Bros & Shows - It IS Our Effing Business, Kyle (RHOBH Reunion Part 3 Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

What's up Bros? We watched part 3 of the RHOBH reunion and it was a frustrating episode to say the least. Kyle takes center stage to answer for her season. And when Andy asks the hard questions, she r...efuses to answer any of them. We got 45 minutes of side stepping. However, if you read between the lines it appears as though she alluded to some things. Sutton speaks her mind in the beginning and challenges Kyle and Kyle's response is that Sutton hasn't been a good friend all season. Then Kathy comes out, we're not sure why, but Kathy is here. Sutton has a panic attack and has to leave the stage and Garcelle joins her to make sure she's ok, and the loss of both of them on stage means nobody else will press Kyle. When asked about Morgan Wade, Kyle responds with its none of our effing business. It seems as though when you're on reality tv it is absolutely our business... Between Morgan Wade and Mauricio, Kyle didn't give us much, but we break down the subtle hints here and there and we think we may know what's going on... All that and more!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, Joined as always by the one and only Skeeter McGeeter. What's up, dude?
Starting point is 00:01:04 It's a beautiful day to be podcasting indoors. Sure is. At least the windows are nice. Yeah, the windows. It looks really nice outside. I'm wearing shorts for the first time since God knows when. And we're inside podcasting because we are devoted to our fans. Darn Tootin.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Could just be outside, frolicing in nature, you know? Yeah, you could be. I actually froliced a lot today. Okay. I spent like four hours at the park. We had like two hours of softball. Wait, wait, wait. You're four hours of the park.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Yeah. And she's at the park now with Dev. Yeah. She loves the park. A lot of parking. She wanted to go to the park before they went to chick flay. That's fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:39 You got to earn that chick flay. You got to run around a little bit. You know, he's got to, I guess. You don't have to earn it. For a six-year-old, yeah. Yeah, you don't have to earn it. Just go play and then eat some chickfully. It's a good point.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I have to earn it. Oh, sorry. You dick. All right. Way to go, Uncle Shooter. You're the worst. Those, I'm sorry, but those ages, you know, well, five is actually different than six. Six and seven, I feel like are the same.
Starting point is 00:02:01 It's like, I never, when kids turn six and seven, it's like, yeah, they're six or seven. Then they get to eight, and it's like, oh, they're definitely eight. Six and seven, I feel like are the same. From a non-dad. Oh, okay. From an uncle. Hey, your opinions matter. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:16 We'll get to Rosen Thorne. I don't know if my opinions matter that much. Well, without further ado, why don't we just jump into, well, before that, we have one thing we had to talk about. before we get to Beverly Hills because we have nothing to talk about in this reunion. I know we're going to have to find something to talk about before we talk about Beverly Hills because there's nothing to talk about there.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Oh, good thing. We're good at talking about nothing. Sure. But the one thing I want to talk about is we have a live show coming up in May in... I got confused. All right. No, you were right. I don't know why you got...
Starting point is 00:02:45 It is in May, but I was going to say in D.C. And then I got held up. So let me try this again. We have a live show coming up in May at the union stage. I did it again. know why you're having such a hard time with it. Do you want me to do it? No. Okay. Live show, Union Stage, May 3rd. It's a Friday night, so make sure you go get those tickets for that. As I've said before, it's a big venue. We want to fill this place out, so please
Starting point is 00:03:07 bring your friends, bring whoever you want, even if they don't watch Bravo. People have told us that even if they don't watch the shows, they've enjoyed our live show, some people that got dragged there as friends of. So bring whoever you know, come on out, hang out with the bros. Again, that is May 3rd. It's a Friday night, Union Stage, D.C. Then we've got another one. in Boston on June 14th. That is at the City Winery, much smaller venue. I said yesterday and the day before that there was like 20 to 25 tickets left.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, you had no idea. We're still somewhere in that ballpark. Oh, really? I haven't gotten an update, so I think it's somewhere in there. Yeah, but sometimes these updates lag, so I really wouldn't trust it. I would just... 25 isn't that much anyway, so...
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah, if you're planning on going to Boston, just go get your tickets sooner rather than later so that you don't miss out on that show. We want everybody that wants to be there. to be there. So go get your tickets before it sells out. Anything else?
Starting point is 00:03:59 No, it's all we got coming up. Well, then let's get into our Rosenberg. Keep your eyes and ears on our socials for anything that might be popping up, you know? Why are you mocking me? I wasn't mocking. I was mocking me. You looked at me and smirk.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I know. I don't know. Usually I can hold the skirk. I'm sorry that I'm trying to keep everybody up to date. I'm sorry. You did a pretty good job of keeping them up to date on the shows that are announced. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I'm talking about the teasing when it's like, We can tell them, I think. We're not allowed to tell them sometimes. There's nothing going on. Wait, now we're doing it again. There is actually nothing planned yet. This time we don't have any... We do have an interview coming up, but it's not like super secret.
Starting point is 00:04:34 No, no. But I'm not going to tell you who it is. Now it's a secret. Keep your eyes on our socials and you'll find out. Hey, all right. The day of. Rosenthorn, let's start. All right, I'm going to start off with my...
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm going to start off with my Thorne because this is really funny. This went back to our VPR episode that aired yesterday. this one's from our YouTube from the VPR episode and the commenter said Sheena is not an idiot That's not very nice And I lost a lot of respect for this podcaster She said podcaster
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah no, me specifically Yeah not the podcast So that means she'll probably still listen to the podcast Just for me Just for you You're welcome Because I called Sheena an idiot Who is an idiot
Starting point is 00:05:14 So what are you going to do? That's the thing I don't know what she was hoping for But now you're just going to double and triple down You're kidding me? Yeah And by the way, it's reality TV a lot of these people are idiots.
Starting point is 00:05:24 That's why we watch reality TV because they act like people that aren't us. Because we're not idiots. To an extent. That's my point. Yeah. Have a camera follow me around. I'm going to do some pretty stupid shit.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So, fair enough. Yeah. We're also idiots. So idiots commenting on idiots. That would be my thorn, my rose. It's much nicer. And if you remember, and I think it was this at the end of the VPR episode, this has been a long week when you asked for the five-star reviews.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I don't know, but I've got a few of them too. You know, when full shameless plug or shameless request and said, please leave some five-star reviews for us. Because we got hammered on the Erica Jane documentary, which we're not covering. And we got one-stared, like, four times. That's why I want to read this one, because this is a five-star review on Apple from Mama Zuck that says, doing my five-star review, not just because Steele asked, but because I want to. Erica Jane is so overrated. Could care less, wait a minute, could care less about.
