Bros & Shows - Jealous of Jeremiah: The Case Against Ace (Love Island ep. 15+16+18 Full Recap)

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

What's up Bros? We were sent reeling by the recent events in the Villa. Some choices were made by the cast that we simply cannot support. With the new bombshells entering the house we have some new couples and bonds forming. We also witness one of the grossest challenges to date withe way too much milk involved. Huda is trying her best to get back out there but she does so by stepping on Hannah's toes. Jeremiah and Andreina hit it off as him and Iris realize that its just platonic. But the main focus of this episode is Ace and his shananigans. We see some ego getting in the way as his jealousy of Jeremiah is shining through. The other dudes in the house listen to him way too much and now with the Chelly theory picking up steam, it looks like the only scammer in the house is him. After a disastrous vote this season takes a sharp left turn one day before Casa Amour... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hot weekends down to Nashville. Yeah. Let's get back to it. I'm going to have me my bros and shows. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows.

I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Villa Goots. What's up, dude? Welcome back to the villa. I thought, well, I felt that I was so out of the loop because I was unable to watch Friday and Sunday's episode. The first two episodes that I hadn't watched at least like as close to 9 p.m. as possible. And I just don't understand how you avoid spoilers. I already do what happened. I was so pissed off when I got home this morning.

It's awful. You got to get on my, my algorithm. Because I don't get any spoilers. We, I think. We have a lot of talk about algorithms. I think we need to find a middle ground for both of us. I shouldn't just doomscroll all day long. Yeah, we need to get to a middle ground.

Okay. But here's the thing, though. I think it did kind of soften the blow that I knew what happened at the end of Sunday night's episode. If I had watched that live and had to do with all of the dramatic pauses, screaming at my TV to just hurry it up, usually I don't do that when Ariana's there. But without Ariana there, just waiting on these idiot ass islanders who i hate all of them right now now they have to announce things half of them can barely read like spit it out that was my whole thing that's what

i you know i'm with you i very rarely will not even like not pay attention to this show let alone fast forward or skip anything but during that the fire scene you didn't want to just start skipping through that i here's the thing like that was the worst thing i ever seen It was absolutely foul. I could, like, smell it, I could taste it. I didn't care for it. But my whole thing, you know how much I pay attention to body language and the nonverbal stuff? Yeah.

So during things like that, like, I just think it's so important to watch how their couple or their partners looking at them doing what they're doing. You know, I think you got a lot of Sierra from watching Nick. And like, if I missed that, then I might not be up with everything. But for the vote itself, I did, it was crazy how much you could skip. And they still hadn't made a decision. Like, I was just like, okay, okay. Unbelievable. And again, I mean, I knew who the bottom three were for each.

And I knew who went home, unfortunately. It took so long, just so, so long. And it didn't matter who got the top because they, of course, said, you know, in no particular order, which, by the way, I think it was in a particular order. Because the two top dogs from each, you know, Elandria went first. Elandria went first. Yeah. And she did get the best. She was the highest vote for, for favorite in that villa.

and um i want to say shit i want to say taylor actually or no i guess taylor was first or second i may have skipped through the dudes actually now i'm not really sure taylor was first or second he was top two uh and let me just start this out i should have started the episode with this taylandria lives taylandria for life they are not taking my favorite couple apart and look i'm getting a lot of shit shit for this i'm getting a lot of shit from this from my wife okay it is it is hit way too close to home this is invaded my household now we're we're going to couples therapy in regards to tail andria now no but i need to everybody you've heard me saying it all season i am still 10 toes

down i'm i'm 10 fingers down now i'm on all just dug in wait you just you just just wait, wait till the end of this season, and you're all going to be like, wow, Steele was so right. Here's the thing that I would like our listeners to please do. Do not tell Steele that he's wrong because he will go 10 toes, 10 fingers, his nose, his ass in the sand, and he will not listen to anything, and he will double, triple, quadruple down. There's nothing we can do about that. Yep.

So just leave, leave the guy alone. Leave him alone. You're all going to make it so much worse. Leave Brittany alone. Leave Brittany alone. Yeah, it's definitely. But let's get back to the bestest friends that ever were with no romantic connection. They are so great.

You shut your fucking mouth. They are. Hold on. And I'll let you go, because I will do this. All right. I will use, I'll play devil's advocate a little bit, okay? With yourself? Yeah.

And just to anybody else out there that thinks I'm blind to what's going on. I'm not blind. Like the way that they kiss, that's not it. that certainly is not it he kisses her like a like you would kiss like an acquaintance it's like so i agree but i think they're building a real foundation that you can you can take from the villa and let it blossom somewhere in the south on their on their farm together doesn't that sound nice i think at the end of this we should probably do predictions because we have cost some more coming up tonight um and that kind of goes right into what i would think is going to happen but i'm not

going to speak on it now. We'll save that for the end of the episode. But I do love that. I think they have such a great rapport. And they translate their friendship. And that wasn't, that's not a dig. Just hear me out. Their friendship translates very well to the audience because they are both clocking so much behavior from everybody. Now, they're not clocking the most important behavior. And that would be the little guy over there in the corner who's just giving marching orders. I mean they look out with the big ass head? I'll say it. It's huge. It's like an orange on a toothpick.

It's a certain weather system. Don't cry yourself to sleep on your huge pillow. His feet don't even hit the ground when he sits down. Like, how do you do that all the time? Don't you just like lose feeling? Imagine if we see one point he's just like kicking back and forth because that's what he's used to. Swinging his, swinging his cutcies. Yeah, look, I've been going lighter on him.

But yeah, he deserves a lot of shit. and we're going to give it to them. It's just so hypocritical. And the other part of it is a lot has transpired. And I do need, and this kind of goes into the vote later, America needs to chill. We got one right. The Huda Jeremiah thing was awesome, but also Love Island needs to chill. Stop giving the Islanders the choice.

They make the wrong choice every time. So let's, you know, pull some power away. Because you have one dude on the dude's side leading the charge. I didn't think he was that ringleader. I don't know seven episodes ago but now he certainly is and I agree you're 100% correct

this and we're not going to spoil it because you guys get mad at us when we spoil it in the same episode but the decision made at the end of this was not the correct decision you are 100% right about that yeah and I have a theory about that but you know it's the same as every other theory

when people get booted that they're going to come back for Casa and more it's got to be they already showed who's coming to Casa and more it's nobody nobody that we know well no yeah and they wouldn't spoil that though that would be a surprise either way even if it was like bell dash you're coming back they they wouldn't tell us that she was coming back um but anyway why don't we start breaking down these episodes because we're already losing track i know the hell we are they jumble up and just for reference we are doing episode 15 16 and 18 in this recap we we try to stay somewhat chronological but inevitably we

end up just jumping around everywhere because we'll get stuck on one thing. I mean, one of my highlights of the season, and she needs to be a recurring guest host was Meg the Stallion. She was fantastic. She is awesome, and I love that she had been following along so much. Like, you can tell that she really is, and she posted a TikTok last night, I guess it was, with her reaction to what happened after the voting. So she is locked in.

And I guarantee you with that? Yeah, she was on our team. But there are a lot of, whether it's, you know, a musical artist, an actor, other reality stars, there's a lot of people that are really locked in. And it's awesome. A musical guest. Sorry. It's been a long weekend. Jesus Christ.

Oh, God, you're going to get me with that all the time. My brain's not really working right now. But I just love the energy, the energy coming in and knowing what's going on. And she also didn't like dig too deep into like the hood of stuff, which was obviously the biggest focus point for pretty much the entire first part of the season. So she didn't really like rag on her, which was great to give her some advice here and there. But you can tell she genuinely loves the show and is so happy to be there. It was just such a cool little situation when she popped up.

Everybody's really excited and she's excited to see these people who she didn't know like a week ago, which is awesome. And she's a superstar, right? So, like, see her come on there and be wowed at like, oh, my God, this is Sierra's seat. It's like, that's pretty cool. And on top of that, she's a great host. She's a really good host. Like, I thought she did a really good job with that whole thing. Wait, they also did confirm once again, which they did this last year, too.

