Bros & Shows - John Fugazi vs Tre and The Stumps (RHONJ Full Recap)

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

What's up Bros? We are back with Jersey and the Fuda's and Teresa still have some beef. Meanwhile, Jackie has decided she wants to be team Tre now and is trying to cozy up to Teresa. Dolores presses Paulie about the divorce and his reaction was not at all what we expected. Danielle has her fashion show for NY Fashion Week and Bougie Kidz, Fessler and Jen Aydin continue to get close as Jen things Fesslers a 'hoot and a half'. We're seeing Jen spread her wings more as she attempts to make new friends... Or is it a play? The episode ends with a sit down between families. Fudas and Tre and Louie. Fuda wants an apology, Tre wants an apology. Will they ever be able to see eye to eye? All that and more on todays episode! Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join Time Stamps: Intro (0-14:50) RHONJ (14:54) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-house. host Steele Russell joined as always by the one and only scoots me goots what's up dude live show week yeah baby back in the stew obviously there was some travels things going on yesterday yes traveling at the end of the week too look at us just traveling around just traveling boys

the traveling bros if you will i'm stoked for boston i can't wait as we said on our episode yesterday we will be at the red socks fillies game on thursday night so keep an eye out for two bros in overall short overalls short overalls short overalls it's a very important distinction i had to keep making when i was explaining what i was wearing yeah and i don't know if everyone understands what we mean by that because i said it to a couple of people today and they're like what do you mean are they like shorter i'm like no they're shorts but overalls yes so look for two distinguished fine gentlemen in short overalls and yeah actually i want to make a game out of it if you're there try to find us i think it would be funny if you take pictures and you tag us like

from afar, we'll repost it. Yes, definitely, 100%. Thousand percent. But I'm super excited for Boston. I love Boston. I got drafted in Fenway Park, as I've said before. So it's like a homecoming for me. No?

I don't know about that. No, it is. That's how it works. That's definitely all works. I started making the face again because I think this is the seventh time we've heard this. I'm going to say it every time. How many times do you get drafted? Yeah, so I'm going to brag about it.

But no, I'm excited for Boston because this is the first one. I feel like, you know, we've done some Philly shows. We did New York. We've been to Philly. We've been to New York a bunch. DC, it was raining like crazy, and we had to get back anyway. But this is a nice one. We get to go up.

We get to enjoy the city for a little while. We'll be in great spirits. The show is going to be a lot of fun. And as we've said before, obviously, it's sold out. But it's a little more intimate. There's not as many seats there. So everybody gets a nice close view. We'll be able to interact with the crowd from front to back as we usually do.

And it's going to be a great time. Yeah, I actually like the smaller venues. Not, but I don't like the big ones, too. It's just a different vibe. It's more of like a hangout. Don't worry. It's still going to be a show. But, yeah, I'm looking forward to the smaller venue.

I'm looking forward to being able to bop around the city a little bit. Are you coming back Saturday or Sunday? Sunday. Oh, you're staying through the weekend. We're coming back Saturday. Boo. Dev's got a big work week. And your boys got a baseball game on Sunday that simply cannot.

No, no, that was actually not the deciding back. That's the reason. I was going to miss the game to stay in Boston. All right. We had to get back. So it's, you know, mutually beneficial. because how else will the 28-Nover Northampton Angels win the title? That's a good point.

A really good point. I'll be thinking about you while I'm, you know, enjoying a nice day on Sunday. What are you guys going to do? Do you have any plans like planned? Not really. No. Probably grab dinner Saturday night, but other than that, it's just kind of go with the flow. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it.

So I would say if you haven't gotten tickets, they'll get your tickets. But that bad boy is sold out. So if you are missing out on this show, we're taking the rest of the summer off with live shows, but we're coming back in September. So keep a lookout for updates as far as that goes. And the biggest news for today, well, I guess this was last night, so you missed it already. But we had our brav-brose first community Zoom last night, and it went amazing.

It hasn't happened yet, but I'm telling you right now. It was incredible. It was life-changing. There were no technical difficulties whatsoever. Zero. Well, I don't think that's Zoom. I mean, time will tell. But if you haven't signed up for Brof Bros members yet and you want to be part of our next community Zoom,

make sure you click the link in our bio or at the bottom of the show description so that you can join in on the fun. It is $5 for the month, $50 for the year, join in, have some phone with the bros. We are, what, 30 away? Yeah, it went up a little bit more today. So I think we're about 30, 33 until we get to 250. And once we get to 250, we're going to do our first bromance episode, which right now it looks like, how to lose a guy in 10 days. I know that 10 things I hate about you.

