Bros & Shows - It's Expensive to be Mean- RHOBH S12E17

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

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And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen.

I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shoots Magoutes, shoots, what's up, buddy? Not too much. We have a short week this week, a nice long weekend that we just came out of. Tuesday was a little rough, the most Mondayest Tuesday I've ever seen. Well said. And we've got football on the horizon tonight, actually. Well, I guess last night, if you're listening to this on Friday morning. And we got Bravo coming out all over the place. So it's a good time to be a bro.

It's a great time to be a bro. And you know what? I'll double down. It's a great time to be a brav bro. And I'd also counter with, when's it not a good time to be a brav bro? I don't know. I don't think the limit exists. I've yet to find that time frame because thus far, being a brav bro has been amazing.

And to all of our brav bros out there, our brav bro G's, and our new brav bros, welcome. We're thrilled to have you. But with that being said, if this is your first episode, click that little pause button for me, go on back, listen to episode one, because we don't want you here now. We want you here later. Go through the catalog, if you will. Yeah, I like that. And we love to be binged.

It feels very good to be binged. Just go back and binge us. You know, we've been told we're very bingable. Yeah, I mean, we blew up last week. We had, what, a TikTok that went off for 400,000 views and counting. Like, $420,000, no, I think. It just keeps ticking up every time that we look. And like you said, we have, there you go.

Yeah, actually, yeah. And we have a lot of new listeners. And like Steele said, go back to the first episode, listen to us. And honestly, you're going to do yourself a good service by doing that, because you're going to hear some off-the-wall takes that really don't make any sense to who we are now. I know. And that's just what Beverly Hills has done to us this year. It's honestly, and I think genuinely to our listeners, like, if you haven't listened to the first few episodes, like you really should because the roller coaster that I myself have personally been on, you've been pretty steadfast, I will say.

Like, you've adjusted here and there, but your overall, like, pillars have been the same. I've done a fucking 180 to the max to where I was a Kyle Stan originally now I'm like so far off that trade I was anti-Sutton and now I'm totally team Sutton my whole world's been flipped upside down I've done a total 180 I don't know where I am I don't know my name like I have to look at myself in the mirror and like look inward and try to figure out like who are you what happened do I like the guy that started watching Beverly Hills episode one would I get along with it? with that guy? I don't know. I don't know. We've got to get those two guys in a room together. Provost made me question everything, and I never expected this, but I'm working through it. It is kind of funny, too, and honestly, you said that, you know, my pillars have remained the same, and that's by sheer luck. I'm not going to lie. It is, I'm not going to sit here and say that I know the future, but I picked a couple of good people in this show, and it has just stuck with me the whole season and it's worked out really well for me. But I will say, I think the housewives could learn a

thing or two, looking inward, like you said. You got to look inward, figure out who you are as a person and who you stand in this show. I think all the housewives should do that. Just look in the mirror and be like, who the hell am I? Yeah. What am I doing? If any housewives are listening right now, do yourselves a favor and think like the Bronf Bros. Okay? Take a look. Take a look inward. See who you really are, because I've had to do it over this season. And you know what? I'm a better man for it. I smell some merch. Look inward. Be a bra, bro.

Be a bra, bro. Look inward. Maybe. We're going to have to start, like, selling some merch soon. Self-aware kings. But, yeah, you know, it was an amazing week, honestly. Just really fun to watch, really fun to experience. You know, we talk about it constantly.

We're texting back and forth. My favorite day is Friday morning because I get to wake up and kind of like see everything start each week. It's the kind of like the new episode drops and just seeing the traction. And the response from all of our listeners, all of you guys is incredible. So thank you so much. You keep listening. We'll keep pumping these out. But we had a lot of news pop off from the East Coast this week.

There's some Beverly Hills news, but first and foremost, I wanted to talk about news out of Jersey. Apparently, in an interview, Joe Gorga alluded to the fact that him and Melissa are unsure about their future on Jersey. They may not be coming back. Now, with that news, what are your thoughts? Are you happy about that? Are you sad about that, indifferent? What's going on in your head? I don't know what to really think right now.

I think I'm going to put, because I really don't have an answer to that question as it stands. But what I will say is we're seeing this kind of across the board where we're getting all these tidbits of information and all this drama kind of dwelling in the off season, if you will, of these shows. And what it's doing is it's drumming up interest for the show that will eventually come out. Now, I don't know when Jersey's slated to come out. We just found out what Potomac was, and we'll get to that.

And you've seen it across Bravo with all the different franchises. They will do something crazy in the off season, or there will be a report about something that happened during the season that will make us want to watch. Now, it kind of fell a little flat this year with Diana and the Aspen trip that seems to be never ending. But I do like it because it always gives us something to talk about. It always gives us a little bit more interest in a show that's coming up. now I guess what I will say about that is I don't know really what the show is going to be I mean Melissa's you know Melissa she doesn't do a whole lot but if she goes against Teresa I'm fine with keeping her there yeah and I think Joe's very entertaining when they do Joe's fun to watch just especially when you get all the house husbands together like it's always a funny scene Jersey does a really good job of showing the house husbands way better than any other franchise I agree and I think it's also because those guys have such a genuine friendship that they like to do their own thing and watching them do their own thing is fun versus like a mo scenario where he's

just inserted into the group of all the housewives and that's not nearly as fun i will say it does beg the question everything you just presented is bravo having a hand in this is bravo releasing like these dramatic kind of over-the-top situations that are happening across franchises like in the off season it seems like all this shit keeps popping off like that'll lead right into the next one is from Vanderpump and this is also a crossover and we love a good crossover here between Vanderpump and Beverly Hills apparently Garcel's son Oliver has been hooking up with Raquel now Raquel's already been in the news a little bit we talked about her previously with Tom Schwartz is she now or was she involved with Oliver who has kids and is

married. The rumors pointed to him hooking up with somebody. Now, if that somebody was Raquel, I'm not entirely sure. I do know that his wife came out on Instagram and blew up his spot entirely. She went on a rampage saying, and not in a negative way, she has every right to go on this rampage, but saying, I'm getting divorced, we're getting divorced. I was told to keep quiet, and I'm assuming she was told to keep quiet for Garcell's sake in this

situation, but she airs out all of the dirty laundry. Now, My question is, was that girl that he was hooking up with Raquel? Was Raquel and him hooking up after the fact? Was this like a separated, they're not fully divorced yet, and they were messing around? I don't know. But it does paint a really interesting picture for next season. Are we going to see all of her? Like what?

I don't know, honestly. And I think that this happened in France. I guess it happened in Sir Paris. And all I really want to say about this, because usually you're right, I am the guy who where's the tin hat between the two of us when I talk about, yeah, when we talk about our conspiracy theories with Bravo and whether or not they have hands and the drama that happens.

But for Oliver's sake, what are you doing? Like, I get it. If you're, you know, you're separated from your wife and, you know,

there's kids in the picture, if you truly are separated and like, that's what comes out and, you know, you hooked up with somebody. Okay. I mean, if that was kind of worked out with you and your wife,

then that's fine. Who am I to say? But why in the world? would you hook up with somebody from Bravo on the same network that your mom works for on it obviously a different show albeit but you know this is going to pop off from tabloids because you were already in the tabloids when you were hooking up with somebody who wasn't on Bravo so this is just going to further that fact like what the hell are you doing get your head out of your ass don't you know maybe go fix your marriage if that's what you want if it's not what you

want then just lay low for a little while the headlines buddy it's not that hard I stay out of the headlines all the time. Constantly. You've done such a good job of it. You haven't been in the headlines your whole life. I know. It's great. I think maybe the day I was born, but other than that, yeah. Well, buddy, we keep this up and maybe we'll get you a headline or two. That would be good. How about that? I'm going to actively stay out of those headlines, though. But I'm excited for the season of Vanderpump. I want to see how that plays out. We got Tom Schwartz with Raquel. Like, there's a lot of drama around Raquel, which is the only reason that she's had drama in the past is because of James Kennedy, but now she's kind of pushing her own narrative. So I don't know. I'm excited

for that season. I'm excited for we finally have a date for Potomac. We've been saying it soon over and over again, but we haven't had like a strict date. We finally found that date, October 9th. There we go. At 8 p.m. Now, this will cause a moral conundrum. Okay. And we've talked about this in jest, I believe, you know, that we're going to have our setups. But this, what else is on at 8 p.m. on a Sunday evening during the fall. Sunday night football. Sunday night football. So it's time to put your money where your mouth is. I said I would have my setup, one TV with the birds on, one TV with Bravo on. I stand by it. I will have dual televisions, football on one, bravo on the other. Which one's going to have the sound? Bravo probably. Bravo has to,

yeah. That's a tough one, see? And honestly, what I think it's going to come down to is and who's playing on Sunday night? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if we get a garbage matchup, which usually Sunday night's pretty good. And I don't know how many games the Eagles have. If that happens, then that's not really much of a question. But what I will say is, I mean, thank God that we record on Wednesdays. Because if you see me tweeting about Potomac Monday morning, just mind your own business. I watch football night.