Starting point is 00:06:22 her all-consuming all about me doc oh and p.S you guys should come to Des Moines. Iowa plug. Well, Iowa plug. Yeah, why not? I've actually heard that I, yeah, you've been there, right? I've been to Des Moines. I've been to have a minor league. It's kind of fun. They had a minor league team. That was back like with my dad, man. I would love to, I would love to check out Des Moines. Everybody at one point in their life has thought about that. I think it was like eight or nine. Yeah, oh, Des Moines. I'm going to do as Moynes. Yeah. Sounds kind of cool, actually. I like that. Des Moines makes it sound like an exotic place, not a place in Iowa.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I mean, it could be. It's exotic to us. We've never been there. I have been there. It's exotic to me. Jesus. Whatever. Anyway, I thought it was really funny because we got hammered for not watching the Erica chain thing.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I know. This person gave us a five-star review, doubling down on the fact that Erica sucks. Yeah. But didn't mention that we were saying that she had a pretty good season overall. Fun. Yeah. See, that's a layered one. That's an onion.
Starting point is 00:07:17 We call that an onion review. Onion review. All right. Well, let me get into mine. I'm going to start out with this because I'm confused by it. This is my thorn. It comes from YouTube and it says, yo, bros, dot, dot, dot. Your opinions are stemmed from present day.
Starting point is 00:07:31 This episode is still so fresh after five months. Sheena is 100% in the wrong and as a strong fan of Lala, she is too, but makes good points. Katie is loyal and true as fuck. Did we not say the same exact thing? What? They said that our opinions are present day, implying that they're not correct. and then they went on to say everything that we said in the episode. Sheena is 100% in the wrong.
Starting point is 00:07:56 This person says, as a strong fan of Lala, she is also in the wrong, but makes good points. I think we said that as well. And Katie is loyal and true AF. Also said that. All points that we made. That's why I'm confused. I'm not going to lie to you. I had a really hard time getting past the first sentence because I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Your opinions are stemmed from present day. You can't say a past participle word and say present right after it. You can't stem from present day. You can stemmed from present day. I don't think you can. Anyway, whatever. Anyway, what the fuck does that mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Why'd you have to do this to us? Because it put my mind in a pretzel. Because the way that they word it, it's like we, I'm taking an issue with this. And then they go on to say everything that we said, though. Not even that. Like, we also remind everybody that it's only been a couple of months since they broke up. Maybe it's five months since they recorded, but you know, you agreed with us. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I'm not going to spend any more time on this. I'm confused. You're welcome. So after that, it's very much like your review or your rose. So I've got a few. I'm just going to read them all because they made me laugh. I had yours, but I don't need to read that one now. The first one is it's named Steel Asked five stars.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I love this podcast, but hate leaving reviews. So you know it's a good one when the host just asking for reviews has me leaving one. Thanks for the weekly laughs and spot-on commentary. Thank you very much. That's from straight out of Georgia. Straight out of Georgia. The next one is also super funny. This one is named.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Steele asked me to do it. Five stars from J. Carmona in 1985. You guys are great. That's it. The best one, in my opinion, is from Nadi Bala. N-A-D-B-A-L-L-A. N-T-I-B-A-L-L-A. Is it like Bala?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, I think so. Who knows? It could be. If that's actually your last name, that's a kick-ass last name. I'm glad you didn't say that's a baller last name. Oh, wow. I'm not surprised you didn't say it. I must be a little sleepy to miss that one.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You're still sleepy? That's a layup. Oh, man, I got a great night's sleep list. Oh, Jesus. I did that one over my head. I'm pretty embarrassed that one. Yeah, we're back. Yeah, the redemption.
Starting point is 00:10:14 But from Nadi Bala, this is titled Fun Listen, the Revenue. review still asked me to that's it perfect beautiful all we want that's all we need i don't care if it's a five store we're not going to do this at the end of every episode but every once in all we'll do it i only need to do it when i have to cancel out like when we get three bad reviews for something we did not watch this is when i need you guys to step up and look you did all i did was ask yeah and you guys came through that means so much to me i'm touched you guys are the best ballin Our listeners are calling. Oh, I hope it's not their name.
Starting point is 00:10:55 God, I hope it's their name. If you hear this, hey, edit the review to a one star. Yeah. It's not my name. One star, that's not, that's not my name. That's not my, I can go all day. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You want to get into this? Are you sleepy? You seem energized. I'm at the point of delirium. Okay. So that's where we are. There's either energetic or delirious. I have no in between.
Starting point is 00:11:15 That's good. Rumpy. I think that's pretty healthy. Sometimes. grumpy, yeah. Just sometimes. Just sometimes. Yeah, just sometimes. But anyway, let's get into, no, not as much as you. But let's get into this nothing episode that we need to talk about. It was so confusing. I don't know why Kathy was there. Don't know why we rehashed all of those things with her. But let's jump right in. We start out with the Sutton and the teddy shit. And this is more just about the vodka and the purse and the fact that Kyle's been relentlessly mean. I think that's the one thing I want to highlight from this beginning scene because Kyle get so open arms at the premise of her not being nice to Sutton. And she does what most people do when they get put on the spot. She fires back with when.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Give me evidence. I need evidence right now. Tell me exactly when this happened. Of course, Sutton can't pull it out of her ass in that moment. Unfortunately, I really wish she had listed some moments. But she says, watch the show. We've talked about this for a couple of years now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Even before this became a focal point on the show that they were discussing. Yep. Their interactions are always not great on Kyle. side. They always seem condescending that she's better than Sutton doesn't have time for Sutton and that she'd be little Sutton's problems. Yeah, and we're not exactly Sutton apologists, but we can watch it
Starting point is 00:12:28 and see what's going on. And we've been very confused for a couple of years now, like Steele said. And I would say, honestly, Sutton probably, we see her mood swing with Kyle all the time. It's probably because she's confused too. I mean, she brought it up tonight and talked about it finally. At least somebody said something, but we've
Starting point is 00:12:44 seen it over the last couple of years where Kyle is relentlessly mean to her in very weird moments and it makes no sense and it's just this is kyle and how she takes out her emotions on our friends we've called it out before sudden finally had enough this season and we saw that but she's still looking to reconcile which i think it's important for a housewife show to always kind of be obviously unless they try to break up your marriage or something which we've seen in other shows in something like this where it's like okay maybe it's a misunderstanding i'm still going to try to be cool with you i i can always appreciate that and look the hug-it-out scene i don't
Starting point is 00:13:15 I don't obviously think that Kyle was into it. The double hug. The double hug. And then you get to see Doreet and Erica's reaction on the other end. Like, oh, yeah, I know. Like, that's embarrassing. And it was embarrassing. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I thought it was, too. I thought it was a forced hug. I didn't think anything was squashed. They have since had dinner. That's the only reconciliation that has happened since the reunion. They sat down. More than Kyle and Doree have had. Oh, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:13:40 But I guess they sat down like last week, so I don't know if they're cool. Timing is very suspicious. Again, I know, we're airing the reunion And now you sit down But hey, who are we to judge? I guess it's our job Literally it is our job to judge, yep But Kyle does what Kyle does
Starting point is 00:13:56 And she spins it spins on You could have been a better friend to me And we get that scene of Sutton's saying to her In where were they? Spain. In Spain. That's right. Bartholona.
