Bros & Shows - John Fuda Full Interview

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

What's up Bro's? Today we have a special episode for you! With RHONJ coming to an end and some extra fireworks surrounding the Fuda's, we thought we'd invite John on to explain his side. If you follow any Bravo social media, you may have heard of the Fuda name change, an alleged felony charge and some other speculations. John clears up all of the rumors and more in this interview. We get hints at what was in the giant envelope and we discuss what the first year on the show was like. Will the drama between him and Louie ever be squashed? Find out that and more on todays episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brab Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to a special episode of Brav Bros. We are here with our friend John Fuda from Roanjay.

What's up, John? How you doing today? how are you guys thrilled to have you um as or with me as always is shooter mcguter shoots what's up dude not too much we're excited to get through this uh you know the season was it was a little interesting but we're excited to sit down with john and kind of discuss as he's a newbie try to get through his thinking on everything and uh yeah like i said just excited to get through it so let's start it off how did you guys get on this show like was this a dream of yours or was this a dream of your wife's like i don't think it was a dream of either of ours we we kind of they kind of found us

we're kind of just living our life every day and they kind of found us and then it just became our reality yeah for sure i wasn't planned at all we i was just living my everyday life like you guys are today and i was told oh it was like i got contacted by this person and i was like oh that's cool and then all of a sudden i'm here and we know like rachel watched the show before it aired before you guys were on it right yeah we i mean listen obviously especially during covid you know there's nothing to do so you you go through some of these things and i mean you guys know when you're watching tv with your wives there's not a lot that you guys especially me i watched like a lot of movies with drugs and violence you know the only thing i really watch

my wife is bravo that's one of the things that we can connect on in shark tank yeah now we actually steal and i had similar paths we uh during the pandemic both started watching bravo with our significant others, now his wife. And yeah, I mean, it was a crazy run, but obviously we ended up where we ended up. Now, just talking about how going into it, like you've watched Bravo shows before. So when you finally get to that stage, when you're actually going to be on camera and, you know, with your wife, you kind of know what to expect, right? You're not really blindsided by a lot of things. Well, I mean, it's definitely different from when you're watching it because it's reality. So now you're in it. You know, you see people with cameras running around. You see

over your head. So there's a lot of moving parts to it. It's not like, oh, you're kind of looking around and like, okay, this is reality. I'm really doing this. And you actually ask yourself multiple times throughout film and like, is this really what we're doing? Is this real? Yeah. And I mean, what we've talked to Chris Bassett from, we talked to a few of the husbands, but Chris was on our show a few times. And he told us about their first scene together, like with Candace and the first time they were in front of the cameras. And like, it took them like a bunch tries to kind of get comfortable, how long did it take you guys to kind of settle in and get used to the cameras, get used to the boom mic, like all the stuff going on and like actually be

yourselves? So it's weird because one of the first scenes we filmed was in my showroom. So it was a little bit easier for me because it's like, that's like my habitat. I can almost do it my eyes closed, you know? But it was, it's definitely, it took a few times because it's still, no matter how comfortable you are, you have a mic on, like there's just, it's just weird. Like it's like, it's okay, I'm being recorded. Somebody has this footage. It's not, it's not like something that you would do every day. Let's dive into like the good stuff a little bit, if you will.

The goods. You want the goods. The goods. We came here for the goods, John. That's the only reason we're here. Which husband did you get the closest with? Like, who's your actual boy? Like in real life?

Who do you talk to like daily or frequently? Joey Gorgia. Joey Gorga? Yeah, we've talked to him a little bit. He just, he seems like such an approach. guy for other guys to kind of like cling on to and just you're new to the group he's so he just seems so welcoming and honestly like steel and i still already alluded to us talking to chris bassett we kind of fashioned ourselves as the forefront of house husbands if you will we want to get all the

house husbands on here because we know the husbands in the backgrounds you know they might not get a lot air time obviously jersey's a little different you get a ton of air time but you know what's going on and you can kind of keep your eye on certain things so we feel like that's kind of of our gateway to get in there. And Joe Gorga, I mean, you know, look, a lot of people call him the, what, the seventh housewife on that show with Josephina. But he just seems like such a good dude. And it looks like you meshed really well with them, obviously going back to the,

the Shorehouse party that you got your chest waxed and everything. It was great TV. It weren't kids are friends, you know, so it's easier that way because the kids really are friends. So it's just, you know, we're a lot closer. But he did mention your podcast to me and he said he is going to go on. at one of these days. Oh, yeah. Tell him to message me back then because he left me on red and like.

