Bros & Shows - It's a Jersey (Rhode Island) Thing! (Real Housewives of Rhode Island Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

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We get two episodes this week too, one tonight when, well, we're recording before because we got screeners. We got screeners, nerds. And then, you know, after the second episode, we'll stop getting screeners and we'll be like the rest of you. But we've got scridors for the first two episodes and we only watch the one. And this is still better than usual. Usually we watch the screener after it already airs. So it doesn't really count. We're still ahead of the game, even with everything else going on.

We just have to dump a lot of unnecessary info about West and Amanda and get into Rhode Island. We got to shift focus ever so briefly, but then we'll get back on task. Don't worry. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a. I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine.

Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host. Steel Russell, joined as always by Rhode Island Goats.

What's up, dude? Dude, welcome back to Jersey Island. We're back to Jersey Island. It's a New Jersey thing. It's a Jersey thing. It's Jersey Island. Dude, no one, I didn't even know there were other states. I thought it was just New Jersey and Rhode Island, I guess, but just Rhode Island mostly.

The line, I don't look down on other states, but it's weird that other states exist. What? I'm sorry. What? That's how he started this franchise. The franchise started with that. I don't know if that's good or bad. I don't want to be mean to Rhode Island, but is that like small penis syndrome, like the smallest state in the

United States is worried about other states even existing. It's like, ha ha, we don't, we don't go to this state. It's like, oh, we've got this superiority complex because we're so small that we also have to have big trucks and all these other things, which show off for everybody else. And we can't even look at anybody else. It's a small state syndrome. It's definitely the micro penis of the United States. It even kind of looks like a little penis.

If you really look at the shape of it. Yeah, a little chode. Yeah. It's got a little tip on there. think. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe you're right.

It's kind of crazy that a woman with a Jersey accent is going to say, I don't even know that other states exist. What do you mean? It's wild. What do you think that accent came from? Like to hear their accents, it's like, oh, we're just in Jersey. I know these types of people. I know these people well.

And I will say this, you know, we like to give the synopsis right out of the gate so you guys know what we thought. I really liked it. I was going to say love. I'm going to hold off on the love. I really liked it. I think that there's something here. I think the cast is solid thus far.

Obviously, it's super early. This is just like first impressions. But I enjoyed myself for that. It kind of gave me like what we want Jersey to be like. You know, not saying like Jersey at its peak, but like what I wish Jersey in a run of the mill season, I wish it was like this. Yeah. Yeah.

It's the first episode too, but I thought it was a good hook. It got everybody pretty invested. I mean, you have a. really interesting crew here for the housewives that we did end up meeting in this episode. There's a lot of different dynamics going on. It seems like a lot of them know each other. I mean, we got a lot of like middle school references. You know, I've known this guy who was dating this other girl and I was hooking up with him at

the tanning salon that he owned. Again, very Jersey centric. Unbelievable. Unbelievably Jersey centric. When she dropped the tanning salon line, I'm like, okay. Are we not just in Jersey? I don't know what's going on. Is this like a new state that I'm not aware of?

It's just like an annex to Jersey. I don't know. But I think that the crew along the way and the crew that we're going to continue to meet and get to know, they have a really interesting dynamic. And not a lot of them are very similar. So you've got like kind of checking the boxes as we go across, which is really good too. I was also a little worried going into this about the Dolores factor. Not that I don't love Dolo, of course I like Dolo.

But I was worried that they were using her way too much as sort of like the representative. Like, okay, hey guys, give this one a shot. You guys all love Dolo. Let's throw her up there. and we'll make sure that it's okay. I'm not saying we don't need Dolo. Of course, we need Dolo in any way, any shape, or form. But I think the cast is really good.

I think that they're going to do Numbies. Yeah, I do too. I think that they got something here, first impression. Obviously, we will save our firm review for probably episode like six, seven is usually when you get the gist. But yeah, I think they played the Dolo card. Oh, I always do that, huh? I know, I do it every time.

It's such an unintentional six, seven. Unbelievable. I got to stop. That thing, that drives me. I've stopped. I didn't realize how often I did it either. Anytime I'm referencing years, it's always six or seven years ago. I got to go five or six or six or seven or eight.

Not like, seven, eight, but, you know, I mean, who's worried about, who's worried about seven anymore when you got six, whatever? See, it's hard. Yeah, we're better than that. We can do it. Either way, either way, yes, we will hold off our judgment fully until probably around the midseason. Yeah, but I think that. If this is the capacity that Dolos in it, it's the perfect amount. And we need some episodes without Dolo.

You know, she needs to be sprinkled in sporadically where it's like, when you see her, you want to be like, yay, Dolos in this scene. It doesn't need to be like, fuck, why is Dolo in every scene? You know what I mean? And that's no shade on Dolores whatsoever. There's not. No, Delo Tanya problem, right? This is a new franchise problem.

We need these ladies to stand on their own. That family has a great year, year and a half ahead of them. Dolo and Molly getting married. We've got a Jersey, you're getting married. Well, Jersey reboot, but there's a lot of marriages too.

Frankie Jr. is getting married. So we've got a lot of weddings of the Katania family. We've got New Jersey's coming back. Of course, she's going to be there and she's on Rhode Island. Like, what a year for her. I know.

It's pretty impressive, honestly, which we love to see. She won traitors. We forgot about that. So she's had a good like two year, three year stretch going on. She's been very successful

since leaving Jersey. I can't say the same about the rest of the career. I've heard much of anybody else. Yeah, that's what I mean. But anyway, let's jump into this episode. Again, the franchise starts, which could, it's either going to be the greatest show ever or it's going to be terrible. If you lead off a franchise with, I don't look down on other states, but it's weird

that other states exist. That's just, that sets the tone out of the gate. What I will say is this. Once I got to know the ladies and we get to the end of this episode, I love. like that line. I'm like, okay. I see where you guys are at. Who said the line? Was it Liz or Alicia that said it? I think it was Alicia.

I think. Yeah, I'm trying to wrap it. As I said before. Yeah, it was Alicia. It was Alicia because Liz were introduced to after Alicia's first. So it was Alicia. And what it tells me after watching the episode and why I really like this idea for the franchise, throughout the whole episode, we're talking about how

exclusives the wrong word. But I'll just say exclusive, like how exclusive this state is, right? Like they've all been there. If you're not from this state, it's hard to crack into it. There's a lot of clicks. There's a lot of this. There's a lot of that. It is its own little world, which is kind of perfect for a housewife show because it's

all contained to this little state. So I like that first line now because I'm like, okay, like this is just, it's all encompassing. Rhode Island is this little bubble or staying here. Yeah. And not only that, we're also going to have with Ashley. who is an outsider. And we find out a little bit later she was on the bachelor, Bachelorette, Bachelor of Paradise.

She met her husband over there. He's from Rhode Island, but she's not. So she is going to be that outsider that's trying to break into the crew. We're going to see how tough it actually is to break into Rhode Island. Yeah, exactly. We're going to see it in real time. But why do we jump into this episode? As you guys know, especially with series premieres,

it's a lot of getting to know people. I thought they did a good job of towing the line of introductions, but still giving us a story, which is hard to do. I thought they did a nice job with that. First person we're introduced to is Alicia. Now, Alicia's married to Bill. They have their daughter, Selena. I don't know if they have other kids.

