Bros & Shows - Is Julia Okay? (RHOM Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

What's up Bros? We apologize for the delay in getting this episode out, but that just means we have TWO miami episodes this week! In this episode, Julia and Guerdy continue to grow apart. It's hard to understand where Julia is coming from because it seems so cut and dry that Guerdy has done nothing wrong. Lisa finds out about the shade being thrown behind her back while she was at her dads funeral. Larsa introduces us to Stefanie Shojae while they are flying on a PJ. The jury is still out on her. Marysol's worries are getting worse as Alexia is now lying to spend time with Todd. Kiki lets us learn more about her and her relationship with her father. This has been a strange start to the season. It's still amazin TV, but much different roles than we are used to seeing. Was Dr Nicole the glue that held this group together? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Book direct and save at bestwestern.com. I saw an interesting tweet the other day of somebody asking, why are people not watching Miami? And the answers were interesting. It wasn't a lot of negativity. It was a lot of people saying, I don't know where to start because of the get. app, and I'm not sure when it got good, should I start at season two, season four, whatever.

A lot of people's reasoning is just simply they haven't gotten around to it. Interesting. I think a lot of that falls on Bravo for not promoting it, right? I agree. That's probably the biggest shows. Bros and shows. I gotta have me my bros and shows.

Bros and shows. Rose and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of pros and shows. I am your co-host. Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only studio Goots. Welcome back. Feels good to be back. A nice tan, car fixed, I think. I don't know, we'll find out. Just in time for me to take my truck in. There we go. That's what we want

to do. But yeah, it feels good to be back. We're a little delayed on this Miami episode, but you'll have it before tomorrow night's episode or tonight's episode, whatever it might be. I just wanted to make sure that you guys had that before, just to give you some context, you know? You're going to have two Miami episodes in one week. How about that? How about that? I still love this show.

I think it's amazing. If you're listening, I'm going to do this every week because we're doing our best to promote this show and get more people to watch it. We are not paid to do this. This is easily one of the better Housewives franchises out there. So if you're listening to this and not watching the show, start with last season or the season before that,

and go from there. This show rocks. The cast is amazing. The drama's great. They're all actually friends, so everything's real or as real as it can be. Stop avoiding the show. Stop avoiding the show. I thought you were going to keep going there.

I guess not. No. It really is. It's a quintessential house wave show. It's everything that you want with deep-rooted friendships to very campy to just real things that happen within a friend group. Not, you know, nothing fabricated, nothing like, okay, we know that these two don't hang out on camera. They're playing it up with the camera. Everything seems super genuine, even down to Larsa,

because I truly believe that Larsa is who she is on this show. I agree. That's the funny thing when it comes to Larsa. You know how I feel about her. Not a huge fan. No. But I recognize what she does for the show. Yeah. I think she's incredibly authentic. She is. Like, that's actually, she, well, it's ironic because her inauthenticity is authentic. Yes. Which is bizarre to say, but like this character that she has created is not a character for the show. It is a character for her life. Correct. I think it's really funny and kind of telling that right now, what's going on with this show, at least in this season, is everybody questioning a situation in which we haven't seen Julia do this before. Yeah. It seems completely out of character for her to do this,

and now it's a big talking point. I know. Look, I don't know if this has to do with the kids and the massive shift in her life obviously the tragic story of her one child that passed away from shaken baby syndrome could easily be playing into this whole thing she's feeling a certain way because you know as two kids back in her house so i don't know i don't want to like throw that out the window because obviously that that's probably contributing to it yeah but at the same time we do have to address what the hell is going on with her because it's like a different person, honestly. It's a different person. And I'm wondering what the hell's going on mostly because we could have chalked it up after the end of episode one or two and said, well, this is completely out of character. That's weird. And yeah, we would still kind of be left picking up the pieces of why is she doing this. Is there other things that are affecting it? Instead, what we're doing is showing more information about Gertie and her's relationship. So now we're trying to put two and two together. They're giving us more, I don't even want to call it evidence. They're giving us more

context, I guess. Somewhat. In case you want to go down the road of, okay, maybe Gertie is at fault, which we're not. Not even remote. Unless there is more evidence that shows that, which there isn't at this moment. But they're at least giving you that outlet. Like, okay, if you're a big Julia fan and you really don't understand what's going on, here's Gertie's take on the situation.

And if you see enough there, you can take Julia's side if you want to. It's interesting. They're not doing like an edit. Yeah, not like wish us one way or another. They're just showing us things. Sometimes it's taken completely out of context. and sometimes it's, you know, loosely connected. I know, it's just, and if you're hearing the thunder,

there's a massive thunderstorm right now. Not a new soundboard thing that you'll figure it out. No, we just got hit with a tornado watch, or sorry, tornado warning, which means that a tornado has touched down somewhere near us. And here's a little public service announcement. Tornado watch versus tornado warning. A watch means that the conditions are conducive for a tornado, or tornado warning means that one has touched down within your area.

Yeah. So, yeah, we might die. But we continue on. We die doing what we love. Damn right. Bamb, Berm, b'n, b'n, b'n, die and doing what we love. Recap in Miami and blowing air horns, baby.

But it's a good point you made as we jump into this episode because we start out with the Julia and Gertie situation. And the thing is, they are presenting us context. but the context seems so clearly in Gertie's favor that it's hard to even think that anybody could be team Julia through this thing. She's even retelling what happened and saying that she had water thrown in her face. Julia, that's a lie. It's a lie.

It doesn't make any sense. That wasn't just like her misspeaking. That was just a blatant lie. So like that's, I've grown to love Julia over the past few years. And this is, it's a bizarre switchup. And you get this montage of, like, Gertie saying that she attacked her and Gertie's really upset about this whole thing, obviously, because the whole thing was so bizarre. And she's setting up her house for Halloween. I guess she's a big Halloweener because her son's a big Halloweener.

I mean that in an endearing way. So the house is. Yeah. Well, no, Halloween I. Halloween. Halloweenist. Halloweenist? Yeah, okay.

Halloweenist. That's good. Yeah, they're Halloweenists. So, uh, Liam. Something wrong about that. Yeah, I don't know. They like Halloween. Okay, there we go. They're fans of the holiday.

They're not pagans. Right. Well, right. That's where I was going with Halloweenist. Okay, I got it. It's like paganism and then Satanism? What the hell's going on there? What are we talking about?

