Bros & Shows - Jax's Last Finale, Zack's Last Straw(Part 2 of 2)(The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

What's up Bros? We had to break this episode into 2 parts to make sure that we covered it all. In this episode, Jax has Danny in his crosshairs. The projection and deflection is almost comical. Brittany is finally completely done with Jax. Zack and Benji are settling in in their new life together in LA. Danny and Nia are fed up with Janet. Doute gets some troubling news about her fertility journey but DONT WORRY IT ALL WORKS OUT! Michelle and Jesse seem to reach an amicable place for now. All hell breaks loose at the zen party when Jax escalates, Janet and Jason run and Zack finally snaps. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bros and Shows. Brows and Shows. Brows and Shows. I got to have me. Now, those and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the conclusion of our Valley Finale Recap. I'm your co-host.

Steele Russell, joined, as always, by the one and only two-part Magoutes. What's up, dude? Valley finale just rolls off the tongue. Doesn't it? There's no reason to dilly-dell. Let's just get ourselves in there. Get into this. Let's get to Benji and Zach for a lovely little dinner at Norma.

you know, cheers to life in L.A., and I thought, I thought Benji was great. I was impressed by Benji, because he's had a couple of lines here and there, but this was like a real scene. His divorce is going through on Zach's birthday, what a birthday present that is to both of them. It's just lovely. Yeah, and I thought that it was cool that Zach's able to sit there and have this conversation about his ex-husband and to hear Benji say, you know, he was the one that wanted the divorce. I was still in love.

It took like a year and a half to get over it. Zach's able to, like, sit there and listen to him. instead of getting butt hurt about the fact. Yeah, I kind of figured he was going to be petty about that. He wasn't. He wasn't. He handled it great. Just let Benji go.

Yeah, and then he unveiled his Scrotox, which I guess was a present for Benji, according to him. So, lovely scene. He's still confused about that, but yeah. Benji was, too. He was like, why did you do that? Yeah. Why? And I'm also, yeah, I'm confused about what it happens.

Because I thought, we talked about it, I thought it would tighten up. Yeah. But apparently it's some go down. Lower. I don't know Tis a mystery Go do that too and let us know Yeah I mean I don't yeah

I don't understand me do that all in one visit Get my sperm count and then also get a scrotox Two birds of ones I'll chip in if that's the case Start wearing like loose fitting pants and stuff It just seems uncomfortable Loose fitting pants Yeah no no no no Have your balls hang

Oh yeah yeah yeah well when we're older We'll never mind Let's get to JAN Sheena, Brock, and Jason for a scene that I don't give a fuck about. And thank God it's really quick because we're about to get to the Zen party. Just had to write it down just because this group of morons sitting around planning for this party and talking about, you know, Janet can't be hammered around these people or she's going to yell. And Brock's like, oh, you're going to let others like, that's British. I'm aware.

He's going to sit there and try to give some speech about you can't let others dictate your life. It's like you don't get to talk about life advice. You're such a nothing, just such a nobody that it doesn't matter. And this scene, it was just so stupid. And then, of course, Jason comes out and he's like, I bring a tequila just in case. Cool, dude. Go back in the, go, go away. I understand there's an open bar.

Like, what is this? I got the tequila. God, it's so stupid. It's also more like, and I love how they miss so badly on it. I can't, if you're Janet, you can't get too drunk or else you're going to yell around these people. If you get too drunk, they're going to call the kettle black. like here you go you can't be doing this while you're hammered again exactly this early in the day as nea pointed out a couple of weeks ago so no great move but let's get to the zen party at yamashiro

and michel reminds us that her mom is very sick and we got a little clip i guess her first round of chemo did not work so if you lump it all together and i think it's easy to gloss over and miss like she has had a fucked up year it's been a really shitty year so i do i empathize and i'm i think she's handled herself well, given all of the circumstances that she's going through. But any time that you name a party, a Zen party on a Bravo show, you know it's going to go ass backwards. Yeah. Like this is not going to end well. Also, they probably told her like, hey, this is going to be the big event at the end of the season. Just maybe just do a party. Yeah. You know, bounce houses or something. You know, safe. Because I don't think Michelle would do this intentionally. Like, oh, it's going to be ironic.

I don't think so. I think that she went into it like, They always do, right? Everybody that plans them. I'm going to have the party that actually brings people to do. Yeah. It never were. We saw Atlanta at Jab Jab was the closest successful trip that we saw. Yeah.

