Bros & Shows - Jen Shaht Herself in the Foot- (Jen Shah, RHUGT, Southern Charm)

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

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Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite show from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined, as always, by Shooter Magouter. Shoots, how are we tonight? Doing really well tonight. Really feeling it.

Yeah, I'm really, really viving. And let me tell you why. We went viral on TikTok, not once, not twice, but thrice. Gotta love it. It was, it was, I know we say this every single week and it's going to get old. Yeah, there's always something new every week if you go through this process. Yeah, so I always have to say, like, it was a crazy week because it fucking. was a crazy week like we got like 4,500 followers on TikTok now we have a ton of new listeners so

as usual to our new listeners we are fucking thrilled to have you but if this is your first episode pause it go back to the first episode binge us because we love getting binged love getting binged feels so good to get binged feels great to be binged and then come back later because we don't want you here now we want you here later but back to the main point It was an awesome week to all of our new followers, new listeners. Thank you so much for the support, the comments. It's been so much fun to watch. I think we've been texting nonstop for like five days straight and we don't talk that much.

I mean, we talk a lot, but like... Yeah, I mean, more than like two bros normally do. Yeah. Like we were really going back and forth and that was just the response to you guys. So I loved, loved reading the comments. I thought they were so entertaining and fun. I love getting everybody's insight on everything. Yeah,

I mean, to an extent it was like at certain times, it was like a discussion board. Like there were people bringing up other points that you and I had brought up or maybe we brought it up like later in the episode that wasn't on the clip. And you get like four or five people commenting on that comment and then something else and something else and something else. And it was, which is great.

It was way less about like us. Like look at these two fucking guys talking about bro-brons. It was way more just like a real discussion. I loved it. I love that there was different stances being taken. There was, you know, some constructive arguing. I have to comment on one comment. Okay.

And look, I'm not going to make a habit out of this. All right, I'm not going to dig into the comments very much at all because I know there's going to be some good, there's going to be some bad, and pretty much everything in between. But there was one that really stuck out to me. I'm not going to read the name of the person because I don't want to give them any more airtime. But it was like, don't you guys watch any sports? football, baseball, basketball. I thought it was just really funny

that he itemized the sports too. Here's a couple of options. We don't fucking know what sports are, dude. You don't know sports. These are some. Look, I'm going to clear this shit up right now because this is arguably the reason that we started this show.

For all of you that don't know, I played and coached for the Baltimore Orioles for eight years. Okay? Shooter got his nickname for his ability to shoot a basketball and has also been playing sports and continues to play sports to this day.

Yeah, I mean, it was kind of funny, like, it was a little ironic. Like, I was watching, as most people do in the summer, there's not a lot to watch, watch the Phillies game. I'm watching NBA Summer League. Like, who the fuck watches that? You do? I do.

Because, you know what? I fucking love sports. We love sports. We are die-hard Philly fans, die-hard Sixers fans, die-hard Flyers fans when they're good. And we live and die by the birds, baby.

Absolutely. And we fucking love Bravo. And that is what a brav bro is. Like we're not allowed to watch or venture out of sports. Like I'd be bored. I have to fill my time with other shit. And if you're too tough, if you're so fucking manly that you can't watch Bravo or you think it's embarrassing for other people to watch Bravo, one, you're a moron.

And two, we don't want you here anyway. Well, that was the funny part was you could take the comment a couple different ways. and the way that I decided to take it. This is how I am taking it. This guy was mad at us for talking about Bravo, not because he's a Bravo fan, and he's like, get the fuck out of my realm. What are you doing here?

No. He did it because he saw two guys talking about something that he didn't like. Right. But the ironic part about that whole thing is, if he's on, like, his 4U page, something Bravo related popped up on his 4U page. So are you a closeted fan?

If you're a closeted fan, hop on out of the closet, listen to the boys talking about Bravo. and that's what we're here for. That's what we are here for. That was the whole premise, the whole start to this whole fucking thing was that, yeah,

there's lots of dudes out here that are watching Bravo. And you don't have to act like you're fucking tougher than it because it makes you look stupid. Yeah. So we have a message to those haters. Join us.

Join us. Don't hate. Join us. Before we get into anything, this week is a little bit different. We're going to recap, get back to the Rob her next week, Shooter decided that he wanted to go on vacation.

Yeah, I mean, the ball's on me, just needing to get away from not only my day job, but the night job being man of night. I got to get away, get to the lake for a few days, play some golf, you know. Sports. Yeah. Sports. We'll get back to Beverly Hills next week. But this week we got Southern Charm, we got Ultimate Girls trip, we got all sorts of fun shit.

Yeah, so next week could be a bit of a monster episode. We'll have two episodes of Beverly Hills. Robha, as you will. Robha, baby. And we'll throw in a little bit of extra. So it could be a bit of a longer episode, but I think you guys are ready for that. Yeah, I think you got buckle up, brav, bros. We're going in.

Along with that, I mean, crazy week for us and a crazy, crazy fucking week in Bravo. Because we have the culmination of what's been going on for a long time. Ever since we started Salt Lake, I don't know how much Salt Lake you watched. I love Salt Lake. It's one of the wackier ones out there. Like the personalities are banana land. And that is kind of emphasized in our news today, Jen Shaw, who was indicted on charges of fraud and embezzlement. And she stole money from the elderly via telemarketing schemes and has done it for a long time.

Her assistant was involved, who was also up on charges. She's been claiming her innocence since. she was on the show filming it. She has gone to war with some of these ladies over these remarks. She has caused divides in the group by trying to defend her innocence. One week before the trial is supposed to start, she switches her plea to guilty. Yeah, and it was the circumstances of the whole thing were kind of erratic. It sounded like she had like an impromptu visit to the court.

in New York and just showed up out of nowhere like a minute before and was like, I'm flipping to guilty. So whatever happened behind the scenes, I mean, she was holding on to this not guilty plea for months and months at this point. No longer than that. Her assistant pled guilty months ago. I mean, I'm under the impression that she was pleading not guilty for over a year. I don't know.

