Bros & Shows - Is It Too Late Now To Say Sorry? (RHOBH Full Review)

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

What's up Bro's? We are back with RHOBH and the season is starting to wrap up. We've hit somewhat of a lull with the drama but overall we've enjoyed this season. In this episode, Sutton seems much lighter after leaving a lot of emotional baggage back in Spain. Kyle and Mauricio finally sit down and have a chat... it was awkward to say the least. Erika Jayne still feels as though apologies are owed to her in regard to the earrings/ lawsuits from last year. Some of the women agree, some do not. Annemarie attempts to "smooth things over" with Crystal but neither party seemed all that genuine when they agree to disagree. PK and Dorit seem to still be having communication issues as he is going on day 12 of a trip to London and foregoing Mother's Day because "they don't celebrate it in London". Nice work PK... Time Stamps: Intro (0-8:39) RHOBH (8:40) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, SteelRoy. Russell, joined as always by the one and only Rootin' Tootin' Shootin' McGutin. What's up, dude? Not a whole lot. Eager to talk about Beverly Hills with everybody.

And it got me thinking tonight. We went through this episode, and we're going to talk about the full episode. But I want to make a pit stop. Okay. No, Anna Marie has the Diamond's brunch, whatever you want to call it, the Mother's Day. They always have that in these shows where you know you come in and you get to spend some money on jewelry, but you go to the party and all together. I think we should do something like that, don't you think so?

You want to have, like, a shopping party? Yeah, but it's like ProV Bros merch. And I think I figured out the best way to do this. You are so confused, but this is great. I think we should do this at a live show. Are you just talking about selling merch? Yeah. Oh, we can do that.

You're a fucking t-shirt. I'm trying to cold open into announcing a new show. Oh. You idiot. Oh, yep, that went right over my head. Yeah. I was thinking. Maybe Friday, May 3rd.

D.C. In the D.C. area? The, what do you call it? The Mid-Atlantic? The Potomac, if you will. Oh, yeah, Potomac. Oh, yeah, that's show. You call Potomac.

How about that? Yeah, look, we don't need to get into that. But yes, we do have a new live show coming out. As promised, we got multiple dates for all you. So this is why we told you to pay attention. So let's go through the list real quick. You ready? You want to start chronologically?

We got March 6th, Philly. Yep. Oh, fuck. May 3rd, D.C. It's at the union stage in D.C. Oh, yeah, we got to finish the next. Friday, May 3rd, and Boston. Boston.

Friday, June 14th at our favorite city winery. City winery and Boston. So that's the lineup that we have for you all. We told you to pay attention. We told you to keep your eyes to the Instagram. You said nose to the grindstone, but yep. And ears to the wind, I believe. And ears to the wind.

No, I said keep your attention to the wind. Yeah, you should pay attention to the winds. That's how tornadoes sneak up on you. Very true. But we have a lot of live shows coming up. So the links will be in our bio to purchase tickets. Make sure you get them sooner than later because we don't want you to miss out on these shows. Philly, March 6, City Winery, Union Stage in D.C.

May 3rd. And then we've got in June, June 14th, Boston City Winery as well. Yep. And that's a Friday night. And so is D.C. They're both Friday nights. Yeah. We've moved to Friday nights because we've moved to Friday nights because we've

don't want to give anyone any excuse to not go. Yeah, we're tired of people saying, it's a Wednesday. I've got to work. Oh, I can't come from the office. I've got to put my kids to bed. Come on. Let somebody else put your kids to bed, babysitter. Get somebody from off the street. Don't do that. Don't do that.

No, all right, don't do that. But, yeah, those two, the last two, D.C. and Boston, they go on sale today. I know D.C. goes on sale at noon. So if you're a morning listener, just wait a couple of hours. But you can go ahead and get your tickets around noon. and Boston should be on sale while you're listening to this at that time. Yeah, so go get those tickets and come hang out with your bros, bro. Bros, bro.

Yeah, but as Shooter said, it is a Beverly Hills episode today. So it's also a Rose and Thorn episode. So let's dive into a little Rose and Thorn before we kick off this bad boy. I'll start us off because I found one that I am confused by. Okay, love that. And not, I didn't even take it poorly, because it's so wrong. Like, I just don't think these people know us

or listen to us enough to, like, gauge us. But I'll let you be the judge. And this comes from Apple to a one-star review and says, I don't know why they watch Bravo when they so clearly hate women. And it goes like this. Tired of them criticizing women for expressing emotion and standing up for themselves.

Bravo makes content about women their lives and relationships. These guys criticize women for having feelings unless they deem the woman worthy of having them or if they're justified. Emotions and women don't work that way. This is a sports cast about Bravo. Misses the point.

They said they are the straight Ben and Ronnie. That couldn't be further from the truth. Those guys are funny and root for women. So I want to break this down. We don't hate women. I think that's pretty clear. Pretty clear that we are relatively objective about all of these shows. We comment on the men, the women, and all of the drama in between.

But what stuck out to me was they said they're the straight Ben and Ronnie, because we've gone over this a few times. So we never said that. We said people in our comments have said this about us. We are not saying we are the straight Ben and Ronnie. But you know where that takes me? What? This commenter was definitely a Crappens fan and heard this and went on that Reddit page.

Oh, yeah. About us. And then they came to our page to comment. Kind of brought everything together and just decided to do that on a review. I'm going to go ahead and leave a one star just to, you know, fire these guys up. But hey, I don't think you're right. And it made me giggle. So thank you.

And here's my rose. And it is very pertinent because of our announcement. And this is from MBJ-1311. It says, love my bros, five stars. You all are the best. I look forward to listening to their bros every week for all things. Bravo. Steel and shoot are incredible.

And I appreciate their perspectives, humor, and ability to make me smile and laugh even when I've had a long day. Please come to D.C. next. We love you. We are. Your favorite teacher, Mary Beth. We'll see it in D.C., Marybeth. This is the only reason we're going because of your review.

Just because of you. You did it. No other reason. You are our favorite teacher, and we love you. Honestly, if you look back at our poll, we didn't even have D.C. As the four cities listed. No, we didn't. And we're going there for Marybeth.

