecting the other people that are going through this journey.

So just because P.K.'s now safe, you also have to take into account Dorit's feelings. Yes. And they completely left her out to dry, clearly. So that was wildly mishandled, yeah. Wildly. From Zoe Hoodla-Polay, Kyle hasn't told any secrets? She outed her sister's addiction in season one. So not a friend, not a girl's girl, not a sister's sister.

And the hits keep on coming. Yes, they do. From Ryan Stoman 83, the episodes are always better with Tilly. Am I wrong? You are not wrong. He's the goat. You are wrong most of the time, Ryan, but not this time. No, I have the biggest crush on Jennifer Tilly.

I think she's awesome. She's so great. We'll do two more here. From Drew Blackwell Photo. Kyle made up with Doreet to get everyone all. off of her back, not because she likes her. Yes. Yes, I fully agree with that one.

And, yeah. And last one here from Jacqueline Michelle Kress. Did you actually believe Kyle's dumb sorry at that sham of a dinner? No, again, it's pretty much the same answer to that. It was a move. It's a move to just try to get people to get off of her back because she doesn't know how to handle it. She didn't take any actual accountability in that apology.

It just did not. Doreet moving the train forward, that's all. Yep, correct though. But yeah, that's all we got. out there. Well, you got anything else? Nope, I'm good on my end. That's our show. Bro's got to go. Hi, I'm here to tell you about Good Morning Night Vale. Welcome to Nightvale's official recap show and unofficial best friend food podcast. Join me, Meg Bashwinner and fellow try hosts, Hal Lublin and Symphony Sanders, as we dissect all of the cool, squishy, and slimy bits of every episode of

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