I don't need you guys commenting on it saying, what were you doing last night. You know what I was doing. He was watching football. Yeah. Or I was so tired and hung over from whatever the Eagles did at 1 o'clock or 4 o'clock that day. still mind your own business i kind of would love like a post eagles tweet from you like after you've kind of been going through it all day long especially like if you go to the game and you've been tailgating yeah then you watch potomac and you just tweet after like 30 beers down

at the game just like still either angry or happy you'll be able to tell pretty quickly what my mood is depending on what that first tweet about potomac is but yeah i mean like you said we talked about this it It was, you know, it was a nice thought at first. We're like, oh, yeah, we've got football. We've got Bravo. Now Bravo's like, here, prove it. Money where your mouth is. Yeah, they're going to test us.

And I will not fail this test. I will pass with flying colors. But I believe that. The last thing I wanted to touch on is out of Beverly Hills. And that is this Diana donation. So Diana donated 100K to a Lionair charity fund. Now, that's the airline that had the crash. was represented by Gerardi Kese, the victims of that plane crash and their families were

represented by Gerardi Kese. And that is one of the major, major lawsuits against them for stealing those funds for Tom funneling that money out into his own accounts for personal use. Now, a lot of theories have been brought up around this donation. The first one that I saw was for tax reasons that Diana found some loophole where she can donate this amount of money and then she gets a tax break later on which is you know sounds pretty standard for the wealthy finding those little gaps so they can save some money the other one I heard and this are this is kind of my own thought process just because Erica is obviously in all these civil suits is this a subtle dig at Erica is this a $100,000 dig at Erica Jane it could be I mean

I mean, and I did see something from our good friend, Zach Peter. He did way more digging on this, which he's very good at. He saw that there was actually no charity fund set up for the victims already because they were getting paid out and, you know, different lawsuits, whatever. So there was no charity fund built. Diana created her own charity for Lionair. Really? And donated 100K to us. I don't see that.

Yeah. That's way shadier. It's way shadier. and when you see the episode tonight, the timing of it is very auspicious. I noticed that. Yeah. And, I mean, to your point, yes, do I think that Diana could be making a subtle dig at Erica. Yeah, because I don't think she cares who she's going after.

I mean, we haven't seen her go after Eric at all. It's been very buddy-buddy. But, I mean, who knows where they stands now? Maybe something else happened. That is definitely a possibility. I think it's really just PR for her. And the funny thing is, Diana has done, I'm sure, countless shady moves. in her life.

Oh, yeah. And now she just did another one. And she probably thought, like, oh, this is a good PR for me. Nope. You've never had to deal with the Bravo sleuths that will dig into your story and make sure that everything's in the up and up. And if it's not, and if they snuff out something that happened on the show, like we did. And we'll talk about that later.

But she's never had to deal with something like that. So everybody knew and called bullshit right away. And we know what she is. We know who she is. So I don't know. I think it's a terrible move by her. Well, to like piggyback off of that, and I know we're going to like dive into it much deeper later,

but just a touch on it. Like we saw that moment where they're going over the earrings, the $750,000 earrings. And Diana's response in her confessional is like, well, if you care so much, why don't you take your earrings out and donate them? Which one is not even remotely the same thing. And two,

it's showing that like, oh, she says put your money where your mouth is. Yeah. Now, was this a move like a week before this airs? Did she get nervous? or did her PR team be like, hey, we need to do something because you said put your money where your mouth is to these people kind of questioning whether or not they should even donate or whether they should give the money back and it makes you kind of look bad.

So like she got out ahead of it and she's like, well, I'm going to donate a hundred grand. I'm putting my money where my mouth is. The timing of it is suspicious. Yeah, for sure. Which, you know, she continues to do sketchy shit because she's a sketchy person. Yeah. But I'm really curious like what her motives were in this. Like, can we, I doubt we'll ever get an answer.

The one thing that, you're right. I don't think that she understands, like, who the Bravo sleuths are. Like, these people dive in deep to all of your shit. Like, they will find, I never understand why people like Diana Jenkins, like Jen Shaw, like Joe Judice. Like, why they agree to be filmed by this television show, because it always comes out. All of the shit they're trying to hide. You get the Bravo people on it? like just Bravo fans they're gonna unturn it like they do every single time yep so what the fuck

like are they do they think they're and this is where i think they might be like borderline sociopathic i think they think they're smarter than the rest of the world that they have hid their shit so well they will not be caught but you have not gone up against the bravo army and they are really good at digging up dirt well and to piggyback off of that another thing that i saw from a pretty credible source. It was the Bravo B's who actually called out that there would be a altercation between Crystal and Erica on tonight's episode, which came to fruition. They said that there is a major, or maybe not major, but a cast member of Beverly Hills wants to announce that they are stepping down from the show before the reunion. Oh, interesting. Bravo is urging them to

have some patience and wait until after the reunion, but in this tweet, they said this person's ego is so big that they may just completely disregard all of that and blow it out of the water before the reunion. So I'll ask you, who do you think it is? Oh, there's so many ways to go here. There's so many egos on the show. You know what? I'm going to go Kyle. Okay. I'm going to go Kyle because we've heard inklings that she may not be coming back or that she might be on her way out in the next couple of years. She, I think that her ego is different. I do think she has a big ego because I think that she believes that she is the real house wife of Beverly Hills. I think she is the end-all, be-all, like the front runner of this show.

And I think this year she's taken such a far step back that maybe she's seeing the writing on the wall that like she's not testing well with the fans. So this is her way to be like, fuck this, fuck everything, I'm out. But she's not as, I don't know, I, that's a tough one. I'm going to stick with it. I'm going to stick with Kyle. Yeah, and it's funny that you did say like her ego is a little different. because when I read this tweet, I read it a little differently.

Yes, Kyle has an ego, but when I think ego, and this might just be my own weird brainworking, but when I think ego, I think like over the top, crazy, completely out of touch with reality. And obviously my first thought is like maybe Diana, but like that's not really that big of a story because everybody wants her the fuck out of there. So like go anyway, who cares? And then I thought, I guess it could be Erica because she has the biggest ego on the show, at least right now and we saw that play out tonight. but I don't think she can afford to leave like that's her main source of income that's the only thing

she has going for at the moment I genuinely think she needs the money from this show to survive for sure and so that brings me to my third choice which might be my most logical and I think it's renna I mean we saw tonight she was a little more tame obviously she was a little bit more enjoyable great she's one for 18 yeah exactly but when it comes down to ego and when it comes down to Beverly Hills that's who I think of that's who comes to mind immediately and I see her just saying, kind of thinking like how Kyle does where she's like, I am the housewife, I think Rina thinks that she has run this franchise for years and how dare they even consider pushing her out. And she might have that I'm going to quit before I get fired mentality because

there were already grumblings that maybe she's not going to be asked to come back. Maybe she's going to be pushed like kind of out in the next season. I think if it's her, she's going to get out of the curve and be like, you know what, fuck it, I'm out of here. I'm going to blow it all up before your precious reunion before everything happens and that's it interesting yeah i think that probably makes the most sense i think that the wild card would be kyle and i think diana would just be expected exactly yeah but that brings us to our new show we got uh some girlfriends in paris the real girlfriends in paris and i loved this show i was delighted by it Yeah, I mean, I was too. And it was for all of the reasons that we were kind of excited about Dubai, we get in Paris, which, you know, we didn't realize the reasons that we hated Dubai were because there's no public outbursts, whatever. We're not going to get any of that, any of those issues, rather, in girlfriends of Paris. And it is nice. I mean, we talked about this beforehand, introducing a little more new blood into the mix with our Bravo friends.

I think that might be one of the reasons why I liked it so much is that I could relate to these people more. Like, I understood what they were saying. I understood where they were coming from. They used a similar lingo that I do. So that being said, we're talking about like, you know, 22, 25, 27-year-olds. Yeah, you're pretty hip. That wasn't my intention. I was saying, am I trying to feel younger by saying, like, I know the lingo?

