Bros & Shows - Janet and Jason Stink as Jeremiah Ruins The Valley (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

What's up Bros? The Valley has certainly taken a turn for the worst. We blame Janet, Jason and Jeremiah for this abrupt shift. In this episode, Jax is getting out of 'rehab' the next day. The crew packs up his things into trash bags and removes them from Brittany's house. Janet and Jason continue to manufacture drama and contradict themselves. Danny gets lit and calls Janet out at the bar. Nia is fed up with the Janet show. Luke plans his engagement trip to Hawaii. This show is not good currently. We are hoping they can pull it out of the gutter and rebound but this was just a boring episode. We're nervous... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It was nice to finally have an episode where I didn't feel like I was watching something I wasn't supposed to be seeing. Yeah, it looks like it's time for other people to take over and realize what Bravo is done. And I really just mean the divorce lawyer. Like, oh, cool, you guys filmed this for your show? it's my problem. Thanks. Yeah, exactly. I got to have me my bros and shows. Brows and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brows and Shows. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Shooter McGueter.

What's up, dude? Not a whole lot. I forgot about the valley, which is good. That's a good thing. Yeah, I didn't really have it on my brain. And when I did watch it, I decided I'm just going to start making fun of this show. I'm done letting it, done letting the toy with my emotions with Bravo putting this production out here. I'm just going to make fun of it. It's stupid. It's dumb.

It's full of a bunch of idiots that I don't really care for. And I'm going to make fun of it. And I'm going to protect the people that I do like. Which is fair. And like I said, this episode at least wasn't like super dark and seeing a bunch of of shit that you're like, oh, God, we shouldn't be watching this. So that was, that was a relief. I didn't think it was a bad episode either.

It was kind of a whatever, which is fine with me. I'm fine with fine at this juncture. I'm fine with fine because we've gotten too many, like heavy, heavy, heavy shit. You know what it is? It's, it's August in the baseball season and we're just trying to get through the season, maybe get something that works towards the end, but we're not making the playoffs. We have no chance of winning the pennant. there's just nothing here we just have to get through it you know i'm just curious what it looks like

moving forward like i know there's going to be a valley cash shakeup they're talking about that i just i'm very curious how you move forward with this show it's just it's very very fractured right now i think the way our curiosity's work is very different because my curiosity really only peaks when i'm interested i don't care i know whatever they're going to do is going to be wrong i just know it based on the information that we read and if you haven't listened to our news episode yet, go listen to that because we do talk about Danny and Nia and the fake

departure post that was posted on Twitter that got some traction along with Carl leaving Summerhouse. I guess that's a new thing, so that's fun. Thanks guys. He's not leaving, by the way. Yeah, neither of them are leaving, actually.

So, yeah, so that didn't happen. But there were other rumors that they were talking about bringing Sandoval and Schwartz back and they're talking about bringing Jeremy Maddox back And it's just like, what are we doing? Why? I'm trying to run back VPR 2.0. And it's like, nobody wants to fucking watch that.

I think, I think we have to solemnly swear you and I, right now. That we're up to no good. That we're up to no good. Fuck, two days in a row of Harry Potter. Mischiff managed. What a time. What a time for us. Just, God, we're just quoting Harry Potter left and right.

What if that was our nervous tick? She's like, no, what do you have to mischief managed? What? You're a wizard, Harry. God, I don't know where my brain was going with that one. Anyway, but yeah, so I want to solemnly swear right now, if they bring back the rest of the cast of Vanderpump rules and throw them in with other people, we're not going to watch it. We're just not going to watch it. We're not going to recap it.

We don't need that. And you guys don't need that either. And I don't want all of you guys out there. It's been a while since we've done a hate watch where you guys forced us to watch something just so you can hear us rant and rave about it. We're not going to do it. So don't even try it. I'm not going to give a VPR offshoot. Any kind of, any kind of press or publicity.

Like, I knew. The fact that they're even discussing doing that is upsetting and frustrating. They had something here that was different. It was new. It had some familiar faces. And they went about it the wrong way this season. They decided to focus on the super shitty things, the super dark stuff. And like, I'm going to go on a rant later.

I already know it because I'm sick of it. But you know who it's about. And you know it's about two people that are ranting. Wait, did you watch the after show before, before, before, okay, good. No, just threw it on just because it's like I was eating dinner and I'm like, all right, yeah, you know, I'm done all of that. Let's throw on the after show. I haven't watched it in weeks. I wanted to turn it off almost immediately because it's just, yeah, of course he's on it.

He's on it, Lala's on it, Shane is on it, Brock's on it, fucking Schwartz is on it. I'm surprised Santavall hasn't popped his head in there somewhere. He's probably just tag team and with Schwartz at this point. So, yeah, that was annoying. but yeah I mean when it comes to jacks I I'm done caring I'm done being upset about it him getting airtime I'm just going to openly ridicule the guy and that's what we're going to do I'm just going to pull with that yeah good he deserves it but let's jump into this episode and I have to point out Jasmine and Zach roller skating it looked like a hazard honestly when

they're in the street going across I was like someone's getting hit by camera man was there yeah I know that was scary I made me a little bit nervous. But do these have breaks on them? No? They're the professional ones is what she said. You have the professional ones. I think you had inline skates. Yeah. I don't know. Why would you give Zach the professional and not tell them? Someone's got to let him know. Someone's got to let them know. Yeah. It's like you're playing golf and he got blades for the first time. You can't handle these bad boys. But let's get to the first scene of any relevance. That's Doty, Luke, and Z. Zach, and they are doing

little housewarming parties, so the whole crew is coming over. It's Doty and Luke's new rental, which looks super great, looks super nice. So I'm stoked for them. Big fan of those two. Big fan of that couple. We would have thought Doty and Luke would be the normal couple on this show. Not me. Didn't have that. Not me.

Not me for sure. They are just so adorable. God, he loves her so much. It's just so nice to watch. It's refreshing. You know what else is refreshing? Guess who apparently just became friends? Because last week we got a little cutaway like hey this is what everybody else is up to they're playing cornhole jesse and zach are now cool what what the yeah why are they friends now they're tight who cares

i'm cool like here's the thing with this show like i'm cool with people being nice to each other at this yeah yeah it's i don't need a bunch of emone enemies don't need a bunch of emmenees wow enemies like if everyone hates each other that's not fun to watch and that's like the point we're getting to it's just like conflict after conflict And then we get to watch an abusive husband and then conflict after conflict. It's like, I need the reprieve. We haven't had any reprieves in this show. I didn't hear a word you said after Eminis, because all I was imagining was Nemo's face on your body where you're like,

do you take a gummy before we started this? No, no, I think I'm just really full of food. I had beer you at tacos. Oh, nice. Love that. Love that for you. But let's talk about Scrotox, uh, which I, I was not aware of a thing.