During those challenges, there is no music. We hear the music, but they keep it quiet so that they can pick up the audio from the people. So they are, they are torquing, they are dancing to nothing except for when Meg was blaring the horn. Nah, I swear to God. That's not true. They have to do it so that they can pick up everybody's voices on their microphones. Otherwise, it would be too grainy. That's ludicrous.

What do you mean? Well, actually, if nothing, I give them more props for being able to do anything with no music. That's wildly more impressive. What I mean is every time that you see. see a challenge that there's music and they're dancing, you're going to have a good laugh to yourself imagining them doing all of this with no music. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. But I need to ask you something. Go ahead. In a place I didn't think I would be. Oh. How do you feel about Huda in these these three episodes? Um, she's cooked. She should go. I'm done with her. Sure. Yes, agreed. I just think

the dynamics are too wacky, but I found myself feeling bad. I feel bad for her. No, I felt bad for Jeremiah. I feel terrible for him, but I also feel bad for Huda. I don't feel bad for Huda because it's not like she's doing like the funny type of like pettiness, like when it comes to talking to Pepe, when it comes to then talking to Hannah afterwards, she's not doing or like moving in a way that is really good for the house. You can tell that like I think truly and especially after last night, she's empowered now.

She feels like America loves her. Well, I don't know what the fuck happened. that that seemed like such a layup to me this was the problem and this is why i was so pissed off and this happened on saturday i was having such a great day but then i saw what the vote was and i'm like oh cool this is a good opportunity to get someone out who really has nothing and you know on the girl's side i i would imagine it would have been like iris i didn't really see like anybody else like amaya you leave her alone she is she has done such a fantastic 180 to just god she's so funny honestly she gets most improved of the entire season but like she's funny and then she also is truly deserving of love she just seems so nice and i feel so bad for what she went through with ace now yeah i mean now that we like know her a little bit better we'll get to that um we talk about her yeah dumb dumb dumb her and dumb dumb yeah dumb should have been on the chopping block speaking of but um dumb dumb dumb needs to go um although he's gonna be funny as hell and casa more but saturday afternoon i'm looking and i'm like what is going on why

are we doing this everybody started treating it like last week's vote where it was really funny to break her and jeremiah up because it made a lot of sense but it also made a lot of sense for the show so yes two birds one stone incredibly funny to watch the crash out also better for the show because this is really killing it when it came to be what we were doing on friday night the fact that huda was now all the people on instagram all the people on twitter were talking about voting her as the number one girl in the group was insane to me joke don't make a joke don't They're making that part a joke, which is insane, because this is exactly what's going to happen. Now that those votes came out, she now thinks that America loves her and they hated Jeremiah.

So now she's going to be even more empowered, which is not going to be great. And by the way, all these bombshells and Casa and more people watched the show. They are, if you want to look at TJ's conversation, they are steering so far clear of her. She's not going to be a factor. I know. And that's the thing with her. Put everything else aside, like how you're. personally feel about it the people in the house like the dudes in the house are not going to associate

and like at that point you don't need her there anymore it's just taking away from the show yeah exactly so i'm i'm with you there as far as like the joke vote this is the same thing as why you don't ask america to name things like bodey mcote face and like we can't take anything seriously and if i mean clearly with the current state that we're in but the one thing we do really get from this episode in 15 was the arrival of two new bombshells with tj and and drina and uh i like i don't know i don't love t j but i just think he's kind of planned yeah just like very vanilla i think andrina is a great addition as a bombshell he's a very good bombshell because she's gonna fuck everything else the girls the girl bombshells they're all great they all have

like differing personalities they're all beautiful when we get a guy like tj's better looking than i'm not going to go back to jalen but he's got you know he's over a million followers now on tic so we can point about all these duds man i we get so many duds for dudes and i hate it and i feel like andrida is a really really good bombshell but you have to deliver the same on the other side you can't just throw a dud in there that's not really going to work um my favorite part of the entire build, what are we calling it? Build a bombshell, build a bombshell workshop. I don't know if you caught this, but at the end of it, when the girls finally built

TJ and TJ walks in, Amaya goes, we build you. She's great. She's great. She's the best. She is the best. This is actually a really good representation of how much they've been missing on the male bombshells. Because with Andrina coming.

in every dude there forgets about their partner they're like yep i'm in like they're all making jokes nicks making jokes everyone that's in a quote unquote close relationship they don't care anymore they just want to go and get to know her we don't we haven't had that happen with one male bombshell yet like tj they're all like oh yeah he's hot he's this he's that he's whatever but even then it's not like that jaw dropping moment of like fuck everybody else like that's my guy and we need that and there's no way that out of pick of all these people that want to sign up for this show that you don't have some smoking hot dudes so like why do we have the B team what's going on I just don't know what the hell is going on and I feel like this is

still you know we're in week three at this point there's still so much more to go everybody seems so closed off and there's like one or two floating around I still I don't trust A's and Shelly at all no I'm going to get into that coming out Yeah, we're going to all the stuff that keeps coming up now. Fuck it, do it now. Let's break that whole thing down. Well, naturally in America, there's a ton of misinformation floating around. So now once people start to see like, oh, whoa, people are talking about Ace and Shelley,

I'm going to concoct a crazy story. The first story that came up about Ace and Shelley was that they're actually in a deeply committed relationship and they thought this was a good opportunity for them to both get their platforms off the ground. I think she wants to start modeling and he wants to start being a reality TV star and being a dancer or whatever. I don't know, maybe he can on dancing with the star. it makes a lot of sense, whatever it might be, that they're actually in a committed

relationship and they decided to do this for their own personal brand and they were just going to go through with that. And we did see the video, well, we did see the video where he said wish Shelly a happy Valentine's Day back in February, which is what we talked about last week. Between that and that, now people started taking it a step further. Then they were saying, what's actually going on is that Ace and Shelley are in a relationship, but what they're doing is they're going to set it up so that Ace can have. have a falling out with Shelly and return back to Amaya and it's going to be the biggest

enemies to lovers thing ever and they're going to win. And I'm like, now we're going too far off the cuff. And I saw at one point that A's and Shelley were married and there's a whole fucking thing out there. It just, it gets so saturated with fake ass like details that you don't know what's going on anymore. But something stinks when it comes to me with that. I agree with that.

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and if they have, I don't think it's been more than once or twice. I do firmly believe that. But I do think that they have harbored some kind of relationship virtually. And I think that it's gotten to the point where maybe, you know, there's a little sexting going on. I don't know. But they've definitely gotten intimate via Instagram. Okay. So I do think that on some level, they concocted a plan.

And I don't even think it's like them putting their heads together going, hey, this is what we're going to do. But I do think that it was some unspoken agreement that they're going to go on the show. They're going to play the game. and that at some point they're going to come together. And because of their chemistry, they already have, they're going to end up being everybody's favorite couple. Now, Austin plays such a big role and adds to my theory because anybody watching the show can tell you that they had no chemistry that

entire time. But when she would go to a confessional, I would always scratch my head because she's like, you know, I'm really liking getting to know Austin. I really think he's a great guy. I think there might be something there. I want to explore this. Meanwhile, we're watching and going, there's nothing here there's no chemistry at all it would be gross at this point i don't want to see

you guys make out because it's so platonic so fast forward and everything goes the way it goes now those two are together austin was a scapegoat or unescapegoat as we like to say around here and they tried to play this whole thing perfectly the problem is you have to have contingency plans in reality tv because we're going to dig people are going to dig and they're going to find you saying wish shelly a happy birthday so i think they had some unspoken agreement i'm sure they talked about the show a little bit coming into this but it was more so we're going to end up together we just got to do it the right way and that goes to ace because now ace is the guy that's running around saying scammer scammer scammer about jeremiah because he jumped into heavy too early so he it's like that person that

that speaks up too much about something right like they're so adamant about some topic and then it out that they're the worst perpetrator of that thing. That was the ace effect. So between Ace, Shelley, and Austin, bang, that was their plan. And now it's coming out. And now the biggest issue is Ace is fucking with the rest of