Yep, because you left this review, we're like, you know what, Mary Beth? Our favorite teacher? We're coming to D.C. Oh, yeah. Love that. I'm going to start off with my rose because I want to keep the good moves. Oh, my God. The good.

Good, good emotions going. Good moves. Good moves. Good moves. Yeah. This comes from Keisha. Housewife fan, of course. Shout out, Dev.

It's titled, Newby. I love you guys. I'm obviously a Bravo fan. I love this podcast so much. You guys actually take the time to recap more than three things per episode. Don't cut each other off and have mutual respect in your opinions. I don't know about that. Sometimes.

As much, yeah. Usually. Switching over from two T's in a pod for that reason. Hell, yeah. That is why I wanted to read that because fuck yeah. Love to hear that. Let's keep doing that. All day.

All day. Absolutely all day. And my, it's not really a thorn. It's just something that I think is kind of funny. We had a comment on YouTube over our VPR, over the VPR recap from Your Mama's Mama's Mama, Happy Singles Awareness Day on Valentine's Day. Oh, okay. Come on, you know. Look. Valentine's Day is already kind of a hallmark holiday. It is not kind of a hall. It is a hallmark holiday.

I was just treading carefully in case I get to hate because I was hating on Valentine's. Day, but whatever. As the single guy, and how do you feel about Valentine's Day? I don't really care. Valentine's Day? No, I just don't care. It's just whatever. So having a happy singles awareness day, those, and look, if it's a reason for you to go

hang out with your friends, but when you're all single and you all go out on Valentine's Day together and make a whole day of it, that actually bothers me. Like, I don't care about the coupley pictures and like, oh, I'm so thankful for you. I don't really care for the huge paragraphs that are like, let me try to make this short. And then they have 15 paragraphs about, like, why they love them. of their wife. It's like, okay. Like, you know, you love your wife, great. It's awesome. Tell her that. Don't put it on Instagram. You're just seeking. Anyway, I have a problem with all the singles going out, like whether it's guys or girls going out all together to say, hey, we're all

single. We deserve a day too. No. No. You don't. You don't. Every day is your day because you're single. It's solo your day. Anyway, so that, yeah, that's one thing I wanted to point out, but not really a thorn, just something I want to talk about. That's actually an interesting point. And I, Look, I get that it could be annoying that a holiday about love, you know. Yeah, but self-love should happen every day, you know? Wow, way to spin it. It's healthy. That is healthy.

And that's your psychology from Shooter today. We ought to. And definitely doesn't have a double meaning. I think it does. But that takes us on to Beverly Hills. And, you know, we've reached that point in the season. And this is why we've said in the past, Beverly Hills tends to run too long. It tends to be too many episodes.

This one was a little slower for me. Last week was a little slower. It's just, it hits that point where you kind of run out of shit to talk about, especially when only a few of these women are being forthcoming about shit going on in their lives. It's a fair point. However, next week is the season finale, and we're only at episode 16. So it's really not as long as it usually is. It's not the 23 episodes that we have last year, but it's still, I feel like...

I actually disagree. I don't think it's really dragging on. I actually rather enjoyed this episode now from a content. perspective for what we have to talk about, there's not a lot there to talk about because the people on the show aren't expressing their feelings or talking about things that we want to know about. They're just kind of going around and hanging out with each other for the most part and just recapping a trip that we just watched. That when we talked to Zach last week, we noted there was a lot missing from that because there really wasn't anything happening. This is just

it's either a group of women that don't really care for each other. So they're just kind of like platonically walking around a city or, you know, we've already seen. seen everything else and it just kind of keeps building and building and building. But I don't think from an entertainment standpoint, it's that bad. It's still fun to watch. Yeah, it's not like I'm sitting there, like, wanting to pull my hair out. Yeah, it's not the O.C. It's not. Yeah, I can watch it. And like, yeah, I'm entertained. And yes, I love all these ladies

for the most part on the screen. So, like, I'm enjoying watching them. It's more so, like, yeah, it's just kind of a ho-hum every day, whatever. And I feel like they're trying to lead to the finale where there's going to be some kind of resolve. amongst the shit that's going on in the group. I think that's what they're attempting to... But I don't think that's possible because we know that Annamoree and Crystal are still feuding to this day. We know that Kyle and Moe are still in the outs.

We know that Doreet and P.K. Are still having shit going on in their marriage. So all of the stuff that we kind of highlighted this season, we are very aware that we're not going to bridge this gap. So I think it's an interesting choice by production to frame it like, oh, Anna Marie and Crystal are talking. And we got Mo and Kyle with their scene where they were not connecting whatsoever. And then we got P.K. and Doreet talking on the phone.

And P.K., guess what? Still in London. So nothing has changed over the course of 16 episodes. There is no resolve. And I think that they should have leaned more into the chaos versus trying to tie a bow on it neatly. Yeah, I don't really know what they're trying to do. I don't even know if they're trying to tie a bow on anything neatly. I think what we're seeing is just the normal discourse of how these shows or seasons rather go.

where, yeah, of course, we're going to see Anne-Marie and Crystal sit down together and, quote, unquote, apologize to each other and say, you know, they both had said things that they need to take back. I think more so, you know, we get a nice bow on maybe Erica's feelings today. Yeah. Something to speak for, but we know, like you said, in this day and age with social media, and I just don't know how they navigate something like this, because you can have people sign like an NDA or try to keep it under wraps as much as possible. like they did with Salt Lake. But when it comes to people's marriages falling apart, everybody knows what's going on. That and also, when you're dealing with the Beverly Hills cast,

like these are very prominent figures. Like, we know these women. These women are, a few of these women are famous beyond Bravo. Exactly. So they're celebrities. They're actual celebrities versus like the Bravo Leopardy title, not to knock Bravo Lebs, we love you.

But these are like, you know, Kyle Richards is in movies. Erica Jane may not have been as famous without all the shit going on with Tom. I think that kind of launched her to a different level where more people are aware of who she is. Crystal's married to Rob, so like the Lion King aspect of it all, not that that's all she has. I'm just saying, like, that's pushing her to a different level. When you look at the different women, like, yes, they are prominent figures. So you're going to find out about their shit because the paparazzi, and it's also in L.A., right?