Maybe she was. And I mean, the indictment came, I think, like last March, 2021. and she's been holding on to that for so long. The assistant pled guilty a while ago. And then just before the deadline, she's like, you know what, I'm going to flip the guilty. Or I'm going to flip the guilty.

And I don't know what happened on her end. I'll tell you exactly what happened. Well, if you look at the numbers, which I looked at right away, oh yeah. She's going to be fucking bankrupt. And she's probably going to go to jail for 14 years.

14 years with the plea, which means that's why she flipped. Because they definitely came to her like, look, you're facing 30 years in prison, your ally has already pled guilty, like you're fucked. So either you plead guilty

and like you'll get out of prison to see your kids or you stay in jail pretty much until you're an elder. Hope for good behavior and maybe get out at some point. You know what I mean? I mean, she was,

it's like six and a half million dollars for just, I mean, the issue itself and then another nine on top of that to pay restitution to the other people. And then on top of that, she's going to have to open herself up to what we're very familiar with with Erica to the civil charges too because there's at least and this number actually kind of shocked me I thought it was way more but over the age of 55 there's at least 10 people that can bring claims back to her

so she's going to get fucked multiple times she deserves it in the court she in a clerical sense but yeah so that's that's going to happen whether she likes it or not and yeah and then she's still facing 14 years of jail time, which will get knocked down and whatever. But she's going to face some jail time. She's going to go to jail. And it was kind of a whirlwind that she just, the reports were like she just walked in one day and got it over. Here's the funny thing. And I didn't notice this.

Dev, my wife is the one that pointed this out. So she's bankrupt at this point. She has no money left. And she's strolling into court. She had to borrow money from her mother who cashed out her retirement fund. to help her pay her bills, allegedly, like get through this hard time, help her pay her lawyer, whatever. She strolls into the court wearing this season's Gucci.

This season, which means that she just bought some Gucci shit so that she would look good when she walked up because, you know why? Here's the craziest part of all of this shit. She's still fucking filming for the show. That is crazy. That's banana land, dude. Great content, but crazy. Is it going to be content?

I mean, great content. I think I'm going to feel dirty watching it because all it's going to be, the only thing she's going to say at this point on, since they're still filming, is trying to exonerate herself how she wronged so many people, but she saw the error of her ways. And now she's going to come out and be this, like, better person and she's changed her life and blah, blah, blah.

Fuck you. You don't get, like, we're giving her a stage now to try to, like, talk her way out of it. And I don't like it. I think that they should, like, it's crazy to me that Bravo as a company can afford the liability of keeping somebody on that's pleading guilty to major fraud charges. Well, the good thing is that she didn't use Bravo to, like, heighten her own, like, advantages

in her business. So anytime that the question came up, like Andy asked the question at a reunion, all the girls in the show were asking about her, she was always giving these, like, vague answers about what her business actually did and how she built her fortune. and it never really made any sense. And then she was just like answer as vague as possible until somebody was just like, all right, we're not getting anything, so we're done. So Bravo doesn't really, I don't think, in the business sense,

I don't think they have a liability here. But I think it's going to be at least very interesting to see maybe we'll get a little bit of insight as to why she flipped. Maybe like you'll get a couple of episodes of her are still like denying, denying, denying, and then maybe we'll get like, oh, this is why I flipped. And it'll still be bullshit. That's what I'm saying, because she's going to say, I flipped because I knew it was the right thing.

to do that's what she did yeah she's trying to like give herself a better image and say you know i've realized my wrongdoings and i need to show that i feel sorry for these people that i've wronged and it's like no if you felt sorry you probably wouldn't have done it in the first place or wouldn't have gotten this far yeah i mean it's it's insane that they're giving her a platform i is it going to make good tv i mean people are going to fucking watch it yeah absolutely i'll watch it but it just drives me nuts that we're giving her more attention when she's a horrible fucking person. Like she doesn't deserve the fucking platform. She defrauded old people, which is the worst.

That's number four. I gave my big three last week of shit you don't do. Number four is defraud elderly people out of their money. It's a big list. It's going to grow watching these shows more and more things happen that get on my list of just things you don't do to humans, period. Well, the interesting thing from a. bro's standpoint is what's going to happen to her husband he's the debacks coach for utah i know so is utah at this upstanding institution are they going to look at this like all right

you're going to have to go buddy he has to be complicit yeah by the way he's an attorney oh yeah did you know that yeah you're telling me that all this shit's happening and you're not like hmm something's going on here you're you're completely oblivious of the entire situation yeah there's no way he's living off of his $500,000 a year salary. Not in that fucking house. No. No shot. Not with her fucking lifestyle. He's reaping the benefits of all of

the wrongs that his wife has done. Which is a shame because when I saw the first season I like, like, he really gave me that football coach vibe. I was like, I've had football coaches like him. I've had baseball coaches like him. See, we play sports.

And like he gave me that vibe. I was like, oh, like I feel like he's, every time he talks. It's like a motivational speech. And I kind of like it. I kind of like this guy. I'm viving with him. Come to find out, no, he ain't that cool. No, he's definitely complicit. He's 100% in on this. And I don't know if we're allowed to say stuff like this now that people actually listen to us. But sure. Yeah. You know what? Wild accusations. Wild accusations. We get wacky. But I mean, I guess the, from a covering content standpoint, it's great because we're going to have like a resolution to this conversation now.

actually get to see it play out in almost real time. And I guess I'm excited to see. I just, I don't know what to even expect with it. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be one of those wait and see type of moments. And if we get anything,

which I probably would be kind of stupid to cut her scenes because that's why people are going to tune in the first place. For sure. Like, I mean, people will tune in because they like the show. And because they've got to see what happens with Mary, the fucking cult leader.

Yeah. And we'll get into that when that eventually comes. Unless you are listening and you're part of Mary's cult, yet she's not a cult leader. No, no, definitely. Great woman. She's awesome. Very inspirational. Yeah, we love her.

Absolutely. We love her. So obviously our girl Kyle faced the ton of bat. No, I got to get used to not saying our girl, Kyle. She was always your girl. My girl, Kyle. Now she's no one's girl. Yeah, but there was a lot of backlash at Kyle for what happened last week.

