Bros & Shows - Jesus, Whiskey & Dr. Ken Lickin' Ears (RHOA Full Recap S17 Finale)

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

What's up bros?? What a breath of fresh air this season of Atlanta has been all the way to the end. This is how you carry momentum to the end of the season instead of checking out post-cast trip like other franchises have been doing. We tie up loose ends, talk HOA fees regarding a fake HOV and Drew decides now is the time to finally drop a DM bomb because time was running out and it's Drew. Rolling right into the reunion with good vibes for us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What a delightful finale to a delightful season. know we had a little hiccup in the middle of the season that we discussed, but I love this season overall. I thought they did a great job. I think it's been two years since we've gone this long without complaining about a HouseWave franchise. And that really means something to us. It really does. I can't remember what the last one was. I'm sure it was like a Salt Lake a couple years ago or Miami maybe even. But yeah, two full years without complaining about a housewave show. And Atlanta, they have like 12 straight episodes, not one. complaint from us. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be...

Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Scooter McGee. What's up, dude? What's going on with Dr. Ken? I got to talk about right away.

Ken's back. Yeah, to a back back. I don't, I think he wants to hang around wherever he goes. Dr. Ken, uh, I believe he's married. I do believe he is as well. Yeah. Maybe not anymore after his wife saw this episode.

But we've seen Dr. Ken in action. uh we were not fans he was i think the first therapist that we saw on bravo which perked our ears up and went huh it drew and ral he supposed to be doing this for tv what's up i think it's true and ralph yeah yeah i remember that yeah i don't know what do you this is kind of interesting but what do you think he looks like with an iron man mask on oh do you think he's jarvis no i don't I just thrown it out there. It seems like the type. Wait a minute.

Hey, now. No, I was actually really confused because we've been seeing so many clips about the reunion just over the last week, which is very weird for Bravo. Usually you don't see that many clips from a reunion or really any of the shows that they do. They don't promote anything. They've kind of just done away with marketing and promoting in general. So it's very odd when you see like an influx of different scenes. Usually you see one scene and you're like, all right, everybody's just kind of running with this.

They have their opinion on whatever. we saw a lot from the Atlanta reunion to the point where I even forgot that we still hadn't gotten to the finale. I was expecting the reunion when I watched it. So I was very confused, but also very delighted because this was a very good action-packed episode.

54 minutes was exactly the right amount of time. We didn't need to go out any shorter than that. We had to fit all this in there. And I feel like they rounded out a lot of the stories pretty well, and they still had some drama at the end. It's like still wanting more. I just really appreciate the cast. And I think that if you've watched the journey

of the newbies over the season, I'll throw Kelly into that mix too. Everyone kind of settled into their role. You know, okay, Michelle, I give her lots of props for finishing so strong. Pinky is an absolute delight. I'm so glad she's on the show. Kelly, it's crazy what being authentic does. You just be honest and boom, it completely flipped.

I thought she did a great job second half of the season. The difference with this show and so many Housewife shows that we're seeing in this era, they actually seem like they want to hang out with each other. Even with the tension. It's like they're just fun. They make good jokes. There's great banter. They're fun to watch.

Like I find myself like really thoroughly enjoying to the point that this episode ended. I was like, oh man. Season's over. That sucks. So like, just huge props. We haven't done that in ever,

honestly. I'm trying to think of the last time. But like with a 17 episode season, we wanted actual more footage somehow. I've never been here before. This is a new, a new region for us to venture into, but very excited for it,

very excited for the prospects. I'm even getting close to just saying, fuck it, run it back. I don't care if Shemia is there or not. As much as I really don't want Shemia to be there, because I do think genuinely that it will look a lot better and everybody will mesh together.

And there's still going to be drama. I mean, Portia, Angela, whoever, they'll drop at the drop of a kid. They'll turn on a dime whenever they want to. K Michelle genuinely believe that she will turn on a dime. Whereas the other people I just listed, they might be doing it for the show and you might have those questions.

But as long as it's good, it's good. Kay Michelle, I genuinely think that she believes what she's doing at all times. Like the thing with Drew at the very end was so funny, so out of left field and I'm completely fine with it. They even threw in like a misleading, let's see what's going on on the other side of this commercial break. I'm like, oh, fuck, she put Drew on the spot. That's kind of brutal.

Is she now making fun of her music career? No, she ends up just taking it. taking it to a different level and going somewhere else with it, but still having B with Drew. So that one put me through a loop. So I just didn't know what to expect pretty much this entire episode. And I wanted more, which is a very weird thing to say.

I'll say it again. Yeah, I think the bigger takeaway from me with that final scene, that final showdown between Drew and Kay, the fact that when she trips, and that's obviously going to turn into something totally different that I'm not looking forward to. But clearly, yeah.

Yeah, but when she trips. and even on her departure. Like, yeah, Kay is making jokes, but she, I don't think she wants to go full throttle. It seems like a friendly kind of like, all right, like she goes, we trip and we don't fall.

Get your ass up. Like, come on now. Yeah. And as she's leaving, she's like, by, Drew, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be World War III or ending any kind of relationship

they may have in the future. It just seems more like banter that these two have kind of had. So that's also encouraging, where it's like, they just seem to be having a good time even amid some of the drama. And that's when you know you're in a good spot. When there's drama going on,

but we're still keeping it lighthearted, still cracking jokes. We're not having breakdowns about toes or oysters. All positives, all just big, big pot, two thumbs up. Two big thumbs up. Also, I feel like the balance was due for Kay Michelle being on this show and they paid it. They paid it in full in this episode by. releasing her entire album, it seemed like, at the very end, so that we could get a taste of it. It was a good 10, 15 minutes.

Not a lot of things going on, obviously. We're just listening to all the songs, and then the other girls start singing. But I was waiting for that to happen because I was wondering, and especially after the reunion looks and all the seating charts and everything came out. And Kay Michelle was sitting very close to the front in the midst of not like a very big season. She found her footing at some point, but she didn't really get involved that much, but she was still sitting up close to the front. I was confused, but I figured we'd get something.

and of course we end the season with a full album release party. And that is exactly what I expected when you have K. Michelle on a show like this. Agreed. Agreed. But let's jump in because we do have a decent amount to discuss. And that's another thing, just to continue reigning props on this show. I love when we have a finale and it's action-packed. We get resolved.

But there's things still happening. It's not like, again, I'll just relate it to a lot of shows we've seen recently. Let's go with the Beverly Hills. By the time we get to the reunion, or sorry, the finale, we know what they're going to talk about. It's the same shit over and over again. That party at Kathy's was a fucking nightmare. I hated that episode. To have fresh stuff and to have actual resolution on things is kind of perfect.

Like, this was a very well done finale. So last props and then we'll jump in. I just, I can't say enough good things because I was really impressed. But we start out. with the go naked photo shoot we had a comment or a question in our last week's Atlanta go naked I think did 10 million in business last year so that's where for she's ranking in with go naked because when we were talking about where she makes her money and saying like yeah she's good I guess go naked is extremely lucrative so I didn't know that I knew it was

she also has yeah and she has other investments that she's she probably keeps off the books and by books I just mean off the show, which is fine. I mean, that's probably part of the course for a lot of these, especially the longer tenured housewives. They don't want to talk about everything. They'll talk about certain businesses, the ones that are, you know, appealing to the public eye like I go naked, but we never questioned whether or not she was good. No, not at all.