So you're going to be more access to them. It's not Salt Lake where there's no paparazzi. Yeah, I think it's more that, like, yes, we know where the two marriages that, are in turmoil right now on the show are still in turmoil and there's no real clarity as to what exactly is going to happen there. The Crystal and Amory thing, we've been over it for so long and it's just like if that's all you have going on for you right now in the aspect of entertainment value for the show. We talked about this with Zach last week. Sutton's the only one who's consistently showing up every week. Yeah, she's going to work. She's going to work. Everything

everything that she's doing is fun. Like, she sits down with Kyle and we'll get into the episode in a second and talks to Kyle for a little while. Like, without that scene, we don't get a whole lot from Kyle. Like, yeah, her and Mo talk, but then that's just another awkward conversation. We didn't get anything from that. It's the same as the car ride we saw. It's the same as every conversation. Sutton is having fun.

Like, she shows up at the Mother's Day brunch drunk. Barely. She's a little lit. Tipsy, but, like, having a good time. Yeah, I hated that. And she does get drunk, which is true, which is great. Yeah, and like, love that. I get drunk all the time.

Well, let's, let's say, let's get into it. Let's get into. We start out with Erica Jane, and she's talking with Dr. Jen and her bounce back and how she's feeling like she's back on her own two feet, which is great to see. She's been through a lot of shit. She had to get a lot of criticism, ourselves included. We were critical of her. And look, she keeps winning in court.

It seems like she's getting fully vindicated every step that she takes. So it is nice to see her back on her feet. But she brings up again the fact that she's still upset that she didn't get any apologies. And at least in this moment, I can understand a little bit. bit more of where she's coming from i don't necessarily agree with it but it has to do more so with closure it's not so much just the apology i think it's just being able to like wrap this up and move past it right and she needs acknowledgement in some way shape or form from the group that when this was all going down nobody had her back what's the word uh unconditionally right right it was everyone

even kyle and duret they still had questions they were still unsure so nobody was unconditional like, hey, you're my friend, I got your back. I believe you no matter what. I don't have any more questions for you. And I would argue that a real friend doesn't do that anyway. A real friend is going to question you and get to the bottom of it and then support you along the way. But regardless, I think that it was more a closure issue than strictly just needing the apology. Yeah, and I'm okay with this because this is a different aspect than we're used to seeing when it comes to Erica, because in the past, we would have seen her be furious about something like that and not go to a therapist to talk about it, but would sit down with somebody like

Lisa Rina, who's just going to completely gaslight you the entire time and tell you that you are completely right. And I was the first person to apologize to you. So everybody else should be under scrutiny at this point. And that would just add fuel to the fire when it comes to Erica. Instead, we're seeing her take the productive route and sit down with her therapist to explain her feelings, which I'm okay with because you know what? Erica has gained the viewer's trust, I feel like, this season. That's a good way. So we haven't been harping on her, as we normally would have maybe last year, where

if she showed up in Spain and started talking about all of these things going on and out of like left field, we would have been like, all right, dude, like enough. Like, we don't understand this. Now we're giving her a little bit of grace. So her sitting down with her therapist, I think, is another step forward. Because let's face it, episode one, she didn't even know what empathy was. You know to have somebody teach that to her. So she's come a long way in 16 episodes.

She's come a very long way. and I was the one that said Erica Jane, come back here, you laughed at me. Are you going to say it every episode? Every single time, because I need to take credit where credits do, because you're not giving it to me. So I'm going to announce it, yes. But no, you're right. You give me credit for Erica and Sutton being friends?

I did. I always give you credit. They're getting closer and closer every year. I love to see it. Be besties. That's fine. Live together. Great.

I have nothing against that friendship. I said I would be shocked to see it. I didn't. You know what? I'm not doing it. Moving on from there, we get Sutton with San Francisco. Santos, and she's riding him for the first time. And I had a big problem with this little snarky comment from Kyle, where she's like, as Sutton wrote a horse before, she didn't look like erratic on the horse.

Like, that's, I have no idea how you ride a horse. I don't think it was a, I'm walking up and watching her ride a horse and saying, oh, my God, she looks terrible. Has she written a horse before? She said she said she looks like she did on the bull at the bar. Oh, yeah, fair enough. And I, look, it's just. I'm still focused on it. First off, we got an Avi sighting, which we always said.

fucking love. I love. He's the best. He shows up with those carrots and Santos just rips one out of the basket. I have obvious number. Abi was in this episode a lot. I thought Avi should be more. I agree. He's the best. But yeah, now that you say it like that, yeah, it's a snarky comment, but that's, that's Kyle and Sutton's friendship. But I guess that's why it, like, it's not a big deal. It's not a sticking point for any means. It's just more, I was like, damn it, like, just this is my point with like that relationship. Like you just said, just don't be mean. But we're getting something else. out of it because when they sit down and start

talking, that was a very personal conversation. It was. It was a good conversation. Which we haven't seen Kyle have that personal of a conversation with anybody else on the show this season. No, but that's also, you could argue, because Sutton is pushing the narrative and trying to get it out of her, but also connecting with her. Whereas when we see Derreet try to force the conversation,

it seems just that. It's very forced. So we do get this conversation between the two of them and Kyle's a little bit more open. And I feel like she wanted to talk about it almost because she brings up therapy to Sutton. Did you guys ever go to therapy in regards to Christian?

And she's like, no, we never got to that point because as we know, like he, when they got separated, it's not funny, it's mean, but they got separated and she thought they were going to work it out. And I think like the same day they got separated, she got served papers for the divorce. So they never got to the therapy part. But then Kyle immediately says, well, Mo and I are in therapy. So to me, that's almost like she's reaching out a little bit. That's her way of being like, hey, I do want to talk a little.

