Bros & Shows - Interesting Summer for Summer... (Summer House Martha's Vineyard Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

What's up Bros? We are back in the Vineyard and this show continues to excel. In this episode, tensions are still fairly high between Summer and Alex, meanwhile Noelle has expressed some interest in A...lex as well. But she did not know the extent of Summer and Alex's 'relationship'... Jordan and Summer talk to Preston about Nick getting a little too comfortable and handsy when he starts to drink especially. Back to Summer, Alex and Noelle, Summer is now acting like she was only with Alex as a casual thing with no real expectations, despite the first episode and some of her sentiments. Noelle is wondering how much she can trust Summer because she never divulged that her and Alex slept together. Summer also throws a jab at Shanice and makes her cry about her clothing even though she knows that Shanice lost her job. This is a fun season so far and it appears it is only getting better! Time Stamps: intro (0-7:00) SHMV (7:01) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always. by the one and only, Scooter Magouter. What's up, dude? Feeling a lot better this week. We actually had some audio issues here because we had to readjust for me not having a voice last week,
Starting point is 00:01:40 but guess what, fuckers? Voices back. He's back. Ready to roll. Thank God. Yeah. Just in time, too, because we're going to talk about a little bit of Martha's Vineyard today by a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I mean, the entire episode is dedicated to Martha's Vineyard. Yep. And this is a show that I am starting to every week get excited to watch. And it's on a Sunday night. There's no football. So, you know, I'm ready to roll. I'm still going to watch it on Peacock the next day because I can't tolerate commercials. But I'm ready to do it.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, I've really been enjoying it. That's funny you said that. That's a good way to put it because I am also looking forward to it each week. Like, it's a really good show. And I know, I feel like we have to sell it at the beginning of every episode that we do for Martha's Vineyard. But until you guys start watching it more, We're going to keep saying this in the beginning because it's a really good show. It's well done.
Starting point is 00:02:29 The characters are very likable for the most part. I'm having a couple of issues with a couple people this week, but that's what you want, right? That's a good show. You'll wait and see. We'll get into the episode. We'll talk about it. But it's really good, good TV. Noel, the newbie is fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:46 She's a great addition to the show, really enjoying her. So all in all, it's just a fun show. And last week, we had a discussion about the setup because you were under the impression. that they came in every weekend, similar to Summer House. But since Martha's Vineyard is out, like on the island, it's hard to get there. This is a two-week straight. Yeah, I know that I fucked up last week, and I said that I thought they were coming back and forth. And then when they showed day two of 15, obviously I immediately knew I was incorrect.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Right. And I remembered that last year it was the same thing. So that's on me. Hand up? That's on me. Your hands not up. Hand up. Oh, I'd fuck. Damn it. Hand up.
Starting point is 00:03:27 If you don't, well, I guess you don't know because that was pre-show. We have been flipping out because we moved all of our equipment because we had to go to Steele's parents last week. We moved it back in. Everything seemed slightly out of place. I thought Steele was going to kick the absolute shit out of his laptop and everything else. And then we were just going to call it today. That's the best way to put it. Everything is slightly off-kilter and it's driving me crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Not to mention this fucking weather, dude, has me. straight up depressed like i cannot stand i cannot wake up one more day and walk outside and see gray rain it's driving me nuts and then we had a day yesterday where i went to the philly's game we got the win it was a great game had a lot of fun me and dev had a blast sunny 61 degrees little windy but that's okay wake up today fucking raining and gray so it's almost worse because it was almost like a glimpse like a little glimmer of light through the shit that this whole month has been. And I'm like, fuck yeah, we're almost through it. No, five more days of rain. Thank God I'm going to Italy next week because I might run head first into a tree. That's the thing
Starting point is 00:04:33 that I don't understand because, yeah, it's raining today and it's gray and everything. But like Friday was nice. I actually, I walked over and shout out in Fishtown, you can go to other half brewing. I walked over there. It was a lovely little park. Free plug. Free plug. Lovely little park hung out there, had a few beers outside. Saturday was pretty nice. It rains a tiny bit. Saturday was not nice. I walked around the city. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Sick, bro. Maybe I was cool. Yeah. See, that's the difference. I can enjoy. Maybe you need to drink again. Well, people are going to be so pissed about that comment. But understand that I know he's kidding.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And this is an ongoing bit. So it's not a big deal. Everyone's settled down. Yeah. Grow up. But look, let me bring it down. Let me simmer down a little bit. I'm a hot little potato today.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Plus, it's April Fool's, which is the dumbest fucking. day in the world. I already did my rant on that. You're making a big deal about that today. I was. You put a, I get like you throw the story up there, but to make it a post, it's like, we get it. No, I needed it to sit there forever. Because I need like, I don't get it. And I, we're going to get to the show in a second. Don't you worry. We're getting there. But I don't get it. And especially because every single account on Instagram does the same thing. Well, what's something funny we can post? And then they post it. It's like, well, it's not true. Then there's that whole tizzy where some people are like it is true and then you have this stupid argument you're like
Starting point is 00:05:55 oh yeah it's april first ho got me and you didn't like when it's a universal joke it's not funny you do the um i i you probably don't this this is probably like office coded but uh the new york times does uh something about connections and they do like little word games that you can play in the mornings oh i mean i used to i used to do crosswords when i played baseball would do the whole puzzle section yeah yeah yeah so like online you can do that and that's where you know like wordle and like all those things, whatever. So today they do something called connections, and it's just like all different words,
Starting point is 00:06:26 and you have to pick like the four categories. You pick like four for each or three for each or whatever. They opened it today, and it was just all emojis, and it threw everybody off, and it was four April Fool's Day. But it was like slightly easier, so people weren't that pissed off about it, but every little thing changes. And it gets to the point where I forget that it's April Fool's Day,
Starting point is 00:06:44 and I'm reading something. That's my point. I sent you something two hours ago that I haven't actually told you about now, they were going to make a Zelda movie with Studio Ghibli It's April Fools, isn't it? It's April Fools. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:06:56 That's not fucking funny. At all. I'm furious about that because that would be incredible. And now that I think about it, yeah, Studio Ghibli would never do that. So that doesn't make any sense, but I got excited about it
Starting point is 00:07:05 and now I'm pissed. Yeah, but that's a great example because that's not funny. Did you see the Eagles account that was like we're trading Devante Smith to the Cowboys for a third round pick? They just traded Hassan Reddick,
Starting point is 00:07:17 so maybe let's not make those jokes. Maybe let's not make those jokes. That's why I love Philadelphia. of sports though how we waited until opening day to trade drop that yeah it was like a Friday news dump yep look we haven't sat down with each other in a while so we got a debrief a lot of things all right so all you that get mad that we have a preamble this is we don't really do the preamble anymore so just deal with it yeah do it April fools guys let's get a little preamble full circle we got a we always got a cake full circle yep but uh look I'll be fine
Starting point is 00:07:47 as I said next week I'm going to Italy my wife and I are finally celebrating our honeymoon because after the wedding, things were too crazy to go anywhere. So we are headed out to Italy. So we're going to have our normal episodes for you this week. Next week's going to be a little bit different. We are going to still have four episodes for you. But since Vanderpump Villa is premiering, we have three episodes of that to recap. So next week will be three of those, a summer house and a Martha's Vineyard?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Is that right? No, Martha Vineyard airs on Sunday night. So you will be in the air. So we got a summer house and three villas next week. So that will be our week next week. We'll have regularly scheduled programming the following week. We'll probably do some makeup episodes here and there just to kind of get us back on track. But just so you know what to expect moving forward.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And for anyone that gets upset that we're not covering the normal stuff, just be happy for me and my wife that we get to go on our honeymoon finally. Yeah. Just be happy for once. Just be happy. Everyone, unlike us. Yeah, miserable fucks over here. Hey, look out the window.