I told him today. He was excited. He's like, good that you're doing that. He's like, I'm going to hit those guys up. I like that. Yeah, we'll see. He's, he's borderline in the dog house for me.

He left me on red. I didn't appreciate it. But it's, we'll still have him on. We like you better, but we'll have him on too. But, um, yeah. So I got to know. One, do you still wax your chest?

So, no. I don't. I was shaving it. I was shaving it. But listen, as a guy, it does a lot to keep up with being a guy. You know, your hair, that's the last thing I need to be doing. I got to shave my head every day. So now I got to worry about my chest. It's not the same process.

It's a little different. So I don't. I'd have to, and I will probably, but I won't wax it. I'll probably just buzz it. Yeah, that's, you can get like a manscape sponsorship. I'm sure they'll send you like a free clipper. You can just, you know, get some publicity out of it. Yeah, that's a good call.

I can't tell you how many companies reach out to me to wax me for free. Actually, I just had a new one the other day. They want to do a sugar. It removes your hair with sugar. Never heard of it, but they rub you with sugar and they remove your hair. So I get like the craziest messages, but that's one of them that I just got. That's great. Now, we like kind of obviously one thing, I mean, it's underestimated how much a man has to do as far as manscaping.

You know, we always look like we're getting the short end of the stick. people are looking at us like, oh, what do you guys have to do? Like, there's a lot that goes into looking this good. Am I right, Steele? I'm nervous that you're comparing the plight of men to that of women, and it's like a dangerous game to be playing with our audience. So, no, I don't know what you're talking about. So this year, I got picked on a lot from my beard, right?

Because sometimes it's not right. Sometimes it's not crooked. So a lot of people who made fun of my beard, my mustache, a guy. Half the time I'm in a rush. I'm hitting it with a razor. now I could do this with just a razor so I consider that to be pretty good I'm not hitting it with the machine

so sometimes I'm in the rush and I'm doing it a lot of people don't appreciate it but it's a lot to keep up and I agree well I think you got railroaded by production in the first I forget first or second episode when you guys are doing the calendar shoot it looked like your beard was painted on like it was

that good it looked that perfect to the point where Steele and I were even talking about it early on what's up with this good guy is he is he drawing in his beard like what the hell happened you know what now that you said i never really looked at that picture but there was always something weird about it and i think you guys just hit it spot on i couldn't figure it out yeah it was it was it was two parts it was one it looked like look i'm not here to tell any man how to wear their beard or facial hair i mean

have to stare at shooters half scruff mustache like weekly it looked like it was drawn on and the second part was if you were it looked like you trim the stash just a little low so it just kind of like hugging the lip a little bit instead of like now it looks great you look fantastic right now nice and full this is ungroomed by the way I am not I came from work I came home I didn't have a chance to groom so this is like my every day it looks good but the thin mustache with the painted on was that we may have commented on it once early on but it wasn't you have you have a picture that handy do you have a picture of that handy that I can see no but I bet we can dig one up and we'll send it to you I want to look at that again I'm curious yeah

Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad you brought it up. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we wanted to get into it because we gave you shit for it in the beginning of the season. So obviously, we're going to air it out now and talk about it. So we want to make sure we give you a fair chance there. But the funny thing is so when we talked, the reason that we caught Joe's eye was because we were talking about how how crazy it was with Louis and specifically just how nuts he actually is. And all we said was, hey, Joe, if you just take a step back and probably don't say anything, this guy's going to bury him.

himself in like two or three sentences. If you just let him talk, he's that crazy. And that caught the eye, I think of Melissa, who then showed it to Joe. And Melissa agreed with us. She's like, I try to get him to not talk all the time. It doesn't really work, but I try. So it's really funny just to see that. And I kind of want to ask for your perspective on this.

When you're filming and obviously you're around this guy in person, is Louie actually that crazy? Like, as he's portrayed on this show or do you think that maybe he gets a bad shake or whatever it might be? um listen i i can't lie i gotta be real i mean listen you want to like the guy you want to give him a chance like most guys do and i did but it's yeah to answer your question yeah he buries himself you don't even have to do anything just let him go so first impression with him were you guys how long was it cool for like were you cool with the guy he seems to get along with people out of the gate

and then over time he either lets his true color show or people kind of see him for who he actually is and the relationship starts to get a little strained like how long were you guys cool for um i think we were cordial i think we were pretty cordial for the first month and a half of filming but we were never like buddy buddy and i think that's why we were good and then eventually it just went south yeah that makes i feel like it's just it's a lot to ask on these shows and everybody always expects on reality shows that everybody's either going to be the best of friends or they're going to absolutely hate each other and there's nothing in between and i feel like what you just said is really kind of