I didn't know this is a thing. I thought it was different. I did know. I don't know why. Somebody brought it up to me recently or brought it up on a different show. I don't know exactly how it came about. I thought that it tightened the script. That's what I thought.

Why would you want a loose scrotum? Is it loose or does it just like make them a hang? Like which I mean, inherently would be loose. We don't have to get too graphic, but like the wrinkles go away. That's kind of where my head went. That's where my head went was like, okay. Yeah, it tightens it up. I don't know.

Nobody wants a wrinkly sack, dude. And why would Botox have that kind of effect on? I don't know. You should try it. I'll pay for it if you do it. Is it like, I don't know. And once they started talking about it, and they're like, yeah,

it just keeps dropping and dropping and dropping. That's where I was confused. And then I like the producer's question to Zach. It's like, why would you do that? If it makes them lower, he's not got a good response. You wanted to see what it felt like to have old balls. Yeah.

But yeah, that is a good response. And I'm not sure. I didn't get clarification. Did Danny get it or no? No, no, Danny did not get it. But Jesse said that he would get it, which was not very surprising. That's the least surprising news ever. I do want to merge this with Love Hotel.

Do you think if you got Scrotox and then got into a cold plunge, would your balls still have the same reaction? Oh, interesting. I don't know. Now, that's a test. You're going to have to do it. You're going to have to do it and let everybody know. No, we're just going to text Zach and say, hey, get it. no coal plunge.

Oh, actually, that's not a bad idea. Yeah, that's easier to do. Why have to go to it? Stop volunteering me for shit. But Janet and Jason arrive, and Danny's now cool with Jason. Again, we saw them squash the beef at the shark party previously. So his only issue is with Janet. Understandably so, by the way.

She's talking shit about him. So I get why he's flustered. And it's interesting, too, as he mentions later, because he was talking about how he hasn't really seen that. side of Janet before because he's never been on the receiving end of it. But now that he is, he's like hypersensitive to it. Yeah. But Jasmine's talking to Luke and they're recapping all the Jason stuff and the,

uh, what happened at the beach the other day. And Jasmine, rightfully so felt ganged up on because it was two against one in that moment. She was trying to talk to Jason and Janet kept interrupting them. But I do like that she goes over to the two of them and just says, hey, can we have a conversation at some point? You two, me and Melissa are in a sit. down and hash this whole thing out.

They're like, that sounds great. Jana can't help herself but say something patronizing, but that's neither here nor there. And they agreed to have a little sit down in the future. I didn't really know how to feel about it until, thankfully, Sheena was there to tell me how to feel about it, which was it was much more productive.

Thank you, Sheena, for your input. I am so happy you're getting screen time. Great. She got paid for that. She got paid for that. To say that and to say that and to say that she had salmon semen put on her face and then she got braids. Those are her lines.

What a fucking life, man. Dude, I wish I got paid to do that. I guess I technically do. Oh, yeah, when you put it that way. We literally just said that. And yeah, wow, good for us. Yeah, but we still do have to get the salmon semen put on our face. Maybe a little Father's Day gift to you.

This is an interesting podcast. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Salmon Siemens. Salmon Seaman is still five bucks. what the fuck this is what happens when we don't like a show this is what happens we're just trying to have fun what do you want yeah jesus but jena jena who we just met jennas a friend of zack jennett dated aaron and now detective jesse's putting on his hat trying to figure out exactly what this timeline is because i guess at some point michelle went home to or to aaron's house or something and caught him in bed with somebody else,

which also was said so very nonchalantly by Jesse. And I was like, this seems like it should be a bigger sticking point, but it's not. He's not making it a sticking point because he's still trying to do his detective work. He's holding a lot of information close to the chest, it seems, until there's more information that corroborates it,

and then he tells us. It's interesting. I swear to God, he's like fucking trying to catch the Zodiac killer. I guarantee you there's a room in that house where there's just strings yeah it's like Charlie and always sunny where there's just strings and everything

and he's just getting crazy probably doing ayahuasca again trying to like keep even keeled and just point in different pictures like I saw this I saw that I just want to know like what is it that Aaron offers like is he like is he luring people

back to his house with honey and he's like whoa I got some good honey I got some like drugs banging honey I got homes I guarantee you there's like drugs in his honey, too. Look at his face with those eyes. Allegedly. My God.

Off the rails. Yeah, I shouldn't have said guaranteed. Should have just said, I think. My opinion is. Allegedly, the honey spiked. Whoa. But as I was saying, Jesse heard from Luke about this whole situation with Michelle.

And they're claiming that they started dating a year and a half ago. Right? but Jenna's timeline's very similar. She's like, yeah, we started or we were dating like a year and a half ago. Now, I don't know what dating means anymore. The labels are too fucked out. Yeah, there's, oh, I don't know if they were exclusive. I really wanted to mess you up because there is actually a term.

I think it's slip back slip. It's back slip. So back slipping is when you go back to dating somebody that you had dated previously and you have like an extended period of time at them and then you break up again. So you backslip. Okay. That one I understand. That tracks.

Okay. All right, good. Good. But at the end of the day, Jesse's trying to figure out exactly what this timeline is to probably use it against Michelle at some point in the near future. When your investors, customers, and workers demand more from your business, make it happen with SAP. The AI-powered capabilities of SAP can help you streamline costs, connect with new suppliers, and manage payroll, even when your business is being pulled in different directions.

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Nah, he's dumb with that. Come on. Oh, you think? Yeah. Meanwhile, Luke and Danny are chit-chatting about the proposal. They're planning a surprise trip to Hawaii. And I just thought it was funny. You have to mention it's like, well, it's really hard to get anything by Doty

because she is a detective at the end of the day. So they're really trying to keep this one under wraps because he's going there to propose, which is so nice. And I guess it is really nice. Did that happen? Oh, it happens. Yeah. I just had a brain fart.