Starting point is 00:08:46 It's goddamn gray. Let's get into the fucking show. But that takes us to Martha's Vineyard, which, like we said in the beginning, it's a really, really solid show. And I'm really enjoying this season. The cast overall is very likable. There's a, like I said, there's a couple of people starting to wear a little bit thin, mainly summer is starting to get on my nerves. And Nick, weirdly enough. And I think I forgot that Nick had a little bit of the same behavior last year.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And then Tasia, his girlfriend, came to the house, and people tried to call him out. I forgot this whole thing. And Tasia defended Nick. Yes. Remember that? So I forgot about all of that. But overall, what I enjoy most about this show is that everyone brings their own unique flavor to this house. Like, everyone has their own individuality.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And they come together in this group and they get along very well together. Even when shit's not going great between people, they're able to still have fun. Yeah. I think that's the huge thing when it comes to this show. I'm not even breaking it down to an individual. individual, like, do I like this character or not type of situation? I'm just loving the fact that they're all enjoying their time together. And it's a very easy watch.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And it's not convoluted because, look, they're there to have fun for two weeks. And that's exactly what they're doing. Some people are going and getting mad at certain other people and they're going to go split off and do their own thing and have little side-by-side conversations. That's fine. But what's the rest of the crew doing? Partying, having a good time. That's all we really want.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That's all we really wanted from Summer House. and we're sort of getting back from that and Summerhouse O.G. But now we get to see this. This is their second season. They could have gone so many different directions with this. They could have really leaned into it. They could have been very cognizant of all the cameras everywhere, trying to build their own individual brand.
Starting point is 00:10:32 We're not getting any of that. It's just people just living together, vibing together, or not viving together, and you get to see all of it. So it's great. I agree with you to a certain extent. Oh, I do have one complaint. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The truth booth? They're not using it enough. They are using it, but it's not. at the right time. No, it's like one-liners. It's like a quick confessional the next day. They're in completely different outfits. I want them drunken in the truth booth.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Get in the truth booth and start yelling about some random shit that's going. Like, Cheneas, instead of going upstairs and crying, go to the truth booth. Then get it all off your chest. Firmly agree that truth booth is not being utilized the correct way. We need knee-jerk reactions. We don't need the next day when they've had time to sit there and think about what they want to say. I agree with that. But I slightly disagree that people don't have agendas as far as them pushing certain narratives.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's not everybody. I think the vast majority of the house is just there to vibe. In this episode specifically, I saw one person trying to put up a little bit of a front that we'll get to. And I think that Summer is trying to now steer a narrative that she started in the first episode. So let's dive in so we can discuss these things. But we start out, and I want to start with this because it's important later. We see Nick grabbing Summer's arm in the car, okay? We've seen some stuff before, and we get a flash over to, like, him taking pictures from episode one,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and I forgot about this moment. The way that he's holding Jordan and Summer when he's taking that picture, and they keep moving his hands, it's like, meh, it doesn't, it's not great. No. And as they address it later, it's not fully sleazeball. It's not like, holy shit, this guy's gross. It's just like, it's too much. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's a little too much. It's too much for a friend. You can even drop the fact that he has a girlfriend because that's their issue. If he's going to do that to his girlfriend, if his girlfriend's going to see that in a different light, that's up to them entirely. But as a friend with girls, you just don't do that. No, weird. It is weird. So, yeah, no, I fully understand that.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I feel like the term handsy, too, implies that it's, you know, sexual or overbearing and gross and gropey. Yeah. And it's not even that. It's just, it's slightly over a line and it's just kind of creepy and weird. It's handsy. It's like, stop touching me.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You know what? People have friends like that where they come over and they have to put their arm around you. Don't touch you have to like have your hand or have their hand on your lower back while they're talking. It's like stop touching me. Or like close talkers. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:58 That's probably the best way to do with it. It's a close talker, but instead it's my hands on you. Right. No. I get on your hand off me. Think, I agree.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I get uncomfortable when people like, the lower back one is bizarre to me. Or, like, when they come up close to you and they put their hand, like, on the bottom of your neck, you know what I'm saying? No. Like, I'll do it to you later. You'll get it.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Not, no, no, no. Who's touching your lower neck? It's a very specific, when I do it, when I show you, like, oh, that. People are going to think it's gross, what I'm saying. It's not. It's like, it's almost like putting their arm around you, but they don't go all the way around you. They just put it like in the center of your, yeah, yeah, yeah, right there
Starting point is 00:13:31 in the, like, in between your shoulder blades. Yeah, that's not what, yeah. Maybe I said it weird. It's not what you said. I say it weird. I was like, it was thumb and finger on the bottom of my neck. I'm like, who's doing that to you? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Whoa. Not that. That's a little sensual. Hey, are they massaging while they're doing that? No. A little squeeze. Look, it's, no, I said it wrong. I'm just wondering.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's hand in the middle of like the shoulder blades. I don't like that. But anyway. It's been in a narrative here? What's going on? What happened? I don't know. Back to the show.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But we get quick checking with Brea and Summer, and we find out that Simon's coming soon. I love Simon. Not necessarily because I think he's the best dude in the world. He is great TV. This man is unhinged. And like, like I said that comparison to Elon Musk, like I imagine that's how he parties. Like he gets there, he's in his jeans in the hot tub, drinking champagne straight from the body. He's like, I'm just here to have fun guys.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Like I fucking love Simon. So I'm excited for him to get back. But they start talking about Jasmine. And I think that we can surmise that she is actually pregnant. summer yes like she's not drinking we know that she's pregnant now and they make that one line about silas where it's like this is what enlisted men do knock him up and go overseas but i think we all can agree that she is pregnant right now but i'm curious that that will come out at some point but moving on we get preston and amir and we know that last episode preston's
