Bros & Shows - Jax and Lisa Reunite at Sur (Vanderpump Rules Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Sup Bros?? We watched this weeks VPR, and it seems as though the show is slowing down a bit. In this weeks episode, the main story line is that James doesn't wanna leave Hippie for a long weekend, to accompany his girlfriend to a close friends wedding. We do get a Jax and Brittany return to VPR and Jax was arguably the most enjoyable part of this episode. He and DJ James are hosting a brunch together at Sur, despite Lisa apparently knowing nothing about it. Jax and Lisa still aren't on great terms but after an awkward back and forth they seem to clear the air. Katie and Schwartz have never been better seemingly as their chemistry is through the roof right now. No, Katie shouldn't get back together with him, but watching them interact right now is kinda fun. They're both talking to the same girl, Tori, and it will be interesting to see where that goes. Brock and Scheana are still trying to figure their stuff out as far as communication and the nanny situation and what Brock's future/ career aspirations look like. Schwartz gets a tattoo and Sandoval is still dead set on them being roommates... The episode ends with a blowout at James' as Sandoval reminds Scheana that she was once the other woman... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well, we get to sit here and we get to talk about a dumpster fire, and right after the dumpster fire, we get to talk about our favorite show on Bravo right now. Yeah. And you'll never guess which one's which, if you're listening to this six weeks ago? You wouldn't, because we're both loving the valley, which is not what we're talking about this episode.

We're about to talk about VPR, which I have lost most interest in at this point. Most? Because, not all, because, look, I've loved Vander. Vanderpump was my first love. You know this. So I will always hold out hope for this show. It has simply gotten boring.

It is a boring show. It is. I feel like we're watching the same episode week in and week out. Nothing's really changing. Sandoval's still a giant piece of shit. He's always going to be a giant piece of shit. Other people seem like they're moving on from this show. Katie and Ariana seem like they have bigger and better things to do.

Rightfully so. Good for them. Sheena and Brock, I don't really care. Lala is doing whatever she can to stay relevant right now. She's talking all kinds of shit about people she was friends with for a long time. I'm not sure what the fuck her approach is other than relevancy. I don't understand what direction this show has gone. It's flat out boring. It's flat out boring. And I even said that you when I walked in, the best parts of this episode involved Jacks Taylor. Which is shocking. Which is very weird to say out loud, but it is very true. The rest of this show stinks, and I don't want to watch it anymore. And we're hearing so many different, like, grumblings about what might be going on, whether Ariana is going to leave, is Katie going to leave? I know that you and I sort of disagree on this a little bit.

I don't want any of them to go to the valley. I don't want to see Sheena. I don't want to see Lala on the Valley anymore. I'm tired of them. We've seen them for 11 seasons. Their show sucks. Don't bring that negative energy over to a good new show because I don't want to watch. it. I agree to a certain extent. And we have talked about this before. I think there's a world in which you can bring some of them over and not be terrible. I think that you have a lot of pitfalls there that could allow for the show to suck if they do that. And I think, you know, the more we've discussed it, why I agree with you more so than I have in the past, what I don't want to happen is people go over from Vanderpump to the valley. And then we get Vanderpump 2.5.

Yep. Like, we need fresh drama. We need new drama. We need new people to watch that are captivating. And the Valley has done that against all odds. Everybody that I know that talked about this show, we talked about this show, other content creators, whatever, nobody pegged this show for being successful. No. We thought it would come out of the gate, be entertaining for a little bit, and then fizzle out maybe.

That was like the highest hopes I had for it. Yep. No, it's a good fucking show. It's working. So I think it's naive to think. that they're not going to try to bring anybody over, especially assuming that, you know, there have been rumblings as well,

that this may very well be the last season of Vanderpump. And for those of you that don't remember, this show was getting canceled. Like, they were going to take this off the air after last season, but Scandival saved the show. And I think what we're getting now is a reminder of why this show started to fizzle out. And, like, it's just boring.

So, yes, I agree. I would rather the Valley, stay put the way it is because it's working rather than try to infuse some VPR blood in there. But Bravo being Bravo, I think we're naive to assume that that won't happen. Yeah, and I think it's going to happen too, just because I think everybody sees the writing on the wall. They understand that VPR is going downhill once again very quickly because they all suck. And we're starting to see Lala's hanging out with somebody like Michelle and there's

like a bit of a crossover there. And obviously we already saw Shina and Lala on the first or second episode of the Valley as it was. I think that was just to draw some more attention to something that they weren't was going to work. Now they realize it's working because these people are really bringing it and there's a lot of drama. There's a lot of things going on. It's very real world stuff. And it's really captivated to watch every week. I don't want Lala and Sheena on the TV screen anymore bringing their dumb VPR shit over there. We already have Jackson, Kristen. We already have them doing

the things that they've done in the past. And it's working because the rest of the crew is kind of warming up to it. You throw two more people in there. It's going to be boring. It's going to be annoying. I don't think they're going to change at all. I think the most sense that we can make out of all of this for at least Lisa's standpoint on this whole thing, bring people from Vanderpump Villa, send them to Vegas, and then do VanderPump 2.0 there. I think that's a good idea. Like that's fun because they're new people. A lot of people aren't really watching it because it's on Hulu, whatever.

They need to be on Bravo. They need to be in a bigger scope. They need to be on somewhere that people can actually watch them. Start it over and throw it in Vegas. And look, I know that Vegas is really tough to do a lot of things in, but you can make it work. Lisa has like four fucking restaurants there. or do it in like Nevada, like somewhere else in Nevada.

I don't care what you're going to do. Lake Tahoe. Yeah, Lake Tahoe or something. That would make a lot of sense. Just don't taint a good show because if you do that, everybody is going to be annoyed. Yeah, and I think that that's a great, great call is, there's definitely a world where you can have a new setup of a Vanderpump cast

and go back to your roots. That's what a lot of Vanderpump Villa is giving for those of you that's not watching Vanderpump Villa on Hulu. Did you say it's giving? I did. Oh, wow. That was serious. That was enforced.

Yeah. I know. All right. I'm getting hip with the lingo, bro. Nice, dude. You're right back out. I know. I was trying to get back out because I never said that seriously.

That was the first time. Yes, they did. But it's giving old school VPR because you're getting a lot of similarities with Marciano and Hannah, who are very similar to like early Jacks and Stossi. It's just this overly toxic relationship and they can't seem to find their way apart from each other. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of good things happening there. And I would love if you had this setup where it's like, okay, Villa's the minor leagues.

