Bros & Shows - Jesse Solomon is a 'Touchy' Subject (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

What's up Bros? This is a great season of Summer House. In this episode, Paige deals with major anxiety as the Craig situation is clearly coming to a head. Jesse and Lexi get into an argument because ...Jesse didn't like how Lexi was "flirting" with West... This dude needs to reel it in. Yesterday. West has one of his more relatable episodes as he nurses a hangover from hell. Carl broke the streak up in Montauk last weekend and he and Ciara continue to... bond? Imrul rubs the house the wrong way with the repeat ladies staying over. We agree, maybe play some away games pal. Is there more to him? can we call bad edit? Time will tell. Jesse takes the group to the Hope Lodge at the American Cancer Society in a touching scene that was overshadowed by Jesse "joking" with Ciara not to touch him. This seemed like the last straw for Ciara and hopefully she moves on from these Bravo dudes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:57 That was one of the better summer house episodes I think I've seen in four years. I think that's fair to say. I think we didn't get like weird, edgy types of fights. Like nobody was on edge. I mean, a lot of different things could have boiled over into something else that it shouldn't be. Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:13 And they didn't. And they had fun. And that's what we want to say. Shows, Bros and shows. I gotta have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I gotta have me of my bros and shows
Starting point is 00:01:26 Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only summer goots. What's up, dude? Not a whole lot. I'm feeling the summer love. Yeah, sun's out.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Sun's out. Guns out. So I ripped these bad boys up. Might as well. I don't want to rip. I love this sweatshirt. Yeah, I know. I went for a walk with my mom and my daughter today and Louis around the park.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And it was nice, but it's like you're in that mode or you're convincing yourself, you're not chilly, because you're like, no, no, the wind, it's not that windy, but it's really windy. It's not cold. It's like, it's not cold. It's like, it's not cold. It's been a lot more windy recently, and I wonder if the earth is spinning faster. Probably. Yeah. It's not. It's not. Would we ever know? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we would. I don't know if people would actually tell us the truth.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Big space guy here. Oh, here we go. Let's not do that. Let's not. I mean, like, to be fair. If I was in that sort of position, it's like, if there's an asteroid hurling towards Earth, I'm probably not going to tell anybody. Let them live their lives. They did. There's one that is going to make the closest pass. Yeah, 232.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It will come in between Earth and the moon. There's a 3.4% chance, which has grown from a 1.8% chance. The funny thing is, with me, suck at math, suck at everything. If it's a space fact, logged. Yeah. For example, did you know that we just found the most promising? evidence of life on an exoplanet in KB-1218. No.
Starting point is 00:02:57 So they found, in the atmosphere, they found this gas that comes off that is exclusively seen from marine biology. So like microorganisms in the ocean give off this. It is carbon-based. They assume because the methane, it's MSD, I believe, is the name of the compound that they see in the atmosphere, and that's how they do it. Sounds like a fun party drug. Well, MSD is a great drug.
Starting point is 00:03:19 But the sun hits the atmosphere of the planet. The James Webb Telescope analyzes. is the color of the atmosphere, and that tells you what the, like, elements are in the atmosphere. Wow. And by deducing from that, they, it's like a 97% chance, they say, but that's not enough to declare life on another planet. So now they're doing 18 to 24 additional hours of observation on this planet to decide whether or not there's like.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's a, Katie Perry out there. It's 120 light years away. That would be great. Get rid of her. Don't get me started on that fucking publicity. Nonsense stunt. That was the dumbest shit. And they're all walking around like they're fucking...
Starting point is 00:03:57 The funny thing is, and then we'll get into Summerhouse, there's actual female astronauts that we could be highlighting. That actually do work in space. But instead, we're sending Katie Perry up there with a flower. We as a people, we are not highlighting this. We are ridiculing it. Oh, I know. The media is highlighting it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I don't understand. That's their problem. It makes note. The only highlight... She never told us. The highlight for me was Jeff Bezos eating shit. shit trying to open the door. That made me happy. But the rest of it was so dumb. And they're like, you know what she's saying in space?
Starting point is 00:04:28 I'm like, I don't fucking care. They took a commercial flight just up above the atmosphere and came back down. Pretty much. They didn't fucking colonize Mars. And yet they get out of their kissing the ground. I think Gail King's telling people she's an astronaut now. It's all, like, there's a lot. So yeah. What are we talking about summer house? Summerhouse, yeah. Welcome to space bros. That's my dream. But yeah, let's get into this episode. Sorry for the little tangent there, but we had to address it. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 We start out. We're back at Kyle's event and ending the conversation with Sierra and Paige. And she's feeling guilty and she's feeling really anxious. That's kind of the overlying theme of this episode is Paige's anxiety. Yeah, I think she did a really good job of, not that she has to do this for any of us. But maybe it helped her get through it by talking to the confessional, talking to The Sierra obviously definitely helps. But I thought she did a really good job of portraying exactly what her emotions are.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I knew exactly how she was feeling. Yes. And it's not that we thought otherwise this whole time, but her actually verbalizing it is a completely different thing. And when she said something like, you know, I feel like I finally have everything that I've always dreamed of, and yet I'm still so anxious. Hit me right in the stomach. Oof.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah. That sucks. Yeah. I actually, that's a feeling that that has to resonate with a lot of people. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people. It's just like you finally achieve something that you've been. looking at for a long time and you're like, why am I so anxious? Oh, it's this other thing going on.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Correct. It's like the grass is always greener and then you get there. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's an interesting thing. But that's something that's always been impressive with Paige is her emotional intelligence and her ability to articulate things with a calm, like cool collectiveness about her. I mean, we really haven't seen her go through anything crazy since she's been on the show. And even when she's going through it, like she's still very.
Starting point is 00:06:23 She's always composed, almost to the point where it's like, you can lose it a little bit. Like, let yourself kind of just feel it for a bit. She did. She did this episode. It was actually, it was a very, I know she's going through it, but it was a nice episode for Paige, just because you really felt for her here. Because I feel like up until this point, we're getting the back and forth. We're seeing on Southern Charm what Craig's going through, and obviously he is much more vocal about his emotions.