Starting point is 00:14:08 That's right. Bartholona, how could I forget? Because you know why? Because I was thinking of that. Oh, so you want to be? Did you say Abitha? No, I was going to, yeah, so I went Abitha. I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And then I was like, well, they don't say Thane. I think they actually do say Spain. Yeah. Oh, well, if they do say Spain, they were in Spain in Barcelona. And in. You're going to get a permanent list from just doing this. I hope so. Steal what happened?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Bartholona happened. Dorit happened. No, I can't stop saying Ibitha. But. Daffy duck. Anyway, in that church scene, we got. Sutton saying to Kyle, I could have been a better friend. I should have been a better friend.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And Kyle's saying, you have been a good friend. It's all good. It's squashed. Kyle brings this moment back up and pretty much says, I was lying, which is way worse than you're in church. Your whole thing was like, we were in the house of God. It's like, yeah, and then you lied. You're admitting to lying.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I think that's worse. You're not supposed to lie. You're supposed to speak the truth and then be forgiven for it. Yeah. Instead of, so look, I know it's like a technicality here. I know what you're trying to say. You didn't want to cause a scene in the church and disagree with her. But at the same time, you lied.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And I also don't think that you had an issue with it until Sutton decided to come after you at the reunion a little bit. And now you're being like, oh, well, I didn't actually mean it when I said that you were a good friend, bitch. Like, boom. That's that I mean, honestly, if you look back at the season, that was, I don't want to say it's a turning point. But if you look at it from after that fact, Kyle was so involved in her own shit with Mauricio and Morgan and everything else going on. and something was being nice-ish. I mean, she was still talking to Garcel about what was going on. And look, everybody was.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Nobody knew what was going on. There's obviously things that are going on with Kyle that people are going to talk about because Kyle's not talking about it. But she was still, at least at face value, being nice to Kyle. So nothing was really going to happen. So we would never know if you weren't genuine in that moment. But yeah, you're pissed off now because she brought it up on the reunion, which is what Kyle does every time.
Starting point is 00:16:08 But she keeps getting frustrated with these women for doing their job. job yeah every time kyle hates the show that's what it's literally coming off like that uh-huh it's literally coming off like she's better than the show or she's over the show and no longer needs the show if that's the case fine sail off into the sunset with morgan wade we don't give a shit but if you're on the show it just and i know this is so funny because i understand that they have lives and they're reality tv stars but at the end of the day like they're actual people all of that that we always say to give these people grace. But at the same time, there's a job description here, people.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. You signed your life away to be on this show. It is what it is. Like, that's what we expect as an audience. And that's also what confuses me, too. And maybe it's just fatigue at this point because we saw last year at the point where her and Kathy's relationship had just completely gone to shit and she had to talk about at the reunion.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And you had to film the last couple episodes where you had to sit down with Rina and Kathy, whatever. So maybe you can say she kind of drew a line in the sand last year with the whole Kathy thing and then obviously her marriage fell apart and she's like I don't want to do this anymore but she still did it last year like you still had to sit down with Kathy Kathy Kathy came out last year you talked to her you broke down you yelled at people when they took Kathy's side like you were doing it last year you can't do it this year but she didn't even go to that extent I agree yeah and that's that's probably the most frustrating thing about this
Starting point is 00:17:33 whole episode is obviously three-part reunion we're going to be waiting to see what we can say about Morgan what we can say about Mauricio and Kyle is just not not having it with anything and you can tell right away like now we're talking about the sudden issue of it all you get mad at her but you're not really telling us anything no they yeah it's just annoying like tell us something at least give us a little bit but we get this big reveal and it wasn't a secret to anybody kathy's coming out to join the panel why uh for what i'm i'm thankful that they didn't keep it a secret from us and maybe that was retroactive because Is they realized that it was stupid to even have her there?