And rightfully so, what is not cool, I guess Portia, her daughter, has been getting a lot of shit on Instagram. Yeah, and that never made any sense to me, but that's how dark social media can get where people have a problem with your mom so they're going to come after you. Like, oh, my God, look at her. She's just posting something and isn't taking ownership for what her mom just did to Sutton during the Diana. Which is fucking ridiculous. Who fuck cares. Yeah, she shouldn't, by the way, that's the last thing she should have to do is defend her mom on a reality. television show that's not her job she's a 14 year old kid is that right uh yeah i think so like 14 to 16 somewhere in there where like she needs to be a fucking teenager her life is wacky enough

especially with kyle and mo as her parents and like now they're getting ready for a reality show like another one like leave the fucking kid alone that's it's crazy to me that that's even an option which i do and i want to kind of now that you just brought a marisa show uh potential conspiracy theory that I came across. I've heard this one. I ate. Spill it. That Bravo is actively making Kyle look terrible and Maricio look terrible because they wanted

to rail his show on Netflix because what's going to happen is you would imagine a popular housewife, everybody loves Maricio, Bravo fans are going to go watch the Netflix show, right? No. Let's make her look fucking terrible. Let's make Maricio look as bad as possible. Now we're not going to get the viewership of the Netflix show. Can that show? Wow, I didn't hear that one.

Yeah. Ooh, that. But that brings us back to what we were talking about with Maricio's show in the first place was if, you know, the ultimate girl trip, the first season, they used one Maricio's houses. Like, was that like a trial period to see how that went, to see if Bravo could take it on or Peacock could take on his show? And then he went to Netflix. So like maybe the inner workings of this aren't as cut and clear as they, as we thought. Maybe he just took the money and ran and went to Netflix. And they say, you know what?

You are big because of this. don't forget where you came from yep so we're going to hunt you down and make you look like shit wow i love that one i think that's great i'm in for that one i'm on board yeah i'm on board the one that i heard was um the reason that kyle is trying to get so close with diana is because of the real estate market it's trying to make oh is she trying to sell her she's trying to sell diana's house yeah one and she's trying to get the business of diana's real estate come to her and maricio's company because obviously now you're talking you know 87 million dollars like that's well you're going to get you might get tied up in sex trafficking too

yeah you know maybe you want to steer clear that one maricio yeah be careful what you wish for you're going to end up another anecdote in room 23 yeah and we talked about the uh my list growing number four is you know leave the children alone number four is defrauding old defrauding elderly people Oh, I guess we can add to it again with Ultimate Girl's Trip number five, leave the kids out of it. No, that was mine with Portia. I guess I didn't add that to the list. Yeah, number five. It's part of it, yeah.

With Portia and leading us right into Ultimate Girl's Trip, which we actually missed last week, which is funny because last week was a fucking party. All the ladies were lit off their ass on fucking bourbon, which I thought was great. But as that was all happening, I was very aware. where like, okay, brown liquor nights don't lead to happy things. No. Like, this is a bomb waiting to go off. Bomb goes off. Not the way I thought it would.

It was over the stupidest shit ever because Dorinda made a big deal out about Jill being up Eva's ass about sitting in on a radio show. Which doesn't make any sense because for two things, Eva's on her radio show. She has headphones on. Like, you can't even hear what the other person's saying. All you can kind of hear is what Eva is saying. If you're some idiot yelling in the background, Eva's going to be like, you've got to stop.

Yeah, get out of here. She just wanted to, and I truly do think that Jill just wanted to sit in on the show and, like, get away from everybody else, maybe like, lay in her bed, whatever. Dyrina made such a big fucking deal about it. And it brings you back to, like, the root of, I think, what this show is, all of these women are just trying to stay relevant. I know. And they're so thirsty for, like, any sort of attention that, all right, maybe Jill had some ill intentions where she's like, oh, even. do you mind if like maybe I get like a spot on your radio show like no get the fuck out of here this is my show yeah that doesn't even work that way derinda coming in and yelling at her was so dumb and then she kept it going and

kept bringing it up and it's like enough and i don't know like some moments in this show you're like that was kind of funny but at the root of it all it's just all of them trying to stay relevant and sometimes it just gets so irritating you're like go away buzz off i don't want to watch you on tv anymore you're not on hold you're fucking fired no she she she is confirmed paused by and on Watch What Happens Live, interestingly enough. But to your point, this episode especially was very prevalent with the desperation. This episode smelled desperate from the jump. Pretty much every woman except for Brandy, in my opinion.

Eva, Badra, were fighting for screen time, fighting for storylines, fighting for relevance, fighting for catchphrases. Like, if I hear Vicky Force whoop it up into, conversation one more fucking time. I feel like what happened is before they went to dinner, her publicist called her and said, we need, we need more. I heard from the editors, like, we need more out of you. You're napping.

You're not engaged. You keep going to urgent care and getting steroid shots all the time. We need more out of you. And I think she's like, I'm going to whoop it up tonight, baby. Oh, my God. It's so dumb. You're not whooping up shit. You're a fucking bummer.

And you haven't been present. Like, sit in the background and ride off into the sunset. You're already pissed. It's going to be eight days, which is the most. you're going to get in front of the camera for the rest of your life because I don't see you coming back to O.C. Yeah, and we kind of get that when like Taylor is yelling at Brandy saying like you'll do anything. You'll be on anybody's show. You'll do this. You'll do that. And Brandy's just looking at her like, what are you even talking about? All of them are doing that. I know. They all do

it. Like she has no self-awareness when she's saying this out loud. Taylor was the one who just brought up something from nine fucking years ago. Ten. Out of nowhere. Ten years ago. And it wasn't even an issue that involved her. No, it wasn't an issue that involved her. It wasn't in the context whatsoever. And you see this all the time. Like every episode, there's at least one of these moments where like one girl locks eyes with another and she goes, I have some beef with you from so fucking long ago. And we have to like dig around to be like, what was the beef? And when it comes down to it, if we're going to address it, I don't think what brandy was even talking about was that bad. Like she, what, she outed Adrian for having a surrogate? Well, hold on. I think