But the funny thing is, as a result of this Shemia stuff between Portia and Shemia, all of the other people in Porsche's lives, life, should be thanking Shemia because it has pushed Porsche to try to be even better friends with everyone. Because if we remember her relationship with Drew, obviously they've usually been good, but it's been up and down at times. Yeah. You have this moment now where we had, was it last season, the season prior,

Portia was pissed because Drew took it upon herself to do a go naked photo shoot. And she didn't like that. It was the end of two seasons ago and then it kind of carried into last season a little bit. And then obviously the dentist stuff really took front stage. for all of it. But yeah, we commented on that before. I think like a few episodes ago, we never really saw the actual resolution or then becoming friends again. They just out of nowhere seemingly became friends again and everybody was cool. I like that a lot of the time. I'll take that 80% of the time, especially with a lot of the

stuff that we talk about on these shows nowadays. But it's just funny because it seems like that fallout with Shemia has just pushed Porsche to try to make it look like she's besties with that. If we remember the Fager thing in Scotland, where she's singing her praises doing that toast. Then you have her chasing Drew down the hall. Now you have her in this moment with Cynthia Andrew going, I can't imagine having anybody else here to share this moment with. Give me a kiss.

Give me a smooch, Drew. So it's just funny. But Pinky, she's having a little get-together and just talking about how difficult to 2025 was, excuse me, and that she bought her company back. She got her first Vegas in D.C. franchise for slutty vegan. so things are looking good. We get some conflicting information later that we will talk about. Yeah.

It was also just kind of funny because I wanted a little bit more, mostly just after watching Drew and her team, I wanted to see Pinky's team because I do want to have a sideshow of all these women's teams. Me too. Kind of going after each other. That would be a lot of fun. So I wanted to see some of the personalities because that was a very, very large group.

And I don't know if it was a mix of her and her husband's teams or whatever it was, but there were a lot of people in that room. know we got some characters in there. I would love a team show. After seeing what Drew's team was able to do with eight minutes of screen time, I think that there's something there. Call it A, A, T-Mel.

A-T-Mel. Yeah. Instead of A-TL. Let's workshop it. Yeah, we will. We'll keep bouncing that one out. But we get to Kaye, Michelle, and she's getting ready for this album listening

party that she's been doing. She's been working this album for a long time. As we know, she is. taking a full step into country music. She is the only African-American woman signed to a major label in Nashville. So that's like a lot of pressure. Like she's got a lot up against her. She's cracking into a space that is predominantly white.

And I give her all the props in the world for leaning heavy into it. I loved some of the songs at the end. I thought it was really good. And again, it's building on top of the fact that, you know, there's a storied history with with black people in country music. So for her to have this opportunity to kind of honor that,

to talk about it all. on TV. I think is really cool because it's a part of country music that is not talked about enough. So I really like that we've had this story arc even amid some of the bullshit in the beginning when Kay Michelle was kind of a big question mark if she could do this show.

This was a storyline I've been invested in. So to see it come in a circle in this moment, I thought was really cool. It is really cool. I think the big takeaway for me because one, I don't like country music, so I'm not even going to talk about the songs. But the big thing for me is it seems like a passion project. This isn't just

I'm trying to revitalize my career. I'm trying to do this. She could probably keep putting out the same type of music, but pretty much all season, she's just been hammering home the fact that she really wanted to do this. She's been thinking about it for a long time. So to see it actually come to fruition at the same time as the show. I am not even reading too far into that and thinking she's using the show as a platform

to jump off into that. That actually doesn't really make any sense. You can dig deeper into that one. It won't make any sense. But for her to do this and watch her go through it the entire season was very cool. and to actually get the payoff at the end. We don't have a lot of that. We usually get the,

how's the album coming along when we get to the reunion? Oh, it's still a work in progress. We're going to do this, this and this. Or it's Drew getting up on stage and actually seeing one of the songs while Ralph is in the crowd and looking at him directly. Or at the reunion and singing to him. That's still one of my favorite scenes of all time. But yeah, props to Kay Michelle.

And as she talked about, everyone told her not to do this for a long time. Like, no, this is a bad idea. she got to a point in her career where she was successful enough to say, fuck you, I'm going to do it anyway. And I hope that it's a banger. I hope that she sells a shitload of albums,

but props to Kay Michelle. And then we get another scene with her, Pinky Shamia, and we're going to a pumpkin patch. The kids are all hanging out. And I like, I don't like Shemia. And I think that this episode showed a lot of the reasons why

she runs into trouble with ladies in the group, why she tries to say, everyone's coming after me and I don't understand it. But then she pulls out a fucking printed email or something at the end of this. It's just that's the problem. That's why people don't like you. The printed email was or whatever was the HOA fees and all that. In a normal circumstance,

I'm fine with it. We talked about this last week. She just hasn't gotten the trust for the audience to be like, that's a funny move. Go ahead, do it especially because it's Drew and we know what Drew was trying to to do. Anybody else in this group does it at this point where they're standing is much higher up than Shemiyah's. It makes a lot of sense and it's funny. Shem Mia does it. It's like, okay, you just can't help yourself. You could have just gone quietly into the night, ended your season on a very quiet

note, get to the reunion, say everything that you have to say, and then we'll see if you come back next year. It's just funny. It is, I understand that it's a double standard, but Shamiya has not gotten to a point with me, with you, with a lot of people to watch the show, where we're going to find her stick funny. Like you haven't earned that right. You got to do something real before you do this. Oh, I agree. So I'm just going to jump on this right now. So obviously rum bum dead. Uh, who'd

fuck it? She's working. I wonder if you have the same thought as me. She's working on a perfume line. Do you think it's butt related? I bet you it fucking is. It has to be. I guarantee you the perfume line, the bottles that they come in, are just rump shaped.

And again, it's, it's actually worse. I don't know if it's worse. Yeah, I don't want to smell like ass. But do you want to drink ass? Like that's no. No. So what's what's worse? What would you even call it? Poo fume. I don't know. Oh, God, twerk work. No. Oh, I like twerk work actually. Yeah. It's better than perfume. Yeah, but we've got a week to workshop this one. I'm sure she'll tell us what the name of the line is. We're going to have to have a little powwow or throw some of these things back and forth and figure it out. But in this scene, she's talking about dodging bullets. And Pinky seems to be in this place with Shamiya specifically, but with the group as a whole,

to be kind of a voice of reason, kind of a center figure, which I really like that she stepped into that role. And when she's talking to Shemia, there is a hint of like, hey, you're not taking any accountability on your part. because she's not saying when Shimea goes, you know, I'm dodging bullets. And last night, you know, Angela was talking and Drew kept jumping in.

It's like Buster Ryme's hype man, always doing too much. Pinky response is like, yeah, it's a lot of tit for tap. So she's acknowledging like, hey, it's back and forth,

dude. It's not just you. And this is where Shemia loses the audience a lot because she'll go and do some stupid shit. And sometimes it's in retaliation. And that's fine. And I don't have a problem with her sticking up for herself. but then she's like

bewildered why people are coming at her it's like because you went back or you started something by doing something stupid like pulling out the HOA thing and people have a response but it's like she tries to smooth over the fact that she's involved and then it says like oh woe is me

everyone wants to pick on Shemia yeah it's more of the same from Shemia it's just a different setting different group no matter what first and foremost I'm just happy that none of the three women in this scene made a likeness from hanging out with all the kids to Portia and Polar hanging out with Shania. I was waiting for that.