You go to Villa for five weeks. You see if you can perform. If you do well, maybe we'll ship you over to the big leagues in Vegas. You can go to Vanderpump 2.0. Makes sense. So that, I would be interested to see if they could make that work. I think that we've just run its course as far as VPR goes. It has gotten to the point now.

It's just like, all right, I think a lot of the people on the show are ready to move on to the next phase of their life. by a lot of them, I mean Katie and Ariana. Yeah, the two of them, they really want to go there. And you can do a cute little show, do like a one-season show about their shop. Something about her, sure. It's just something to show it off a little bit because they've earned it, honestly. They've done enough in the last couple of years. Throw it out there.

That's great. I probably won't watch it, but throw it out there. And then the rest of them, I don't care because they're just old and boring now. And that's really all we have going on for us right now. I don't care about Schwartz's midlife crisis. God, we're going to keep doing that. Sandoval being a scumbag. Like, he's just going to continue to be a scumbag.

Let him go to some sea list Love Island because he's not hot enough to be on Love Island. So throw him on some, like, low-key thing. Put him on like the Golden Bachelor in like 10, 15 years when people forget about this. 10 or 15 years. Yeah, you know, he's 55 at that point. He's old as shit. These people are old and boring. I don't care about them anymore.

No, it's fair. He just can't bring it. And I think, you know, we could sit here and do this all night, but let's get into the episode. Despite the fact that we're bored with this show, we will still give you our full analysis. And breakdown, don't let this preamination. Scare you off from the episode. We take our job seriously here at the Brov Bros. So we will always give you a 150% effort.

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Bring your friends. It's going to be a blast. We're really excited. Getting ready to get back up on the stage. I got to get a haircut. Yeah. I got to find an outfit. Oh, dude, I need an outfit too.

I haven't thought about any of this. Nothing. I was in Italy. You should have bought something from Italy. Nice knit shirt and Italian knit shirt? You know what I almost bought. What? And I still.

regret it to this day. I love the jackets and Masters of the Air, like the big... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're walking by, in Monte Polchiano, we walked by this leather store, and they sold jackets, backpacks, whatever, and on a mannequin, like, in the back of the store, directly in line with the door, it was the last one they had. It was kind of like one of those jackets. Oh, yeah.

And I walked by and I was like, oh, my God. And I went and I tried it on. it wasn't enough of the like rugged like airman vibe yeah it was a little more yeah it was very nice it was a very nice jacket and i i did not to do it my own horn i do believe i pulled it off did you wear a shirt underneath of it i did okay i wouldn't always wear a shirt like you wouldn't yeah uh you know me too well but it was close i still think i should have gotten it and i'll probably think about it a lot until I find a better one. I think it could get rugged over time, no.

Totally. Yes, you're not helping me. Take it outside and beat you with a bat for a bit now. You're not helping me because that means I should have gotten the jacket. Yeah. Well, anyway, get tickets to our live show and let's get into this week's episode. We start out with Jackson James, and they are at James's house, and we know that because an airplane flies over. We've got to be reminded of that every single time, but they are hosting a brunch at

Sir that's hosted by the two of them. and I was confused about that because I know that Jacks and Lisa aren't doing great and then later when Lisa is like taken aback by this whole thing I was confused at that it's like do you not know that Jacks is coming to do this at your restaurant like that was confusing as shit

yeah so I think that she's still playing the game a little bit there but he says it a little bit later where she's talking about her relationship with Jacks and she was just going to let the whole thing go but then she started to see pictures or stuff like flyers out there with his name on it and one of her restaurants, and she's like, come on, like, seriously?

Yeah. So I think she knew the whole time, but once she saw the flyers, she didn't like the association. I'm just, like, do you not have to okay it, though? That's my whole point. Maybe not her directly. Maybe one of the managers is like, you know what had to do it. Yeah. Yeah, maybe.

Or Sneaky Pete, Peter Madrigal since he's, he's MIA, but still working at one of the establishments, I believe. I don't know. But they start talking about Katie and the fact that she's out there spreading rumors, quote unquote, according to Jacks, that Jacks is out there cheating again. But Katie's not spreading the rumor. Katie heard the rumor somewhere else because the rumors are out there because you are Jacks Taylor.

And we get a reminder of that in the Valley episode when you're talking to the Burning Man lady and flirting with her and saying, oh, get me out of here, get me out. God forbid I stand next to a woman clothed like this. I just can't control myself. Like, that's the problem, dude. You don't have to have Katie out there spreading your shit. You do it enough yourself. Yeah, but we move on from there, and we get Sheena with Brittany, and we're talking about Brock and Sheena's relationship.

And as we've seen this entire season, they are at each other's throats constantly. They can't seem to get on the same page. On one hand, you've got Sheena who's dealing with postpartum OCD, which is a very serious thing. She's trying to work her way through that. On the other side, you have Brock, who is trying to find himself again. He feels like he's lost himself entirely since moving over from Australia. he had all of these dreams, hopes, and aspirations. We have to talk about his dreams for a second.

You want to talk about his dreams? Let's talk about his dreams. He says he was on the doorstep of the NFL. I feel like we have a pretty good handle on this kind of topic. Yeah, this one really pissed me off because there's no chance in hell that he was of the doorstep of the NFL. First off, how many rugby players get drafted every year? Maybe one, maybe two. Jordan Milana.

Yeah, success stories, very few and far between. Jordan Milana, literally him. That's the only one. And maybe a couple of punters out there. He doesn't look like a punter, so I don't think it was him. And you get the rest of them, like, 1% of the D1 college football athletes actually make it to the NFL. Brock wasn't going to the fucking NFL. He did some tryout at some high school nearby.

And there was some, like, low-end scouts watching him do this. We would have known by this point, right? He's been on the screen for a couple years. He would have made sure that we knew that he was almost in the NFL at some point. It wouldn't have come out this late at his career on Bravo. And, like, in my mind, he went to, like, UC Bakersfield with, like, 15 other guys that a friend of a friend of a, a scout of a friend of a scout. Like, this guy's the next thing.

I'm like, all right, we'll go watch him. And you get like the assistant to the assistant coach go out and take some notes and be like, yeah, none of these guys are good. It was like the worst version of trouble with the curve. And it was Clintonie's daughter out there, but his daughter doesn't know anything about football. She just happened to be there. Yeah, that was it. I just, yeah, there's no way. We would have heard more about it.

And look, I'm not saying that you have to be big in the NFL, but most of the guys are very large human beings, Brock's not that big. No. So I just don't like the way that he's painting it where he's like, I had to go chase my dreams in the NFL. It's like, no, you ran away from your family. Jesus.