I don't know. Okay, cool. They're decorating for Halloween and you get Russell talking to Gertie, and she's filling him in about the whole Julia situation. And we can sum this up, because we're going back and forth between Martina and Julia, Russell and Gertie. Gertie is genuinely distraught about this whole thing.

She feels degraded, violated because it was an embarrassing thing that happened. Julia literally stood over her and screamed at her and threw water in her face. Yes. So she, rightfully so, feels a type of way about it. Meanwhile, Julia is trying to place blame on Gertie. She's like, you know, she messed up Marisol's wedding and Gertie's making everything difficult. And it's like, Gertie walk. in there. And how did that even pop off? Oh, yeah. She's like, do you want to go talk about it?

Yeah, and she didn't want to go talk about it. She wanted to stay with the group. I thought that these two scenes side by side were pretty telling from the partner's perspective. Yeah. Because the way that Russell was talking about Julia, it looked to me that he doesn't really like Julia. He doesn't care for her. Does not care for her. And the way the Martina was talking about Gertie, it seems like she's easily written off. But I don't. Okay, whatever. I don't, you know. Is that? That could just be Martinez demeanor because she does that a lot. But there was a little bit more to it where she was talking you know how we get a scene with martina she won't say a word and you're like all right she's just fed up she doesn't want to deal with this shit yep this was more talking from her

which tells me that specifically she doesn't like gertie okay there's more here and we always thought that julia and gertie were cool that we always thought that they were friends gertie came over to julia's farm last season or the season before one of the only people who's actually gone to the farm yep so there were different things that made us think wow it sounds so cool that i hope that goes through the microphone. But there were different things that would have led us to believe, okay, yeah, they're really good friends. It's one of the good friends in the group at this point.

And the way that people are talking about them from side by side, it's like, were they not really close? Were they not friends? Did their partners never really like their friendship? Is there more here? Is there a deep-rooted issue that neither of them is talking about? Whether, I think Julia would talk about it if she could put it into words at this point. She's just kind of trashing Gertie openly.

Gertie's just reacting to what Julie is. been doing so it's a very convoluted situation yeah i'm not really sure what to make of it i think you bring up a good point and i think that's true of any friendship like obviously they don't know all the ins and outs that's going on we're only privy to certain things on the screen could they have grown apart over the past few years or you know is julie going home and venting to martina about a gertie issue and vice versa so now their partners are like i don't want to hear it anymore so maybe that's what it is but they are having their baby shower and they decide to invite Gertie, which we're all four, even though there's a feud. Everybody should go to events.

We should have all parties present. So in case things pop off, such as last week, over Lisa, that person should be there to defend themselves. So I'm glad that they did that. Like, that was a big move, I guess. Yeah. But it's an important move. But we have a newbie. And her name's Stephanie. I don't show Jay. I was saying show hey. Show hey. But I have no idea. Steph. Steph.

It's a new housewife. Guys, it's a Larsa friend. It's a Larsa friend. And look, we want wealth on these shows. Is this the way I want wealth on the show? I don't know yet. The jury's still out for me. I'm not sure if I love or hate Steph yet.

I don't know. I am excited at the prospect of her being a Caroline Stanberry friend. Sure. Because I do get those types of vibes from her. That's what Caroline always did. and, you know, ladies of London, and then she did it in Dubai for what we saw from Dubai before that was canned. So I like the vibes I'm getting.

I originally was not excited about her being a Larsa friend at all. Yeah. I'm like, all right. I've seen all I need to see. But is it a Larsa friend, or is it similar to a Bronwyn in Salt Lake where people claim to be friends, but then it all starts falling apart? It could. She definitely has the demeanor of somebody that could just start deflecting a little bit and, like,

kind of clearing her way from Larsa, because it sounds like, Their friendship started because Caroline wanted them to meet. Yeah. And Stephanie was like, I don't really want to meet somebody. I don't really care about that, which I'm all for, by the way. Sure. I've got enough friends. I don't need it anymore.

Don't introduce me to other people. Just like personally? No, it just resonated with me. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I don't need any more. I'm good over here. I'm going to go take my jet to go pick up my dogs. You're still talking about you?

Yeah, still talking about me. But at the end of the day, Larsa does need people. to film with. Sure. I am very tired of her just on the phone by herself or talking to her kids or talking to her mom. Yeah, it's a tough look. Other people need to be around her. And it seems like right now she's just a social friend for the people on the show, which doesn't bode well for her. It's pretty crazy. Like the first three episodes or two episodes, we literally got her trying to find anybody to film with to push her storyline forward. And that was her mom and her kids. Her son had zero interest in being on the show. He was just trying to focus on his fashion show. And look, we see

moms a lot. But the back to back of family members in individual scenes just goes to show you. She doesn't have a friend. So if that's who this person is in Steph, like, okay, fine. I'm here for that to see. At least initially. Yeah. And like I could. See how it shakes out. Could wear thin pretty quick. I'm not sure. She has potential to really get on my nerves. I'm not going to lie. But I will hold out. I agree in the way of like always saying what designer she's wearing yes like just i am all about having wealth yeah and i'm i'm okay with in your face a little bit a little bit it's miami so it's gonna be in your right a little bit just not in you know every single sentence doesn't need to be about wealth that's my thing and

she did that at the baby shower too yeah it's just a game you know right i got it all my versachi like just say your dress yeah and like maybe it's her coming in you know i always always tread lightly with making a little strong. Yeah, she could be coming in strong. I'm not going to cast judgment yet. We'll see how she does. I'll wait. I'm just of the thought process of these women on this show are all about fashion. Yeah. I mean, we just got a whole scene of both Lisa and Larsa being in Milan for a fashion show. You're not going to have to scream that you have a Versace dress on. Right. You can just say my dress and they're going to know from afar like, oh, that's Versace. That's expensive. Yeah. If they bring it up, then you can start talking about it.

Talks both whispers. Yeah, I knew you were going to say it. Yeah, baby, but the PJ, they're on a PJ, and I don't know what this sentence means. You must love me to fly private with me. What? I don't, I don't get it. I don't get it either. Larissa thought they were, which I don't believe.

Not at all. I thought we were going to the mall. Nobody thinks were just going to lunch, like, no. She goes, I thought we were going to the mall. At what point did your Uber driver take you to an airstrip? And you're like, this isn't the mall? Oh, this isn't KOP? What the hell's going on here?