I didn't know who was going to do it, but none of them ended up doing it, which I was very pleasantly surprised because that's something we just shouldn't touch. We'll never talk about it at the reunion, but we shouldn't talk about that stuff ever again. So I'm happy that we're not doing that. It's low hanging fruit, but we're not going for it. But I do think again, this is good and this is showing you where Kay Michelle is. I mean, I think he really came into her own at some point in the season regardless. but sitting down with Shemia,

they're not just having that run-of-the-mill conversation that we got used to with Shemia sitting down with Kelly, Shemia sitting down with whoever else, Pinky earlier in the season, just kind of wearing thin on everybody. Like, ah, yeah, everything I do is wrong? It's like, no, do you realize that you are retaliating at least? Like, let's start here.

Let's start here and see if we can work our way back. So Portia does something you don't like, you then retaliate with a little tip or tat. How do we feel about that? Well, if she didn't do it the first place, I wouldn't. All right, all right. Let's rate it back in a little bit. Why are you doing this?

Why are you opening yourself up to these things? Well, I don't really. Okay. All right. Introspective. Maybe we can get somewhere. We can work with that. It just depends on the person.

And I'm happy that Kay Michelle and Pinky are the ones to sit down because, weirdly enough, I mean, Kelly, I don't want to say she flipped, but she kind of got neutral at some point, whether it's because of what she's going through or she just kind of saw the writing on the wall. But the other two, I feel like they hold their own. They have a really good position in the group or They're able to sit with Shimea and Shemey's able to hear them. So maybe we're going in the right direction with that.

Again, it's the last episode of the season. So who knows. But I like to see more of that. I'm okay. They're more tolerable scenes with Shemia if she's at least talking about it and the other people are kind of given a back to her. I agree. It kind of changes the dynamic.

And to your point with Kay, Michelle, I will give her a lot of props for one, kind of finding her way. But two, I think she earned a lot of respect from the group because she didn't buckle. She shifted her approach and didn't take things as seriously, but she didn't backpedal entirely and apologize for everything and act differently. She just took things better. And I think because she kind of held fast the entire time, she does have this respect from the majority of the ladies that they kind of look at Kay Michelle differently than they look at Shemia or a Kelly. Yeah. And she also got respect for me because she could have dragged that whole,

This was a conspiracy set up by a bunch of women in the group to go after me, talking about my toes and oysters and all that. She could have dragged that out all season, and she didn't. She left it in Dallas and we moved on. Yes, she had a lot of other things going on, but we didn't really talk about it anymore. Maybe she's got it in the back of her minds, but we didn't have to endure multiple episodes because it doesn't really work that way in this group.

It would work in Beverly Hills. It works in O.C. It's not going to work in Atlanta. They'll move on. It doesn't work in those in terms of entertainment value, but they allow it. They allow it the entire season, those producers. They sure do, don't they?

I dream of the day that we don't have to reference a California Housewives show on other shows. But it's just impossible. As soon as I think of something negative, I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, who else does that? Both Orange County and Beverly Hills. I'd like to think, too, that we only do that when we're talking about actual good Houseway franchises. Yeah, usually. But it does spill into the other ensemble shows and Summer House and Southern Charms. In the valley.

We just, look, we have a lot going on, but one constant in our minds will always be how bad those shows are. Yep. Yep. But we get to Drew, who's doing a little house hunting. We get more information about what's going on between her and the basement dweller. Look, I don't know what the ins and outs of this thing are. I do know that people have spoken out about Ralph just being a fucking monster. So the way that this all kind of shakes out at the end, I felt bad for Drew.

But the setup is this. They have to go back to court and sit in front of the judge. And she pretty much has to defend why she should get full custody to the point that Ralph is pulling out plane tickets from the past like four years and saying prove that you are actually working on this trip, not just ditching me with the kids. Trying to imply that she's not trying to be a mom. I just, I will not believe that that's true. I will not believe that Drew is just this monster that doesn't care about her kids. I believe that Drew is hustling trying to make money for her kids and her family. And I think that she's got this fucking mooch in the basement that goes to tech conferences.

And then we get his friends in our comments saying, Ralph runs a business. Ralph has all this money. Stop it. Stop it. If he had all the money, you wouldn't be in the basement. Oh, whatever. That's it. I don't know.

Go ahead. From my understanding of the whole thing, he could have moved out, left Drew there because the kids are still there, gone through all the divorce proceedings, gone through all the custody stuff, and still ended up back in the marital home. He didn't have to be in the basement the whole time. So he chose to be in the basement, which is weird enough. But then when the rumors and all of the stuff comes out, which even Bravo couldn't really confirm it. So I don't know what the hell is going on because they even said at the end, and I pulled it up earlier, that they reportedly Drew was ordered to leave the marital home. home. So why is it reportedly? Is it still not finalized? Is it still not confirmed? Why throw that in there? It's all very confusing. So I don't know if it's one of those situations because I'm with you. I refuse

to believe that Drew's a monster. Now, is there a world in which she's making it out that she's doing so many things for the kids, but in reality, she's not. She's doing it for herself or whatever it might be. When it goes to the court of law, who the fuck are we to say? I mean, there's so many things going on. And none of it's really confirmed. So I don't know which way is up anymore. Here you go. This is what I got. So finalized their divorce in June 2026 after filing in 2023, Jesus, ordered to pay $2,200 a month in child support because her monthly income is $38,000. And Ralph's is $27,000. She's allowed to temporarily stay in the Georgia mansion for stability before it sells with joint legal custody for their kids. then why would Bravo on a show that just aired two nights ago have it differently?

That's what I'm confused about. If there is actual reports and confirmed facts, then Bravo doesn't see. Bravo is a lot of things, but if they have information, they're going to put it out there. So I don't really get it. I think it's a very, very murky situation that I don't really want any parts of because there's a lot of speculation that goes into that, which I don't like doing. But I don't know. I have no idea how this thing's going to end up.

It's a roller coaster. Okay, just to put a chair on top of this one. They do have joint legal custody now following temporary shifts in physical custody during the whole litigation phase. Ralph had to pay Drew $145,000 for her share of the equity in the house. And she was briefly required to vacate the property. So it wasn't like a permanent banishment from the house. So it sounds like they're selling the house. And he bought her out.

So he gets the proceeds from the house, I suppose. So, all right. then we're using two different sources, one of them being Bravo. Bravo's being shady. They could have added that in there, that they were selling the house and she had to leave temporarily.