I'm not entirely sure, but we get to meet Selena. And we get to meet the family because the family's coming over. Love the family. Unbelievable. That's exactly what we need. What a whirlwind experience, too, because off the bat, I'm just focused on the Jersey accent. And then we go over to her family who's driving over with a camera in their car talking about how far of a ride it is to get to their house. And then they show it's only 15 minutes.

But meanwhile, you've got the aunt saying, oh, I got a pack of lunch to get out here. Like, it's what am I? Rhode Island is small. I'm like, what are we doing? This is Jersey. I can't get over this. I don't know what's going on. I feel like I'm in like some weird fever dream, but I love it.

I just can't get enough of it. It's sort of like when we started covering Jersey, it just feels like home. I mean, you get that accent. It's just music to my ears in a weird way. Yeah. And I think like the family dynamic, the parties and stuff like that. Like it just, there's something comforting where it's like, I've been to these parties. I've been to these like family dinners.

And like there's something just comforting about that. But listening to them talk is is so fun. And we get to learn that Bill owns a bunch of restaurants. Pizza Mama is numero uno. And, you know, we get the classic trope from the Jersey husbands where he's like, yeah, you made me do this girly pizzeria. Like, come on. Like, all right.

We're back. We're back in a good way, hopefully. but I can't get over and it's going to take a long time for me to finally stop saying it in my head. But every time they say Cranston, I just think of dumb and dumb, afraid of Feltcher from Cranston. So that's going to take over there. I think you were thinking of Brian Cranston, but yeah. No, not Brian. Just that, that line lives in my head forever.

But they moved to Providence from Cranston. Family wants them to go back to Cranston. As we know now, Cranston's 15 minutes away. So it's not this ridiculous leap. But we're getting the vibe of who Alicia is. All right. So it seems like her family's been in Rhode Island for a long time. Her dad had a bakery and a couple of businesses.

People know who they are. And now her husband owns a bunch of restaurants. They've been engaged. Sorry, Beyonce, because they've been engaged. And this is, unfortunately, there's precedents on this network for log engagements. Now, we don't know them at all. We don't know what the situation is. I'm not saying anything, any big predictions here.

I'm just saying there is a history of long engagements. It's a bit of a risk because you know going into this. You're going to be on Bravo. And there's a chance that your wedding is extravagant and it's beautiful and it gets featured on the show. So maybe a chunk of money comes your way to sponsor it a little bit more to make it a little bit better, whatever it might be. there's a chance for that, but it's a double-edged sword because there's also a chance that reality TV ruins your relationship and the engagement just gets broken off immediately. So I don't see that happening. It's only episode one.

I'm not going to put that evil juju on them, but it's always funny to see something like that. I agree. I agree. So that was the first thing. I was like, but not jump into judgment. And fam asks, have you seen Liz?

And we find that she's known Liz since birth pretty much. She's beautiful. She's a little older, which makes her nervous. And she's Queen Elizabeth. So let's go over to Cranston and the view of the coastline or whatever shoreline of that, where you have a bunch of normal homes. They're all big and nice, but like normal architecture. And then you just get this gaudy, Italian jersey as fuck house.

I know it's Rhode Island. We're going to keep doing the Jersey things. Just bear with us, everybody. They've got walls and statues and there's a pool and a dock and all. all this crazy, cool shit. I love that. I want all of the aesthetics. I want it to be overblown.

I wanted to be gaudy. I wanted to be all of those things. And Liz embodies all of that in such a great way, but also in a very unique way, right? We've seen this character that Liz is before on other shows in some capacity. Not to mention she literally looks identical to Dolo, but that's a different story. It does. Yeah. Now, the difference with Liz is she's got.

a different backstory. Like her and her husband own like one of the biggest cannabis businesses, according to them. We haven't done our due diligence on that one. But it's called Slater. I guess they started it like right out of the gate when, uh, we got legalized and they opened up their dispensary.

So I'm sure they have like, fuck it money out, out the ass. They probably have so much money, which is playing through on the camera. But that's an interesting backstory. And she's kind of, she's quirky.

but I can't really put put my nose on. I don't know what it is about Liz. She's very captivating. She is very captivating. Initially, I wanted to label her as the fire starter. I figured she was going to be the one

that was going to be very loud and public. I know. She completely quelled all of that pretty much mid-episode, but that's what I thought she was going to be. I thought based on the house, based on her backstory, based on her husband,

the way that she's talking about everything. She talks about later, her relationship with Dolo. There's a whole lot that goes into it. And I'm like, ah, she's going to be the fire starter. She's going to be the shit starter. She's going to be petty as hell. She's going to get things going and she's going to be able to hold her own in the ring.

She might still be able to hold her own in the ring. But I feel like once we learn everybody else's background and where they are, it seems like almost everybody's going to be able to hold their own, which is awesome. This is just going to be a heavyweight bout throughout. It doesn't seem like there's really any weak links. Even the ones that you might identify. Rosie could be. Yeah, that's not who I think, actually.

There you go. Kelsey? Kelsey. Kelsey's got some extenuating circumstances. We'll get into her. But I do think that there's a couple in there that you might think. But no, I do think that they're all going to be pretty evenly matched. And I really did think that Liz was going to be cream of the crop.

She was going to be the dolo of the group where she just doesn't fuck around. She's Switzerland sometimes. But for the most part, you don't go after her. That's the vibe I got from her. Mid-episode, I'm like, no, actually, I don't think I get that from her anymore. So she might be an enigma. And I'm okay with that because I like trying to crack a nut. I agree.

I agree. It's going to be interesting to kind of watch their personas develop on camera, as we always enjoy doing. It is funny that when the cat walked by and said, Ganges, I was like, oh, like, ha ha. This is before they said the weed thing. I'm like, oh, like weed in my stupid head. And then they said that they own the dispenser. I was, I'm like, oh, so it was weed related. Okay, I'm not an idiot. That's great. So I'm actually smart. Way to go. Steal nice job. But what I was not ready for and what we must get back to. and I hope we get back to it because it does seem like Liz has this

this reputation that people are a little scared of her, at least from what we've been told thus far. The way she told the story is very funny and very donchalot. Yeah, you remember when the ancestry thing blew up and everyone was finding out the, yeah, so we're related. Pardon, you want me to call you, you'll call you dad, I'll call you dad. Why? What do you?

The fact that we've run. And the kids aren't even hers. So she's the stepmom, too. So she's saying this in front of Bill's kids. Like, you want me to call you daddy? I'll call you daddy. They're all laughing. I'm like,

well, this is weird dynamic. I have no. It's enjoyable, but I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's a thing. They move on from it too. She says that and then just talks about something else, but not in the way that she seemed like she was covering it up.

Just like, yeah, everybody knows that we're related and married. But anyway, at least we didn't have kids together. Like, like, I guess, anyway.

let's go to East Greenwich, Rhode Island, uh, with Kelsey. I would love to know just the, what's the word? Dimension geography. Yeah, like where these cities are in relation to, I, I would imagine none of them are more than 15 minutes apart. Yeah. I think that's the entire state. Probably not.

And honestly, the way that we lead up to the scene and we start talking to Kelsey a little bit, Liz rides her fucking boat across, which is like, not a boat that I was expecting. I was expecting her to pull up in like a jet ski. maybe a cool little dingy, like something like that. Nope, it's like a boat they would use. The only way I can describe it is it's a boat that you might see in Vietnam. Like Vietnam War, they're just riding this boat down. That's what I expect.