Knowing Larsa, though, she's like, this is so cool. We're going to do this. Now, apparently she's afraid of flying, though. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, that's right. Again, I like it as an introduction. I, you know, it's a weird thing, actually. I like it as an introduction.

If she does it all the time, it's going to be annoying with the DJ and all that shit. But a season down the line, if she's still doing it, and she's consistent with, like, yeah, we're just going to hop on the plane and we're just going to go to Orlando, which is like, an hour and a half drive away, but we're going to be there in two minutes. I'm okay with that. Orlando's further than that, but yeah, I hear what you're saying. I agree with Miami or Florida distances.

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wherever you get your podcasts. But I guess her husband owns a construction company that builds like everything in Miami. Is that what it is? Yeah. It was confusing. She was talking about apartments and like the number of, uh, I thought he built the apartments. I think it's probably both. Okay, maybe it's both. He started in the 80s. He appears to have a lot of money. Yes. Okay. So the one line that really, stuck out to me. Everyone in life gets a little help. Uh-huh.

What the fuck? Completely out of touch. Just how I like my housewives. That's good, yeah. Like, I wasn't even that upset at it because I was like, okay, if that's where you're coming from, the thing is consistency. If she maintains this, I can get on board. If we see fluctuations and I'm like, oh, that's not who you are.

Yeah. That's one's going to piss me off. But Larson is giving updates to Steph about the group, like the Lisa update. and I guess at some point, Steph and Lisa shared a glam squad, or she let her use her glam squad at one point. We're having a lot of issues with glam squads. Yeah, it's like the new thing. In Atlanta, is that the new thing?

What was it before? We always have tropes. I guess glam squad sharing is the one this year. Well, the OG was in Roney back in the day. They were hooking up with the same guys. Oh, yeah. They just brought them back up in a local hotel. Tom something.

Oh, damn it. I forget. But she also fills her in a little bit. about the Gertie and Julia whole, like that whole thing. So Steph's kind of up to speed. He's also probably a little wary about what to expect the next time she gets together with the group. But she gets off the jet.

And of course, Lars has to FaceTime somebody from the PJ. Gotta. You got to face something. Where are you? Ooh, I'm trying. Oh, whoops. I dropped my phone. She just said we were going to lunch.

Isn't that quirky and crazy? That's so wacky. Yeah. But Marisol fills Larson about the Todd Alexia situation. And I guess Todd had asked the judge for a three. month extension on the divorce decree. So that whole thing's... This is going to be a whole season.

I don't need it. It's going to be, though. You already know it. But that's not a storyline. It's not. you can fill us in. I want to know. But like, how many times are we started a season with a pending divorce? And by the end of the season, the divorce is still pending. And then the following season, the divorce is still pending. And then in the off season, we get a blurb that says they're divorced. Yeah, and they're still not divorced currently. That's why I'm telling you it's going to last all season.

It's just going to be a roller coaster of will they, won't they, will they won't they? But we know that they won't. So it doesn't really matter. And I think as we stand right now, assuming that there's no news leaks or anything and they are actually divorced, they've now been going through divorce longer than they were married. So that's fun. Up next we have to Lisa and Marisol, and she's filling Lisa in on everything that she's missed. And she starts talking about Todd.

And Marisol is obviously the closest to Alexi. And she's starting to get concerned about this whole situation. And she's trying to fit this in because Alexia is about to come join them. So she's just giving Lisa like the rundown of, hey, it's back and forth, back and forth. One day she's up. She's down. I'm not really sure. But as we all know, Marisol wants Alexi to get the fuck away from Todd.

Yeah. So do we all do? We all do. There are no redeeming qualities to Todd. No, I have yet to see one. I actually will go as far to say I like Alexia a lot more, even going through this, quote, unquote, divorce than I did when she was with Todd. Right. Because when she was with Todd, we spent

half of that season just making excuses for Todd. Yes. And it was kind of rough to watch because I do like Alexi, and I think she's great for the show. And she and Marisol have this great little friendship that really works for the show in a way that I don't really want to see them break up because of something here. Correct. You know what I mean?

I don't think it's going to get there, but just the fact that Marisol's talking about it so much, it seems like I could drive a wedge between the two of them if she speaks her mind at some point. and Alexei is not hearing it. It could be a reunion issue because Alexia is going to see her talking about Todd so much. That's going to be difficult.

I would be heartbroken if those two broke up. Yeah. Marisol and Alexia, not Todd. Not Todd. But that will be interesting to see once Alexia watches this all back. But Alexia arrives and they're recapping Milan and everything that happened there. And the Jody accusations, apparently Jody had yelled at Larsa. And it was this whole mess, this whole issue.

And Lisa's like, that's bullshit. shit. That never happened. I don't know what's going on. Larsa is manipulative. I don't think that Jody just, like, went off the rails for no reason. I don't think he went off the rails. Did he, like, raise his voice potentially? Like, I don't know. Like, something happened. Larsa did something that caused a reaction. That's a possibility. Maybe she made a little dry joke in there or something. A.C. joke. Yeah, just, like, throwing something out there just to say, like, whatever. And then he got a little upset. I think. right now in my mind the most likely situation was the two of them just talked and talked and

talked and he got a little fed up with it they could have been in a better place because both of them did say you know we got to a better place a little bit yeah and then jody walked over and was like are you serious like can we go do something else like are you just going to sit here and talk about this the whole night i don't want to do it anymore and then larcic could make a little jab because that's what she does and then he may have said something back and then that now is exponential you know a week or two later, all of a sudden it's Jody was screaming in my face. That actually tracks. Yeah, that's in my mind.

That's what I think happened. Now, is there AC in Milan? Probably. I would imagine. Did he find some AC in Milan? Possibly? He was hot. Not really sure what was going on there.

But I don't think that, I think that's just like the easy cop out. For sure, that's the low hanging fruit. Look at his eyes and everybody at the table's like, eh, he kind of looks like that anyway. He did. The more I've seen that picture, the less damning it is. It's like, that's just how he looks all the time. but juxtaposed to this scene, we get Larsa facetimbing Jack, who was the dude in Milan, the assistant to the fashion guy or whatever,

global ambassador. He's got an agenda too, so. He just wants to be on TV. He does. And it's so catty and, like, annoying. These scenes suck. I really don't enjoy this because they're going over Lisa. And Jack is saying, well, he can't speak to women like that,

alluding to Jody. Hey, man, I don't know who. you are. I already don't trust Larsa. I'm not going to trust Larsa's lackey who's on a FaceTime trying to get famous. I'm sorry. The only thing that we know about him is that he was downright rude to Lisa and Jody. Yeah. During the show. Correct. To the point where Lisa was walking out, by the way, with the same company. Yep. And didn't even look at her because he was taking selfies with Larsa and putting his flashlight on. Correct. So he's already in an asshole. He's already basically Larson's lackey.