Yeah. It does happen on the show. did see the clip of it in the trailer mid-season trailer too right right on the boat on the boat on the boat in hawaii i guess i so it makes more sense now but it's i just i thought it was really funny that it's just like daddy and uh daddy and him just sitting on the bed like in his bedroom talking about this with cameras all around there's a little hard to heart it's just it brings you back to like the old vpr days where they're just like sitting on beds randomly in the middle of uh whatever's going on in the middle of a party it's just funny a couple of 40-year-old men just sitting

not a bed talking about a proposal. It's having a little heart to heart. You love to see it. Jacks is back to his bullshit, though, and Brittany's telling everyone about the text that she received. Jacks went to the front desk lady at his wherever he's at, his Airbnb that he's staying at from what it sounds like, and bullied her into saying that he was going to urgent care.

Once again, I don't know what this place is, but this sounds like the worst treatment center in the history of treatment centers for anything. The fact that you can let a client manipulate the front desk into lying for him is baffling to me. The fact that he did that is actually not that shocking because it's Jack's Taylor and I'm not surprised in the slightest. I mean, really, I feel like the only traveling that he did that night was from Schwartz's second bedroom to the front desk of the facility that he was supposed to be at to then yell at that person because Brittany's going to call this front desk and i'm not here so i'm going to bully you into saying that i'm here

but also that i went to the hospital so that's probably hell that went it's so crazy chance he's there i'm so tired of like it's funny because people online like they always come up with new things and they're like well actually slow down guys he was there for 30 days he did the rehab for 11 days i don't believe either i just give a shit either and it doesn't really matter because he hasn't changed at all based on the valley uh after show it i just i don't believe any of it none of it's believable like he went and got the mail he took all the fucking stickers down so he unleashed the cameras on brittany and her mom and then he'd had to like sick his sister on brittany to face time like the whole thing is just disgusting it just i'm just i'm so done with him

and all of it and if they i'm done with janet and jason's responses to it for them being like i'm too supportive that he's doing that with the podcast what he just what a change what a change in the last two days like what the fuck how dumb are you two too you didn't sit there and listen to this idiot and be like, good for you, Jackson, by the way. Jason started talking on an iPhone and finished the FaceTime with Jackson on Android. Did you see that? Yep. I saw that. Also, you want to know some more information that I got about Jason. He's a lawyer and the law that he practices. He defends, yeah, it's bird law. He defends corporations against people who are claiming workman's comp.

He's one of them? Yeah. Yeah, he's one of those. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah, that's pretty grimy. I mean, look, I'm sure there's people out there that fake it for sure. But, you know, that's a lot of people that don't.

I don't think. And they still get denied. And they still get denied and then they go to court and you feel good about yourself, buddy. Probably not. Maybe that's why he's up late night, can't sleep. That's tough. Yeah, guilty conscience much. Don't worry, though.

I've got, I've got just the thing. To cheer you up and to turn this show around. Michelle's going to go talk to Lala for a whole scene. God. I honestly, I thought that we were, I was fine with this, too. I thought we were going into Aaron's house. I was like, oh, Aaron's house. All right.

Let's see all the honey. He's got to have bees out back, right? Like, that would be fun. I don't know. You know I want bees. I'm not going to shit on him for that. Yeah, no, I'm not even shitting on for that. I actually thought that that part would be interesting when we saw that with Craig and Page too

in Southern Charm. that seems fine to me. I like that. No, this isn't Aaron's house. It's Lala's house. Great. What are we doing here? Michelle's unveiling, which sucks.

This scene, I will say this. Lala wasn't bad. It's just like her presence just pisses me off. Yeah. It's more so like I don't want her involved with this show. That being said, we are, we always give credit where credits do.

So I will say if anybody is in a similar. spot as Michelle that can actually offer some support and clarity on the situation because to Michelle's credit as well later she she doubles down on something and then I'm like okay I don't agree with that but she is going through a lot right now and Lala can offer her some kind of guidance because she's been through a similar situation with I'm sorry but a similar type of person a very manipulative man so it makes sense that they're talking it's just again when I see her. I'm reminded, like, you're just a transplant from Vanderpump, and that's where the show is headed, and that makes me sad. But what Michelle ends up unveiling is awful, and it adds way

more texture, Jesus. It adds way more context to the reactions to things. Is it? Yeah, either or. It does work. Yeah. In a weird way, I suppose. But it does. It just gives you more insight into, like, why this is so tumultuous because she does have a lot going on. She finds out that her mom thought she had food poisoning, went to the doctor, and she has stage four colon cancer. Her first round of chemo didn't work. She's starting her second round of chemo right now. And it's at the point where she's questioning how much time she has left because the cancer

spread through her whole body. So it's like you put that with this divorce from a narcissist. Like, yeah, that's a lot of shit to handle. So like I really feel for Michelle. And actually all things consider, I think she's done a pretty good job staying composed, was given all the things she's going through. Yeah, I mean, obviously, we always give her a hard time because she was apparently and admittedly so, the cheater in the relationship. But it's something like this.

It's important for the context to show where she is. She has to deal with Jesse who, yes, we can laugh at their interactions. We can laugh at how he is and how petty he is. But dealing with that, dealing with your mom going through all the things that she's going through. We didn't know this. Well, you know, as far as watching the show, we didn't know this going into it. We did find out, you know, through the grapevine on Twitter. Twitter that this was going on and she had admitted to it.

So it is a whole mess of a season for her. So it does put things in a context at the very least. And again, I don't really think she's not annoying me by any means. The people who show that are annoying me are Janet and Jason and then you can throw in pretty much the entire VPR cast. But everybody else, it's like, yeah, all right, whatever. Michelle, even, fine. Like your interactions are crazy.

But it's still part of the valley. So it's still an important part of the core cast that we do actually like and we liked last year. So you can keep this stuff coming. That's fine. Isn't it interesting, though, that where this show goes wrong is all of the extra stuff they're trying to do with it. It's not the originals. It's not what we like. It's not the people we like. It's the added bullshit that you guys thought would help this season for whatever fucking reason. And that is what's tearing this show down. That's what's so frustrating. That's why when you see Lala, it's instantly like, regardless if it's a good scene or not, it's just instant irritation. Because I'm like, here we go. They're

trying to shoehorn in Vanderpump 2.0, and I'm fucking sick of it. Yeah, we got producer Jerry and we got producer Karen. Oh, I'm not done with producer Jerry yet. Don't you worry. I'm saving it. What about producer Karen? She's new. I don't know producer Karen.