how it is. I mean, there's how many people in real life do we encounter that we're, you know, not buddy, buddy with, but we see them every once in a while. We know that we don't want to actually be close to that person, but we can tolerate them in like an hour or so setting and then just kind of bop off. Right. But when you're forced to kind of be with them and I mean, look, we know we have no idea what next season is going to be. But, you know, in the future, if you're on a trip with everybody and you can't really escape that, I feel like that's when it gets crazy. I wasn't really on a trip with him. So we'll see what the future. has to bring if I'm ever stuck somewhere with them but you know luckily enough for me I wasn't yeah

it's probably for the better so obviously the big news that came out um and it's kind of turned into a lot more after the fact at the reunion um you had a pretty hefty envelope with you and you alluded to louis had contacted your ex in prison and tried to get the scoop i guess on what was going on or tried to dig a little bit deeper before we get to the what's the happened in the past few days, how did you find out that he had contacted your ex? Like, what's the, when did you learn that there was some digging going on behind the scenes? So just to correct that, I didn't just say that he contacted her. So he, you know, I believe that investigation was done on myself and my wife.

And I know it was. And I know it was because when you do an investigation, you pull an Oprah request in townships that you want to find information out. and that Oprah request gets filled out by somebody. And then, you know, I happen to have friends who tell me when these things are happening and there's Oprah requests being filled out. And then you can see who's filling them out. But he didn't just find her.

And I don't, it's not really hard to find an inmate. You can find one. But I think, you know, I personally think it was part of a campaign, a smear campaign that led her to think that there's more for her to come out. I mean, I haven't seen Brittany since 2015. We're in 2023, guys, right? That's a long time that I haven't seen this girl. Haven't heard from her, haven't heard of Pete.

And then all of a sudden she pops up. I think she reached out to me during COVID 2020 on Facebook, if I'm being correct, just to ask how Jaden was and I kept it very short. But that was it. You know, so it's all part of a smear to me that I feel, and I kind of have some further information on. And I think that however they connected to pieces, it's here now and I'm dealing with it.

I think that's super. I mean, honestly, once you break family into it and just digging up dirt on past relationships and everything else that's going on, it's just so sensitive that we were completely behind you, just popping off. And even at the end, when he comes over and does that fake apology and he's like trying to be buddy buddy with everybody,

it's like, no, like you don't get to just do something like this, deny it and then move on and say, hey, man, let's just take a shot. Like, no, it's not really how that's supposed to play. My issue with that was when you walked over to Rachel Jorda reunion, I don't need you to tell my wife she's doing a good job. It's not your position or place in life to walk over to her and tell her she's doing a good job. That's not your place. So I wanted to correct that. And then, you know, with me, I just don't sit here and shake my hand if I feel that this is what's happening. I mean, you should be trying to, if you're a bro or a guy, right, you should be

trying to convince me, listen, this is not what's happening, guys. Maybe your information's mixed up, let's talk about it. Let me help you un-mix it up. Instead of getting so defensive and red about it and, you know, putting out threats, that's not going to make you react well. How red does he get in real life? Like, this is the, my maroon shirt is the... That's a great question to ask. It's how red can someone actually get? I would say he's just as red as your shirt there. This is actually a pretty close color, I think, now that I'm looking at it, I think this is like Louis Red, Louis Maroon.

That's what we're going to call this for now. When we're doing the final episode, I was like, look, and I was like, he's red. He's just so angry. Oh,

at the party? Yeah. Yeah, dude. He was like off his rails at that party. Like, what the fuck happened there? Like, how did that get so out of hand?

Is that just because of the Danielle conversation? Or did Louis come in just like ready to go? My opinion is he came in a little ready to go. He said hello to me. me twice for some odd reason that day. And he walked in, said hello, did a loop around and came back and said hello. He looked extra, extra ready to go. Yeah.

One of the greatest lines that day, I'll never forget, is Louis pointed at the city and told me he'll teach me how to make real money. I'll never forget that. Pointed at New York? He pointed, yeah, because call his rooftop, you can see Manhattan. He said, see that city, I'll teach you how to make real money. I was like, oh. I don't know what it means, man.

It's one of the greatest lines of the night for me, though. Oh, look at that city, John. I'll teach you how to make the big bucks one day, kid. You just see, it's like out of Goodfellas. It's like early on when, like early on in the movie Goodfellas is like, I'll teach you how to make money. You see that city, that's where you're going to be. Yeah, exactly.