Instead, they said she was ordered to leave the marital home. So, yeah, if they're selling it, that's not the same thing. So we found the truth somewhere in the middle, at least what we think is. What I'm accepting is the truth. Yeah, thanks, People magazine,

which everybody knows, people doesn't lie. But Fadra, there's something here. When they hit the law and order type, music the intro to fager in the law office i was like wait a minute you you could talk me into a fadre lawyer show yeah i'm really surprised they haven't done that between that and the funeral home like there's something there for just fager that they should have probably tried years ago when she was off atlanta i'm surprised they did maybe there was something in the works they just couldn't find anything lawyer shows are also very interesting though because

there's probably a lot of shit that she can't talk about unless we just have an ongoing roll-a-necks of like housewives and other people like famous reality TV personalities that are just going to fadre that would be funny i would watch that housewives esquire i would watch that show starring fadra and then we got to get another lawyer in there uh that's not emily from oc i can't help no no no no but yes there's something there i think there's definitely something there but we get to hear more about kelly and what she's going through it sounds like a fucking nightmare and big props to her for opening up about this stuff on camera because it is very personal and she did really open this door to show us a side of Kelly that literally 180ed how I felt

about her for her tenure on this show. This was such a pivotal thing to just let her settle into the group as like a real part of this cast. I think by her opening up, the audience trusts are more. We're invested in her story. we're on her team now like fuck your ex like this guy sounds like a bag of shit so i don't know i i think when you hear about what she's going through and this dude hasn't paid a diamond child support we know that her restaurants are struggling there's a lot of shit going on in kelly's life so

i also give fager props for taking it on for free even if it was just for the show i don't think it was fager seems like a good person deep down i think some of it was pro bono yeah i think the the first like whatever it was maybe just trying to get to a point where she could film with the kids was pro bono but i doubt the best it was i think that kelly is still paying lower fees but yeah i mean and this is going to sound semantical but it's very important for us do i like kelly no not particularly but she can potentially be a good housewife which is very good for the show which is good for us so i have done a complete 180 on kelly in that regard do i still like her no probably not but she could be for the show. That's really important to us. That's all we really care about. We don't really care

if we like a particular housewife. If we understand their Tamara judge, great example. We do not like Tamara at all. Is she crucial to that show? Especially that show. Without Tamara, you don't have a show. So we can respect good housewifery, even if we don't like the housewife themselves. But Drew's having a party for Mama J. Her mom is 81 years young and you got the whole family in from Chicago and you have some of the ladies there as well. Now, two things come from this. One, highlighting once again what a piece of shit Ralph is, you can't vacate the house for a party, dude.

And I can just, I can see this scene after watching him do what he did on camera for so many years. I can see this conversation going out and simply to prove a point. He's like, no, it's my weekend. I finally get to go upstairs and sit on the couch. You're not taking the house for me. He's just, he sucks. I fucking hate Ralph.

But the other thing we talk about is we just dip a toe back into the horse thing. And I need to know because Drew is now playing as though she has no idea what's going on still. But we all know that that was produced, right? Like no one's actually thinking that that man showed up to an address that he shouldn't have known with a horse. Right? There's way too many very, very obvious variables in all of this. Her dressing as a cowgirl. What's his fucking name?

Terry. Is that his name? Terry. Yep. Terry. Terry is showing up, as we call it. Looking like Jay Z, a horse, him getting the address. No.

No, absolutely not. It's funny. It's very, very funny. But no, Drew, don't do this. And she even throws out, I forget what's name she threw out, but she throws out a name. and when everybody's kind of speculating. How did Terry get the address?

How did he know you were going to be there? It was Gerald. I think she said. What do you mean? It was Gerald. No, that's not how that works. You don't just show up with a horse.

And I like that even Angela's trying to spin it. Like, look, Drew didn't know this was going to happen. She doesn't know. I thought she was sarcastic, dude. And she wasn't. Maybe she was. Yeah,

no, I hope she was for her sake. But yeah, we don't know if Terry just readed this horse, if he bought the horse, if he was given the horse to Drew. That's what I said last week. Imagine having a couple of drinks and walking outside. It's like, hey, I've got a horse for you

to take care of for the rest of its life. No, absolutely not. So no, you can't tell me that this wasn't staged. And I would just, there's a line here. And because it's Drew, it could go either way and still be funny, where eventually just cop to it. Eventually just cop to it and it's funny and everybody can laugh at it if it's at the reunion. But if she holds on to it, for a little while, it's still going to be funny. And then it's going to get really annoying if we're still talking about it because other people want answers. Exactly. Exactly. It has a chance to be a funny payoff. Not for the reason she's intending, but it also has a chance to be very much.

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Wherever you get your podcast When the chaotic are on the case But a couple other things Black is back I texted you that Like oh black is back Again And I know I'm nitpicking here

But at this juncture in the season We're still doing the friend and friend thing But we're not really talking about what they are but maybe there's something, but now he's just my really good friend. There's a mutual respect there. I'm not denying a mutual respect. Sure.

But didn't we watch that man when they went to dinner or the hookah lounge, just flat out be like, yeah, I'm ready to like, I'm waiting. Like, wasn't that the implication of that scene is like he's ready to do something and try something?

And she's like, ha ha, uh, black, you, you're silly. Listen, this is it.

This is the line. We've hit the line. We're at the finish line for the friend, friend thing. If the divorce is really finalized in June, then we get to the reunion and you're still with Black and still doing the friend, friend thing. It's not funny anymore. You have to confirm or deny.

That's where we have to be. We have to live with that. I can live with the idea that you wouldn't confirm for whatever reason because you're on TV and you're going through an ugly divorce and you don't want to give Ralph any ammo. Perfectly fine by me. If we get to the reunion and we've confirmed that the divorce is finalized, and you're still doing the friend, friend thing with Black,

I can't defend it anymore. That's where I am. I think that's a good way to do it. I think that's a good barometer. The other funny thing was, and this is just delusional Drew, telling all of the other women like, oh yeah,

Black's actually going to come for my mom's birthday. She loves him. She loves her some Black. It's like, okay, cool. Black walks in, goes over to her mom. Oh my God, you're real. So she hasn't even met him in the flesh. So what's got?

Like, very funny to me, but I have no idea what the fuck's going on with this guy. It's just very Drew coded. Like the whole thing is like, yeah, just explains Drew to a tea. But the last thing we need to talk about at this party, as we mentioned before, is Dr. Ken. Dr. Ken comes up to say hi to the ladies. He's worked with a lot of them before. I guess Fager a hug and lingers for quite a while and makes a lot of noises.

In her ear, yeah. She has got it. This energy. Mm-mm-mm-mm. And Fader's giving it back. but I thought, I just assumed watching this that he was single

and maybe him and Fager had flirted in the past and it was kind of a continuance of perhaps some flirting previously and then he gets done doing that and then he tries to do the same thing to Portia like same tones, same noises and shit and Porsche's like, whoa, whoa, those are a confessional

and then someone brings up like, hey, Dr. Ken, aren't you married? Why are my business? Yeah. how dare you? Everybody's reaction too was very, very funny. You go around the room and you see Drew kind of poking in. Like, what is he doing?

Is he licking your ear? And then he goes in for Portia. It's very, very odd behavior from Dr. Ken. And then we find out that he's married and we're even more questioning in the whole situation. I don't know what's going on with Dr. Ken. They all seem to be laughing about it. So it doesn't seem threatening or any weird issues going on there. But a little gross, a little nasty for me.

It's creepy to watch. And then especially when they ask about your wife. and he's like, whoa, whoa, too personal. Come on now, that's my business. I'm the therapist. You don't ask the therapist about his business. We can talk about the notes that I took in Drew's meeting the other day, but we can't talk about my wife.

That's the vibe I get from him. Yeah, I will break, what is it, Dr. Client privilege, and I'll tell you all about what's going on. But no, you can't ask about my wife. Don't be ridiculous. Yeah, Dr. Ken continues to make me question his professionalism, which he's been doing years now. So thanks for that, Dr. Ken.