Oh, you don't know producer Karen? Janet, Karen. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Ooh, yeah, but between that duo, Karen and Jermaine. What a show. Woof. Let's get to Janet, Jason, Jasmine, and Melissa.

and they're going, Delacompadre, that looks like a cool little restaurant. I'm not going to lie. I love the old school like booths, big fan of the big fan of the day core in there. So I like that, but they're sitting down to clear the air, obviously, and it's awkward to shit right out of the gate. And Janet and Jason are both, you know, I'm just really confused about like how we got here, like where we're out. Shut up.

I know. Losers. Here's my thing. Okay. If this was a one-off, like out of the blue, this has never happened before, not just with Jasmine, but in your life, you've never had something like this go down, I would be more open to being like, what the fuck's going on? Janet, this has happened multiple times with multiple people. And at some point, like, there has to be some introspection. And the fact that both of

them sit there like, I don't know how the fuck this happened. It's like, not even a little bit, guys, like not even the teeniest iota. You guys really don't understand why people get irritated with you. I know what this is. This is just a bridge to Janet versus Kristen, obviously. Yeah. but it's just it really comes back to the way that they went about it when they first brought up the rumor you guys didn't freak out you guys didn't have some sort of visceral reaction you weren't negative at all you laughed it off you don't get to turn it around i don't care if you guys went home and had a conversation about it because of how you've been doing it and how janet's been operating it screams oh shit this is an opportunity for us to have a storyline let's just dig into this and we'll just do this for the rest of the season it's boring it's played it's out. It's stupid. We can see it from a mile away. And the best part is we're working through all of this. Jasmine and Melissa are just collateral damage at the end of the day. It's really just, like I said, it's just a bridge to get to Kristen. And Janet is asking Jasmine about how she found it out. When did you find it out? All of these things. And Jasmine's being honest. I didn't

tell Kristen. We found out through Zach through Kristen. And yeah, there's a whole fucking cycle that goes through. And that's how the news in the valley works. But at the end of the day, it's just to get back to Kristen and I love that Janet's response is oh so Jasmine's not the mastermind behind this it's Kristen Janet you calls Jasmine a mouthpiece I was like that's yeah after she just clears the air with her it's fucking rude but also it's really funny to me because this was just a throwaway comment by Kristen because you guys were pissing her off yeah too much when it came to Danny you accused of being an alcoholic you messed things up with Nia Nia now hates you you pissed off Kristen's friends so Kristen just had a little throwaway comment she compiles information all over the place she's

a detective of the valley she's just going to throw this out there and see what happens you're taking this like it's a huge piece of meat like oh yeah we're really going to sink our teeth into this this is great evidence that i can go after Kristen i hope that Kristen when janet brings this up just goes are you fucking kidding me yeah that was just the tip of the iceberg do you know how much more shit i have about you guys i can break out whenever i want to like i want an actual threatening christin I don't want like a docile, Kristen, because she could easily just look enough. I hope, I just hope so because Janet deserves it. She can't hang with Kristen.

She thinks she can, but she can't. That's the funniest part of what's happening at this point in the season is she thinks that she's on that level. She's talking like, shit. Now, it's crazier that we found out that her and Kristen sat down to squash the ring thing before we saw that freak out at Sheena's house where she was like, oh, this bitch now she's got a target on her back. I was like, you just squashed it with her.

you two-faced asshole like it's just showing you and we talked about this last week they're manufacturing nonsense they're trying to create a mountain out of a molehill as you said christin threw this out there just to be like hey don't fuck with my friends didn't think it was that deep she also says i didn't hear it from jasmine she's not the one that told me so the fact that janet keeps double triple and quadrupling down with jasmine like well well you told us that that you told Kristen. Kristen told us that. It's like, no, no, we have video evidence and you show the one clip of Jasmine saying, yeah, yeah, but that was like a quick response. You said, oh, Doty told you, and she was in the middle of the moment of telling you what was going on and just through, she just

responded. I don't think that that was a genuine response, but Janet takes that and runs with it. Her and Jason sit down. They get all riled up over nothing. Then here we are. And that's the thing that happens, you know, away from the show part of it, like not, not that, away from the group part of it and like what they're all going through and how they're arguing about this what this does by highlighting this once again it makes the show bad we don't care we don't care about this nobody cares about this this is a nothing issue that we don't want to get stuck on and we're now what three episodes in talking about it yeah at this point it's at least three and at the end of the day the only people the only people on these shows on reality tv shows that have to manufacture

storylines or feel like they have to manufacture storylines are just not interesting people. Your life's not interesting. Your personality's not interesting. You're annoying. You're boring. Worst of all on reality TV. You shouldn't be here at the end of the day.

This is a casting issue. It really is. And I know that she's been waiting in the wings since the VPR days because she's been friends with all these people. She jumped at the opportunity to join this show. She was a fan of the show. You and your husband are the most boring people on this show and you're trying to force an interesting story by sticking your nose where it doesn't

belong. And at the end of the episode, you do the same thing. So that's all you're really up to. It's fucking insane. This has none of these things ever had anything to do with you. A comment was thrown out about Jason because of your behavior. If you were just a normal person and you were somewhat interesting, you'd be fine. People wouldn't be going after your husband. If you liked everybody else and treated them well, you wouldn't have to worry about any of this. But instead, you're getting the things back that you were putting out into the universe and now you're all fucking self-defense and reactionary and you've got to go after people like no and you're going to lose too because you're boring yeah and it's just this victim mentality like what was us and again refusing to look

in the mirror and say how did i cause this what was my role in this everyone else is wrong but not me it's so fucking annoying it's really getting on my nerves but this got on my nerves more than anything else in the episode. And I hit my limit with it. And I'm glad you're at a point now where you can just giggle it off. I'm not there. And this was the last straw for me because... Jack's reporting live from Schwartz's second bedroom?

I'm so fucking done with the Jacks. I'm so fucking done with the Jack's sympathy confessionals. I'm so fucking done with them forcing these in there in the middle of the episode with zero context, zero relation to the episode to try to pull at our heartstrings as though Jacks Taylor is even remotely redeemable. He is a huge piece of shit, and that is very evident based on the after show that we're seeing, based on the clips that we've seen from later in this season, based on the fact that he's not taking this seriously, based on the fact that he went to rehab for 11 days

and then bounce, he's not trying to get better. But Jeremiah, producer Jerry, motherfucking Germain, who just wants to get his hands on these shows and throw them in a direction that nobody else wants, this has his stink all over because we watched them try to force a sand of all redemption arc, which was a fucking train wreck. And now, with an even more deplorable character in Jacks Taylor, we're trying to do that again. We're trying to make it seem like Jacks is not the biggest piece of shit

on the face of the earth by putting these scenes in there with no context. We don't need to see this, Jermaine, Jeremiah, whatever the fuck your name is. We don't need to see Jacks Taylor talking to the camera that we're sitting there going, oh, he's really going through it and listen to his message. He says he's putting the work in. He's doing this. He's doing that.