Navy a sailboat. Dude, it's like very apocalypse now. Like she's riding across in all black. She's got like proddish sneakers on. Her hat flies off in the wind. Yeah, yeah. She's got the hat flying off. She doesn't go back for it.

I really wanted like a good little scene of her just trying to like circle. just let me just get around here like it just scoop it in let me get the net out let me try to do this they didn't do any of those things i think she may have just left it there which you know i'm not really cool i like that i like that move i'm not cool with that either the litter part i am cool because i'm just assuming in my head i bet that hat cost two grand and she's like bah fuck it fuck it okay i want to get back to the fuck it money i want to get back to big spending big parties big houses i'm ready for that in my life again in real house i'm ready for that in my life again in real house i wives and not watching it in Beverly Hills where it's so boring that I don't care. I'm ready for people to use their wealth as a weapon again. Okay. So if that hat flying off and leaving it in the water is indicative of that, then I'm game. I'm excited. Wait, so where are they meet?

I've got a map up right now. Where are they meeting? They're meeting in East Greenwich. Oh, boy. Which is across the water from Cranston, as we know. It's not. It's south. It's southwest.

So she had to go down a whole fucking channel to get there. How about that? It's not that big. I mean, as we know, it's not that big. But she really had to take, if she's coming from Cranston, she really had to get down this waterway. So that might be a good 10-mile ride, which is very funny. Interesting.

Or maybe they met in the middle. I don't know. Who knows? Anyway, they are sitting down to lunch. Liz knows Kelsey through her boyfriend. Liz, not Liz's boyfriend. Liz is married. Kelsey's boyfriend is who she knows.

Important. Extraordinarily important. Can't not stress. enough how important this is. Who's boyfriend it is? Yeah. So 4th of July, talking about the 4th of July, and we find out that Kelsey's man's not going to be in town.

You know, I don't worry about it. I'm used to it. So she's painting the picture. I'm like, yeah, you know, we've seen this before. Businessmen travels. Different folks. Right? And she's living a life of luxury.

She doesn't see the guy very often. She seems to be okay with that, at least in this scene. She seems to be okay with that. And that's just the dynamic. He's gone like five months out of the year, but the 16,000 square foot home has everything I need. My boyfriend's family is like one of the most prominent in Rhode Island. We're not going to see his face, obviously, for what we're about to find out. And when they met, it was sparks.

They made out for two hours straight, which sounds exhausting, but you'd teach their own. And he was the whole reason I became Miss Rhode Island. He really pushed me that last little bit so I could go and achieve my dreams. Oh, this all sounds pretty nice. Sounds, you know, if this dynamic works for you, great. But, you know, he's gone five months out of the year. And it's unorthodox. It's an unorthodox relationship.

I'm like, oh, you guys swingers because he dates multiple people. Oh, when he's in Miami, he's with somebody else. So then I'm watching her call him. And he's in Miami. And I'm thinking, hey, is he at that other lady's house right now? Or is that other lady at his house and you're calling him to check in? This is weird. This is, you know, and I'm not here to shame relationships.

Everyone, you live your life the way you want to live. your life. That's not my prerogative. It's not my business, right? But I got questions. Sure. And I think it's reasonable to have questions, but I don't know. I mean, it's one of those things where we're going to take her lead. Like, I think a big component of all of this and sort of what she says towards the end of the episode as well is that she agreed to all these things. She knew what she was getting into up front. She agreed to all of those things. And now she's getting a little stir crazy. So, you know, I guess it's been a few years. Is that how long they've been dating? I kind of miss that part of it.

Because I was looking up, if anybody has any reports on who this guy is, it remains unconfirmed as of the show's premiere. Bravo nor Kelsey have confirmed who he is. But he's apparently 23 years older, and they've got an unorthodox,

10-year relationship. So they've been together for 10 years, and they've had this, and he has three children. Two of them are only three years younger than Kelsey. So very, very unorthodox. But again, on shows like this, reality TV,

we know this stuff happens in the real world. open a relationship, maybe there's some agreement in there and everybody's going to be okay. I think very quickly we find out she's starting to get a little in her head about this. Starting to. I think this has been going on for a little while because she starts to talk about it. And she says, look, I'm at a crossroads. I hit 30 and I want more for myself. I want to commit a relationship with one person.

That's fine. If it took this to get you there, that's totally fine as well. And he is who he is. And that is probably the most true statement. Like, yes, you're right. He's not going to change. Like you're not going to suddenly make him want to just stay with you and not have multiple ladies. It's not going to happen.

But the more the episode goes on, the more you see just how much this is affecting her. And it's a lot. Like she's going through it because they're back at lunch. And she's like, look, I'm in this man's life forever long he wants me. And I'm not in control of that. And I was okay with that. but now I'm not okay with that. I don't know what to do.

She starts crying. She's like, I don't know what the right thing to do is. And in my head, I guess you do. You know exactly what the right thing to do is. But I hear you, sister, if I was up against having everything, literally, and having to put up with this versus I have to start from zero and try to figure out my own way. The one good thing is that you're on this show. And I do think this one's going to go at least for a little bit.

So you're going to be able to build up a little nest egg there. So maybe you will make enough where you don't have to worry about it. You can go do your own thing. Not only that, but she'll be at the public eye too. So you're in Rhode Island. I think she says in this scene that she's, or they explain that she's a former beauty pageant. Maybe she won something. She won Miss Rhode Island.

Yeah. So she won Miss Rhode Island. She's prominent enough where, you know, maybe you can start from square one. And square one for her is not going to be square one from, you know, somebody else who lives in a different city. So she'll probably do a lot better. for herself, but it's daunting. And the funny thing to me is,

I do wonder at what level going into the show. She's like, oh, I didn't think that I was going to have to explain this. And then I'm going to have to maybe she's watching like an old episode of Housewives in New Jersey and she just sees how people are like picking apart relationships.

She's like, oh, fuck. Is that going to happen to me? I'm not ready to explain what's going on and explain my feelings and have to defend everything I'm going through. I don't know if I'm going to be able to handle this we know after episode one she is not able to handle this i mean the lowest person in my mind the lowest person on the totem pole for the whole show is just poking a little bit and you're already rattled you're not going to be able to handle this i don't know how long this is going to

go on for yeah that's the exact same bye by god at the end of the episode i was like oh you didn't know that this is going to happen and you don't really know how to respond either because i'll save it for later i'll save it for later we'll talk about it later i'll save it for later so Let's be Joe Ellen. Flavors taper. Hey, uh, Joe Ellen and Gary,

uh, who I thought looked a lot like, remember Joe from the Bachelor? Yep. That's, I thought she looked like Joe from the Bachelor. I was like, is this just a same Joe?

It's, it's not. It's a different Joe. But she met Gary in high school. Well, you remember where Joe was from, by the way. Just throwing that out there.

Yeah. That's why I was like, is this, is that her? No, it's not. It's there different people. She got married very quickly and actually went back in time and

got married 10 years ago and had kids since that. Yeah. Yep. It's exactly what happened. It's the Bachelor effect. Everyone knows that. But she met Gary, her husband in high school.

He was a senior when she was a freshman. And she's like, my sister loved him, but I wanted him. So I chased him. We find out that she's probably going to be the shit stirer, because her mouth gets her in trouble, according to her.