Like, I'm, hello, fellow cool kids. Well, I mean, no, if you think about it this way, like, they are way closer an age to us than any of the Housewife franchise. Yeah, no, but I just, I, you know, I don't want to sound like I'm trying to sound younger by saying that I know the lingo. That's all I'm saying. But what are your initial thoughts, like off the cuff? What do you think of girlfriends in Paris? I thought it was a little interesting. I liked the way that they kind of, rather than doing like a formal introduction to each person, which I feel like we kind of got with, I mean, relating it to Dubai, just because.

it's a new show. You have the individual person just kind of sitting down telling you what they're all about introducing you to their family and all these things. This way, it was just, I mean, the marquee person, that's a French word, by the way. Nice job. You have Anya just kind of walking us through and she refers to them as, you know, her five American children essentially. Yeah, she's Mama Anya, which is fine. I mean, and I think I might end up getting a little annoyed by her, but I don't want to jump to gum too much. But I thought it was nice. It was very, It was a little more informal, kind of more like a younger audience, getting into, all right, these two girls are grabbing drinks. We get to introduce ourselves to them.

And then two others are doing something else. And then you kind of have Anya just kind of like coordinating the whole thing. So I liked the way that they introduced us. And I off the bat didn't hate anybody. That's huge. That's massive, especially for you because you're a cynical person entering these shows. Yeah. You usually have a qualm with at least one.

At least. I will say, like right off. the bat they go and they're going to food shopping ania puts her dog in the in the food basket i saw that that really i didn't like that at all like knowing that people are putting their food in there and you're putting your dog in there bravo's bravros versus dog owners part 17 part 17 and this one the dog actually i didn't see any issues with the dog other than like her owner putting it in the basket. Like, the dog seems to be well trained up till this point.

Like, I haven't seen any shenanigans. I have my fingers crossed that. Maybe Anya knows how to train a dog. Hopefully. We'll see. But don't put your, hey, public service announcement, don't put your dog in grocery baskets. It's gross.

It's not sanitary. No, that's where people put their food that they're going to eat. And I would imagine a lot of people don't actually wash their vegetables and fruits as well as they should. I do, but think about that. If you put like an apple in a basket that a dog was sitting in, you're not eating whatever the dog was sitting in. No, I mean, I see people walking through grocery stores just eating grapes out of the bag.

Bingo. I've done it before, and then I was like, why am I doing this? But people will just walk down the street. I mean, it's a classic movie scene. You walk down the street, you pay a guy, you know, a dollar for an apple and they just eat the apple down the street. It's like, there's a lot of shit going on there. Quick wipe on the shirt.

It should be fine. Yeah, the cleanest part of my body, my shirt. but we kind of dive in and we get to meet a whole group of new people and it was it was fun and I think that it could have been not good and I still would have enjoyed it because I'm so used to the dynamic of Beverly Hills right now because we have no reprieve whatsoever like it's different than when you're watching a Southern charm because it's a whole different setup So I like the housewife setup. I like how the dynamics are.

But to see that similar dynamic, but with a bunch of women that don't hate each other right off the bat, that have new and interesting stories, like, again, the relatableness, relatableness. It works. Is that a word? Sure. I'll take it. The relatableness of they're looking for jobs.

They're dating. They're young and in Paris. They're trying to figure out their lives. And like, not so long ago, we were. were in similar scenarios, so it's refreshing to be involved with that. But we get to meet Adja, Casey, and Victoria, and they're just going over their jobs. You know, one's an English consultant, or she's an English teacher, sorry, and would like to be an English consultant. And they all kind of have the same story. They ended up in Paris because they didn't fit in. Like

Victoria's from a small town called Sunnyville in Texas. I'm sure you have a back story. I have not been to Sunnyville. I know where it is. It's shocking. I've been to many small towns in Texas, but Sunnyville is not one of them. But she's from a small town in Texas, did not fit the bill, was not into the cookie cutter lifestyle, and got out. We later find out that she was married at like 21 years old. Yeah. And that whole debacle with her dude, correct?

Yeah. And then he was cheating on her with somebody she was going to school with. Yeah. Brutal situation. Yeah. Terrible situation. So she is now trying to figure out her life. you know, the aftermath of that.

She's in her mid-20s now. She's got a pretty incredible job. She's the head designer at Chloe. Cocoa Colette, I want to say. Cocoa Colette? Chloe Collette. Chloe Collette. It was a combo of the book.

Yeah, we got it done. Good job. Give me so up. Yeah. You couldn't see that. We just a fist bump. But so she's got a great job. And then Casey and then Aja is working actually remotely from, I think, New York City.

e-commerce. E-commerce and she is living in Paris. Her work scenario might be my favorite thing on the show so far. She's sitting in a handball game and we'll get there like way later. She's sitting at a handball game crushing beers and hot dogs and like simultaneously on her laptop doing like actual business. Well, she had a funny line too and she said, I've been trying to email this person in my company and they're ignoring me.

So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to ignore them. Yeah. I don't think that's how that works. No, that's not how it works. But, you know, I love the energy. Oh, yeah. It's awesome, but she's great.

Adjo is my favorite, I think, so far. Because I think she's going to be the most entertaining. Yeah. I like her vibes. I like her energy. I like that you're starting to see who these women are going to be. You can compare them to some of the people that we know, right? Like, is she going to be the renna of the group?

Oh, I don't even think we need to do that. I think we just, I think they deserve the respect of being the, themselves. I don't think we need to draw comparisons. That's fair. Wow. Wow, you have grown. Voice of reason. Holy shit. Shut me down. But we go on from there from those three kind of getting to know each other, letting us know who they are. And like, that's when we meet Anya's husband, Matt, I'm going to, here's my problem. I have no idea. I know, right? You know what it was. How do you pronounce his name? Matthew? Oh, shit. Really? It's not Matthew? Uh-uh. See, this is. You don't You don't even use T's in France, I guess.

I don't know. I heard her say. They don't use T's in France. No, I just made that up. But that's one of those, like you look in the mirror and just try to continue, continuously just say it like Anya says it. And I think it's Mahjou. Mahiou.

Oh, man. This is what's going to be tough with watching the show is there's going to be a lot of French words and it's going to be hard to pronounce them the right way. And I really do not want to butcher them. Well, you know what? Hand up. I actually, before watching this. did not really care for the French language.

And after seeing, I think it was the scene where Adj is talking to her aunt, they were exchanging back and forth in French. And I'm like, that's actually a pretty nice language. Hold on. You had a firm stance against French? Yeah. Because they're snooty. Oh, my God.

And I want that. And I want to start off by saying, what I want is some waiters to be kind of snooty towards the Americans. Like, ugh. Americans. It's like, they hate us. Have you had to France? It's well known that the French people do not like us.

So if they're going to be sitting in a very nice restaurant and they say something in English with American accent. You want to see some stereotypically French scenes? Absolutely. We already saw one with who you haven't gone through yet, but where Margot is talking to her father and she just whips out a cigarette. She's like, you know, I need a new sick. They're all crushing heaters in their house. Like, they have these really nice apartments. And, like, we learned that Margo has her apartment because her dad pays for it.

Dad has a cool backstory. Dad has a really cool backstory. He owned a newspaper. He sold it. He invested in Andy Warhol. Yeah, a bunch of, like... Because that one paid off. Do you think?

So he's, like, swimming in money. He's, like, Daddy Warbucks, and he... Nice. Thank you. ...is shelling out for her lifestyle. I guess, like, the thing I did not like what she said... He's like, I give you $2,000 every month for your apartment, which, by the way, not very expensive. No.

I thought that'd be way more to live in Paris and that place is pretty nice. $2,000 a month for her apartment, and she has the nerve, the gall, to be like, I used to get $10,000. It's like, what? He's paying for you to live. Yeah. What do you mean? Go get a job, lady. And, like, we'll see that play out with her brother Milo later, but I couldn't, like, how, if somebody said to me, here's two grand for your apartment.

The last thing I would say is, well, it should be 10 grand. Well, here's the thing is, is it $2,000 towards your rent or, you know, just to live? I believe it's for the apartment specifically. Okay. I think he clarified, like, it's 2Gs for your apartment. So there's other money there, otherwise she wouldn't be able to live. Well, yeah, for sure, but like not to the tune of 10 grand. Yeah, so she wants a better apartment.

Now, I will say, did you get confused at all when they were going through, like, bouncing from house to house? or from bar to bar. And at the bottom of the screen, it said, like, what was the word they used? The seventh, like, oh, man, see, this is, this is going to be the problem. And Denise? No, it wasn't that. It was. It was the fourth, like, and it's like a, I'm assuming it's either district or, like, street.

It does mean district. Whatever it is means district. It's, and, and Denise, and. Arandeith. Arandisman. Oh, damn it. I wasn't even close. Swammy Swanson. Yeah, and I was looking at it and I'm like every other time they did it.