the show, because he's got all these dudes following him around like little puppy dogs. So that's my theory. I think I got it right, honestly. I think there's got to be something in there, too. And I don't know what the rules entail when it comes to being selected for Love Island. I don't think you can share that you were selected. So they may

have maybe not known they would have probably known that they were interviewing for it though they could have gotten that far and they could have said hey wow you're interviewing too that sounds so cool what if we both got picked how great would that be maybe we can do this whatever happened to just filing on the uh the missed connections part of a newspaper or craigslist you know what i mean just throw it out there go go meet up somewhere i don't know craigslist still exist this is a strange turn we've taken go on uh yeah this connection saw you out front of a bar have your instagram maybe we can meet up somewhere in fiji i don't know um that's what happened the i mean the biggest problem and this is this is the biggest problem of like what happened

in these three episodes i am i really loved the way that ace was moving while jeremiah and hood over together once they broke up he needs to take a step back if he doesn't take a step back it just shows that he either a hates jeremiah or b which is what i think he's incredibly jealous to jeremiah that's the one that's the one he's incredibly jealous to jeremiah because every time that Jeremiah does something he doesn't have to work for a connection he's now at this point almost on connection number three him and iris started hitting it off but as soon as andrina goes in there he starts moving towards her and she's accepting of it she didn't do anything with ace iris and ace they were something at some point even though i still feel like that was kind of fake

that was just a one combo i feel like that was the whole like reaction to that where he's like damn like what's going on i didn't expect this it's like i don't believe you i just don't believe that either But if you're going to throwing things out there to try to throw you off the track. All right. So if you're going to stand up on your soapbox so that you can, you know, see eye level with everybody else that's there and start preaching about this connection bullshit where you're talking about. And at the time it made sense, but you're talking about Jeremiah only going for one connection. You're not branching out. You're so closed off to everybody else since day one.

Who else is incredibly closed off to everybody else? Ailer. Your boy. Ace. Ace, you're closed off with Sheld like because that's the other thing. No, I know, but Taylor, Taylor is truly, I have not seen him talk to another girls. He's barely, he's barely even trying to connect with Landrya, to be honest. But when it comes to everybody else in the villa, he's not even having a conversation with them.

He's being like the, you want to call the mom and dad, the very platonic mom and dad talking to the rest of the villa about what's going on everywhere else. I know, I can't help myself. But Taylor's doing that. Nick, I'll give you Nick, because he seems to have big eyes for any new hoties. walks in the villa fine great austin big dumb dumb pepe just got there we don't know what to think of him i like i like pepe's going to be fine though because he didn't even see him that broken up at the end of sunday um but when it comes to ace you've been doing all of this shit for one person you faked you got yelissa so you like you get an extra couple of days there because you know your connection was

stolen from the villa in the middle of the night you woke up a little delirious you didn't know what was going on. We'll give you a couple of days to assimilate into the rest of the group. Fine. You pick Amaya and immediately just start turning on her and staying away from her and then sleeping in soul ties by yourself. Wait, that's a great point because you didn't even attempt to have a connection with Amaya. He tried to have a disconnection with her. You worked really hard at disconnecting from her while connecting with Shelly, who you've been connecting with since day one, who you told us that you knew already. So where have you branched out, buddy? Nowhere. So this whole bullshit about I just see

another guy who's just doing the same thing, fall it into the same cycle. He's going to be with Andrina the entire time, and I just can't have that. You're going to be with Shelley the whole time? You think we're going to vote for you now? When we get the opportunity, and I know this for a fact, if America gets the opportunity

to just straight up vote a guy off, Ace is gone. He's going to be gone. And if it happens this week, he's screwed because it'll be like 98% of the vote. And that's, that that would be a good course correct because we have to stop leaving the votes to these idiots they don't know what the hell they're doing no i completely agree and i think with the whole ace thing and like our case against ace if you will i will

there's too many things that don't make a lot of sense and like i'd be fine i don't mind having the villain role on any show in reality tv you know that but when you're now affecting who remains that's a problem that's a big problem and that's exactly what he's doing and this it reeks of jealousy, dude. It leaks of jealousy because I also think that Ace was interested in Huda early on and he locked her down like that. Iris comes in.

She has eyes for Jeremiah, like you said. And then Andrina comes in, Jeremiah. Objectively speaking, Jeremiah is a gorgeous man. I think he's the best looking dude at the villa. Yeah, he's one of the best looking dudes I think I've ever seen if we're being honest here. Well, let's be clear.

Yeah. I want to be very clear here. So, yeah, I think that, A lot of these dudes are jealous of him. And I think that when you have somebody on the other side of it, like an ace, vocalizing that and the other guys hear it and they go, oh, he feels that way too. It's like, oh, yeah, you know what? Fuck this guy. And it's like, no.

I think that rings true for Taylor. I think Nick has ulterior motives. But we'll talk about that with us shady on Nick. Yeah, there's something going on there. We'll talk about that when it comes to the vote. But I mean, that's, I'm glad that we're both on the same side, but it comes to ace. Yeah. Again, I really liked it because it was funny at the time.

But once Jeremiah and Huda were done, there was no reason to continue to go out. Leave Jeremiah alone. Yeah. And that switchup was crazy. And I know we talked about it last week. But when he goes on a date with Iris and he's talking about how nice it was to, like, move on, you can't then tell the guy, hey, you got to go check on your ex. That shit was just work to. Nick, too.

You guys just worked so hard to get the two of them separated and now you're making them feel bad. Like, I feel bad for Jeremiah. I really felt bad for Jeremiah. Because at some point, you know, aside from Austin, who might be in love with him, who can blame him, you're going to be sitting there by yourself. None of these guys like you. You don't really have friends in the villa. Every move that you do is wrong in their eyes. It's got to be exhausting.

So if somebody, and, you know, spoiler alert, if somebody were to come back to the villa, I would love it to be Jeremiah because he can move so much better. And he would be like a return villain arc. And that would be awesome. I think he deserves that chance. You know, I agree, like how he handled the hook. the thing wasn't great, and I don't think that, you know, she was the only one to blame that whole situation despite catching the vast majority of the flack. But I also think that you could argue Jeremiah got bullied out of the villa.

But let's, uh, let's talk about the what's your beef challenge. Let's get through this one. Who the fuck? Who on earth was like, let's do a whole thing around milk in 98 degree Fiji? That'd be sick. Like, there's no way that that's. milk was refrigerated above coming from the utter and we know how long these challenges take thanks page they take about four or five hours because you're out there in the grueling fiji sunlight

with milk all over your bodies and they don't even let you go shower as soon as you get home that's crazy everybody got to do your confessional first oh not only that they have to hang out and like decompress and talk about it they're sitting all over the furniture covered in stinky as hot milk it was the grossest thing i've ever seen i think maybe there's i guess there's probably really only like one big thing to talk about from this right sierra uh-huh yeah oh because i mean we did miss two uh we we missed two uh nighttime activities the pepe talk and hudda pepe and hannah no oh no no uh in the beds pepe and hana boinked last week and that That was, I couldn't believe they showed that shit.

I was like, I literally turned it down and go, did she just spit it in her hand? Sure did. And this is, you know, a day or two after the love of her life, Charlie just left. So it's like, oh, jeez, it didn't take long to get over that one, I don't? So, yeah, so they boinked. Nothing really came of that, though. It just seems like once again. And maybe this is a Hannah thing.

When she was with Charlie and when she was with Pepe, we didn't see a whole lot from them, unless like other people were interacting with them yeah they just seemed happy kind of do their thing it was just fine they were doing their own thing the one thing i'll say on the pepe front and i get plays in more later when you said you didn't seem all that broken up we did get that i don't know if it was a conversation or a confessional where he's like yeah you know she's kind of a lot he doesn't say it that way but he's like i don't usually go for somebody like that she is bringing out this fun side of me but i didn't take away from that that he was like all in i took away from that that he was kind of like, you know, I'm not 100% sure on this one because she seems like a lot.