Where they seemed to come together. They actually had fun. Yeah. This was more like, here's your gift bag. Sweet moment in the beginning. Was it? I didn't really care. I thought it.

Well, yeah, you're on Jackson's team there. I don't believe in this shit. No, it wasn't even that. The funny thing about that is I, if people use Christ, and you have a better life and you feel like you want to go ahead and give credit to the crystals. Go right ahead. Oh, it's not like astrology where it's like you're a real piece of shit. Oh, it's because you were born in August.

It's because Mars is in the fourth moon of the dingle face. It's literally it's Jack's going to rehab. I can't help it. I've got an anger problem. I can't help it. I was born in August. You can't help that Virgo and Sagittarius are in the seventh moon. That's actually what I should start doing.

I should look at all the bad things about my astrology. sign and blame it on that and then just be like what do you want me to do i was born in february i just can't help it i've gone to therapy i've gone to this i've taken medication the moon it's just it's fucking me i'm gonna buy you crystals it's fucking me in the ass jesus jupiter yeah the biggest planet there is yeah fuck you jupiter but she gives speeches to everybody uh or give speech to everybody and everyone's got their own crystal with a little note in it and i like the sentiment of if jessie and i can get along that anybody can get along that that's when you get Jack's chatting.

I don't believe in this shit. The fact he says, I don't believe in stars. I understand what he's alluding to. I could believe that he truly doesn't believe in stars. I'm going to take that for face value. I don't think he believes in stars. No, he's probably believes in like the firmament and those idiots that believe that there's holes in the ceiling.

Yeah, he thinks he's on the Truman Show probably. Yeah, honestly. That actually would explain a lot. Yeah, that might track. He thinks that he's always on him. There's main character energy and then there's main character syndrome. There's Truman's show. That's a syndrome.

That was labeled that after the Truman Show. Yeah. A lot of people saw that. And they're like, there's simulations and then there's whatever the hell I'm doing. Truman Show. Truman Show. Trusman Show. But anyway, dear Jacks, your strength is inspiring.

It was baffling. Just fucking baffling. Who's inspired? Nobody. Nobody. And immediately after that, Luke, which I didn't love this move, but whatever, he's like, you want to get a shot? Jack's like, yeah, I haven't drank in an hour.

great time for a shot I haven't been to rehab in a week I'm good ask literally anybody else on the cast I know that was tough but Jackson Brittany Jack's pulls her aside

to have a conversation I knew this wasn't gonna go well but why he said it wasn't gonna be an argument oh you're right we're supposed to believe everything he says I mean I know Jason does but he left his anger at home

he sure sure didn't sure didn't do that and as he's talking to Brittany He's like, I know what he's doing. He's like, I showed the dudes to place, and, like, they all thought it was great. And what do you think about a universal camera? It's like, that's the bare minimum, sir. The bare minimums is universal camera.

My brain immediately went to, he thinks that he can hack into it somehow. Like, just put it on your account, you know, that way you can access it. And then he's going to figure out a way to, like, hardwire into it so you can see her cameras. The ring technician comes over. Even though he says, and we should believe him, he doesn't care what she does. I don't care what you're doing. You do. You care more than anything.

This is, it's a ploy. You're trying to get into her system again. But it's also, he doesn't care because he wants to get back together. He doesn't want to lose. Yeah. That's what it's about. Correct. His ego doesn't want to, quote unquote, lose this divorce.

And the fact that he's still trying to pull at the sympathy card, he's like, you know, you did this divorce thing while I was in rehab. He never gave me a chance. It's like even if she had waited, you got out and were the same exact person as when you went into this facility. And I will, I'm not calling it rehab anymore. It's also very funny, too, because he already had this. the townhouse before he got out of rehab.

Yep. So you're already planning on moving on, moving out, doing all of those things. Did you ever, and you've never said this, so if you really want to keep this facade up, you should have probably slipped in a, I got a really nice townhouse. We downsize a little bit. It's near Schwartz, so he can help out with Cruz whenever. It makes a lot of sense for us to maybe downsize and come in here when we're ready. If you had said something like that, then at least you could have something to reference.

you got this townhouse before she even divorced you and said you never gave me a chance you never gave the marriage a chance by coming out and being a different person you could have put on a whole dog and pony show and tried to do something and acted like you gave a shit about the marriage for at least a month after rehab

said you were a different person just to see what Brittany does and try to manipulate her instead you didn't do any of those things and now you're like what the hell what happened you didn't do anything blindsided our favorite word I got blindsided by this whole thing and I'm glad that we get an answer because I figured we would about the text messages,

about the flowers at the house and everything. He's like, you know, you're calling me every name in the book the next day. You're texting me pictures of flowers. You're talking blah, blah, blah. She's like, no,

dickhead. I was pissed off that you're trying to gaslight me about this house and honestly trying to gaslight women in general by saying they apparently can't own four bedroom homes with yards because they're women.