And I don't know if it's because it's getting to the point now where she needs to talk. I don't know if it's because it's later in the season and she knows she has to, like, talk about this at some point. I'm not sure what the motive is. I'm curious, when the fuck did they pick up cameras? Like, are we, I think all we're going to get is. I think all we're going to get because they did tease that scene where Mo and Kyle sit down with their kids and talk about it. That's got to be. And that has to be the very, very, very end of the next episode, which is the finale.

and I think that's all we're really going to get is just them because when it comes down to something like that at least for these shows if we're getting cameras picked up and it doesn't really impact the whole cast they're not really going to make the whole cast go up and continue to film like this whole the brunch thing with at Anna Marie's

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and this is going to do this and that and whatever yeah so i really do think that the end of next episode is just going to be like the last 15 minutes just an uncomfortable conversation with kyle and mow that picking up the cameras that's them picking up the cameras yeah i feel like that happens every time but to answer your question i do think that yeah i think she's feeling a little bit of pressure of the show and not talking about what's going on because we get that scene coupled with her and Mo a little bit later. Which is a very different conversation. But that feels forced as well

to be in front of the camera. So yeah, I think it's, yeah, she probably identifies a little bit in Sutton thinking you've gone through a divorce. And they are friends at the end of the day. It's a weird friendship that we always comment on, but they are friends at the end of the day.

So I don't want to nitpick it just because I'm happy that Kyle at least talk to somebody about it because we haven't gotten anything this season. I'm really, that wasn't me nitpicking. I was curious about the motive, but I was going to follow it up with, regardless of the motive, it was nice to hear an actual conversation because they do draw a lot of parallels to one another. Because when Sutton's talking about it, she's saying a lot of the same things that Kyle, when Kyle's saying, you know, I missed my independence, I missed this, I missed that.

Sutton's like, yes, yes, yes, I know that feeling. And she highlights, you know, you guys are both growing. Kyle's going this way, Mo's going this way, the agency is blowing up. He's got almost 500 offices or 500 employees and 100 offices. Oh, yeah, that was it. He's opening up. He'll have 100 offices by like next week. So I guess he hasn't now.

With 500 plus employees, it's a massive real estate company. They do like $40 billion in business every year. So he's doing that. Kyle has gotten back into the movie industry. She's producing. She's acting. She's doing her own thing. And she says, I lost my independence for so long.

And that's kind of the theme of this episode between her and Sutton. I guess the theme of the season, honestly. But she lost her independence and is finding her footing again and getting some of that independence back. And I think that it's easy to, like, misconstrue because she's so, like, dead set on it. And I think that she gets a bad rap sometimes

because of how it was handled via Morgan Wade and the media and all of that. But when you peel back the layers of and look at this from just a marriage standpoint, She was the one making sacrifices for so long for Mo to blow up the agency and get big in his jobs. And she was home with the kids, stepped out in her own career, all of these different things. And I think that Kyle's been tough a lot this season, but I think that it is valid to say in this moment in her life. She's reached a point where she wants to have her own thing.

And I think it's sad, but I think it might be true. And they may have just grown in different directions. What they both want may not be the same thing anymore. more. And I think you couple that with all of these rumors, all of the tension that the cheating rumors have caused over the years because the way that they interact with one another, it just appears to me that there's more there. And we'll get into that when we talk about the Kyle and Mo scene. Yeah. Yeah. I would say it does seem like they've grown more so out of what they want from each other, where Mo just wants Kyle to be happy to be home that he's providing and he's out

doing all of these things. And that's not what Kyle wants to do. and Kyle wants Mo to maybe cut back on work a little bit and be home more often and he can't do that. So it's just not feasible for either of them to be in the role that the other one wants. And that's okay. You can put the cheating rumors and everything else aside because obviously that has a role to play in it.

But if we're looking at that in a nutshell, that's really what the relationship is. And I'm sure that's, you know, a lot of marriages go through that. Yeah. And, you know, I guess we'll see what happens. It's not on TV. Right. And, you know, billionaires. But anyway, we move on

and we get Garcel with their boys and they're doing a cyber bullying campaign with like cyber smile or something like that. And there's not much here to this scene. All I got to say is this relationship between her and Jade is very interesting. I can't put a finger on it. Like I don't understand it because he pretty much tells her like, you have not been a good mom. She's like, you know, I'm trying to do better. of your freedom. He's like, oh, you're going to work on, what did she say? She says, I may not

be perfect. And he says, oh, so you're going to try to be better? And she's like, well, I don't think I'm that bad. Yeah, he's still, he has this showing of, like, he's the man of the house and he's an adult at this point. And then every once in a while in the middle of one of his sentences, him being a 15 year old pops up. Like, he's just a disrespectful 15 year old, which a lot of teenagers are, and that's how they are to their parents. So he has this semblance of maturity, especially compared to his brother. He's got this huge, like, mature aspect to his personality, and he also has that teenager aspect where he's looking at his mom, like, all right, can you finish up talking because I'm kind of done with this?

You just let me go take it. You're going to let me go take it over to go hang out with my friends. That's a big step. But I'm not going to identify that as a big step. But I know it's a big. He's got this inner struggle between him where he's like, I'm a 25-year-old man that can take care of himself. I'm also a 15-year-old that needs his mom and hates that his mom is always around because I'm a fucking teenager. Like, it's really funny to watch go back and forth. And I know a lot of people don't really enjoy what Garcel brings, but I feel like this is a very real aspect, and she's still sharing

what she's going through with raising kids on her own. Like it, like it or not, it's real. It is real, and she's sharing it, so I appreciate it. It's just funny, like, because when he says stuff like that, and I agree with you, and I think that it's tougher because he's so mature and articulate

and, like, comes off so well, that when he says things, I'm like, ooh. Right. And all I want to be is, like, look, you little shit. Like, so. Stop talking your mom like that. But, you know, I agree with you. It is nice to see these scenes.

I enjoy them. I always do. But we get a really good scene with Sutton and her date, Steve. Steve's back. Steve's back. It did not go karaoke. I was really hoping they would. I was bummed.

But we played a little darts and he made a Burger King joke, which I actually texted Sutton immediately. And I said, you're like Burger King because I just thought that was funny as shit. You're like Burger King. You have it your way. And then he makes a Celine Dion joke. my man is trying, and I appreciate the effort. You know, it's not landing as well as he maybe thought it did, but he's trying.