Starting point is 00:14:51 father's funeral was that day um amir is good about this stuff he does check in with people he's a very emotionally intelligent person yeah let's do that yeah is that what he is that's what we'll call Emotion, yeah. Yeah, he's an emotional guy. So he checks in with Preston to make sure that he's good. And he says, you know, my first reaction was sad, but the more we find out about this relationship, the tougher it is, I think, because he's like, you know, most of my life he wasn't there. And then when he rekindled this, this relationship between the two of us, it was still contentious and difficult, mainly because certain things like, you know, when he told his dad, he's gay. His dad's like, well, I didn't raise you to be gay.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And Preston's like, you didn't raise me, period, guy. So, like, you don't really have a say in the matter, not that you would anyway. But finally, I like that we get this background on people early. Like, I feel like for a lot of these shows, it's like season four, season five. And then we finally get to dive into, like, their background and their childhood and things that have been difficult for them. But I feel like you get a really good connection with characters on these shows when you find out more about them earlier on. Yeah, and I think that has a lot to do with somebody like Amir actually asking. the question. Now, obviously, you know, the timing of his dad's death and everything comes into play.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Maybe we wouldn't have known about all of that. We wouldn't have known about his childhood if his dad didn't pass away, right when the show started filming. Things like that obviously pop up, but it's important to have people in this show like Amir who are going to have that one-on-one conversation and see how you are because you're going to get to open up. You're going to have more information and you're going to share that with the audience. And I want Preston to do that more because I like Preston a lot. I think Preston's great. One, he's great TV. Two, he's also not afraid to share whatever's on his mind, which is exactly what we need. 100%.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And he keeps it real every time he talks to, which I appreciate. Did I tell the story that he messaged? I did last week, yeah. I think he might come on the show at some point. It's not get too excited. I don't want to lock it in before it's locked in, but he said that he would, so hopefully we can get him on here soon. But the next scene we get Nick with the dudes.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And the dudes are in, I'm going to call it the dude cave. So they're down in the dude cave chit-chatting about summer. And now I had an opinion on. the first episode that maybe Nick led her a certain way or maybe overindulged on like some promises I don't think that's what happened at all I'm still in the thinking that I I think he led it a little bit maybe because they do the side-by-side conversation where summer I think summer was talking to Jordan about it and they were talking about just sex in general or whatever and it's a little bit later in the episode but the way that summer went about it she said yeah you
Starting point is 00:17:31 now, like, she kind of withheld the information about the actual sex, but she said he's a really great kisser, and he's a great cuddler, and I could, and everyone's like, oh, yeah, I can see him being a good cuddler because he's so in touch with his emotions, whatever. So I can see him doing all of those things, and we did know from last year, Summer views it, like, I'm going to have sex with somebody that I love. So I think Alex, I mean, Alex knew that. Alex knows all of that. So I think he still played the game a little bit to try to, and he even said it, to try
Starting point is 00:17:58 to get into her pants, and like, maybe I was thinking with the wrong head, blah, blah, blah, that typical joke. I think that, I don't know, because Summer's obviously going against everything that she said in the first episode now. So it's hard to say, but I mean, I could see Alex playing the quote-unquote boyfriend role trying to schmooze himself in there
Starting point is 00:18:16 and then kind of losing interest after he realizes it. I could too, and I'm not saying that he's not blameless here because I'm sure there was some of that. But when he starts talking about some of the red flags as to why he got turned off from this potential relationship, because in his words, He's like, you know, I was going to see where it went after we left the house. Do I believe that?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Or was he just trying to get lucky? I don't really know. But, for example, the picture. That's pretty fucking stupid. You think it's stupid for Alex? I think, yeah, dude. They stayed in the same house last year. Like, they're friends, they're traveling together.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Jordan and some are really close. If you're a girl and you fly to L.A. to go hang out with another guy and you're talking to your best friends, you snap a picture and just send it over. I think he's freaking out about that. because he's such a private dude, and he's private because he wants to hook up with as many girls as possible. You're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You're right. I looked at it wrong. You're correct. So he just got, yeah, he got outed pretty much. That's not a flag. That's just girls talking. Yeah, you got outed, and then now you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, too fast. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:16 How dare you share a picture of me without my consent? Like, what are you talking? That's a good point. What were you doing? Sniffing flowers? That's what it looks. Every time they show that picture, like, what the fuck is he actually doing? I think he's sniffing flowers.
Starting point is 00:19:26 That's definitely what he's doing because he's in touch with himself. You're right. You're right. I looked at it wrong. Good call. But Nick speaks up. And there's a theme here. And it will continue throughout this episode and likely throughout this season.
Starting point is 00:19:40 But he's like, you got a rebeat. And I was like, what the fuck is a rebate? Is a funny term. Rebeats a very funny turn. He's like, but you got a rebate. And he's like, what's a rebate? And he explains. He goes, you beat it up once.
Starting point is 00:19:51 But you got to go back and rebeat. So it's beat it up again. It's a very funny term. But Amir questions it. And I was like, yeah, that's a valid question. He's like, why? Like, why are you so... Invested in that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, and they talk about it later. I don't want to jump too far ahead. But all signs are pointing to a guy that doesn't really want to be in a relationship. That's what I get from Nick. Yeah, or he's... I don't know. Nick seems to be the type of guy that, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:17 when he's home and he's with Tasia, he's fine, but now he's with all the boys and he's putting on this like, oh, yeah, I'm going to live vicariously through you single guys out here. But he's not, it's not vicarious. He's living, he's living it. He's living it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:30 He's doing it too, so that's my point. The hands, yeah, of course, but. The hands and, like, the eyes, I literally wrote down, like, when they're all twerking and dancing in the living room later. That's hilarious. I mean, what are you going to do? If you're sitting there and there's three girls on either side of you twerking, you get up and leave, maybe, but, like, you would remove yourself in the situation. If you're just shot, like his face when he's looking around, was so goddamn funny. It looks like a guy going to a strip club for the situation.
Starting point is 00:20:55 the first time because he's just ear to ear smiling, staring at all of their asses one by one. He's like, uh, it's like a kid to candy store. He's like, ass, ass, ass. It's like, Nick, Tage is going to see this guy. Like, you cannot sit there with a shit-eaten grin staring at a girl's ass inches from your face.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah, you can get up and walk to the other side of the you still want to watch. Sure, go ahead and do that on your own. I don't know what you're doing, but you did not do it right, but the way that he's trying to voice is, as though that he's not doing some weird shit. But I also have to call out Amir's girlfriend because every single time that this man references
Starting point is 00:21:31 her in regards to any other woman, not saying that he would hook up with any other woman, just if another woman's involved, his first response every single time. Natalie would cut my dick off. That's a red flag. Did you say that last week that you're like, this is going to get really tired really quick? He's going to bring up his girlfriend all the time. Yeah. He does.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I mean, he takes it a step further a little bit later. But in this moment, dude, we don't care. We get it. We understand it. You weren't even really involved. No. You kind of interjected yourself and then pulled yourself out
Starting point is 00:22:00 by way of my girlfriend would cut my dick off. We weren't talking about you. We're not. We're talking about whether or not Alex should repeat. This has nothing to do with you. But that's what Alex, or sorry, Amir, that's what guys like that do when they get in a relationship. They have to remind you like, oh, yeah, I got a girl now, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I got a girl and she wouldn't be cool with any of this shit. It's like, well, you're still here. Two episodes in, he's brought his girlfriend up 10 times. At least. I'm going to start keeping a counter. But regardless. Goodbye, summer movies, hello fall. I'm Anthony Devaney.