And I'm trying to think like, what are we doing here? Do they have like designated locations and they're keeping track of this? Like what does that word mean? I guess there's like somewhere between like nine and 12 of these. And then obviously, you know, rabbit hole figuring out like what's the nicest one. Apparently the seventh is the nicest one. What's called again? Arandismint.

Arandismint. I was going to say Aaron Denise again. Yeah, well, there you go. Ron dismissed. But apparently the seventh one is the nicest one to live in because it has kind of like a lot of the old culture without it being too touristy. The fourth has the Louvre and like the sixth or eighth or whatever has the Eiffel Tower. How do you remember this shit? I don't know.

Elephant memory. Wow, that's impressive. But yeah, I mean, that was just the rabbit hole that I went down because I'm like, all right, if they're going to keep showing this on the screen, it's got to be somewhat important, right? It's got to be relevant. And I think it is because when they go to Anya's. She lives in the seventh, which is the nicest. So it does kind of make sense when you think about it. Does it go by number?

No, it's not. It's all over the place. Yeah. Okay, interesting. Yeah, well, that kind of plays into why I think I like this and like why I think this is doing a better job of what Dubai was trying to do. I am thoroughly enjoying just the paris scene, like bopping around and like seeing the cafes they're going to the bars.

I do have a question. because two of them in two episodes were two for two on bars named Brooklyn do they just name bars after like burrows of New York is that like I don't like I thought the same thing I honestly thought the same thing and then I I didn't look this one up but I have to imagine that Brooklyn isn't really from New York I'm sure we stole it from somebody that's actually everything we have is that's such a good point derivation from whatever but are we the it's like they stole our word yeah French fries. Those are ours.

We made those. But I do think that it is, like you said, you know, it's a little more illustrious. It's, you know, it's Paris. It's a big city. Yeah. What it really is is New York. I mean, that was the draw for New York was all the money being thrown around. Yeah, that's a good point.

And we loved that because, you know, then we learned to enjoy the housewives until, you know, they fizzled out. But this is, you know, the Dubai thing was just like way too much in your face. This is a little bit more like these women are, you know, struggling a little bit to kind of find their place in the world and kind of, you know, develop financially, which I think we will see with Anya. Apparently she's living too lavish of a lifestyle and she can't afford. But I think I like that like duality of wanting to live in the most expensive city in the world and not being able to afford it. And like, these are the things that I had to do. Oh, at the same time, I've got a group of, you know, five expats that are American that I'm. really love and we're all kind of learning together i think that's a good dynamic for a show yeah i agree

and i think it's going to be fun to watch it play out and like we're going to dive probably deeper into this as it gets going um for tonight in episode one i just wanted to touch on their dinner like they have a thanksgiving at ania's and i love and we see in multiple scenes home cooking they all plate their food to make it look good and like i like that as some i do this that like every single meal and it's kind of you know might be nerdy but like I like to make it look good before I eat it and then to watch them all do that every single time someone made something at home they plated it like they were doing something on like guys grocery games or something like that so I'm a big fan of that but she makes this like pretty amazing looking

dinner for all these women in her apartment but what I loved was the banter the back and forth like Margo's talking about she hasn't gotten late since August and that's not November three, four months yeah and she's just going on the table like when's the last time you fucked

when's the last time you fucked like going one by one asking all these women and they're all like the one I think Emily's like which is also funny Emily in Paris but yeah I know Emily's like

low hanging for it's been like you know like she's like what like a week and she's like yeah like okay next and she's like just takes a sip of her wine I think it was Adja and she just takes a sip and she's like okay so today next

But yeah, I mean, you do get like a clearer picture of, and we will get a clearer picture of everybody moving forward, but I think we do get a pretty clear picture of Margo in the first two episodes like her, I guess the way that she kind of carries herself and obviously the conversations with her dad and the way that she's just calling out all the girls at the table. And I love it. I think it's fun. One thing that I did notice and I was watching this with my fiance and she said, it's going to be kind of funny trying to film in these Paris apartments because they're all. so tight. Like, imagine a whole film crew. Like, the first couple apartments that we got into, they're really small corners. I mean, the fact that Anya cooks

that whole meal in that kitchen as it is with that bird, it's impressive. She'd be good on, uh, below deck. Yeah. She'd be good in a galley kitchen. Absolutely.

But I'm now, I'm thinking about the crew members, just stuck in these tight corners. Like, oh shit, something's going on over there. Let's turn all the way around to do this. I'd like to imagine one of them is out on Margo's little balcony where she keeps her groceries.

You probably can't get in. the window's like sitting there with a camera like knocking on the window like come on let me in um and then in like an episode too you know we just we continue to learn more about these women and just kind of getting to know them this one kind of leans more on the dating side of things um we see adja kind of opens up to her aunt later in the episode where she's talking about why she has issues committing to things and like why she's hesitant to dive into a relationship because when she does, like, she gets rejected. And then so she just walled off and doesn't give the guy a chance.

And like you said earlier, I love when they talk back and forth in French, actually. And I love when they were going back and forth and like half of it's in English, then they get half of it's in French. So the whole conversation flows in a way that was really, I think, pleasant on the ears. Yeah, it was pleasant on the ears. And, I mean, we can read. So that always helps. Yeah, the captions are a big help. Yeah, I think about, well, we turn the captions off just because it was going.

from French to English and they were like dropping the captions bringing them back on whatever but yeah I mean it is kind of interesting always to hear that because I've heard of the past there are some ways to say things some phrases to say things in American

that just work better in American English than they do with a different language and vice versa so I guess when you are multilingual you can do something like that I'd love to be able to do something like that sounds fun yeah me too but I think the biggest takeaway

and this was actually at the end of episode one and then it took more of a role in episode two was Victoria is actually bisexual and she I mean apparently comes out pretty much because she said like her family doesn't know and by her saying this on TV like it's going to come out so I thought that was actually really cool of her to say in front of the entire group and like put it out there put herself out there it's something that she's clearly been struggling with for a long time as like being accepting a who she is and she's got a girl that she's been talking to from England that we actually get to see them FaceTime together and I think this is why I'm going to like this show.

It's just fun to watch and this is going to sound kind of funny but like you see it with Casey and the handball guy later and you see it with Victoria in this scene like they're in their 20s like I guess Victoria has got more of a life experience because she's been divorced so she's been through it, but, like, the giddiness of, like, the unknown, like, they're not in their 30s yet. They haven't been, like, through some major shit, I guess, again, Victoria has. But, like, seeing the, like, just the qualms of dating is kind of fun and refreshing because with the housewives, you don't really see it. You know, you see them more, they're either married or they're divorced, and they're much more independent at this point. They've kind of got their lives sorted out.

So to watch these women, like, you know, struggle a little bit is so much more relatable. So I think that's probably why I enjoyed it as much as I did. Yeah. And I mean, I'll reiterate, like they are so much closer in age to the new, I guess, era of Bravo fans, the people who are watching now, obviously like, yeah, we still love the housewives. But, I mean, you and I talk about it. Like, you love Banderpump Rules. I'll do Southern Charm Summer House over one of the Houseway franchise because I will relate to things that they're doing things that they're going through what they're talking about. So this is kind of ushering

in a new era, which is, again, we talked about this leading up to this. We talked about the importance of being able to successfully usher in this new era. Yeah. I mean, it's it's less so more of the same and more so Bravo, at least being cognizant of that and bringing in this new era. And again, it keeps us happy because now we've got a lot more to talk about and we know that there's a bright future here. Did we think that we would like this show as much as we do probably not i mean we had our hopes we said i think we agreed we were cautiously optimistic about agreed yes and i mean i'm i'm pleasantly surprised by how much i actually enjoyed watching it yeah me too i'm excited again we'll probably the more they get into like the drama and things

start like getting hype we'll probably dive into this a lot more but i just wanted to touch on it like knee-jerk reactions and i'm excited i'm genuinely excited for this show and like to see where it goes. Well, one last thing I will throw in there. I think I'd be a world-class handball player. Oh, yeah. Can we talk about handball for a second? It is a joke of a sport.

If anybody out there is a handball player, this is not directed at you. I'm sure you're great. It is. The shooter, he's directing this at you. I'm not. This is not a personal attack. I just, look, when I see handball, but the problem is with this argument is most countries play handball.

We are one of the few that do not. But we play hand-eye coordination sports. Absolutely. I'm just saying for us to take a stance against handball, which, again, I, you know, wasn't my favorite sport to watch? Absolutely not. Well, it is funny because I think last year, whenever the Olympics were on, Jay Cutler got into some hot water because he said he would be a world-class handball player.