Starting point is 00:18:11 I think that the reason that she's there was simply to go after Sutton, and Sutton is not there, so now her role and the show is gone. I really do. I think that that was the point, and we see that while they're sitting there, and Sutton has a panic attack that has to be taken off of the stage. Kathy leans to Kyle and says, I was about to go after her. That's probably why she left. And I think that's the only reason Kathy was there,
Starting point is 00:18:36 was to try to push that further because Kyle probably roped on to this. I'm so thankful that didn't happen. I'm not. Not that we didn't get anything out of, well, no, because I don't care. Like, that doesn't matter to me. I agree with that. All I care about is in this entire show right now is what's going on with Kyle. So if they gave us a half an hour of Kathy and Sutton going back and forth and then people
Starting point is 00:18:57 coming to their defense and just some bullshit story that Kathy's going to spin here and there and whatever, and then Kyle gets to chime in and she just gets to sit back the whole time and not talk about Mauricio until the last 15 minutes. It sped the whole thing up for me, which we still didn't get anything, but I'm still thankful. I disagree. Why?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Completely. And like I talked, Dev and I talked about this. The only two people in that room that would go after Kyle effectively and call her out and call her out on the bullshit and be able to stand up to Kathy, not that they're not scared of Kathy,
Starting point is 00:19:24 but they will have an opinion is Garcell and Sutton. There's the only two there that will do that. Crystal will, but I don't think she will without any support on the couch. And if you don't have Sutton and Garcell there, Kyle is going to be able to walk through this Because she's got Erica next to her She's got Dorete next to her
Starting point is 00:19:41 And she's got Crystal on the other side And Anna Marie So nobody's going to hold her feet to the fire As soon as those two leave Episode 3 of the reunion was Nolan void Yeah You might be right I still
Starting point is 00:19:52 And maybe it's just a pessimistic view I still don't think we get shit out of Kyle We may not have I just don't think we I think she came in with that intention Of not doing anything And yeah you're probably right They threw Kathy in there
Starting point is 00:20:04 But that's Bravo. Why would Bravo want to do that? I don't know. Bravo bringing Kathy in neutralizes Sutton. If that was her goal to go after Sutton to try to protect Kyle, then you don't really have much of a show. Nobody really cares. I think what you have is the potential for a blow-up or a good back-and-forth
Starting point is 00:20:22 between somebody with her out there because Kyle's only going to do so much. I just think it takes away from the whole Kyle of it all. I agree with you. I'm just saying from a Bravo standpoint, like what they might have been thinking was, Oh, and I also think that when Kathy Hilton presents herself to be on the show, and it's like, yeah, I'm down. They figure out a way to shoehorn her in there. Of course. So I think that that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I think that they were expecting more because there was going to be other people in the room. Sutton and Garsell had to leave because Sutton got sick or had the panic attack, whatever. That takes that completely out of it. Now we just have a Kyle Pity party where she can say whatever and everyone's going to be like, it's really tough. We just want you to be happy. And that's the part that gets like pushed to the side. I guess is nobody here, nobody watching, nobody in this
Starting point is 00:21:07 room, no one's rooting for negative things to happen to Kyle. And I feel like it gets spun that way where it's like, I'm not talking about this shit. It's like, look, no one's wishing that the marriage is going to fall apart. Nobody's wishing that Mauricio cheated. We have been watching your life for 13 years.
Starting point is 00:21:22 You owe it to the audience who has been supporting you, supporting your family, been rallying behind you and Mo for so long. Like, yeah, it's super personal. It's super fucking personal. And no, you shouldn't have to share the details of like the intimacies of your relationship and everything going on behind closed doors. You shouldn't have to unless you signed a contract for real housewives of Beverly Hills and you are the
Starting point is 00:21:46 the main character on this show. I will slightly disagree with you. I think that you are giving Bravo fans way too much credit. I don't. I think there's a huge chunk of Bravo fans that want bad things to happen. Oh, that part of it? That's, that was the smallest thing that I said, I said slightly disagree. Okay. Are you looking for a movie review show where the critic is at the top of his or her game, meticulously breaking down and explaining exactly why a film does or does not work? Well, good luck with the search, because we're having fun here on Adam does movies. Each and every week, I hit the big blockbusters, I cover the streamers, and I even toss in some movie news for fun. Check out the show on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts, on YouTube, and hopefully we can do
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Starting point is 00:23:44 Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. We get to the point of what I was saying. That's all I'm saying is that there's not everybody's out there supporting. And from Kyle's perspective, like she referenced before when we get to a little bit later, she starts referencing the tabloids. In her mind, that's what's going on. So the more details that she gives, the more that people have to hold on to and then more articles come out and everything.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I understand it from a logic standpoint. I hate it from a TV entertainment standpoint. And it's not about us wanting to know, you know, where do you, like, yeah, where do you go from here? Nobody fucking knows. We want to talk about the things that have already happened. Yes. The things that have happened in the press, the things that have happened in the press, the things that have happened on the show that you were concealing from us, we want answers to those things.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That doesn't hurt you necessarily, and you can spin it however you want. Just give us an answer and don't shut down. I think that it helps her in the long run, because without responding, without giving an answer, all we're doing out here is speculating. Yeah, and you have a platform right now to talk about it. You don't do whatever you want. Mo is on Netflix doing his own thing. He's telling people everything.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He's answering the questions. That's the craziest part. You're on this show, and you're so nervous about this. stuff to get out because you want to protect your family, blah, blah, blah. Clearly, that's not actually a priority. One, because Mo's over here doing it on buying Beverly Hills. And two, if your family was a priority, why did you drag your daughters on camera to announce the separation so we could watch your 15-year-old daughter cry?
Starting point is 00:25:16 If you really do care, then why are they in- Why I'm so fucking confused? Do you care about the show or not? I don't know. Why are your daughters crying on camera if you don't give a shit about the show? You should have kept that hidden. Why couldn't you, if that moment, if that moment, if that moment, you know, if that moment, is a shareable moment, but you can't talk
Starting point is 00:25:32 about what's happening next to a bunch of castmates? That makes no fucking sense. I don't know, but we get into like the fear of Kathy a little bit and she actually I respected this move from Kathy and I think this probably went a long way with Erica where she turns to Erica and says
Starting point is 00:25:48 you really don't give a shit and Kathy's laughing at people, you know, like oh they say I'm like a gatekeeper and oh Kathy yeah, you're Kathy Hilton. Like you do. You are Beverly Hills. You can get people in and out of parties probably by the click of a button you don't even have to make a phone call just like they probably have a code word that like blacklist people from parties i don't know
Starting point is 00:26:08 yeah yeah i'll put you on the spot there i feel bad uh um um spumony spumony i like all right spumony it is spumony gets you off the list but the one thing that starts to come out of this from kathy being on stage and i was like okay like we might actually get somewhere if this is the route they're going kathy's the support system system for Kyle. Now Kyle starts to open up a little bit. All right, fine. Let's see how this goes. She starts to talk about the agency drama. We've never
Starting point is 00:26:38 gotten answers about this. Everybody wants to know about the breakdown between Rick and with Mauricio leading to the agency. We know that he used to work for the Hilton's company. He stepped away to start his own company. The only stipulation from Rick Hilton, I guess, was you can't poach
Starting point is 00:26:54 any of our agents, which he then did. There's a big falling out. This is juicy shit. This is stuff that we've wanted to know. All right, sweet. We're getting something out of this reunion. Episode 3 is not going to be a total wash. What happens?