Yeah, and that's how they should be. And I wouldn't be surprised, honestly, if they moved Casa or up a few days or weeks even to try to correct the ship a little bit. Because Jesus, like, it's boring. Like, I'm sorry, but like, now that Hurricane Hood is gone. I know, but like, it's stale compared to where we should be. We should be seeing chaos at this point because people shouldn't be this closed off. Yeah, you're going to have like one or two couples that just seem like.

they're in a great place or they're in an incredibly toxic place fine but everybody shouldn't be coupled up it was the fun of that like it's just end the show at that point bringing new people but the other nighttime activity was nick and sierra boinking and 30 magical seconds 30 25 he said originally and then it inflated a little bit so he's lying no he's lying wow lying about 25 seconds what was it actually 15 yeah we have we have five you're five You know, you do fiver, loser. Two pump chump. Yeah, like a one pump jump.

But yeah, so in the middle of the What's Your Beef, disgusting, gross milk challenge, you can see things are changing a little bit. And Ace had a good point on this when he's talking to Nick. When you have sex, obviously things change. Emotions are going to change. Nick is an idiot, to say the least. He's not the brightest. He's not the brightest. And I do really think that Nick.

and Sierra because of what we've seen from them so far. They don't really seem to be like getting their feelings hurt too often. They take advantage of the challenges. They're very good sports in the challenges. We've seen both of them get pulled by different bombshells. They have very cordial conversations. I would say Nick's lean towards flirting. Sierra leaned towards, I'm kind of like, I'm good with Nick, but I'm still open.

So it's pretty apparent to me that they've probably had conversations about this. Like, hey, let's have fun of the challenges. We're not going to be too upset about things that happen. And at the end of the day, we'll get pulled here and there, and everything's going to be fine. And as long as we choose to come back to each other, that's great. That's the vibe that I got. Once you have sex, all of that changes, at least for Sierra, maybe not Nick, because he's an idiot.

I don't think it changed for Nick, but. Yeah, this challenge was over the top a little bit. I don't think that Sierra was wrong to be a little weird. No, not at all. No, not at all. He was a little more active than he had been in last challenges. and this wasn't just because, you know, our senses were heightened and we were focusing on it. He was going after everybody.

He was, it was the milk. Yeah, he was, yeah, God. I don't know how the fuck he was drinking. I kind of remind you every time. Yeah, I know. But like, then he's drinking the milk. Like, what's going on here? Oh, by the way, when they're dumping the milk on people, it looks so watery to, like, what's going on?

I mean, I hope they watered it down. Maybe it wasn't actually milk. It was absolutely milk with the way they described it afterwards. Everyone was grossed out. Hannah was gagging. Like, I don't want to, I, we don't have to dive too far into, like, like the milk part of it we've done enough but i think with the sierra nick thing i agree she i'm on her team i think that once you point especially given their trajectory i think that adds

to it too because it wasn't like you know just this fiery hot i mean they were obviously super attracted to one another like the sexual attention was legit but it's not like they just jumped on each other and point and then kept doing other things it's like they've specifically been saving that for some time frame right so then it happens like very organically where they're just like smooching fooling around and then it's like oh we're doing it so i think that that adds to it too because you could argue that that's not boinking that's that's more on the the side of making love kind of deal so i think that that adds a lot of emotion to it so what i see when we get this challenge sierra's a good sport for a while and

I think her intentions are very clear. Like she wants to get further into this thing with Nick. And I think on the flip side, you might have seen a little bit of a panic throttle from Nick, where he was like, oh, fuck, like it's getting serious. That was a big decision.

We point like she's obviously going to have different emotions. Now I have different emotions now. Maybe he's scared of the emotions. So he leans harder into the challenge on top of that. He's very attracted to Andrina. She's attracted to him, Neek, as they say.

Nicholas, I think the big difference that you saw was like, we've seen a lot of challenges now. And we've seen a lot of, like, boisterous making out and that. But it's more on the like, hey, it's a challenge. Just leaned into this. This was very ass grabby. This was very sexual. And it's funny to say, like, when people have their tongues all the way down each other's throats, that it's not overly sexual.

But, you know, it just has a different feel to it. This felt like he was really trying to, like, make. impression yeah yeah it seems i don't want to say that it seems like he got scared after they had sex and he's like shit am i like getting towards closed off like is this the best opportunity that i have to like have fun like it didn't really seem like that but it just seemed like he did go a little bit further than he needed to at least i agree you know just remember the girl that you just had sex with is in the crowd and she's been extremely cool about all this and you've been really cool about a lot of it for the whole part.

But this was, this was a big mistake, I think, on his part. I think he made a, yeah, I think he whiffed on this one. And I think he made a harder. Well, the other harder part is, you know, they obviously talk about it later. And I think that she obviously felt some type of way. But at the same time, she takes it for what it is. It's a challenge. We need to talk about it.

I don't want to overreact to anything. She gave them the opportunity to be like, hey, I'm still. all about you and he kind of faltered he kind of went the other way more like you know we're open right like this is what we came on the show for like i'm not going to lie like i'm attracted on drina and like this and that i was like oh man like that's yeah he he fumbled through that and i think sierra kind of handled it pretty well but you can tell that like she was kind of in her head about the whole thing and like i during that conversation i did understand where nick was coming from and this is kind of like when i created my hypothesis that they had talked a lot about this

and how they're going to handle these types of things. I don't think it was unfair of Nick to say things. Like, you know, obviously I'm attracted to Andreina, but like you have to also say I'm super attracted to you. And obviously, like, you're my number one. I'm in with you. We're not fully closed off. You know, we'll have a further conversation if you want to.

But, you know, it takes some accountability like a little bit. And he was afraid to take any accountability because then it becomes a slippery slope. And then all of a sudden you are in like a Jeremiah Hoda situation and you don't want to be there, especially after what you just watched last week. So I don't know. I don't really think there was, you know, based on his actions. I don't really think there was a right answer because you could find yourself, you know, professing your love to Sierra in a way.

And then things could get a lot worse. So I do think, if you think about it, he's still in a pretty good position and he gave her, you know, a little bit of space and then they're fine the next day. I don't know. I don't think they're fine. But here's what it does is I think Sierra is probably closer. of closing off, obviously, because she says as much. But I think what you just did was open that door again. And I think that when she, like, she and TJ hit it off somewhat, I think when they're

having more conversations or, you know, make out in the speak easy one night, he's going to have that, oh, shit moment where he's like, whoa, whoa, like, I didn't want that to happen. Like, he has, he gets irritated by TJ bringing her coffee or tea or whatever, but at the same same time like we're first time it's funny second time was too much second time's too much like where's that energy in the conversation with sierra that's what i want to know because that's a good question yeah that's kind of how i how wow how i saw it but um we need to talk before we go any further about fan favor to mya and uh dumb dumb mac austin because i agree i think she got shafted with Ace. I think that that was part of Ace's master plan to disassociate with anybody not named

Shelly. And I think she caught the brunt of that whole thing. Did she come on strong? Yeah, absolutely. But she also made it very clear. This is who I am. This is who I'm always going to be. And I'm doing my thing. Fuck, anyone that doesn't want to. Now, we said Austin and her are, you know, what do you call it? The best option. Yes, they make the most sense because on the flip side, nobody's going to go for Austin like I just don't see it and I don't know if there's somebody in Costa more that fits better but like

he has the charisma of a milk dud like the dude is why you have to come back to milk blah maybe it's just in my brain now and I was also trying to

milk on the brain dude I can't get it out of my head and not in a good way but like I guess what's the good way well I didn't know I didn't know if maybe it came off as like I can't get out of my head.

Like I'm just thinking about all of them like smooching and rolling around and stuff. I wanted to make it clear like, no, I'm thinking about it because the milk grossed me out. I was trying to differentiate. Some people don't think I'm gross. Yeah, it's so good when I get milk out of my head. Oh, yeah. No, but like. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure.