I don't know what it is with number 10, but that is a close second. Oh, I thought it was bridesmaid at second. Bridesmaids tied with, yeah, I know. It's crazy. It's a crazy top three. That's a great. That's such a good time.

I'm so excited to do this, and I'm so excited that that is what the first three of us show out. One of our YouTube listeners, viewers, whatever you want to call them, pointed out, and we need to add this to the list, love and basketball. Oh. Oh, we can do that for the next go-round because we're not just going to do, you know, the top three.

We'll do another survey because there's going to be new people coming in. So we want to make sure we keep that thing fresh. So we'll put Love and Basketball on there, too. Love and Basketball is one of my favorites. So it's like Peak Omar Epps. It's a phenomenal film. So that's going to be added to the list. And that's the other part of this whole thing.

If you want to add some movies in there. Is that the one with Josh Hartnett? No. What am I thinking of? I don't know. Loving Basketball is a, it's about. Oh, Basketball Diaries. Sorry.

No, that's Leonardo DiCaprio. Fuck. What is the one with Josh Hartman? That's going to bother me. Airbud. Yeah, Airbud, yeah. That is, if you think about it, it could be a rom-com. Airbud's a rom-com between a boy and his dog.

A boy and his dog. Yeah. That movie made me cry when I was a kid. Really? Why? When the dog leaves because he gets rid of the dog because the guy... He gets drafted? No.

That didn't happen in the movie. But when the creepy clown guy comes, to take the dog back, remember? Yeah, but then the dog gets back out and it's a happy ending. No, I know it's a happy ending, but in that moment, it was very upsetting. That is kind of traumatizing for a child. I mean, that and old Yeller, I've got some trauma. That's just sad.

Yeah, that one's just sad. There's no happy ending there. No, he didn't, I don't, why do they let the kids shoot the dog? I don't know. Spoiler alert for Old Yeller. I guess it's a nod of mice and men, maybe? I don't, I have no idea. That's what you think that was?

Yeah, maybe. Although old yeller wasn't biting anybody. I don't know. I've got nothing for you. Oh, God. Anywho, we're here to talk about Jersey, not sad dog movies. Marley and me. Fuck.

Actually, you know what? We're just going to cancel this episode. Yeah, I'm sad now. Bye. No, we're here to talk about Jersey, which is also kind of a bummer. But I didn't hate this episode. I thought it was fine. It was a lot of light stuff, which I'm okay with.

I actually did enjoy the last scene between the Fudas and the, I, I don't know what to call Teresa and Louie. It's just Teresa. You can just say it's between John Fuda and Teresa. That's pretty much what it was. Our newest housewife, John Fuda, and Teresa went out at it at the end. But there's been a lot of discussion around Jersey on social media, not so much about the episodes themselves. And that's what's interesting.

Usually during the season, you're getting people talking about what's going on on screen. More of what we're hearing about is obviously the social media stuff between content creators and the cast. We're also hearing about people being unhappy with it, what they're. the future of the show is going to look like, who's going to be on the show, do they need a cash shake up, do they need to reboot it entirely, do they need to pause it? So on and so forth. So it's getting media buzz, but not for the right reasons. Yeah, no, I would definitely agree with that. And I'm still so fucking tired of hearing about the stupid social media things because we know the whole cast does it. And those screenshots that were put up, I could make

those screenshots in 10 seconds. I agree with that. But it's also not how I message works. It doesn't say somebody's full name on there. It says a letter. No, I know that they can be fabricated. I just don't give a shit. Well, that's what bugs me is that you don't give a shit because I think it's pretty I know you care. You care enough for both of us. I see our posts. No, because

here's the thing that's like actually an issue and like what the difference is between other shows that we've seen them working with content careers. Because yeah, it does happen across the board. There's monetary exchanges happening between them and this has been going on for a decade. So I think it's a bigger

It could just be bullshit, too. It's not bullshit. There's no way it's bullshit. Look, I don't think it's bullshit. The message is between Jen Aiden and her correspondents. Again, could be fabricated. No, those were legitimate. The ones were to recent.