He's been rage texting his wife from this place the entire time, spying on her. Oh, he re-ch-texted Schwarz, too, by the way. Rage-texted Schwartz. Because Ethan, wait, hold on, because he thought he saw Schwartz's shoe in the picture at Brits. How fucking funny is that? It's insane. It's not to me. Because, again, it's like, you want to try and even remotely say that this dude is any kind of

different or better, and they're trying to do that intention. and that's all fucking Jeremiah, this guy is the worst. And if Bravo has him back on a show, we're going to start doing some scouting. And if I see that Jeremiah is associated with a show, we may not watch it. I'm so sick of this guy fucking up Bravo shows. He has a long history of it. Yet we keep giving him the reins to good shows. So that's it.

This was a, oh, baby. I'm so sick of Jackson's Confessionals. I'm done with them. I will not talk about them anymore. I'm so sick of this fucking bullshit redemption art that he does. not deserve and I'm sick of Jeremiah force feeding us that these shitty dudes are actually good people

while not even paying attention to the women on the show. Fuck Jeremiah, fuck Jacks, and fuck this show honestly. Okay, I'm good now. I don't even know what his name is anymore actually. It's Jeremiah. Are we sure? Yeah, we call him Germain, but his

name is Jeremy. I don't know. I don't know anymore. We've said so many different names, but yeah, dude, fucking video diaries are so funny and there is a chance and i love this idea that it's not a redemption arc that it's to hold him accountable that it's like hey we're going to throw these out there and everybody can now see how much of a manipulative piece of shit he is and i love the people are trying to do a spin zone and it's really just like it's got to just be people online doing mental gymnastics like

they wouldn't try to like give him a redemption arc right like we're not right they wouldn't do that they would no no there's no way they could do that for jacks like Santaval sure why not all right but jacks i don't think they would give them maybe they're just holding them accountable they're getting this on film and putting it on live tv so everybody can see what kind of a piece of shitty is like yeah okay that's the dumbest pop dot ever whatever wishful thinking you want to do yeah to make your self feel better while you're watching this and i love like the rage texting has now been upgraded to rage emailing yeah it's fucking sending emails now like what a psycho and it's got it i can only imagine what those uh those rage

emails are it's just like one run on sentence with like no no punctuation and except like a few exclamation points in like random spots that don't even apply yeah oh god and i bet you he sends it too like you know how on gmail you can send it as urgent oh yeah with like that he probably puts a red receipt on it too so he knows when brittney reads it and then he goes on the cameras And he's like, I can see you're fucking reading it right now. Yeah, I'm watching what she does shit. Let's see what she does. Is that Schwarz shoe?

Are you fucking my way? Dude, what? Fuck off, man. So done. I'm so over. Let's get to Britt, Janet, Zach, and Michelle. And, uh, fucking awesome. I can't tell you how many steps back Michelle took for me in this moment.

Yeah. Who the fuck is too good for fast food? I don't care if you're, if you have an elevated palate. They don't have fast food at the Chateau, brother. That's right. Sorry. Me and Q, we don't eat that.

Tarantino, no, he doesn't do fast food. He just does feet. But, dude, they had Taco Bell. They had McDonald's. They had dominoes. I think there was one other thing on there. That's my kind of spread. They got that, I don't know if it was a brookie or.

Is it the brooky? I always saw the commercial and I was always interested. in doing it and I never got it, but seeing it in this moment, I'm like, that's pretty cool. I like that. You know who sells one and it's actually pretty good? Oh, 7-Eleven. Oh. Right by the desk, I don't think I've been to a 7-11.

Right by the register, uh, there's, there's a brooky and it's actually not bad. I think of Wawa probably has brookies every once in a while, depending on which Wawa you go to. Oh, yeah, that sounds like a, like, special item. Yeah. Yeah, probably. But this looked awesome. And I wasn't even hungry. I just, I just wanted it, you know?

I did too. I love the idea. So, Michelle, don't be that person. They don't do fast food. Shut up. Beat the fast food. But what they're doing there is packing up all of Jacks's shit, which I'm all for, pack it up, get it the hell out of here.

There's no reason to keep this shit in the house. Don't give them a reason to come back to the house. You are watching Britney go through a whole slew of emotions here. Yeah. They're packing up Jack's his life. And, you know, part of me understands it. There's a big part of me that's like, dude, haven't you had enough? But at the same time, like, yeah,

Like, there is a semblance of you're saying goodbye to your old life, even though it was a miserable life. It was still what you used to. So I get, I get the emotions. But she is at a point now, which is nice to hear where she's like, you know, I still love the guy and part of me wants this and that. She's like, but I need to be strong and not go back and I need to do it for Cruz. It's like, thank God we're finally thinking about this kid because somebody needs to at this point. Yeah. We've watched too many scenes of panning back to cruise.

Cruz's reaction while shit's going haywire. So at least we're thinking about them finally. About time. But this is when you get Michelle starting to talk about the lack of support that she's gotten. And I agree, actually. When she brought that up, I was like, you know what? You don't really have that much support. I mean, I get why.

It's because Jesse's part of this group, too. And this seems to be more of a, we're just not going to address what's going on between these two. Yeah. We're just all going to act like, you know, we know what's happening. I think it's partly that, but also I kind of go back to the scene that we got in the beginning of the episode with Lala. We don't see scenes with Michelle with a Janet, with a Britney sitting down and talking about these things. It doesn't seem like they really are friends with Michelle. And, you know, they're friendly with Jesse, but Jesse's got way more of like a dominant personality.

So he probably just, he's always around that he's always talking to people. Michelle doesn't really have that. So she doesn't assert herself into the friendships. So it almost feels like she's out of place here. And I know, you know, it's kind of, it's probably pretty tough, honestly, to be on the show if you want to look at it from that standpoint, because you don't really have friends on the show. You've got a friend in Lala who's barely even on the show. And that's where you have to have your tough conversations. But you're expected to have these conversations on camera with other castmates.