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Starting point is 00:24:14 stories. Good morning, Night Vale, with new episodes every other Thursday. Get it wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, even there. We move on to Decade Night, and we do. do get to find out from Noelle and I like getting to know more about our newbies. Noel was a shy person for a very long time and sort of found her confidence through dressing up. Now, the only reason I want to reference this is because I resonate with this because I like
Starting point is 00:24:38 to wear stupid shit as you know. I found a lot of my style and stuff like my comfortability and myself was from wearing stupid shit and then I branched off and I was like, oh, okay. If you weren't a shy guy. No, but I think where I got it from is that my mom, He used to, like, pick me up from school wearing wigs and shit, just to fuck with me. Oh, yeah, probably. I just honestly wanted an excuse to share that story because Gail would pull up to my elementary school in, like, a jet black. Like, have you seen The Incredibles? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:11 What's her name? Edna? Yes. Edna Mode. Yeah. She had that fucking wig, and she would get out of the car with big ass glasses on in a fucking wig and be like, like, steal. And, like, wave. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I think that's where I got it from. That's probably where you. out of front. I just wanted to share that story because, yeah, it makes me laugh. But we get the decade night and we're starting to go through everybody's outfit. Jasmine with the 50s housewife and a mirror with the comment. Like, I didn't think we're supposed to dress up as ourselves. That was funny. That's funny. Preston, dressing up as juice. Perfect. Fucking amazing. Great. Shame on you, Cheneas for not seeing juice. It is a fucking Tupacacicor at his finest. Yeah, great movie. But is Arthur Ash. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:53 why he didn't I don't think he had the intention of doing that until he sat there that day and he's like oh yeah this is what I have I wear my tennis weights which is funny because not only did he do that he threw an outfit together that he thought would work I mean yeah Arthur ash I guess kind of goes with the 70s because it happened in the 70s he was good and he won a couple of grand slams in the 70s but that's not it doesn't exemplify a decade no it certainly for him to then get mad about it because we're not winning one understand what the fuck he's doing and two appreciating his outfit is crazy they didn't
Starting point is 00:26:28 know who Arthur Ash was it's funny I love when he gets so mad about stuff like that it's crazy no one else gives his shit the funniest part is the tennis emporium or whatever you want to call it there's a facility towards the city and it's Arthur Ash tennis facility my sisters used to play there
Starting point is 00:26:44 but yeah it's not a decade piece it's just you're dressing up as a person from the decade that wasn't I don't think that's what the assignment was but We start to see where people start to talk a little bit of shit on Chenise. And she doesn't know what they're talking about because they say, I'm getting a working girl, which is a prostitute.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And she doesn't put two and two together as they're pretty much making fun of her. But we find out that Brea, who's dressed up as a 2000s girl, was in a rap group called Greater Than, but admittedly it has no rhythm. So that didn't work out, which would be tough to rap with no rhythm. And then Amir dresses up as Nick,
Starting point is 00:27:21 which I thought Amir should have won. because I thought that was the funniest, especially. Do you think he bought that hat or do you think he stole it from Nick? I think he bought the hat. I do too. So he should win. He should definitely win because he put thought into it. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:27:32 There was a lot of efforts there. Between like him, Summer and Noel were about the 70s, they did the Flower Child. I think that was good. They both dressed up pretty well for that. Preston. Preston was great for the 90s. So between them and, yeah, obviously Amir gets, you know, the comic. The comic pass.
Starting point is 00:27:48 So that works. But yeah, I mean, the rest of them, you know, whatever. But they start to play a game. This is their first foray into games, I think. They did a couple last year, but I don't think that, what did they do? They truth or dare some shit. Yeah, they did some truth or dare stuff last year. They haven't had a, like, this is going to end poorly game yet.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And so when they started with this one, let's play Spill the Tea, I was like, oh, fuck, this isn't going to end well. And sure enough, it doesn't because they pull, who's the worst dressed here? And it wasn't even Summer's card. summer goes, ooh, definitely Shanice and like trails off a little bit. Which is interesting because Summer and Shanice are supposed to be really tight. Yep. So that was a dig at her.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And then she tries to backpedal immediately. And I think we're starting to see who Summer is. And this is a very definitive moment for me. It seems like kind of a whatever she just was being an asshole. But she seems to think one thing. She'll say it. And then she tries to reel it back in. She's like, oh shit,
Starting point is 00:28:47 I shouldn't have said that because immediately after that, she's like, but we're all like great dresser. We're all great dressers. We just like, who's the worst of the best, right guys? Right, everybody? Worst of the best. It's like, no, no, you took a dig at summer.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And now you feel bad because everyone else didn't react the way you wanted them to react. And now you're like, oh, shit. And I didn't react the way that you wanted them to react because it wasn't your card. It's not your question. It's not your turn or go. You're going to play the damn game. You're going to play the damn game. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Not only that, but Sheenis wasn't even in the room. No, she's making shots for everybody. So you don't, like, if somebody leaves the room and you're playing that, you know, is it reasonable or is it shady? Pretty much. That's pretty much what it was. If you're playing that sort of game, at least go after somebody who's in the room. Like, go after Nick. That would be funny.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Nick would freak out. He would have an absolute meltdown. He'd probably go downstairs, bring up all of his outfits, and show you all of them, and tell you how much he spent on each item. And that would be really funny to me. That would be a good way to play that. Don't go after somebody who's not in the room who doesn't even understand that you're playing a game at this point. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And it's even worse because Chenice takes offense. She goes upstairs, starts crying in the bathroom. Soft. She was a little lit too So I think that was part of it And this is their second season So look, they're going to have to get some tougher skin I agree with you, not the best reaction
Starting point is 00:29:57 She wasn't there for the whole time last year So maybe we'd give her a little bit We'll give her a rookie pass And like she'll toughen up as they go You gotta get thick skin in this game As we've seen But that comes with time It comes with time and practice
Starting point is 00:30:08 You know, you gotta be in the game for a little while But It gets deeper because We find out that Chenice lost her job After relocating to Tampa for her job And Summer knows that So it is a weird dig to take, knowing that financially she's not in the best spot. And as she says, like, I can't afford to buy clothes.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And Summer knows this and still threw me under the bus. And I think that Alex says it later a little bit where he's like, you know, I hadn't really pegged it before. But there is a slight mean girl energy from Summer. And I'm starting to see it, too, as we go. And it's like, I think she hides behind this, like, oh, I'm sweet and innocent kind of thing. But when she feels scorned or feels a certain way, she's mean. and I think that we see it with Alex I think that we see it here with
Starting point is 00:30:51 Sheenice and I don't know if she has a chip on her shoulder about Sheenis, I don't know if there's more there that we're not finding out I think the way she's handling Alex and Noel is bizarre Like she just seems to have different agendas than what she's actually putting out there She's on my radar as a potential villain I think we can put her on the radar I don't think this was that big of a deal to begin with I think it was just
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm reading between the lines Yeah you're definitely reading between the lines I think if we take it a face value it's just I mean let's be honest sheenice did have the worst outfit for decades night she didn't even know what she was doing so she could have spun it like that and been like oh i thought we were just talking about like what we're doing right now yeah spin it like that you know that's fine i i don't know if it was malicious it could have just been i think summer deep down is a little jealous because we find out a little
Starting point is 00:31:34 later that chenice has a roster and she's talking to these guys that she says that are really big and they're not nine to fivers which i took offense i was gonna say when she said that i was like damn i bet a lot of people like hey fuck you fuck you uh but she you know she's talking to a bunch of other guys and that's fine and summer's like how are you talking to these guys so i think there is a deeper rooted issue here maybe a little jealousy amongst friends yeah that's possible and she wanted to knock her down yeah i mean she's running upstairs and crying is it's a little funny it was very lit it's a very big overreaction but it wasn't really that big of a deal but yeah i think it's fair to say summer's on the radar we'll see if she's mean to anybody else who wants to
Starting point is 00:32:12 spurn her or maybe they have some words for her and she tries to retaliate in a different way i'll I'll tell you one thing, though, she is messy as hell. She is not very good at this. So we will know right away if she's trying to get some retribution some way, shape, or form moving forward. And it's not going to end up well for her unless she gets her shit together. Janice or Summer. Yeah, I think she's messy, too. You can play the game all you want.