So why are we supposed to believe this guy? I don't believe this guy at all. And we shouldn't. And like they're taking digs at Jody. And it's like, all right, Larsa, where's your man? Whoa. Whoop. Whoa. I'm talking all that shit.

Marcus is gone. So I don't know. I think Jack is going to get on my nerves pretty quickly if he's a recurring character. But again, that's because Larsa has no one to film with. Yeah. How many FaceTime talks have we seen? That's the problem. Like, it's very telling that the rest of the way.

women don't really want to, like, work with her. Right. They're not going to her apartment. Last year, they were going to her apartment all the time. We even saw it when Lisa, when Alexi and Todd broke up in the beginning of this season, which we didn't really need to see because nothing happened. Yeah, that was a real thing. They were at Larissa's apartment.

So something must have happened because we have not seen anybody go over Larsas. Nobody's having one-on-one situations with Larsa unless it's to resolve a problem that Larsa started. Right. So we're getting into that weird gray area where we both agree that she's very good for the show, but at some point if they can't stand her and they don't want to film with her, she's no longer good for the show. That's a good point.

It's an interesting little razor edge there. I wonder if we'll get that later. It's still early. It's still early. It's just the writing's on the wall already, so. I don't know. It's going to be interesting to watch her, but we're back with Lisa Marisol and Alexia,

and Lisa's like, look, I heard about the party, and I think it's pretty wild that my dad died and Larson's talking shit about me. That's pretty crazy. So I had to respond, and I sent a picture to Larsa. What did you send? My dead dad in the casket.

Fucking hilarious. That's crazy, bro. That's funny as shit. I love that she did that. It's like the best slash worst comeback you could ever do. It's like, bam, take a picture. This is what I'm dealing with, and you want to start this bullshit. She's not wrong.

Larson's response tells you everything you need to know. Oh my God, praying for you, babe. Shut up. Fuck off. Yeah. Come on. By the way, just because Lisa sent you the picture. picture doesn't mean that you didn't know that he died until then. You knew he died a couple of days ago.

Exactly. When Lisa was going up to Canada to go to his funeral. Exactly. So now you're going to say, oh, my God, praying for you, babe. Yep. The best response to that would be nothing. Just, yeah. You'd be a thumbs down to the...

Oh, that would have been the move. Could you imagine? And then you could spin it however you want. That was a thumbs down, like, to death. Yeah, I don't like death. Ooh. Death. Maybe we should lighten up a little bit.

Let's get to. to Kiki and Summer. And I love that we're getting to learn more about Kiki this year. She's been a big part of this show for a while, but kind of always an afterthought. And we've always talked about her deserving more time on the screen. So we're finally getting that. And she's with her daughter, Summer. They're going to pick up Kiki's dad.

As we know, this dude kicked her out of the house when she was a teenager in the rain with a backpack because she was a model. Yep. And they equate that to pornography. Yep. So that's the dude we're dealing with. it is. As they're driving in this car, and, you know, Kiki's clearly coming to terms of this and trying to figure out how to navigate. I love that she's not just, like, trying to make this dude happy. Like, she's still got her walls up. Yeah. She checks him a little bit. She

finds out she has another sibling with more potentially on the way. Yeah. This guy kind of sucks. He's up to seven kids, and he even thought that that was a crazy number because he couldn't remember it. He doesn't know how many children he has. Uh, uh, active in my life or like overall, seven, seven, including you? I don't know. It's just too much math now. Eight. Oh, shit, nine.

I'm not really sure where to go from here. Thankfully, her daughter in the backseat just was a good icebreaker. Yes, she was. Hey, this is my name. He probably forgot. I forgot, but like, he also forgot. Because Kiki was talking. I'm not her grandfather, so that's okay if I forget.

That's okay. Yeah. That's totally fine. Yeah. But meanwhile, Kiki's oldest, he doesn't even know what great he's in, how tall he is, like what he's up to. This guy sucks, but her mom, last episode, was talking about how important it is in Haitian culture to respect your parents. It's like, isn't there a line? Yeah.

Is there not a line? Like, dad kicks you out of the house. We're getting there. There are still generational things going on where, like, yeah, you do have to give your deadbeat dad a chance, I guess. Sure. Certain cultures. but you know in 50 years probably not I just don't see it like

I don't understand it's something like but like that's where it comes into like the you know generational trauma and like all the things that she's gone through and you know what it means to her to actually reconnect part of it's probably like a reconnect in the sense of look how well I did even though you kicked me out I think that's a big part of which is cool

I like that and she can do it from a good place of I'm still willing to let you in on this part of my life like you can still meet your grandkids you can still see what I'm doing and like stay close to me and we can go you know go to lunch and just kind of catch up if you want to do that she's giving them the option but I do think just based off of Kiki and like how it's going and how like tentative she was even talking to her mom about it she'll be quick to cut them off if something goes wrong I think so and she should yeah no she doesn't seem like she's handling it poorly at all like it seems like she knows what she's doing it's just the premise is so wild to me but we'll see how that thing shakes out we'll get back to the rest of our episode in just a minute. But first, we've got a few words from our friends over at Prolon. And look, the summer season is here. I went to the beach for the first time this past week.

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Stephanie doesn't like kids. It's a weird thing to like proclaim to people. I always think when I hear that you don't like kids, it's like when people say they don't like dogs. You know, like just don't say like I don't want kids. That's fine. I've never felt like kids fit into my life. because that's kind of where she went with it. That's fine.

She started off with, I don't like kids at all. Yeah, and then it was like grubby little pause and stuff like that. It's like, okay, again, yeah, name drop of the designer. Yeah, we get it. Again, you're rich. It's the intro, so I'm not, I'm just going to take it to this. We'll put a pin in that. We will put a pin in that for now.

I have a feeling we're going to remove that pin at some point. We're not going to start the graphic with the, you know, bottom left corner of all of Stephanie's name drops. Right. Yeah. But it might be coming soon. It's probably coming this week. If it continues this week, we're doing it. Let's do that.