And it's, I like, again, I've seen people say like, oh, what, we're just like, is this like a speed dating show? Like, that's what this has turned into. I enjoy these scenes. Right. I think they're funny. I think they're fun. Like, they're lighthearted. It's not that deep.

But you also get to see a Sutton in this whole episode, I think, which I enjoyed. She does seem like she left a lot of her baggage in Spain. She definitely did. And she's having a lot more fun. She's cutting loose. That first date was a little awkward, but, I mean, Steve talks the whole time. And they go back and forth. And that's good for Sutton.

I appreciate it. I think that, yeah, he's a little nerdy. He's a little quirky. But what are you going to do? Like, this is the people that don't like these scenes, what would you rather watch? Do you want to watch a crumbling marriage and be sad about it? Or do you want to watch maybe a happy go lucky couple of 50-year-olds go out on a first and second date? I don't think you want to put that poll out there because I'm pretty sure I know which one

would win and it's not the happy one. Look, I want to see, the thing is about the crumbling marriage, because I do want to see it as well, I need to see some sort of resolution. It's like, it's got to end at some point. You can't do this for years. It hasn't, though. I know. It's still going on right now. They're now talking about being

able to date well separated. That was today. That would actually make for a good storyline next year, though. That's a really good storyline for next year. Good storyline, and they're probably going to pick up cameras somewhat soon. damn i'm gonna have to see the struggle it brings to the family and are they okay with this we're not gonna see mo in his dates but they're gonna do the thing where they have a snippet

from you know page six of mo's out with this person he's pouring champagne on this girl's head and aspen like that's what we're gonna see and we're gonna see kyle's reaction to those things like that's that's gonna further the storyline by the way when you said pour champagne in her head and aspen yeah it's like head and oh aspen the place right in aspen yeah not and esp and yes you get it yeah i think so but this is where we get that kyle and mo conversation and uh it's it's really hard because we don't know the ins and outs so it's hard for me to really analyze it effectively only because we don't know all i can read is body language and body language is telling me that kyle wants to be very far away from mo and when they're

having this conversation most trying and that's where i'm like i want to give him credit for trying to contribute to the conversation but i don't know if he's done something really dumb and i should be watching this objectively and not adding that in but it's impossible to because we've heard the rumors and shit like that but he says you know therapies like yeah it's fun and i think he's nervous and trying to say like i'm enjoying it i'm enjoying trying to fix this i want to fix this with you and he's holding your hand and trying to laugh and make jokes and someone made a post of like how many times did Kyle get the ick during the scene and it like literally counted it on the screen and you watch her reactions to everything he says and she's not having it and I thought

that Mo actually spoke fairly well and optimistic about the situation and was trying to work with her a little bit and I feel like she and maybe it's too little too late maybe it's that kind of vibe I think that's the vibe that I was getting but also what are we really comparing it to are Are we comparing it to what we've seen from Mo in the past in this season alone? Yes. Yes, he's trying more than he did this season. Yes, I am. Yeah, exactly.

But there was nothing there. This is just still the bare minimum. And yeah, I do think that a lot of this is too little too late. I didn't get the sense that he was trying, necessarily, to work with the conversation. No, I feel like he was being very happy go lucky about everything. And he's like, oh, yeah, this is a good time. Like, you know, we're trying to figure this out. And like, he's still, like, laughing about it.

Like, this isn't like, I don't think it was a nervous. laugh either. I think he just doesn't take it that seriously. I think that, see, I disagree. I think that, and I'm not like defending either of them, honestly. I think that neither of them know how to navigate this. I think that's true. I think that that's his, his defense mechanism is to try to make light of it. And I think that Kyle's newfound defense mechanism is pulling away. Gross, gross, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out. I think you're right too. And I think that neither of them know how to navigate this and here's a really good example of that while they were talking and if you've ever gone to therapy you know this is kind of how it works they're talking about oh you know

like we have to get back into therapy so that I can talk to you about this that's not really how that's supposed to work you can talk now what's stopping you from talking right now you do not need the mediator and like for certain things I get it I think hold on but it does seem like Kyle is talking about like not very serious issues and she's like you know like I've got this thing pop into head and I'm like, you know what? I can't wait for therapy against that I can talk to you about this. Like, the whole reason for therapy is to get you guys to open up and communicate. Agreed. And you're not doing that. You're relying on a third person to help you do that, which is okay in the beginning. But, you know, if you've been doing that, you've been married for how

fucking long. And this is like how you're going about it. Like, that doesn't really add up to me. So that's why I feel like neither of them know how to navigate it. I agree with you. But I do think, and I don't know why I know this. You know that I know random things for some I sure do. And I'm right about them. And I could be wrong. And please, anybody out there, and I'm sure that we have a couple of therapists listening, so please correct us.

So I would actually like to know the answer to this. But I think that that's actually advised by the couple's therapist, at least early on, is if you have an issue, don't bring it up in the household. Let's save it for therapy. So you have a mediator. Well, that's what I'm, the early on is subjective, because we actually don't know how long they think of it. We don't know how long they've been therapy.

And Kyle sat down when she sat down, Sutton and said, we've been going to therapy. How long have you been going to therapy? It's like, we didn't get that. I would imagine it's also, he's been all over the world up until like a fucking week ago. Yeah, I imagine that it's relatively new, but again, I don't know. It just, they just seem so disconnected and they're both, I don't think they're both trying to achieve the same thing.

Like, there's not, they don't have the same goal in mind. I think Mo is thinking, we need to get back to where we were. Yes. And Kyle is more, I'm my own person and I'm growing into a different person that I, love a lot more, and you need to be able to accept that. And Mo isn't, like, really looking at it that way. I think that Kyle, and let me know what you think. I love how we're analyzing a scene that nobody got anything.

I know, right? People are listening right now, and they're like, how the fuck did you get anything from this scene? I'm glad, though. This is why I like talking to you about it, because you get it. You get it. You get it. We're like this, you know, ESPN. But I know it's actually ESP before someone makes fun of me.