Starting point is 00:32:33 It's fun. It works for TV. But if you're not good at it, you're going to screw yourself in the end. Yeah, but that's great TV. A messy player, a messy player is a lot of fun to watch because they get caught up in bullshit that they're not ready for. And when they get called out, it's like... that, oh, shit moment where you see them trying to just scrabble for an answer and they don't have one because they... And nobody's defending them.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Because they can't. Because they know that they're wrong. So I think that, you know, summer's playing a very dangerous game this summer. Hey, ooh. But moving on from there, this is when, you know, the night starts to get a little ramped up. Everyone's having a little fun. Everyone's a little bit lit. So they're starting to dance and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And this is the scene I was talking about. And I literally wrote down Nick smiling like he's at a strip club for the first time because he's, literally sitting there, just two asses here and here, and he's just like, if you're not on YouTube, you're missing out, because he's just grinning back and forth like a moron. Meanwhile, a mere Texas girlfriend, this is the biggest red flag. What did he text her, though? So I saw him walk into the room with the Chabani, like, flip yogurt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And I thought it was weird. I was like, oh, he's just having a snack right now? Like, all right, cool, whatever. Yogurt's not my favorite in the middle of me drinking all day, but sure. You know, I feel like that yogurt's going to curdle in your stomach with all the booze in there. That's neither here nor there. My man eats a Chabani and sits down and text his girlfriend. What should I eat now?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Dot, dot, dot, babe. Inocuous. Doesn't seem like a big deal. The response, I wrote down, run, bro. I literally wrote down run because her response is, huh? That's weird. It seems like that was meant for somebody else. Like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And that's the thing with the way that Amir is brought up his girlfriend every time. It's not in a way of like, I'm obsessed with this girl and I'm going to talk to you guys about her. and everything that I see reminds me of her, and I'm just going to talk about her, and you guys have to deal with it because I'm in love with my girlfriend. Yeah, that's not it. It is a, oh, my girlfriend would cut my dick off.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. Oh, would you imagine? Like, if any of these girls even look at me, she will come up here, she will castrate me, and then she will prance around the house and show everybody what she did. Yeah. That's what he said in the first episode.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I know. So if he keeps doing this, you're painting a picture of not a loving girlfriend, not, I mean, when Nick talks about Tasia, and Tasia defended him last year, you see that, and you're like, all right, you know, I think the two of them are fine. You see this and you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:48 dude, what are you doing? And then when she calls and goes through all of that, you're like, what the fuck? Like, clearly she feels some type of way. She's very insecure about him being up there with all these girls. And I don't know if it's, because Amir doesn't strike me as a guy
Starting point is 00:35:02 that's like cheating on her or anything. I don't think so at all. He's afraid to even look at a girl at this point and she has struck the fear of God in him. And this call was very uneasy. Very awkward. Dude, no. He's like, it just feels kind of.
Starting point is 00:35:14 of accusatory. It's not accusatory. It was. It was. That's exactly what it was. That's exactly what it was. And now, like... You guys eating Chobani flip right now. What should eat next? He's hungry, because he's got to go to the gym and get some gains tomorrow, dude. Like, you got to let him know. He's just asking you what to eat next. What do you think he should eat after that? After a yogurt and drinking? I don't know. A slice of pizza, you weirdo? Like, who the fuck eats yogurt when you're drunk? We've got to stay on theme if he gives Chibani after drinking. Granola? I was going to say a banana or something. Maybe like a protein bar? Yeah. I don't know. Something, fruit, maybe.
Starting point is 00:35:44 yeah some kind of fruit something yeah give him some sugar this is the important conversation but for me like the fact that he had to bring up to her like i removed myself from the situation like that's really not my scene babe like i don't want to be in there like looking at that meanwhile then he throws nick under the bus he's like yeah nick's in there like smiling like he's looking at everybody's butt i'm like you don't have to throw him under the bus to make yourself look good here here's my thing i respect that he has respect for his relationship And in that moment where they're all, you know, twerking, having fun, whatever, they're within their right to do that. It's the summer. They're having fun. They're at a house. They're not thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:36:23 If you're uncomfortable with that because you think your girl would be uncomfortable with it and you want to get up and go into the other room, go make a phone call, go do whatever, that's fine. I think that's nice and I think it shows respect to your girl. When you have to make a statement about it and call her and let her know that you are holier than now and you're not going to get caught up with this bullshit to me, that's simply for. won the camera, and this is where I said building the brand earlier, when you said nobody's doing that. I think Amir is. He's trying to come off as the nicest, nicest guy in the house with the utmost respect for women and everybody else, which is fine. But again, if that's you, you don't have to do it this way. I didn't care for the way that he went about it. I didn't care for the fact that regardless of how Nick is acting, it's not his business to throw Nick under the bus to his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:37:09 In that moment, just remove yourself. I don't think he was throwing Nick under the bus to build his brands. When I said build brands, I meant like... No, I don't think that was part of building his brand. What do you mean? That's what you just said. No, no, no. I think I didn't like that part of it. I think he's overall just trying to come off as I don't do anything wrong and I love my girlfriend. Yeah, and that's fine. That's not really what I was talking. What I was talking about with brands was making yourself more marketable to Bravo and other reality TV shows. Or like literally selling, you know, if you have a workout class at home, selling that. That's the agenda that I was
Starting point is 00:37:39 talking about. But this, I felt like, the only reason they threw Nick onto the bus was because he was scrambling because his girlfriend is calling him out for something that he didn't do. Yeah. And if you're not comfortable just looking, or I guess not looking at her, but talking to her and saying, hey, maybe they were a FaceTiming. And saying, hey, no, I grabbed a yogurt and walked away. I wasn't doing anything. I was just literally saying, what should I eat next? And you're going to do all of this. If you can't take me for what I'm telling you right now, then that's really the end of the conversation. You need to figure that out. Not I'm going to throw my friend under the bus to say, I'm a better boyfriend than he is. He's upstairs looking at butts. Yeah, okay. So that's just, it's an unhealthy relationship there. But I don't think he would have done that if she hadn't, you know, called him out for something that he didn't do and be accusatory. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And I think it's even more strange to me that the next morning, while he's standing in the kitchen, he's asking Shanice about her nudes. You can't claim that you're above all this bullshit and like remove yourself from the situation, which again, I have no issue with him removing himself. I think that was the respectful thing to do. I didn't like that he had to, like, highlight it. But you can't do that. And then the next day, the girl that was twerking in your face, you're asking her about the nudes that she sent to some dude. Because you're still getting involved.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Meanwhile, you're standing next to her shirtless asking about nudes. You're allowed to laugh at it. Right. Then when you start asking specifics. Yeah. And you had different nudes and different guys? Different roster or... And who'd you send the best nudes to?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah. And what did the nudes look like? Yeah. Paint me a picture. Please. Like, that's my point. Yeah. So it's a double-edged sword.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Like, you can't be both. And I think... Honestly, you would have imagined it would have been reversed. Right. When he was drinking, he would have done things like that. Now you're dead sober in the morning. Ask me about things. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Weird. That's my point. And like, my whole thing, what it boils down to is I think he's scared of his girlfriend. Yeah. I just think he's... He's definitely scared of his girlfriend. The way that he's talked about it, everything is fear-inducing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So I don't... It doesn't sound super healthy to me. But, you know, it's not for me to say. But we move on. Yes, it is. We have a podcast. It's a good point. There's something about him that doesn't seem genuine.