And I'm the young guy. I'm just sitting back cool. Like, okay, yeah. I mean, what am I going to say? Like, yeah, you know, sure. Teach me. Oh, my God. What a idiot.

Can you share what was in the on? production, the network, they know it's in the envelope. It was filmed. And I guess stay tuned because if they choose to release it or however they release it, it's not their mercy. Oh, so it has been revealed. We just didn't get to see it. There is a part backstage where some of it was revealed. Wow. Yeah, we always see those envelopes and we always want to know every piece of information that's in those things. It looked like Marge had one. Obviously, you had one. We see them across pretty much all over the Bravoverse. So we're always always curious to see what's in those envelopes because they pop up so often and it's just so funny.

But yeah, go ahead. The weird part is with these envelopes, right? Like you're on this set, right? It's my first time on this set. Guys, I got this on. What am I going to do? I blow out every sheet and like sit there for two, three days. Like, it's also really not the right setting, I guess.

You know, you would have to almost, it's just a weird setting. It's really not the place for it. Well, whose idea was it to go with the envelope? Was it yours? well i was hoping if i really needed to fire out some ammo i could but you know again i've never done it before we were not out there as long as i thought we would be and there's kind of a quick little thing but it's good you became prepared like if you watch the previous reunions all the people that know what they're doing they always come with receipts and they bring them either in a

box some people like bedazzle the box oh yeah like to see that out of you next season if i would love for you i'll take that note i got you yeah and just like a couple of bedazzles on there so i know I'm like, ah, you remembered. He remembered us. I got you. Next year, I'm going to put a couple of diamonds on there for you. There you go. When you make enough money in New York, yeah.

Exactly. I got to keep taking notes. I can't afford it. I can't afford it. But yeah, more about this season. So obviously, you're a newbie, just going into it, just kind of figuring out what you want to do. Specifically with your storyline with your wife and obviously your son and the whole

adoption scene, which Steele and I talked about a lot, it's such it's such a touching moment and i feel like a lot of people either online or even on the show we're kind of pointing to like why now like why is rachel trying to do all of this now do you think that obviously you know what timeline wise like it makes sense to you you're just kind of going through the motions and just making sure that it gets done appropriately but what do you what's your response to the people out there that are saying like did she just do this for the show just to have a storyline or is this real like what what's your kind of your thought process when you look at things like that. Well, my thought process is, to be honest, guys, we're real people.

Like, we don't sit there and like, what can I do this year? What can I stir up? Like, no, I'm sorry. I got better things to do. And so does she. To be honest with you, you know, we got married in 17. You know, we were building our house. We got into this house. COVID hit. You know, so there really wasn't an opportunity to do it when you had COVID in the way, right? Then, you know, pushed them to show. Finally, things calmed down. We filed for it. Our first, attorney who we hired said that it wasn't an easy process and it couldn't be done and to stay out of it. Then I went to another attorney, kind of gave me to run around. Then the third attorney that I found, Devin, which was awesome, you know, made it seem as easy as it was and it went through.

But in the end of the day, you know, I don't need a piece of paper to say that Chaden's mom is Rachel. I don't need it. Anyone can say whatever they want. We just made it final and that's cool. But in the end of the day, I made that decision in 2015 and then 2017 when we got married. Absolutely. That's when that decision was made, you know, and then everybody comes up with my name change. That's the next big scoop that they got. It's the most interesting information they have, you know. It changed my name because we got married in 2017. I kept my last name as my middle name. So my full name was Jonathan Ross Deatria. I was raised. I was raised, by the Futa family. I always

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I changed my name. And then once I did that, it was because we got married in 2017 and I wanted to start my new family and I had the family crest, the Fuda Crest, and I wanted to start everything the right way. So I did it in 2017. I changed my name at that point to honor my grandfather Joseph. I'm Amy Nicholson, the film critic for the LA Times. And I'm Paul

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Search for Raiders of the Lost Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. So my name now is Jonathan Diatriya Fuda. So for all those who think I'm hiding from my past, why would I keep my last name as my middle name? When I started to see all this stuff come out, the first thing that struck my eye was like, all right, well, this doesn't seem super regrettable. Like it's only the one thing of the name change

was like somebody pretty much just screenshot their own phone and then posted that. And then the other one was this alleged felony that you committed at some point. and that's why you changed your name. I'm a felon, watch it. Yeah, well, you know, don't fuck with us. But we saw it come out, and the first thing I said to myself was like,

I mean, I could go on Microsoft Word right now and write the same exact thing with the shooter's name in it and post that. And, like, we actually got into, not trouble, but we caused a bit of a stir during the scandal of all thing because Tom had allegedly talked to this one account who was well known for being a troll, and he comes out, like, just when it's convenient for him and makes these really outrageous claim.