Well, anyway, we get into this breadwinner issue. And Sheena says, you know, Brock, I think that he has an issue with this. And Brittany can relate because Jacks feels the same way or has a similar feeling to this because Brittany brings home most of the money in their household. She's got her Weight Watchers thing or Jenny Craig thing, I believe. Yeah. She's doing very well. Like, she's a spokesperson for both of them. And if I'm getting that wrong, I apologize. I know she, I know it's Weight Watchers. I thought it was Weight Watchers. I don't think it's Jenny Craig. Not Jenny Craig? All right, let me rescind that. She's working

with Weight Watchers and doing well. She's bringing in the money for the house. So she's supporting Jacks. So she's a good person to talk to about this. I do like how Brock handled it later. I will give him some credit here because when the conversation comes up later between him and sheena the approach that he took was not like i'm emasculated because you make money because that's not his or sorry that's not sheena's fault that she's doing well right she shouldn't have to feel a certain way because she's bringing home the bacon right it is what it is she worked her ass off she's been on reality tv for a long time made a presence for herself she has the podcast she's doing things whether you like her or not

she's monetized herself very well she shouldn't have to feel a certain way because her husband is insecure that he doesn't make enough money right so i'm glad that brock said the way he did, he said, I just want to be able to relieve some pressure from you that you don't feel that you have to support us both, that I can help us along this road. It's not, I want to be the breadwinner. I can't be banged down to my wife. That would have been a lot worse. Really, Australian accent got, like, so much more aggressive when he was with his boy. Oh, yeah. Well, hold on, because his boy was Australian, the only thing I'll say is, like, when I go to Texas, if I'm there for, like, longer than a year. I understand that. I get my twang back a little bit. I get

that it was just so much it was just really funny because it's one of those things where you know i'm doing a couple of things obviously i'm watching but it's like in between scenes and then it flashes over and i hear somebody talking obviously it's brock and i look up and it's just such a strong italian accent or italian australian accent you've got me thinking about that jacket from italy now ah it's a beautiful jacket it is god it was i should have gotten it dev i should have gotten the jacket she's not here but she listens to the episode dev i should have gotten the jacket and we went to dinner that last night by the way and it closed at like eight and we were sitting at dinner

I was like seven when we got there for the reservation and I was like she's like just go running down and get it and I was like I don't want to leave you like sitting by yourself in like a restaurant in Italy so I can go buy a jacket and I almost did it and I was like no I won't do it and now I should have done it should have done it but whatever left her wife alone but you know Brock would have Brock definitely would have but one thing we get from this scene that I felt bad for Sina she's like you know I have all these thoughts now in my head

these insecurities because of Sandoval, now I'm thinking about Lala and Brock, like, could Brock do that to me? Could Lala do that to me? I'm insecure about bringing a nanny into the house because I don't trust anyone. And that's the ramifications that will never sink in with Sandoval, which is so fucking frustrating and why he's just an unredeemable piece of shit. He will never understand how far this goes. Like you have affected people's lives beyond just the fact that you cheated. You have fucked with people's mental well-being, because they can't trust their partners because of you. Because you were able to do something so drastically not okay,

everyone else is feeling the fallout from it in their own personal lives that have nothing to do with you. So fuck you, dude. Yeah, we saw a little bit of that last year, too, when it first happened, where Sheena was even getting to the point where she started thinking about Brock with Rachel because Rachel was so close to them and she was always at their house, even when she wasn't there and it was just the two of them. So obviously, her mind's going to start racing.

It's just crazy to see that now, like, six, seven months later, this point she's now evolved into this other thing where anybody could be capable of doing this because tom did it yeah and it sucks and obviously we can sit it back and say well tom's a complete scumb bag he's the dirt of the earth not in a good way yeah what is that what's that phrase that i'm thinking of the earth is a good one dirt of the earth is a bad scum of the earth is probably way better salt of the earth is a like an endearing good thing right means you're like a rugged just salt of the earth kind of guy yeah pick yourself up by that kind of guy wears a leather job jacket, but I'm going to keep bringing

it off. You're going to keep making me sad. I know. Maybe you can order it online. I don't think so. I don't know what the name of the shop is. I don't mention those fees. I told the woman I'd be back to buy it too, and now I feel bad. You didn't say when? That's a good point in 10 years ago. I'm back. Look at me. Anyway,

but yeah, it's just tough to watch that it's evolved into all of this. And look, I'm not Sheen's biggest fan, but any time that she actually shares what she's going through with her emotions or with her postpartum stuff, it is pretty crazy to watch and I'm sure it resonates with a lot of people. Yeah, no, we've always

give kudos to anybody willing to speak on the real issues. So this next scene, I take it back. The only captivating scenes this episode were not only with Jacks because I like this scene a lot and it's with Katie and Schwartz. Yeah. They're still in love.

Well, Schwartz is getting a tattoo and Katie makes a joke, oh, I saw like the hard launch with Joe and he's like, it's not a hard launch. But he does that and say like, I'm actually going to take a break with hanging out with her because like the optics and then she asked me are you embarrassed of me which broke my heart for her I thought it was really funny though in a sad way and by the way Joe is not cool and like I don't have any sympathy for anymore after a fucking live session that she did that was nuts she's like

of course I blew Schwartz yeah maybe Katie could have kept him if she did that more off like fuck off yeah she lost all credibility in my book so I actually we were told that she wasn't allowed to have credibility to begin with yeah got a lot of shit for the fact that we felt bad I felt back she was getting bullied anymore, and now I'm like, oh, fuck. I bully the shit out of her. Yeah, that was ridiculous. But I thought it was funny, and again, in a sad way, that Schwartz's response to, are you embarrassed of me is I'm not going to hang out with her anymore.

So you're really going to hammer home. No, I'm not embarrassed of you, but we should stop hanging out for a while. But my point is, and no, Katie should not get back with Schwartz. Katie's better than Schwartz. She deserves better than Schwartz. But my God, the chemistry is palpable. Yeah. They are.

They've got such a good point now, too, where, like, they can go out and have food. Like, in the beginning of the season, Schwartz just, he just wore her down. I think that's what happened. He just kept showing up. He dyes his hair blonde. He does a bunch of goofy shit. He's not, like, really rubbing people the wrong way. He's just, you know, hanging out with Tom, which is what he's going to do.