Starting point is 00:06:48 So you're seeing how this is affecting him. we've seen bits and pieces on Summer House with Paige and how she's going through it because she has talked about it a little bit but you haven't felt that like oh shit it's getting real until this and you like her I think people kind of just half expected it to just come to fruition at some point she's just so cool yeah she's been so cool the whole time it's like all right we have a timeline we know when this is going to happen she's having more and more conversations about it she's letting us know how she feels and everybody's immediately saying yeah okay this makes sense I understand why you guys broke up now and I can kind of picture
Starting point is 00:07:20 it in my head. And then you get an episode like this and you're like, oh, shit. It's a breakup. We're not actually there yet. Right. There's more to be had. And just kind of thought it was already settled. And just because she's so composed all the time does not mean that, oh, it's like a reminder like, oh yeah, this is like a really serious thing
Starting point is 00:07:36 she's about to go through. Yeah, I mean, we also shouldn't be privy to any of this. No. Here we are. Gotta love Bravo. Yep. You got to love Bravo. But nothing made me happier than when they end the conversation and you hear them go, it's 8 o'clock we might as well just stay out i'm like we're going out thank god not only we're
Starting point is 00:07:54 going out we get to watch them go out because i guess they're not in the hamptons we go to just a bar you know what happens they tried to find the outside version of a bed aka a hammock that's fine hammock didn't work that well they rolled right off of that bad boy they sure did sat down talked it out might as well stay out now you can't find a bed out here no no you gave it your best shot but that's another thing go out and do that it's fine if you want to go go She'll in a hammock or go sit by the... It's just the fact that they're out. It just adds to the fun.
Starting point is 00:08:24 There's no shortage of places to sit away from other people while you're out at bars that are close to the beach. There's always little areas that you can go hang out in away from everybody else. And then you have to question what kind of activities have gone on there, you know? I wasn't going to do that. I don't do that. If it's like a weird secluded area at a bar with like a sofa or a, like some kind of love seat arrangement... It depends on the bar.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I don't know, bro. I feel like that bar that bar that they're... were at, and I don't think so. Just a bar? Just a bar, though, yeah. That's what, no, that's what the name of the bar was. Oh. Now I remember that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Fucking LED light. Just a bar. I hate that name. Oh, really? I like that. I don't like it. Oh, interesting. I like, I like this.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I'm just a girl. It's like, a millennial burger spot. Totally. Yeah. Just a burger. Come on down, just a burger. You're not familiar with the Just a brand? We got everything.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Just a burger. Just a chicken. And just a bar. Coming soon. Just a pizza. That's what we need. But yeah, you're right. Like a club type of thing down the shore.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Oh, God, like secrets. Like a way. God, that place. I spend a lot of time. Well, we've talked about secrets a lot on this show. Have we? Every time it comes up, we always go into, like, some. It's hard not to.
Starting point is 00:09:35 It is hard not to because it's disgusting. Yeah, I told you about my night. I've told all of you about that night. It would rain so much that we'd walk around six inches of water. Yeah. God knows what else. Which, honestly, that's the cleanest water that's ever touched that place. But the rainwater?
Starting point is 00:09:46 I don't know. I think eventually it started coming up from things. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Yep. I know exactly. God, I am. What a great time.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'm, I'm eating for a shore bar right now. I am too. I even drink. I love a short bar. You know me though. I love to pal around to the dive bar sober. Absolutely. Number one tavern.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Hell yeah. You can take the drunk out of the dive bar, but you can't take the dive bar out of the drunk. Let's get into them getting home from the just a bar thing. And it was funny to hear Lindsay, you know, here I am at a club pregnant with my ex, celebrating my birthday. I'm going to whoop it up. We get a shout out to Vicky. So she whoops it up.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And then, which, by the way, of course, because of the rumors out there, I'm looking for subliminal messaging. Oh, wow. Whoop it up. Wait. Housewife. Wait. Roney. Wait. Sign?
Starting point is 00:10:34 I'm going to let you have your fun. Thanks. I'm not going to knock you down. That's it. That's the end of it. No, I got you. Okay, cool. She's going to be on Roney now.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Okay. She told us. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I hear you. Well, if we get back to the house. This is indefensible. There's no way to look at it. This is a brutal moment for Jesse because he's standing behind the car.
Starting point is 00:10:57 They're trying to hide from the cameras. He got to love the tenacity of Bravo because I picture somebody like on the sidelines of an NFL game with like that big thing that catches sound, you know, and you hear Jesse getting on Lexi for allegedly flirting with West at the bar. Yeah. What do you think happened at the bar? So nothing really. I think it's probably a tenth of the amount of flirting.
Starting point is 00:11:22 A one hundredth. Yeah. But I will say I feel like at this time, now obviously he doubles down on a little bit later and it's like, all right, never mind. I know what you were doing now. I had that thought in my head where I'm like, okay, are you just trying to do this to like get even the playing field? Get her to stop talking about Sierra, get her to stop talking about the toes sucking, all of those things. Or are you just flat out drunk? because him turning a leaf immediately and walking away and being like,
Starting point is 00:11:50 you know what, I love you. I'm having so much fun. I'm like, he's all over the place. He could just be blacked the fuck out and making zero sense. We'll have to see how he handles this going forward. Seeing how he handled it going forward,
Starting point is 00:12:01 I'm like, oh, you were just trying to play her. You're a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah, there's a shit move. It was slimy as hell. And to try to mask it because I think he's drunk, but I also think somewhere in there,
Starting point is 00:12:12 it popped into his mind that he's being a dick because he's like, ah, you know what? It just makes me so happy. you love the party. Give me a percentage breakdown here. I'm going to give you two things. Okay. One, he's doing it to level the playing field.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Two, he is actually very jealous and closer to Lexi than he thinks he is. 70, 30. Yeah. By the way, I think it's a good chunk. I don't think it's that he's closer. I simply think it's that thing where it's like he sees somebody else with her and he just doesn't like it. I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that he's like, that's my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It's just like the jealousy pride factor of like, well, that's my. woman, but I don't think it equates to how he feels about her. But it's funny because the way that he's been portraying her the whole season, she's very jealous, she's told me that she's very jealous. She doesn't like me commenting on pictures. She doesn't like me doing this or that or whatever. You're doing this. Ironic.
Starting point is 00:13:00 There is some little piece of you that is actually very jealous at the way that she's hanging out with West, the way that she's hanging on him or massaging him or whatever the fuck was going on at that bar, which we don't have footage of. So we can't corroborate. I think there is a big piece of him that is actually very jealous of it. And it's funny to see that because that's very hypocritical. It's the most hypocritical. It's crazy that he went this route.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And then when he gets in bed, like, again, wasted, but he's like literally love bombing her in the moment. But the fact that the sentence, that was way more intense than anything I did last week, and it's like, no. No. No, you flirted way harder than that. You were all over Sierra and you got your toe sucked. She was maybe like friend flirting with your best friend in the house. Yeah. There is no universe in which.