Starting point is 00:27:06 Kyle shuts it down hard. I'm not going to talk about this. I don't want to talk about business. What do you want to talk about? What are we allowed to talk about? Nothing. Literally nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And that frustrated me beyond belief because Kathy was on a role. She was going to tell us everything. I know. She was going to tell us every little detail of that story. She was ready to go. And Kyle had to shut it down. Like, at that point, I kind of wish that Andy would have stepped in and said, look, if Kathy wants to talk about it, she's going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You need to sit back, Kyle. And he kind of let Kyle call the shots at that point, and that pissed me off, too. He did the whole time. He never once pressed her. He never pressed her. I disagree a little bit. I think that he did have really good questions, and he brought back things. But Kyle wasn't answering the questions.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And that's got to be frustrating as hell. Agreed, but we have seen him in the past push harder. Yeah. Someone doesn't answer. He told Jen Aiden literally, like, explained what being a housewife is. you're here to share your life. And he plays favorites. We all know that.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And I know that there's a hierarchy here. I know certain people get different kinds of treatment. I get that. And we all know that. It is what it is. At the same time, if you're watching this transpire, it's like, dude,
Starting point is 00:28:14 you asked her the question. She said, it's none of your fucking business. You can't in that moment say, it kind of is our business. Yeah, you have to press at that point. Yep. That was when you explained to her
Starting point is 00:28:22 or what a TV show is. Yeah, that was my biggest issue. I didn't understand why there wasn't more of... I think it caught every. everybody off guard when she did that. I don't, she yelled, like, it's none of your fucking, first off. She was like, that is a sign. That is a sign that you do need to press more.
Starting point is 00:28:35 If she got that angry at that question, you should be pressing more. Everybody else went silent. Yeah. And maybe you're right. Maybe if Sutton and Garcel were there, they could have had a comment or something and they could have pushed. Yeah, it is really shitty that we lost the two of them. Yeah, because Sutton especially, she was on a role.
Starting point is 00:28:51 She was at least asking some hard questions and not being afraid to be like, whoa, whoa, that's not right. Or challenge Kyle. nobody else is not one other person is so by losing that i feel that we lost this whole episode this episode sucked yeah the episode was a terrible and this is what happens with three-partners but that and that's what happens we just keep waiting and we wait and we wait and then nothing happens and we're frustrated yep and here we are talking about it we find out quickly how they reconnected great cool like we don't wish for families to be separated from one another
Starting point is 00:29:23 but why this has nothing to do with this season we didn't talk about about this, this season. Kathy really didn't come up much this season. We had seen in social media that they have become friends again, that they're hanging out again. I feel like Bravo was also afraid that they didn't have enough shit for three episodes. I think that's true because during this episode, how many flashbacks did we get?
Starting point is 00:29:46 We had like 30 second montages. We started probably longer. The Kathy one was definitely longer. And they kept going back to, they went all the way back to 2012, 2013, and started digging into that. And it's like, okay, yeah, I, you know, we appreciate the context, especially you and I do because, you know, we didn't go all the way back to watch everything.
Starting point is 00:30:03 But we do know all of that. For the most part. We're pretty familiar. All of it. All of it. Do you remember this? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:30:09 No. Well, luckily, we can just look it up real quick. I mean, like, yeah, I knew that. Yeah, I knew that. You know, a couple of bros. Yeah. Cliff notes. But yeah, I was really frustrated with the over, like, minute or two montage of Kathy and
Starting point is 00:30:22 Kyle together. And then they did the same thing at the end with Mauricio and they showed everything. It's like, we did this. We did this at the end of the season. We don't need to do it again. We know what's going on. Stop wasting time. They kept trying to figure out ways to waste time.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And if that's the case, don't make it three parts. You can do all of these shows in two episodes. And I know that would make it better. And I know that you can get a million for each episode, like viewership-wise. So yeah, you're always going to push for that. But fuck, man. But moving on, we finally... Finally, finally, are going to get to talk about Kyle and Mo.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Finally, we're going to get some answers because we've had to trudge through 18 episodes of season and reunion to get to this point to finally hear what the fuck's been going on, where they stand today, and what's going to be in store for them in the future? What did we find out? Fucking nothing. Honestly, probably less than what we found out in the season. Literally nothing. Nothing at all. Nothing new. All we get is this really sad montage, and Andy, the Andy's preamble leading up to this thing was so sad.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And Kyle's like, thanks, Andy. And he's like, sorry. He quickly goes, sorry, let's take a look. Because you could tell that the, let's take a look was on the teleprompter. He's like, sorry. That's got to be brutal. And now we're going to watch your marriage fall apart in real time. It was the most heartfelt preamble to a montage ever.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And the woman that's being scorned is right next to you. Yeah. Thanks, Andy. I'm sorry. Let's take a look. It's on the prompter. I got to read it. Let's take a look.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'm so sorry. Don't fuck yourself, San Diego. That's the vibe I got. But we see this montage of literally their marriage fading over the seasons, seasons, because we get the good times. And then we get to this season, and we're watching a lot of the bad times. And when asked, like, what happened? It's the same answer that we've gotten, you know, the kids, I've been working. we didn't have a lot of time together
Starting point is 00:32:27 all of the stuff that we've heard and the same exact explanation something happened that made me lose my trust and all of us are doing the same thing. He must have cheated. Yep, right? This is where it gets so fucking annoying because it's
Starting point is 00:32:42 it's so much easier if you give an answer here. But she even kind of backtracked it a little bit by saying, you know, I've gotten to a point where I just couldn't put up with it anymore and there were things that he's been doing that he's always done that I just couldn't deal with anymore based on where I was and it's like okay so did something specific happen or did you have some new like midlife
Starting point is 00:33:05 journey or reawakening that now you're looking back and you're like oh so he's been doing these things for years and I'm tired of it is it did he fucking cheat or did he not are you tired of him or did he cheat like that's all I want to know that's all everybody wants to know you can't lead us there and then not tell us what it is well all I'm getting from it is yes He cheated. Yeah, he, a thousand percent did. He probably has been cheating. That's what it, like, it literally sounds like that.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And she kept finding shit, and it got to the point where she, because she says, I tried my best to pretty much fake it until you make it. That's what it sounded like. Just go with the flow and try to get that spark back and the love for this marriage back because my trust is so shattered. Show shattered. Show shattered. Show shattered is my trust.