And she's not really that close to. I never really thought about that. Yeah. So it's probably really odd. It's kind of peculiar. And it might actually explain why she's so fucking awkward in these scenes when she's talking. And like, it gets to the point. And, you know, we have another point later when we're at Brittany's bar where she's talking about it and she's talking about it like, I need support from these women and I'm not getting it.

And it's tough to watch them do all this stuff for Brittany, but not for me. And it's the simple answer is you're not friends with them. Brittany's friends with all of them. And that's kind of where we are. But it's probably really weird for her to go through that whole mental state to go through all of that and look at everybody else. Like, holy shit. We're both basically going through the same thing. Like, yeah, Jack's is crazy and he's way crazy.

than Jesse but at the same time we are going through a lot of similar stuff and we both have a kid around the same age and she's being affected by it cruz is being affected by it to a much higher level but why is no one talking to me about this why is everybody just ignoring it and i think it is partly what you're saying everybody just kind of addressed it like we're going to stay out of this we don't want to be in the middle of you guys because that could be worse so we're just going to watch from afar and it could also be because michel's not asking for help i don't really know what it is but it's pretty odd. And that's what kind of struck me is when we see those conversations where she's being real,

it's not with anybody that's really on the show. That's interesting. Yeah, I never thought about that. Let's keep truck. And we get Brittany with her divorce lawyer and watching her come to the realization of just how bad it is in this scene. I was like, thank God that you finally snapped out of it because this divorce lawyer, this divorce lawyer, she's reading like she shows her the text messages.

she brings up what's going on the taxes which is insane he owed 1.2 million in back taxes so they lumped it onto their mortgage yep so their mortgage and i always wondered why they were paying $17,000 that's yeah that makes way more sense yeah they lumped it into that yeah because i was like there's no i know it's a nicer house and it's like in a nice area or whatever i was like there's no way you're paying 17 grand a month no when you're paying 1.2 million in taxes back that makes a lot more sense so yeah she leads off with that and like adding the taxes to the mortgage then he stopped paying the mortgage and then she shows the text and the attorney's like trying to be professional but she's like this is but yeah this is bad this is this is really bad really bad oh he's talking

you he's watching the cameras yeah that's pretty bad that's great yeah that was i i love the one uh the one tweet that i did see was just the lawyer's reaction with her actually blaming Bravo like oh so you guys caught this on camera and just perpetuated the situation now I have to clean up the mess and deal with yeah thanks bravo we appreciate it and that's absolutely what they're doing there's no other way to look at it bravo knows what's going on they have so much film they film these people so much and we've seen countless times that jacks has been awful to brittany through vpr through this way worse in the valley than it ever was on vpr and now we're looking at it like why are we watching this why are you sure

you guys stop filming why didn't you stop immediately have an emergency we've seen so many seasons of bravo shows just shut down restart retool kick people off the cast you could have done this very easily in the second episode i don't get why and then redid the whole thing i don't give a shit what you have to do i don't remember i think the first episode was like brittney's white party probably you can just push that a week push it a week get jacks out of the picture let's see where Brittany is, if he's still implicating himself and he's still getting involved in all this shit, you need to shut it down. That's what they should have done.

That's not what they did. Instead, they were like, oh, wow, this is, this is great reality TV. Everybody's going to want to see this. Like, fuck off. No, no, we don't. You were wrong. It does get her to sign the papers, though. So she files for divorce then and there, which is great, good for you.

Get the fuck away from that guy. But they're planning a get-together tonight at Jacks's, but now it's called Brits. Hell yeah. So they're changing the entire. I think it actually is Brits now, isn't it? Didn't they officially change the name? I have no idea. The bar dramas out there in L.A.

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we can do movies together hot Zach's response is the correct response don't give me the oh he's in a mental health facility he's fragile no he's not this man's not fragile and that is the correct reaction to anybody

that's finding sympathy for Jack's Taylor he's proven who he is time and time again he doesn't deserve the sympathy I've said this a million times but I'm glad Jack's or sorry Zach had their reaction but everyone arrives to the bar and the overlying sentiment is how everyone's saying how bad Jacks is going to take this

this is not going to be a good thing yeah Jason is like oh this is you know he'll think it's funny but like I'm not helping it's like why do you still have allegiance to Jacks why does anyone still have allegiance to Jacks in any way shape or form Jesse well the Jesse thing was interesting and this isn't like me doing a Jesse bit I know what he means and I get where he's coming from

for normal people, but when it comes to Jags, like everybody, yeah, everybody watching is just like, yeah, no. And I think at the core, it was pretty much, he's going to come out, and this is the first thing that he's going to just immediately go after. He's going to be in attack mode as soon as he comes out of here.

It's less so of a, I feel bad for the guy. Like, fuck, he just went through 30 days of mental health facility, and, you know, he's going to come out and try to get his bearings, and this is the first thing he's going to do. I didn't really get that from it as much as, yeah i don't think we should be parading around doing this like he's going to have a crazy reaction to this and it could get worse is kind of where i was coming from jesse i got jesse's vibe

it's more like that boy i don't want to hurt him i think i'm mixing my own emotions into it too because honestly like yeah it is a fun moment it's very supportive it's very nice but the day before he comes out we're going to give him this ammo we've seen how bad it gets do you we really want to provoke it and poke the bear and make this even worse he's going to come out the next day and that's the first thing that he's going to do. And even on the after show, he was talking about this more than her fucking filing for divorce. He's talking about the bar.

So this is a, it's a hit to his ego, which is really all he holds near and dear. So we're really going to provoke this and have him come out firing on all cylinders. We need to probably all be with Brittany. We need to just be near her for the next week or so until he figures something else out. That's what they should be doing. But no,

I don't think they're going to. I think this was the right move because here's the thing. And this is a very true thing with people that go to rehab or any kind of treatment center. When you get out, it's not like the slate's wiped clean and you start from like zero with everything. You fucked up. So now you got to deal with the consequences. The consequences are when you get out, your shit's packed in trash bags in the garage. Oh, yeah, I have no problem with that.

I know you don't. I'm just saying like where I'm coming from this, it's like, fuck him. I don't care what his reaction is. Make sure the people around Brittany to protect Brittany. make sure that you keep her away from them but fuck the guy is what I'm thinking like protective people

not just like Janet like what is she going to do Jason's going to be like you did such a good job buddy you need to be less so hard on yourself like that's the type of shit that he's going to get when he gets out they're going to handle him the fucking king gloves

but that's ridiculous that's my point so fuck that throw all this shit at him make him deal with it make him face it make sure Britney's protected but from what you're saying the vantage point that you're coming from was not the vantage point that Jesse or anybody else was coming from.