Starting point is 00:13:45 which Lexi even remotely makes a move on West or vice versa. It will simply not happen. You're more likely to hook up with Sierra than she is to hook up with West. Yep. So this whole thing is to hook up with anybody else while she's dating. Period. Like she's not going to cheat on you. She will not.
Starting point is 00:14:01 She is absolutely not going to step out on you. So this whole entire thing was him trying to get to this confessional to say, I feel like this is great because look, she did her thing. I did my thing. Now it's even. And it's like the rationalization of mental gymnastics to get to or even now, you do not belong in a relationship for at least in their 10 years. You have to go figure out some real shit. And I'm not taken away from what he's been through.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Or stepping stones. Just don't let it get to this point the next time that you're in a relationship. Don't say I love you after 11 days. That's the other thing Lexi lets slip. She's like, you know, he says this all the time off camera. I'm like, of course he fucking does. Not in front of other people. Least surprising news ever.
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Starting point is 00:15:58 go get them Starbucks it's never just coffee In rule brings home number five we're reaching the point of too many according to many people in the house and I think that's a respect thing I agree with it yeah I agree with it
Starting point is 00:16:13 Now, we talked about this last week. We don't want Bravo's producers to just kind of paint him as the sex guy in the house. And this is all he does. Can I give you some credit? Well, what? He just, his whole, him and his family just opened up a school for underprivileged kids in Bangladesh. Yeah, he's teaching them English. Why are we not talking about that more?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Well, that just happened, I think. But I think that was in the works. There's no way it just popped up. Yeah, I know. But I think it was in the works. Now, I will say, kind of going against what I had said last week, I think it's leading to the discussion that we have later this episode. I think that's why they were doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:48 That's why they were highlighting it so much. They wanted the check moment. I still don't need the noises. I still don't need the camera thing. I don't need any of that shit. We know what's going on there. We don't need anything else. Unless Jesse's in there and you've got camera footage of him for 37 minutes.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, right. Then we can figure out what's going on there. Otherwise, we know what Emerald's doing in there. I don't need anything else. But I think that's kind of what they were leading up to. So I'm going to back down a tiny bit. So it's a storyline progression. Because if he, if what happens in this episode kind of vaults him forward,
Starting point is 00:17:13 to getting to know the people in the house, to hanging out with them more, to sharing more about his life. That isn't just sex, and, you know, obviously we know all of his, his immigration things and all the things
Starting point is 00:17:22 that came along with his early life. If it gets him to a better place where he is a good component of the house, I understand why they were doing. There's a story arc. Yeah. If there is no arc and it's just this conversation and then he just kind of goes around
Starting point is 00:17:34 and still does it, then, you know. He seems to respect what people said about it. Oh, he definitely does that. He's like, yeah, you know, I'm not sorry, but now that I know it's a problem. I'm like, I think that's a fair, That's all it. But Paige is just kind of shifting around the house at this point.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You know, she had that conversation when I got back where she's, she's so terrified of Craig seeing the conversation that she had with Sierra. She's like, he's going to fucking hate me after this thing. Like, I'm so anxious and blah, blah, blah. So now she's walking around in her room, I guess. I get so confused what room she's in. She just sleeps with Sierra. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Her room is with Sierra. Okay. So she goes to Gabby's room and she's like packing some of her shit. and she's just doing what I've done so many times in the middle of the night when I can't sleep. It's just, like, trying to do something. Finally, finally lays down in bed and you just hear Imrule, like, grunting, fake moaning.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And here's where the respect thing comes in. And this is where I was like, dude, come on. Because she's like, am I allowed to make noise? And he's like, make all the noise, baby. I'm like, no, no, that's too much. Just tell her to know. It's like, let's keep it down out of respect for my roommates. It's like, go outside or something.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Go to the pool house. Oh, yeah. I go to the house. Oh, they got rid of the police? There's probably some space behind the bar, but I'm sure it's just storage. There's a fucking entire storage and spiders. I don't know about you, but I'm not banging anybody in a spider. All right, dude, my bad.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Jesus. But anyway, 530 in the morning, Kyle and West literally almost break the door down because they can't get in. Lindsay comes downstairs, saves the day, opens the door, and Kyle knocks out on a chair. Smart move. So smart. Unbelievable smart move for a drunk guy. So unintentional. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Just found a seat. I don't know if it was. He's done this before. I think he just saw a seat and was like, I'm going to take a sec. And just... He was munching too. Chowing down. I think he sat on the seat.
Starting point is 00:19:27 It was smart because if he walks into the room and wakes up Amanda, that's an immediate fight. That 530 arrival at home is crazy. That made me... It made me happy. It made me hungover. It made me a little anxious. Yeah. Because I immediately think like, oh, you're...
Starting point is 00:19:41 And the Uber on the way back, you start to hear the birds. The sun's kind of, like, creep in a little bit. Nope, I'm out. There's the brief moment where you're like, oh, it's nice. And you're like, oh, fuck, it's tomorrow. Yeah. My day's ruined. God.
Starting point is 00:19:53 You get an Uber, and the Uber driver's like, good morning. It's like, oh, no. Easy, pal. Settle down. Don't even speak to me. First off. I clicked the choice to not talk to you, sir. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. The weight, that stuff, unless you just get home and just start drinking again. And then the next day's fun. sometimes. Yeah. But yeah, no, that made me
Starting point is 00:20:15 legitimately like that feeling of... And your choices are at that point knowing what's happening tomorrow with the brunch too. Choices are staying up
Starting point is 00:20:23 or sleeping for two hours. Sometimes that's worse because then you wake up really hugged over. Especially sleeping the way that he was sleeping at his age? I know.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Well, here's what I give Kyle. He bounces back like nobody else. Yeah. Like he gets up and he can be out until 5.30. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:20:40 He was like, coherent he was bopping he had a little coffee west he was not coherent no but then he got it together like i'm west yeah i'm that i'm like fuck everything fuck everybody drop that suitcase on my head please like i can't handle this whole thing but amanda comes to wake him up she has his location not surprising so she knew where he was i loved how she handled it because it's the disappointed parent like he knows what he did yep doesn't need anything from me and he's going to act a certain way today. And if he doesn't, I will step in and check him.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But I think he's got the gist. She handled it perfectly. It was absolutely perfect. And we haven't really seen much of this in the past. Maybe this just goes to show you where they are in their relationship and their marriage. Correct. We saw them come back from Italy. They were very lovey-dovey.