But then Black shows up. And as you said, he walks in, mom says, well, you're real, which throws everything that Bruce said about this man into question. I want to believe, and I'm fairly confident, that it's all due to the Ralph stuff. I think you're on to something there. And I can respect that, given what a demon that guy is. Yeah.

but you are 100% correct that this is the line. Yes, we're here. We're done. I don't want to deal with that anymore. If it is still there, then it's a full Drew thing, and now we have to just bash her for it. Agreed. Now, let's get to Shemia and her surrogate and Gerald.

And, you know, we do get good news about the surrogate. We may not like Shemia, but we are rooting for her in this regard. Her surrogate did conceive, so they are expecting a baby boy, which is exciting for her and Gerald, because this has been a big thing. But as she's sitting there and talking to Gerald and the surrogate, Gerald, thanks the surrogate for being there. Thank you for your time and your effort.

I'm out of here. If you need anything, let me know. We FaceTime Shamea's parents. And then when they're done, they start chit chatting. I can't imagine what this process is like. I'm not here to comment on it, you know? But it is interesting that I don't want to put pressure or heavy. on you. But this is like,

if you don't do this, I fucking hate you. Yeah. That's the vibe. No pressure, but this is it. And you got to carry that weight for me. And it's funny you said that I have alighted me because now I'm going to tell you about my friend group and tell you how they say that I just seem like I've lost my light and I let people dim my light.

Well, what do you think about that, Daphne? Interesting. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Yeah, this was just like, I don't get it. I just don't understand Shemia. I never will. The way that her,

the tactics that she uses, she sees the camera. It is inappropriate. It absolutely is inappropriate. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Again, you have another opportunity, which we talked about before like,

oh yeah, it's a Shemia solo scene, like whatever. I'm sure it's going to be nice or it's her and Gerald. And Gerald just seems disinterested in the camera, whatever. to then bring everything into it again and talk more about it when you just had a better conversation with Kay Michelle and Pinky a few moments ago to do this day just discredits everything. It goes right back to where we are.

It's like, bye, you don't involve her. She has nothing to do with this. She doesn't want to hear about this. She just move on with their life. It's bizarre behavior. Yeah, dragging your surrogate into it just seems strange. It seems strange to put her in that position on TV to talk about your drama with the ladies in the group.

She hasn't been involved in the slightest. If she had been around and she was kind of your soundboard for like venting about shit in the group, that's a different story. This is really the first time that we've talked to Daphne. And you're laying a lot on her in regards to your personal issues, the pressure of this being the last embryo. And then she goes to a confessional. And this has been the conversation since we started talking about this journey to have a boy.

is Gerald because you know Gerald does a lot for Shimea and she's very appreciative and she's like well if I can't give him this

then there's a whole different conversation to be had the implication is that if you can't give him a boy he's out that's what I'm getting from all of this which is like fucking nuts

and that sucks if that's true it sucks because that has I feel like been the way that the conversation has been framed since that's been the underlying sentiment.

Yeah. And it gets worse every time that we talk about it. And I don't think she's doing it intentionally, nor do I think that Gerald would actually leave her if it wasn't going to happen.

Whatever may happen is going to happen. Regardless, I just, I don't think she realizes that she's doing this. And like I said, every time we have this conversation, it gets a little bit more worse,

a little bit more worse. It's like, okay, you're getting to that point where we're going to start thinking that your husband's just going to leave you, he doesn't really give a shit about you unless you give him a boy.

I don't think you know what you're doing, but I would just quit while you're ahead. Just be happy. And thankfully, we don't have to do it anymore because this is the last that we're going to talk about it until we get to the reunion. She's just going to be happy and talking about how the surrogates pregnant and they're expecting a boy and that's going to be great. So just leave it there.

Don't go back into the trenches and talk about that. And I also, I'd be hard pressed to say, yeah, I don't want Andy to ask that question. Because I do think it's pretty apparent. I think it's apparent enough where Andy could dig a little deeper and ask, that question. I think he will. I hope he doesn't. Yeah, I think he will too. I just imagined it. My brain, it just kind of works with everything else. I can hear it. We're going to be talking about. Yeah. Hopefully he just has more rum bum questions. Like, just do that. That's all we want to do. For like a good 10 minute segment about Shimea when you just roll out her tape for the season,

just talk about rum bum the entire time and then get into the rum or the bum perfume. That's where we want to go. I'm stuck on poo fume until we find something better than that. What was yours? twirk. Nope. Work church. Work. Okay.

That's it. Hey. Oh, that's one of those websites that's banned and scott. Oh, boy. Well, let's get to Portia and my favorite significant other sway. I still think sway is Patrice, by the way, legal name. Patrice, yeah. I just think she's so cool.

I think she's like the coolest person on this show, even though we only get like five minutes of her total the entire season. but it just sheds light. We already knew that her and Sway were official. They did a hard launch. I think during filming, like right after filming, it's been a minute since they were announcing that they're together.

They kind of did one because Portia alludes to it at the end of the episode when Sway shows up at K. Michelle's event. But this conversation was kind of funny because Porsche is done with Mike. Like she's playing hard to get because Sway, didn't give her the answer that she wanted, which was very funny, too. Like, ah, I can't say I'm dating, but I'm less engaged with the people that I'm talking to. If that makes sense to you. Portia's like, well, fuck that. Like, you've been doing this. I've been doing something else. I've been talking to Mike, but we just watched last week, you're done with Mike. You got the

ick a little bit a little while ago. He said he loved you. That was it for you. You moved on. I was going to come with Mike. But I do think they hard launched at some point. They reference a photo that she posted on Instagram and that's how Mike found out that she was with sway and then obviously when we get to the party at k michel's that sway is her girlfriend so i think there's a hard launch somewhere in there right at the end of filming probably yeah maybe this that that picture that mike found out was when we all found out as well probably actually yeah yeah yeah poor guy but yeah it's just a little back and forth little little little cute flirting and i like it i like that sway didn't just like buckle she was like well i'm

that's what i'm doing my god i'm doing my thing you're doing your thing and if it gets to the point that we make this official, great. But I love things about you. I think that was the big test. That was the big test because Portia was like, well, what about you? There's no love here. I love things about you. I'm not going to pull a big mic and say, I love you.

I'm in love with you. So Sway, just super cool. But we get Angela and Charles scene with Amari. And this was a big one because obviously there's been a lot of discussions. about her daughter's marriage and their relationship as a result of that. We've watched it kind of over two years. Last year wasn't as intense as this year where it really kind of came to a head. And they sit down and we get a FaceTime from the wife.

And, you know, I want to say it was a genuine apology. It seemed kind of like she was just trying to say the right thing to Angela. But regardless, Angela takes it well. it was what she needed to hear. Charles is so Charles in this scene. It's very funny because he's just sitting there and he's like, well, you know, you're going to make her own decisions. So yeah, yeah, you're not saying anything, Charles, but you're doing all the talking. Yeah, I don't know.

What do you want for me? I'm not doing this. And obviously, like, the surrounding speculation and the surrounding conversation about all of this is how Angela actually feels about her daughter being with a woman, being married to a woman. We're going to get into it at the reunion. We already saw that clip when you see. You know, next week at the reunion, it looks like Andy S for that, pretty much point black.