What's his name? Patrick, Patrick Summers. Yeah, Patrick Summers is this dude that came out and said that he had sex with Harry Hamlin, Lisa Renna's husband during Beverly Hills. And then he came out and posted an alleged DM between him and Sandoval. And it was like, you fucked my friend and you need to like own up to it. And like she got an abortion. It was crazy.

But it was clearly fake. So I did the same thing. I copied and pasted the exact DM from him. and put shooter in it and shooter was defending me and people thought that was real like it went viral people like who is this guy like who's the fuck of steel who is shooter like all this crazy shit so that someone was like oh my god i didn't even realize a sand of all is gay or is he by it's like it didn't actually have sexual shooter this is this is true proving a point how easy it is the photoshop stuff now seeing all this come out and then other bravo accounts have come out

and says they found evidence on the matter. We'd love to hear from you regarding this alleged felony, the name change that goes along with, that you addressed that. But just can you clear this up for us, please? Yeah, well, I'm not a convicted felon at all. So what they posted, they actually left out the bottom of it. So there's actually two more lines in that same exact report that says it was dismissed.

So, you know, like any other juvenile kid, all right, I got in trouble when I was a juvenile, got myself into a couple, things going to an adolescent stage got myself involved in a couple things fights and this and that and someone took it posted it and left out the part where it says dismissed to paint a picture of me i'm not a convicted felon at all yeah that it that happens all the time and i love the way that you approach these things because this never happens in bravo where all this bullshit comes out and people just don't talk about it like nobody ever addresses it you're immediately you're just like no this is what happened.

I'll tell you exactly about the name change. I'll tell you about the convicted felon issue, whatever's going on. I love that because we need more of that to go forward because how many times Steele and I'll sit down and talk about something that has absolutely no validity? We'll talk about it for like a half an hour and then a week later, somebody else will dismiss it. And it's like, all right, whatever. Like why do we actually care about these things?

Does it actually affect us? Does it affect the show? Does it matter? Who cares? But when it comes to Bravo, people love if it's a reality TV show to just. just start digging into your past like what happened here we got to know more about this guy you don't really see that as much with athletes which is wild you might see something pop up somebody might fake a claim in that year but you don't see things from their past pop up bravo is like

a completely different atmosphere with this stuff no you guys should do bravo facts you know you have car facts you should have bravo facts on all of us moving forward like a baseball car that would be great yeah we oh we can collect baseball cards baseball cards we should absolutely make baseball cards you bravo baseball cards is a good fucking idea yeah we'll cut you like you put all my stats on the back don't forget to give me the idea yeah training cards a little bit and don't worry at the big bucks at the very bottom we'll say case was dismissed we'll put a little asterisk that we'll make sure that nobody knows it's like when i was 13 i got arrested for going on the roof of a uh closed down kmart and i got handcuffed and put in the back of the car and i had it on my record i had to do

parole. I was 13. They made me do parole for six months. I had to call an officer every week because Yeah, but you needed it. You were a danger to society. I mean, you ever get arrested? No, I've never been arrested. And up. Really? It's funny. So all of our friends in high school, every time that they got in trouble, like when they got arrested for drinking and shit, were the only nights that shooter and I did not go out. And it happened three separate times. Me and him didn't go out because of baseball or something else and our friends called us like at two in the morning like dude we just got arrested like so-and-so's like going down to the station like sucks yeah we avoided it pretty much like all throughout high school but when i was 13 i did get you know i got in there i do want to ask

because we saw with daniel and food to being we call rachel and you fooda on our show because it's just an easier name to say um but everybody's rachel and yeah it's easier by the way that's Since I was a kid, it's been Fuda. That's all I know. Hey, Fuda. I think it's because we're from the Northeast and we like do the same shit like with our friends that have certain names. You just call them by the way. It's just, you know, inherently their last name is just what you refer to them as.