Starting point is 00:21:30 She let this go. Yeah, obviously she did text him at 4 a.m. But, you know, who wouldn't? Yeah, where the fuck are you? Seeing his location, knowing where he is, whatever. Now he's back home, sleeping, let him go, wake up at 7. 30, very lightly wake him up. Don't say a word, just lightly wake him up.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Let him ask some questions, and then... And don't respond, just kind of walk away. My favorite is the middy wakes up. He goes, are you doing brunch here? Yeah. You're doing brunch here? It was a good seat. It was good.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It's a good moment. Also, I've never seen that room in that house before. I haven't either. I know it was there. Off the kitchen on that side? When she walked into the living room, I was like, he's there, where did he go? It's like watching like the Simpsons or family guy. You're like, where the fuck is this room?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, literally, when she walked out into the living room, I expect to see him in a chair in the living room. That's where I thought it was. I thought it was a secondary room off of the living room, and I'm like, all right, that kind of makes sense. Back behind the kitchen? Didn't know. Didn't know. It's a sunroom. Yeah. That's where I would be.
Starting point is 00:22:23 All the time. It looks like a nice room. Honestly. Yeah, I was surprised as you were. But we get Jesse's wake up. And again, in a confession, he's like, I feel like West and Alexi, they just went too far. And, you know, I think this levels the playing field. I'm not going to say anything because I just want to be on good terms.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's like, you don't get to say anything. One, you're too drunk to remember what happened. Two, because of your flirting with Sierra, she could have kissed West on the neck. That's still not too far. Because you kissed Sierra on the neck multiple times after falling on top of her in a pool. Lexi is Scott free.
Starting point is 00:22:59 You are not on the same playing field. You are still a piece of shit. She, all she did, I'm trying to picture the night. Here's the thing. Notice how he says all of this to Lexi, says all of this to the confessional. It doesn't say word to West. Correct.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Actually, he jokes around with West. It's like, so you're not actually upset. Because if you were, you'd have the same energy for him as you would with Lexi. But he shouldn't be. No, I know he shouldn't be. He's an idiot. The fact that he thinks this is even remotely the same thing. And my biggest thing there is you took Lexi behind a car to give her or talking to.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And you fucking laughed at your buddy throwing up instead of like, yo, bro, what the fuck was that? So you're not actually mad about it. So shut up. Yep. And Lexi, run. Run. But that's too late. I know.
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Starting point is 00:25:15 No idea. That's Gigley money. Yeah. Yeah, she got that giggly school money. She gets the Uber Blade. Yeah. Oh, man. You know, that's actually not, like that's a viable.
Starting point is 00:25:24 If you have five people, I'm never going to get in a helicopter my entire life. But if you have like six people, it's not ridiculous. They did that for, uh, in Rooney. Yeah. Yeah. They took it up there and I think you can spend like less than $100 to like chopper out of NYC, which sounds like a good deal to me. Minus the dying part probably, because I don't trust helicopters at all.
Starting point is 00:25:44 I'm, like, I'm upset that I've been on helicopters in my life before. I've been on, like, two. I've been on two, and I'm, like, bummed. Never. Not, never again. I'll let you know how it goes. What do you want me to say at your funeral? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I meant, like, I'm going to let you know when we're very, very old how my life was without being a shopper. I don't care. Yeah. I don't care. You said you're bummed out because you were on it twice. Yeah. I'm going to tell you what it's like to live a life without me.
Starting point is 00:26:09 No, I get it. I understand the premise that you're saying, at that point in our lives, we're going to be at the pearly gates and when we get our stats. Me? Me? At the pearly gates, we're going to get our stats because that's what happens when you get to heaven. They give you your stats of everything that you want. The fuck are you two doing here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And I'm going to be like, put our lives side by side and see who's happier because they weren't on a helicopter. Because just because of that. Because of the helicopter stats only. Yeah, and then they're going to point to the left. There's the stairs to hell, dick, I'd see you. here. Nice try. It was a mistake. Nice try, guys. You guys have one shot. Yeah, and you fucking blew it. But anyway, back to Page and Sierra. They're both, you know, over this whole Imrule banging thing,
Starting point is 00:26:48 and it's getting to the point where you've got to have some respect for the house, which I agree with. And while they're talking, we're checking into the kitchen. That's where Imrule, Amanda Lexi, and they're getting ready for Lindsay's birthday brunch. And they start chit-chatting a little bit. And what I loved, and I called this, I knew this was going to happen, and I'm very happy that it did during the night out before. Lindsay went up to Carl and acknowledged the day of his brother passing, said, you know, I'm thinking about you, and I know this is a big day. The only two sober people in the entire house too. So it wasn't even what you may have thought, like, obviously Lindsay's pregnant, but like I could see Lindsay drunkenly doing that.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Sure. But she went over there, full head of steam, completely sober, he's sober, chatting it up, having a very nice exchange after what we watched, which was, I don't even know, was that the night before? That might have been that. I think it was the night before. I don't know. No, it was the night before.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It was. Yeah, it was because they went to Kyle's thing instead. So, yeah, I mean, after what we watched last night, how quickly that diffused, and then we get this. It's nice. Obviously, we know how Carl feels, and it means a lot to him that she came over and said something. I would have liked a little bit more from Carl in the confessional.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Like, you know, this is kind of nice. I agree, but the fact that he acknowledged it was nice. Yeah. I thought it was funny that when he was telling Sierra about. about it, he's like, and I said, happy birthday. And she's like, that's tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, you got to do that. That's good.