Starting point is 00:39:45 It seems disingenuous. Yeah, I think it's just the girlfriend's thing. Yeah, and I think so too. And I don't know. I think he'd be more fun without a girlfriend, but... Well, duh, yeah. That's just all. I mean, all we're getting from him is very, very polite conversations.
Starting point is 00:39:59 That's it. Or non-polate conversations and then throwing his friend under the bus and talking about his girlfriend cutting his dick off. Yeah. So, yeah, it would be more fun if he didn't have the girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But we get a scene with Jordan, and I thought this was a really cool scene, and we'd like to highlight this stuff when we see it. She's talking to her dad.
Starting point is 00:40:15 She gets a hair deal with a company that makes wigs and extensions and other hair products. And she starts talking about her journey with alopecia. And she said it really got exacerbated. She was doing some kind of ad for a company. They put something in her hair, and it reacted very poorly, and a lot of her hair fell out, never grew back the same way. and she even went as far to share pictures and show the battle that she's been going through, which I think is amazing because, you know, and I mean this in the most respectful way possible, like Jordan is a beautiful woman and for her to be able to speak out and say,
Starting point is 00:40:49 even I'm battling certain things that are very difficult. I think that's going to resonate with so many women. I think it's going to resonate with so many people that are going through this and that have to deal with alopecia. So I commend her immensely for sharing this battle on TV because these are the moments that it transcends reality. where it's transcending reality TV in which it can actually help people that watch the show. So Cadoos to Jordan.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I thought that this was a cool scene. We're using that word a lot more. I know. I know we are. But moving on from there, I already know which bus you'd be on, but we get the gym versus brunch crew. And first and foremost, I think for the next live show, we both have to dress like Nick and get whatever the fuck that tarp was that he was wearing.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah. I think we could pull it off, but... You do? Yeah, dude, for sure. Us? Art bros? Us? Hell, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Ridiculous. Yeah. He looked like a trash bag. Yeah. A red trash bag. It was raining. So what? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Wear a rain jacket. Nick's fucking hilarious. I don't like his... Everything he does is very funny to me, so I don't care. You know why it's funny? Because he doesn't see the irony in it. No, he's taking everything very seriously. Dead serious.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah. Like, he goes to the gym and, like, people laughing at his thing. In his head, he's like, you guys just don't get fashion. Like, I look fantastic, and you guys don't understand it. No, he looks like all of those Instagram ads that I get flooded with for athletic wear where you see the guide, you're like,
Starting point is 00:42:14 nobody would ever wear that. Yep. Nick wears it. Nick's the model in the picture. Quite possibly, but on the way to brunch, we have Jordan Preston in summer, and they're talking about Nick getting too handsy and a little too flirty when he's drunk. And they, which I appreciate,
Starting point is 00:42:31 do highlight the fact that, look, it's not creepy. It hasn't reached the level where we're uncomfortable necessarily as far as, like, we don't feel like he's being a sleaze ball about it. To them, and this is why I love this cast is they're able to think about things on a deeper level, like, emotionally. Because they're like, to me, this just screams that he doesn't want to be in a relationship with Tasia. And at the same time, we don't want to be in a position where Tasia feels like we're a party to disrespect. Yeah. Like, the fact that they can take it to a level and discuss it rather than just, you know, eviscerate Nick, which they have every right to if they felt the certain way.
Starting point is 00:43:03 but they take it a step further and they're talking like is even happy with her like do we even know how tasia feels about all of this so the one thing that they highlight which is important is this is similar to last season with nick and you know he was talking about jordan and his confessionals and we had some weird scenes there but again and we referenced it already when tasia came to the house they brought it up yeah tasia had no issues and didn't question nick at all yep so i don't know what their relationship i don't really know where to land. I don't know where their relationship is. I don't know what she's seen
Starting point is 00:43:37 or what's gone on, but she was able to watch last season and still be with him and not have any issues. So, I don't know. I have a relationship is obviously a little different. I will say, I mean, the way that this cast does this type of breakdown or this type of, you know, trying to diffuse
Starting point is 00:43:53 situations, they do it so much better than everybody else. Oh, yeah. Everybody else just and look, I, you know, from a TV standpoint, the other end of the spectrum is a lot more fun to watch sometimes. Sure. just blow off and one person just goes, and you can see it in Summerhouse a little bit later when we do our recap there.
Starting point is 00:44:09 People will just call another person out in front of the crew and make it very awkward and make them answer for it right then and there. We'll literally see that later, yes. And then it gets very awkward, and then fireworks transpire, and it's great. The way that they break it down, they try to see it from every angle, and then they figure out how to approach it.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And they say, all right, who feels weird about this? Why do you feel weird about it? What do we do about Nick? I don't know if you need to go as, far as to say like, oh, I don't think he's happy in his relationship because of the way that like he's flirting with other girls, he might just be doing that. I don't know if you have to bring the happiness of the relationship into question, but when Tasia comes and she defends him the whole time, I think that kind of puts it to bed. If you just address it with Nick, it'll probably
Starting point is 00:44:51 stop. So I think that's the best course of action. Now we see a little bit later. Obviously, Nick kind of takes it into his own hands when people are talking about it. So I just appreciate the whether they come at a different level rather than just kind of blowing it all up. And they're able to discuss it and, you know, kind of come to a solution. Yeah, I agree with that. But while they're a brunch, they are discussing like the Shanice thing and we got a quick cut over to the gym. And, you know, Shanice feels like she was bullied by Summer. That's when we find out where she's like, you know, I think Summer's just jealous of me because
Starting point is 00:45:21 I talked about my roster last year in Jamaica and she took, she acted weird about it. Like, how do you talk to these guys? But flip over to Summer when she's talking to Preston and Jasmine. she's blaming Shanice for not bringing it up to her that she was upset about certain things. Like, you can't do that. You can't be a dick and then blame the person that you were a dick to for not bringing it to your attention. Yeah, and I also don't understand it. When did you want her to do that?
Starting point is 00:45:45 I don't know. You called her out in front of a whole group and said that she's the worst dresser. She got upset and walked away. You didn't go after her. Nope. You didn't go upstairs and try to have a one-on-one conversation to find out why she felt that way. So then to turn it around and say, she needs to talk to you? about what she's uncomfortable about?