So like Fuda just makes sense to me. We saw Danielle and Rachel will get close in the beginning. They seem to be the newbies. They were getting along. And then shit kind of went crazy because, you know, you got Therese involved. You got margin involved. You got a lot of nonsense behind the scenes there. But where do they stand?

today like we saw the reunion they were going to kind of make peace and like come back together or at least give it a shot how are they today um i mean if we're around them it's cordial it's cordial they're not best friends but if we're around them everything's cordial yeah because we were when we saw that in the beginning of the season we got excited thinking that the newbies were going to gang up against the old guard and take them down and we had all these pipe dreams laid out for seasons to come i mean we were pumped honestly like this is the first time actually Yeah. And this is this is credit to you and your wife. This is the first time in a long time that we've actually had newbies come into a show like this, something that's been around for so long and actually do well. Like Rachel handled herself so well in all these different situations, all this bullshit that came through. You handled yourself well. Like we said, Jersey is a premier husband show. And then even Danielle and Nate, we could we could use a little bit more from Nate, but he seems like more of a low profile key, low key guy. But the two of them killed it. And we were so excited to see. that because we've had so much of, you know, these women that have been on for years and years

spewing the same nonsense over and over again and we got tired of it that we finally saw some fresh faces pop up and start to stir the pot in different ways. We were pumped about it. So you guys have to be excited about your future. You guys have to kind of look back at this season and be like, yeah, that was that was actually a lot of fun. Or do you look back at it and you're like, ah, you know, maybe we got to figure some shit out. I mean, listen, it's definitely unique. It was definitely fun and had its highs and lows. Like I think a lot of things in life has, right? But, I mean, listen, we had fun doing it. It's definitely an interesting experience. And we got a bunch of questions from our listeners who are all very intrigued by this

whole thing. So wait, but while Seals reading those, John, I got a question for you. I saw you in a Brooklyn Nets jersey. Are you a fan? Do like the Nets. You know, that's an old picture. I do like them. All right. Well, how does it feel to go from a super team to absolutely enough thing and you have Ben Simmons. Wow. It's like a New York thing sometimes, you know? New York happens here, right? Knicks haven't done a damn thing in years.

No. At least you have something on that. The Giants are falling off. You know, they go up and then they fall right down. Oh, you're a Giants fan? I am a Giants fan. My stepdad's a Giants fan. You guys aren't even relevant anymore, so I'm not going to say anything mean.

I don't know what happened. We were doing great. and then, yeah, right off the charts. Yeah, you lost three times to a certain team that went to the Super Bowl. But, you know, it's fine. It's all right. From Max June, besides Louis, who's your least favorite house husband? It can be in any franchise.

We don't have to pin you down to Jersey. I don't know if I have one. To be honest, I really don't judge the guys like that or not like them. Be honest, I give everybody a fair shot, man. I'm just, you know, we're going out somewhere, and I don't get along with them, we make the best of it. That's just the type of guy I am. I'm really not the type of guy.

Like, I don't like that guy. You know, it's not really my character. I didn't get that. That's actually, I think, why when you reacted to Louie, it seemed, we judge everything when we're watching, like reactions, if they seem genuine or not, if they're real, if someone's just trying to do it for airtime, your response to him with how you handled yourself because it wasn't over the top, but clearly you were upset. I think that is a big indicator for us of like a genuine,

moment where you're like just dude like what the fuck like if you want to talk to my wife and tell her she's doing a great job like the least you can do is like shake my hand and then you're walking away it's like he just guys are fucking snake like this is unbelievable like that the whole interaction to me seemed 100% real because i could see myself like with the same reaction like dude what the fuck like what are we doing here who are you what's going on like it didn't seem like one of those scripted moments where you're just like throwing shit across the room and flipping a table and yelling at the guy like you actually seemed like he has set you so i got ADHD i can't follow a script man what you see from me is what you get i give it to you

straight i don't have anything written you know him he crossed the line with me and i just had enough of his bullshit and his fakeness oh this is a nice one i like this one from sarah pod as a stepmom i'd love to hear your perspective on rachel's relationship with your son and i would too i think it's a it's a pretty special thing so i am so lucky to have met rachel at 23 years old she's step up to the plate and took Jaden in as if it was her own. She picked him up from school. She dropped them off. And this, you know, she attended school meetings. I mean, she, from day one, this girl has stepped in and earned her keep. She's got a great relationship with him now. I'd be honest, I think her relationship is sometimes better than mine with him. And I'm just being honest

with everybody. Now, he's, he has a relationship with he'll tell her different things that he won't tell me. They speak about a lot more than the things he'll speak to me about. Like, you know, to me, he's like a normal 16-year-old boy. I'll talk to me about going out, girls, this and that, but he won't talk to me about some of the other things he goes through in life. Where with her, he talks to her about everything. So I got to be honest, I think their relationship is amazing. I think it's better than mine.

And I give her a lot of credit for what she's done. Yeah, and I just saw one come across here. This is a funny one. I don't know if you've seen this movement since the reunion, but people are calling you the number one guy in the group, which is a funny thing to say across all of Brawomen. So this one actually comes from Lynn Sen. Is it hard being the number one guy in the group?