I think Jay Cutler would be a world-class. To argue that a quarterback in the NFL would not be a decent handball player is. Even in his current age, like he's retired and he still has a stronger arm than most people. Yeah, I think that's ignorant for handball. players to assume that a quarterback. The European handball people got outraged. Really? Yeah, they blew back at them and they're like, come on over to a handball court and we'll show you. And he's like, I absolutely would. Did he? No. He should have. No, he didn't. I don't think he left his ranch, but is this going to open us up to handball attacks to where we're going to have to go? Look, if you want us to come over and

play in Europe, we will happily come over there and play handball. And by the way, if you spank us and we are not able to keep up, we will gladly admit it both to your face and on the air. I don't know if I will. You're petty, but I will. In the words of Catherine, you're a petty little bitch. But that takes us to Southern Charm. Not much really happens. I don't think we need to spend too much time on it.

I think the keynotes here would be the page of Naomi drama, obviously. Now, before we dissect this, if you will, what are your initial thoughts? Like, do you think that there are still feelings there on both sides? Oh, okay, on both sides. All right. I jumped the gun on a little bit on that one. Could you let me talk, pal? Jesus.

No, I do. And we talked about this a couple weeks ago. I think that there are still feelings on Naomi's side. I feel like Craig has closed the door. He has a happy relationship. Again, another pleasant week of Craig and Paige. I love them together. They're so good together.

Even if he's afraid to touch a raw turkey, I still love them together. That's fine. He still ended up helping. But I love to. She was like, I'll do it and just like dug right in. It was great. Yeah, I thought that you might have some comments on the deep fried turkey. I, look, if you can do it the right way, deep fried turkey is delicious.

The problem with is most people do it the wrong way. They don't control the temperature. It's either overdone or they spill the oil and light their house on fire. It looks really good. That's like people light shit on fire all the time because they drop the turkey in too fast. The temperature gets too high. Another public service. We're doing a lot of PSAs tonight.

If you're going to deep fry a turkey, make sure you do it the right way. and cause a lot of damage. But done right, delicious. I just love that they were talking shit on Craig. Everybody was talking shit on Craig leading up to it. And he did a great job. Craig always thinks that he knows what's going on. Craig always thinks that he can cook.

Craig always thinks this, that, whatever. And I mean, was it easy to do that? No, I watched them like painstakingly try to put this contraption together to do it between him and Austin. Austin's questioning him the entire time. Shep jumps in, talks about it. Page is even saying some things in the first place. And he does a great job. It looked fantastic.

Yeah. I think he did a great job. And to go, I guess, move away. Because that's really the only other thing that happened that I even wanted to talk about. But more on the page of Naomi thing. I liked that page new to sit down with Catherine about Naomi. Oh, yeah. Because she wanted to vent a little bit and be like, all right, is Naomi fucking serious?

Because every time that she's in the room, she said Craigie again. Did she? I didn't hear that. Yeah, she did the Craigie thing again when he walked into the kitchen. She was taking pictures. back we can talk about the pilgrim thing in a second but she they were taking pictures out back with the sunset and she was like Craig love Craig love take a picture and pages like is this bitch fucking serious I didn't hear say love oh yeah that's what I put the subtitles on for these reasons

I yeah there's always yeah there's always some nuances that I miss out on but for journalistic purposes alternative yeah it's definitely worth it but page sits right down with Catherine public enemy number one for Naomi and starts venting and obviously It's just like licking her chops at this. Like, I love this. Fuck Naomi. You're right. Absolutely.

Go after her. Do whatever you have to do. And it ends up being not nearly as big as I thought. I want to get your thoughts on this. But what do you think about Naomi actually going in to a room full of people and saying, Hey, Paige, do you have a minute to go talk? It's inappropriate. It's just as inappropriate as her doing it to Craig at the dog party.

Are you? I don't know. I think that's a little worse. but it's on the same level. It's just, you can't, and this might be the Charleston aspect of it. It's so small that maybe like she has dealt with things like this in the past that way. I don't know. But to think that it's remotely acceptable to talk to your ex-boyfriend's current girlfriend

and pull her aside with everybody paying attention, like that is 100% a text. Let's go get coffee. Wait till the next time you see her and you have the opportunity. to kind of like pull at her shirt and be like hey like can i talk to you real quick and like sneak off but she's doing it intentionally to call attention to the fact because if she does that and everybody sees her make the effort to pull her aside and then page has a bad reaction Naomi can be like i don't know what happened you guys all saw i was trying to be nice it's just setting herself up so if it goes way south she's protected but no it's it's bullshit like i'm trying i was sitting with dev and she's

like if any of this ever happened she's like i would lose my shit like that's not okay and like me myself like flip it i think i would lose my shit like it's all just so weird it's just a weird fucking move like yeah and it does it screams that you still have feelings and like page you know new york page has no problem dropping the hammer and being like do you still have feelings for them like she's gonna she's not gonna beat around the bush like we see the southern charm cast do like she's gonna come in hot she's gonna tell you exactly what's going on exactly why I pissed her off and ask you what your intentions are like flat out and Naomi I mean she just says like the right things I guess but I didn't believe it no at the end of

it didn't really make me feel like it was resolved at all I thought the page she dropped the bomb and then Naomi kind of responded in Naomi's way and then at the end of it it's felt so fake with the on page's part you know I want to know where you got that like I want to borrow your clothing. I want to do this. I want to do that. I want to talk shit. I want to get drinks and stuff like that. Like she started off the conversation by saying, you know, I don't, I never expected us to be close friends and go get coffee together and go get drinks together. But then she ended it by saying, I want to borrow your clothes. I want to get drinks with you. So like, that was a little confusing. But I guess it is just page kind of putting an end to it. Maybe she just

saw an opportunity to be like, all right. Naomi is kind of floundering a little bit. I don't think she means super unwell when she's going after Craig or going after me. So let me just end it and I'll kill her with kindness. Yeah, I think that's probably more of what we saw. But I mean, other than that, nothing really happened. I'm looking forward to Southern Charms climaxes this season, like when we're going to see stuff like get resolved, blow up even more. Well, I think we did get at least something, at least an inkling as to what's going to happen with both Vanita and Madison not being invited. good move on Austin not inviting Madison

because now he actually has time to focus on Olivia and his relationship with her and they look good they look happy together that's awesome you don't have the Madison cloud hanging over you just because it's the southern thing to do like invite them somewhere no fuck that but Vanita getting left off was interesting and they didn't get a confessional from Vanita about how she felt now this is two times in what four weeks that she hasn't been invited somewhere

yeah she would be in her own mind thinking like What the hell did I do? Am I alienating myself? Whatever. But it looks like, and it was a throwaway comment last week on the bus on the way up to All Brass, where Austin said, are you just texting Madison, everything that we're saying? So I think Austin has an idea as to what's going on where Vanita is working for Madison as sort of like a little minion.

And repeating back to Madison, Madison doesn't give a shit about Benita. She just wants to be in on the things and make sure that she's well informed so that she can blow things up. interesting so well and then scenes from next week sort of confirmed that a little bit where they say something about like looking at benita's phone and madison was involved in that situation so i think a blowup could be happening a climax could be happening soon and we need it now you know things got a little weird things got a little uncomfortable yep they everything seemed fine and copesthetic this episode again not a whole lot to talk about because of that i will refuse i will refuse to talk about Naomi and Whitney until it's It's tangible. No, but I liked Patricia's response to it. Like, what? Like, just baffled. Why wouldn't she be?

It makes my head hurt trying to figure it out. So I have refused to discuss it until there's more tangible evidence on the matter. I appreciate that. That's where I stand. I stand with you. And that brings us to the main event to the Rob-Huh. And now that we have, like, thousands of listeners, I need to hear a Rob-huh from somebody. I have gotten zero support on the matter.

I haven't even gotten like a DM saying, hey, I said Robha the other day. Nothing. So somebody help. I think they're waiting for me to do it and I'm not going to do it. I know you're not going to do it. I need somebody out there to do it. Okay, somebody help me.

I need a Robha. Give me one Robha and I'll stop doing it because it's probably annoying at this point. Are you going to create a fake Instagram just so you can do it and be done with that? Do you think I'm above that? No. No, absolutely not. I might. I absolutely might.