that if you're a child and you are under the impression that you came out of your mother, like hearing that you came out of another woman, I imagine would be slightly shocking. I think that that's a moment that you share with your parents. I agree with that. We don't have to get into the morals of that. You have to get into the morals. That's the whole

basis of the argument. Is it moral that what she did? That's what caused it. Well, yes and no. I just think that if what Brandy said is true and she said that everybody in Beverly Hills knew it, which they probably did, Brandy didn't pull the child aside and say, hey, by the way, that's not really your mom no that's true and like that's when you keep the kids out of it but like did she

need to bring it up no but brandy brings up stupid shit all the time and it happens whatever but to bring it up now 10 years ago something for 10 years ago bringing up at some dinner no context involved at all makes absolutely no sense it's just like I've got a bone to pick with you from how long ago all right guess everything's fucking open well to your point before that's just vying for relevance she's like I'm here's my fight everyone else is I've went out brandy one I'm going to catch her with the one, two, here. I've been putting this in my back pocket forever. Meanwhile, Brandy and Adrian are friends now.

So this is a moot point. Yeah, it has nothing to do with you. Yeah, you're arguing on nobody's behalf. Yep. And the whole time that this is going on, you get Dorinda drunk as shit. Dude, she was drunk when Eva goes up to her room to talk to her at like 11. They just got done the hot air balloon thing, which is also like bizarre. me that Dorinda thinks that a good time is for her to go up and that was 100% to show off like

her shit like look at all my stuff look at my my manner and like to her credit what she says when she's like you know as a woman to be able to keep this like that's a big deal yes Durinda good for you honestly like that's dope like that is a cool thing that you're able to maintain a place like that on your own as a woman that seriously but you don't have to flon it in front of all of the girl like that's all you're doing is look at my fucking house and vicky even says it vicky had two times i agree with her this episode where i thought she was actually on point that was one where she's like oh i'm so glad derinda gets to see her house i'm like yeah that's clearly what this is about but she was drunk with eva after that clearly she's been drunk

the entire time i don't know who i was excited about her being the narrator and kind of guiding us along this journey after episode one after episode two it was getting old at this point who made you the fucking captain did you have a conversation with andy before this happened where he's like hey this is your ship you need to steer it yeah probably and i think that the back part of that this is your ship and you need to see it is you need to perform well if you want to come off a pause but she's just coming off is so desperate and needy it's brutal to watch and then she i mean as she gets drunker throughout the night. It's like, what are you even talking about? Like, you have the moment where she's talking to Tamara and Taylor about how, all right, yeah, we definitely keep the kids

out of it. Absolutely. 30 fucking seconds later, she goes, what if your kid died, Brandy? Well, first, I mean, don't, before we get there, we have to, have to address the fact that Brandy was saying, oh, that was a successful year. What about your husband? Like, whoa, dude. Yeah. And it's, at least some of this is like in context too because we jump from jill's time on the show with um her husband passing away and like whether or not she invited the cameras she 100% absolutely she admitted it on the reunion two things one yes two she sent herself those flowers oh yeah without you think so without a fucking doubt in my mind uh i don't know because i could see i could see her her late husband also doing the same thing and i think maybe jill just has like a good

good sense of a good guy to date. So maybe he did. Because I feel like her ex-husband would have sent those flowers, too. What does that have to do with anything? I just think that she has, she's got good choice selection of men. Okay, fair enough. But what, Jesus, okay, regardless, I'm fucking derailed now. What was I talking about?

I thought it was a sweet moment. I honestly don't think that Jill. I think she sent herself the flowers. I think she's, I think Brandy said it best. She's the thirstiest one on the TV. But he showed up with her, gave her like a goodbye, brought the dog. Because she told him to. Nah, I think he wanted.

No, I mean, maybe he wants to get in the limelight. Maybe that's. Just a little bit, yeah. And then he came back later and he's like, I'm going to send her some flowers. I don't know, you know. Debatable. Good work. I stand by what I said.

Anyway, continue. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go off on that Jill tangent. But yeah, so we do start off with like Jill's, a whole thing about her husband's funeral and whether or not she invited the cameras in, which she, you and I agree, she absolutely did. Yes, without a doubt. Puts it off on her assistant, whatever. The producers pull out receipts in her confessional.

Yeah, and she said something to Andy during the reunion about how, yes, she did invite Bravo. So who the fuck cares? We can move on from that. We go then to Taylor's just calling out Brandy for the bullshit from like nine, ten years ago. Brandy feels cornered. Nobody's really helping her. Everybody's kind of like, they could have stepped in and been like, why are we talking about this? Are you about to defend what she said?

No, not at all. I just thought that, like, she was very cornered in a situation. She just decided to, like, blow it up with the nuke. Yeah. Like, first off, the whole cinnamon stick thing was ridiculous. You're just a cinnamon stick and a successful pot of water. And you come toppling down on the six of us who had a very successful show. And Brandy was like, well, if you look into that, it's like, all right, your show was successful.

Brandy was okay in that. She brought an element. That was fine. She was the cinnamon stick. didn't blow the show up. So why are you bitching about this now? Unless you're blaming Brandy for the reason that you're no longer on a show, which is possible. I kept that vibe.

And, and yeah, Brandy's comeback was wild. Like, the only reason that that show was successful in that season was because your husband killed himself. Oh, that's what you got from it? Oh, yeah, that's exactly what I got from it. Oh, okay. I think I might have taken it wrong. I got from that that she was saying, you call that a successful year, your husband died.

Oh, that's even worse. That's, well, that's why I was like, holy fuck. Yeah, no, it could be either one, honestly. We'll go with yours because it's worse. Yeah, I like that way better. But that's when Derinda comes back after everything kind of settles. Like, they go in the other room, Thadha takes Brandy and like talking her down. She comes back to the table.

Dorinda's trying to, I think in her own drunken mind, like trying to keep the peace originally. And then goes with the, what if your son died and everyone, everybody, even, I think Taylor for a split second was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, it was, and it was a really good job of the, uh, the producers because, like, you kind of see this sometimes where they bring in the subtitles, like I watch shows with subtitles and I'm going to stand by that all the time, but the producers put in the subtitles for this and you see slurring. Slurring Dyrinda, and you're like Dorenda was slurring hard.