I'm actually into that. We learn about Steph's husband, who is 25 years older. And look, she doesn't want the misconception of a gold digger. Okay? Okay, guys? Yeah. That's tough. This is tough.

It's tough because... She works at Shoma, which is... That's his place. His place. Yeah. Nepa wife. I don't know. like that. But she does say, I think, is this where she says, you know, who said, you know,

everybody gets a little bit of help or whatever? No, she said that like earlier. She said in the beginning, okay. But that was in reference to him helping her. Yeah. And, you know, looks like he's still helping you. My problem is that she spent so much time talking about how all the things in life, you know, I knew from a young age that I wanted to be rich. Crazy thing to say. Everybody fucking at a young age is like, I would like to have loads and loads of money. I want to be rich. A million dollars is a crazy number. Let's see how I. high we can go. Everybody thinks that. But she spent so much time. Yeah, exactly. She spent so much time talking about all of the things

that she has and where she is in life. When we get to her husband, she only talks about the age disparity. Yeah. What's he up to? I don't know. I don't know. Where is the man? Is he a private dude? Is that going to be one of the things where you don't really get to know that much about it? The private people. I know. And you know what? A person in his position who's been there since what, she said the early 80s? Yeah. Maybe he should be private. I don't want that personally as a viewer of this show. It makes it tough. But at least talk about the guy a little bit more. Like, what

does he like to have for breakfast? You know? Does he build the buildings or is he a commercial? Do you love him? Do you love this man? Are you a gold digger? Just answer the damn question. Stop lying. But obviously, Julia owns a farm. So then, now we have Steph talking about farms. I guess she grew up

on a farm in Columbia three months out of the year, which is actually pretty interesting. I like that little tidbit. and the group is waiting for Alexia and she's MIA and that's Steph's biggest pet peeve by the way is people being late and tardy it's like okay we don't know you yet but we get a text from Alexia I run my company I run my husband's company as a tight ship yeah that's exactly exactly well done well done but I guess Alexia's sporting a migraine she hasn't left bed hmm Marisol sure Marisol picks it up immediately mm-hmm she's like oh she's with Todd yep this whole thing

she's with Todd and that sucks because now she's lying to the group now we're seeing things like this is one of the reasons we don't like Todd is that Alexia tends to act differently when she's with Todd and we like Alexia solo we love Alexia with Marisol Todd Alexia kind of sucks so I don't know like at some point and I know obviously there's only so much you can do when somebody is married to or dating somebody you don't like this one's so tough for me because we watched the scene like maybe two weeks ago I don't know if that was the first or second episode

but Alexia was at dinner with all of her friends and like torching Todd and like naming all of the things that make Todd bad. And it was like this little glimmer of hope where it's like oh maybe she's got to figure it out and then the next day she's like Todd's not that bad we're trying to figure it out I'm waiting for him the ball's in his court so I don't know if at some point

like Marisol sits her down and just flat out, it's like, hey, bro, you got to stop because he sucks. I don't think that's going to happen. I don't see that happening. I would like it to happen if there's no bad repercussions. Yeah. Because I don't want them to break up because I think they are great together. But we could get to a point where push becomes shove, where Alexia is just a shell of herself because of this Todd situation, where I'd rather have Marisol step in and do something.

And if it ends with, you know, their friendship being on the rocks, I'm okay with that versus, is Alexia just checking out because Todd's around. I agree. I agree with that. Lesser of two evils. The one biggest highlight of this cocktail event, though, is Julia, who is enamored with Steph all over, doesn't leave her alone, smiles and laughs with everything she's doing. Again, this is strange to me.

This is weird to me, and then when we get to the shower, it continues to be strange to me. It is very strange, but Steph was also laying it on pretty thick. Compared to everybody else? She's in like a new group and she wants to be tight. Because like her husband loves Martina. That's true. It could be that. Yeah, that actually really could be the only answer there.

But I didn't see her doing this with everybody else. And she was meeting Marisol for the first time. She was talking about Alexia. Her first thought was, I don't like people who are late and starts questioning her immediately. But Julia here, she goes on about the farm and Martina and all of these things. She was laying it on pretty thick. Maybe it's that. Julia is very, very susceptible.

to going towards somebody who's complimenting her. That's a good point. We've seen that in the past, where if you're really nice to Julia, she's like, ooh, I love this. I love you. Yeah. Equals Julia is going to love you.

Pretty much, I think so. That's a bummer because I don't know. I never had that outlook of Julia in the past. I know that she gravitates towards people who are complimentary, but not like a wealth hunter. No. And I know a lot of people didn't really care for Julie in the last couple of seasons just because she wasn't your cup of tea,

whatever. I always liked her just because she was quirky and goofy and you didn't really know what to expect from her, but in like the best type of way. Yeah, and she was always herself. Yeah, yeah, she's always herself. She was always very authentic. It rubbed a lot of people in the group the wrong way, but she never really kind of wavered from all that.

And then something happened in this last off season where she's just completely different. I don't know if it's the Martina situation with her going through her treatment, plus taking on the two boys, maybe she's just kind of had like a culture shock a bit where things are going a little differently and she doesn't know what to do, but I don't know. It's just, it's tough because I always liked her. And that's the whole thing. Any other housewife in any of the franchise, we would be torching them right now. And we're still trying to figure out what happened to Julia.

Yeah. It's just such a vast change. I know, it's night and night. Let's get to Julia's shower. And like I said previously, she's big on Steph. She called Adriana and said, hey, I want you to sit Steph right next to me. Yeah, weird. Yeah, strange.

Adriana had the right response. I put it in this fucking party on for you. I'm going to sit next to you. I'll put her across from you. Yeah, she can be across from you or she can sit next to Martina. I don't care. It was very strange. Adriana, good episode for her.

Adriana, she's having a good season. She's having a very good season. I want to talk too soon. Oh, we're going to eat these words. Yeah, I know. Without a doubt. He's definitely going to. I think we did this same thing last year at one point.

I do it every year. It's hard not to, honestly. Enjoy her for a couple of episodes. so she does something crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Alexia arrives, and she denies vehemently that she was with Todd. She's saying that she had anxiety.

She had a migraine. And then she tries to blame Adriana for adding stress with Todd. This is when I start to, she starts to lose me because what's the problem with Adriana? That she told the truth. She clocked it? Every single thing that we questioned Adriana about last season. We're like, is she just talking shit?

turned out to be valid. So she didn't add stress. She tried to open your eyes because if we know anything, Adriano wants to be besties with Alexia and Marisol. Yeah, that ship is sailing, but it's been sailing for a while. It's still in the harbor. I don't think it's, I think it's over the horizon, and she's just chasing after it in like a rowboat.