Because there's a list of them. And the other thing is, Jen Aidan didn't come out and say that they were fabricated. She actually responded to a DM and went off on one of these content creators and said, I bought you a stroller and this and that and this and that. Maybe. Not maybe. It's still maybe.

And I don't, the reason that I don't care is because I know everyone does. it. So I just don't give a shit. I think that it's a pretty significant thing considering the state of the show and then that comes out. I think it's worth discussing and every time I do, you shoot it down and it's honestly frustrating. Is it? Yeah, it is. It's not that it's not that I'm shooting you down. I just know for a fact in my heart that every fucking franchise does this. I agree that that that's why I'm like, it's still an even playing field. And the reason that it's coming out now, if you're going to say that it's not because of the other side of this fucking stupid show that has teams on it, then that would also be crazy.

The only reason this stuff's coming out now is probably because Melissa and Marge are paying them to put it out there. More than likely. So, like, that's why I don't care because it's a zero-sum game. Yes, there's quote-unquote receipts out there, but I just don't care because, one, everybody does it. And two, the show's not getting renewed right now. So it's really not something that matters to me.

I think the overall frustration for me with the whole thing is somebody, I think it was Queens of Bravo or something today posted. A quote from a former New York housewife, and it was talking about what housewives used to be. It was like, let's film some housewives doing some fun shit. They get in some drama. But it's all on camera, and it's all just, like, it's for entertainment value. Now we've reached this point, and maybe that's why it, like, strikes a nerve with me, where it's, like, they're hiring investigators. They're hiring all of these, like, content creators.

They're hiring all these people behind the scenes not to drum up fun drama. but to try to ruin people's lives and like that's not why we watch these shows to see who's going to win like we watch these shows to see wacky shit happening and fun drama and then fun parties and then lavish lifestyles like that's what this was about yeah one point or another and across the board it's gotten away from that and that's why i bring it back to jersey every time because jersey sets the tone if they're doing that on jersey other people follow suit because Jersey's one of the heaviest hitters. Jersey, Beverly Hills, O.C.

But that's the other thing is everybody, even if they're not paying content creators, they're still using social media to get their point across more than what they would do on screen, i.e. O.C. with Tamara on her podcast. She saved so much shit for the podcast to just put out there. And then she wants to just drag somebody else's life. Like, no, we know what you're doing. You're either drumming up interest into your podcast or you're trying to save things for the show or vice versa. So you're living in two different worlds. And I think that's just the reality that we live in now with social media and how easily accessible everything is and how easily fabricated things are too where you can just make shit up and just put screenshots

out there and ruin someone's life you could say somebody somebody's husband is cheating by putting ex-husband talking to this only fans model and you're like what the fuck's going on here nothing actually somebody just made this up so it just sucks that that's how it is and look there are still franchises out there that are doing really well Miami one of them that's one of our favorites. And again, I think that is what needs to happen is people need to start turning their attention to the franchises that are giving us what we want. I agree. And what we love and what the reason that we like watching Housewife shows and the ones that aren't giving that to us and they're giving us this inorganic bullshit and they're doing things behind the scenes and they're clumsy about

it or they're paying people or whatever, we just have to stop watching them. Yeah, I agree. And I think that a good example, then we'll jump into this episode is if this like food, food, a drug dealer stuff happened only on screen and we weren't reading about it daily from them posting about it, them complaining about it. It would be a fun storyline. It would be a fun feud between two people like, oh, she keeps calling him a drug

dealer and he's saying she's the poster child for mortgage fraud. That would land a lot better if I didn't have to read about it every single day from their individual accounts. That's where I get frustrated. I think it would. I think it definitely would be at least a little more tolerable. I still have the issue of John Fuda is a husband

talking to a housewife. I agree with that. There's no space in this show for that. And that's what pisses me off. And look, we talk about Jersey all the time. It used to be, all right, let's get a little reprieve and go hang out with the husbands. And now the husbands are so intertwined now. And you have one of them leading the charge against Teresa, who is New Jersey. That's kind of pissing me off regardless.