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so your business can stay unfazed. Learn more at sap.com slash uncertainty. I do feel bad for Amaya. You're right. She was extremely upfront about her personality, and she does come on strong. And we saw her get her shine back, but she came on extremely strong once again.

And we thought, you know, maybe Austin can handle it. And he can't. I figured that's what he wanted. I figured he did too, but I don't think it is. I think it's a lot. And she is a lot.

Like even from third party watching it, It is extremely strong early on for her to be doing all that stuff. And she's doing the same shit that she was doing to Ace and Austin's handling a little bit better, obviously. But unfortunately for Amaya and as much as I like her, unless there's somebody perfect for her on the show, it's just not going to work. Dudes in this show are not going to react well to doing that. They're going to be looking around while she's talking to her about like her life and going on some crazy tangent and calling them babe the whole time because she has this mentality of like, we are so strong and it's like a day in and it's like okay and i know and like you do need and i love her but like you you got to relax a little bit or you're not going to have a good shot at

staying for a long time you're just going to kind of keep going around uh around the carousel until somebody eventually can just like be okay with it and it's cool with your personality i don't think any guy currently on this show is maybe somebody in casa more is maybe there's a bit of a shake-up austin can come back with somebody or i guess the girls are going so The girls will have to be the ones to come back. But it's just going to be interesting to watch. And again, I really like her. It's just her personality doesn't really work super well for this show, unfortunately.

No, because it also, what it does when you get into that mode, I'm not defending Austin. I think he needs to be off the show at this juncture. I don't know why he's still here. And I will be furious if Amaya gets kicked off of this show. I'm a big Amaya fan. I want that to be very clear. Yeah. But because she wants.

that lightning in a bottle like hit it off so hard that we're just all over each other and only about each other it's like well that in turn is going to close you off to other people in the villa yes because with like we haven't really seen her talk to anybody else you know we saw her talk to ace got shut down but during the ace fallout she only talked to austin really she wasn't she's not charlie well i mean god that was brutal but and she just showed what a great person she is by being like i'm not going to fuck my girl over like that Charlie said it just it's hard for me to see a route in unless she meets some dude in Costa more that's like all about it and like then maybe we'll eat our words because

I want her to find love I really do now now that I'm thinking about it like in a scenario in which somebody matches her energy even if it's like just to match it not necessarily how you feel like you said everybody's going to view that as oh wow look at that they're so happy they're so boisterous they're really getting along with each other what's the point in that's trying to break them up not that you know again any girl's going to come into the villa and be like oh austin's my number one like we haven't seen that yet but at the same time if you are a dude that's like flirting with amaya maybe coupling up whatever it might be and you start doing what she's doing everybody's going to stay like completely stay away from that like oh you guys

look so happy you guys look so great you know it just isn't going to work out so it's such up that dynamic yeah it's it's definitely a little weird um and then the other coupling going on if you will there's a little bit of smooching going on all around the villa between iris and tj which you know she're both pretty boring they're both so fucking they're both they're both boring um i'm sorry but they are really i like iris i think it's i do i get what you're saying i get what She's a product of the environment or like a product of, you know, what she's gone through in her very early days in the villa. She just seems boring.

TJ definitely is boring to me. He's vanilla paste. He's just blah. But the big bomb is Jeremiah and Andrina because they are actually hitting it off. This is real. This isn't some weird like producer situation where they're pushing her to go after Jeremiah to see what happens or anything like that. she is genuinely interested in him and he is genuinely happy and actually happy he seems so much lighter it was a bridge relationship with iris he got to the other side both him and iris knew

what was going on they don't feel any type of way about it right and i like i really like that conversation was funny but it was really funny because jeremiah called her a freaky frog where that come from that was pull that one out i will say i don't know what generation i get confused about like gen z are they gen z most of them are yeah they're on their early i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna date myself here but like the vocabulary is wild type shit like everything's type shit i'm like bruh like what like yeah type shit type shit i'm like that you're not saying anything what the fuck are you talking about it's type shit is just the confirmation like i understand what it means thank you know what type shit is type shit is that part yeah

type shit yeah so you can kind of trace it through through the vibes i understand i'm just saying it's like listening to listening to these conversations i'm cool i'm hip listening to these conversations it's just funny to me because like the stuff they're saying is just it's fucking funny like yeah yeah type shit or like i'm on that yeah type shit and they all say it everybody so like it's just funny and it's you know you see that difference in in generations and i'm we're getting to that age now So it's like, oh, these wacky kids in their words. It was an incredibly depressing tangent. Yeah, you like that.

We're getting so fucking old. Yeah. We're to die any day now. Yeah, that shit, that's shit. But, yeah, I mean, I did like that conversation that they had because it showed that they both were supportive of each other. Like, hey, we were forced to be together. And then we were, you know, we weren't forced to be together in the Door Challenge.

But it was the best opportunity for both of us. us to move forward and try to get past everything. So solid during that whole thing. You got to get credit for that. She was great during all of that. She was a great sport. And it finally got to a point where like we weren't focusing in on Huda doing all of these things.

And obviously, you know, editing makes it look like Huda is always staring at Jeremiah. But there's multiple points where you can see when they flip to a different camera. She's not even in the room. Like when he comes and delivers Iris and Andrea breakfast, they make Huda look like all jealous and like weird looking at Jeremiah. Then they'll flip to a different camera and Huda's not even a room. the room. So it's like, okay. For the record. For the record. Yeah, kind of, but you know that those looks are being done when she's not on camera. Like, there's no way she's not staring at them

throughout the day every day. Who the fuck knows? She could be doing this. She might be making dirty looks at Hannah at this point because she wants Pepe. Oh, that whole thing's wild. That was weird. Yeah, she could be making dirty looks at Iris again because she wants T.J. Like, I don't know what the hell's going on with her. I don't know. Yeah. The whole thing with her, man, I don't know, dude and that's where it comes down to like she just needs to she fucked up she's got to go yeah she fucked up her gameplay was bad and now she's a pariah and like you know tj and that's the other part too is like unless we get an influx of like four dudes and maybe her destiny lies in casso more i don't know but unless you get multiple men coming in at one time she's not going to

have a shot because like if it's a one-off the guy's going to be like i saw you your shit with Jeremiah like I'm not getting involved I don't think they can say that verbatim but like but yeah I mean that is what they're thinking that's what Tj said that's what Tj said that is what he sat down to talk yes that's exactly what he said and I think what we're going to get from Huda whether it's Kasa or whether it's a new bombshell it's more of the same it just is it's going to be cringy it's going to get really really exhausting very fast and we are going to get so sick of it and not in a good way it's not like we're going to be looking at it like I feel so bad

for hood it like i might start feeling bad for her but i'm going to be so tired of watching i do i do i do i don't really i just can't help it i don't know why like i just see she stopped calling everybody bitch i'd feel better about she stopped calling people a bitch and like you know and maybe she's just trying to hype herself up because she's down in the dumps but every conversation she has she just like talks about how into her the guys are and like they were moaning did you hear that and like I can tell and it's like and when her and TJ have that conversation she's like oh I'm just used to guys like being obsessed with me I'm like don't say that to people that's a weird thing it's such a turnoff or like I don't know she just she's going to do it again

like you the guys are worried that Jeremiah is going to do it again it's not Jeremiah like yeah it seems like he has a great connection with Andrina but is he going to be able to explore that why why do they think that it's Jeremiah who is the reason that they think that about yeah because when like him and and dreen are on the couch together that's the thing that he's putting in their ear i know it's because he's jealous and he's sitting there putting in their ear he's doing the same shit you do with huda it's like this is night and day from huda do i agree that he's jumping all in yeah but let's think about what's going on in the villa right now he explored iris iris explored him they both were like hey we're best buds this isn't it they agreed they moved on what's he going to go to elandria now or shelly like what do you who do you want him to focus on you run the full gauntlet and then you're going to be okay with it like no it that's not how it works and he again has now this is pretty much his third coupling because if we got to a point of a recouple they're probably going to be together he's slept in bed with two women you've slept in bed with no women now you've got

shelly but you removed yourself from the room when you had a Maya and you didn't even have a woman to start off because elissa got kicked off so what are we doing it just doesn't make any sense and from nick's point of view i think nick's fucking jealous i don't think it's necessarily what's pretty much what ace is saying but it's you know it's a vehicle to get to the same place i think that nick wanted a shot with andrina i think that ace wanted a shot with hendrina if we're not supposed to believe the shelly conspiracy theories and when she didn't turn their way when she moved on and she started going after jeremiah and was comfortable to make out with them in front of everybody in the villa and hood is applauding it which is wild now you guys are all like so

fucking butt hurt about it. That's what that doesn't do any favors either. It's like, don't do that. Yeah. No, I agree. It was okay because like even Alandria like started clapping and like

they made it funny and she didn't have any like weird extra comments. Because Alandria saved her by clapping along. Thank God for Alangria. She's she's by far my favorite. No, and Taylor are the best together. Best. No,