Like, come on. Oh, I meant from Adriana's perspective, actually. I feel like she's getting to the point now where she's like, all right, this isn't going to happen. It's starting to get over it. Yeah. But, you know, Alexia can still swim out there and get the ship. Okay.

too far away is in the harbor it's it's there but it is just annoying as shit and this is now another time where we're referencing something that happened last season something that happened in the show and I guarantee you this is just Todd speaking Todd is bitching about the show yeah sure he's bitching about hill how he portrayed himself right on the show and on the backlash that he received now he's complaining about Adriana talking about their finances which is page one of any housewife show which Alexia just talked about talked about, too, claiming that you rented your entire life. Correct.

Yeah. Oh, God, dude. I actually forgot about that. Yeah. Joey's dinner or whatever it was. Yeah. I just, I don't get it. And I hate when we see this from a housewife or we see this from, you know, anybody on Bravo where they're just making excuses for this piece of shit, like, partner that they have.

Yep. When they're actually a really good person on the show. Yeah. It just ruins everything for me. Especially when it's a guy like Todd. Yeah. Like, this is what we're going to ruin things over? He's a real Halloweener.

He is a Halloweener. And I mean that derogatory. Not a Halloweenist. Nope. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Fuck you, Todd. But Steph decides to throw in a little extra here.

This was bizarre. We hate Todd, right? But you can't do this. She comes up to Alexia, who she does not know. Yep. And says, when God takes out the garbage, leave it. You don't know this person. And I also don't get the analogy.

I do. Like, God. You think God's going into people's houses? We have a big garbage problem right now in Philadelphia. Massive. Massive problem. God's not putting that trash out on the street. I'll tell you that.

And it is still there. It is being left. So I think she's... We're blaming God for that? Yes. But I think she's alluding to this is a sign. Like, he's divorcing. Like, get out of there.

Yeah. But you don't know the situation. I guess she knows barely the situation from Marisol and like... She overheard some stuff. But that's a bold thing. to say to somebody you do not know. Yeah, I don't know. But Lisa, Lisa arrives and she stiff arms Larsa, smell you later, and Gertie is not around.

She's in New York City, so she's not coming to the party. And obviously, Lisa's going to feel some type of way about not getting invited to have cocktails the other night, but they're saying that's because of Larsa. Don't worry about it. And then Julie arrives and... Stephanie ran over to Lisa when she got there. I was trying to read. My handwriting is so bad.

Like, Steph runs to Martina. And Julia. Yeah. So again, is this a Julia thing or is this a Martina thing? It was odd. She sprinted over there. She sprinted over there and she said, please rescue me from the conversations that are going on over there.

I guess because Lisa and Larsa were kind of starting to be brought up and we're still talking about Alexia and Todd. I don't blame her for all of that, but it was just weird. She's laying it on so thick. And again, Julie is going to fall for that, no matter what it is. She falls hard for it. And that's her new best friend. it's dude i don't know this is a very confusing season yeah but the shower starts and adriana leads us off

with a toast as she always does so well and then we got to watch a scene from bridesmaids play out this is awesome alexia gets up there and tries to one up the speech while she's trying to one up the speech adriana jumps in and gets her she goes my friendship with julia began three years ago mine's over a decade everybody okay cool cool Okay. This was literally a scene from Bridesman. It was, yeah. It absolutely was.

And I wouldn't expect, I was actually very surprised when Alexia got up to do that. I was surprised that she kept going. I was not surprised that Adriana stepped in to then double up a little bit more. That was standard. Alexia getting up to go give a speech was odd. This is a weird season. It's a weird tug of war going on with these friendships, and I don't know what to make of it. I'm team Larsa.

Yeah. It's better to have no friends. Exactly. we get the poop in the diaper game and I have such a pet peeve when things like this happen or it's like clearly a joke and somebody like gags yeah like grow up Lisa gags she throws up he says it got all my Versacee ugh like ooh like that kind of line that's that's where I draw the line know that it's not poop yeah it's not poop guys handle it like Kiki handled it thank you taste it just taste it if it lean into the game and

and just fucking do it. Like, it's so childish to me that you see fake poop in a diaper. Yeah. Although it was very odd. It wasn't chocolate. No, she mixed. I thought it was.

She was mixed in a lot of weird shit. People had different diapers. Yeah, they did. Like, decipher what was in your diaper. Yeah. And it was never what you would think it is. Like, sometimes you would make it into like a dessert maybe. Maybe it's brownie batter.

I don't know. That would have been funnier. Instead, it was like fucking... Peanuts and corn and like... Peanuts and corn with mixed. with, like, sage and brown beef. It was like, shit you would find in shit. Yeah.

No, she actually, I think that's the approach that she took. She's like, this is what babies eat, and this is how it works. Like, I don't think babies eat corn necessarily. Not a tough one to digest. Not off the cob, I don't think. There's no nutritional value to corn, so it would be worthless. Yeah, I'm not going to continue that conversation. But, like, the way that Adriana tried to approach it was, well, yeah, because babies eat a lot of this.

And there's, like, carrot puree in here and this and that. And, like, I tried to. to be a little authentic. It's like, you got close. It's pretty close. To put poop in there, didn't you? I wouldn't be surprised if one diaper had real. Just Alexias?

Yeah, oh, my God. Just had actual poop in it. Like one perfect log. It does not be surprised. Wow, this is incredible. It smells like poop. Then you could throw up. Yeah.

But Lisa throwing, they grow up, dude. I hated that. That really pissed me off. That's the kind of stuff that just, it aggravates me to no end. But we're going to play truth or dare, because why wouldn't you play truth or dare? at a baby shower. And the question is to Lisa, who would you want to have a threesome with?

I don't even know. Did she sidestep it? She pretty much sidesteps it. But Martina, this is more that we've gotten from Martina since she's been on the show. Yep. She chimes in and brings up a threesome, implying that her and Julia have had threesomes before.

And Martina's like, yeah, she's not that into it, but sign me up. Like, Martina's stoked about this whole premise. So then they ask, okay, Julia, who would you have in your threesome? Before the question was even finished, she said Steph. Before she even said her wife. Yes. She said Steph first, Martina second.