But yeah, I do agree if this, all the social media ship was aside, at least we'd have something to talk about and be like, whoa, what's this all about? Correct. What happened there? That's the root of it probably for me, why I get so, like, up in arms about it. Because it's like, save some shit for the screen. And I saw that they warned the Atlanta cast, like the producers said, if you don't keep things close to the chest, we are going to recast the whole show.

Yeah. Like, you need to keep it under wraps. There has to be a threat in there somewhere. You got to put some fear into them. You got to do something to change it up so that we're not learning about everything that's happening six months before we get to watch it happen. Because then what are we watching for? It's like when you see a preview for a movie and you can always tell a bad movie. when the preview has the entire storyline in it.

If you know what happened in the movie from a two-minute preview, that's a bad movie. That's a problem. Yeah. And that's what's happening with these shows. There's way too much info. Leave some to the imagination. And so we can talk about stuff.

That's why we're renting right now. You know, one of my biggest gripes is watching like a five-minute long Instagram reel or TikTok, and it's half of the damn episode. Oh, yeah. I don't understand. Let me watch it during me up. And like, I get it. I kind of ask for it by not watching the episode when it airs.

but if it's two or three days before the episode airs and they put that out there, I'm annoyed. I disagree because now you can go on Peacock and watch extended versions of everything where there's pivotal information in it that they leave out intentionally so you go to Peacock. And especially the reunions,

I know it's reunion season right now for a couple different shows, the reunions are so much better on Peacock because they can curse. I know. I don't want to hear bleeps. No, I'm an adult. It hits a lot harder,

but it hits a lot harder when you hear the actual F-BOR. I think that's the first time we've said F word, not just said it. It felt right there. Yeah, it felt weird to say the actual F word. I think I actually said it. It would feel a lot harder. I was with you on that one, yeah.

So that's called having feel. But let's jump into this awesome episode of Jersey. And we start out with a quick touch on the Gorgas. They are pretty much an all-male house now that they've got Antonia out of the house at school. But they're recapping the brunch. The first, like, 15 minutes of this episode is different groups talking about the brunch from last episode. And they're discussing specifically the setup that Danielle called out Teresa and Jen Aden at the table, which I really appreciated the fact that she just brought it to their attention rather than speculating, talking to five other people about it, and then being buddy, buddy with Teresa. It seems like Danielle is kind of separating herself from everybody.

Sort of, yeah. I mean, she still has Melissa as a friend, it seems like, based off of the fashion show. but you don't really see her then that's the funny thing too when we get into the fashion show thing it just doesn't matter to me because like melissa's going to show up but you know it's just going to be nice and it's going to go back and forth but daniel's not doing anything with the group it's just really weird because we get we ask for that right yeah we ask for people to separate from the teams and try to be somewhere in the middle like fessler's doing but daniel is not doing that somehow and i can't really put my thumb on it yeah it's an interesting route that she's taking i actually

don't hate it. I enjoyed the boogie kids scene more than I thought I would. But I don't know. The child models always freak me out. You know what? Bugged me about that scene. The first kid that came out and did like the Vogue. I was like, not bad. It was more so when she says the line, the fashion company sent me more models. Yeah. And it's children. I was like, I don't love that. Or when she didn't realize that her show was starting and she's like, oh, fuck, is it our turn? And there's like 10 kids. I actually kind of like that. That's kind of funny. That was real. But you know, it is what it is and it's going to be interesting to see where she fits in with this group because right now it just seems like a solo show of daniel mixed in with the rest of the show yeah and like even with melissa

showing up there it's not a scene in which it's like oh it's melissa and daniel it's like daniel's got a thing and Melissa came to support but beforehand it was daniel solo and afterwards it's daniel so and also there wasn't and i thought there was going to be and sorry for jumping around a little bit but i thought melissa was going to say to daniel what about that brunch the other day Like, we didn't really even get that. It was just, it was just like a great show. Thanks for showing up. You know, I feel like I'm close with Melissa.

Boom, done. But to me, it would even highlight, like, oh, if they did more of this with each individual cast member where you're going to something in their life where it's not drama-centric, in between all the bullshit, I think it would make for a much more watchable show. Because I, there was something about that. I wasn't, like, enamored with it, but at the same time, I was like, oh, this is nice. And sometimes it's nice just to be nice. That's a good point. Yeah, and we're not going to get that next week with Joe and Melissa's housewarming party because they're just going to talk about Teresa the whole time.