That's what, that's her tell. She always slurs. It was crazy. And yeah, she says that everyone is baffiring. like whoa dude you cannot say that floored yeah and brandy gets up leaves again what's number three time out what's number three on the big three deaths in the family that brings in three and five on your list three and five kids and death in the family but brandy almost loses i think she was actually about to go after her she gets up and walks away fadier and eva who are continuing to be our peacekeepers throughout this whole thing fager by the way had some fans

fantastic one-liners this show. They go after Brandy trying to calm her down. They're both wondering, like, what the fuck is going on? Like, this shit is insane. Well, Brandy runs over to the bar and just goes vodka now. Yeah, vodka, and the bartender turns around, and you even said it, you were like, I just assume that every bartender, every waiter is Marco. Yeah, they all look like Marshall.

They all kind of look like them, too. Especially with the mask. I'm like, well, that's Marco at the bar. And they go to the bar before that, where they're day drinking, because that's a great fucking idea with this crew. nothing blows up when they've had too much booze. But that guy behind the bar looked like Marco to me. And they go back to the bar for one of, like I said,

Fager with some excellent one-liners. And she goes, you can't talk to her like that. You can't do that to her. She's old enough to be your mom. And Brandy's like, she's five years older than me. And Pedro's like, oh, really? Oh, Jesus. Yeah, and then the bartender starts laughing.

Like, that was funny. Like, zooming over to the bartender who's like hiding laughter behind his mask. Yeah. Like great moment there. Yeah, Marco can't hold together. But like,

Fager comes in, saves the day, diffuses that situation because Brandy was, Doreinda comes back over to Brandy at the bar and like tries to put her arm around her like,

listen, and Brandy was about to fucking punch her in the face. And then Dorenda takes offense to her same bitch. You don't call me bitch. It's like you are a bitch. So she goes away and then Fager comes in diffuses the situation with a good. Bartender laughs.

We're good. We're going back to whip it up. Yeah, we're going to go wop it up because we're forcing that. shit and whoop baby whoop and oh fager with the one there she goes she's not really whooping it up it's more like a woo-woo or a woo-woo-woo but she's trying and yeah vicky's vicky's gotten like monumentally better to deal with throughout this she's she still sucks

but the first two episodes were like insufferable that she's taking a backseat she's not like making things about her she's going to urgent care she's you know taking her naps and stuff which is fine everybody loves a good nap oh yeah especially if her day drinking. By the way, take a little nap. Derinda claims that she doesn't nap. She could use a nap. She's napped every episode. Oh. Leading up until this. She's taken a nap every single episode up until this one and then says, I'm here. I know what it takes. I'm exhausted. I'm not taking naps. And it goes to like the cut scenes, nap, nap, nap. And you're going after Vicki, who, I mean, in her defense had COVID,

not that long ago, which, you know, we've all had it at this point. Like, it takes a little while to recover from it. So, I don't know, Derinda is shooting herself in the foot. I don't think she's getting re-signed after this. No way. This was her contract year. She had to put up some big numbers. She's got too much control. Them even putting it at a bluestone was like a bad move because Derinda just went power crazy. Yeah, she thinks it's her show. And I think that arguably because of the setting, like I can see why she would feel like she takes priority. But she's falling by the way side. Eva and Fajer taking center stage. Brandy is making a big comeback because you know what's good about Brandy, honestly, she's not trying to play it up for the camera. This is just her. She's just a

fucking train wreck. She's not doing any of those like, yeah, she has a ton of low blows and a lot of like crazy things to say. But she's not like, aside from the first episode where she pulled Taylor aside and started talking to her about like their past problems, she's not bringing it up for the cameras. It doesn't seem forced. Nothing she's doing seems forced. Fager, you know, making her comments seems great. Everybody else is so thirsty for the attention. It's like, yeah, I guess you're on here for a trial. You're on here for a tryout.

Falling flat hard. Yeah, you're not coming back. No, they're not. They're not. I think that those three have a chance. And, you know, I love a good comeback story. So I'm rooting for them. Routen for all three.

And I wasn't a brandy fan in the first episode, but she has turned me. She is excellent television. Yep. But that takes. this to your fave, my least fave, which is Southern Charm. I wouldn't say it's my fave, but I definitely enjoyed a lot more than you do. Yeah, I'm still struggling with it. And I think that the root of it, honestly, if you took out two people from this show, I'd be in. I'm going to guess three people. Three people. Yeah, go

ahead. Three. I'll guess all three. Obviously, Austin. Got to go. No. Wow. Okay. Well, then replace Austin with Shep. Yep. Even though he's good for the show. Catherine, probably. No, wow, you're missing. Wow. Yeah. All right. I'm just picking the people that you hate.

I do hate them, but I can see, like I said, I went into this unbiased. I went into this, like, trying my best for the show, for our show. Well, then give me your three, because I honestly have no idea where you're going with this. Shep, Whitney, Patricia. Oh, right. Packaged deal. Fuck out of here. Yeah, I mean, the scene with, and we can, we don't really need to go play by play in this episode either because not.

Not a lot happened, but I know that the scene with Whitney and Patricia going to the farmer's market was one of the worst scenes that I think you've probably ever watched on the way. I wanted to pull my fucking hair out. It was atrocious. They get in the car, the Rolls-Royce, he opens the door. He's like, am I chauffeur in you? She's like, of course, I'm not sitting in the front seat. Like, that's your son sitting in the front seat. She has to chill the champagne, of course.

You know, you're just taking a lovely little, this is probably a fucking Tuesday, by the way, taking a lovely trip over to the farmer's market. Who knows how far this farmer's market is. It's Charleston. It's not big. Yeah. So let's make sure the champagne is nice and chilled for me in the backseat here. And them walking around, I mean, what did she say? She's like, I'm not familiar with the domesticated arts.

Yeah. When she's talking about, like, picking out vegetables. She doesn't know what a winter squash is. Do you, oh, do you know what a winter squash is? I think so. Name one winter squash. No, I guess I don't know there was different, different types of squash for the winter. Different squashes bloom in different seasons, but whatever.