And she's not good at keeping secrets. And what I've come to learn about this whole cast, and according to Kelsey, Rhode Island as a whole, everyone's a snitch. Your words, not mine. She's already, we don't see this too often for a series premiere. She's already at odds with multiple people. She's really at odds with Rosie before we even start filming to the point where when they hang

out later, it's like, oh, God, what's this going to bring? I'm like, I don't know. What's this going to bring? We haven't watched any of this yet. We have no idea. I love that because it shows how much they know each other that they have been spending time together. So at least we have that going into it.

It's kind of more of a congruent cat. where we're not first episode like, oh, how are you? How do you know this person? When did you move to Cranston? Whatever it might be. No, we're right in the thick of it right away. Exactly. That's where I want to be.

But it's finding that fine line of being in it, but still explaining who they are. And I thought they did that. That's the number one job of a premiere. And I thought that they did it pretty well. Agreed. But we learned that Joellen works in aesthetic sales. So like in the beauty industry, she's the one that will sell you and then teach you how to use like a microneedler or a Botox injector and stuff like that.

So that's her job. And they're eating dinner. I have to point this out. And I wonder if you caught it. I didn't need Gary slurping. No. I didn't like that. I didn't need Gary slurping.

That always happens to whenever I'm watching something, like if I'm watching on my phone or laptop and I've got my headphones in, I get more noises. If I'm watching on my television, I don't really get them. Or at the very least, I'll see the subtitle at the bottom and it'll say slurping, but we don't get those for screeners. We just get them for peacock. So I didn't, I shouldn't have noticed, but I think I was looking away.

And I'm like, oh, they're eating dinner. I'll give them a sec. I'm not going to pay attention to them in my ear. No, no, nope, nope. He literally looks at her with no food in hand. After she makes a sex comment, he's a hand. Like, come on. Yeah.

Dude. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that. Let's just don't do that. Let's meet Alicia, who is vacuuming up cocaine, apparently, allegedly. And I don't think it's actually coke. could relax everybody.

We'll know what it is, but, you know, I don't know what it is. May I said, what's the stuff you something out of her vacuum? Uh, yeah, yeah. Ajax. Oh, comet. Comet. Ajacs.

What is Ajacx? Ajacs is the same thing, I think. I think it is. I might have just dated myself there. Yeah. That's okay. I think I used Ajax back in 42. But,

But we get to meet Rosie in this scene as well And they're going they're moonbooting I haven't seen moon boots in a minute And we're like jumpy bouncy boots so Anyway they've been besties just for the past year Which we love a good best friendship like a one year friendship on Bravo Means that some shit is going to happen between that and it's going to be very entertaining Those like look at Southern Charm There was so many one year friendships on that show

the past two years and they have come crumbling down in the best way. Look at ladies of London. Like a friendship came crumbling down in one episode and they've been friends for years. So reality TV has changed things. That's so good. I love it. But Rosie was or is an anchor and a news reporter on, I believe was. It made it seem like she used to be on the on the like number one news network in Rhode Island.

And so all of weather girl or the traffic girl. think is what she said anchor to us i don't know yeah which you know maybe she's inflating a little bit but now she's doing those uh this feel good stories like oh yeah come support this small business over here in cransston and bring everybody out we've got a pet adoption thing and it's just like the in-between stuff when there's you know light newsday i think that's kind of where she is but she's enough that people know who she is and they can use it in a good way or very derogatorily by saying uh fucking weather girls here ah fucking traffic girls here now we got to deal with the ship. Yeah. And if you're 50 and over, you probably have a crush on her. And she says,

if I go out in public and somebody doesn't say that their grandfather loves me, then it's been a bad day. So anyway, she's married to Rich and they're BFFs. And he does like a million different things. He sings. He DJs. He flips houses. He's a jack of all trades, if you will. And they're moonbooting on the trail because it's good for your lymphatic system. Everybody knows this. And she is I wonder if there's old moon boots the ones that we used to get the infomercials from that had like you know what I'm talking about

that they were trampolines juice I think they were called yeah they're green and black yeah I wonder if those are good for your lymphatic system I don't those never worked I had though they don't you sink in yeah they didn't they didn't they never bounced did they it's like water trampolines water trampolines don't work

no has anyone ever actually bounced successfully on a water trampoline because I haven't. I've tried on multiple. Why would a water trampoline work when a water bed doesn't wear? Like you jump on a water bed. You just kind of like bust your ankles and just fall down. Well,

at least there's like a trampoline cover. Like it's the fabric and like what it's supposed to be. It just doesn't balance because when you jump, it just sinks into the water ever so slightly alleviating the jump. I don't get it. It's nice to jump and like land on your back because it's just kind of comfortable. That's nice. But yeah, there's no bounce to it.

No. No, it's what a scam. But they're talking about a little. picnic that Rosie's having for the lady. She's doing a segment on her lifestyle show, which aired on Saturdays and Sunday. She's doing a little picnic. So she's going to shoot the segment highlighting a small business in the area. Then she's going to have the friends come by.

And hey, Joe Ellen's going to be there. You think she's going to be nice? Alicia grew up with Joe Ellen, but she also doesn't know how to check Joe Ellen. So it seems like Joe is hard to wrangle in. She seems like she, she's going to be vying for the top dog spot. I don't get the. vibe because I did think that she's trying a little too hard. I liked her,

but I think she's trying a little too hard. Joe Ellen? Yes. I don't think she's trying too hard. I got a different vibe from her that we had heard from everybody else who she was. And then when we get to her, she's very, not very, but she seems somewhat self-aware.

Like, uh, yeah, I kind of put myself in that spot. Like she seems like the type of person that's like, oh, don't tell me any secrets because I'm going to tell everybody. So why would you do that to me in the first place? So I do think that she might be one of those people that's sort of, she's a bit of a variable where she might be trying to earn her trust back and she's going to do it in an over the top kind of way,

but she also could just spill your deepest dark and secrets in a very casual way. Okay. Yeah, I liked her. Like, I'm not, this, I know it sounds to me when I say she's trying too hard. I just, that's the vibe I got ever so slightly. I could be on a totally different page next episode. Who knows it's still too early. And again, most important thing is I did enjoy her on the screen.

But we're learning from everybody that she's kind of tough to deal with. And ironically, by her own admission, it's almost like people say that I am this way. And she gets frustrated. And then because they say she's that way, then she acts that way. It's almost like they're both causing each other to happen. I'm curious to see how that whole thing plays out. But we just kind of learn about the whole click that is this group. Like a lot of them have known each other.

Alicia obviously has known Joe Ferret. and some of the other ladies have known them. Rosie hasn't really cracked the group. And she wants to crack the group. But I guess Joellen is kind of the one keeping her at an arm's length because they were at Jo Ellen's house. And Rosie showed up with a bottle of wine. That was apparently a little cheap.

It's a cheap bottle of wine. So Rosie was talking or sorry, Joella was talking shit. Rosie overheard her. And there's some tension there. What we did. I think it runs a little deeper. Yeah. Go ahead.

Yeah, sure. I was just going to say that, you know, she's, Joellen is a swinger, apparently. So we'll see where that has to go, but not before Alicia makes a little comment where it's like, yeah, I'm close with Gary. Not as close to you with the sister-in-law. Uh-huh. Okay. So there's too much familial romances going on in the first 10 minutes of this episode. Now, like, is it because of how close-knit they are because they keep kind of hammering home, living in Rhode Island, you stay in Rhode Island, your whole life, you know everybody around you, you know your neighbors.