People are feeling bad for Schwartz because he's getting put in another position where Tom is trying to force him to live with him. And here we are, again, Katie's falling back in love with Schwartz. No, I don't. I think she's... Come on. Look, Katie's too smart to ever go down that path again. She is, but he wears her down. You can't deny the chemistry in this scene.

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This is where we hear about Tori. And we haven't heard, we obviously got inklings of this in the season, like during the season, and we've heard hints of it. But they're both talking to the same girl. And they even to the, like, this is how not close they've gotten, but on a better place they've gotten, they're like, oh, let's both text her and see who she responds to first. By the way, did you get a kiss? Well, I got a peck of the cheek. I got tongue.

The last thing I would take from this interaction, or them to chasing the same girl, the last thing I would take from this is what shorts took from it. Katie pursuing the same girl is Katie's way of wanting to be friends. I don't think that's it. The way his mind works sometimes is... I don't think that's it at all. No, it's definitely not it. It's definitely not it, no. What a crazy sentiment.

You're trying to hook up with the girl I'm trying to hook up with because you miss me. I just love the idea of the flow chart where, you know, obviously they break up. Then we have the beginning of this season where Katie wants nothing to do with Schwartz because of the Ariana of it all. Schwartz has somehow worn down both of them to the point where Ariana is even laughing at him and sitting down with him one-on-one and giggling and whatever. And now Katie's going out to lunch with him and talking about the girl that they're both hooking up with. Katie banged Max.

Oh, yeah. And here we are now with them going after the same girl and having a fun time at it. I think that... None of it makes sense, but I love it. I think that Katie hooking up with Max... That was the catalyst. That was exactly what they needed. That was the best thing she could have done for their relationship.

She probably feels a little vindicated like, I finally got you back. Yeah, yeah, and he deserved it. Yep. Like, I've said from day once, and she said that she hooked up with him, like, good, you should. Fuck, fuck Schwartz. Do you think that Schwartz was actually really pissed about that, or do you think he kind of smile to himself thinking like, all right, now she has nothing to go back on. Because now I can go back on her with that.

The latter, definitely. To him, that was kind of like a moment of peace where he's like, ah, now we're even, but you're not at all. I'm not close. But that's how Schwartz's brain works. But we move on from there and we get Brock and Sheena and they actually go out for their anniversary, which is nice as we heard earlier. That was, I don't think we talked about that yet, but that was an issue because they had

original plans, those plans fell through and they were supposed to be with a lot of people. And then Brock's like, well, let's just go to dinner together. And Sheena didn't want to. She wanted to hang out with a bunch of people. I actually agree with Brock there where it's like, no, go have a nice dinner with your husband. But regardless, they do end up doing that and they're sitting down. They're just talking it out with one another. And

we've heard this conversation in a lot of shows I realized as they're sitting there talking about the communication and things like that. Summerhouse, this, the valley. We have a lot of relationships where they're having difficulty communicating, and it's also around kids now that I think about it, because Jesse and Michelle was after the kids. So they're sitting there trying to get on the same page with each

other, and this is where the breadwinner conversation comes up between the two of them. And what he says exactly is, I want to alleviate some more stress and do some more work around the house. Sheena makes a very good point. Do you not think that what you do for me and our child by being home and being present, all of those, does that not carry any weight? Because that is a big deal. And the fact that he is there, I do understand wanting to have your own thing

and having a purpose and a career and all that. That's the same thing that Sheena wants, the same thing that a lot of people want. You want to be able to pursue something that is yours. So I get that part of it. What I thought was a little strong, really strong, and not in a good way, this is your second chance at being a dad.

Yeah, that was tough. That's a little rough. Whoa. Sheena, too, is insane. Whoa. Yeah. Like, look, we don't condone what happened with Brock and his first two kids. And I've asked, since he's been on the show, why do we not get any answers about this?

Even this, I was like, okay, are we going to talk about it finally? Do you know what Brock's daughter's name us? Like, moon, winter. Winter sky. Winter sky. Sheena was induced on the same day that Winter Sky's birthday is and named her daughter summer moon how fucking off is that so like every time that we're like all right yeah sheena like we get it we understand what's going on and everything like no you're just as bad oh my god yeah that

just clicked yeah and that's the dev was trying to say that to me earlier i was like yeah cool there's a lot of people now that are because we haven't gotten any answers when it comes to brock and what happened and we're just people are just getting tired of it because he's on the screen so much like in the past yeah he pops up once every couple of episodes but he's been in almost every single episode. He's been a mainstay. He's a mainstay, and there's a lot of storylines with him and Sheena going on, and he's been involved in all the Tom stuff. So the more that he's on screen, the more people want answers. I still want answers. Even his explanation of, you know, I'll look back. I should have been there bit. I should have been a better father.

Like all that stuff. Like, yeah, dude, but that's obvious. No shit. You should have done things differently. No shit you should have been better. Look back at your 19 year old self and say that you're going to be a good dad, all that stuff. Yeah, hindsight's a motherfucker. Yeah, you should of you didn't so let's talk about why so that you can at least like i always get this weird feeling like when i'm like oh brock's been pretty good i'm like oh but you left your fucking kids so i don't really care chase your NFL dream because you're almost there you're quote unquote NFL you were almost the first rounder it's just so weird to me but he he claims to be working on his relationship with his other kids i really hope he is like not even for his sake for

kids' sake. And he says, you know, I'm respecting their mother's wishes to not be involved until they want me involved. If that's true as well, okay, good, at least you're respecting boundaries. But this is such a major sticking point that it's like, I will not be comfortable with it until I understand it better. And they always kind of give the runaround. It's never an exact answer. And now you're renaming your kids to somewhat mimic your original. Which is fucking nuts. It's fucking insane. Like, when I first heard that, when I first thought about it,

wouldn't that be a constant reminder of the daughter that you left behind? You would think? Like, change that, like, why would you even come close to that, let alone an exact replica of that name? The only thing that could be worse. She is on board with it. It would be summer sun instead of winter moon. Wait, no.

It would have been winter, it would have been winter sun versus summer moon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that would have been worse. Here's what I want to know. Did Brock come up with that name? And Sheena was like, wow, that's beautiful.

I love that. And then he just didn't tell her. Did Sheena know? The whole thing's fucked. The whole thing is very fucked up. It's more fucked up. It's just all fucked up. If Sheena was in on it and it was like, yeah, let's do that name.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't like it. I didn't know that. Maybe Deb tried to tell you earlier. She did. She said, you know, his other kid's name is summer or winter, what the fuck? Winter sky.