Anyway, she says like, yeah, I'm undomesticated. And then my biggest issue with what she said, well, first of all, okay, my first issue with what she said is, at least he only had leukemia. But then she follows it up with two or three weeks of leukemia, which I guess she was saying, like... About Whitney's dad. Yeah, about Whitney's dad. But I guess she was like, at least it wasn't long. Yeah. At first, it just, when you see it, like, at least he only dealt with leukemia.

Yeah. Was, like, funny. But I think that was like the cutoff of the subtitle. And then it went for two or three weeks. Now I get it. It's like, all right, yeah, he didn't suffer with, and he was dying. But, like, he didn't suffer with exactly leukemia until the last couple of weeks. I guess.

So that's what she's getting up. But it's still, like, very weird. It doesn't really make anything. It was poor choice of words. It was just a weird thing to say to a man that just lost his father who then replies like, yeah, it was a rough summer, like nonchalant. My dad died. Really bad summer.

Yeah, it was a tough summer. Like, if you have a bad time at summer camp, it's a tough summer. Like, it just seemed, I don't know, disassociated. A lot of their scenes together are entirely tone deaf. That's why I hate them. I can't stand them. And that's like, it takes me to the next one, which is they're talking, she's talking about how Whitney's a vegan and he only cooks vegetables and like she doesn't want a cauliflower

steak. She wants like a hamburger and she's eating a hamburger in the back of the car with her sweet sweet butler who is now paralyzed and she says, I miss Michael. I want bacon. Like are you fucking kidding me? The man's life is over. Yeah. He is paralyzed from the neck down. And all you can think of is now I have to live with Whitney cooking his vegan meals and I get no bacon. Fuck you. Thanks to your paralysis. Yeah. Like, you selfish piece of shit.

Now I can't eat bacon anymore. Like this could be, it could have been such like a touching moment talking about your butler and how nice he was and how great he was in her life. And how much you cherished your relationship. And instead it was just like bacon. Like that's what I associated him with is me eating the foods that I want to eat. He's me getting to cheat my cheat meals. Not that this man can't walk. anymore.

No, but we, we, we can push that scene aside, much like any scene, but just the two of the minute. You just shove it aside and move on. I'll compartmentalize. Trudge through. We get to, uh, ship pulling up right at the opening of this bar. Because he has nothing else to do. Well, he gets, it's a nice little dog bar.

You get to bring a little Craig over there. Oh, the idea of the, first of all, the fact of the name is dog Craig, fuck you. I think that's fucking hilarious. That's so, what if my dog, what if he walked in the door and I had a fucking pug named shooter? It would be hilarious. You're a different breed. But I would be livid.

It's so disrespectful to name somebody after a dog, in my opinion. Or name, no, sorry, to name a dog after somebody. I think it's endearing. But they're at the dog park. He's cracking a cold one with Bringle. And he's talking about how he had a scare, a pregnancy scare. And you would have thought that you were talking to a 19-year-old, that just had a pregnancy scare with his like first love i was so upset at this scene like it

just made me hate him more he's like you know the last time i had a scare i was 35 and i was like oh man i can't handle this right now like you're 35 you're not 25 dude like what are you talking about and now you because you want autonomy because you want to be your own man and like do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it it's out of the realm of possibility that a girl that you've been with for two years to take it to the next level in your 40s yeah i mean he's just he's the epitome of selfishness when it comes to that and he just doesn't fully get it like you get the scene later when he has all the boys over for the barbecue and austin the voice of reason honestly i will in this moment give austin credit because i thought that that was a that was a good moment for him yeah

He spoke honestly. He was correct with what he was saying. And I liked that he wasn't afraid to say it. Yeah. And the reason that I'm jumping to gone a little bit on the episode here is because you get, at that point, you've got Pringle and Shep talking at the bar, juxtapose to Taylor and Shep's cousin at the baby store because Shep's cousin is pregnant, expecting her first child, looking around at all this stuff, talking to Taylor.

about babies and like what this life that she wants with Shep is and rightfully so Taylor very skeptical. I don't know what Shep wants. I don't know what he needs. He told me once that he doesn't even believe in monogamy and he's having a tough time with this and I want kids. So I don't know if this is going to work. And Shep's cousin, very honest, maybe you don't want Shep. Like, you think? So to hear Austin talk about it later and Austin's in his face like, dude, you've been with her for two years. If you want this and you think that she's right for you, you can't lead her on to the point where you need to figure out if you want kids. She wants kids. You've been with her for two years. What are you going to wait until she's like five, six years in? And Shep's like,

well, you know, like I know a lot of different relationships that get like five, six years in. And then they break up because it just doesn't work out. You know, these two people just don't want what they want. Shep's 42. Shep's 42. And also like with that statement, he completely misses the mark because Austin's like no she wants these things he doesn't care what she wants no he doesn't he could give two shits what anybody wants but he wants her to come around to his idea of what a relationship

which is polygamy yep which is what he says when he says it and probably no kids and he can't imagine a kid coming into his life and ruining his life his ability to go to the bar at you know the crack at dawn on a Tuesday he pretty much says that to Pringle who has two children

yeah like he is just in his own fucking world and it's It's hard to watch, honestly. When he comes on the screen, I am not happy. And to speak on a little bit more, like, when he says that, like, you know, I hate when people say that, like, what, these years haven't been good. It's like, that's not the point. She's trying to find somebody forever, buddy, and you're wasting her time if you don't have an end game. And the fact that you don't know that in your 40s just shows you how selfish, childish, and just ignorant to the world you are.

And I can't stand those kinds of people, Sean. I just, I dropped a Sean. That's how serious this is. Not only that, but he is the epitome of who you don't like because once again, we get another bad Bravo dog. I can't do. We had a bad Bravo dog with him because he's eating the cornhole bags. Like he won't leave him alone. Like put him inside.

If I'm playing cornhole and a dog is pulling my bags off of the board and I lose that game, I'm livid. sports sports another sport bros um but fast forward when or rewind sorry they're at olivia's parents house the dog won't stop like growling for cheese yeah what are you doing well and that's with olivia and we get like a little bit more into what i guess the relationship i mean they're still dating now but you get a little bit into what her relationship with austin's like with her talking about like he wants me to come over and like watch some netflix and like Netflix and chill and like her mom knew what that was right away, which is funny. Yeah.