I might pay somebody to be like, hey, say this into a microphone and then I'm going to like tweet it out. But we are back in Aspen. We are on day two of what's apparently going to be a three day trip. And we start out with Kyle Rinna and Erica are kind of waking up and going over the night before. And I watched the last like 10 minutes of last week's episode again just because I didn't want to miss the beginning of this week. And I was in a good mood today. I was feeling good. I was excited to record this and instantly I was so angry watching this scene unfold again and then it led into this week's episode and I swear to God I almost pulled my hair out when they were sitting

there talking about what happened the night before and Kyle can say with a serious look on her face that Sutton is doing mean girl stuff yeah it's the most out of touch thing I've ever heard and we went through the debacle of last week. I, like, I, in that moment was so confused, I thought I was taking crazy pills. I thought that I was, like, going insane. I'm like, am I watching the wrong fucking show? Have I been watching the wrong thing this whole time?

And I'm just going nuts. Like, how the fuck can you sit there and say that the unfollowing? It's about the unfollowing. Once again, it's like, look, you're talking about unfollowing a person on a social media platform versus calling somebody a C word not once, but twice. With reasons.

With a whole list of reasons why that person's a C word. And that's okay. But an unfollowing makes you do mean girl stuff. It's crazy to think. And it's funny because obviously this was filmed, what, six, seven months ago? And we're just seeing it now.

All I've seen for the last week is people calling Diana, Erica, mean girls. Yeah, and Kyle. Like that exact phrase, mean girls. For Kyle to sit down there

the very next day and use that exact phrase is ironic in the worst way. Yep. And it's funny. Fucking just so, like I said, just so out of touch

and just so, there's no self-awareness in this group at all. And it's the common theme of the entire season. Not one person has any self-awareness. I mean, even to the point that Sutton is just

apologizing out the ass at this point, she doesn't really have any self-awareness because she needs to just stand up for herself. I guess Garcel has some, but for them to sit there and kind of decompress from the night before, not even mentioning the fact that Derreet had to leave the house. Oh yeah. She felt unsafe and an uncomfortable. Bullshit. To go stay in, yeah, get the fuck out of her. To go stay in the hotel with Diana. Because I loved that. That's a safer building. Uh-huh. Yep. She was definitely like group texting, whatever. I don't feel safe. I don't feel say if Diana saw an opportunity, come on over to Diana's place. Yeah, come on over here.

Diana will take you in. She's just like grooming her subject. It sucks. And like Doreet's like the best target because one, according to many rumors online, they're struggling for money. There's some sketchy stuff potentially happening there. Who knows? Diana's got all the money.

So of course Doreet's going to like sprint over to our hotel and claim that she doesn't feel safe. I just, I can't see that being true when you are staying in a gorgeous rental home in Aspen, surrounded by people you know. No, I took it two ways, actually, because at first, when she said she felt uncomfortable, and then all the girls were sitting there, like, with Kyle and Lisa and Erica just sitting there talking about it, I thought at first that Dorete felt uncomfortable being in a house with Sutton and Garcell. I did too. And then she said she felt more safe going to the hotel. So which is it? Because I think it's a little bit of both.

Oh, she said both. Oh, see, I thought that she... Well, no, I'm sorry. Kyle and Lisa had said that she felt uncomfortable, and they sort of draw to what happened the night before. Maybe she's like, I'm in the wrong house. She felt like she was in the wrong house the whole time. Before she left and she said something to P.K., like, I'm staying with Sutton, Garcell, and Crystal and Cherie. And P.K. was like, Why aren't you staying with Kyle and Rinnett, like your friends? Why are you staying with these people? Option C.

Diana's got a hotel room. I'm going to go over there. That'll be fine. And you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to act like I feel unsafe because I'm still, I still have PTSD from the break-in. And I can use this as a crutch to go over there. Watching all, like, just watching this scene. And I could honestly, like, we have to move on from this because I could talk about this one scene for the entirety of the rest of the episode.

because it was that unsettling. I was that pissed off about it. But we move on from there. There's a bunch of back and forth. Like the whole, we're jumping from place to place. Everyone's just pretty much getting ready to go skiing is what it sums up to. And we see, like, I love the ski outfits, you know, big fan of ski outfits.

But of course, Doreet, who doesn't ski, she hasn't gone skiing in 20 years, rolls in with a fendi helmet. Mm-hmm. Why? To match her fendi pants. But why? Just why. that's like the dude at the municipal golf course

that pulls out the $2,000 fitted clubs and shoots a $130. That's the perfect comparison. Don't spend outrageous amounts of money for things that you don't do, for things that you are not good at. That you wore for what, four hours maybe because you went down the hill once.

And it took her four hours to get to the bottom. And when she gets down there, like, are you kidding me? I am so proud of myself, you guys. I am so proud of myself. You didn't just conquer Everest. You went down a bunny slope and didn't... It fell a couple times. You slid on your ass down a hill, and you want everyone to be like, oh, my God, good for you.

Like, you faced the mountain. You won, Doreet. Up top, you loser. Now, it was pleasantly surprising to see that Crystal, Rina, and Kyle were actually really good at skiing. And Crystal was shredding. Yeah, Crystal was flying. And she even took it as a competition, which, again, we went a little more Crystal. We got a little more crystal towards the end of the episode,

but we want a little more crystal. And for her to see this as, you know, this is a competition. The other two girls that are behind me, they're moving pretty quickly. They look pretty good. I want to be the first one down there. I love that. I love the competitive spirit.

Absolutely. We need more of that. How she came in later in the episode. This was a good crystal episode overall. But we also have the snowmobile crew that went and did their own thing. And this is the most awkward van ride in the world. But they end up actually having a. decent time together. We got Cherie, Garcel, Sutton, and Erica, and the most chipper snowmobile

instructor in all of Aspen. Jesse was so jacked of. Are you guys ready to do this? Are you ready to get out there? And the whole time Sutton's just over there playing with the animals, not paying attention, doesn't really care. But I think that what happens is you get Erica to get away from the core group. She comes into the other group. She's not nearly as bad. she's not nearly like I don't know like provoking she doesn't have backup so I think she has to kind of like tread lightly and not be a total dick yeah and I thought it was really funny when she got into the into the band everybody just put their sunglasses on yeah and garcells were so like big and blocking the first thing I thought of was the kid in the vine who's like I just got

my hater blockers on him blocking out the haters I love that and like that's fucking great and it ends up being a pretty pleasant time and you actually get to see what we've been talking about Sutton saying I like you like ingest like shut up I like you and Erica coming right back I like you too we just have to work on her shit yeah and that's like it goes to Garcell's confessional and she's like they would get along they are similar like the difference is Erica's way more brash and like over the top but as far as like being opinionated and being from the south and like having like minds like they're not that far off they should be able to key key together without it being so dramatic.

And that's what Garcel said, just drop the shit. Like, cut out the bullshit, and you guys would probably get along really well. Yeah. But I think the best part of that scene is that just adds more fuel to the fire for your claim of Erica coming to Sutton's defense eventually against Diana. And, like, we might, they were so close. There was a couple times tonight where I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God, it's going to happen. Like, especially at dinner, I thought it was going to happen. Yep.

It was close. I almost gave you partial credit, but I can't. I can't give it to you yet. We've got to see how it plays out. No, I think if Diana had said something about Sutton's dress and, like, showing her boobs, and Erica came back and just said, no, that looks really good. That would have been great. That would have counted.

Yes. But she did compliment, like Sutton walks in. We're not at dinner yet, but when she did walk in, Sutton looks at Erica and, like, goes, eh, like kind of points. And Eric goes, it looks good. Looks good. It's nice. It looks pretty good.

Everything's there. The writing is definitely on the wall. I mean, I want it to happen so bad. If nothing else comes from this tumultuous season, at least that could come true, and I would be so stoked. The main conversation between Garcell's crew is about the earrings. We're back on the earrings, which, of course, we know more about because it's been transpiring in real time, and this is obviously way back. The sentiment amongst the majority of the group, including we find out later, like Kyle and that crew, is that they want her to give them back. Or at least show some remorse.

Show remorse, but like the easiest way to show compassion and remorse is just to give them back. There weren't $750,000 and that money can go to one of these afflicted families. Whether you're guilty or not, that just shows you're not an asshole. I like that she inflated the price, too. like she got the praise for way higher yeah 1.3 and garcel goes per earring like no that's just the value total yeah but don't tell people that right now and she had them with her in aspect that was the most baffling part yeah like are you idiot so tone deaf and garcel had already talked about it on her reality show and she was had some feelings about like all right you know this is going to come out in the next week or two I should probably get ahead of this just let erika know like hey we talked about this then after she has a conversation with her she's like fuck no I'm not telling her. I don't have to give her a heads up now. I'll blindside her because it's not really blindsiding anymore.