I guess if I have to, I'll include. Martina can watch. Yeah, but that was actually funny listening to Julia recap her threesome experience. She's like, you know, one person sits and watches. It's like, oh, can I get you guys anything? It's like, it's just an awkward situation. And the next question, we're going to truth to Larsa. This was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

What's the biggest mistake you ever made, Larsa? Probably that I'm too loyal. Just too loyal. Are you fucking kidding me? As Fabler said in Milan, too loyal. Too loyal? Like, the last thing I would use to describe Larsa Pippet is loyal. Just like take a little bit of responsibility.

Yes. Maybe my last relationship. There you go. And in too deep with Marcus. Yeah. And everybody can be like, all right, cool. And if somebody has some shit to say, then you can go after them. Correct.

There. You're bringing it to the table. You're at least taking some ownership of the issue. That was a pretty big mistake on my part. Nope. Too loyal. Starting a podcast with Marcus. Yeah.

Anything you did with Marcus could have worked. Really anything. But you decided to say that you're too loyal. Loyal to a fault. As we all know, Larsa Pippin to be. Loser. Yeah. Let's get to dinner, though.

And Lisa is... hammered clearly and she's making some off-color jokes about being friends with Stephanie because she's got money and obviously Stephanie thinks that's a little bit rude but I personally appreciated the honesty yeah I didn't have a problem with it emphasis on the truth I'm okay with it like there I'm gonna be tight with you because you have a PJ on call that's exactly what it is and say what it is now the second time that we've seen Lisa pretty wasted this season she's going through a little lot.

Is she? Her dad just died. Oh, I forgot about the picture. Was that a bit? If we didn't have a picture, it was not a bit. No, I'll turn it into a bit. But if we didn't have picture evidence

that I wouldn't know if he actually... What happened? What do you mean? What happened? I don't know. Well, I mean, she was in Milan like a couple days before he died, you know?

Interesting decision there by Lisa. Look, we did say when Larsa dropped that one on her. It's like, that was mean as shit. But it is pretty true. She's not wrong, though. It's not wrong. Not at all, but...

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Then don't talk shit about her while she's supposed to be grieving. It's not that hard. It's just incredible that she's able to go from texting, praying for you, to now saying, you should be grieving. You shouldn't be doing any of this stuff right now. And she says, like, she doubles, triples, quadruples down, and she's like, I would never stress her out during this time. Oh, okay, so you talk shit behind her back. Yes.

Like, that doesn't count. You know it was going to get back to her. Then you get mad that it does get back to her. And then she has something to say about it. And your response to her having an opinion about you talking shit is you weren't supposed to hear that. You're the problem. Now, you should be grieving. That's crazy.

You know, when you put it like that on, like, a storyboard. Are you team Larsa? It's a pretty good strategy. Oh, it's an incredible thing. She's so good at that. It's great at her, what she does. Because now you're sort of villainizing the person who was going through those things. Yes.

But it's all you're doing. I'm not saying you killed her dad. I'm saying, what I'm saying is that you put all of this on her and then talked behind her back. And then when she comes back, you're prepped. You're ready to go. No, look, why are you coming after me? You should be grieving. Then you have to question, like, how is she actually?

actually feels and that if she goes even further then you're like okay you were in milan a couple days before he died you knew he was going to go soon it's snake he's got it all set up it's incredible that like they fall for it every time i know and like that's the thing that i will always credit that's why i say that she's good for the show she's a great housewife because she's able to put that whole thing together and she always has a contingency plan and we always talk about how important contingency plans are already going to stir the pot larsa always has an out it's not always a good out but she is so steadfast in it that she, I think she believes it. She's unshakable.

She really is. It's immovable. And it's awesome too for her. Awesome and, you know, I don't think it's awesome. But it's awesome for Larsa because she's so unable to move from whatever it is that she thinks is right. That she never actually concedes

or thinks that she lost. Or apologizes. Or apologizes. Which would be a concession. She just never has to do that because she always thinks that she's in the right. It's a crazy brand of delusion. She does it very well. Honestly, that's what she should trademark.

Larsa's delusion. Nobody can even get close to it. It's like trades. Larson. What did I call her before? Larcissistic. Larsisistic. That's her podcast.

Really good one. I know. That should be her podcast. But we already trademarked. You already trademarked it. All those big things. So don't even try it. But Julia asks the group, and not to mention all of that conversation happened while

Lisa was like in the bathroom. So once again, and you're talking shit behind her back at the party that she's at now. So hopefully she gets wind of it so she can defend herself. She's getting so much closer to doing it to her face.

I know. Just inching slowly closer. It was almost going to happen in Milan. Now we're at least in the same city. Now we're in the bathroom. Next week it could be face-to-face. We hope so. We're like one group versus the second group

and you're talking from there. Don't threaten me with a good time. Hell yeah, brother. But Julia asks, the group who else is amazed that someone told Lisa why how is there any defense of Lisa finding out what happened yeah I don't really get that you guys all talk shit yeah why is it did you think Julia knew the Gertie did it and that's why oh maybe yeah no she's not that calculated I don't Julie has a lot of things she's she's changing a lot this year she's very

different but like I I think that's just something that she doesn't have I just don't understand why the concern is about who told her. Yeah. Why is that the problem? Not who has the balls to talk shit about someone who's at her dad's funeral. It's not like somebody shared news with someone else and then someone spilled the beans.

Right. There wasn't a secret in there. This was talking shit behind someone's back. Exactly. Which should just be a free reign. I don't, it's very confusing to me, but Gertie is the one that told Lisa because Lisa deserved to know. 100%. Larsa

I don't even know what she said, just starts to be like, no, you're not supposed to... Then don't talk shit. At the end of the day, if you don't want to get back, don't talk shit. Especially, you've been on these shows for a long time. You know it always comes back to the person you're talking about. So it makes no sense to me, but... We're going to have to be Team Gertie, Lisa, probably.

Yeah, honestly. That's where it's kind of pushing at this point. I know. It's pretty nuts. I'm okay with. I'm fully fine with that. I like to mix it up. I'll try a new allegiance this year.

Who knows what? will happen. And everything goes to shit because now Lisa's starting to cry and she's drunk. So now she's getting upset that the focus is on her and her dad. And she literally says, she's like, this is supposed to be about your baby. I don't want it to be about me and my dead dad. And it's, it's a, it's a funny scene. And like, not because of that, but she's like, I couldn't help a laugh laugh at it. It's hard not to. I feel for her because she's definitely going through it. But, like, it's fucking funny. It was.