Yeah, I mean, that's what this show has turned into is everyone talking about Teresa and Teresa talking about everybody else. But we get to Teresa and Jackie, and oh, my God. Yeah, dude. This is a thirsty scene. She is parched. Get that woman some Gatorade because my God. You told me a year ago that I was going to be doing this?

I wouldn't even understand. I wouldn't know how to take it. Then why are you doing it? She walks in the door and her confession goes, I'm really excited to be hanging. you out with Teresa. I want to be surrounded by nice people. Then get off the show because the only nice person on this show is Fessler and Dolo. That's it.

Everyone else is full of shit. But regardless, we get kind of a split scene. This whole episode jumped around a lot, but we get somewhat of a split scene between with Melissa and Joe and Teresa and Jackie. And it's all about the same thing. But the whole reason Teresa wants to hang out with Jackie is because Jackie is, now openly talking shit about March. That's the only thing.

And I think Jackie knows that, so she's offering up that information willingly just so that she can fit in with the cool kids. And her reasoning behind it, everything that she's saying to Teresa, all she's doing is scing Teresa's D. Like she's just trying to get Teresa to love her

so that she can be on her team. Yep. She says, you and Jen just seem like light and more fun, which I will give credit when you watch the scenes with Teresa and Jen, they are able to discuss other things. When you look at Marge and her crew, it's always angry and she's talking shit about Teresa. So that, okay, fine, I'll give you that. I do get that, but you know if you were

to burn, say you become friends with Teresa and Jen and you burn them in some way by going over to Marge or by going over to Melissa. Now, I mean, I don't know, it even seems like right now Teresa's in a space where some of her friends, like, I don't think she's even going to be that upset that Jen's talking, or that, yeah, that Jen Aden's talking to Melissa, but if you go to Marge, Marge is public enemy number one. Oh, yeah. I don't even think Teresa cares about the Melissa thing anymore. Obviously, it's sad with Joe and whatever, but Marge is still public enemy number one. So if Jackie were to go back to Marge, you would get eviscerated. You would get ripped apart in so many different ways. So sitting there and saying, you know, it's just nice to come

over here, yeah, in the scenes that we see, it seems like it's a little more fun and you're not going to just talk about the other group the entire time, but you know damn well that if you do anything wrong, you're fucked. And also, they're very cognizant of the fact that there's cameras there and they want to come off a certain way so that they're not like the other girls. Yeah. So we know what they're doing. Jackie, you know what they're doing. You've been on the other side of it. So this is all horses shit. And when she said, when you said the parking attendant thing, I almost fell out of my chair. Did you? Did you? Because that shit wasn't funny. I don't even get it. And also, do less. Please.

But do way less. This is a tough look. I know Jackie is, like, clinging by her fingernails to stay on this show and has now switched allegiances just to try to stay relevant. But that's the thing, too. I think if Jackie came to Teresa and was just honest and didn't do all of this, like, I'm going to stick my nose really far up your ass, then Teresa would be like, all right, maybe you can be a good friend. But as soon as you start singing the praises of Teresa to her face, Teresa is smart enough to realize you're only here and you're only doing. all of these things because you want to get closer to me because you have no place on the other side.

You feel like they're ripping you apart, and you need me right now, especially for the show, you need me if you want to stay here. So, Teresa's going to use you. Any smart person would because I'm not recognize you as somebody who wants to be my friend right now. You're giving Teresa a lot of credit right now. I don't, I think, look, I mean,

she's been on the show for fucking 20 years. She knows how to play. And you can tell right away when somebody's going to you because they want to stay on the show, you can use them whenever the hell you want. Oh, she's... Throw them at Marge, throw Jackie and Marge the first chance that you get and see what happens. I bet you that's going to happen. She's going to pit her against Marge because that's what Teresa does.

Once she gets all the information that she needs, yeah. Yeah, and then she pits her minions against them and acts like she doesn't know what's going on. Meanwhile, she is the one that set everything in motion. If you need proof of that, go back to any season. But the most recent one, go back to last season when Jen Aden let slip that Melissa had that rumor and gave it to Danielle. Well, that all came from Teresa. So this is just, she's got to be so happy that she can stick this one to Marge. Like, she's got to be so fucking happy.