Well, I don't know. I mean, I haven't been number one long enough, I guess, if I'm going to answer that question. But I'm also, look, I also have respect to my boundaries, right? I walked into this group. I don't want to be number one. I'm just here to hang out, have a good time, and be me. That's all I want. You know, this is, you know, I got respect for, like, Joe Gorgh.

He's been on this for 13 years. That's a long time. he's been doing this for you know yeah i got respect for frank catania i have respect for joe beningo i mean he's a great guys really true hard people evan is amazing he's a great guy as well you know so i don't need to be number one i don't need the title i have fun i give it to you straight that's it what you see is what you get with me yeah how funny was it at uh at joe's house when joe gorga got high for the first time and just completely lost his train of thought that was funny that was funny because he swore he wasn't going to do it and one hit just put him over the edge

and it's funny because he could drink like crazy but the smoking uh doesn't work too well on him yeah yeah i didn't understand that marge takes up arms against jen for smoking weed but then hosts like a weed party at her house where they they bring a munchy truck and all that shit but it looked like a blast did you guys done that again since well marge wasn't home if you noticed she was away So since she was gone, we decided to have fun. And if there's anyone's house, anyone's house to get high in, it's hers. There's a lot going on in that house. You know, she's got a lot of designs going.

So there's a lot of things to touch and look at. I was more interested in the food truck. Like, we need to do that. We need to take gummies and, like, rent a food truck that it just has munchies shooter. I'm talking to you. The food truck was clutch, man. That thing was amazing that it was there. It was clutch.

she would probably freak out if she was home that day. I'm sure she would have went nuts. But she tried to take responsibility for the food truck. She says that, yeah, I ordered them like a munchy cart. Yeah, she did what's going on. Maybe it's one of those things that she knows what's going on, but she's not there to actually see it. I think she tried to be cool after the fact.

It's like when a parent, you know, sometimes parents will let the kids have a party, right? Exactly. And leave a little liquor behind. Exactly. I'll save that one for the last one. That's funny. Oh, from Dak Attack, which housewife was the nicest to you? At the existing cast, right?

The existing, yeah, yeah, or both, since if someone else has been nicer. Melissa. Yeah, and I'm not just saying, I mean, honestly, I had a relationship with her, but she's been the most open-armed to me. It's not a question, I guess. Lady Katie Hare, have you always been this sexy, John? Oh, damn. I guess, yeah, you know. I guess this is me.

I wake up like this and I'm here. Just the number one guy in the group glow that's coming off you these days. It's just a different air about you now that you're a headhog show in Jersey. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I love online. They call me Mo from the Simpsons. They're very creative mode.

They call me Homer, Shrek, No Chin. You know, there's so many fans. I love it. How do you get Mo Sizzlack from you? I don't understand that one. I don't really get it either. I don't get Moe either. I don't get Mo. I can't get it. I don't get Mo. Mo doesn't make sense. No. I don't get Homer either, to be honest. Besides the bold head, I don't really get the

Homer thing either. I don't get any of them. Nah, people are stretching. Don't worry about them. Yeah, you look great. The sexist guy group. Yeah. That's it. I got thick skin, boys. Don't worry. I'm not worried about any of that. Hell yeah. Let me ask you guys a question. You guys ever take a shot with you're uh with anybody on this thing i haven't i i'm four and a half year sober you're going to have to talk to that guy i just i just moved so i don't have any booze in my place unfortunately all right all right yeah i know next not a bad idea we'll get you on you'll be you'll be a recurring guest we'll get you on later in the summer after we figure everything out we'll do that next time we will definitely take yeah we will have a shot with you i'll do i'll do a

shot of water it's so stupid i hate that that like there needs to be an alternative for sober people to do so i know i'm not complaining about not being able to drink it's just like many people are like oh we got shots it's like we got you a water i'm like yay like there needs to be a more celebratory drink for sober people than a water but i don't like you got to create that you've got to make it you're giving us all kinds of ideas today you need to be like our business manager on the side yeah we'll go with the trading cards first we'll use that capital that we get there to uh to start off uh what you're talking about a shop for sober people and then we'll go to louis and we'll invest it in some pizza ovens and take over new york

city it's the weirdest thing guys i created cameo right and i have people that are pitching me on ideas they're paying and they're going i have this idea would you invest in it i actually kind of like it now because it's like wow what kind of ideas we got today it's really is cool they'll pay you like 20 they'll pay you like 20 bucks just to pitch an idea and then you'll be like yeah whatever yeah i'm like okay let's do it How many people, how many people have asked to see your feet on cameo? To see my feet? Yeah.