Does, is Alicia just referencing high school? Or is there something more there? That's where I didn't know. And I'm not going to jump to any conclusions again, episode one. I don't know for sure. So I'm not going to do that. It's kind of a brain exercise that I'm not really willing to do right now. But maybe that's what it was.

Or was that more like, I've. heard the rumors about swinging, I'm going to just kind of plant this out there, just throw that out, just to see what comes up. I think, based on knowing nothing, to me, it felt like she was putting that out there because there was history in high school. She does clarify that. Like, they had a thing in high school. And, you know, Joe did pretty much admit that like, yeah, I stole him from my sister. So it's not like that was this big shocking moment. But by bringing it up in this confessional in a ever so slightly ambiguous way, I would imagine there's some. rumors about it because as we find out at the end, rumors are afoot in Rhode Island.

So that's what I thought. I thought it was alluding to the past, but also a little sprinkle of, or is it now? And I like that. Yeah. I don't like that. The family's stuff keeps getting. No, no, no. I mean, when you put it that way, no, I don't like that.

But for everything else, any, any other nefarious activity that's alleged at this point, you know, just keep us guessing. Don't tell us everything right away. Ooh, it's exciting. Let's go to the picnic. Uh, where are my gloves? Come on, heat. Any day now?

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Talk about exciting. Yeah. We had to talk about Rosie's dude, and Rosie's man was a producer when she was an intern on the show, and now she's doing road-tripping with Rosie Woods, and she's doing Sharkoots by the beach, and Joellen Inconfessional,

admittedly doesn't like Rosie. And this gave me a lot of confidence, and it's furthered at this lunch that we're going to start throwing some good shade around again. That we're going to start really taking some digs that land and that are actually funny and kind of mean, but more funny. This gave me a lot of confidence for that because she pulls up the road trip and Instagram. She's like, this thing is 215 views, by the way. I'm like, ooh, shit. Because I know damn well that of all the things that may be set on this. show for its tenure, that line right there is going to hit Rosie right in the stomach.

She's going to go, yeah, my, not my content, you asshole. Yeah, I think she's going to, why are we going after people's careers? What do you mean? Exactly. What are you looking at my Instagram page for? Come on. I've been established. I was on the show for a while.

They gave me this, I know the way that she's going to spin it to. They gave me this creative freedom to go do my own thing so that I can produce it for the station. you wouldn't have gotten there, Joe Ellen. Come on. They trust me. Don't do that. I love that. That's exactly what's going to happen.

And by the way, I posted that on a Tuesday at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Nobody scrolls at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. They're working. Yep. I'm looking forward to it. And I love them to get it. My hands were tied by producers.

Exactly. I wanted to edit a totally different way, Joe Ellen. I wanted to go a different artistic approach to this whole thing. No, no. Bingo. Come on. It's a big thing. It's fine.

It's fine. But anyway, I actually arrives with a bucket full of munchkins. Ashley is Rosie's best friend. It's hilarious that Duncan gets a plug right here, and I would imagine that was a paid plug. But I have actually heard, this is,

which is random as shit, I don't know where. New England as a whole, but Rhode Island specifically I've heard is like a massive, massive Duncan territory, which is funny that it kind of came through in this. But that's apparently all you got to do in this group. Show up with a bucket full of munchkins.

And I mean, look, I'm going to be mad at somebody? I get it. Yeah, come on. What flavor? Oh, I mean, glazed or chocolate always? I think glazed is probably my favorite.

Powder is good for like two. I like the chocolate ones. Yeah. Like I have two powder. If I'm having much as if there's a whole box of munchkins in front of me, I'm not having just two. I'm not having three. I'm probably having four or five.

And I'm going to have a good mix. But it's, but it's going to be, yeah, I'll go back for more later. I'm just talking about like you go over with a napkin. Oh, the first round. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do love a munchkin. Don't bite it and then sip your coffee and it kind of disintegrates a little bit with your coffee. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what the chocolate one's good for for me. Yes, yeah. Same page. Same page. Oh, of course I dip. Who doesn't dip in much? Got a dim. I used to think that was just for show.

Like there were commercials growing up where people were like dipping their Dunkin' Donuts coffee. They always dip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Homer was always dipping. I mean, Homer was dipping into beer probably. But, yeah, they always used to do that growing up. And I'm like, ah, that can't taste any good. No, it's fantastic. It does.

Anybody tell you otherwise. Yeah, I think it's the bitterness of the coffee with the sweet of the donut. It hits very hard. I agree. Yep. A lot of public service announcements going on right now. Pay attention, everybody. But Ashley met her husband on Bachelor in Paradise.

And this is a true love story because they've been married for 60. years coming off the Bachelor. That they have to be in like the point one percent of couples. Yeah. And it's a different route too because there are, we watch The Bachelor a couple of seasons. Whatever they bring like the, the alumni back like here's a couple that's been married for 10 years after the Bachelor. They're the only one.

Like there's, you can go five years either direction for Bachelor, Bachelor, right? Nobody's married anymore. Nobody even got married actually. There's one couple in that realm that actually got married. We're going to bring it back. We're going to have them do all this. fun stuff with you guys to show you that you can find love.

What do you mean they were on season four and we're on season 56? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But Bachelor in Paradise, I think, is a little bit different because they already went through the gambit. Then they go to Bachelor in Paradise. They don't ultimately get paired up right away. It's not as weird and structured. You can kind of freeform it.

So I believe it. It seems like it was love at first sight. I'm going to let them go with that. Yeah. Six years. They're legitimate, right? I think if a Bachelor couple stays together for one year, they're legitimized, but Six years, this is true love, and that's the only way you can get it.

Now, we're sitting down at the table, and we get more, they did a really nice job of painting the scene of like the social scene of Rhode Island and what we can expect from Rhode Island and what it's like being here and the clickiness of it, how close knit it is, and all of those different things. And admittedly, it's a hard place to infiltrate. Now, Kelsey comes up in conversation. She's going through a lot. Joe Ellen brings this up.

I do think it's important to note who brought this up. Joellen brings up that she's going through a lot. He relied on him for so much. That's 11 years of sugar. So Joellen said sugar. Okay. And I'm not exonerating anybody later. It's just the importance of all of the information.

Rosie then asks a question. What's going on there anyway? You know, because I don't really understand. But before we get the answers we play, Never Have You Ever, which is a new spin on Never Have You Ever, which is a new spin on Never have I ever but stuff only guys with skinny weeners got it threesome joelan never have i ever been a polygamist that one comes from rosy and that was just a lead into the question of i thought kelsey was that like i heard there's a girlfriend in miami like does she have another boyfriend like there's a lot

of rumors out here like what the hell's going on with kelsey and her dating life it's an important question i'm okay with the question i have no problem with this yeah i have zero issue i've zero issue with any of this. Now, obviously, Joe Ellen's probably not the person to ask because she'll spit into something else, but I think it begs asking. You do want to try to find out what your castmates are up to. And if you've got these vicious rumors that are circulating, you kind of want to find out. Like, hey, even guys that like, I don't want to step on any toes here, but I heard some rumors about you. Maybe you go to the source immediately, like you get to the Fourth of July party, go over, corner Kelsey, talk to her a little bit about it. But asking Joe Ellen, that's

going to be your first mistake. Yeah. Yeah, especially because Joe Ellen admittedly tells everyone's secrets and shit. So that's another thing that's going to be interesting is they're going to be able to pit a lot of things on her. It's like, well, Joe Ellen said it, even if it wasn't malicious, but she did bring it up. Now, of course, she has no answer to this whole thing. And she's like, look, this is what I don't like about Rosie. She talks a lot of shit. And Joe says, like, this is why I don't like Rosie. She talks a lot of shit. And I don't like that about her. I don't vibe with that. But Alicia makes it seem, according to Kelsey. Alicia makes it seem like Kelsey actually has another boyfriend as well.