I said Landry is my favorite. Um, best. Did you see whoever's running? I know you probably haven't seen this because you like actively avoid it. But Alandria, whoever's running her account, one of her friends, I think it is, put up, like, a picture of her and Taylor and said, I know my girl's going to win this either with Taylor or whoever she ends up with. It's like, okay, everybody's focusing on that last part. Yeah.

Look, we will come back to it. It's a long season. We're only like, what, a quarter of the way through maybe? It's tough to say. Yeah, we got a lot of game left. All right, a lot of game left. But I have high hopes for those two. you guys are going to see him, be like, wow, steel was right.

Steele was right. Well, let's get into the vote because, you know, I didn't have a hand in this one. So nobody can blame me. I didn't even text me and tell me to, you are in charge of doing that. So I know when I'm supposed to vote on things. And you didn't do it. It was so hot in Nashville and I was quite drunk on Friday night. I didn't realize it.

But I did get the notification that said voting begins now. And I did see it and I got upset. But I didn't want to look at it because I thought it was going to be. a spoiler for some reason i don't know who's to say what i was thinking of the time but let's just get into the vote we'll get into what happens it was it felt weird the whole thing felt weird we don't get ariana we don't get like any special guests to come out and do this everything's left in their hands everything is conveyed via text yeah all the girls have to stand up one by one you sit down if you know in no particular order this is who america does like here's the bottom

three. So we're sitting there. We get through everything. We get to Hannah, Amaya, and IRIS, and Iris, standing up there by themselves. Everybody else goes sit down with your couple. Same thing for the guys. We're going to do the same thing. And we're sitting there with Austin, Jeremiah, and Pepe. It's so clear who needs to leave in that group of three dudes. It's so fucking clear. Even if Pepe went home, I probably would have been like, oh, that's kind of a weird choice, but like I get it. If Austin went home, that is the right choice. That's the correct choice. This was where the spoiler began for me because I was on Twitter last night.

I was watching, which was brutal too because I was watching the NBA finals. And Tyrese Halliburton goes down with a ruptured Achilles in like the first like two minutes of the game. Like, well, this game's probably over. Within an hour, within an hour, I get a fucking update that says that Jeremiah has left the villa. I lost Jeremiah and Tyrese Halliburton on the same night. I was upset. It's a tough night. yeah so an america did not have a hand in voting who goes home the islanders

tyrese halliburton achilles they didn't vote but yeah so the islanders get to vote the girl vote did not make any sense i don't know what this was and by the way we don't even get the conversations that they had leading up to it which i think they're going to save for movie night i think we're going to be able to see that and i've got a theory that builds into my next theory. I don't know what movie night it is, but I'm stoked for it now. Oh, yeah. So there's two things that you need.

Now we've got Casa more coming up. We've got a tweet night at some point, too. Tweet night will be probably before that adds to my, my hood of theory. I'll get there. Yeah. But yes, we'll have Casa more for the next week or so. And then it'll move into the other events that come to fruition, which movie night will be here's unseen footage or stuff that we've seen, but that the other person in the

couple wasn't aware of or if somebody's talking shit. So it could be, for instance, the details would be like a real girl's girl and it's all about hoda and it's all the stuff that she said to their face and then it'll show what she was talking behind the scenes and then you'll be able to see what she did in both and then it kind of creates a division in the in the group whether it's in the couple or in the group of girls so that's going to be great and i think that they're going to save those discussions for movie night which you know is part of my other theory but we don't get to see the details Hannah going home makes no sense i'm sorry i was so pissed i was so pissed

I was on the plane today watching it. I literally, like, had to bite my tongue. You got some balls to watch that on the plane a second time. I learned how to do it. But then it looks weird, too, I will say. Because I just... Are you turns into the corner? No, because I was in the middle seat.

So if you... Jesus. If you sit up like this, okay? And your knees are close together, and you have your arms on your lap, like so. And you just shove the phone in your crotch. like right up under there and so like your legs and everything hold the phone so it's all the way you have a tray table i do but i can't have this up there you just know you just put it like on the table and do the same thing and put it in between your arms no because then people are still angles

you know and there was a kid sitting behind me poppy sitting next to me she was asleep the whole man she was asleep the entire time if she was awake i wouldn't have watched it right i'm not i'm not a lunatic. But I did learn that. You know, you just kind of put it, I'm doing it right now. You put it right there. Nobody can see it. It just looks like you're staring at your nuts the whole time. Seat. Staring at your seat the whole time.

It works. Oh, God. But like from Hannah's perspective, she went through hell last week. It was sad. It was insane. Yes, within two days, she was spitting in her hand for Pepe. but in the same sense

if all we're doing is the spirit of the game she's playing it fine she said when she came into the villa I'm going to search around see who I connect with connected with Charlie seemed really happy Charlie gets ripped away from her she's crying she has to be with Pepe which seems sad but within a day she's cool

she's happy again let's make her sad again it's like what the fuck it was weird her reaction to it is the right way like she actually said what the fuck is this and then was so standoffish to all the girls who were like it was a really hard decision how like what's going on here like i don't know if it's i think the true spirit of the game is corrupted because i think there are a lot more people than what we thought playing for the money i think they are i don't even think it's money i think it's clout it's money it's clout but like this is what happens and this is the shitstorm you get when you get the villager the villagers the i like calling him that Like Villagers actually makes way more sense, but when you get them voting for people to go out, their agendas are going to pop up, which isn't going to be in line with what America wants, who are watching, who are essentially paying this cash prize because we're watching this so much. We should get what we want, not them, because now they can get out the big threats. You know, if you think that Jeremiah is going to bop around and by the end of this, everybody's going to be like, wow, what a journey he had. We really like him with X.

We really like him with Andrina if they made it that far, whatever it could have been. Then all of a sudden, Ace ain't going to win. Nick ain't going to win, but I'll be damned if I let them do it. If I let them get anywhere close to that 100K, but I'm going to riot. I'll be in Fiji, 24 hours. I mean, you make a good point because when personal agendas, I'm not entirely against some islander votes. I kind of like when the pettiness gets mixed into everything. where, you know, it's a personal decision, not so much a broad decision.

It can, it has to be like a special event, like one night only. They need to vote in fucking private. Like, not too. Like, don't let them team up and don't let them influence. Well, I think it changes votes because you got ACE over there. Like, be, they're like, oh, you're right. Jeremiah does need to leave. Stick them in a booth and make them write it down.