I let her know how I feel and where my stances and what I would do in her position. So when it comes out next week on the reel, I don't give a shit what she thinks. Well, she's sitting there going through her list of just expensive shit that she still has. And Garcel goes and her confessionals, like, don't talk about this stuff right now. Like, how tone deaf can you be? You are in civil suits right now that are concerning. money and use of stolen funds to afford your lifestyle, you are going through the inventory of what that money was used for.

Yeah. And her argument later on was like 15 years ago, like yes, for this amount of money to have been stolen, this is a very long con that this man has been running. So whether it's 10 years ago, five years ago, or 15 years ago, you have to assume that that is dirty money. And if you're out here on TV airing out your dirty laundry via price tag, you're, you're going to get shot in the foot. Well, now I do love the dichotomy in that exact scene with maybe the richest housewife on the show.

Well, maybe not with Diana, but Kathy pulling up that bag. I think Kathy has more than Diana. You think so? We're talking about the Hilton's. Well, I think Diana's got a lot of, like, black market money that maybe isn't showing up. I know, I know, I know. I'm not saying she does. I'm just saying there's a possibility there.

but Kathy pulling up that that beach tote that she definitely like took from some store that she's just carrying all of her belongings in. I love that Kathy does she. I love that she can sleep in a bunk bed. I love that she can bring around a tote bag. And I hate that Kyle has to point it out all the time. I know. And the other like pointing out the shoes from the like the hotel to the airport.

Are they embarrassing? To some degree, sure. For a Hilton to be walking around an airport in that wardrobe is something you don't think that you would see. All right. but it shouldn't be a two-day thing like when you see her it should be a reaction like dude you really wore that like kathy hilton you can't wear that in an airport and by the way kathy hilton can wear whatever the fuck she wants but leave it you're done you you commented on it you commented on the shoes let it go yeah let her sleep in her bunk bed let her sleep till noon

if she wants to and she'll meet you guys later who cares yeah stop bugging your sister bro like get out of there but Dinner blows up a little bit. It gets kind of settled because I guess they don't want to cause a scene. But when Garcel is questioning Erica, she, Erica says, do you think they're stolen? And Garcel goes, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe.

They demo could be. And then she gets her, then she starts enunciating. And that's when you know, you hit a nerve. Yep. He doesn't, how dare you say that? Now, what did you think about Maricio on the trip? He's tagging along a lot. I think he was stoned the entire.

entire time. I think he was quite clearly stoned at dinner. Oh, absolutely. With that, but Marvelous hat. Oh, tremendous. I thought his attire was, was fantastic. I thought he looked good for skiing. He looked good for everything. Aspen looks good on Mo. You can't deny it. You know, especially when he's saying they're talking about sausage with Dorit. I don't know. But I will say, like, why, if you're Mo, why do you want to be at dinner with these women. Wouldn't you rather just go do your own thing? I would imagine that Kyle probably, I think that one was like, yeah, come to dinner with us. Like, show up, like you're here with us. I think that's more of a support thing where he's just like, yeah, that's probably why he was so

stoned for dinner. It's just like, all right, well, stuff's probably going to blow up here, so I'm just going to get really baked and go eat some Italian food. That's not the worst evening. No, and we saw it when he was walking in and the like 20 year olds holding the door to goes, my man, my man. I was like, oh yes, Mo, good for you, buddy. Just really jazzed up to be out there. But dinner ends without like a major public outburst

and they get back to the house and everyone's getting their PJs on. We see a different side of Brina than we've seen all season and this doesn't vindicate her from anything that she's done. But she's popping out edible. She's trying to like literally do. doing what she can to get the room to calm down. Yeah, and to dance and to have fun.

Yeah, to just party a little bit. And, like, she even says, like, it's so dramatic, which is hysterical that she's the one to say that this season has been so dramatic, but whatever. She just wants everybody to have a good time. And I thought it was hysterical when Sheree was eating a gummy, or I guess it was a chocolate-covered blueberry. The way that she described it, I had no idea what it was. It was chocolate, something with blueberries and chocolate.

It's a weed chocolate. Yeah. And she's like, it tastes like weed. It's like, are you already stoned? Of course it does. Now, I did, I was wondering, like, towards the end of the episode when you see them all kind of like huddled up on the couch and like laughing and doing whatever, who actually ate it? Because I want to know if Sutton ate it because she was like, hair over her face, like giggling. Yeah, I think they were all on the same boat and loved that for them.

I think one half of the room was on an edible and the other half of the room was on tequila. Yeah. That's what the vibe. I got was. I love that Kathy continues to use this as a way to pitch her friends tequila. She says word for word the same spiel she gave previously. Was it her friends? I thought it was Paris and Nikki's and then she also invested. Yeah, you're right. So it's her families. Yeah. And I just like they do the side by side where she's saying the things back and forth. It's literally the same speech she already gave. And nobody really wants the tequila, which I actually kind of felt bad. I was like just

someone like somebody just try it. Please. down for her sake. Don't start yelling no at her as soon as she starts pitching it. Just do it and she'll stop. Just try it a little bit. But of course, we cannot have a drama-free evening. We need things to pop off. So Garcel calls Erica over to the bar.

She calls her over and they start questioning her about the earrings. Why are you not donating them? And then Crystal, we see Crystal just questioning, why are you not giving them back? Like, regardless of the scenario, like the right thing to do is, to give these earrings back. And Erica is just leaning on the legal process. She's leaning on the law. She's not being able to look through this

and understand why the right thing to do is just to give them up. No, I think that she showed her true colors. I think, like you said, yes, she's been leaning on the wall. She's been leaning on the due process and talking about like the court of public opinion versus the actual court.

And we're talking about the court of public opinion. Now, yes, I agree with that. But towards the end of it, when you start talking about, like, I'm worried about me. You should be worried about me, Kyle. She says, I don't give a fuck about anyone else but me. That is, that's her true colors, though. She doesn't care. This is not about the legal process.

She's not, like, evading some sort of issue that she might fall herself into talking about something that she shouldn't be talking about outside of the court. She only cares about herself. And she wants those earrings. And she's not giving them back because, you know what, she loves them. And she wants to fucking rock them. Because she likes to rock really expensive things. We saw it at dinner. She likes having expensive things.

That's her lifestyle. It's expensive to be me, Ben. Yeah. And just like having at least an ounce of compassion for the people who did die, the people who did get screwed out of money, that's factual. That happened. And she said maybe it's not facts. She starts to question the validity of the victims.

Yeah. It's literally the worst thing you could do for a multitude of reasons. one, morally speaking, it's just wrong, two, and most importantly, in her mind, I would think, what do you think this does to your civil suits when this shit comes out public? Do you think that these lawyers aren't going to take this footage and be like, she doesn't even care? Yeah. Who needs a character witness when you have this?

Yeah. They're going to obliterate her in the courtroom because of what she is saying. And we did see it a couple weeks ago, at least just one little throw. away comment that she made when she questioned if there were victims. She said were there victims? I don't know. And that stunned me then. I never thought that she would double down on it.

Oh, she doubled down and more. Tripled, quadrupled, but I think that she, tonight she just shed all of that I can't say anything because of the court and showed, this is how I truly feel. Fuck them. They're not me. This is how bad it is, what she

said. She got Kyle involved and Kyle was saying you need to stop. I can't defend you when you're saying stuff like this, which paints another crazy picture for me because that's pretty much saying, I will defend you regardless of what you do. I will defend you to the end of the earth,

no matter what you're saying, except for this. That means that she doesn't really care whether Erica is right or wrong. That's what I get from this. She is just going to defend her blindly, and the only way you can draw that line in the sand is questioning hundreds of victims that died in a plane trash and their families. I don't know.

I had a different vibe from that with, I actually do think that Kyle felt for the victims. Like, no, you can't say these things. And she got worked up. She was pretty emotional. And it wasn't because my friend is doing something wrong for herself. Like, she's going to hurt herself in the end. Maybe DeRietz was a little bit. But I thought that Kyle's was straight up, like, emotional for the victims thinking, like, no, Erica, people died.

like you can't say that and you saying this makes you look deplorable and I don't know how I can continue to be a friend with you if you're going to say things like that because that's not how I feel like I said maybe I'm hypersensitive about the Kyle thing yes but I think you are onto something with Doreet yeah Doree because she wasn't nearly as Flavix by the whole thing Kyle did have a pretty big outburst on the whole matter I thought it was hysterical that the main focus of Kathy during this is that Kyle said fuck yeah much her left Don't say that. And Kyle goes, oh, sorry.