Not you. Nobody's going to chime in right now. Somebody's going to comment. and say, still thinks it's a GSPN. They're going to think I'm dumb because I spelled Premiere wrong unintentionally.

But regardless, I think that Kyle is, I think she's done. I think she's done and she doesn't want to flat out say it. I think she wants to just create distance, create distance, and when the time is right,

finalize the divorce and move on and move past this. I thought they were going to find their way back. The more I'm seeing in the media recently, I really don't think that's a viable option. Not with their kids, growing up and moving out and going to college. I think that's the hammer, like the last nail in the coffin is once they're gone,

I really don't. Keeping you together. That's, yeah, exactly. So I think that she almost doesn't want to connect here. And that's her right. And like if she doesn't want to, I think she's more just, and it could be to your point where she's steadfast on this is me now and you need to change to accept that. And you know what?

She's right. Because she's made the sacrifices up until now. Right. If she wants to go pursue her shit and needs Mo around more, then Mo needs to be able to do that if he wants to stay. in the marriage now if the agency takes priority which all signs are pointing to it is then i think that for everybody children included because it's so public you're not really shielding them from shit they're seeing all of it trust me they're they're looking on instagram they're fucking looking

at google they're doing all that shit so like you're not actually protecting anybody now who the fuck am i to tell these people what to do with their marriage but at the same time like i think that they both know what they want that's the vibe i'm honestly they're getting. That's what this is all led up to. I think they both know exactly what they want in the future. I think that they're trying to hold on to this either for the kids, for optics, or just because they don't know how the fuck to end it. Yeah, I think it's the last one. I think neither of them knows how to end it. Either of them wants to be the one to say flat out. Which is understandable because they, for so long, like this was the happy couple. We watched these guys

because they were fun. They're a good time. So I, you said who were you to tell people what to do with their marriage. You're a podcaster, buddy. You do whatever you want. Tell people whatever the fuck I want. You tell what to do. Yeah. No. But we get Anne-Marie and she's having her party, uh, the diamond mother's day party at her house and we had to bring it up. And she's like, I want to clear the air with Crystal. In my mind, once all that shit happened in Spain, then you came to her aid and she even acknowledged you for doing that and said, thank you so much you guys had a moment after that where you're checking on her it's been squashed i agree you can fucking move on unless you don't want it to be squashed and you want to rehash it

they're cool you had a sign from god yes and the shit now so for the like as soon as she brought it up i was like fuck this is why because i was curious i knew we were going to get it because we know they're not cool now i was curious what was going to lead to the split again after the scene in in spain i was like oh they're cool now something must have happened again because we know they're not cool today. This seems to be what's going to... I guarantee next episode something's going to happen that stems from this conversation somehow.

I hope it doesn't because I don't care. I don't care either. I really don't care. We've got a finale to get through. We have a lot going on and we still need questions answered. This is not one of them. No, really, truly. Let them go.

Yes, don't care. Especially if Adam Marie's not even going to come back next year, which we don't know what's going to happen there. I think that... I assume she probably... I will, but... Bravo's pride and hubris. The hubris of Bravo...

Every storyline needs to bring them back. They can't be wrong. They can't have two one and duns in one year. That's ludicrous. Oh, the other one and done was perfect. The other one and done was exceptional. So that doesn't count as far as I'm concerned. That's not really a one and done.

No, that's a sail off into the sunset. Yeah. But up next, we get P.K. and Doreet, and this... They are so fucking produced. It drives me crazy. They start the conversation of, And then immediately fight because P.K. is in London for fucking 12 days. And let it be known in England. Mother's Day is not that big of a thing.

Mother's Day is not really a thing over here. How long you've been living in America, buddy? One. You paying taxes on tea? Two. How the fuck are you going to say to the mother of your children that you're not celebrating Mother's Day because you're not my mother. mother. No. It just doesn't make any sense. You could just lean on the fact that you had to travel and be like, yeah, you know, it's a really bad time to travel. But I wanted to call you now to wish you happy Mother's Day and we'll go out to dinner when we get back because I missed it. That's how you navigate that. You don't say, well, you know, to be fair, we don't even celebrate Mother's Day. I haven't spoken to my mom in years. Like, that's... In England, we leave the house at 10 and don't say anything to our mothers. You don't say that because it's going to make her feel like shit. She's already upset that you're traveling so much. Don't make it worse, you idiot. it just the whole thing between these two man i can't i don't care it drives me crazy it's clearly not

real like they don't like each other they don't like each other but we're also not getting a real reaction from duree like yes they are fighting yes we do not have a scene where dureate goes and she talks to kyle about what's going on with pke like the two of them are so afraid to talk to each other about anything real and like open up about emotions it drives me insane i like if dureate just did one or two scenes where she was open about how she feels about P.K. And how hard their marriage was. And I'm not talking about the Eagle Woman conversation that we had in the first episode

because that's so long ago now that I don't care about it. Ten years ago. Just sit down and show some fucking emotion and open up a little bit and we'll feel bad for you and we'll be on your side and we'll say we need Doreep back next year. Doreat's giving is nothing. So I don't care if she comes back next year.

I don't really give a shit about P.K. regardless. So none of this really matters to me. It's just kind of furthering the fucking story. And I just don't care. I agree. And I think that it's funny that you brought up the fact that her and Kyle can't have a real conversation about their emotions and lo and behold today,

they're not really that close right now. Yeah. And you add up all the shit that's happened between them, Morgan Wade, all blah, blah, blah. PK and Mo are probably gallivancing the world together. That's probably where Mo is. He probably left London to have that conversation with Kyle because those two are off doing their thing.

But whatever. We get to the Mother's Day party. And And this is what's funny to me about the jewelry at these parties. No one's buying them. They're like $3.5 million necklaces, $1 million rings. The cheapest thing I saw was $370,000. That was a ring. So they just fly them in so that they can put them on and then take them off.

I guess it's cool. Like, is that what you want to do at our shows? Because that's what you said, we should do something like this. And in my head, I'm like, what the hell? We're going to let them try our shit on and tell them to take it off or charge them ludicrous amounts of money. Maybe that part. Okay.