Winter sky. And I was like, oh, okay, because I didn't think about Summer Moon. Yeah. Because I'm an idiot. Sorry, Dev. You don't even follow Summer Moon on Instagram, so. I definitely don't. But my bad, Dev, I see what you're trying to do.

And I, that was lost on me. But moving on from there, we get Schwartz and Sandoval because, of course, we need more Schwartz and Sandy on our screens. The way that Sandoval gets into the car, you're not in Miami, Vice. You're 45 going through a midlife crisis with your friends. that's going through a midlife place. I'm surprised he didn't try to slide across the hood and, you know, and scratch the hood. Yeah, yeah.

I wish he'd done that and fallen off the edge of it. I wish the door opened as he hopped over the side of it and he fell down. Yep. Like, what did that, just get in the fucking car, man? Did it Schwartz get that car recently, like, to match his hair? Do you know what I think? What? I think he rented that car for that.

I bet you did too. I think that that's a rental. I don't think that, because you know why? There's so many, like, even Ariana later makes that Barbie reference with Mojo Dojo Casa. I love that reference. Which is a good reference, but there's a lot of Barbie references. And I think that car is also, it looks like a Ken car. It looked like a Barbie car.

It did look like a Ken car. I don't know. But Schwartz is going to get tattooed, and they're all taking a trip out to San Francisco because Kyle Chan is launching a whiskey. I feel like everyone's launching alcohol these days. Yep. They can't be successful. Or non-alcoholic beverages.

Yep. Cool. I thought you just got an ick. It's like, what happened? No, no, but my new favorite person to follow is the ick list. Have you seen that on TikTok? Oh, yeah. The dude just keeps adding to them.

It's like, 800 of them. It's like, don't wear shoes. Yeah. Don't walk. Don't, like, they're so fucking. Girls do really have lists on their phone, things that they don't like and full itlis. There's a lot of it. They share with each other, I know.

Yeah, it's tough. Tough to avoid being in it. You're out here for the guys. Yeah, man. The plight of men, once again. We have it the hardest. Oh, don't even. Don't even open that fucking door.

People are going to. think you're serious and we're going to get hate comments but hate hate hate hate oh man chappelle's show but they get to the tattoo parlor and schwartz is getting his dogs on his back at least this is the first tattoo that like makes sense instead of getting other people's names tattooed on your ass but sandoval brings up the house thing again and i knew this was happening i fucking knew it because the way that's, sorry, the way that Schwartz constantly responds to Sandville's like, no, dude, this is a bad idea. Like, I'm not going to do this.

We get a cut scene later where he's talking to somebody, not when he's talking to Ariana. He's talking to somebody else. He's talking to Jacks. Was it Jacks? He's seemed like he's kind of into it. He's not anti this idea. Tom has worn, it's so funny because we see Schwartz wear down Katie to the point where now

Katie's like, all right, fine, whatever. He wore down Ariana. Tom Sandoval is wearing down shorts with this whole thing. And it's so easy to do. And we see it year in and year out. Whenever Schwartz isn't really on board with something, Sandoval just keeps going and going and going. And he's having fucking meetings with his weird assistant that he has now

with a real estate agent to talk about places that have two units on a property. Yeah. So that the two of them can live together. Like he's already moving forward with this plan. That's the saddest reality show up. It is. Schwartz and Sandys, but it's them living in a duplex side by side.

God, wouldn't that work would that be on? That would be on true TV. Yep. Because one of them's going to get murdered. Yep. Sannewell's going to murder Schwartz. Yep. That's how this ends.

That's the only way to end, Tom, but it's the only way to end. The only way out of Schwartz is in a box. But the next scene we get Allie and James, and they're getting a facial because they're going to a wedding. And this is the biggest drama that we have this episode. This is what we're at now. We're at the fact that James doesn't want to leave his dog. dog that's crazy that's what we've gotten to we're talking about the fact that he can't leave hippie there and even alley who has made sacrifices to bring this dog that she doesn't know into the house

the cats were the primary resident holders there as far as pets go so to bring the dog in does cause a little bit of an upheaval and as we see they're sleeping in separate beds so they can sleep with the animals that whole thing why don't your animals just go sleep somewhere that's an animal room i don't know i don't know i don't know No. I'd have no idea. I don't have answers to this. But, Atley makes a great point. You've got to give him a chance.

Is cats sleep with you? I don't know. I've never owned one. Yeah. I will never own one. I don't know about a cat. I don't know. But, like, Louis sleeps with us for a little bit, and then he gets down because he gets hot.

And then he gets active at night, this fucking guy. He'll walk around the house and he just clipclops. And he's not small. He weighs, like, 90 fucking pounds. He's a horse. Yeah, he is a horse. He's clomping around my house at, like, three o'clock in the morning. Then he drinks for, like, 30 minutes.

Yeah. He has water all day, all right? Before you think that, oh, he's only getting water. No, he has water throughout the day. Just at night, he's sitting there just like for like 30 fucking minutes. So I don't know what's going on with their dog. I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore. Even though what's going on with your dog?

I don't know what's going on with Lou. But the whole point is, and like I guess the biggest issue is that James's brother is out of town. He only trusts his brother with this dog. Which is insane. Like, we know that hippie has what, like a checkered past with biting potentially, but it's probably just nipping when he's. playing or something like that and he just never learned as a puppy so he continued to do it it's okay well i was going to save it know where you got it from go to vanderpump dogs go to vanderpump dogs

they'll they'll set somebody's got it but my whole thing with it is do i see where james is coming from slightly not as far as like i'm not going to this wedding for your best friend and i didn't realize she's in the wedding party's like yes you have to go to that wedding it's in ohio it's a terrible look if you don't go to that wedding do i understand a little bit like you're apprehensive to leave him because of what's gone home with your dog and because Rachel dumped him at a fucking shelter and he has a checkered past probably as a result of that.

Totally. But for him to not be able to find the middle ground here and be like, all right, Alie, you've made sacrifices to bring hippie into our lives. Let me quote unquote make a sacrifice to go away with you for a wedding for four days. Like that's not asking that much, I don't think. But we get to Ariana and Dan. We're starting to see Dan more.

I'm assuming we're going to see him in next week's episode in San Francisco. He's going down there. Craig is the name of the assistant. Craig comes in in his overalls. Craig's a hot commodity on socials right now. People like Craig. How about that? Yeah, they say he's a good-looking dude.