So she's showing you the backyard being like, hey, look, house is still in order. You're not. here I can handle myself and he's like no no I mean this is so fucking funny bro I meant financially

you're gonna see she's been paying everything for the entirety of owning the home apparently because you can't pay your taxes you didn't pay the mortgage you are a scum person that can't do anything that you need to do to take care of your family

not only that but then you kick them down a hole because you buy a condo and leave her with a $17,000 a month mortgage, which is shocking that she can pay that just because it's such an exorbitant amount of money. And you leave her with that while you go and rent your own place.

I just love that Britney's come to this stage of whatever the hell they're going through where we watched her finally put her foot down, still crying that she's packing up all of Jacks' stuff. Now she's being petty. Yep, I love that. She has moved very, very, quickly and I love it.

The bell. Yeah. Love to see it. And he keeps trying to pull at her heartstrings and, you know, he's like, I went in and like, I thought that you'd give me a chance when I got out. She's like, you rage texted me the entire time. He's like, no, uh, two weeks. She's like, yeah, because I blocked you for the other two weeks, dumbass.

And then I had the best week of my life, the best two weeks of my life. I went out with my friends. I had fun. He said, yeah, you hooked up with guys. Maybe she did. Maybe she did. None of your business. We know you hooked up with girls because she saw them on the camera.

So this double standard that you're trying to hold her to is ridiculous. And the real jacks comes out in the end as we knew we would. So you're going to sign the papers? I'm going to wait for the very last day. Why? Because because, because I'm a little bitch boy with tiny penis energy. And I am a raging alcoholic and I love cocaine still. Yeah.

That's what I heard. Pretty much. That's what I heard too. Okay, cool. He knew he lost. Yeah. Let's throw one little jab in there. Yep.

I hold all the power. I can do this. You don't hold shit. And I guarantee you, by the way, he's going to wait to live. very last day and then probably filing correctly starts the whole process over again yeah 100% oh we're almost through it almost but janet and nia janet is very aware extraordinarily aware that this is the last episode of the season trying to do damage control late hey nea i know things aren't great but like if you do ever want to talk about it and like i hate the tone yeah tone always pisses

me off because she's trying to put it on nia yeah she's trying to say when you're ready she was talking like i guess the context wise she was talking about them being friends i got if you ever want to talk about danny being a drunk to come talk to me oh really yeah that's kind of what i was pulling through i was reading through the lines i wouldn't be surprised if that that was yeah kind of if you ever want to talk about what you're going through and all the stuff that you're dealing with i'm here come talk to me not our friendship i don't i just i failed to realize that janet is actually putting a potential friendship up first no i thought She's still being petty and she's still trying to drive whatever the fuck she's trying to do with Danny.

I think there's something there. I didn't notice that, but I think you might be on to something. But at the very least, in a confessional, she's like, you know, I at least owe her like an apology. I know I caused her pain. And Nia's not having it. She's like, you know, I think just like space and a breather and then a confessional, she's like, I don't need a breather. I'm not talking to this person ever again because she's a piece of shit. And it comes back to the essay statement, which is unforgivable.

and the context of it once again the parties involved are moving forward so for her to hang on to this whole thing is brutal and she gives a half ass well just know like I'm here cheers

ha ha please help me come back to the show next year yeah like I really want to come back ultra aware of the finale ridiculous let's talk about Doty Jesse and Luke and you know Jesse this this I believed yeah I did believe him in this scene

and you know he's he's working through all this shit. Now, as far as him bringing up his finances, stop buying 5,000 pedals and stop doing stupid shit with your money. Stop booking. I know that the cast or the crew probably paid for the trip to the winery or whatever and staying there.

But like, maybe stop going to the chateau for a little bit. Yeah, you know. It's like an expensive place. Things like that. If you're worried about losing your home, custody, and your beanie, like, rain it in. Yeah. It was raining in a little bit. It's not keeping up with the Joneses. I don't know, might be a good way to do it, but he's working through it in his own way. And I'm curious, I'm very curious how he's going to be next season. Yeah.