So we'll wait for her actual discussion. There has not been nearly enough conversation on the actual show, enough factual information to read into how she feels about it for us to really have that conversation. Nope. So we'll wait until they have the conversation at the reunion. What's the point in jumping the gun there? There's no point for me. So this was a different scene.

I mean, look, all this told me was a slight regret, maybe a little young, dumb, and in love. we just ran off and eloped and got married and I really didn't understand why you got so upset, but now I kind of do. I think it's what Angela needed to hear. And I think that's why she started breaking down. But they've gotten so much better. Last year, they were at each other's necks. And it just seemed like everything was very contentious.

So to see a nice scene like this and obviously every mother out there probably loves when their child looks at them and says, hey, you were right. Because it's like, hey, didn't want to be right. I just want you to be happy. But also, yeah, I was right. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, right. But I'm glad she threw that in there, though, where she's like, I just want you to be happy.

It's not about being right. Yeah. Regardless of, you know, the nuances of what's going on with this and Angela's feelings on it, she's a good mom and she gives a shit. And that has always come through on camera. So this was just nice. It was nice to see this and very funny to watch Charles navigate the whole thing. Because in his own way, I thought he did a good job in his own very Charles way.

He supports Angela. He acknowledges. that yeah, I think she felt left out. Like, that's her best friend. She didn't know. She felt disregarded. And she had every right to feel that way. It was like, oh, no.

Well, well said. Well said, Chuck, nicely done. And he's got to talk again for eight episodes. But hey, that's all we need it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure we'll have more talk of him at the reunion because there have been so many references to Charles being outside.

He's going to have to address it in some way, shape, or form of the reunion. Now, I really hope they have a really big opportunity here to have a correspondent standing outside of the studio and Andy going, let's go to Charles. He's outside. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah, I'd love that.

I can only hope. But let's get to the listening party. Kay Michelle's sister, Shala, I don't know if I pronounced that right. I didn't. I apologize. They're twins.

My God. Oh, she popped up. I was like, well, when she talked, yeah, like they literally sound like the same person.

But it's just a celebration of Kaye, Michelle in this country out and all she's done and had to do to get to this point in her career and she's going to celebrate it with all the ladies and we get ins and outs of kind of everybody throughout this party but I do want to say the wrap up of this season with Kay Michelle on stage and when she's speaking at the end of her set and you get the montage of the ladies beautiful. It was beautifully done. I was like, this is a really nice seat. I feel like I'm watching a movie right now and we're wrapping up the characters.

That's the thing that we're missing in so many of these shows is that they like each other. They can have fun around each other. I mean, it obviously gets contentious and there is some deep rooted issues and some of the friendships. Some people will just simply never be friends, but they're always able to film together. They're always able to be at a party together or come back to a party after having a big fight and still able to have fun, which is all we ever asked for. That's literally all we ask for on these shows. is to maybe check in with each other in the off season so you understand where each other are and then film and stay together.

That's it. It's not a lot to ask. But that was such a big moment, I feel like that's kind of what wraps it all together. What you were talking about at the beginning of the episode is that they like each other. They're friends. They actually have friendships and they're able to have fun together. It's not just like a, oh, here's the storyline for the season. We're going to do this, this and this.

Like we were talking about with OC. This is so much more organic. There's so many things going on. granted there are a lot of people on this show and a lot of things to keep in touch with but if you just set your sights on like three or four of the women and you just kind of go with that that works that works for everybody so to watch them all having fun i feel like it just brought everything back together and there's still more shit to talk about that's the best part is this could have been the sign off no we actually still have everybody getting back together we have to talk about sway

we have to talk about the HOA fees we have to talk about kelly and angela for one last time it's bizarre to me that all of that started to spill over at the end but it was still good to see it It was just, it was entertaining until the end, which is really great. I agree. And as we're going through everybody, Kelly, her court date got postponed because her ex-husband sued the county and filed a bunch of motions. And Pager says it's just a delay tactic. So she's still going through it at this point.

Drew is just excited to be invited. And that's, this is where I need Drew and Kay Michelle, even at the end. Like this back and forth that they have where. Kay Michelle has the upper hand in the music thing, and she kind of has those little jabs here and there. I think they're funny, but I do think that there's this unspoken mutual respect between the two. I think Drew respects Kaye, more than Kay respects Drew. But I do think that they respect each other. I really like their dynamic.

I think it's really funny because of the music aspect of everything, knowing how Drew feels about her career, knowing how very proud she is of her singing and that whole part of her life, to the point that in the beginning of this season, she pretty much pulled a, okay, Michelle sings. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she sings. But to see her have somebody on this show to combat those comments

with a very fulfilled music career to back her up in Kaye, Michelle, has been really funny. Like, I really like those. It has. And it also didn't go the way that we thought it was going to go in the beginning of the season. We thought that Drew was going to have way more comments

about Kay Michelle. We thought that at one point, Kay Michelle was going to make more comments about Drew singing the national anthem, which she did, but only at funny moments. So it could have gone way worse. It could have been way more overbearing with the whole thing. And it wasn't. It was actually the right level of cross the board.

Drew kind of stayed in her lane. Kay Michelle figured her shit out and we just got back to a better place. Yeah, it was nice. But let's talk HOA fees because the vibes are good. And it's important to note that the vibes are good because there's, there's quite a few times this season when the vibes are high, and Shemia just steps on it because again, everyone's chatting,

we're having fun, and we get a, oh, that horse shit in my yard comment. That would have been funny. That would have been fine. You could even double down and make more horse poop jokes. I'm down for it.

You can call out Drew for coming up with this whole plan and showing up to your house with a horse. You have the upper hand here. There's really only one thing that you could do, Shamia. not everybody else because as you said, if someone else had pulled this out, I'd have laughed. But because it's Shemia,

and she pulls out the H-O-A fees, and she pulls out the fines, it's not funny. It's just as Drew says, this is giving corny. And this is exactly why Shemia, you sit there scratching your head, trying to understand

why the group kind of ices you out. It's this stuff. This is exactly it. And saying $2,200, because your HOA find you for a pile of horse shit, sounds like horseshit. Yeah, it does. And again,

we already talked about it because Shemia brought it up to Pinky and Kay Michelle. So then just make a joke. That's all you have to do. She never finds that sweet spot. She always goes too far or she does too little or she deviates entirely and finds something else to be annoyed about. I just don't get it. I don't understand how you can see so many other people prospering on this show.

and then you do something like this. It's like, ah, read the room. Nope, too far. Didn't have to do it. Like you said, one comment. Your horse shit in my yard. What the hell was that about? Funny.

Could be okay. Maybe press her a little bit about bringing the horse there and setting the whole thing up. Could work. We want answers to that too. We can see what Drew is doing. But instead you go somewhere else. It's like, all right. No, no.

This isn't funny anymore. It's just stupid. Bring the poop in a zip lock back. Yeah. Yeah. Is that too far? Maybe. put it in the rum bum

and bring it in be like hey got you a bottle oh it's actually just the horse it's actually just poop yeah it's your horse by the way where is your horse that's what nobody asked that

nobody asked that I'm just going to say that not one person a no brater fucking horse why did no one ask that like what happened to that horse after that night

like at least ask her that question to see where she goes with it because it's true she's going to have an answer it's not going to make any sense but then you can go in for a further conversation. She's going to get annoyed. But we want answers to those things, not your HOA fees.