We're going to just jack up the prices. Yeah. T-shirt, $600. It's vintage. It is vintage. Yeah, we'll... What we'll do is you and I will wear each individual t-shirt. And we'll just put it on real quick, take it back off.

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I can't be my arms down. We'll do that and then we'll just take them off and give them people for like $300. Yeah. Okay, cool. Smells like a broadbrile. So bring your money. But that's when Sutton shows up to the party. and she brought a road soda.

And look, if you're not driving... Love a roadie. Yes, road sodas are great. Or whatever Anne-Marie called it, a walkie. A walkie, a roadie. I didn't like that was much. Yeah, no. She was on the road.

It's a roadie or a road soda. I like road soda because it comes out of the mouth well. Roadie is a little easier to say. Regardless, nothing wrong with a road soda. And she gets there, she's not, like, bombed. She's a little tipsy, and she gets a little drunker as the day goes on. I did not care. She pre-gamed.

What's the fuck's wrong with pre-gaming? Pre-gaming is the best. Yeah, I don't. did not care for the backlash that she got when she walks in. Garcell's lap, why did you need a roadie? Why did you need a roadie? Because, man, it's a fucking Mother's Day party, and she wanted a roadie. The reaction that I liked the most was Erica's.

Yeah, let's take advantage of her now. Let's go over and take a look at the jewelry. Yeah. Maybe you'll buy you something. Exactly. That's funny. That's how friends support friends. But, like, this to me was leaking or leaking into, like, the early shit in the season.

It's like, oh, it was something and an alcoholic. It's like, she's so. Yeah, but to read didn't say anything. Like, if to read it said something, I would have been annoyed. professional and said some shit. I don't give a shit what she does in her confessionals. I don't care. I'm just saying, it irritated me because she's like, it wasn't like a sad drunk or anything.

Like, she's finally light. She's lighter. She's coming in. She's like, ooh, let's have some fun. I'm a little tipsy. Let's get weird today. Day drinking. Where are the handrails?

Yeah, where's the fucking handrails? Damn it. Which said that dapper gentleman helped her up. That was nice, that was nice. But we finally get the conversation between Crystal and Anne-Marie. It's very ho-hum. I didn't believe either of them. but it's just more or less let's move on and agree to disagree to which i must ask disagree about

what i don't know dude what did they disagree on the conversation didn't make any sense it they agreed that both of them it said things that they wish they hadn't what do they disagree about i don't know what the disagreement about it's about how crystal feels about emory's job i guess that's like that's what i know i was like what because crystal said it i'm like that's not an apology that's a but she doesn't know her an apology she doesn't but that's a that's not a i'm gonna stop talking about your job or anything like that it's just like yeah i disagree with what you're talking about with your job but we'll agree to disagree about that that's what i mean but that's my whole point like you should have left this shit in spain you were good look we're no stranger to uh fake

apologies no i don't even think that is considered an apology that wasn't it's so fake that it's not an apology it was just a agreement yeah and then they hugged and then they got like What was the hug? I don't know. I don't know. I didn't like it. But the last scene is Erica finally speaks up. And look, I'm curious what your take on this whole situation is, like, I didn't mind her speaking up.

I think it's kind of silly to assume that everyone's going to apologize to you or that you need an apology from everyone. There were certain people that were gassed up against you. I understand that. But at the same time, I think that it's ironic that Erica wanted everybody to, to be so objective about her trials and the lawsuits coming at her, but she can't be objective about how they were feeling about everything. She can't look at the big situation and the bigger picture and say, oh, I get it.

Like you guys were a little bit wary and hesitant because of all the shit in the media, because of how close I was with Tom, because of the potential implications against me. That's why you guys were a little hesitant to just have my back and support me. It's why some of you had questions for me. Objectively speaking, if you could look at it that way, you would understand a little bit more. Could you still be upset that they didn't unconditionally have your back?

Sure, a little bit. But if you can't look at the situation overall as a whole, as you're asking them to do in regards to having your back, that doesn't make sense to me. You can't have it both ways. You need to be able to understand, oh, I get it. Like, yeah, if I was in your shoes, actually, I do believe that Erica would have somebody's back wholeheartedly

with zero questions. But to assume that there's not going to be any kind of hesitation from these girls in the group and not understand why, I think it's kind of silly. Ah, man, I hate that. Yeah, you ready for that? No, I just hate that I'm in this position. On the couch? I'm happy for Erica.

No! I know. Look, this was a much more productive way to do what she's been doing for the last couple of weeks. Absolutely. I'm happy that she sat down. Yes, and we've talked about this a lot, whether anybody really owes her an apology, for the way that it was going on. She was going through a lot last year.

Like, there was a lot going on that maybe she didn't know how to handle it. And maybe this is just because we've seen her sit down with her therapist and actually talk about her emotions here and there, which we didn't see ever before. So we were just marking it up for, oh, Eric is just an absolute villain. She doesn't care about anybody. I think it was eating away at her. And I think that this is one of those things where she needs people to kind of have her back. I think deep down she understands why they don't have her back. but she did sit down and she got emotional

and she didn't pull any punches as soon as Doreet started talking first off Kyle sort of had her back but you know she didn't really speak out Kyle's not really in a bad place with Erica I think Eric is okay with that Doret speaking up and saying do you believe that like I didn't actually have your back

her Erica going right back at Dorete that made me happy because that's what Dorete does she plays both sides and she acts like nobody's going to remember the things that she says you said a lot about Erica last year you were not on her team team last year.

Erica called you out immediately. Why do you guys, why do you think you're not as close anymore? Like, that's one of the things. I loved Sutton sitting there, putting her hand up right away.

Like, there's people here that did not have my back and they were questioning a lot of the things that I was doing. Sutton, hand up. Pointing at herself. Me, me, me, over again.

That's really, I feel like, who she actually got a genuine apology from was Sutton, which was a really nice moment. It pissed a lot of people off. It definitely pissed a lot of people off. Comments were hot. Fuck the comments.