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and what that means and the semantics of it is the big thing. And yes, I agree when she says that, it doesn't really matter that you're saying. saying this was 17, 20 years ago, whatever. The fact that you're bringing it back up, people are going to discuss it. And especially this fan base, they're going to dig, dig, dig, dig, to try to find whatever kind of dirt they can on John Fuda. My counter to that would be, Bo Dietl looked, all of the Bravo slews from the Jersey toxic fan base looked. You found out that he sold drugs when he was 17 or 18 years old. Those drugs being weed, weed is now legal.

this is such a non-issue that every time it gets brought up even on food aside it's like why do you guys give a shit yeah it's weed exactly yeah that that's pretty much how i feel about this whole thing and again it goes back to what we talked about before the episode started we knew about this so long ago that now it it still would have happened if we didn't hear all of these things because people still would have dug and again it's the jersey fan base so they're different animal people still would have found out everything and we would be just reading about it now. And I think that would be better than reading about it eight months ago. We talked about it.

We would still get tired of it at some point and be like, oh, fuck, all right, enough. Once you find out it's just weed and he was 18 years old, I don't really care anymore. And I think you made a good point. Why does either side care about this? I don't know. Like, who gives a shit? You moved on. You know that she's not saying you're currently a drug dealer.

Fessler has told you, you said, or that Teresa said, you're a good husband and you had a past. And I want to talk about the past right now because that's new information to me. Okay, great. Let's move on. That's it. Let's move on. And this, to me, points to a season that doesn't have a lot to talk about. So they're hammering this thing home or else producers would have cut it by now.

So a little alarming, but regardless, we move on to Pauly and Dolo. And this scene was interesting. Yeah. Because Dolores is getting fed up. And rightfully so. She's done this song and dance before where there was a problem. promise of an engagement down the line, once things got sorted out, didn't happen. So she is ready for the next step.

And she's also proclaimed to everybody that discusses this. I'm not moving forward anymore with any major decisions until the divorce is finalized and there's a ring on my finger. Yep. And not even the ring part. She just wants the divorce and then they can talk about the ring. But regardless, his response was bizarre. You don't know why it got pushed for a year? And you don't want to blame COVID because everybody else does that,

but you don't really know it just something happened? What the fuck does that mean? I don't know. It was fucking cryptic. And my only thought during this whole scene was, is Pauly a fuck boy? Yeah. Like, is Pauly an Irish fuck boy?

He could very well be. The way that he's talking, the way that he's handling this, the way that he gets upset when DeLaris presses a little bit, which we haven't seen her press. And look, we assume they're having this conversation off camera as well. But she is getting to. the point and the rest of us are getting to the point now where we have questions. Why are you not doing this? We don't really understand it. Polly's not giving you any answers. And when you

press a little bit, he gets upset and says maybe go, if you need to go think about doing that, you need to move on with your life, maybe you should go do that. That's really concerning. And it's fuckboy behavior. It is. It's very interesting. It came out of left field because we've liked Pauli up until this point. And he's done a lot of things that we really enjoyed. And they seem like they really get along so for that to be his response to hey i'm kind of getting fed up over here yeah well then maybe you should just go fuck yourself like that's an interesting way to look at this rather than be like hey i get it i've been separated yeah essentially for 10 years and have yet to pull the trigger on the divorce that doesn't make any sense the only thing i could

think of is when he brings up the business thing later and we'll get to that did he go into business with his ex and there's like a lot of legal shit. Maybe there is some assets like joint assets somewhere that he doesn't feel like but then just tell Dolores that like and that's I think when the girls are all sitting down at the

golf club they're talking about this and they talk about it in their confessionals. Dolores is a very understanding go with the flow kind of person so for her to be getting to this point in the first place is a little concerning but also you're not answering anything and the more that you don't answer and the more that you say things like

you know just move on with your life if this isn't what you want to do she's going to have more questions and that's really weird because i feel like you could sit down with dolo and say hey yeah we've got a lot of assets and starting this divorce i guess if we start it will you be happy because it's going to take a while there's assets that need to be untied there's a lot of things going into it there's trust funds for the kids whatever the fuck else might be going on that we need to figure out during the course of this divorce so it's not going to happen the next day delores would understand she's been divorced, she gets it, and she has a relationship with her ex.