To which then I'm going back to the original Convo, the original confessional and being like, okay, you made it clear that there was an arrangement later on. You're like, yeah, there's a deal. I signed up for a lot of things, so on and so forth. Was it written into the deal that you weren't allowed to date? Because that would be bullshit. Yeah. Like, is this really an issue?

utter bullshit. That would be utter bullshit. And I guess, again, it's been a 10-year thing. So maybe when they agreed originally, she said, I'm not going to be dating around. I'm just going to hang out here. Wait for you to come back. I understand. But you should be able to tweak that.

I mean, what are you supposed to do for five months while he's in Miami with another girl? It's weird enough that we saw a call between the two of them. Like, hey, I'm just kind of hanging out here. What are you up to? I'm like, okay. He really want to know long enough. I guess, like, you guys have interesting boundaries. Fine.

But I agree. you should be able to date go ahead do whatever you want maybe it's like don't bring them back to my house which i think would probably be fair again we're kind of splitting hairs here and we don't really understand how that works we're never really going to understand how that works but i mean it's kind of fair for her to be able to do that it's a valid question you know so i'm sure we'll get an answer sooner than later it's just the way that they frame it in the scenes from this season is as though it's like a secret boyfriend like there is actually a boyfriend and we're not supposed to know about the boyfriend,

which I'm team Kelsey on that one. I will not put up with that nonsense, but Joe decides to check Rosie. And then Rosie fires back. She's like, look, I heard you talking shit about me, and I still invited you to my picnic.

You talk shit at your house about the wine. I bought saying it was very cheap. She's like, well, it was very cheap. And then you said that I'm evil and children wouldn't like me. I didn't say that to your face,

but that's how I feel. That was what I needed. And I was like, oh, yes. Yes, the only thing that could slam it home further is after she says, I didn't have to pay $1,000 for your gift bag, a good hearty shut the fuck up. And I was like, we might be back. We might be back, guys. That's exciting.

Yeah. The animosity was already built up and it was let out in the first episode. That's what I want to see. And it ends with Rosie in tears. And it lets start over, you know, you try to turn everyone against me. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What? Come on.

That was funny because she kind of polished. Like, wait, what did you? Never mind. Nope, we're moving forward. Everybody in, ready, break. Hands in. All right, cool. Everyone's invited to July 4th.

Let's have some forward to move on. Everything's going to be fine. Now, let's go back and see Ashley and her husband. As we know, he was on The Bachelor. They now own a coffee bar, coffee shop. That was bigger than a, yeah. It was big space. So I'm not entirely sure.

I'm going to assume there's lunch, maybe sort of diner by us, like a luncheon at this? Yeah, something like that, but they've got good coffee and they're the, what do they say? The number two rated, uh, celebrity owned, celebrity owned restaurant in, yeah, was a coffee shop or was a restaurant? Because I thought she's a restaurant, probably restaurant. Yeah. But then like a, hey, I don't like a semantics game with a coffee. I love coffee.

So, you know, if we're ever in the area, might as well go up and try some of the coffee there. I just don't know what else I'm expecting. I don't want to, I don't want to split hairs either, but like. Bon Jovi. Yeah. Jeffrey from the Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. You know, I'm not going to say he's not a celebrity.

I'm just saying Bon Jovi, Jeffrey. Does that speak to how good it is, though? I think it would, right? You know what? Maybe that's a good way to look at it. Yeah, that's a good spin. That's what I'm going to do. I like that.

That's really, I feel like we've switched roles recently. It's going on. Yeah, I feel like I'm nicer. Well, Ashley's trying to talk to Jeffrey. I love this. Like he's legit, try to get orders out. He's like, yep. Yeah, got you.

She's getting mad at him for not paying attention. He's trying to brush her off. But the whole thing is about the business because she's an influencer does pretty well for herself, according to her. She says that Jeffrey could also be doing that, but he didn't want to do anything in fluency. He wanted to have something tangible. So he started this business.

But their issue is that Jeffrey's always working. 100 hours a week. He's limited his hours a little bit, but it's still all consuming. And her big thing is like, dude, you're, you hate this. Like, you're never happy. You don't smile. You're here all the time. Like, there's a better way.

We could do something else. The range of emotions in this small conversation was crazy. It went from laughing, irritation, anger, laughing, crying. And I think it was all of five minutes. Yeah, it was all of five minutes. And it was just, it was the quintessential. The husband's not paying attention to the wife while they're sitting down and they're on film. And we get to see this.

And I'm like, please don't do this to him. Like, he is actually busy. He's not like looking at his own and ignoring her. He's genuinely working. He's making, he's making lattes, which is kind of tough to do.

And he's trying to get orders in. He's trying to thank his customers for coming in, making sure that everybody's all good. And then he came back. And he was listening the whole time. That was the main thing that I listened to was at the end of the day, after he was done his orders, when he had a moment to actually kind of collect him,

himself and talk back to Ashley. He knew what she was talking about. He responded correctly. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on with Joe, Joe, so he was paying attention. Joe Allen. So he's paying attention the whole time.

He's just busy. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I don't think there's any issue. Like, they seem, we got a couple scenes with them. And obviously, it's early, but they do seem to get along well. Yeah. And I do like how he receives things she says, though. You know, she's like, this is too much.

And he's like, look, you're right. You're right. Figure something out. So, like, they seem to communicate well. no issues there, but it was a very funny scene of him like, yeah, babe, uh-huh, like passing, passing David's latte around her head. Here you go, David. Yeah.

But before the 4th of July party, as we're setting things up, we're getting glam, all those good things. We do get a little snippet that's important to note because I do believe this is going to come back around as we see from scenes from this season. Joel and her mom have a bit of a strained relationship from what it seems like because her mom shows up, she felt the need to take a dig at her mom by saying, like, oh, you charge me to watch your grandkids, which I'm not faulting her for. That may have been valid. We may learn that mom was kind of a dick because according to her, she didn't have a great role model of how to be a mom.

Her mom was very hard on her, so they have a kind of a weird relationship. Yeah, the mom gene apparently skipped two generations and went straight to her, I guess, and skipped her mother and her grandmother. Neither of those people were around, but again, this just screams like Italian household to me. Like, yeah, the mom's still around. She's still hands on as a grandparent, but at the same time, I've got some, I've got some things to clear the air with you. I've got some issues that we can talk about at some point. Now that we've got cameras following us, I'm going to have a big hard, really hard conversation to have, but I'm going to do it in front of the camera. And that's going to be big. So, yeah, I agree with you. I think that's going to

come back in a couple episodes. It's funny you said that part because in my head, I was like there is a part of reality TV that does force some of these conversations that are therapeutic and cathartic. And they can be good. Yeah. I know. So that always makes me laugh. It's like you, she's in her what?