They're not allowed to congregate beforehand and make them vote. Because I think it should be Survivors. same island yeah there you go like it just jades the vote because now you have outside influences affecting decisions yep the only one that like that's the funniest part because i'm sure austin didn't vote for jeremiah but you would think that he's the most influential most likely to be influenced by somebody else he could point him in a direction because he's you know dumb but i i don't like it because of how often we're getting islander votes i don't like it because of exactly what you said we're getting agendas over if you want to say the actual point of the show

is to find love like you're getting away from that point and like in this specific instance because we know that Hannah goes home and Jeremiah goes home yeah I would have understood more I like Iris but I would get if she went home I like a Maya but I would understand if she went home only because of like how she's moving about this whole thing she was all in on ace you wouldn't into it. Then she was all in on Austin and he's not really feeling it. So I would get it from a gameplay standpoint there for both Iris. Iris has been playing the game a little bit more than Amaya. She's warming up to it. Yeah, Amaya is a fan favorite. She's great, especially the 180 she did. And like now that we've had time to think about it and now that

ACE is coming out as, you know, this sneaky scammer, you feel for Amaya. So it's like, I would be okay if she was, I don't want her to leave, ever, but I would understand if she got the boot. Iris, I would understand if she got the boot out of those three, like you said, the one playing the game the most is Hannah. And at the other side of it, Hannah has said when she was in her thing with Charlie, she even said that she's like, you know, I don't know. And she went and smooge Pepe that night, but they were like this. So like, she's not the one.

So I have to call into question. And I think that you've seen this obviously, even on Twitter and shit. Now we've got to start talking producers. And I hate that. I don't want to have to get the production conversation involved. We're doing that on Bravo enough right now where I don't want to have to do it on Love Island, but it's a valid concern. How much are they moving the needle?

You're telling me that fucking Huda was not a bottom three? She should have been. So that's the thing that came out. And this is, again, misinformation all over the place. But there was a final tally. And you could see the different percentages of who got votes. Huda was bottom three in all the screenshots that I saw. See, shenanigans.

I said in the beginning, you got shenanigans to talk about. It should have been Huda, Iris, and Amaya. And look, if you- That makes more sense to me. Any of those three go home, I understand why. I get it. The guys, on the other hand, Taylor was in the bottom three, not Jeremiah.

Absolutely not. So they threw, he got the lowest amount of votes, by the way. Absolutely not. It will not agree with that. And they manipulated a little bit because the questions are, Who's your favorite girl in the villa and who's your least favorite guy in the villa? So they try to do that and like flip it around a little bit. So it's just it doesn't really work.

But also I think it should be up to us to vote. You want to leave it to the islanders to go ahead and like throw three names out there. And if they can come down to it, then have America vote and then we'll find out what happens. Like sure. I would go for that. I would prefer that. That would have made more sense. If we have three people standing there, it's like, all right, out of these three remaining

Islanders, pick who you want to go home. Don't make us riddle it down to three. Throw in a little fucking variable and have three of them be vulnerable. All three are vulnerable and they're currently quote unquote not coupled up. And we'll have

to see how they move over the next episode or two. The next day, so it'll probably be two episodes. And then we get a final vote in there. That would be great because then we get to see how they operate under pressure. They know America's watching them. Are they going to fly out? there are they going to step up like there's so many different things that they can do with it

and i feel like they just they make the wrong decision so far this season which i'm not crazy about but i want to get into some predictions because casa more starts tonight and if you're listening to this two hours so you already know what's going on but the way it works the girls are leaving they're going to casa more all of the girls are leaving all of the girls are leaving okay so they get they will be in casa more with i think it's seven guys and six girls So there's seven guys. It does, yeah. Good job, Seale.

So they're going to go over there. They'll be there for, I don't know, probably about, I think it's a week. So they'll probably like five or six episodes, maybe. The dudes are solo for a week? Nope. Girls go into the house. So the dudes stay there. Girls come into the villa.

Yeah. So they'll each have their opportunity over the next few episodes to make a new connection. They, you know, obviously you say you're coupled up with ex person. but you have an opportunity at the end of Casa Amor to couple up with anybody that you want in the villa currently, so any of the Casa Moore people. So the way it'll play out is when the girls return, the boys will be sitting on the couch either alone,

if they choose to be so, because they still want to be in the same couple, or with a girl if they're choosing from Casa Amor. The girls will return very slowly, as they walk the red carpet, either with a dude or alone. And then you'll be able to see who's got a real connection. So, for instance, we'll use Taylor and Elandria.

Taylor's sitting on the couch by himself. Doesn't want to make a connection. He wants to be with Alandria. Elandria walks in by herself. It's really nice. It's a great time. She walks in with a dude. Oh, boy.

We've got some dramatic music. So I want to ask you, we'll just do the girl's side because I don't know what the fuck the guys are going to do, but the girl's side. Let's go through each one of them and we'll find out who's going to come back alone and who's going to come back with somebody. Now, important to note, Huda is currently single. And Drenna is currently single.

Yes. And I believe everybody else is in a couple. T.J. Andrina, Pepe, Iris, and Huda are solo. Oh, yeah. Iris. I forgot about your mind. Yeah. Yep.

And the couple is Elandrian, Taylor, Shelly, and A. Samaya, and Austin, Sierra, and Nick. So my predictions, one, couldn't be worse timing for Nick to fumble. her headed out now unsure about where they stand I will say this I think so too but I think Nick's gonna couple up

yep same same I think a week with somebody else he's gonna be like oh man oh fuck 80 20 oh shit 40 50 with Shelly and Ace I think that this is the most

crucial week to see how they're moving I think this will really paint a picture of whether or not these two are in cahoots because of how they approach this whole thing now i don't know because what if they couple up it's all part of the plan then they get back together i know i think what ace is going to do ace is going to move very silently through the villa he's not really going to try to make any connections he's going to act like he is but he's not really and he's going to be trying to tell all the other guys that they need to try to make connections and he's going to be trying

to pull the strings that's what i think he's going to do and then it's going to do and then at the end of it he's going to be alone waiting for shelly to come in i think shelly's the real variable there but we haven't seen like i i really like shelly i do too i have no issues there's a person we haven't we haven't seen shit from shelly like i'm not seeing her look for any connections like again if you guys are going to tout this whole go after and play the game the right way like none of you guys are you can't go to jeremiah who is playing the game the right way i know but you could argue and i haven't watched prior seasons but i i have a feeling an inkling that it's supposed to be more chaotic at this point.

This is the most coupled up and closed off that it's ever been this early. Okay. That's what I thought. So with the Shelley and Ace thing, I agree with you about Ace, but I actually have a different take. I think that he's actually going to get involved with somebody quickly. And I think as the week progresses, he's going to pull back towards the end and he's going to be solo on the couch.

But I think he's going to. Oh, good. That makes sense. I think he's going to jump in with. somebody and be hot and heavy for a little bit and then pull back at the end to throw us off the scent more with amaya and austin i imagine both of them are going to couple up with somebody else i see because amaya has now kind of had the blinders pulled back on austin because he's cringing every time that she says babe and all that as far as austin goes i could also see him

wanting to couple up but not having somebody to walk back in with i don't know who is going to couple up with that man other than amaya i truly don't especially when you walk into that house it's like all right here's all these guys with charisma and personality and this is austin the pool noodle like it just doesn't fit man like he's a bad pick for this show i think he's bad casting but yeah who else do we have uh what do you think elandra is going to do oh that's what i wanted to say I think this is the biggest test of my theory. And I think that I think genuinely, if Taylor was able to kick it up a notch and be more attentive,

I'm not blind guys, all right? Like, I'm not an idiot. I'm not watching this going like seeing something you're not. I just, the friendship is so legit and like the way that they converse with each other so legit. That's where I'm like, if they can get over this hump,

then I think there's something really real there. But if Alandria goes to Casamo more and some dude sweeps are off her feet, she's coming back with that guy. Because she's like, this is what I'm missing from Taylor and this is what I have been missing on the flip side. If Taylor meets somebody that he is genuinely out of the gate attracted to, I think that he's going to a couple of somebody else. But I think what this could also do, and this is what I'm going to hold on to because I'm team Taylor for life, I think both of them are. going to be very interested in somebody else but when they get closer to that final decision they're going to make wait but they're missing this they're missing that they're missing this taylor has this taylor has that a landry has this a landry has that they're going to realize

what they have and each other's going to make their bond that much stronger and then we're going to see the fireworks and then they're going to boink and speak easy that's what i think um yeah i think when it comes to the dudes honestly i think nick is an idiot, and he's probably going to do exactly what you said. He's probably going to end up coupling up with somebody and then realizing he made a mistake when Sierra comes back alone. Taylor is going to do whatever Ace tells him to do. That's also a very, very valid point.