Starting point is 00:28:09 There's still a little snideness there, but the underlying thing that will always remain with these two, and I truly believe this, is because of their friendship for so long, they're always going to care about each other. Yeah, for sure. And I love that she was able to put things aside and like, hey, I'm thinking about you, and he could accept that. So it's nice to see. I love, I love watching them get along with still a little bit of tension, you know, not
Starting point is 00:28:31 sexual. Do you think they have a marriage pact? No, boy. If we're both 50. If we're both 45, and I'm not with... Holy shit. Carl's going to be that baby step dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Wouldn't that be the best thing ever? God, that would be incredible. I'm not putting that out of possibility. Yeah, I'm putting it out there in hopes that it happens. I'm saying it's kind of similar to my Kyle and Mo theory. Honestly, that would be the most feel-good story. If they're happy together, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:00 If they both get to a place in their life where they're, like, ready to come back together, sure. But I'll tell you who else I really enjoy together More and more each week is Carl and Sierra There's just something there that doesn't make sense Not romantic for me, but I like them as friends Because they were really close And Carl talks about that too in his confessional He misses that
Starting point is 00:29:18 She reached out, you know, when What was it? I guess it was when his brother died, right? I think so, yeah She reached out to a bunch during all of that So he's working on getting that friendship We know from the trailer That he takes a little too far
Starting point is 00:29:31 Or maybe it doesn't We have no idea because now I'm really confused because they did that with Sierra saying outside about Imral I'm like damn that's a little strong Sierra I want to get back off a little bit I thought I was really mean about it
Starting point is 00:29:46 and then we go we get to that scene and Emerald's not there yeah and then when he does come out and we ultimately have that conversation it's still not as gentle as you know like it was fine it's still worked out fine but with this now I'm questioning everything because we saw that scene in the trailer
Starting point is 00:30:01 where Carl looks at Sierra and says yeah You know, I've always had a bit of a crush on you. Did he actually say that to her? Was he talking to a tree afterwards? Was he, like, rehearsing? I don't know. That wasn't this scene. No, I'm talking about later in the trailer, we see that.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know what happens, but I like them together. I don't like them romantical at all. Romantic? I don't know. There's something about it that's just because it doesn't make sense. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Friends, absolutely. I think Carl needs friends. I think Sierra needs friends. of the guy persuasion that aren't romantic yeah i agree with that i agree with that especially in the house yeah i i i just do this every year with sierra i do think that this episode could be the final like i'm done with bravo guys i think it was after the jesse shit yeah and i've got feelings about all of that too at the ends but um but yeah it's i like them we'll see we'll see but we get to emeral's questioning and sierra's like what the fuck's going on dude and he's
Starting point is 00:31:03 like, I'm just having fun, you know, and she's like, you got to respect the house. She lays down the ground rules a little harsher than I think it needed to be because he's not actively trying to like, fuck your weekend up. He's just trying to boink a little bit. Yeah, but I think that it's one of those things where they've made comments about it and a lot of the girls have made comments about it, like what's going on here, like what's happening. And he's been very open about it, which, you know, we always appreciate. But you would have hoped that at some point it's like, oh, yeah, like maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:32 they do keep making comments. about it. Maybe I do need to, like, play an away game, as Jesse says. That's the best advice that he got. It was the best advice that he got. Maybe I do need to like settle down a little bit because I don't want to rub anybody the wrong way. You also don't want to be that guy. No. I appreciate that he is very unapologetically himself, but like you don't want to be like the gross dude. Yeah. You don't want you unapologetically being yourself to affect other people's lives. Correct. And now people like, they're not sleeping. And all the, even the dudes in that I was like, yeah, bro, like, it's a little much.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. And so I like that. It went from jealousy in a lot of their camps to, it's hard to defend at this point. Take a weekend off or, you know, go to their place. I think that's the best. Go play some away games was the best advice he could have gotten there. But I like how he handled it.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He's like, I'm not sorry because this wasn't a ground road before, but now that I know, I will respect the boundaries. We'll see how that plays out. But we get back to Paige and Sierra to end this conversation about her anxiety. And, you know, Sierra's crying. Page is crying. like, Craig's going to freak out on me. I'm just so affraising.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I'm going to be like, you're such a fucking bitch. All this stuff is, like, heartbreaking to hear because she's, again, she's so good at compartmentalizing when you see her actually start to fall apart. You're like, I forget that you're going through such serious shit because you're so cool all the time. Really good way to put it. It's just, it's actually, there's something endearing about seeing her finally be like, I'm going through it right now.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah. And I think she alludes to it as well. She's like, because of this tour, my chance. job. She's like, I don't have time. I don't have time to focus on this shit. And I hope that what comes from it, too, is, you know, us sitting here having this conversation, even me saying in the beginning that you kind of forget, like, you're saying right now, you're like, I kind of forget that you're going through something that's very emotional. She's so strong. I'm saying, you know, I kind of just expected it to be like that, what we've seen for the last few episodes, until you guys
Starting point is 00:33:20 eventually break up. And then it's like, okay, you guys are done, whatever. To watch her actually break down, I'm hoping that what that does is send a bit of a shockwave through the Bravo community that's fucking obsessed with finding out did she cheat on him? What's Craig doing now? Like just let it lie up. This is the most human that we've seen page in a very long time.
Starting point is 00:33:39 You can now see that she's emotional. You can see how this is affecting her. You've seen how it's affected Craig. Let's just back off. Leave them along. If new information comes out because one of them wants to talk about something or there's new information
Starting point is 00:33:50 because somebody else is talking about something, fine. Talk about it, do it whatever you want. But enough of the judgey. Stop digging for shit that's not there because two people broke up. Stop digging for shit that's not there because you're bored with your own life. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Like it literally has gotten to the point now where it's like, could you lean one side of the other? If you feel like it, sure. I don't give a fuck. If you like one person or another, fine. I don't care. But don't dig. Just leave them alone. Like it's so, it's played out at this point.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And to see Paige have these moments, I've, yeah, it took me, took me by surprise. Because again, I'm just like, she's never like that. So I'm glad that she was able to show some emotion. Oh, wait, I can cheer you up. Did you watch Hannah do the work? him on the Tonight Show? Nope. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I did not. You should watch that. That'll cheer you off. I will watch. I'll give that. I'll give that a watch. Thanks. It didn't cheer me up.
Starting point is 00:34:35 That didn't. That kind of stuff makes me happy. It makes you sad. But again, Paige is just kind of getting through it all. She's nervous that she's going to break up and that he's going to be better off without her. And that famous line that you already commented on, I'm afraid that everything that I have, everything I've worked so hard to get, to get to this point in my life is going to go away. And that's calling out to this image that has been created of Page and Craig. That's not even two separate people.
Starting point is 00:35:08 One entity, Paige and Craig, has turned into this fantasized relationship that all of us were rooting for, you and I included, to the point that we forgot. This is a relationship. Relationships have problems along the way. Sometimes they're irreconcilable. That's what happened here. I think that one party handled this whole thing better that party being page
Starting point is 00:35:30 and I think that you're seeing the cracks come from that in real human emotions and one more time to your point everyone leave her alone stop and like the fact that people are upset about the fact that she went to an Eagles game a month after she broke up with Craig
Starting point is 00:35:46 with a dude she wasn't dating who fucking cares what's your timeline everybody when's it okay for people to get over other people I think that's the other thing that can come from this watching her break down. Right. You're like,
Starting point is 00:35:58 she didn't cheat. No. Leave it alone. Why would anyone ever think that? People always think they're cheating. Why? Anytime that people break up. The only evidence we have, by the way,
Starting point is 00:36:08 is she's coming out in a vulture magazine now saying that she saw Craig texting hearts. But she even says, I don't know what the nature of that text message was. It could have been platonic. But she did see that. Texting hearts? To somebody, to an unknown woman. Female?
Starting point is 00:36:24 To a woman. Okay. I mean, there's a big problem with texting hearts in general. Who the fuck text hearts? I text hearts sometimes. You're the people I love? Sorry. That made you feel.