Because he's going to have a lot of time, not a lot, but there's time in between filming. Given where they're leaving things, I'm just curious to see when we pick cameras back up. Maybe him and Michelle will get back together. It's so funny. I thought that. Yeah. I thought that. Yeah. Aaron's gone out of the picture.

See you, honey. Just try. That's all. next season's going to be. Them trying. Them trying to date again. I'm here for. Them entertaining me.

I don't know. She doesn't, no, she doesn't need to go back to that. He doesn't need to go back to that. What? That's what we were saying, right? Let's talk about Danny and Nia. Danny's drinking water. This is, this is the moment.

This is when I got irate. I was so pissed off. He's drinking water. Cut the Jacks. I'm tired of his bullshit games. And Jason's eating it up. He's eating up every single word. And I figured it out.

Jason's got a man crush on Jacks. Yeah. 100%. Also, let's just look at this for one second as normal people. Okay. Somebody has a problem drinking and they haven't been drinking for three weeks and they're drinking water in front of you. Are you going to get mad about that? No, I'm going to say, hey, man.

I'm glad that you. Yeah, good for you. Nice job. Keep it up. Yeah. You know, pat on the back maybe. Yeah. Maybe a.

Hey, you look great. Hey, you look great. Are you happier? Yeah. You feel better? You seem better. Maybe even, maybe it's a little too far. If you ever need somebody to talk to, I'm here.

I just went to a facility and I can get you in touch with them. Yeah. If you ever feel like you're losing control, might be overstepping, but you can talk to me if you want to. Yeah, we might just chat about it. That at least might come across as, it's going to come across as disingenuous because it's jacks, but, you know, it might make you feel a little bit better. Perhaps. You might try to take a step in the right direction of potentially being a good.

friend. Sure. I don't know. All is that ball in here. That makes sense to me as a normal person. Yeah. Yeah, maybe try that route. You know what you shouldn't do. Here's you shouldn't do. What's that? Compare him to serial killers. Yeah, that'll be tough. Yeah, that's pretty shitty look, especially as somebody that just got out of a treatment center, you would know how to handle these things a little bit better.

Let's not compare him to Jeffrey Dahmer. Everybody knows that Dahmer and Ted Bundy were great dudes. Full-blown alcoholics. Yeah. And they were great dudes when they weren't drunk. I haven't heard that once. I think, yeah. Haven't? No. Oh, Dahmer was a full-blood alcohol. Was he?

Yeah. Okay. Well, I haven't heard that. Those serial killers are fascinating. I just assumed that they were drunk on power. No, no, no. Domar was a, like, raging alcoholic. Yeah, that's where he used to meet his victims.

He'd go to gay bars in Ohio and pick up gentlemen. I don't watch that show with, uh, oh, dude. What's his name? It's good. Yeah. It's really good. If you're into like the serial killer thing. They went through, everybody went through a phase of like, we're going to, not glorify,

but like, we're going to. It was glorified. We're going to put somebody. I put somebody really hot like Evan Peters in a Dahmer role. He was great in it, though. Yeah. He was great. And it's interesting.

I'm kind of happy they got away from that, though. Me too. Stop doing the dramatization shit. Yeah, we don't need to glorify serial killers. It is fascinating to me. There are many enough people, like, writing letters to them in jail being like, I love you. It's so crazy to me. Like, Charles Manson had like 10 wives on the outside.

Weirdos. Crazy. But I will say, Evan Peters, it was really interesting after filming Dahmer. Yeah, he was a little fucked up. Yeah, because he really, he's, phenomenal in it but you actually believe that he's like a little fucked up yeah and he had like a really hard time coming back to reality after portraying i get that so give that a watch guys it's actually a fantastic show but you know who's not geoffrey domer who's that monday is danny's a

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I know exactly what it is. Again, he found somebody project his insecurities and his alcoholism on, and he picked Danny because other people are gunning for Danny. This was the last straw with Aaron. Why are you commenting on it? And he's a sweet guy. Fuck off. You're not part of the group. Yep.

We don't care about what you have to say. Go over there with your weird eyes and like, leave us all alone. I'm glad that you guys broke up. Aaron was like even a little excited that Jackson is getting activated about it. I know. It's like, what is going on? Who are you? I really get it.