So there's other things that are going on here that I don't understand why Polly doesn't get it. I don't either, and I don't understand his approach to it, and I don't think that he's being very smart. Dolo is a strong, independent woman. She's not going to put up with shit if she doesn't want to. She's hanging around because she cares about you and wants it to work.

The minute that she feels like, oh, this is not going any further, she'll pull the trigger and kick you the fuck out. Like, she doesn't give a shit. She's made that very apparent throughout her entire housewife's career. She is her own woman. She doesn't need you. If you make it seem like you don't need her, she will move on.

Yeah. So that's why I thought his approach was so weird. Very weird. You're talking to the wrong woman. Like, that's not going to fly. She's not going to my girl all wrong. I'm talking to my girl all wrong. You do it again.

But it was just a strange scene. And he's sketchy. Yeah. There's a sketch, bro. Between the baseball bat thing and this and this. And then someone telling us in the DMs and he comes from a pretty tough town. Like, I need to know more about this town. I got to find that DM.

Whoever sent that, send it again. I need to know what town he's from and I'm going to do some research. Not too much research. You better be careful. I don't want the baseball bat. Yeah. You better be careful. But I want to know what's going on. I think we all do. That was such a weird shift in their dynamic. I was like, this doesn't really fly.

I don't like it. And don't talk to my girl like that. Yeah. But moving on, we get to clubs for a cause. And Marge is hosting a golf outing with Swaray, which is her mocktail company. And she invited some of the girls to come out and help. We got Marge,

Fuda, Melissa, and Dolores, and they're all handing out drinks throughout this whole thing. And you also get a quick little cut to Fessler and Jen Aden. And I guess Jen Aden thinks that Fessler's a hoot and a half. A hoot and a half. She's not wrong.

No, she's not wrong at all. But is this friendship coming about because Fessler is now more comfortable getting closer to Teresa and now Jen Aden's moving in as well. I don't know, because this is two straight episodes where Jen had a sit down one-on-one with somebody else. Yeah.

So this could just be Jen going on a little adventure. I don't care for it. You don't like it? No. I love it. What do you mean? Because it's not. It's everything that she discusses is Teresa-centric.

Well, I think we'd be fools to not point out that Jen is definitely petrified of losing Teresa as a friend. Oh, my God, yeah. But she's still not, it's not like she's not doing things. Like she's going to Melissa's housewarming party. She's going to sit down with Melissa to try to squash some things. She's sitting with Fessler. And yeah, I know Fessler loves Teresa.

So I think that's mutually beneficial because Fessler does want to be friends with Teresa. She wants to be friends with everybody. We just try to find out what the hell is going on. I commend her for that. But it is mutually beneficial because if you talk to Jen and you become friends with Jen, then you can go around and then you're friends with everybody. Jen needs Fessler because she's a hoot and a half or something.

No. I think she just needs. another friend maybe and look this is surprisingly this could be good for the show because we have fessler who's a central character who can talk to marge can talk to melissa and now can talk to teresa we have jen who's a mess who might let some shit spill who will let shit spill intentionally who will no no i'm not talking about the intentional stuff i'm talking about her being a mess okay and saying something bad about what teresa's done to her or to somebody else and then we've got Fessler in there saying, hmm, that's pretty interesting, and then it comes out in a conversation

with Mars a little bit later. That could change a little bit of the dynamic. So I do want people to get closer that are in the middle or at least can talk to both sides because that could happen. I don't know. I'm just hoping and praying. I didn't hate the scene. I didn't hate the matchup. Just to me, my mind is so twisted because of the show when I watch it. I'm like, Teresa Center there. No, I don't think that. I think Jen is still her own person. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

But regardless... Yeah, you're a little sick and twisted. I can't help it. This show has ruined me. But we get back to the golf ladies, and they are discussing how Melissa invited Jackie to her event, didn't care for... Like, Marge is so butt hurt that Jackie is friends with Teresa now. And, like, that's the worst look you can have. Like, if she was able to just allow her, not allow her because you're not in charge of her, but just be okay with it.