So people are into Craig. Let's be the mustache. People like guys of mustachees. Let's look at my mustachio gentleman friend over here. Sure do. Hey, pal. But Ariana's upstairs in the gym on the treadmill because Sandoval wanted the first floor to meet with his realtor. which I thought

I thought meeting downstairs no he's Skype out back Skyping with his real estate agent he could have done that anywhere you don't need to have the first floor for that nonsense you're in your bedroom this is where we find out about the two units on one property and all I could think about was this sad fucking reality

TV show and in my head for whatever reason this property looks like a bayou in Louisiana and there's two like shacks on either side no shame to the bayou love the bayou been down there multiple times in Louisiana, but that's what I'm picturing. And then these two sad ex-reality TV stars that have nothing going on anymore, Schwartz still has blonde hair for some reason. Sandoval is still wearing stupid clothing, but he's in the middle of nowhere.

And they go and they meet halfway in between their stupid houses, and they sit on rocking chairs and talk about the good old days. Yep. And that's their future. That is pretty much what's going to happen. That's what's going to happen. But we get to Sir or is it Sir Pump Pump, Sir? Where are they?

Sir Pump sounds sick. Sir Pump. They're at Sir Pump's, and it's at Girls' Lunch, Schwartz and Sandy show up, and LVPs there with Guillermo. This is when we're about to get Jacks on screen again. And LVP's talking to Guillermo, who is the manager at Pump or Sir Pump. Sir Pump? Sir Pump.

Then she asked him, why is Jacks hosting a brunch here? He's been extremely disrespectful to me. Why would he disparage me across the board and then want to have an event at my space? two things. One, I still don't get how you don't know this is happening. One, you already know about it. Two, you know exactly why.

Because it's going to push the needle. It's going to sell tickets. They said the place is packed. They do not have seats. I think at the end of the day, she just wanted her opportunity to have like some sort of get back at him face to face. As she should.

And that's fine. Totally. It was a pretty good scene. It was a great scene. There weren't too many good scenes of this one, and that was a good one. It was Jackson LVP, and we're getting to that right now.

And she flat says, I don't want you. you here and i love that he's trying to play like the oh lisa like come on blah blah and she's like reciting things you said she's a fraud she's superfluous and he goes i don't even know what that means superfluous what superfluous there's no way that he said that there's definitely a world in which he said that but i do believe what he said i don't know what that word means i don't think you do that's a good point the funniest part is after reading the definition out loud you used it correctly yep i don't think you know what it meant but she recites it all back to

him and his fucking approach is you haven't checked on me or my wife in three years look you fucking hypocrite you can't be a piece of shit and then go out on the airwaves and be a piece of shit go in interviews and be a piece of shit talk shit about the woman that gave you

everything jacks let's not forget why you're here you are where you are today because of Lisa Vanderpump do not bite the hand that feeds you he should have walked in there on his hands and knees and said Lisa I'm so sorry I shouldn't have said a fucking word.

Well, the funny thing is he talked to James about it, and he even joked and said, what he wanted me to do? Show it with flowers. And James is like, yeah, honestly. Probably a good idea. Probably a good idea. You should grovel a little bit. Probably a good start.

Yeah. And he seemed to actually consider it. But when he walks into the room, he did not consider it at all. No. He just wanted to walk in, hey, everybody, how's it going? I'm back. Yeah, we're normal, right? Everything's cool.

I do love the Bravo, at least threw in the ex-sir-employee. I'm like, that's the best way to do it. It's not like Star of the Valley or anything like that. No. or employee. Yeah. But at the end of the conversation, you know, it is what it is. You can't shake the roots of where they both came from.

He's an OG Vanderpumper. So even Lisa, he's like, look, Lisa, no matter what I love you. And she's like, ah, you're so annoying. I don't like you, but I love you too. And I think that's kind of how these relationships will always go. There's always going to be a soft spot in their heart for Jacks. I don't know why. He's a big piece of shit.

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And to her credit, and I have not been her biggest fan in the past, as I've said, but to her credit across the majority of seasons on this show, and she's had her ups and downs, especially with Tequila Katie, and what I can say about Katie, she has been the most consistent. She has been the most herself. I love that she stands by her convictions. she will not be pushed or bullied into getting along with anybody that she doesn't want to. If she doesn't like you, she's not going to fuck with you.

And she has not changed that stance. And I love that. I think it's awesome. And she points out when Jacks walks over, anybody that has to reiterate time and time again how much they've changed, they haven't changed at all. And the perfect example of that is Exhibit A, Jacks Taylor, Exhibit B, Tom Sandoval. You couldn't have said it any better. but Jacks tells Ariana about Schwartz moving into the house. He said, I don't know if you heard, because Jacks loves the gossip.

I love Ariana's reaction. She doesn't care. She's like, I don't fucking care. Give me my money. I'll get the fuck out of there. Those two idiots want to live together for the rest of their life, fine. That doesn't bother me. Just give me my money.

Fuck yeah. That's all you need. It's not worth getting an upheaval about because also that sounds like the best retribution ever. These two guys are going to try to live together. as 40-year-olds. In the house that you picked out that you want nothing to do with. And that's the thing

that we've learned over the last couple of weeks, which people had wrong to begin with, Ariana doesn't care about the house. She just wants the stuff that she picked out, the good stuff that'll work

in a new house, and she wants to get the fuck out of there. She's trying to actively get the fuck out of there. So that's actually really funny. That's got to be the best revenge. And you didn't even have to lift a finger to do it. You get paid out by Tom,

who's now taking a loan out and get you out and refinancing. And you get to just walk away from all of that with a fat stack while the two tombs have to go live in that house or find another property in crippling debt awful sounds terrible by the way they're going to lose the house they're not going to be able to afford that no especially with a refi and a loan on top of like no shot especially of schwartz he said he can't even afford a six thousand dollar a month rent yeah but now the rent

is by the way he said it was six grand to move in with him it has now gone up to 22,000 a month that means you've got to pay $11,000 for this mortgage because you got a refi. So, like, if I'm Ariano, I'm like, do it. Yeah, fucking do it. You have a good time. You guys are going to be bankrupt in a year. He's like, go for it. Like, that's the best payback.