Like, I understand when Jesse finally hits that point and he's like, I don't know what the fuck's going on. That's more of a, he's probably actually friends with Jackson and actually likes Jacks, understands that he's got problems. If he can't even wrap his head around this, there's a problem. Yeah. There's something's going on. You don't need the honey guy to step in and be like, yeah, you're really. right well that's jason's voice but who okay let's get to it this is the one this is where my uh my anger meter was off the charts you do have an anger problem don't you don't gaslight me right now

danny and jacks so you tell me fuck you like immediately if that was in his shoes i would say fuck you to his face and i danny handled it well actually yeah he laughed enough you know i thought that it could have went a lot worse but danny brings up the fact that he hasn't been invited to dudes night and you know the reasoning behind that is oh you're probably out getting drunk somewhere he's like look man look let me just stop you're a terrible drunk you're a terrible drunk danny laughs rightfully so he's like what are you talking about he goes you don't have a fucking leg to stand i'm not a terrible drunk i have an anger problem i i know i don't have a leg to stand on we went to a facility i went to a fucking facility bro again and i'm so glad

it's the last time i have to say this yeah well we've got the reunion we do parts of reunion. We have the reunion. But it is so proof positive that he is not at all changed and is the same person that he went in because everything that he says is counterintuitive to what people in recovery say. We don't speak in absolutes. We always say things like, I hope I never drink again, but I'm not dumb enough to assume that I will make it through the rest of my life without having a drink. I have to work at it and hopefully I'm able to continue the road that I've been on. He speaks an absolute. And at the, like, the worst part of it is that he's putting it on other people. As you talked about earlier, there is a type of person that gets out of rehab, and now they are the utmost expert on it, and they tried to diagnose everybody they know. That is the most incorrect way to do it. The way to do it is if people come to you, because of your experiences, you talk to them, but you don't go over to people and go, you have a problem.

Yep. But he found somebody to take all of his issues out on, and Danny was getting the shit beat out of him this season and he goes in and in he brings up that he goes to his bar and he's touching him multiple times multiple times it's once bro and we know it's once and he's talked to the people afflicted about it this false narrative of jacks being this fixed person and the fact that the fucking producers on this show allowed for him to go down this road the entire season unabated by trying to help him out with the background music being sentimental and trying to show Jason helping him out when all he's doing

is enabling and making him worse as somebody in recovery pisses me off so fucking much and I don't hate a lot of people like genuinely hate people I fucking hate Jacks Taylor I would love

and I hope this gets out there I've said it before I would love if him and I could have an exhibition boxing match and we can donate shit to charity we can do a charity event so if you deny it now you're denying charities, Jacks. Let's box, and I'll knock your fucking teeth in, and then maybe, just maybe for

a split second, a split second, you'll have a come to Jesus moment and be like, wow, I am a gigantic piece of shit. Probably not, but I'll feel a lot better. And again, I would never hit anybody, but if it's an exhibition boxing match and it's sanctioned, bring it on, motherfucker. Let's do this. Like, that's the point that I'm at with this guy. And thank God, Nia comes over and she's trying to defend Danny, then he goes into this fairy tale bullshit. You guys live this fairy tale of life and it's like,

are you always, nothing that he said has ever come out of Danny Rania's mouth. They've never claimed perfection. They've never claimed that they're protected. They never claimed any of these things. I love the way the Nia did it too because she matched Danny's energy. Obviously Danny gets ticked off at the end, which is fine.

I don't think he did anything wrong by the way. He has the right to it. Yeah, he gets pissed off and he's like, I've been dealing with it. And he has. been dealing with it the entire season, but I love Nia stepping in, immediately pointing the finger back in Jackson's face. What are you talking about him being drunk at your bar before? I almost hate you with the car because you were stumbling in the middle of the road. Well, I've never stumbled in the middle of road. That's just bullshit. Everything you're saying about Danny is bullshit. Yes. So why is it now okay? Or you can deny that. Danny's not allowed

to deny anything. And I love that Danny just kind of takes the approach of, am I going to be able to talk in this conversation? Is it going to be one-sided? No, I'm going to talk first. I'm going to get this all out for. No, absolutely not. Like, whatever. whatever, then there's no point in having the conversation. Everybody just gets up in arms. Finally, you get somebody like Jesse coming over and like pulling Jackson away. Like, what the fuck is this? Doty comes over.

It's got everybody's attention. It's too much. Everybody knows what's going on. Brittany's not getting involved, but that's okay. Brittany doesn't have to get involved. Flash to Janet and Jason. Should we get involved? Absolutely not.