That's what bothered me. Your vantage point is, hey, let's not do this for Britney's sake. Their vantage point is let's not do this for Jacks's sake. And that's stupid. Fuck, Jacks. It deserves all of this. So I agree with you for like Britney's protection and safety.

Like, yeah, it's a risky thing. But if you're worried about Jackson's feelings of them, I know you're not, but like Jason and Jesse, fuck the guy. This is what happens. You do stupid shit. You have to deal with them. consequences. But anyway, I'm trying to stay calm. This pisses me off so much. But Janet

and Michelle are talking and Michelle's talking once again about the lack of support that she has and like meeting her girls right now. And this is where she lost me. Because she's like, we're going to the same thing. If not worse. I was like, no, no, not even remotely. Jesse's an asshole. But like, come on now. You can draw parallels. Sure. There are a certain point. There's some similarities in there. Yeah, the timing pretty much spot on. Great.

They're both divorced. You lose me after that. You move me. I'm completely out after that one. You can't, you get about here. Brittany's still climbing and it's getting more. She's still going up and it's getting worse and worse every day.

Yours is kind of here. It sucks. Yours is actually somehow like simmering over the last like week or two. Why don't we, you know, off the brakes. Yeah. To compare like that,

I was like, ooh, you lost me there. But. Yep. Well, this is all going on. Danny's hitting the bottle pretty hard. I will say,

Danny's not plaster blackout drunk, but Danny's definitely drinking a little bit heavier than usual. And you can tell, I think part of it's being in this setting. I think he's kind of had it with some people in this group, and I think that's what I can say from what I've seen with Danny. They need to get off the show so bad. Oh, my God, they need to run.

I wish that that announcement was real that they weren't coming back. That's a lie, dude. I'd be so supportive of that. So would I. But he strikes me as somebody that uses alcohol to cope with situations. I think that's what he's doing here because he's really, really upset with Janet. He's irritated at this whole situation,

feels uncomfortable. So he leans on the bottle a little bit. I don't think that's a great idea. But I also don't have enough information once again to claim that he does or does not have a drinking problem, which is very important. I like what Luke said. Luke said that he's basically the biggest lightweight in the entire group. Yeah.

He's like, yeah, you know, he didn't really drink a whole lot, but it's Danny. And when he does drink, it gets worse. And he's also mixing shit back and forth. He's doing shots. He's having a big old beer. He's going back to a mixed drink. Like, he's almost like a 17-year-old drinking that can't handle his shit. And that's kind of like what he resorts to.

And I get it too. And obviously, you know, the lead up to all of this was, uh, yeah, we know, let's, let's hold off on what we talk about Danny. Let's see how this episode goes. Yeah. And foundationally in his argument, he just hates Janet, which no problem there. You want to have words with Janet, fine. Once your wife steps in and says, hey, leave it, you have to leave it.

You have to leave it. Your point has been proven. But I also do wonder when Nia says leave it, I think she's, yeah, slightly embarrassed because Danny's drinking again and he's just kind of like going off. But also she's thinking it's Janet. Janet is going to use this as ammunition. and then she's going to return fire to me, not to you. And I'm going to be the one that has to handle it, which is definitely part of it.

But it gives Janet more motive to go after things. And it's like, I get, I know you're frustrated with Janet. I get it. And I really want to see her get her come up and it's not going to happen in this setting. It's just not. Instead, what happens is, and again, the root is he's pissed off at Janet. So he's saying things to Janet. And he's annoyed with how she moves and operates.

And he's calling her out while he's also drunk. And Mia tries to shut it down. That's where Danny went south is by continuing to go further. It's like you should have listened to your wife. And it does. It gives Janet the ammo that she, let me rephrase that. Janet thinks that she has ammo now to throw in him because up dark side,

Danny at his finest. I'm like, what? What are you talking about? He's going after you for being an asshole. You are an asshole. People are trying to calm him down. He's not like following suit, but he's not like losing his shit and being in a person.

like he has in the past. It is not the same as comparing it to what he did with Jasmine and Melissa. That was bad. That was really bad. We can all agree to that. Nothing there of the similar nature. Nothing at all. She tells him Danny Darko and shit.

Jason's like, relax, buddy. If that guy said relax, buddy to me, I would, oh, my God. I would see red. Like, shut up. I'm just so sick of this false narrative. losers they are that's just loser energy where they're keep trying to come up with stuff and finally jesse gets dana to get up he's like jay let's go for a walk come on dude let's let's get out of here gets him up and that's when janet goes we're not the ones out here grabbing asses all right

time out because this whole fucking thing has been about the fact that you're not going to talk about other people you're not going to get involved in other things all right cool sick this was between danny jasmine and melissa this was discussed this was squashed this is no longer an you. Once again, you were mad because Danny's getting pissed off at you, Janet, for an issue that you have squashed. So you don't want his opinion because it has been settled. There's nothing to talk about. So in the same moment that he's walking away, you contradict yourself as the captain of hypocrisy and do the same fucking thing and bring up the ass grabbing again. That was squashed. It's not her place. Not even remotely. It's just it's just it's not her place regardless of the situation, regardless of Jasmine and Melissa sitting down with Danny. sitting there. They squashed it. I don't care if Janet knows if they squashed it or not. It's not your place. And also, who have you been beefing with for the last two weeks? Oh, yeah, Jasmine. For what again? Oh, a rumor that she didn't actually perpetuate that she had said somebody else years ago that then kind of got back to Kristen and she brought it back up. But you held her feet to the fire and made her feel like the

asshole and ganged up on her on the beach with your stupid husband. But yeah, no, now you've got Jasmine's back. Sure. Yeah. That's what you want to do. You're not being a supportive friend. And I don't care if that's how you're going to spin it and be like, you know, I just, I'm not going to stand idly by while he's doing this again. He's not doing it again. And also, Jasmine was there. If Jasmine had a problem with it and she could have spoken up. Hey, this, it's definitely getting to that point again when it comes to Danny where he's doing this again. Then, yeah, maybe you can speak up about him being drunk and making people uncomfortable.

Fine. Whatever. But she didn't do that. This is Jasmine's thing. They squashed it. This has nothing to do with you. And you're just doing exactly what you're claiming other people are doing. So it's just, but that's what I hate them so much.