And reasonably speaking, like, she's 30 and her mom's like, like, you shouldn't be driving over to his house to go do that and then driving back. Like, he should be sending you an Uber. It should be more of a date. Like, what are they doing? And you don't know what the fuck Austin's doing. Like way more summer house Austin is showing here where he's still kind of like looking around.

He's like probably depressed after fucking Madison. And Olivia's like. talking to her parents. Like, is this who I want to actually be with? Is he treating me right? Probably not. Maybe he still isn't. Maybe he is now. Who the hell knows? But you get a little bit of insight into like who Olivia is and like her family background, which was kind of nice. I seem, I actually kind of like her parents. They seem they seem okay. They're pretty down to her and they have a good marriage, which usually, you know, you see a good marriage in front of you try to like match that. That's what you're going to emulate. And so here's here's the like where I will give.

Austin a little bit of leeway, all right, because this is what I think the season is setting up for, only because of a watch what happens live with Craig and Page where they address that they're filming Southern Charm, they're talking about all the fallout from Summer House and that's on the show. Like, we're going to get to that at some point. And Craig says he does kind of have a come to Jesus moment at some point where he like realizes like, oh fuck, like maybe I need to change a little bit. This is all hearsay, all right? Well, it's probably him watching Shep Handle Taylor.

Right. I'm realizing, do I want to match that or do I want to match what Craig's doing, which looks like a healthy relationship for lack of better terms because I'm really like Page. But yeah, I mean, if he has it come to Jesus moment, good. I think that that's what the producers are setting it up. That's where they're showing him in bed rolling over when his phone's going off. They're showing him kind of dragging his feet. They're showing him being arguably the wrong person in the Craig Austin dispute,

which they finally make up a little bit. So we'll see where that goes. But on a park bench. Yeah. If I ever hit you up and say, hey, man, we got to talk about some shit. And you say, you know, that park, there's a nice bench that I like to sit at. Just assume that I'm probably going to get you assassinated or something. You're going to kill me?

I'm going to put you out in the public. It was just a weird. Like, you get the other ones like, like Madison and Vanita go to lunch and they have food and they talk about stuff. If I hit somebody up and I'm like, hey, yeah, let's go hang out in a public park. Like, you're going to murder them. I think. that thank you for letting me know if i ever do that just i'm not coming think twice i won't be there but it just yeah the craig austin thing and we know it boils over eventually because they get like

into a drunken fight per the scenes from next week or the week after or whatever so that'll happen at some point um yeah we'll see what austin brings and how that works i don't know how it's going work, though. I mean, I don't know. I think that, again, I'm basing this off of that watch what happens live. I think they make up. I think things get better, but I think we're going through a journey right now where

they're highlighting Austin kind of being on the low. Yeah, and he's going to, like, because we also saw Madison had to announce her engagement on Amazon. It's fucking ridiculous. She goes on Amazon live to announce her engagement after, and timeframes

always gets cute, after she talks to Benita about like how in love she is with this guy that she met on a Brett's Brett party Brett out in Scottsdale um Brett would be from fucking Scottsdale yeah of course and she has this conversation and then the very next day it seems she's announcing her engagement on Amazon fucking live Amazon live and it's like who who do you think you are that you're important enough that people give a fuck I'd like to see how many people tuned in like I would probably be upset at the number honestly it's probably more than it should have been and it's like, you know what, a nice Instagram post would have done.

Would have done the one where you're pretending to toast, but you make sure your ring is the center part of the picture. You're like, oh, fun night tonight, clink, but it's like, oh, we see your gigantic diamond. And then she has to highlight on camera. He did pretty good, right? It's like, yeah, clearly is the size of your head. That would have been way better. She said that.

What we do get is a little insight into how Austin feels about it. And the boys are all sitting around the table, making jokes, making bets. about how long the engagement's going to last, which I thought was really funny. And you got Pringle. Pringle's like, oh, what are we doing? The over under six months. And then Austin just goes, who the fuck cares? And everybody just stops.

Doesn't say a word. Looks around. Like Craig gets it right away. We get Craig's confessional right away. And he's like, you know, Austin and Madison always thought that they end up together no matter what they put each other through, which you think that they will still. I think they're going to end up together. I don't, I'm, I'm in with the boys.

All right. That was a bro, bro moment. And I'm like, you know what? I want to put my money in on this too. I agree. I don't think they're making it to the altar. I think that Austin fucks it up with Olivia. And I think that they find their way back to each other in this tumultuous, toxic, terrible

relationship that they both just sludge through for the rest of their lives. There's a good chance that that will still happen, which is kind of funny to say. But you do at least see like a little bit of the human side of Austin where it's like, yeah, this isn't like a drunken rage. This isn't him being an idiot. This isn't anything. There's like a very real moment for him. he had a genuine moment enough like who the fuck cares i don't want to talk about this right now i was

having fun and now i'm not yeah and that's totally fair and i felt for him in that moment like that definitely had to suck it had to sting a little bit i thought he took it pretty well thought he handled it pretty well austin had some better moments this episode i said it before we started this so my team austin apps are fucking lootly not but well the the other uh the person like we can go around the table with all the people there the person that we didn't mention at that party is poor, poor Caleb, who has been out of his house for five days. He left for five days. When he said that, I was like, whoa, whoa.

Five days with, and we thought like, all right, he stormed out. He came back later and he was talking to her. Whatever. He's talking to Catherine. No, he left. He went to his cousin's house. He's been staying with his cousin for five days. Not only did he, like, drive around and talk to his mom about it.

His mom took Catherine's side, which is wild. He went to a barbecue with his boys in the middle of this five day stretch. In the midst of it, he went to go see her friends. Yeah, and said, oh, yeah, like, I haven't talked to Catherine in a couple days. Like, what? And he was like, yeah, I haven't been home for how long? Five days, you haven't been home? They're all stunned.

I was, too. I was like, dude, that's a long time. Yeah, to not go home, like, I don't remember seeing him pack a full bag or anything. He just bounced. But you know what? If you're dating Catherine, maybe he had a full bag in his car. He had a go bag. He has a Catherine go bag.