Starting point is 00:33:50 So I can't move forward. But the fact that she keeps saying this without an. answer and the trust is broken it was repeat behavior that tells me this is mo cheating has to be and you know what i don't even feel bad about speculating about it i don't either because we're not getting any answers so you and i are sitting here we're tired of it we're frustrated i'm going to go out and say he's been cheating for years and she finally had enough that's what it sounds like because then she's like talking about you know the rumors start to add up and you hear it's like this little voice in the back of your head and kathy jumps in yeah like a shadow of a doubt where there's
Starting point is 00:34:23 Shadows of doubt, all these little things. It's like, okay, but again, you're just saying that he probably did it. You're trying to protect your family. Wouldn't it be easier? And I don't know, but wouldn't it be easier? Wait, what if? You know, I think, I forgot where they were. They were in the sprinter van talking about signing contracts.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And Kyle was like, yeah, I don't always look at what they're signing. What if she signed an NDA at one point and she can't say it legally? That's actually really funny. And, like, before she went to the reunion, Mo just held up the piece of paper, like, don't forget. That's why she texted Doreet. Oh, she was afraid. She doesn't want to be in violation of RendeA. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:35:05 This would make me feel better. That would actually make sense. And you know what? I'd feel bad for Kyle again if that were to come out. So maybe start that rumor. That one will help you out. I don't want to help out Kyle right now. I'm pissed at her.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But it gets all the way to the DMs in Ohio, and they had a conversation about interacting with women on social media. And again, the. What she said originally is different than what she's saying now. And what happened? Because the specifics, you always mess up the specifics and make it murky. So we can't pinpoint what's going on. In Ohio, you said, Mo and I got in a fight about DMs. That's very specific.
Starting point is 00:35:40 That's telling us that you caught some DMs that Mo is exchanging with somebody. Yeah, you specific, no, she said women in Ohio. Yes, women in Ohio. Now, she said he didn't know how DMs worked. and I saw that women were DMing him but he wasn't responding then he found out how DMs work and then I would go in and delete them
Starting point is 00:36:01 okay but still you're not pointing to something that would cause you to lose trust you're implying that he didn't respond to these and you're mad that he was getting them period that's not what you said no hi it's not and when you are not matching up the specifics of something and it's two different stories essentially
Starting point is 00:36:20 about the same subject that tells me that you're lying yes i would say that what you were saying in oh hi because it was the beginning of the season you didn't have a whole lot of time to think about it that was the truth you guys got into a fight about him exchanging dms with girls now you backtrack and you try to protect him for whatever reason i don't know why that's telling me that you're lying now yes flat out lying because you don't want to talk about it that's what it sounds like to me and this is what she did the entire episode anytime it was something brought up from the past that she had said this season now it's got a little bit of a different take to it.
Starting point is 00:36:52 It's just all nonsense. It's all semantics. It's all changing the verbiage to try to throw us off the scent. Which also, you're in a much worse place now in your marriage, so that would tell me that you would want to tell us the truth a little bit more. Why are we saying that the things that were happening during the season when you were hiding all of this were you lashing out and you were telling the truth at that point in time? Like, if your marriage is on the rocks and it's complete shit at this point and everybody
Starting point is 00:37:16 knows it, you should be telling us a little bit more of the truth. Well, she's leaning on the crutch of I'm protecting my family. But again, if that is the case, then why is your daughter crying on TV while you're telling them you're getting separated? It doesn't make any sense. But we get to Mo on Dancing with the Stars, and Kyle says that because of where they were in their marriage, she was cool with it, but she wouldn't have been cool with it because she would have been jealous of him dancing on TV. But we had that one picture of Mo holding hands with his. his dance partner where they're going to eat, which raised a lot of questions, understandably so. And there was a lot of activity on social media for Mo and him in Aspen pouring champagne on
Starting point is 00:37:59 girls, going skiing in nothing, pretty much. There's a lot of shit happening behind the scenes. And Kyle's really upset about it. She said, I couldn't see that, I didn't want to see that, all these other things. Understand that. I totally get that. Except for the fact that you were in a music video with Morgan Wade, make an out of out in bikinis and touching each other and all this other shit when you were under speculation
Starting point is 00:38:25 from everybody whether or not these two are dating. Yep. So my problem is, if you guys are separated, you have an agreement, whatever, I'm sure it stings to see them with other women. Sure, that's got to be hard. I'm not taken away from that. But you can't play this game. You can't do that, well, I'm allowed to go in this music video because it's an artistic
Starting point is 00:38:44 choice that I had no idea about. You're telling me that Kyle Richards had no. clue what she was going to be wearing in the music video when she went over there? No chance. You're telling me that she didn't have a say in what she wore when she got there? They have to make sure it fits. There's so many different things. They have that bullshit scene of those two going over, like the
Starting point is 00:39:01 artistic choice they were making for the music video, as though Kyle had no idea that it was going to be this. There's no way. But all I got from this scene as she starts to talk about Morgan more and more, she's 1,000% into her. They're 1,000% going to date if they're not dating yet. That's the only
Starting point is 00:39:17 vibes I got. She was curious. which is fine. That is fine. It would answer so many questions. And I know it's a touchy subject, especially because it's technically coming out of the closet. There's a lot of things that go along with you admitting that you and Morgan might be dating. I respect that. And if you're not ready to tell people, sure.
Starting point is 00:39:37 But when everyone's speculating and you're adding to the speculation by leaving question marks all over the place, just answer something. Yeah. Give us something. And honestly, we had already obviously discussed the entire music video at extreme lengths because we had nothing to talk about when that came out. And we came up with the best answer and we moved on. And we accepted that answer. That answer is still true. Now I don't know what the fuck's going on because you're not giving us.
Starting point is 00:40:07 That would have gone such a long way if you said, yeah. And look, they were paired together for a reason. You go right from Baricio and Emma walking to the car after their date. And then you go right into the music video. So this is set up for you to say, yeah, if he can go out and do that, then I can go out and do this. And people would have agreed and said, good for you, Kyle. That's great. You're not doing yourself any favors by doing any of this.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I did, however, really like Andy throwing shade a little bit because when they started talking about Morgan, Kyle had said, well, Morgan's never watched the show before. Andy's face was like, yeah, pissed. She doesn't watch my show. Come on. Bullshit. 30 seconds later, it was, well, you know, she's got to be happy because I feel like you kind of made her a household. name on this show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I love that. But he's not wrong. No, he's not wrong at all. If you want to sit there and tell me for two seconds that Morgan Wade has too much artistic integrity to want to get the pull that came from this show, bull shit. Yeah. She 100% knew what she was getting into. She 100% knew the publicity that Kyle Richards would get for her and her music.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'm not saying that their connection's not real. I'm not taking away from that. but if you don't think that this was self-serving, that's ludicrous. Of course she knew that this would help her music career. She doesn't want the scrutiny. She probably didn't, but now she's probably like, hmm, my listens on Spotify and across all media platforms are probably up 100%. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:34 If not more. That music video probably has quite a few million views. Yes. And again. Thank you, Beverly Hills. That's all I'm saying. So, yeah, I thought that was funny for Kyle to unknowingly take a dig at Andy end the show once again.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I love it when Andy gets offended, though. And, yeah, he just gets a little bitchy. He gets a little bitchy and he comes right back. Well, we turned her into a household thing. Nobody knew who the fuck she was before this. What about now? And that's the other thing. She has critically acclaimed music.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Look, I think Morgan Wade is a very talented person. No one knew who the fuck she was before this. Wow. Okay. That's a me take. I listen to country music. I know, but never heard of her before this. I'm just being honest.