Starting point is 00:36:35 My heart messages. I know. You're a dick. Like an emoji heart? Do you ever do the heart hands? All the time. I think they're funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I do them ironically. That's okay. Yeah, I comment a lot of times you'll see in our comments. If someone makes a shitty comment. Oh, yeah. I always hit them with the heart hands. It's my new thing. Instead of responding, I give sarcastic Britney heart hands.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yep. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Thanks for reminding me. about, Brittany. I've heard there's trouble in Paradise in Roslick, by the way. Oh, dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Well, we'll talk about that on our news episode. But let's get back to it because now we're at Lindsay's birthday brunch and she's curious how Turner's going to celebrate her birthday because, look, she judges dudes based on how they treat her birthday. That's fine. Everybody teach their own, I suppose, but... I've already talked about that. Let's get back to New York.
Starting point is 00:37:23 We need to talk about this dynamic. I need your opinion on this dynamic because I would imagine I'm a little more sympathetic to it than you are. Lexi, her mom, and her sister. What are your thoughts and feelings on this tripod?
Starting point is 00:37:38 If it was... No, I can't even do it that way. I have no issues of it. Oh, good. No, I have no issues with it at all. I think it's nice. I like to see families... That's kind of what I thought.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I get there's a little... Are people bragging on it? There's a little weirdness to it. I think people are putting out there where it's like the codependency thing where it's like oh you guys can't even be away from each other like her and her sister moved in together now mom moves in now they're all sleeping in the same bed like sisters are in terms of like how close people are how close siblings can be i'm not telling you how i feel about i'm saying this is some of the i don't get yeah i don't really get
Starting point is 00:38:14 it leave families alone who the fuck cares um i think the people that comment negatively on stuff like this are people that weren't loved fair that's genuine it's now two comments that we've made about people comment on stuff because their life is boring. Yeah. So. They were saying they weren't loved. Yeah. So if you don't like this scene, you weren't loved.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I didn't really care for the scene. I'm just saying, like, with their dynamic. Yeah, her sister moved in with her. She moved from Toronto. Perfect, fine, great. They hang out all the time. Like, mom stays there a lot. Like, if they're not sick of each other, then who cares?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah, if you're cool, who cares? None of our business. That's my whole deal with it. There were multiple scenes where she's just, like, ripping her sister because she's tired of her, then, yeah, I would be annoyed. with it. The interesting takeaway from the scene is the family's take on Jesse. They're all enamored with this guy.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Even after she, like, Lexi's told them what's going on. Oh, I fully know that she's told them like 100% of what's happened. Why are they cool with him? No idea. If that was my sister, I'd be like, fuck no. Yeah. does he love bomb the family too. Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:39:28 Where's the dad? Get the dad involved. Where is the dad? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, but I don't like it. That's the one thing about this I didn't like was their reaction to what Jesse's doing. I don't agree with that part of it.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But as far as their dynamic, I don't really. I thought you were going to have a problem with it. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really care either. But we get to the American Cancer Society, Hope Lodge, which is an amazing place that they allow you to stay there for free if you're going through chemotherapy or any kind of treatment in New York City. So Jesse is giving back to the community Now that he is cancer-free
Starting point is 00:39:59 He's going there to serve some food With the other summer house peeps And you get a little Sierra and Carl talk And look, she drove him to Montauk I called this the Montauk scene Because they're talking about Montauk Yep, I see what you did that Not Mom Talk
Starting point is 00:40:16 Oh, not Mom Talk? Mon Talk. If we say Mom Talk too many times You're going to forget what that show's called So secret lives of Mormon wives I finally, what did I keep calling it? No idea. Secret moms or something.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Secret moms of Mormons or something? Secret moms of Mormons. For the life of me, it was lost. Coming back on April 24th. Oh, really? 27th. It's the end of the month. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Never mind. I'm thinking of Manor on Bill. Disregard everything I just said. Villa's the end of the month. Love Hotel. Bill is the 24th. Love Hotel's the 27th. Mom talk is May or June.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah. So we got it coming up. Make, oh my God, if you're listening to this and you haven't watched this first season, go watch it so you're ready I promise you on both villa and mom talk you will not be disappointed it is totally
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Starting point is 00:41:15 yeah whoa come on Hulu you know who we are now you send us a box guys look Mr. Hulu We would love it. A very presumptuous of you to think that a man owns it. Damn, that was good. That was really good.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Shit. Look, Hulu, we would love to be sponsored by you. How about that? That works. Damn it. Now they're not going to sponsor us. They think I'm a misogynist. Shit.
Starting point is 00:41:40 There goes that. But let's get back to Hope Lodge and serving these meals with the Mon Talk, as I said. And Carl met a girl. Carl broke the streak. Good for Carl. Love to see that. Sierra stoked for us. The Montauk trips always are very curious for me.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah, right? They go on Sundays. Like, I know most of them don't have real jobs. What happens in Montauk? It begs that question for me. It was. The one time we've been there. It was not good because that was Carl and Lindsay, like, at their worst.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah. We went there for one night out, too. We did go there for one night out. And then we went for, like, the day drinking when Carl and Lindsay were on the stairs yelling at each other. I always used to think that they would go out to Montauk, like, during the day, during like, peak traffic hours to, like, go grab some dinner, grab some food, maybe a drink or two, and then they go back to New York.
Starting point is 00:42:27 That's what I would think. The traffic died down, but... Oh, no, that's just you. You're weird with that shit. You're the guy that, like, stays the day at the, like, the getaway day? My fault that you cut your weekend short by leaving at, like, 7 a.m. on a Sunday. No, bro. Once...
Starting point is 00:42:40 I go to the beach all day. Why? Because then you go, like, the day, you know you have to leave. Dinner with my family. What do you hate my family? I have no issues with your family. I'm saying that if I know that I'm leaving that day, I can't enjoy the day. It just hangs.
Starting point is 00:42:52 over my, I'm like, I would rather get up at like 6.30, hit the road, get home to my house, and then end my day that way, rather than have a whole day. I'd rather be at the beach to my house, then pack, then drive, then get home at eight or nine, and I'm tired. I've been on the beach. I'm sanding. I got a shower. Then I get, no, no. A lot of times now I'll just stay over Sunday night and then go home Monday morning. That's different. That's a different thing. I'm okay with that. If you're sleeping there, it changes the whole day. I don't mind driving the night, though. It has nothing to do with it. I can't see when I drive at night. So can I? I don't have night blindness.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Rusty-assed. I have 2015 vision. Do you know what that means? Yeah, things that are 20 feet away look like they're 15. I used to have 2010 vision. I had the best vision in the Orioles organization
Starting point is 00:43:32 so you can eat my butt. Had? No, it's still, I have not been progressed at all. Well, that probably at this point, yeah. You know, it's been a while. But they haven't faded. I can read that calendar right,
Starting point is 00:43:44 right fucking now if it wasn't upside down. I also feel like it's the calendar that's been on like March 24 for, It's on the back. No, it's on the back. It's my dog pooping calendar that Dev got me. Oh. Yeah, I have that and a mullet calendar that she got me. Nice. I know.