He probably does. He doesn't have to hide it, like, up in the ceiling or anything like you see in like bank robbery movies or anything like that he's got a go bag passport everything he needs in his car just get the fuck out for a little while i think that it's necessary in that relationship and the funniest shit to me in like a not funny sad way he finally he's like i'm going there tonight we're going to have dinner like the most bizarre thing of it all is how much his mother pushes this like you need to make up with her you need to make up with her like what about him what about schleb like is he happy is this a healthy relationship

relationship for him? Like, is he getting into the right thing, mom? Like, what are we doing here? But it doesn't matter how close Catherine is to the family. I don't care. No, that's your son. It's still your son. Like, take his side. But I did think it was interesting. You know, he finally gets to Catherine's and they're, I guess, talking it out. Her attitude was so funny to me when he walks in the door. First of all, let's remember why he left because she can't be cool with anybody. She lost her shit at the party. She lost her shit on everybody there. She loses her shit on him. I can't deal with you hating everybody pretty much. Like, I'm out.

Yeah. That's the root of what happened. When he gets home, she's like, at no point was that addressed. It never came up in conversation. She immediately plays the victim entirely asking what he's going to do to fix it. Where have you been? What, like, what do you have to even say pretty much? And he's just like, I just want to make it work.

He's like, I love you and I want this to work. I like. And she just goes, oh, my God. She goes, no. Yeah, yeah. She goes, oh, my God. and then he says, let's talk about it. She goes, are you kidding me?

What do you do? Like, yeah, seriously. Like, all right, do you want to address the fact that I've been gone for five days? He did. He said, I needed some space. You didn't, for all intents of purposes, probably didn't, like, reach out to him. No. You guys didn't talk about this at all.

So he got his space. He talked to his mom. He talked to his friends. He comes back. He's ready to talk. And he was maybe not apologetic. Like, she probably wanted him to grovel when he came back. He doesn't need to.

He doesn't need to grow up for being out of the house for five days, fair. But then you need to address the root of the problem, which is you. And that's what he says. Like, it's always your feelings. Like, what about Schleb? What about my man Caleb? Yeah. Like, Kaylee is drowning and no one gives a shit.

It is interesting that one of his issues, though, is the custody battle and the kids. Like, I don't know if he's ready to take on that role. Maybe not. I mean, I could go both ways on this one just because he said, like, three days three years into or three months into us dating you through the kids on me through the kids on me which i don't know if she threw the kids adam i don't even know how that makes sense well if you're dating somebody who has kids you have to understand going into it okay if like if you're dating in the first place what's the end game well if you're getting married you're going to have life together

whatever you're going to see these kids eventually like if you're dating a single parent you're dating their kids too like that's a try out and you need to be involved and you need to be open to it and it's not like you didn't know she had kids if she's that close to the family like you're well aware of the situation before you get involved probably met the kids before i'm sure he has yeah like three months i feel like of actual dating and then she brings the kids in the situation i feel like that's way more than enough time for you to get acclimated build a relationship with katherine get the kids involved and then you're like i don't know if i want this which is also fine if you don't want this then then don't leave katherine hanging don't leave the kids hanging that's the thing

that's the thing and that's where it gets tricky because if you're not that guy that's okay if you don't get involved past a certain point. Yeah. Right. Like if you are not that guy and you are staying around too long, now it's an issue. And I do, that's the only part I agree with Catherine on there is like you're involving that children now, they're developing a relationship. They've already had to see this battle between their actual parents go down.

Like if you're not down, you can't be there for more than a certain amount of time, period. And I don't care like during this conversation, how delicious the meal is. That was the most atrocious looking meal I've ever seen. Honestly, it took me a while to figure out what she was even making because, like, I saw the meatballs right away. I'm like, all right, meatballs. And then she's obviously on top of the stove. All right, cool.

Pasta, normal meal just for fucking once. No, like, eating noises, nothing weird. She comes out with this, like, slop. This was the most upsetting meal I've seen yet. I've been upset multiple times with the chewing and masticating. That's been going on on screen and the noises that come with it. they didn't even eat it and it was the worst scene yet he was just pushing it around with like a huge and clanking the spoon and mushy was it was risotto i have no idea i don't know what it was sauce

was brown so i guess it was and i'm not italian so i'm not going to say gravy versus sauce but it looked like beef gravy it looked like barbecue sauce and they looked like ikea meatballs yeah that's uh i don't like that would be enough for me to be like all right you know we're going to do this talk another time yeah i can't do this i need to eat a hamburger with or with uh with patricia but there'll be no bacon on that hamburger because the butler's paralyzed what are you going to do unbelievable hit up sutton go get some bacon oh Sutton's got all the bacon oh yeah all right now that we are you know TikTok relevant we actually have so many comments that we have plenty of questions in the comments so we're going to go through and uh answer some of these bad

boys um first from ariana grinder great name um why why does everyone hate diana can someone explain this to me uh shooter take it away yeah i'd love to um first off she's like an epstein level if not higher sex trafficker we're confirming that right now yeah we got people working on it yep and uh other than that i mean just what she brings to the show for the first eight or so episodes she does absolutely nothing. You have to question why she's even there. And then what she was doing with the whole Sutton thing just made absolutely no sense.

And she is a complete piece of shit. I think that sums it up. There you go, Ariana Grindr. Hopefully that answers your question. This one comes from Sergeant Hot Dog. Why does he always hold the basketball? That's a good one. One, I don't know what to do with my hands.

That's a fair point. To quote my friend Ricky Bobby. What do I do with my hands? But another thing is, I play basketball. Yeah, shooters shoot. I saw it next to me. The first episode that we had this, Steele had two basketball sitting next to me.

I've actually haven't seen Steele shoot a basketball in about 15 years. I'm awful at basketball. But for some reason, he's got two balls over here. So, you know, I got to grab them. Ah, just like Frank and Joe. Our last question for today comes from Dr. Mac Maisel. And it's simply, where have you two been on me? my life and you know what we're here now yeah what's a matter where we've been yeah it's where we

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