That's stupid. No, where's the horse? That's all I want to know. As we already said, we get the hard launch of Sway and Porsche. Sway gets introduced through the whole group. Find out that Mike found out through a post, didn't do right by him. But hey, Porsche is happy. She's with Sway.

They're official. They're still dating right now. And we even get the debut of Fangey in what could quite pop. possibly be the reason that Fangee will not be successful because just a lot of complaints. And what the fuck? Why does it have a fog light on it? That was crazy. And then it sucks up Porsche's hair and she's like, well, there should be awarding on it.

It's like, no, these are fans designed for women. I'm just assuming that many of them have longer hair. This should be part of your trial process. Will it suck up your hair and get jammed in the motor? also why is it so loud? I don't know. That motor was crazy. I mean, if you're Angela and you get those,

whether they're prototypes or just the first generation, whatever it is, you turn that thing on and you hear that motor. Nope, not bringing it. Not bringing that idea. No one's going to bring you at this juncture. Like, yes, we might ask you about it at the reunion. Like, how's it going?

How's the investment going? Did you get anything? Whatever. But if you show up to this party without the fans, no one's going to say, hey, where are the fans? Even if you told a couple of people, they're going to forget about the fans.

So why bring that product there? It's too loud. It ate somebody's hair. It's got a light on it that blinded somebody from across the room. It looks like a terrible product. This is not what you wanted. I feel like you added too many things in there. It should just be like a little fan, a little usable fan that doesn't make any noise.

That should be what you're shooting for. Instead you have this. Sounds like a lawnmower. What are we doing? Yeah, it's a tough launch. It acts like a lawnmower, apparently. Yeah, there you go. It's a tough launch.

Tough start for Fangi. So hopefully we're able to workshop that. get a better product out there. But we got Kay Michelle intro to the stage and she sings some songs from a new country album, Jesus and Whiskey. She has a song Jack Daniels, VSOP, all of these. I thought they were really good. I'd thoroughly enjoyed the songs.

And just watching the group come together in this moment was great. It was a great way to kind of tie this season together. I thought it was fucking hysterical and just showed you who each woman was. when Kay gives them the microphone. That shows you who they are, and it also shows you who they think they are. Because Kelly, Angela, understood the assignment. They're goofy.

They're having fun. They're doing their thing. Shemia and Drew, you're taking it too seriously. Yeah. You're taking it way too seriously. You know what? There could be a producer there.

You don't know. It's a launch party. Maybe someone's going to hear their voice. For an album deal? Yeah. You're going to hear their voice to be like, whoa, that's, who is that? Country, yeah. No, yeah, you expect that from Shemia.

You expect that from Drew. Fadre was funny. She just didn't have the voice for it, but she admitted it. She acknowledged it. You know, nobody in the group is good at anything. Yep, can't be good at everything. That's totally fine by me. But yeah, we all expected that from Shemia and Drew just kind of going back and forth,

probably trying to out duel each other. Like, give me back the fucking microphone. Come on. I would have loved that if we had to sing off out of nowhere. Those two just start belting. That would have been great. But yeah, it would have been awesome. But anyway, in that moment, you get Drew saying to K, love you, love you so much.

We get some kind of resolve ever so briefly. And this is what made me say, like, I really like their dynamic. If they're able to take this, then have this scene at the end where we're kind of debriefing with everybody. We're going to do our check-ins for the end of the season. But we get the K Michelle and Black DM situation brought back up. And it kind of just comes out of nowhere. Yeah, because Kay Michelle, after I think Drew says, you're crazy, no, you're crazy. And then Kay is like, well, you know, Drew's plucking and picking and stirring in the pot.

And then Drew's like, well, you know, this whole scheme that you didn't feel safe. Like, so clearly there's underlying tension between the two and it gets brought back up in this moment. But the way that this is handled was kind of perfect because we are all. at home like we don't care i don't care the dm doesn't it seems innocuous enough like yeah i guess you could say like oh that's kind of weird you say don't know him it says hey handsome whatever castan says it best dr castan he's like who gives a shit i'm like yes yeah yeah exactly so normally i would have gotten irritated at this like why are we doing this now but due to the reactions of everybody in the group and then drew pulling out the phone and then all of kameshell's fans

getting in her friends, and you're like, get the fuck out of here. Boo, bye. Who you? And then security is trying to like split them up. She trips on her pants. This is very important.

This is a very important part because this is going to turn into something that it does not need to turn into. Drew, she got pulled a little bit, yes. But she tripped on her pants. As she admits,

yes, she admits this. But the second she gets outside with Porsche, did you see me, they pushed me over. No, they didn't. Nope, nope, nope, and go to your confessional and do the exact same thing and spiral even more. I don't want to deal with it.

We're not going to deal with it. We're going to go right to the reunion. We should talk about that first. Talk about it right away. Show Drew the footage of her admitting that she tripped over her pants and Porsche then confirming and then move on. We don't want to spend too much time on that. But yeah, this whole thing, if it wasn't Drew, if it was somebody else, obviously if it was a Shemia thing, we would roll her eyes. It's true.

It's always going to be funny. and we know exactly what this is, whether it's a producer or somebody on her team whispering in her ear like, hey, you know, they're done filming. Don't you have that DM situation with Black and Kay Michelle? Did you ever bring that up? No, I didn't.

What's the funniest way I can do it? Wait until after Kay Michelle's done singing. Tell her that you love her and then wait for some weird, contentious comment or something that pops up and show her the DMs and lead her down that path on your own. Like, didn't you say you didn't know, Black?

Well, what time would you say that was? September, October. well here's February it's like okay nope we are like 12 episodes past this we actually asked when is when is she going to bring it up we even said probably in Scotland maybe a little bit more if we keep talking about it there's a window in there and then there's Drew's window even in my wildest imagination I didn't expect Drew to do it at the last possible moment and she did and it's funny that she did it because Kay Michelle doesn't care again she's grown so much she understands what to expect she let that roll off of her back Dr. Cast and let

roll off of his back. No one gives a shit. Drew thought that she had a gotcha moment. She didn't. She stepped in it, then literally stepped on her pants and fell. It was funny. It was a very,

very funny way to end the season. And to do it even better to go outside and Portia's laughing at you. Kay Michelle's yelling over like, bye, Drew, I love you. Not to love you. Oh, damn.

All right. Drew comes back in when we're doing the cast photo at the end. And takes the picture. And she takes the picture. And she kisses everybody or tries to kiss everybody and then skips over Kay and just kind of waves to her. That was funny. That's the way that you have to do it.

And then all of a sudden, Angela and Kelly pop off. What was that about? Kelly just decided to take a shot at Angela for no reason about Charles being outside. All right. Cool. We're setting up for the reunion. We know that you guys are going to butt heads. But it was such a funny way to end the season.

It was delightful. I thoroughly enjoyed this last scene. It gave me a lot of hope for the reunion. So did the scenes from the reunion. It looks lit. I'm pretty excited about it. But yeah, it just lit. It looks lit a.F.

But when do you say that? I think because Dev and I were talking about it, she said it. So I think it's carried over. Yeah. I'm not trying to do a thing. Don't worry. But when she says it, it sounds natural.