Like her 40s at this point? Joe Ellen late 30s early 40s? She looks great. Yeah, I don't want to. She looks fantastic. So that's not I didn't. I'm not tried to age shape or anything like that. She looks phenomenal.

My point is she's been alive. for decades. And this conversation has never happened her entire adulthood. But the minute you put cameras up, it's the first episode. We're figuring this out, Mom. I'm holding you to the fire.

We're figuring the shit out because look at that camera. We got to make good TV. That's the vibe I got. It was so funny, dude. Let's go to the party. And we get to see Dola, which, as we said,

it's always a welcome site to see Dolores. This anything that we say about her not being in this show has nothing to do with us not wanting to see Dolores. It is simply that we want to see this show able to stand on its own two feet. If this is how she's worked into the show, totally fine, totally works. Makes sense to me. It also gives you a, it does give you a grabber for the first episode. It's like, oh, Dolores is in that. So it makes sense to me all for it.

But she's friends with Liz. They met at a cannabis event. I forgot that Frank, is it Frank that's involved in cannabis or Pauly? Or is it just Dolow? I think it's just Dolo. I think that was her thing. I thought she was doing it with somebody. I mean, I'm sure Polly's involved, but

Pauley's whole thing was like construction and they were both. We don't know what Polly's construction in New Jersey. Yeah, Polly's whole thing, there was a lot of questions, but it was construction and maybe some waste management on the side as well. I think this is just dolo, if I'm not mistaken. I think this was like her big thing in the,

in the latest season of New Jersey, which is now, what, three years ago? That makes sense. Yeah. I'm not trying to take away from her. I just thought that Liz did say that too, that her and Dolo hit it off at a weed convention. And Frank was there.

That's why I was like, oh, so maybe they are. She mentioned Frank was there. I don't either. I don't want to take away if she's doing a solo venture. She's more than capable. That wasn't my point.

But I love that every confessional we get with Liz, she's fucking zooted. She is stoned. And I want that to carry through the entire show because she's very funny. Her confessionals are fantastic. But we're just getting more info. Like Kelsey knew Joellen since high school. Joellen hooked up with the owner of a tanning salon and then the owner and his wife.

She's a little bit wild. But we get the whole crew together. Ladies are at the table talking minus Rosie. She's not there yet. Let's get the important questions out of the way. Is there a beach in New Jersey? Yes. Yep.

It's called the Jersey Shore. TV show about it. Then Rosie arrives. So I'm glad we covered that. And the minute that she walked. in now joelan is trying to cover her tracks i don't think that in jo ellen's mind she thinks she needs to cover her tracks i think that she's just telling kelsey that rosy was talking shit to point kelsey at rosy to go get her correct don't think that she's putting together like oh i'm kind of culpable in this

as well because i was the one that broached the topic so interesting nuance there yeah it's sort of that that that line of thinking where i've got to an issue with who Rosie is and how she handles things. My friend Kelsey is going to see that the same way that I am. But I think that Kelsey's going to be a little bit more open-minded because obviously, you know, we get left on a cliffhanger. But I do think that that's how it's going to go where Kelsey's very hyper-aware. I mean, that's the one thing that we picked up in the first episode. There's a lot going on. She's in a very weird situation, a very weird relationship with her boyfriend. So now she's going to be thinking, oh, fuck, everybody's talking about this. The whole party knows about this.

I need to try to figure out where the source is, try to squash it, figure out exactly who I need to go to. And the first person that she's pointed in the direction of is Rosie. So that's how the conversation is going to start. But as we know, Rosie and Joellen are not going to get along. So she's going to point her right back at Joellen. And that's going to be a bigger issue because Rosie and Kelsey are not that close. They're not friends. They just met.

Maybe they haven't even met yet, but they probably had some things in passing. Joellen and Kelsey are close. So if she finds out and as hyper aware as she is that Joellen is actually the source of this conversation, And yeah, Rosie's got her questions and she'll get her questions in, I'm sure at some point. But she will go back to Joellen like, what the fuck? What do you mean? You're talking about me. You're the person that I trusted in this group.

Now that trust is out the window. That's going to throw her into an absolute frenzy. Yeah, and I'm curious how she's going to take that when she finds out. Is she going to be mad at Rosie for asking the question? Or she's going to be mad at Joellen for bringing it up. Or she's about both of them. I think both probably. Yeah, I think both is probably the answer.

But her reactions to all of this, her being killed. I mean, that's why they have questions. Like you get really upset as soon as it comes up and I get it. Like it's pretty heavy shit. You're trying to figure out the rest of your life. So like I'm not trying to yuck your yums here. But you know, she's like she gets emotional immediately when this topic's even broached. And she even says my relationship is the only thing that makes me upset.

It's like, well, you probably know the answer. You know, like I think you're. telling yourself what to do. And yeah, I mean, maybe even just like focus in a little bit more. Let's zoom in on exactly that. There are a lot of other things in your life that probably bring you happiness that are associated with your relationship, like living in that house, like having the means to go do pretty much whatever the fuck you want in those five months.

And yeah, you probably love the guy. I'm not going to question that. But the inner workings of your relationship and specifically with him having another girlfriend down in Miami, that's your big issue. So I think again, having the foresight of like, oh, fuck, I'm going to be on a reality TV show. I'm going to have to answer this. I'm going to have to talk about this a lot. It's probably the most interesting thing about me.

I'm not going to take away from the rest of her life. But it is the most interesting thing about you. People are going to have questions. It's how you handle it. And clearly she was not prepared for this. Yeah. I get ahead of it. And she wasn't.

She's so blindsided by this whole thing. I know. But when Alicia's talking later, like, that's where I was like, can you really get mad at at Joellen or Rosie because Alicia's like, I mean, everyone asked these questions. And Liz is like, who's everyone? She's like literally everybody. Anybody asks about this because everybody knows what's going on and it's weird. And we don't know what Kelsey's doing in this whole thing.

Does she have a boyfriend? So like all these questions seem to be bubbling up all around. So I'm not sure it's fair to like pinpoint one person. Alicia Borlein asked you in that moment by saying that's like everyone has questions. She's saying like, I want to know too. So. Yeah. the funny part of it is just watching Kelsey go through these range of emotions when the relationship gets brought up and the things that she's saying because she's clearly not not getting a grasp of what she wants to say or how to handle it.

She's kind of spirally because she's like, look, I'm a cold, comfy bitch. Great sentence. But when it comes to my relationship, I don't have to explain what I want to do with anybody. You don't. You're right. I agree. But you're on a reality TV show. there's going to be a lot of questions.

Yeah. So my issue is not that you have to answer. Hey. Yeah. And look, it might get tiring, but the way that we operate, if we spend multiple episodes talking about this and she's unwilling to share the

details or share her feelings about the whole thing, we're going to get a little annoyed with her for sure, but we're going to get annoyed with everybody else for continuing to ask. Like, just move on. This is boring at this point. You know you're not getting any answers out of her. It's going to be pretty even.