They're the worst couple on reality TV right now. They're the most unlikable couple on Bravo and it's not even close. It's not even close. I can't even come up with like a second worst at this point. No, I really can't. Like they're that insufferable. They're worse than like Alexis and Johnny Jay. Like it's just bad.

I can't stand them on there on the screen. I can't stand them and. Yeah. Danny goes over to Nia and tells her the Danny darko thing or dark side Danny. And Nia's like, she feels the same way we do. It's like, that's not what's going on here. And that's fucking insane to draw comparisons between this night and the night that he actually fucked up. And he calls her a snake.

And of course, Michelle, like, slithers over there and goes, he just called you a snake, Janet. And I'm like, what are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? Just trying to get, you want support. You just want friends. So you're that you're doing some slime. me shit and then Janet puts on her psychology hat this couldn't be further from the truth this is the dumbest summation I've ever heard she's like well first of all I'm not the ass grabber

shut up shut up about that shut up to stop and he's mad at himself and he's misplacing his anger because he knows he fucked up what are you talking about you hear yourself what a ridiculous statement like what a self-important oh fuck me you must still think that the that the inappropriate behavior from Danny is, like, still a very hot button issue. Apparently. We're still like, the audience is sitting here thinking, oh, God, is he getting drunk again? Oh, man, is he going to make them feel weird? Is something going to happen here?

And here comes Janet, our white knight. She's going to help us out here. God, like, it couldn't be further from that. We were over it. I'm so happy that they squashed it. He seemed incredibly remorseful. He got a better understanding about how Jasmine and Melissa operate. how everything works in their world

versus what works in his world and how he had stepped over a line and he apologized for it and Jasmine accepted his apology and they've moved forward this still has nothing to do with you you're not a white knight you can't just throw this shit around

you can't perpetuate this and I do kind of hope in the next episode this gets back to Jasmine and Jasmine has the same reaction that we are it has nothing to do with her it just has nothing to do with Janet and she's using other people's issues to try to further her own

shit and it's just trying to further her own narratives yeah she is the snake in the grass she is and then she triples down in this moment and says he has a drinking problem i'm like can you fucking not call him an alcoholic for one episode she dated an alcoholic she knows yeah you're right my bad i forgot an alcoholic and an addict so she knows stop talking janet and like please watch the season back without your head up your ass so you can see how many things you you claim other people are doing and how much of those things you do yourself because she lives lives in a glass house Janet is the queen of glass house island and she lives inside throwing rocks all day long I'm sure over Janet and Jason they're not likable they're not like oh I don't like this couple

but they're good for TV they're miserable people they are ruining the show and I really need them to fuck off now. For my mental health. This is what happens when shows take a turn. Here we are. Sure is. Before I bash my head in with my microphone. Don't worry.

We're doing Love Island. Yeah, that's true. That'll cheer me up. First one up here from Liv Tate. Was this episode extremely boring? Also, why did Jesse try to make us feel bad for Jax? The producers are also making us try to feel bad for Jax. Oh, yeah.

I forgot about it. about that last scene in the whole thing. I'll just wrap it up. Jesse's picking up Jackson rehab. And this is where I was like, wow, Jesse, they're really going to take this stance of the whole thing. He's defending Jacks this entire time. He's trying to defend Jacks involving Brittany in the bar. Like, why would you turn it into Brits? He had you involved in the process. Do you forget last season, Jesse, we saw it. She had to force her way in there to do anything because Jacks was trying to gate keep the bar from her. And her ideas were the only good ideas. So that's not true at all. And we don't care about the regression or potential regression

of Jacks because he's not doing anything the better situation. So, Jesse, shut the fuck up. Back to questions. Back to questions. From Car Millionaire, am I missing something? What was so quote unquote dark about Danny in this episode? Drunk, yeah, but dark, no. It's Janet reaching

because she's boring and has no life her story. Yep. Boo. Wait, is that the same Jenna? Sorry, from Oh, it's Angela. Kristen and Jenna being cool after she slept with James while they were still together. Is that the same, Jenna?

I don't remember that in season three, four. I can't remember. No, James was later than that. Um, I don't know. I got to do some dig in there. I can't, I can't comment on that. I can't really remember, but I honestly, think about it this way.

There were points where, Ariana and Kristen Doty were good friends on VPR. Like, these people just become friends. They still are good friends, no. Yeah. Yeah. They just become friends with people that their exes have cheated on the width. It's LA, maybe.

You know, Hollywood. From Jacqueline Michelle Kress, boys, have you ever had Botox in your boys? No. We have. No, but well-worded question. Nice job. Shooter's going to. I'm paying for it.

He will report back. I don't want to I'm tired, Grandpa From Egan's 1, 2, 3 theory Everyone puts up with Janet because they're scared of her What? I don't know if there is to be scared of What do you do be scared of? Maybe being annoyed by her constantly

But she's not a tough imposing figure She's an idiot I know that's mean to say But that's where I'm at I don't care anymore From Bella GR in 1985 Do you think we can get rid of Janet and Jason in the show will still be okay

I don't like them you can get rid of them I still have the theory that the show is going to end after next season I think they're just they're spiraling at this point I don't think we're going to get much more I hope they're able to rally because I will chalk it up as you know

I don't want it to happen it's just one's been great and this one is fading so next year's make a break but they need to know yours is all based off of the potential VPR swing. Yeah, if we start to see more Schwartz and Sandoval and Jeremy Maddox, like that's when

you know why. If that happens, then you guys collectively know this show is not going to make it. Yeah, and we probably won't watch it. Um, from Sweet Sarah 10, are we going to see Crazy Kristen this season or is this a new calm era? She's definitely a new calm era, so I don't want to take away from that, but I would love to have one, just one, hop off from O.G. Doty.

Just fucking set Janet straight. Please show Janet why she can't hang with the big dogs. I agree. And we'll do one more in here if I find something good. Damn or something good. Oh, here we go. Jay Bay the Hut

713. Wellness check. Scale of 1 to 10. How aggravated were you by the end of the episode? A cool 13.2. Yeah, I wasn't aggravated. I was just bored, to be honest. Yeah, I was, I was very irritated if he couldn't tell by this episode. Yep, well, that's it for questions.

Can't wait to watch next weeks. Boo. Well, the one good thing is we get to do my favorite now, and that's the Love Island, and that'll cheer me up big time, big time to Jim. Big, big time. Hell yeah. But you got anything else? Nope.

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