We've got player number one over there doing our dirty work. Exactly. We don't have to get involved. Is this where the theory started to, we've been pedaling this the whole season. Now Jackson is out of rehab. let him go do that let him go to bat it'll get enough eyes on it and then people can understand where we are no that's not that's not gonna work no and i'm glad that danny takes

some shots not actual alcohol shots but he takes some shots at jacks and he goes you know he's sleeping with his staff fuck yeah say that shit get it out there and nia of course because nia's a nice person and doesn't want to go down that road is like danny like i love when she says daddy we're we're on camera he's like yeah we're on camera right now too there's one right there points right at the cat. Yeah. And I understand what Nea, and I respect their relationship

and how they handle things because you see Nia try to rein them in and like things get heated every now and then, but they respect each other because they're actually a happy functioning marriage unlike anything else we see on the show other than Doty and Luke love them too.

But for Jacks to take the approach that he did, I'm glad that Danny outed him for sleeping with his staff members. He outs Britney for knowing about it. Yep. Which I thought was a good shot to take as well. Lateral damage, throw it out there. The response from Jacks, I'll take a vodka soda. He's changed.

There you go. He's changed. That's all we needed to see. He's definitely changed. And then Doty comes over, goes to bat for Danny and says the most logical thing. You haven't been here to know what's going on. Danny doesn't have a problem. You need to go anywhere else and leave these two alone.

now Danny and this was actually probably my favorite scene of the episode because it's the Zen party and you get a four split screen Danny and Ni are getting into it because Nia doesn't want to get into the drama and Danny's fed up with Jacks

you've got Michelle and Jesse now they're arguing now they're arguing about the grandmom thing which I'm on Michelle's side on Michelle's side here because she's like you haven't asked about her once he's like that's not my place it's like if you even knew her

guys just had like a nice conversation yesterday you could have ended it with like how's your mom doing yeah that would have been nice clearly you haven't talked about isabella learning about death or anything right now you guys aren't nobody's zen not zen there because then you cut over to sheena and schina and zack are now getting into it over the jena stuff which we already know who's the culprit for that it's janet we have all the evidence in the world we've seen it i love that that's the one that we end up focusing it on too because there's so much going on right now it's like we got to know Danny and they are, Danny starts, he's fed up. He went through it the whole season. Yeah. You know what? Is Danny my favorite person on the cast? No, probably not, but I think he's a good dude. Seems like a solid guy. Any normal person who's been taking a beating over this shit for the entire season is going to hit a breaking point. And I love that he's not drunk for it. And I love that his breaking. Nobody can easily just do low hanging fruit. Oh, he's drunk Danny. There goes dark side Danny. He's out in Jacks for sleeping with his staff. And Brittany knows about it. He's throwing shit around. It's not real. He's sober. He's sober. There's nothing you can say.

to this man because he's been through it and now he's sober, still going through it. He can say whatever the fuck he wants. Great. Let's move on to what really matters. Where the fuck did this Jenner thing come from? Yeah, what does this? Janet, get your ass over here. And she wants no part of it. She wants to leave. She wants no part of it.

And like, that's not how the show goes. You've thrown stones the entire season, Janet, and backed up by your lackey and Jason and Brittany. It's time for you to answer for these things in front of the group. And you have no issue calling out Doty in front of the entire table at El Coyote. But when the tables are turned, about the same topic, by the way, you can't answer for it. You can't get into it because you don't want to have your feet held to the fire.

And nobody's letting up. What I will say about Danny before we get into the full Jenna thing, the best part about Danny's reactions, he's not overreacting. He's very like, you know, he's raising his voice a little bit. He's irritated, but he's not screaming and yelling. He's just, you can tell this is. a man that is fed up. Yep. He's done. So I loved how he handled it. But let's get into the

the Jenna stuff, right? Because Sheena, Doty, and Zach are now talking. And Sheena, like, why are you here to talk about this? You don't really matter in this scene. And, like, her chiming in every now and then, it's like, shush. That's what Kristen does. We know

Kristen's behind it. Shut up. Stop. Even if she was behind it, I don't want you saying it. But she's not, and you weren't here either. So, like, that's another thing around. She's like, I'm hearing that I brought Jenner around to hurt Michelle question mark. It's like, no, actually, you and Janet planned this whole thing because we have proof of that already. So why are you saying? And Zach has already stepped up too and said, Jenna's a friend of mine.