Yeah, we get that. None so far. None. I think that's one of the other sites. What's that other site that they have? That's only fans. But we've gotten asked. That's an only fans thing.

We've gotten asked on cameo three separate times to show our feet. One of them is like, if you're not comfortable doing it here, we can do it on like Skype or something else. I was like, we're good. Really? Thank you, though. Yeah. So we went up, we went up to Fire Island too and took a picture of the two of us and we weren't wearing shoes and people were commenting on Instagram.

Like, look of those feet. Nice feet boys. We're like, oh, God damn it. Yeah. A lot of feet people. Yeah, I just didn't know if you got any cameo feat requests. And if you, the good thing is, if we all are ever hurting for money, I think there is a market there.

And we could do that too, the real, real feat of Bravo. And we'll just start that account. and then we'll all get rich. There you go. Let me find one last one here. It's a lot of people just asking to see what's in the envelope. Yeah, most people just want what's in the envelope. But Sarah from the block asks,

how does the experience of being on the show compare to you and Rachel's expectations? The expectations, it's definitely different than what we planned for once we knew we were going on. There's a lot of drama involved. this is all, like, real, you know, I didn't plan for this. It's kind of, like, sucks in a way, because I really wanted to go on and, like, have fun. Like, the Miami cast, I feel like there's always having fun. I want to go have fun, you know? That's really kind of what I want to do.

Yeah. Our expectations were not this, but we're going through it now. To follow up on that one, Jersey and a lot of the shows in general over the past year and a half, ever since we started, really, have kind of taken this weird turn where they're so hyper-focused on trauma. and like seemingly dark shit like it's not fun and light we don't get as many of the the reprieves as we used to it's a lot more oh seemingly overproduced stuff do you feel like jersey has kind of fallen victim to that where the focus is so much on the drama that we don't get as many of like the fun like you and the boys smoking weed and like the girls actually going out

and having fun like that one night in ireland they had a good time other than that it was all drama the whole time. Do you think that there's a path forward with this crew where it's more lighthearted? We don't get all the serious shit all the time where we can actually have fun and then you guys aren't, you know, picking up the pieces after the season like you are now. Listen, this crew can have fun. These girls can have fun. They're fun people. You know, I have fun. I have a lot of fun. And I'm telling you, they can have fun, they can have fun. It's just adjustments have to be made, you know, attitude's got to be adjusted along the way. And, and, you know, And I think even with everybody on it, you could still have fun.

I don't even think, I think you could still make it work. Just people have to check themselves. But if that wasn't to happen, then, you know, certain people would have to go. And I think it would get a lot funner. And I would love to see a little bit more youth. My wife and I, Danielle and her husband were bringing in the youth. You know, the Gorgas on the young side. We have a lot of fun still.

But I think we could just go out and have a good time and hang out. And I think it would be great. yeah that's that's what we want to get back to and that's why again like that's why we were so excited for you guys to come into the fold daniel to come into the fold seem like kids were back and they weren't you know teenagers teenagers or 22 year olds just trying to get their spotlight it was actually a good family values type of thing that makes us feel so much better watching those scenes watching you know something real with family because it helps us to kind of identify who we like and who we don't like and if we see more about that then we might be able to kind of latch

on to you guys and back you when you get into the things that are inevitable, obviously, you're going to get into arguments and issues with other women on the show, other husbands on the show. But if we get to see those core values, we back you guys up so much more. So that's what we need more of. Yeah. Listen, I'm all for having a good time, man. You know, I would love to go out. You know, sometimes I have business in Miami. I go there sometimes. My wife comes with me. We go out for the night, two nights. We have a great time, come back home. I would love to do that with a group that wants to have fun. Is there a specific couple that you?

you feel is holding back this group? Well, I think everybody could read in between the lines, you know. I don't think, I don't think I need to go and spell it out. Oh, yeah. Just one. I want to throw one of them out there. But anything, you got anything to plug, Johnny, got anything coming up? Anything like?

That could be an interview. It could be you're going to do something for your business, just like a plug, something you want to get out to the people. Any charities, anything you got? We suck it. We always forget to plug ourselves. That's all. I want to thank everybody for the support that I've gotten.

And, you know, my wife and I are very grateful for it. And just keep on watching. Keep on staying tuned. Perfect. Yeah, well, thank you very much for giving us the time. We were both big fans of yours throughout the entire season. We supported everything pretty much that was coming from you. So keep up the good work.

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