I mean, Barr's doing really well, right? So they can just siphon some cash out of that. No, it's not doing well at all. And they had to combine Tom, Tom, Tom, with Sir. So, wait, is it Tom, Tom, and Pump? Or is it just Pump and Sir combined. All right, my bad. But they're doing, no, because Tom was up, oh, man, I don't know.

they're going to go bankrupt in the house. Yeah, it doesn't matter. And this is where Ariana drops the Mojo Dojo-Casa house line, which was on point for those two idiots. But we get Tom with James talking and James is like, you know, I don't want to wake up and be mad at you. I want to be able to move past this. And not even in a way where it's like,

I want to be able to be friends with you again. He's like, I don't want you to take up real estate in my head anymore. Tom with some weird self-righteous tone is like, that's good. you finally realize that uh it's so fucking frustrating but i'm glad that james is starting to come around to the idea like this man's not going to be your friend he's not going to give you what you want from him he's like you should you should so you don't look back and say wow i'm a fool i'm such an idiot but you can't you have no presence of mind to take the same approach and be like let me look at this overall do i

still want to be this fucking guy in five years because you're on the path to be the same piece of shit that burned the world down a year ago and even james kennedy dj james kennedy who's not an upstanding, upstanding, upstanding citizen is telling you this, upstanding citizen tells you the same shit. If I'm Sandoval and James is checking me, that's enough for me. He has no self-awareness, so it doesn't really matter. But we get back to James and Allie's house for like the after party or whatever. And this is where we get like the hippie update.

And Allie's really upset because James doesn't go to the wedding and Harry or the brother isn't home to watch him. And this is where James interjects. He's like, well, I want to stay home with him. I will say this to the people comparing it to their pet situations. It is different because of what happened to hippie. He got dumped at a shelter. He was there for a while.

Like, it was not a pretty journey to get back to James. So I do understand that part of it. It is different than their scenarios. Sure. However, there are alternatives to somebody that can watch your dog. Ask Lisa. Ask Lisa if she knows somebody. She's probably got a great list of dog sitter.

is because she owns Vamber Dumpthogs. The Vamber Dump Dogs. Holy shit. Vamber Dump dogs. So she probably can help you out there. The fact that he's holding on to this so wholeheartedly and other people are pointing out to him, Allie's made sacrifices for you.

This would be a good time to show up for her. Yeah. And he's incapable of seeing past it. This is, Jane, one of his biggest flaws consistently. He needs to have it his way. And he gets so stuck on it that then he gets emotionally, he gets louder and he starts, like, acting. He got a little louder, but then he started crying.

He started crying because this hits close to home, I guess, but at the same time, dude, it's like fucking save it. Like, you shouldn't be putting Allie in this situation where now she's like, you can't come to my friend's fucking wedding. I'm in the fucking wedding, dude, it's a dog. He'll be here when we get back. The whole thing about like, I'm never leaving him again. I'm never going to be without him again.

I'm sorry, dude, but you did leave him. You left him with Rachel. You agreed to move on from all of that and leave the dog with Rachel. And where'd that get you? hippie went all the way around and did all this you weren't inquiring about the dog afterwards Lisa found the dog and brought him back to you correct so yeah you can do all that it was written in the stars that he was going to come back to me bullshit if you want to but at the end of the day you

left the dog originally so you don't get to sit here now and say I'm never leaving this dog again he means the world to me and I've got these abandonment issues no it's not how that works also bro give the dog to somebody who's going to watch them there are 50 people and he makes a point to say, oh, you guys talk about, like, if fur baby is a real thing, you guys all have kids, you wouldn't even do that. I've been hearing about your nanny situation the whole time. Not the same. Not the same. That actually points out what's wrong with fur babies. Yeah. People that talk about it like that. So, no, definitely not the same. And also, if you were nice to these people, a lot of them have owned dogs. They'll probably watch hippie for

a weekend. Correct. So grow up and shut the fuck up. Well said. I got nothing to add. And again, if Jacks wasn't in this episode and we didn't get a little spark between Katie, And Tom, this episode would have sucked, and this would have been the main point of it. Exactly. I know. This would be the main drama is the fact that he doesn't want to leave his dog. But we get James and Schwartz and Katie talk, and this is where the cheating rumors come up. And this is where Jacks blames Katie.

And Katie's like, there's the internet, you dumbass. Like, this isn't me pushing this narrative. I said it once on TV. Yeah. But there are plenty of articles and things like that talking about this, have been talking about it. By the way, fast forward to now, you don't live with your wife anymore. You don't live with your wife anymore. things going on, and you're off gallivanting

with your assistant. Yeah. So this is just like an A1 case of Jacks didn't know what to say when it originally came up when they were at Pumps, sir, and he got to drive to James's or Uber to Jameses or whatever, and he thought about what he was going to say to Katie. He was trying to make

her feel bad. What angle does he choose but saying, you don't even talk to Brittany anymore? I'm sorry, dude, but you're her wife. Katie fucking hates you. Yeah. So no, you're her husband. her wife, whatever. Katie fucking hates you. So yeah, she's not going to talk to Brittany because you're always there. Yeah, she hates. That's how that works. If anything, you can point it yourself

and say, Katie's not a good friend to my wife anymore because I'm a piece of shit. Yeah, you're the problem. Yeah. You have always been the problem. And luckily, Katie doesn't get bogged down by any of that. She just makes a face. She's like, no, of course I'm not going to be friends with Brittany. She's your wife. Yeah. She's associated with you and I hate you. She hates you so much that she will not look past it to be friends with your wife. That's how much of a shitty person you are. And again, that's why Katie's awesome is because she doesn't buckle. She's not like, oh, you're right. I'll go talk to Freddie. She's like, no, you're a dick. I'm not talking to her because I have to associate it with you. But this is where we get the scene with Ariana and Schwartz. And I thought

this was so just a good scene because they're able to sit down and talk. And he's like, I heard Jacks told you about the house. And, you know, I'm not doing it, but like, would you hate me if I did? And again, she's like, no. I I think that she's so far past this now. She's like, dude, I don't care. I just want my money. And you guys can do whatever the hell you want to do. Like, it's not my problem.

If you guys want to go into debt and bankrupt each other, by all means, carry on, sirs. But the last thing we need to talk about is we get Brock yelling at his wife again, of course, because Sheena wants to go home. I fully agree with Sheena here, all right? Like, if she's done, she went out. Like, this is where the compromise for me needs to come in because she went out. You guys got to go out. Let's go to the after party.

At James is, you have a child at home. If she wants to get back to the kid, let her get back to the kid. If you are, maybe say, hey, I might stay. Is that cool? You go read this summer and I'm going to stay and hang out. All right. Or, hey, I don't know. There's just no, in no world, has he built up enough grace and respect to be able to say something like that now.