It's actually going to be a little bit shaded towards the rest of the group for not moving off of the topic. So you can take that stance. I wouldn't advise it, but you can take that stance. But again, you should be prepared. You should have some sort of story ready to go. And I don't know, maybe for the first couple episodes of the first couple weeks of filming, just grin and bear it and then have your breakdown. But don't do it in the first episode. You have to be prepared for this because it is the first obstacle that we have to overcome. I think that she just got so caught off guard, which again, I don't know what you were expecting. Like, of course, this is going to come up in the first episode. But

she she says like you know i don't know i don't get what she wants to know really yeah you really don't get what people want to know simple it's pretty interesting too like we kind of all want to be the first time that she's had to talk about this like it's very unorthodox i'm sure your family your friends anybody else in your life anybody who's passing by that knows about you they have questions how have you handled it in the past not like this i would hope i don't know or maybe she's at a point where now that she's realizing it's not what she wants, it makes her more upset to broach the topic, whereas in years past, she's probably like, look, that's our dynamic and I like it, leave me alone. I don't know. We'll see how it plays out. Joe Ellen goes over to Rosie finally, and

Rosie, I thought this was nice. Like, it's, it's kind of funny. It's like a bouquet of fireworks. It's the 4th of July. And she got her a bottle of Moette. Like, it's not the end of the world. I thought it was decent. But Joe's like, this thing. Yeah. So, this is a gift that I would give anybody. Yeah, which is worse than saying like, I hate this gift, but whatever. Yeah. Now, would you try a caviarina?

Yeah, probably. I mean, I love hot dogs. I love hot dogs so much. I don't really care for caviar, but I love hot dogs so much. The guy. I don't like caviar either, but I would, I would give that a shot. Yeah, I think caviar is wildly overrated, especially for how much it costs. But Rosie, Kelsey, and Alicia are around having a convo.

And it comes out, I think Alicia. She says, I know she came alone. Yeah, no, I know. I like, I'm okay. I like being alone. Okay, I like doing my own thing. And look, on day one, there were rules. And I accepted those rules.

And she's like, well, okay. And in her confession, she's like, I have no idea what's going on. I am lost. I would love it if she would spin it into that. Like, wouldn't you love it if you could just be alone for five months? Like, we don't, I don't have any kids to take care of. I get to just do my own thing for five months. I've got unlimited money to go spend.

I can do whatever the hell. I want. And then I also have seven months of being in a committed relationship where I actually get to spend time with the guy that I'm with. And then he goes away for another five months. It's great. Like, spin it that direction. That would be funny.

It would be really funny. We might get to that point. Who knows? But this is where Alicia's like, how, you know, how everyone's always asking about her situation. And Liz is like, who's everyone? She's like literally anyone, anybody. Everybody at this party.

Yeah. They're all looking at Kelsey right now. They all want answers currently. And Lizzie pulls a yogi bear line. What else did you say at that old the pick a nick? The pick and the pick and the basket. But Kelsey just, she's now spiraling.

And she's asking like, why is Rosie asking this? What's her intention? Or is she already saying things? Is she spreading rumors like this, that, the other? And again,

it comes down to like, they're out there already. So she's, whether she's the one. doing it or not. Like I think Joe Ellen broaching the topic is arguably worse because that forces these questions. If your relationship or your well-being comes up, the first question people are going

to ask is about this unorthodox relationship that you're currently in. So I personally think Joe Ellen's more at fault here. I'm curious to see where Kelsey is going to fall. Just us, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you on that one. But Kelsey just asked like, hey, what happened at the picnic? Anything I should be concerned about.

And Rosie's kind of playing dumb. She's like, what do you mean? Who brought up my relationship? She's like, oh, you know, people just like questioning things, but Joe Ellen's the one that brought up that you're going through a hard time. And I was like, she did. Yep. That's a good way to do it.

Just say exactly what she said. She said you're having a hard time. I had some questions. Is what it is. I'm like, that's, yeah. And by the way, that literally is what happened. Like, Rosie's not lying. Was there some standpoint of what she was asking?

Rosie had follow-up questions that were pretty specific, but I thought she did a really good job of being vague enough. Like, yeah, I mean, I had some questions, but I wasn't the one that brought it up. Or Joe Ellen brought it up right away. And I just decided to ask, like, hey, what's she going through? I've heard some things, but I want to know specifically what she's going through because I'm going to see her. Put it back on Joe Ellen without putting too much stink on yourself, even though, yes, we saw, she had a very specific question. She even referenced it while we were doing. Never, never have you ever. So yeah, there was some more shade to it. But the big issue is who brought it up? That was the question. I answered the question. I answer the question.

can't get me yeah no she she does a good job of sidestepping it i thought which is you want to see that early on you want to see how everyone's handling certain situations i'm holding out judgment for kelsey i think that this is probably a whirlwind it's the premiere of the show first few days of filming this comes up she's a little rattled so we will hold out judgment for her but the end of the episode pretty much just sets the table of there's a lot of shit that you guys don't know there's a lot of shit behind the scenes there's a lot of lot of rumors, cheating scandals. You name it.

It's happening in Rhode Island, and we're going to talk about it, which is very exciting. If that is the way that this show is going to go, we're going to start rooting around and figuring out what the hell is going on behind the scenes. I don't think we need to talk about an Epstein salt bath. Nope. Personally, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, you didn't watch the scenes from the season at the end of the episode. So I'm not being weird. That happens on the show. But, yeah, all in all.

I'm excited for this product. I think that they may have something here. We're not going to jump the gun. Believe it or not, we jump the gun on individuals a lot. When it comes to shows, we are pretty scrutinizing. We don't give it a nod unless we really think it's going to be something because we actually are very proud of our record currently of recommending shows. Yeah.

I was pretty apprehensive to watch. Not to watch it. Obviously, we were going to watch it, but to enjoy the show or to think it was going to be good because for whatever reason, Rhode Island seemed to be getting so much more marketing. I think it's just because it's a housewife show. And I think I was reading too far into the Dolo stuff. They started to announce, like, who's going to be the pairings in the after show a week before the show even came out, which I thought was very weird because we don't even know these women. So I don't know what the dynamics is going to be in the after show.

Typically, we don't even really watch after shows unless there's a lot going on. So there's a lot of things leading up to it where I'm like, oh, God, they're dumping a lot of marketing into this. They never market shit. all the other shows that we really enjoy, we don't even know if they're coming back. We don't even know when they're coming back. They just announce it randomly like, oh, it's on pause or,

oh, you can expect this in the next couple of months. This they see. Oh, it premieres tomorrow. Yeah, so it seems like they're on the hook for this one for a lot. So that made me a little scared, but after the first episode, I feel a lot better. Yep, I do too. I'm excited to see where this goes.

I'm excited to watch that next episode. I'll probably actually cue that up in the next day or two, just to see what we're working with. I think we should, and this is Bray, breaking the fourth wall, but maybe we record Rhode Island episode two, even though we have the screener, guys. Maybe we do that on Monday. So we'll give you some time to watch it and get your questions in. Because we don't have any time for questions today because you guys haven't watched it yet.

Yeah, because we were cool. We're cooler than you and we got the screeners. For now. Yeah, we're not actually, we literally get like one for the premiere things. And then ridiculous. I'm 90, we're 99% sure that, because we've gotten screeners for like the first few episodes of the Valley since it premiered. And then we went on our warpath of talking shit about Alex Baskin. Lo and behold, no screeners this year. So.

Yeah. What are you going to do? Apparently actions have consequences. Yeah, well, you got to do, you know. And we go have a caviarina. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope.

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