If Ace tells him that he needs to explore, he'll explore. If Ace tells him he should couple up with him because him and Al-Andrew don't really have a shot, he will do that. So that's pretty much going to happen there. Shelly is my real wild card. I think everybody's going to have a good time. Hood is going to be insufferable, I believe. It was going to be a lot.

It's impossible for her to go home during this because there's no eliminations, but at least until after they get back. She wouldn't get voted off anyway. Like, I don't know why she is so protected. I agreed. We both agreed. I think America agreed. She couldn't go home after the initial fallout because we needed to see the crash out. Now that we saw it, we've had two opportunities now that make the most sense to send her on her way.

Same with Austin. Like that was the perfect time to get rid of the two duds in the house. it was and then some shenanigans happened and it would have been great and like i think what they're doing right now is and i'm talking about the producers and the show in general and maybe even the islanders they're so focused on making the big splash because of how big the hood stuff was that that's what they're doing like send hannah home everybody's going to freak out send jeremiah home everybody's going to freak out just make the right sometimes you have to make the right call to make the house vibe way better than it has been and if you get

rid of the duds if you get rid of the lowest person on the totem pole we're going to be happy with it yeah we're not going to all be talking about it there's going to be a couple of tweets here and there where it's like well that was underwhelming but at the end of the day we're all going to understand why it happened this is just kind of like bullshit and stupid but it's going to be very interesting this week's going to be very fun for us to cover i believe you know the next our next two episodes will pretty much be casa more i wouldn't yeah i would imagine next sunday night is probably the end of it they'll probably get that edited and time so that Sunday night is like the big reveal that makes sense to me and then Monday night

will probably be the here's who's vulnerable who's going home blah blah blah um so that'll be kind of interesting but uh the way they're doing this season there might be like midweek of Casa Moore the Islanders get to kick somebody out like I don't fucking know yeah I don't think I don't think they can do it during Casa more I might be wrong about that but um I just don't think so like to put it into perspective I don't think it would hit as hard because you'd be getting rid of an Austin or an Amaya or a iris or whatever but the main the main islanders who actually stay there the residents if you will aren't going to be able to see it because the dudes are in a completely different place the girls are in a different place so it just wouldn't hit

as hard um what do you say we get into some of these questionis i'm sure we got a billion not nearly as much as i figured it's too hot people are just dead people's phones are broken because so hot they're getting temperature warnings yeah from Ella Lanny, did they not show them talking through their decisions because it was so ridiculous? That is a possibility. The decision making may be really stupid and make zero sense, and they decided it would be a better buildup if we don't see that. I do think they're holding onto that footage, and there's probably some interesting information. Oh, that's what I, the other part of my theory was that they're going to hold on to Jeremiah and have him return while Andrina is in Casa Amor.

maybe not right away maybe not tonight i'm just saying maybe later in the week he has to come back in have him walk in keep it very close to the chest don't tell anybody the dudes won't even see them and then have andrina walk back on something like with jeremiah whatever it is with jeremiah and watch all those idiots faces drop then we go right to movie night and we're talking about the decision and yeah poor hannah's not going to be there and we get to see them talking shit about jeremiah about Jeremiah and why they're doing it. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I love that

actually. If they do it right, they would do that. If, you know, they don't care about it. Are we going to be allowed to produce a show? I don't know, ma'am. It's got to happen soon. It has to, before we die, we need to produce one season of something.

There you go. From, uh, from Keckles, could it be any more obvious how jealous Ace and Nick are of Jeremiah? No, it's, it's such like little dick energy. it's tough to watch honestly let's see I guess based on the votes on the

app A should have been in the bottom three I don't know that see that's where I don't know if some people were just doctoring screenshots just to put it out there and get yeah which could easily happen I know we use some AI for good why don't we use AI for that like hey no this is wrong just AI can be the security for misinformation

that seems like a bad I don't know that seems like a sky net thing now now they're security and now they take over I was thinking it's like I robot for your own safety stay in your apartment

yeah from Mary had a little are we buying hoodas redemption arc no she's just no she's trying to figure out a way to get people to like her because she realizes how shitty of a season she had

and now she's panicking that she's going to get sent home but now she's going to feel invincible she survived multiple eliminations that make no sense this is a good point and i really agree with this but from k lookerwoods is there any possibility that the casa boys haven't already seen hood has crash out episodes they should be quarantining these dudes and not showing them anything i agree want hooded to try to you know thrive if you

want to keep her around for whatever reason because she's entertaining she can be then this is what you have to do otherwise we're going to get what we saw tonight with tj yeah i agree uh where do that This one, but I just, I had it. It was a good one. Nine innings with Nat, with no strong couples in the villa at the moment. Who do you think will win this season? Right now, if you thought there was a winning couple, who would that be?

Or winning person. God. If you ask me, if you asked me Saturday, I probably would have said Nick and Sierra. After that conversation, maybe not. I think Elandria is going to win with or without Taylor you're right no with or without Taylor

with Taylor that's right she got so many votes for the best person in the villa she's awesome she rocks I don't see that changing and I do think if she comes back from Casa I'm more with a dude and we like the guy

I think that they're just going to skyrocket and they might look if she finds somebody and like they have that not just the friendship that Taylor and her have but also like the sexual tension and all that That, yeah, that would be a rocket ship. Donia for president, as men, how would you tell Sierra to move after that talk with Nick?

I think exactly how she said she's going to. She's going to move carefully and she's opening herself back up. And I think that's a smart move. I don't think that Sierra needs a whole lot of help from people. I think she's got a good head in her shoulders. And like, when she sees a flag, she's like, up, I got to pivot. So I trust that she's going to make the right moves. And I do believe that Nick is going to be standing, for lack of a better term,

with his dick in his hand at the end of this going, wow, I really, really fucked that up. Yeah, definitely. We'll do one more in here. Oh, okay. So there is a lot of conversation about this from Oik underscore TV. Do you think the girls dumped Hannah so that Huda could steal Pepe? No, I hope not. so i don't think huda has that many allies i think a lot of girls in house are just like pity

nice to her almost i don't think she has that much support it's just tough because we don't really understand why they got rid of hannah out of those three it makes no sense so yeah this is when people start to spiral and just start theorizing a lot of different shit that doesn't really make any sense yeah i can't really wrap my head around it if that was a reason for them to get rid of hannah that's so stupid it hannah should not have gone i mean at the end of the day like that simply should not have happened. And I will be pissed about that for a long time. She was great on this show, too, when she was, like, doing things.

You know, I know if she coupled up, she kind of faded back a little bit. But when she was involved, she's great. I agree. The last one I'm going to read just because it is applicable. From Josie Thibbert. Why do people get mad about you guys spoiling things? It's a recap podcast. you guys are great for the life of me i don't know but it has been happening for years this is not

like a new thing like we if we talk about what happened at the end in the beginning of a podcast we get shit for it correct it's so i don't know why but it is what it is and now i do think it's like somewhat of an ongoing bit to which we will lead into yeah i can't wait you know our next episode's going to air thursday so i guarantee you a wednesday night we're going to have questions, and half of those questions are going to be talking about a spoiling stuff. Yeah. Why did you say that Jeremiah got sent home in the first 10 minutes?

It's like, because you're, what the fuck? Because we couldn't wait. Yeah, because we have to talk about it. But, uh, look, obviously there's some frustrations with the show. That should not take away from how great this show is. No, you kidding me? It's still like, it's phenomenal appointment television at this point. Yeah, it's outstanding.

It's the first. show in a long time that I am watching live as much as I possibly can. But yeah, there's some things that need to shift and hopefully maybe this is the perfect time. And I think it is just knowing what I know now about Casa or more. I do believe that this is the perfect time to have it come in, remind some of these people, this is why you're here to explore other connections. And I think it's going to shake things up at the right time.

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