And then continues without cursing. My bad, my bad, my bad. Let me clean this up. But Rinna's the one that, like, drags her out. And to see these women who we have seen take Erica's side blindly, the entirety of the season, to at least have the sense in this moment to be like, all right, this is bad, this is wrong, we need to put an end to this and shut her up for her own sake, for our sake, for everybody involves sake let's just get her the hell out of here yeah i mean i think that's what we've been waiting

for this whole season is yeah i mean was it really like a fracture in the friendship of the core for friends not really because you see them like defending her in the sense like let's get her out of here before she continues this time out real quick i will say because the dureate thing she does say at some point she's going to have to take responsibility for the thing she's saying i will give dureate that little just a little bit just a little bit but not too much credit just a little teeny bit of credit yeah no it would have been nice if everybody in the room and i'm happy sutton stayed out of this but it would be nice if everybody in the room just bear down on erika and said you can't say that and then she lashes out because then she'll

leave by herself yeah didn't see really diana doing anything no diana's the one that says put your money where your mouth is and we come with that but she in that moment by saying that she's taking erika aside yeah period absolutely she has nothing else to say about the matter she's team Erica all the way and that's why we see that $100,000 donation come out that's 100% why that came out because she realized like shit

I didn't do enough I didn't do anything I didn't do anything I arguably sided with Erica who looks horrible in this and I'm sure like her publicist was by like dude we got to handle this now before this gets out there because you don't look great no and to turn it around on

and I forget who said it but to turn it around on Crystal and Garcell and I've seen a couple people saying well, the way that Garcel was coming at Erica was wrong. Like, no, it wasn't. Not even kind of. She had backup, too, with Crystal. And that helped because they are, in this sense, I mean, you would imagine that most people would be the voice of reason, at least being moral.

And they're sitting there just going at her. And for somebody to say, oh, well, if you have such a problem with it, why don't you donate something of yours to the fund? That's not the same thing. It's not. They're not involved, really. They're just trying to get this woman that they work with, that they're friends with, essentially. to show some remorse and have a soul and they're not getting through to her. She just doesn't care, even more so to the point where she literally just shows who she actually

isn't. She doesn't really have a soul. She just cares about herself. But most importantly, the earrings that those women are wearing are not purchased by fraudulent funds. They're not, it's not even remotely the same thing. Nope. They can still donate to the cause, but there was not a charity to donate to until Diana

fucking did it herself. Yeah, and then do I want to donate to a Diana charity? No, absolutely not. Where's that money going? No clue. Probably to her ghostbusters. Oh, all right, that's fine. You're going to get ahead of the curve on this one.

No cease and desist. Definitely ghostbusters. And that brings us to the question portion of the show. As you know, some of these usernames are hard to read, so I will do my absolute best not to butcher them. if I do feel free to reach out and tell me I did, and I'll try better next time. You would think that you would vet these first. Well, they come in, like, as we're recording.

I know, but at least take a glance and be like, that's an easy one and a good question. But a lot of the good questions are hard to read. I like that. All right, I'm just going to go for it. SLEC-E-K-I-E-E, S-L-E-K-K-I-E-E. Boink, Mary, Kill, Diana, Rina, and Erica. That's a good one.

We sort of did this. I think that Renna is a new one. Renna is a new issue. I think we did Diana and Erica. Kill Diana, boink Erica, marry Renna. I think that's the only answer.

Oh. What, you want Diana's money? Are you to marry her? No, no. No, Diana is not. She's unalived, as they say these days. I like that.

Rina and Erica, that's the tough one for me. Rina seems to have a good home life with Harry Hamlin, so I think I'm going to take the same out. is you. I think that's the only answer. Yeah, probably. From Abzwiler, Ab, A. B. Swiler. Absewiler. Fuck. It's absolutely horrible that Rinnock called Slutton, Slutton. What are your thoughts on that? Did you see that post? Wait, did she say Slutton Slutton? She commented. No, no, no, but did the question call Sutton Slut. Oh, no, that was my bad. Freudian slip by steel. I am so sorry. Rinnett called Sutton,

And Slutton, what are your thoughts on that? I hate that. It was to take the time to comment on a post this far removed from the season just shows that you haven't grown at all. The fact that she can watch herself through these terrible episodes. No, and it sounds like Sutton is in a good place with Sanjit, too. So, I mean, they're officially dating now. They're FBI Facebook official.

I like that. And our next question, and, ooh, I'm going to go wait on this one. k and w how do you defend garcell's two years of her attacks on erika it's nonstop and i'm over it k and w what show are you watching are you kidding me yeah i don't i don't know where they're coming from with this one but again i see a lot of people that are against garcell and i don't really get it especially this season i think that erika deserves everything that garcel's been doing to her if you want to put it in that way i wouldn't even do that just all of the Actions that are pointed towards Erica are results of her own actions.

Yeah, what is she attacking? The fact that Erica is withholding 750 grand from victims? Like, how on earth can you watch that scene and think that that's an attack on Erica? That's just calling out something that is going to be brought to attention because Garcel is on the reel, and it was a topic on the television show. And also, it's the elephant in the room. Everybody's fucking talking about it. When it gets down to, like, the nitty-gritty of it, Kyle brings it up.

There's an article about it. It says that you refuse. Dorit says you refuse to give the earrings back. That's what they're claiming. You need to handle this is what they're pretty much saying. That's not an attack. That's Erica fucking up. And Garcell being like, what the fuck?

So, CK&W, I don't know what show you're watching, but it's not the show that we're watching. Even that, even if you want to gloss over that, if you're going to say, okay, that's justified. And you were to throw in some of the other things that Garcell's come at Erica for. I mean, her drinking in the beginning of the season was bad. Did she come at her? Yes, kind of. Do you think that Garcel would have not stepped in had Erica not cursed out her son while drunk on tequila? Maybe, but she cursed out her son while drunk on tequila.

Of course she's going to step in and be like, Erica, you've been drinking, you bashed your head in, apparently, the night before. You cursed out my son, like, what the fuck's going on? That's valid. That's 100% valid. So, K&W, thank you for listening. We want you to keep listening, but we do not agree on this whatsoever. And that's okay. And that's fine. Everyone has their own opinions, and they're entitled to that.

From Tori McCown, which SLC housewife do you think will be Scooter's favorite? Oh, that's a good one. I like that scooter. Yeah, tell me. Ooh. Ooh, I really like this one. I don't know. I don't think Mary's coming back. Mary Cosby. Okay. But she would probably have been your favorite,

not because you would have liked her, but just because she's the alleged cult leader. Oh, fuck, man. And she is so intriguing because she's, like, from a different planet. It's, like, it's the most bizarre thing I've seen on any of the Housewife franchises because she doesn't make sense half the time.

There was one episode where she's, like, recapping to somebody. I forget who she's talking to, but, She's talking about two members of her church careened off of a cliff in their car and died. And she goes, she walks in and they're like, oh, how are you married? She's like, oh, you know, not great. Like two members of my flock drove off a cliff. Period.

They go, are they okay? No. They're dead. And then normal conversation. Did she refer to them as her flock? Was that a normal thing? I believe she said her flock. Yeah.

Well, if you watch the scenes in her church, it's very culty. Yeah, I'm going to have to go back and look at that one. But let's not close over the question. Current Housewives. Current SLC Housewives. We'll see if it rings true. Then I'm going to go with Heather. She's my favorite.

She's, like, fun, she's funny. She's the most normal of the group. I think you'll like her the most. Like, just enjoy watching her as far as, like, drama starting and stuff like that. you'll probably lean more towards like Meredith or Lisa, probably Meredith. She's like more of the shit stir because she's stubborn as hell. But Heather is just a blast. I enjoy watching Heather more than a lot of the housewives.

So I think I'm going to go with, and I know we don't think alike, so this might be totally off. But I think Heather, but definitely if Mary was still on it, and I'm not sure if she is or not, but if she is, then Mary's going to be your favorite. Well, I do like that I'm going into both SLC and Potomac, Clean Slate. Yep. So I'm going to have some very interesting takes, and I'm going to be so wrong in so many regards. But I'm not apologetic. I don't give a shit.

You know, you guys are going to have to deal with what I say. Yeah, that's kind of, you know, part of being a bra, bro. We get into these shows later. Like, we are fully entranced in all of it once we are into it. But, you know, our opinions don't align all the time because we don't have the backstories. But I do have the SLC backstory. So I'm really pumped to hear your take on it. I have the Potomac backstores.

That's my favorite. Like the fact that we get to at least follow up Beverly Hills with two of my favorites is like I'm just trying to keep trucking, dude. I'm just trying to get through these last few episodes to the reunion. Football will help. Football is definitely going to help. It's going to make this a lot easier of a process. But that's all we got. That's all I got.

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