Starting point is 00:46:02 No. I don't really get it. I think that Summer has no idea what she did wrong and she's just grasping in straws. I do too. And I think that you see more of that and that's what I said earlier
Starting point is 00:46:10 is like I don't think that she plays the game or you said it earlier. Like she's sloppy. Yeah. He's very sloppy because now they start getting into the Alex stuff. Like, well,
Starting point is 00:46:20 how was sex with Alex? And she's like, oh, don't ask. Like pretty much saying it was terrible. Saying that he's a good kisser and a good cuddler. Flashback to last year she's talking about love
Starting point is 00:46:30 and love making and she wants to cuddle and wants it to be soft flashed to this season and it's the opposite. This is just a woman scorned that is now trying to put Alex and make it seem like she didn't give a shit and that was all casual and like she wasn't looking for more
Starting point is 00:46:45 and I think maybe she's trying to save face which I can appreciate that a little bit. She doesn't be embarrassed by Alex on TV. Okay, I get that. But at the same time, it's like last episode, one day ago, this was a very different narrative. You said, to Alex's face after you're inside somebody,
Starting point is 00:47:04 because we have to reference that every time, there's a certain level of love there. That's a very different story than not. He said it was casual. I knew it was casual. I didn't expect anything out of it. He didn't expect anything out of it. There was no expectations.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah. That's not what happened. And just the way that Alex operates, we're never going to get anything out of him. No, because it flashes to him. I'm not going to, unless he's straight up defending himself because somebody said something about him, he's not going to go into it.
Starting point is 00:47:29 We get Summer in a confessional. We get Summer when she's talking to other people. Her story has changed four or five different times because she's the one who's talking about it. And she's the one who's actually answering questions. You got Alex and it's like, I'm not going to talk about that. Nope. I'm going to keep a very tight lid on that. I'm not going to discuss any of that.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And all he talks about is the picture. So I think there's probably a little bit more here. There's more to the story. There's more to both ends of it. Summer's not doing a very good job articulating exactly what that is. And by very good job, I mean, no job at all. She's not doing anything. and Alex isn't giving us any information
Starting point is 00:47:59 so we have nothing to go off of but looking at it right now Alex looks like the one who was not scorned he looks like someone who yeah we can break it down and say maybe he let her on or did this and that and whatever summer's immediately out the door when she starts talking about how she knows
Starting point is 00:48:14 that he only wanted something casual so you're not doing yourself any favors and you continue to talk about it which is making it even more confusing for us so I don't know what the fuck's going on here I don't think we're ever going to know what the hell's going on here I kind of just want to move on I think she fell in love with Alex, and Alex wasn't in love with her, and now she's trying to backpedal to save face.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I think probably. Yeah. But if we're not going to get anything, producers, if you're listening, can we just move on? It's too late. It's already been filmed. Yeah, I know, but you can edit it. They've already edited it. If they're listening, edit it again.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Go shit back a week. I don't have a shit. Just get rid of it all. I don't care anymore because we're not going to get anything from it. Well, we do get one thing from it, and that's, you know, Noel and Summer have been friends, and Noel coming into the summer, said to Summer, said to Summer, that's the summer. It's going to get confusing, that she had, you know, not a thing, but she was attracted to Alex, that she would be into seeing where something would go with Alex. And Summer's response was, we just hung out.
Starting point is 00:49:07 We hung out in L.A., we hung out in New York. That was it. It was just a hangout. Noel's upset because she feels lied to, which she was lied to, because if you're tight with somebody and you want to go after a dude, at the very least you can say, in your words, he was inside me, that at least, like, paints a picture so that no. is going like blindsided and at the same time this will 100% cause an issue
Starting point is 00:49:32 there's no fucking way the way that Summer has handled the first two days of being in this house that she's not going to feel a type of way if Noel ends up hooking up with Alex I do think we're going to see that. I don't think we're going to see that I don't think they're going to hook up now. Why? Just based off of clips from the future
Starting point is 00:49:48 okay but it seems like Noel kind of pushes towards them maybe has a conversation I don't think Alex is going to do it Alex for everything that he is he's not that messy he doesn't like to be messy because he likes to keep his side of the street yeah i think it's going to be more of an issue when maybe he's flirting a little bit with noel and then he hooks up outside of the group and then all of a sudden it's a big issue and then summer gets brought back into it but i do i don't know how the hell noel missed that she was sitting right across the table that was the big moment of the dinner from the first night and you were
Starting point is 00:50:17 cracking some crab legs i guess and you just completely missed it and it was genuine too because they go back and i was like oh yeah she kind of reacted to it maybe she just didn't want to say anything and she was dumbfounded when she brought it up at the gym yep she had no idea what the hell was going on and that was really funny too i would have liked it a little bit more if she had reacted then that first night and then went after summer for lying to her and brought everybody in and then everybody's like what the fuck's going on here in a perfect world yeah in a perfect world that would have been great but no hope wasn't paying attention no but the last scene is the dudes hanging out in the dude cave and this is the first time that you see a little
Starting point is 00:50:52 bit of a crack in the armor for a mirror because he's like, look, I'm in a weird spot because I want to be able to engage with my friends, but if I told her, her being Natalie's girlfriend, she would kill me, more or less. I think she said strangle him or some kind of physical something not good. And Nick, fucking Nick, he's like, just do what I do. Just sit there and every guy in the room laughs. Like, that's what you think you do. And Nick actually seems taken aback Where he's like, whoa, whoa, what? Like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:51:28 And Preston starts talking. He just doesn't realize that he's doing it, yeah. It doesn't at all. And I actually believe that. And, you know, Preston lets him down lightly. He goes, it's not sleazy, but it could definitely be interpreted as flirty. And he takes it a step further and says, you know, you're probably going to have a discussion with both Jordan and Summer.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I think they're both going to say something to you. So he gives him a heads up. And Nick's, like, perplexed. His words in his confession. He's like, I'm perplexed. Like, I never thought that I went too far and, you know, I hang out with him all the time. So I actually do appreciate the fact that he just tackles it head on and goes straight upstairs and knocks on Summer's door to just ask her, like, straight up. Because not a lot of guys would do that.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I don't think. That was actually a good move on his part. And you can tell he's actually uncomfortable. He's like doing like circles in Summer's room. He's like, I'm just going to, I'm just going to ask. Yeah, he's distraught. Yeah, I think he's really upset about this. And, you know, I don't really have a lot of sympathy because you're the one doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:21 but the fact that you can at least face it and hopefully rectify the situation does speak volumes if that's what you're going to do but he asked summer like flat out he's like do i make you uncomfortable and she says you do get hansy and then end the episode so i'm curious to see how that conversation goes again the vibe that we saw in the car with jordan and summer both when they were with preston it's not that they're like appalled at nick they're not grossed out by nick they're not like get the fuck away from me but it is something that needs to be addressed. So hopefully this is a learning moment for Nick
Starting point is 00:52:55 because Nick's funny. Like he's a good character on this show. It's a good cast member. So I hope that it doesn't go south. Yeah, I hope it doesn't impact the way that he is in the house aside from obviously being handy. You can drop that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You get rid of that and you do everything else that you've been doing. You're great. You're fine. Yeah. And like not even, honestly, even sitting on the couch and just looking at butts while they're twerking in front of you,
Starting point is 00:53:16 that's still funny. It was a really funny moment. It was a funny scene. I don't want him to be like, oh, girls are in that room i gotta be over here with the boys like it don't start doing that shit don't over correct but you know stop touching people stop touching people oh you know what follow their lead whatever they tell you just take it to heart and apply it so if they say don't do x y and z don't
Starting point is 00:53:35 fucking do x y and z but go about and have a good summer but it'll be interesting to see how that all shakes out but here the most popular fiction podcast of all time which the new york times described as what might occur if David Lynch was a producer at your local radio station. Welcome to Night Vale is a twice-monthly update from a small desert town, where the paranormal is real. Every conspiracy theory is true. We all have to get on with our lives anyway. Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amy Nicholson, the film critic for the LA Times. And I'm Paul Shear, an actor, writer, and director. You might know me from The League, Veep, or non-eligible for Academy Award role in Twisters.