Starting point is 00:42:11 A little sassy. I'm just being honest. No one knew who you were. Now they do. I like it. You're welcome. Do more of that. Thank you, Andy Cohen.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Stop doing this. No, I thought that you were... You're usually so respectful and you're like, well, you know, she's a beautiful musician. She's a great musician. She is a great musician. But usually you don't throw in the dig. I like the dig. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:42:30 You need to get a little sassy. I am. But you keep doing this. Why? Stop. I want you to be sassy. I got it. Let it out.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Are we done? Sass queen? Yeah. Are we done now? Jesus Christ. The last. thing that I wanted to talk about and it's more to this point everyone else on the show thinks so everyone else thinks that they were dating or have been dating they literally ask everybody
Starting point is 00:42:56 in the room the only person and it was even funnier because I forgot she was there yeah they bring Ann Marie into it like what do you think because you said she found somebody who loves her or shares their love or whatever cryptic fucking way she said it and Ann Marie's like no I just you know when you find somebody that's like a super cool friend and you like or get super close like so afraid to just say whatever bro can't sit in the after show and say i feel like she found somebody who makes her feel loved yeah that's what she said and then come back and say well as a friend as you guys know what the fuck's going on emery you guys get it no no no you when the hell did you pop over to that side yeah where the fuck have you been
Starting point is 00:43:35 like it was actually a funny call about you i did i forgot she was there yeah forgot she was there because she doesn't need to be there nobody needed to be there for this we didn't need to to sit at home and watch it. And I was mad. I was mad. And it's even funnier because Dev watched it last night. I watched it today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Dev was rage texting me halfway through. Like, this is fucking bullshit. And like, people need their money back from watching this. Peacock, yeah. Like, literally, we got no answers. We got to see the entire season condensed into one reunion episode. Uh-huh. A bunch of question marks, more speculation, and tactics to,
Starting point is 00:44:15 to try to throw us off of the trail of something that seems so blaringly obvious now. And that's the other part. What? Blaringly obvious. It's glaringly, isn't it? Is it glaringly? Oh, that would be even funnier. That would call me off guard, yeah. Oh, let's look it up.
Starting point is 00:44:32 We need more stuff to talk about. Blaringly obvious. I kind of like blaringly obvious, though. Blaringly obvious is a combination of glaring and blinding. If something is blaring, it's screaming at you. Wow. It does have much the same connotations as glaring and blinding. It's a sound-based metaphor and less suited for seeing what is obvious.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I like that. At least I'm not an idiot. No, that's, I didn't know that was a word, but I'm going to start using that word. Yeah, there you are. Well, I knew blaring was a word, actually. I'm pleasantly loud and penetrating. So, yeah, it's blaringly obvious. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:05 All right. I like it. Nice. But to my point, the point I was trying to make. Read a definition on a podcast. Nice. Webster's Dictionary defines it as, no. We need to fill time here.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Exactly. Now we're just stalling. But I actually do have a point about the show, and that is, with all of these hints, with all of these sidesteps you're taking, I feel like you're giving us an answer. And that is, you know, when Kyle says, you know, maybe to the prospect of dating Morgan Wade and says that Morgan's hot and says all of these other things that, like, she's curious. and alluding to it. I feel like you've given us enough of an answer to where we all understand where this could potentially go.
Starting point is 00:45:51 So if it had gone there, or if there was more of a romantic relationship here, or answers about Moe and your marriage because you tiptoed around it enough, again, we're all like, okay, well, he definitely cheated based on what you're saying. Oh, you're definitely either going to be with Morgan or I've already been with Morgan based on what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:46:09 So wouldn't it do, Kyle, so many more favors to be forthright about some of the, these things and just flat out say it rather than tiptoe around it and do you shoot a magout or feel as though she owes the audience who have been supporting her throughout 13 seasons of this show do you think that she did them a disservice by fucking skating around it and saying flat out it's nobody's fucking business yeah i mean absolutely she definitely did the viewers a disservice but i think more than that she did herself of the service yeah because people are pissed at her and you are not in a position to be pissed at if everything is how
Starting point is 00:46:43 we're thinking it is where you've been going through this marriage and all of these rumors of Moe cheating over the years have come to a head and he has been cheating this entire time and you finally lost it and had enough of it. We should be supporting you. You should be looking for us to support you. Instead, you're turtling and hiding and blaming or rather using the excuse of I don't want to drag my family into this. Like Moe brought your family into this. And Moe's talking about it. Moe's talking about it. You're going to let him go talk about it and tell his side of the story, while people are getting frustrated with you for not talking
Starting point is 00:47:14 about it, they're going to turn to Mo and be like, at least we're getting answers from him. Oh, fuck. I know. No. What? Oh, no. Oh, no. What? This is going to get my tinfoil hat on. Okay. Put it on. So what if, because we know that Kyle does things for the show. She is show forward.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Right? The text to Dorit. Yeah, yeah. She puts things in motion. So just stew with me in the stew for a second. Yeah. It's doing this too. So her and Mo, regardless of what the romantic relationship looks like, are still a partnership as far as she's protecting him by not saying what's going on. And that was her emphasis the whole season. I take care of my family.
Starting point is 00:47:54 She said in this episode, I take care of my family, family first, all that stuff. Do you think that these two had a conversation? Mo starting his show, that show does well. It's better for the family. I'm not going to say anything. You go out, blow it up. Tell them everything. because then next season on Beverly Hills
Starting point is 00:48:11 is my turn to tell my side of the story and now I'm really going to get into it and defend myself from all the stuff that Mo has been saying on buying Beverly Hills all season. Likelihood of that. I mean, I could see it. I don't think it's going to happen,
Starting point is 00:48:25 but I could see it. I just, I don't, I think that she's not in a good place with Mo at all, even to the point of concocting that sort of plan. I don't either, but now I'm just, I don't think also, like, if Moe's company is doing as well as it is, what the fuck do you even need the Netflix show?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Because they want it. It doesn't matter. That's irrelevant. Because they want it. Yeah. They want it to do well. Yeah, that's, I mean, it's tinfoil hat. I could see it happening.