She's just because of what she's saying. Yeah. Like, this son's supposed to be about me and my dead dad. It's supposed to be at the babies. This is about the babies. And it is. And this is the second event in a week's span that has been ruined by talking shit about Lisa. Yeah.

You know what it brought, it actually brought me back to, like, Jackson, Lala, talking about dead dads. Oh, yeah. Like, how dare you? Yeah, I forgot about that. Like, nobody's really talking about her dad. They're just talking about her. Yeah, I know. about her boyfriend.

I remember that. It's like, yeah, you can bring up the grieving thing, but even that's, like, kind of next to going after. Adjacent. Yeah. Like, no one's really calling her out because her behavior is different because her dad died. Yeah. So it's close.

I don't know. But the episode ends with a very ironic statement because Larsa is now upset at Gertie for telling Lisa. How many times has Larsa done the exact same thing and thrown somebody else under the bus to getting somebody's good graces or to simply stir the pot. And now she has an issue because she's the one that talks shit and she got caught. Bravo. Every year. A couple times of year, actually.

I know. This is just the first one. We've probably got three or four more this season alone. But now we're caught up. We are back on track with Miami. So you get two Miami episodes this week. But let's get to some questions. From Mosh Pit Goddess.

Why does nobody stand up for Gertie? It's very bizarre. It's so bizarre. I hope we're not going to get a weird production at it where they make her seem like a bad person. If there's not actual evidence of her being shady, like, I don't understand what the fuck's going on. Like, we need some concrete evidence that, because the other thing is, like, the only claim we have is that she's too much sometimes. Yeah. This whole group is a lot.

So that one doesn't track for, that's not enough to see the whole group kind of turn their back on Gertie. Who goes to bat for everybody else? Yeah. No, I don't really understand it because Gertie seems to be, like you said, the only one who can see through the bullshit and get to a logical standpoint and then at least try to help them out when they need it. Because how many times do we see Housewives on this show completely out on an island? Larsa of her own making, everybody else, they kind of just get left hanging out. And Gertie usually is the one tries to help them out a little bit. from DM Jazzwall.

Do you think that the show needs Nicole back to be the voice of reason and to support Gertie? I would love that. The show needs that a lot. Don't know if Nicole needs that. She doesn't. She doesn't need this show.

Yeah. But, God, we need her. I miss Dr. Nicole very, very much. Yeah. She was the final piece of this show's puzzle. Yeah. So I hope she comes back. There was inklings that she may return next season.

I don't know, but God, I hope so. Yeah, I think we need her back, honestly. This is really funny from Zoe Cudlow-Polet. Steph leading meetings was giving me a straightening brochures as the CEO. I always love those, like, let's just get everybody into a boardroom, and we're going to act like we're really going over something because you're really going to show what your company's doing on a TV show. Yeah.

Hey, guys, it's like that, remember the guy who did his, spend a day with me video. Ashton something or whatever. He gets up at like four and does the ice bath and everything. Well, he does the, it's the blue bottle of Saratoga water. Ashton Hall. Yeah, that's his name. Yeah.

And he gets on the phone. He's like, I'm going to need at least 10,000. Yeah. That's pretty much what you get in every Bravo show when somebody's like, I've got a business. Check it out. We're doing meetings. It's like, that's not a real meeting. Here's a memo.

These poor people that are just standing there smiling because they get to go be on TV. Yeah, we have a meeting at 11 in the conference room. What's it about? I don't know. And then they get there. It's just cameras. It's like, oh, okay. Okay, we're doing this.

Boss's wife again. Yeah. From Mama 2, Lil C. Do you think it's time to make Kiki more than just a friend of the cast? She's great this season. Yes. I think so. We've said we wanted more from her.

If this is what we're getting, then yes. And I wonder if she's doing more to get more. If you know what I mean. I think so. I think this is probably a trial run of like, okay, you're going to have more of a center stage role this season. and see how that goes, and then we'll put you as a full-time next year. But the other thing with Miami specifically, I don't know if they'll do that just because Marisol is a friend of, but she is full-time on the screen.

She's involved with everybody's business. She knows what's going on. She has opinions about it. We see her just as much as everybody else. We have individual scenes with her. We had her wedding this year, but she's been a friend of. And I don't know if that's because she doesn't care enough to be a full-time housewife. I don't know what the deal is, but just because of that formula,

I don't know if Kiki gets promoted because they highlight friends of. Yeah, that's a really good point. And we'll do one more here because it seems like there's a lot of the same questions in here, but pick the one that best depicts what we need to talk about. That's from Nerdy Bird 315. Thoughts on Dr. Nicole alleging that Marisol hired a PI to follow them, and that's why she left the show. We've heard this before.

I don't know if she specifically said Marisol. people are kind of... No, Marisol was brought up about the P.I. Yeah. At some point. Yeah, but I don't think Dr. Nicole said that specifically. I don't know if she did. I remember the P.I. allegations. She did a podcast like earlier.

This was last year. I thought I saw it on TV. That was also on TV. They talked about at a reunion about somebody hiring a PI. That's what it was. And looking into like Anthony's background and all that shit. But she went on a podcast last week and I wish I remembered who it was so I could give them credit.

But she was just talking more. about the PI and how it made her really uncomfortable and how she just didn't feel like it was necessary anymore. Again, I don't know if it was Marisol. I don't think that Housewives should be, that's a step too far. That's where you're getting into Louis Territory. Yeah, that's Louis Territory. Exactly. If you have friends that have overheard things, we always love a good rumor, especially when it's going to spice things up, fine. Hiring a PI is insane. Yeah, we don't need a dick. No, we do not. But yeah, that's all I got for the questions. well

stay tuned everybody I'm not really sure what the hell to make of this season yet I still enjoy it it's a great show it's still very enjoyable but as far as like predictions or anything of the sort

I don't know I don't know it's very confusing we're seeing like a 180 of what we're used to so that's fun it's a new it can be fun yeah it's a new glance at the show

as long as the Julia Gertie stuff doesn't just drag on with no resolution or maybe not even resolution. It's just like more evidence. Clarity. Clarity on what the fuck we're dealing with. Clarity would help. Would help.

But that's really the only thing I could see dragging on. Everything else seems fresh. Seems new. I like it. That's fair. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope.

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