Whoa. I didn't fucking comment, buddy. No, no, no, no, I'm talking. I said, fuck the comments. Yeah. The inclination was a little pointed. No, the commenters, they're idiots. You looked at me right in the eyes, and you said, fuck. We agree. Because we're in this together. I have opinions.

You definitely have opinions. I do. About the whole thing. Oh, okay. Well, I don't care about your opinion. But, um, no, I, like, I thought that was a really nice moment, which we've never gotten before. We don't get an authentic, broken down, sad, maybe a little happy. you know, congratulations quote unquote or in order because she won something

or rather it went back to the district court instead of whatever. This was an actual real moment from her. And I feel like this will actually put it to bed because yes, I agree. Everybody got to say their peace, you know, whether you agree or not, Sutton actually apologized and she took ownership of everything that she did.

Erica needed that. We can move on. I'm happy about that. My whole take on it. That's all the time we got today. I don't think that, you know, I appreciated that Garcell said I had my opinions. I will not apologize for that, but I didn't want you to fall. I appreciate that.

That's, again, the objective part of it, where you can look at it as a whole and be like, look, a lot of shit was going on. It was kind of confusing to navigate, okay? The Sutton thing. I do believe that she owed her an apology just in regards to, she was very outspoken about, she must have had a hand in something. I agree, yeah. And that's kind of fucked up looking back.

I mean, we were all doing it, too. Like, it was kind of baffling to think that this amount of money. To be fair, I'm not too sure that she didn't have a hand in it, but... Oh, here we go. Here we go. You're on Team Erica one second. Now you're throwing on the best of it. But regardless, for the people that are, like, throwing hate at her for apologizing, I don't think that's necessary.

Now, was it a necessity for her to apologize? I don't think so. I think that, again, when I look at it from an overall standpoint, I think that Erica should be able to understand why there was no apologies. She should be able to understand why they were hesitant only because of the optics as a whole. Now, that brings into, again, the argument of they're her friends. They're supposed to be there regardless and trust their friend. I agree. I don't think that these apologies were, like, mandatory.

I do think that they would go a long way. And also because of this newfound Erica Jane that we have, this Erica Jane that is in touch with her emotions, she brings up a touchy subject for her, doesn't lose her shit. She stays calm and collected, even when Doreet challenges. her she still remains composed so yeah i think that this is a really good way for the friends in the group to show her hey we recognize what you've gone through we recognize the person you are today i'm sorry that i played a hand in making you feel a certain way a year ago i think that's totally totally reasonable and anybody in the comments that's saying like you shouldn't have done that put yourself in sutton's shoes put yourself in kyle's shoes and it's also funny that after

sutton has this heartfelt apology and kyle's already spoken up now kyle speaks up again to apologize shocking. But I think the biggest thing is it goes a long way for Erica and for these women in the group that are trying to mend some friendships because this group is in tatters. I think that it makes a lot of sense, but I also think that you're seeing friendships

as you predicted in episode one take shape that we wouldn't have predicted previously. And this is going to lead to a very interesting season next year as to where everyone's going to stand with each other because I have no fucking clue. Yeah, I don't, And obviously it's going to depend on who is still on the show, which, I mean, we haven't even gotten looks for the reunion yet. We haven't gotten the finale's next week.

So I got them next week. I guess. But like, we got Miami's three weeks ago. And this is Beverly, well, they're definitely going to take a pause week before the reunion comes out. Yeah, most likely. Beverly Hills, I feel like, is one of those that does that. Yeah, they'll give Miami that first night. And then they'll do a three-parter.

Miami's a three-parter. I know. Oh, God. Oh, man. Oh, man. Eddie. I know. Yeah, we'll see how it all culminates next week, because I don't, I don't know. I don't think there's really going to be a conclusion that we're happy with. No, well, we know there's not because everything's still happening now. I'm not going to be pessimistic. Optimistically speaking, we'll be happy with the fact that they're not going too long. And we talked about this in the beginning of our episode. You said that it was dragging on a little bit. But if they ended, like they're ending it next week, we'll be okay with that because there's not five more episodes of this.

I will say that they should only have two parts because of what we know today. There's no need for... Unless Mo's going to be at the reunion, they should only do two. I agree. Mo's going to be at the reunion. Moe's going to be the third part. It's going to be a sit-down with Mo? No, I think they're just going to bring Mo out in the third part.

Because the first one's going to be stuff. I don't think he's going to have stuff to talk about. Yeah, you will. You think? If not, the fact that they're even still separated and not just straight up divorced is shocking. If he can't show up then to answer for some of the shit from this season as not being at Lorraine's celebration of life amongst other things And I know that Kyle after dragging him in the show

Then came out and said it wasn't like that Which makes no sense That's a good point I just think there's too many questions from Mo And I think that it would go a long way in his marriage We'll see we still have one more actual episode And then we'll get back into We'll do a little pregame for the reunion next year

Yeah, a little reunion pregame But let's get to some questions I'm sure we got a bunch. Oh, I'll start it off with a banger from Lem vibes. What did Steele cook for Valentine's dinner? And we need a dev episode. I agree. I did a homemade ficasha with some Iberico prosciutto and some ricotta,

topped with a little balsamic drizzle. I did a fillet. And I made a creamed peppercorn sauce with a roasted beet in there to make it pink because it was Valentine's Day. I made other shit, too, but I don't want to keep talking. From Deb milky. Sorry if I pronounced that wrong. Why is Erica still looking for apologies today?

She delayed the earring matter till May. I don't really think that we can speak on any legal strategies. Just because, like, that doesn't mean anything to me. Oh, the delayed the earring thing? Yeah, I don't care. Maybe the lawyers thought that it would be better to delay it until May. I have no idea why. Who the fuck knows?

And we just did a whole soliloquy on the apologies. On the apologies. The flat-out quick answer is because I think she needs a foreclosure. And to finish it out from Vail, oh, let me do it right. The Alejandra Deeks, or Valéhandra Deeks, one of the two. Or I read it completely wrong. But regardless, shout out to you doing all these Bravo shows, Vanderpump, Southern Charm, and Jersey is all. I think that you wanted to write more.

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