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Starting point is 00:51:10 in greater detail. And then we will watch it. Yep. Then we will watch it and that will be like the last episode and she'll be talking to Erica or whoever. Or is the surprise. Bryn is back at the end of the season for some reason. She's going to be talking to her about it.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And yeah, no, I, it's just unlikely. That's the other thing that happened because of this season, not being a good season. It opens the door for a renter return. People are already talking about it on social media. Well, they brought her up in the reunion. and that was definitely a test. Bro, she's not the answer.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Nope. She's not the answer. That's not going to turn this show around. We need people that are going to share things for sure. Rina didn't share anything. I would rather bring back Brandy than Rina. And I know Brandy's like, Brandy's untouchable right now.
Starting point is 00:51:51 But she would be better because at least she would just yell some dumb shit. Yeah, I don't know, bro. They need to take a look at everything and figure out what the route forward is for this show. It is not on the back of Kyle Richards. anymore. No. It's not. She was going to be the lead this season. She dropped the ball. We had Sutton step up. I thought she had a great year. I thought Erica had a good year. Did you not watch the documentaries? Oh, I don't even. I just, I don't know how this show gets back on track with the current cast.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I'm so tired of saying this after reunions for these shows about how we're not sure how they move forward. But they need to. It does seem like, honestly, aside from like Miami, which has been having a great season, a great comeback, and I'm looking forward to next season of Miami. Aside from that, a lot of these shows, I'm like, I don't know where the hell they go. I don't, yeah, it's a good point. I'm really curious how Jersey is going to do this year. I have high hopes for it. I feel like we have been getting better seasons from a lot of the shows, which is funny
Starting point is 00:52:56 that's just reunion fatigue, I think. Reunion fatigue, I don't think Beverly Hills was great this season. I'm not lumping them in, but Miami was great. Salt Lake was great. we have seen a resurgence of good real housewives shows because we went through a little bit of a run. They're in like the one-off cities too. Like they have to be floundering right now thinking, well, you know, we rebooted New York. Not a lot of people like New York.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Give it a couple of years. We'll see what happens. Beverly Hills not doing so great. Orange County is a fucking shitstorm. Yeah. So all your mainstays are kind of falling. Atlanta falling apart. Like it's gone.
Starting point is 00:53:28 It's dead. Yeah. Fuck. Thank God for Salt Lake City in Miami. Seriously, they're doing, they're carrying everyone else on their back and Miami's still not getting the credit it deserves. But hopefully, hopefully, hopefully we see this trend of good, I mean, we've had a lot of good seasons of other shows like Southern Charms. Yeah, there's enough to like fill the gaps. It's just, obviously it would be great if these shows would perform a little more.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And I think that's my hope is that since the other shows are doing well, you would think that at some point they'll figure out a way forward with these other Housewives shows. And I think they will. I have faith. I have faith in Andy, so we shall see, but let's get into some questions. From Michelangelo Ara Chiga, hopefully I said that right. Kathy and Kyle having only three fights, didn't it seem rehearsed? Are they lying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah, they've been fighting for the majority of the time. I've seen them on TV, so I don't. Yeah, this reunion was not about Kathy and Kyle fighting, so they're not going to make it about that. Yeah, exactly. from j drake 988 do you think kathy will ever come back as a cast member and do we even want her um not in like a full season she she'll come and go as she pleases she's gotten to that point yeah but she said she even won her not really i yeah she just always adds that like comedic value slash random wild card factor oh this is a great one from
Starting point is 00:54:55 taramore 2004 what is going on with kyle's mouth slash lips so weird to watch her speak this reading. Have you noticed that? Yeah. I think Diana Jenkins reincarnate. Yeah, I think we started doing the Diana Jenkins thing, and now people are paying attention. Yeah. Yeah, she keeps licking the side of her mouth. I don't know. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:55:12 That a nervous tick? I have no idea. I have no clue. Maybe she got some new lip gloss and it's just not working out too well. Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. From Mrs. Ashley Bella, do we agree she confirmed, be cheated, but doesn't want to say it because of the kids? Yeah, that's the vibe we got. Last one from Sal Bryant.
Starting point is 00:55:30 How does she get away with saying it's nobody's effing business? That's what a reality show is. We agree. I thought that was the most disrespectful line to the audience to say it's nobody's fucking business. When her business has been sharing her business with the audience, that's her main bread and butter. Yeah, look, that's grounds for not being asked back next year. I think immediately. You can't mock the show, text somebody right before a reunion to silence them about something
Starting point is 00:55:58 that we're obviously going to want to talk about, and it's the main focus of the reunion. And then when it comes down to it, you get frustrated and you yell that? No. It makes no sense. I don't get it. But they're gearing up to film again in April, I believe, I saw that. A quick turnaround. So clearly everyone's back, because we haven't heard anybody not get asked back.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And I figured that we, actually, I take that back. I don't know. Because Southern Charms. Yeah, Southern Charms doing the same thing in April. And we haven't heard. They did say that there's some cast shakeups, I think. Okay. But we don't know who and what and where.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah, and sometimes they announce those, like, as people start taking pictures of the cast, like filming, they're like, oh, by the way, newbie. Yep. I don't know, dude, we'll see. It's Beverly Hills, so again, people will watch it, and I hope that they are able to figure out a different direction because the Kyle Richards route is no longer viable. Has not been for quite some time. Let's think about some new ways to approach the Beverly Hills cast. You know, mix it up a little bit. That would be nice.
Starting point is 00:56:55 But remember to get your tickets for our live shows coming up. We have May 3rd Union Stage, Washington, D.C. It is a Friday night. Go get those tickets. It's a big venue. We want to fill that place up. So bring all your friends. And then we got June 14th in Boston.
Starting point is 00:57:12 That is also a Friday night. Go get those tickets. It's a much smaller venue. We've already sold most of them. So make sure you get your ticket sooner than later because it's still three months away. And we don't have that many tickets. other than that you got anything else nope good over here move on bros are out of here wrap up beverly hills we'll see you next season
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