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Starting point is 00:45:44 Offers to drive them again, I'm just saying, breadcrumbs. Friendship. relationship. God, dude, I don't want her to date anybody on Bravo. I know. I just,
Starting point is 00:45:56 there's something. That would be, I'm sorry, but that would be worst case scenario for me. What? Watching Sierra and Carl date on Summer House.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It sounds so good. Ruined it for me. It sounds so good. No. I want it to happen. He starts calling her babe. It's not going to have. Well,
Starting point is 00:46:12 that would be my line. That would be a line. Okay. I can agree. If that came, if it was a babe relationship, I'm out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I'm out. But, Look, it's not going to happen, so let's all relax, relax. You're sweating. Make a breath. It's not going to happen. I'm just saying there's something cute about these two. But regardless, Sierra and Jesse, let me, let's make it awkward real quick.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Sierra makes a joke. Ha-ha, light graze of the arm. Don't touch me. Wasn't the late graze of the arm? It was a lean-in. It was a fucking handhold. It was a lean-in. This is- Who set the tone?
Starting point is 00:46:45 Jesse did. But this is also leading into my theory, not theory, but like, my issue, like the whole thing. And it's not just, and I was going to save it for the end. This is obviously, yeah, I know, but it was more so when Sierra is sitting there with Paige and Amanda. Oh, at the very end. Because that's actually more information, so I will still save it for the end.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But still. You tease. You dirty little tease. Dirty little tease. Yeah, no, I fully agree with you. The fact that he did that, the fact that he said it that loud and that. Oh, Sierra. Noxious.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I know. Like a fucking middle schooler. Here's the fucking thing. same thing with what you probably should have said to lexie or you probably should have just left that one alone same thing that goes across the board for a lot of people in this house why do you have to do it like that why can't you after having a conversation with your girlfriend who you love or so you tell her why can't you then go to sierra and this would probably be a huge fucking boost in lexie's book if you were to be able to go to sierra and say look i always appreciate our friendship we're always going to be friends
Starting point is 00:47:46 we do have to dial it back a little bit with the flirting. I apologize for pushing it, whatever. If Sierra has a weird reaction to that and gets pissed off about it, different story. That's kind of on her. That's a different story. You let her down. You have a relationship.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Go focus on that. But look, I don't want anything to really change here. We just can't be like all touchy, feely, whatever. You don't do this in the middle of the cancer society. No. Fucking Hope Lodge? We're going to do this shit? We're going to do this shit?
Starting point is 00:48:12 Absolutely not. Beautiful place. Damn right. For beautiful people. Damn right. And you're going to do this to her right now? not. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Fucking bullshit. Not standing for it. I won't either. I think it's a good point. I think that this could have been handled drastically different. Yep. Like you just said. He tried to do it in like a jokey tone, but like it was kind of serious.
Starting point is 00:48:28 It was serious because he's also like testing waters. Like he's doing so many things here. Things at once. Yeah. And I hate it. I thought it was gross. And I think that her reaction was 100% valid, 100% warranted. And I do think that was the last straw for Bravo dudes and Sierra.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I do think that after this, she's like, fuck these guys because... All you had to do was be a grownup, talk to your friend. It could be kind of awkward because there is clearly something there. But you pushed it. You pushed this shit. You have an issue. Also, I guarantee you if Lexi wasn't there in the room. Wouldn't have said a word.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Wouldn't have done it. No. You have an issue with her touching your arm. You fell on her in the pool, my guy, multiple times. You said that her foot on your knee was turning you on. Yep. The double standard. is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And I hope that he watches this and watches his dumb confessionals. And he's like, uh, oops, I'm dumb. Don't do that in my next relationship. I don't think you will, but hopefully.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I guess we'll find out. Time will tell. But the sentiment of the day is not lost. Like his speech, I thought was really moving. It is cool to see him get back up from, from his cancer journey and share with these other people. And you can tell that what he said resonated
Starting point is 00:49:42 because people are crying a little bit. And that was a nice scene. I don't want to take away from the sentiment of everything. But Sierra Page and Amanda sit down to end this bad boy and talk about Emeril. They're just over the boys in general. And I guess Craig came over Sunday to Page's house. And they did have, it sounded like a relatively constructive conversation, but it also to me, it was like. Sort of like a pre-breakup conversation.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. Yeah. It almost felt like they got two different things from the conversation. I think so, yeah. Because she made it clear to him. And again, she's always, she's so fucking composed because she's like, you're valid and your feelings. Like, I get where you're coming from.
Starting point is 00:50:25 You want to just spend more time. That's a sweet sentiment. But lack of acknowledging the tour and how big of a deal it is is a really big issue. Craig says you understands. But where it loses me, I understand and I'm sorry, but I miss you. It's like, dude, in that specific. time frame she knows she knows so just say you know what i've been selfish i haven't been thinking big picture of course i'm excited for you go have the best time i'll be here when you get back and then
Starting point is 00:50:56 because you've been so annoying about it don't even ask to come visit her yeah if she wants you to come she will text you or call you just let her go do her thing and then she would come back with a totally different viewpoint of this relationship all he's doing really and i think this is leading up to it all of her questions all of her i don't know he's confirming yeah one after the other after the other yeah pretty much but they start talking about jesse's event and the arm touch and that you know jesse's the fucking problem and he is the problem and sierra's done she's like he has some fucking nerves to tell me not to touch him and you get the montage of him touching her i can't dude i that's why i said the beginning of the episode the lexy shit was indefensible this is indefensible
Starting point is 00:51:39 it's like indefensible for sure we have video foot footage of you overstepping way further than Sierra ever did. And you're going to tell her, don't touch me? Yeah. So when it comes to this, and like I agree with everything that Sierra said. Is it theory time? Theory time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I agree with everything that Sierra said. Fully. I fully get the sentiment of you've pushed it so far and now what? You're just going to stop. You can look at it a couple ways. The way that I kind of felt while watching that was she really likes Jesse. I think she likes him. She's really into him and doesn't really give a shit about Lexi and hasn't.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And for the most part, and it looks like things will change a little bit, at least from like Paige and Amanda's perspective, but we don't really see Sierra talking to Lexi about it. I don't think she cares about Lexi. I think she really likes Jesse and would want to give it a go with Jesse under the right circumstances. I think this was a, oh, you're going to tell me to do this?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Like, I'm going to be done. But there was way more feeling in it. It wasn't just a, that was embarrassing for me. seriously you're going to call me out like if she kept it that I'd be like all right yeah no I feel you that's that's kind of how I felt during the scene instead it was a all of those things that you've done it was like you've led me on
Starting point is 00:52:51 he did and now you're going to tell me no but he's a girlfriend at the same time yes it is still in Jesse's I'm not this doesn't exonerate Jesse whatsoever this just goes in line with again I come back to it stop Sierra just knock it off go date somebody else you go date someone outside of
Starting point is 00:53:10 Bravo. Stop dating guys in the house. It doesn't ruin my show. It doesn't ruin my viewing experience. It ruins your show. It ruins your time in the summer house. Yeah. Because... Go have fun. Yeah, dude. Like, Sierra... Stop getting caught up with these douchebags. Sierra going out and doing a thing would be fun to watch, just to watch or mix it up. And also, dude, like, you could go date probably any dude. Anybody you want. Literally. Yeah. Like, that's not a secret, you know? But... It's just way too much butt hurt in that. And I'm like, uh...