We've known each other since I moved to L.A. I brought her around as well. Doty had nothing to do with this. There's a lot of times that we can say, no, Doty probably had a hand in it. Yeah. I don't think that this is that. One of them. No.

And Janet is the only person that can answer for all of them. this and janet's the problem and janet's not going she's not going to talk about it and zach goes on to list the ways that janet has attempted to ruin lives this season between the danny and the essay thing between what else has she done i already i forgot to write everything down like there's just too much to point to of her meddling it even goes back to like last season too all the shit that she did last season like she finally just has to cop to everything right like hey we've got a long laundry list of the things that you've tried to do on this show, answer for them.

Which is what we've wanted the whole time as an audience. Nobody likes Janet. I haven't seen one person online that likes Janet. So everybody really wants her to answer for it because that's how these shows work. You do stuff, you don't just get to float around on the shadows and act like you're better than everybody else.

You do have to answer for it at some point. It's all going to come out right now. Now we're all doing it because Zach is drunk and activated. Yeah. That's all it takes apparently. He was off the rails. He was a loose cannon, but it was so fucking funny. He calls out.

Brittany for supporting Janet. He goes as far to say, you're under the same spell as her as you were with Jacks. I was like, ooh, shit. Pretty funny. Well said, but that's got to sting a little bit. And then Doty and Janet are getting into it. And Michelle's like, can you at least apologize

for calling her a whore and threatening to hit her? And she's like, that's all I said. That was me being nice. Yeah. Janet, this is the best point that Doty made. It's like you and I were legitimately best friends. You know exactly how I tick and operate them. You know that I say, I love how she words colorful things when I'm heated.

And everybody watching, did we think that Doty was going to punch Janet? No. Does Doty have evidence for calling Janet a whore? No. She was just saying things because she was upset. And I like that she put it back on Jan. Like, you know me.

And she's like, if I called you a whore, I'm sorry, like a soft apology. And then you get Jason and Jason jumps and he goes, the fact that he doesn't see the difference in this. If I called you a whore and threatened to punch, you would be totally different. Yeah, dude. Yeah, very different. Incredibly different.

You should have said if Janet said that. Correct. It would be different, but it would actually wouldn't. It would be the same. Yes. So you're wrong. But you saying it is wildly different. So.

Just love the, Jason, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, Jason, fuck off. Let the girls talk. You have nothing to do with this. Go away. Well, I'm at. No, he's all pissed off. Okay.

All right. I'm going to go sit in the car, Janet. I'm going to go warm it up for you. Oh, boy. we're almost there. Doty brings last season up again because that seems to be the center of attention at the moment. And she says, well, if that was the case, why are you licking my ass all season or all last summer? And Janet gives the runaround about everything.

Jason tells Jasmine to relax. Shut up, Jason. Way to go, dude. Jasmine, way to stay mellow. Yeah. That would have sent me. Way to actually relax. Yeah, that would have sent me over the edge.

Not like a condescending way. No, like you handled yourself well in not biting there because I know personally, I'd be like, oh, ho, ho, ho, you want me to relax? Well, guess what? And then Sheena jumps. I don't even know what she said. She says something. It doesn't matter. Who cares? Relevant. Then Janet leaves. And Zach starts going

in and he's like, why? Fuck you whore and like all these other things. And then Janet gets tough. She turns out, what did you call me? And then Jason, now he's going to get tough. Jason comes over, like bowed up, like ready to go. Nothing comes up, obviously. And I would also take Zach in that altercation over Jason.

Yeah. Then Brock catches a stray, which was just kind of funny. That was just funny. That was just funny because... Rock was on just Zach's side, which was weird. He's like, just, you know, take a breath. He's like, bitch, I will hit you. I was like, hell yeah.

He doesn't really deserve it in this moment. Brog's like, I'm on your side. I'm just trying to calm everything down. Dude. It's like, I don't fucking care. Wait, I didn't get charged for my donut. It was free with his Tim's rewards points. I think I just stole it.

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that she can't recognize what everybody that has been close to her for longer has been trying to say. Jasmine's like, look, he feels, it's like she's explaining to a five-year-old that you give Janet more grace than you give to him. Cut to confessional.