Just because he's been yelling out of the whole time. He's been a dick about the whole nanny situation. He's ignoring all of Sheena's feelings when it comes to all of this. and now he's going to, once again, yell at her from the pool while she's walking up that way, so that everybody can hear it. That was so embarrassing,

it's just fucking embarrassing, and I hate when he does it because it's just so belittling to your wife to be able to do that in front of other people. If you have a problem with it, you know what, bitch about it on the ride home. The two of you can talk in a car,

and you can complain about it all you want, but don't do it in front of other people because it's just fucking terrible. She was, like, away from him. She yelled wearing a fucking mankini and on a floaty, yells across the party and says that's why we have a nanny like dude fucking shut up get up and walk over there if you want to talk to her don't yell at your wife across the party and you get bailed out because the next thing that happens is Kyle Chan and Sheena and Sandoval are talking about apples her quote unquote disc track that she made about Rachel and Sandoval and here we go victim Tom again you know honestly it's been a lot like it's been a lot she know all you had to do is like keep your mouth shut you said to keep your mouth shut you don't get to tell and anybody, what they could have, should have, or would have done over the past year.

Because you did all of this. And, like, I'm not doing this again. I'm not going down this path where we vent and rant and rave about what Sandoval's done. Because we all know. It's just, this is why the show is getting fucking boring. I don't need to see him try to Vindmikate himself anymore. Vindam Kate. Vindam Kate.

I'm struggling, bro. I'm fucking struggling. But. Vindam Kate. That's a good one. Maybe that's the word we get into the dictionary, Vindem Kate. But Brock steps in out of nowhere. And he says, well, you've been making songs on tour and this and that.

And it's like, yeah, dude, you've been. Good point. It is. You've been using Rachel and Schwartz. I hate it when Brock makes a good point. I know, right? But he always does in these situations. We've been talking about it the entire season, too.

We're like, what is anybody going to call him out for doing that on tour? Yeah. It's fucking Brock after he yells at his wife. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, oh, nice, but not you. Someone else say this. Yeah, someone else. Just whisper it to somebody else and let them tell it.

Right. You've been talking shit on your entire stupid bullshit karaoke band tour. So you don't get to say, like, your song hurt my feelings. Like, fucking grow up once again. But his big argument is like, you guys involved yourselves. You involved yourselves. You involved everybody, dude. And Chino was one of your best friends, according to her.

You denied it later and then went back this season. And your confession was like, me and Sheena were so close. You got everybody involved. and the worst possible thing you could probably do here is to remind Sheena that she was the other woman at some point in her life when she was like a 22-year-old. I love it, Lala. Pretty much kept her mouth shut the whole time,

but she heard that. She's like, whoa. Yeah, whoa. But I think that Ariana's face was the best because she's like, oh, shit. I couldn't believe you fucking said that. And then Brock comes over and grabs him by the neck and kind of pushes him away.

I wish Brock fucking leveled him. I wish he fucking teed off on him right there. I don't because Sanneval would sue the pants off of him and then would win that, which sucks. And Brock already had to sell his gyms, so what's he going to pay with? Yeah, you know what I mean? Now, Sheena has to take the brunt of it. But, dude, Sheena goes off.

She turns around and starts screaming his face. It's like, fuck you. Like, I have fucked up thoughts about Lala because of you, all these different things. I love that scream out, though. Yeah, well, once again, like Lala, Ariana and Katie sitting all the way over here. Like, there's a lot of male voices going on over there. What the hell's happening now? And then Lala gets to hear, I had thoughts about Lala cheating with my husband.

And you're like, whoa. Mom, it's like, wait a minute. But that's like, every time that any progress is made, Sandoval will always shoot himself in the foot, backtrack, backpedal, because he's not a good person. That's why this show's getting stale. It's like, yeah, we know. Like, we know all this happens.

I can't believe he said something like that. That's fucking insane that he would try to compare those two situations. It's not the same thing. It is a good reminder that all of these people are fucked up. Everyone's fucked each other over. But we're at the point now where it's like, all right, what is going to shift to make this more entertaining to watch? Because at this point, we are rerunning the same shit over and over again

to the point that what took center stage was the fact that James didn't want to leave his dog. That's not good TV. Nope, that's shit TV. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm not into it. I don't know how they get back on the right track. Maybe you just accept.

that this is it and move on from this show, but we'll see how they wrap the season up. How many episodes do you think we have left? Five, four? Four or five probably? Yeah, well, time will tell. Let's get in some questions. Yeah, we've got a few questions here,

and I'm going to start off with... Diana Jerry said, do you think Jackson's apology to LVP was genuine? No. No. No, yeah, just no. I don't think anything he does is genuine. I think he, I think in the moment, I do believe that Jacks thinks he's genuine.

And the minute he walks away from any scenario, it doesn't matter. It's Nolan void. Zach Mellon is kind of, well, maybe not the right word. But Zach Mellon asks, is Brock amazing or horrible? And why is the answer both? Well said. Well, amazing, probably not. But he's definitely horrible.

Well, no. Here, let me break it down. He's amazing in the fact. that like he has those moments of clarity where he says some shit and you're like wow that's a great point and then he goes and yells at his wife in public which is horrible I mean you shouldn't yell at your wife period but the fact

that you're doing it in front of other people so she's even more embarrassed is deplorable so I think maybe that's why it could be you get moments of clarity where it's like wow great point Brock and then you're like oh fuck you Brock yeah no agreed it's sin said will the bros also watch the after show and comment

on that for VPR I've actually heard this before too where the after show they do share a lot and we talk about confessionals a lot where we're like i don't really know you know how far down the line we are i know they do that in stages so what's going on the after show is fully after the season yeah it's a straight hindsight that's a dangerous game to play because we're trying to comment from where they are where they are in the season because if we went from the scope of where they are now like we know because yeah has turned on everybody so if we commented it from like that approach it wouldn't make a lot of sense because we still do bring a lot of it in like when

we see clips from it but apparently you can pretty much tell that like ariana is completely checked out katy's completely checked out so it looks like they're not even going to come back so it is kind of tough and i know that there's some good nuggets of information there so we'll keep an eye on it but we're not going to really bring in like a full breakdown of what we do tend to get the nuggets like we hear those we see those clips so but if you guys see something you think we should talk about just send it to us we will see it hopefully or tag us in a story or something. And we'll do one more here from Emma Francis 07.

Why the hell did Lisa let Jacks stay boy buy? Money. Money. Has to be. That place was packed because he was there. Exactly. That's all. You heard it when he walked over to James' DJ set.

Yeah. DJ Jacks Taylor is up here. Like people are actually screaming and going over to himself. Look, LVP at the root of everything is a businesswoman and a very good one at that. Yep. She makes that cash money, babe. where she has a Villarosa. That's why she has a chateau blibble-blis.

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