Starting point is 00:53:38 There, she was definitely a little... You could tell. it was more than like, I'm mad at my friend. There was definitely some letdown there. I agree with you there. And he has been leading her on, of course. And he's in a relationship while leading her on, which is disgusting. By the way, if she had ever wanted to take it to the next level, in a heartbeat, he wouldn't even have remembered Lexi's name. If she wanted to do it last week, then he would have.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Immediately. Like, wouldn't have hesitated and then would have been like, oops, and would have tried to backpedal his way out of it. But, like, yeah, it's not on Sierra, but I do see what yours. I think that it hurt a little bit more than, uh, than we thought. thought it would. Yeah. But let's get to some questions. First one up here, we have to address this right away.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Glenda the Granny. They need to reboot. They don't need to reboot. Summer House? Not every show needs to reboot Glenda. We need to put... Is this our fault? We have to put the word probably, because we did that for a little while.
Starting point is 00:54:28 We went through that phase. We need to put the word reboot on pause. Okay? We need to think of more pragmatic ways to put these shows together. Here's why, because we were on that train until they rebooted Roney and it didn't go well so the full reboot doesn't work atlanta has done a much better job potomac did a solid job there's something to be said about the main cast still needing to be a part of the show i don't know who sent this question and i'm going to try to figure it out oh sean chang uh
Starting point is 00:54:58 isn't it hypocritical of page to be criticizing emerald sex capades when she hooked up with carl in the communal pantry slash everybody hooks up at a shared house the sex shaming is wild age age age what age that they're at now is not when Carl I'm not even saying Matt I'm just saying like them making by the way Carl and Paige never had sex they just made out all the time in the pantry who the fuck cares I don't Emeril is on number five it seems like every weekend
Starting point is 00:55:27 plus the threesome less it's fucking loud and obnoxious he deserves it's not sex shaming it's respect it's clean it up a little bit yeah they're not even telling him like hey don't hook up anymore Or it's just like, hey, we all live here. We all spend so much time here. You're bringing strangers back to the house, which, yeah, there's producers there. So if anything gets weird, obviously, anything will change. But it's more of a respect thing.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Like, hey, it's fucking loud and obnoxious. Can you just, like, tone it down a little bit? So I think, again, like, if you're, like, in your early 20s, it doesn't probably bother you as much. As like, if you're 34, 35 or 40, and you're like, I'm trying to fucking sleep and you're just hearing a headboard at 3 in the morning, I would be fucking here. Yeah, I'd be furious. I would pull a Jesse, but I wouldn't get my toe sucked. I would just yell at the door. I mean, where are you doing?
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah, shut up. You're going to suck my toe? Oh, damn it. Got him again. This is going to make you happy from C. Marie 23. Maybe a little conspiracy theory, but do you think Sierra is the girl that Carl hooked up with in Monta? No. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:56:24 It's definitely not. No. Sorry to burst your bubble over there, C. Marie, but... Love the conspiracy. Love the tinfoil hat moment, but no, absolutely not. Yeah. um from diana jerry thoughts on lexie and her fam getting camera time but not gabby i don't know what's going on gabby yeah i don't know she doesn't do anything you know
Starting point is 00:56:46 the door's not closed on gabby but like i don't like if she's getting a bad edit we'll probably hear about that at some point we get good info on bad edits season and like i couldn't tell you one thing about gabby i was excited about gabby the beginning of the season when she's like i got my roster i'm doing this and doing that it seems like she was kind of like putting it together and not really do it. But now it's just like... I don't really know. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And I will say we tend to get some... A little nugget here and there when it comes to the edits on things. So we might get more info for you guys. Stay tuned. Yeah. I'll do two more here from Mad Walb. I'm low-key obsessed with Lexi and her boundary.
Starting point is 00:57:24 She's grown so much. What do you think? I think so, too. Honestly, she was annoying when we first started, but that was the Jesse situation. Yeah, I think that she's, you know, I like that she's very clear about what she wants. I like that she sets her boundaries, and I like that when the boundaries are crossed, she will discuss it. Now, you know, I feel bad that she's getting the run around from a dude like Jesse, so she's falling.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Like, the fact that we didn't even address that, that she's like, I'm trying to speed up to meet him on his level. I'm like, he's doing the same thing to you. This is a toxic relationship in the making, especially given the fights that we've seen. So, yeah. But I do, yeah, I like Lexi a lot. I think that she got a bad rap early on, but she's grown on me. Yeah, she's grown on. And last one here from RM Lays, please tell me that you noticed Kyle's fly was down while he was sleeping on the chair.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I did. Sure did. Yep. Bravo made sure to highlight it. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. That camera angle was intentional. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Yep. Yep. At least he peed and he didn't, like, pee himself. Yeah. Yeah, silver lining. You think, you don't know. You have no idea. Them pants could have dried.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's a good point. Because he could have undone the zipper thinking that his pants were down. because we wouldn't be able to see that chair again. I know, right? Go to that room. Well, he sat down with the fly open. So, again, that there's definitely a world in which he unzipped his pants but didn't pull them down thinking that they were pulled down and then... That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:58:43 You know? Yeah. That was never my thing, believe it or not. Being in yourself? Yeah. With how fucked up I was for years, I never peed my pants. Good. Yeah.
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