Yeah, sure. Not me. But anyway, yeah, just a great way to end the season. And I do want to point out that Drew got fucking crushed in court. According to Bravo, as we have talked about, it seems as though it's a little different than Bravo said.

According to Bravo, she lost primary custody, she got kicked out of the house and has to pay child support. Now we know what actually happened. So a little shady by Bravo, no surprise there. And the last thing, the last thing,

I loved Pinky's shot in the midst of all of this. Drew could never. Yeah. And I'm excited to see that come up at the reunion because I think that's going to be a fun back and forth because I think Drew can't handle Pinky. Pinky's $4 million in debt, according to Bravo and still deal with it. Yeah, and that's the other thing.

Pinky said didn't have to declare bankruptcy in the episode. We end the episode with, oh, she filed Chapter 11. So she did. The new chapter of her life, Chapter 11. Yeah, that was scary. Very shady, very shady stuff by Bravo at the end. But I love it. I mean, the way that the season turned out, the way that the cast has been doing the things

that they've been doing that have been really good and translating well to the show. I'm okay with some shady action by Bravo. Yeah, I am too. I am too, but let's get to some questions. First one up here from Z.Row. Is it just me or is that therapist a creep? Yes. Yes, it's a bit of a creep.

We've been talking about it for years. Oh, man. Oh, from Blacksmith Trev with Atlanta Dunn. Can anyone tell me what Fager's contribution to this season was, confessionals and that one, little trip to a graveyard in Scotland. That was about it. Yeah, I could, I can.

Fine. Not as like a full time. She could have been like a Cynthia. Like, just have the two of them. I was fine with what she did. Like, yeah, she could have brought more,

but like I don't want another Junebug situation, all that bullshit. I would rather her be in this role because we had enough going on. So I had, I really had no problems with Fadreth and in the role she was in this season, honestly. Yeah, well, I agree. Ooh, from Ella Leha, with Andy confirming that the whole cast is staying,

how should Shimea approach next season? I didn't see that Andy confirmed that. I also don't know if you chill out. Yeah, she just needs to chill out. She needs to, here's the thing. It's what I just talked about, the HOA thing. You can do things in the right way that are funny, or sometimes you're going to miss.

You have to be okay with missing. She just goes too far. She always takes things way too. far and talks about them for way too long. She needs to have thicker skin, but she needs to get over shit quicker. And she needs to have a better approach to situations. Because that's the thing, like, and that's what makes this cast so good. And we always point to people like, like Angela, like, uh, Portia.

And maybe portion, Shemia's ship has sailed. But the way they operate, if you have a couple of good moments, then you have a bad moment. You just have to deal with that bad moment and then move forward and go have a good moment again. And everybody's going to open up their arms and let you back in. Like it's a very easy group to get a lot. along with, you just have to be able to handle your shit and shemia can. I agree.

Janice Ingram 360. Okay, Steele tell me, did you love the K event? I did and had a tear in my eye with you. It was beautiful. Yeah, I loved it. I loved every second of it. I didn't cry. No, I got a little emotional.

I just thought it was cool. I thought it was, you know, to go into a genre that is predominantly white and plant your flag and say, fuck the status quo. I'm going to go do my thing and I'm going to kick ass doing it. I will always applaud that. I thought it was fucking awesome.

So yeah, another tip of the cap to Kay Michelle. I just love that our listeners think that you cried everything. Yeah, you know, whatever. From Colie Marie 1, I don't get the Kay Michelle Drew stuff. Like, come on, it's not that deep. It was a swing and a miss by Drew at the end of the season. And it's true. And that's it.

Just focus more on, I don't want to finish this. sentence, but from Myra Hellwig, Kay Michelle had a pretty decent comeback after a rocky start. I'm not going to read that last question. We can't. Yeah, then we do the thing. You know what you said,

Myra, and a lot of people who listen to us know what you said to. Yeah, we can't say it because then she will have a terrible season next year without fail. We are like 10 for 10 on that one. Anytime we say it, it ends up biting us in the ass. So yeah,

no, from Angel Renee. Couldn't she media just shovel up the horse shit for free? Yes. Maybe. I mean, she didn't get charged $2,200 from the HOA. If she came about it and said that neighbors complained because there was a horse

there and there was horse shit in the street after the event and they didn't see it and she ended up getting fined. It's a little bit more believable. But if the horse just pooped in your yard, that doesn't seem. I know HOA is very overbearing with a lot of people. but it doesn't seem like something that you would get charged a lot of money for. Now, which leads me to Vanez,

did Shimea make up the H-O-A fine? Here's the takeaway. It doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't matter if she made it up or not because it shouldn't have been brought up like that. Like, that's the thing. It could have been brought up at the reunion like,

oh, by the way, you want me $2,200. Here's the bill. Yeah, it lands differently. The way that she went about it, once again,

Shimea being Shemia, it just does not land. So she should have avoided it all together. Did she make it up? I don't know, maybe. Probably. I don't know. From B.

Dot hit, Mike was 100% a paid actor who was just trying to get screen time. Portia needed the storyline. Interesting. I don't know. I think I'm leaning that Porsche maybe wanted a storyline or at least somebody to film with by way of some sort of romantic connection. Maybe there was never anything there because when we talk about Mike, obviously she was way more interested in Sway.

and that is very apparent. But with Mike, I think she was interested early then realized that she didn't care anymore and maybe dragged them along and let them along a little too far. I'll believe that. I don't know about the paid actor thing, though.

Yeah, interesting take, though. Jennifer M2M, K Michelle is not made for reality TV. She's a snowflake, too sensitive and melts under pressure, too easily offended. I respectfully disagree. I would have said that about the first half, But I thought that she She settled in nicely.

The big question with her is going to be, because she is so active on Twitter, is that going to completely change her reunion performance? Is she going to back on everything because we're going to bring up tweets and then we're back to square one?

That's my big question mark. As far as where she fits on this show, I thought her second half was great. I think that she fits into this cast. I think she found her niche. And I think she did a good job. So a lot of it hinges on the reunion. Yeah, I fully agree with that one.

See if we got one more in here. I guess we could just do this one. From A, Fuchs, who do you think we'll make it back next year? Hopefully, no Kelly or Shemia. Well, if we're supposed to believe Ella, Andy already confirmed this, which I didn't see.

So I never know. And I feel like he doesn't confirm things that quickly. But I would say you leave Kelly get rid of Shemaya because I do think that there is a somewhat good housewife in there somewhere with Kelly. Yes, she might be annoying, but she does move things in the right direction in certain instances. And she's been very open. So I think she deserves another season. Shemia, you get rid of and then Kelly doesn't have that fallback person that she always goes back to.

You force her to open up a little bit more and then keep everybody exactly the same. Yeah. And, you know, I think that's the. only move I would make. And also completely fine if you bring Shamiah back. I think that if she has even a hint of the season she had this year and last year, like done, no shot,

or bring her back and limit her screen time. But just given how the season ended up being and how the cast vibe and how enjoyable it was, if you run it back the same way, I'm fine with that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm all right with that.

I can talk myself into it for sure. Yeah, but we will see you at the reunion. As I said, it looks lit A-F. So everyone, I get ready for a lit-f reunion. Liddy. Liddy City. That's right. That's what we do here.

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