Brittany, I'll say it before, I'll say it again. She's been a great friend to me, so what am I supposed to do is she's a good friend of me? She just chuckles at the end. It's like you just don't get it. just a bad friend and like that's part of it like if if there was somebody that we knew for example that treated you like shit and was rude to you and mean to you I wouldn't be

friends with them yeah I would because you're my boy simple it's very simple like I even if I didn't hate them I'd like you know what I'm not gonna figure it out or at the very least say something yeah like hey what the fuck yeah I would I would bring it up to that person like why are you such a dick to my boy and she's had so many different moments where she could have at least asked Janet where are you doing that yeah starting last year the baby moon. What does Zach have to do with anything? Yeah, what's going on here? And then Zach gets activated. Then you can talk to Zach and be like, all right, Zach, you can't say shit like that. Both things can be true. You're allowed to do both. You're allowed to do that with your

friends. She just never does it. She always takes Janet's side. Yep, very obvious. And you get a quick like run through of, you know, Jasmine's going to propose this off season, which is great, either in the Philippines or Australia. That's cool. Assume she did. I would imagine she did at this point. She was doing it within a month. Oh, yeah. So they must be at this point. So congrats to them hopefully so i was concerned because she said either in the philippines or what was the other one new zealand australia uh she said maybe within a month you haven't got your tickets oh yeah new zealand tickets like what what the hell philippines that that pricey yeah come on let me tell you i ever tell you i played baseball australia yeah yeah let's get to some questions

all right first one up here from beth loves beer 18 love that user no yeah what percentage of the audience do you think believes and sides with janet 2.5 percent i don't don't think that anybody does. I think just by Numbies 2%. Just because there's a lot of people watching this show. From Janice Frillman, are you happy? Only three more Jacks episodes. It's three too many.

Yep. I'll be happy when it's over. I'm actually, there's a part of me that's glad that he's at the reunion because I want him to just be held to the fire. Yeah. From Sal Bryant, did you notice that Jason's not wearing his wedding ring on the Jacks's boys catch up? He doesn't have to anymore.

Oh, yeah. He's got a tattooed. To remind him of Doty every day. from DM Jazz Wall. What are your thoughts on Nia being concerned with things being on camera? Little controlling, question mark. I don't think it's controlling. I think it's optics.

I think it's optics. It's tough on a show like this. We can admit that. Agreed. But I don't think it's controlling. I don't get controlling. I get more, like you said, she's trying to control their image. And I also think that's problematic because if you're going to sign up for the show,

unfortunately you got a bear at all and like we saw that last season as well towards the finale when they went and talked uh after the big bear trip there was a few moments where it's like we're not doing this now and like i respect that that's how they operate in real life but on a reality tv show those are the things that you're signing up for so i don't think controlling but i do think it's problematic uh from cragster btn was jacks going after danny jeremiah at work again very welcome i mean i don't i think jacks is doing it regardless i think that you know they were on the rooftop of that condo uh jeremiah alex baskin and jacks probably enjoying some ac together and probably cooked up some fun storylines for the season that's what i think that's a possibility

well this is a really good point actually and this was the word that was being thrown around from uh rosy m carlino in what world were danny and nia protected this season who protected them Like, nobody, I know what he did, but, like, we didn't see... It's not a protection. She's standing up for it. Yeah, and it's not a, yeah, exactly. It's not even protection. Uh, from Jenna Sof, can you rank the men in order of how evil they are? Like one being the most evil?

Yeah, I guess I know. Uh, I would go, Danny. What? I go, Zach. Wait, most one, or you're going, yeah, from least evil to most. I would say, Zach, Zach, Zach and Danny are probably negative. No, Luke. Oh, yeah, Luke, Luke is definitely the least.

Zach and Danny, I would lump together. Then I would go, Jesse, Jason, Jacks. Is that all the guys? Yeah, I think so. What about Brock? He's on the show. Irrelevant. He's an asterisk next to it.

That doesn't matter. Oh, did you see Watch What Happens Live? Zach was wearing a shirt that said, who's show? Yeah, that's great. That was incredible. That was dope. um all right we'll do one more if i can find something in here oh this is wild i don't know if this counts from everett's 3594 am i the only one who doesn't feel sorry for brittney um

depends so that's a loaded question there's and i i talked about this early on i thought that it was kind of bullshit that she was catching so much shit for simply having been married to jacks i don't think that's cool uh i don't have sympathy as far as she's a terrible friend but as far as what that man's putter through if you don't have sympathy i don't really understand how you how your brain ticks but yeah that's just me and last one here uh from health gotter are you ready for single michel i think she may have secured herself a spot on next season i'm ready for single michel and single jesse yeah it's going to be an interesting so that's what i'm most curious about where they stand up yeah curious about if janet and jason

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