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Starting point is 00:55:06 Listen to vulgar history wherever you get podcasts. All in all, like what this episode did for me, I've got a lot of question marks, like good question marks. I'm just like, oh, I'm curious where this is going to go. I'm curious where that. That's going to go. I can't wait until Amir's girlfriend comes up. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I think that's the best part, I think, and they're going to get into, it looks like next week or the week after, bringing other people into the house. So some people who were there, you know, popped by last year, some people that they might know back from the city. And then obviously you have to throw in the girlfriends and you've got the boyfriend coming from Germany at the end of the year or the end of the week. I think Preston's boyfriend is coming next week. So you've got to start worrying about, and you don't have Silas this year.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Thank God. We don't have Silas to put all this together. God forbid the skis. Schedule's fucking overlap. Schedule's fucked. Schedule's absolutely fucked. Actually, let's FaceTime him right now and we'll figure out who can come when. That's what they should be doing.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Jasmine, get him on the horn. That's what we're going to start doing. Call his CO. But that's what it gets messy is you're going to have all these people up here. Like Amir's girlfriend's going to come up and she is going to be so standoffish and she is going to sit there with a knife in her hand staring at Amir while he's talking to anyone. She's going to have his balls in her hand. She's going to walk around. She's going to tie a little string around it and walk him around the house.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Like, that's what we're going to see from that. Preston's boyfriend seems awesome. I think he's going to fit in with the group really well. Obviously, we already know what what's his face brings to the... Simon. I'm so fucking excited for Simon. That's going to be electric because he's going to do the same shit that he did last year. I'm just here to have fun.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Fuck your dog. And be unapologetic, yeah. And Brie is going to go cry in a corner and he's not going to care. And that's going to be great. So once you start bringing other people in the house, that's when it gets really messy. And they're already, you know... You're teetering. Teetering as it is.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You throw in another person. God forbid you throw in a single girl, and Alex starts perking his ears up, like, oh, what's going on here? It's going to get great. So I'm excited for the rest of the season. I've been excited the whole season, and I'm ready to roll. Yeah, so if you're listening to this and you haven't watched because a few of you have commented, haven't watched yet listening to the recaps, love the recaps, go watch.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'm telling you, this is a good show, and we do not want a real girlfriends in Paris scenario here, which maybe that's coming back. We don't know what happened with that show. We have no idea what's going on. But that was a good show, and it's now off the air, potentially. Don't let Martha's Vineyard die. It is a great fucking show. So get out there and get out there.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah, go outside and watch if it's on your phone. Just watch the damn show. Now let's do some questions. Shooter still the question master, as my iPad is still at hopefully at the Philadelphia airport. Hopefully. We'll find out eventually. First up, we've got from exactly with Zach in the middle. Good name.
Starting point is 00:57:45 why is Jordan acting quote unquote better than rather than just talking to Jasmine I think that she's scorned from last year and Jordan strikes me as a person that once she feels a certain way like she pushes away I don't think that it's better than I think she creates a very large gap between people that she's not viving with and getting back over that hump is not an easy process for her whether that's because of past experiences or something I don't know I don't get the vibe that it's better than I got my more of the vibe that she doesn't, when she doesn't fuck with you, it takes a lot to get back in her good graces.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah, I think so too. And obviously, I like this Jasmine way better than last season and the Silas of it all helps a lot. But Jasmine on her own was really annoying last year, too. I even take out the screaming sex that she was having. She was just kind of annoying and she was always making excuses for Silas. This year, she's kind of just pushed into the back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:39 She's back there with like Brea, I would say, where it's like, yeah, you're not doing a whole lot here, but you're still showing up and having some conversations. If we don't push this too much, I'm better with that than I was last year. I don't think, and I agree, I don't think that she's doing this whole better-than bullshit. I think that she just sees Jasmine for who she is. And we talked about it last week. Jasmine is not addressing the elephant in the room. She needs to take accountability.
Starting point is 00:58:59 She is way different with stylus and versus without him. She was way different before him. So address that, and you'll probably come back in Jordan's good graces. Until you do that, she doesn't really have to have the time for you. J.D. Casey, 2026, what's going to happen in 2020? what I don't know it's the username that's the question no no I'm asking I don't fucking know I don't know what that's the question what are you doing I got stuck do you think this show will have a great sophomore season just like Soho I think that
Starting point is 00:59:33 this show is comparable if not arguably better than Soho I don't know I mean at Soho had such a great second season did it had a great second second i don't know it's slightly better than martha's vineyard i would say but i i think that we are primed for a really good season i do too and so i'll go with the uh the martha's vineyard approach what's it's the worst of the best there we go yeah i think that they're they're geared up for a phenomenal season yeah i really do all right um from sarah juliana do you think producers were relieved that silas was called overseas yeah yes i think it saved the show i think another run through with Silas would have been disastrous.
Starting point is 01:00:16 He was good for season one because he didn't know anybody yet and it was just a different aspect to the show but continued Silas would have been a fucking nightmare. So yeah, I'm sure they're thrilled. Yeah, I'm sure they're very ecstatic about that. Two more here.
Starting point is 01:00:33 One from Lance DeVore. Did Alex seem embarrassed by his hookup with Summer? I don't know if he's embarrassed because it was Summer. I just don't think he likes other potential hookups to know about his hookups. Yeah, I don't think he likes dipping his pen
Starting point is 01:00:49 in the company, if you will. That's his own doing, though. You don't hook up with somebody that you're on the show with. Like the shit where you eat thing, yeah, I mean, I get it. But, like, yeah, I think two things can be true, yeah. I think the biggest part is, like, he's a fuck boy, and fuck boys tend to not like their dirty laundry
Starting point is 01:01:05 out there. Yeah, fair. Last one here from L. Reins. This is more of a general question. How do you guys manage watching all the Bravo shows, And sports. We're tired all the time. Hired all the time. Literally all the time.
Starting point is 01:01:18 You don't know how much we sacrifice to talk to you every week, and we wouldn't change it for the goddamn world. We certainly would not, but also we try to keep most of the sports on weekends. Yeah, but we are seepy, boys. Very sepid. That's all I got. You got anything? I don't like when you do that.
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