Yep. It's such a worst look. And then you're going to sit there and go, well, that girl's going to fly her. fucking spiral and blame you it's like you don't have to do that like she's been very open about her struggles with mental health don't throw that dagger in there there's not that's not necessary and it doesn't look bad on jacky that looks bad on you and you are just showing your cards that jacky gold schneider of all people is living rent free in your head yeah that's crazy well and that's what's crazy to me is that marge can sit here on this episode and many other episodes and say shit

like that and she doesn't get nearly as much hate as i think she deserves i agree People love Marge, and I don't fucking get it. She's a deplorable human being. She is. Anytime she gets pushed. And she's not a good friend. She doesn't give a shit about any of these people. She likes to have people close to her so that she can shit talk everybody else.

That's it. She's a terrible, terrible person. And everybody's still going to ride and be like, fuck Melissa, she's not doing anything this season. Fuck Teresa. She's terrible. She's doing this. Whatever. She's a fucking housewife who's been here for 20 years, and she made this show.

Go after Marge. Everybody just teamed together and go after Marge. for being a shit person. It would be a lot more fun to read about. I would love that. It's easy, too. It is. She makes it easy for you.

She's the most opportunistic housewife that we've seen, and that is a big statement because there's a lot of opportunistic housewives out there, but she literally moves and befriends people to dig up dirt, to use against them later or to use on somebody else. And when she gets triggered, she will say the most hateful mean shit you've ever heard in your life. She will go for the jugger. And she will never apologize.

No, she actually gets angry when you ask her to apologize and says why she's right. And then she'll apologize in a really mean tone. And if you don't accept her apology, she'll call you a name again. And yet people rally behind that. I don't understand. I don't get it. Go after March. That's the moral of this story.

Yeah. Go after March. But with the golf ladies, Melissa is saying that she's inviting, you know, Jackie. She's inviting Jen Hayden. My question to you, and this is not like a conspiracy because this show is warped my brain, but just. Are you sure? It's tip-telling the line, I'll be honest. But is she trying to set up pieces?

Because Melissa's M.O. for the longest time has been, I don't care. I don't have a dog in this fight. I just want to live my life. But when push comes to shove and shit gets messy, she is moving pieces around. So is this because she wants to be friends with Jen Aden to move forward? Or does she want to be friends with Jen Aiden to get a leg up on Teresa and be like, ha-ha? No, I think she just wants to move forward. Look, I'm going to take her for what she's saying and what she's been saying this whole season.

she's not really making any waves she's not doing a whole lot she's showing up as a supportive friend at daniel yeah i mean she has some comments and some laughing about how daniel looked right at jenn and teresa and said did you throw me under the bus there like yeah you did but everybody can see that she's not doing anything actively and i don't even think that she's moving chess pieces i think she's just fucking whatever about it okay which i i hope actually because that would be if she can maintain that throughout the season. I would really appreciate that approach. We will see.

But it jumps back over to Fisler and Jen Aiden. And this part was really funny because to me, when Fessler asks her, like, how's Teresa handling it? And she's like, oh, she's totally fine. And, like, she acknowledges that we're all going to be together. And I just got to do what's best for me. And I'm like, oh, you haven't told her. You have it.

You've told her that you're invited. You just haven't told that you're going, which she confirms shortly thereafter. I'm like, yeah, that's what happens. And because if you did tell her, this would be, it would be a moment where Teresa's like, oh, I don't care, but she's just taking notes in the back of her head. Like, maybe Jen's not as close as I thought she was to me. It's a possibility. I mean, who the hell knows what's going on anymore with any of this stuff.

It's just, I know that Jen is definitely afraid to broach the subject with Teresa. Yeah, she is. And she doesn't want to lose that friend. She has a direct line to Teresa Judice. And she doesn't want to lose that for anybody. but as you said, she is exploring other options, which is new, and I'm interested to see what the motives are, not new, but. Yeah, and I don't really think it's options necessarily. I think she's just trying to branch out a little bit and not be just seen as Teresa's minion because that's what she's been for so long. And yeah, she has her other moments where she's making funny jokes or she's having a fun time at different parties and people can tolerate her. But I think that she does want to just be friends with other people. I think deep down that's what Jen Aden wants is to be friends and have friends. friends and yeah she doesn't want to like lose teresa in any way shape or form so she's just

seeing if she can feel it out maybe you think she's lonely i yeah i think jen only on judice island on aden island on aden island well she lives on juda's island she does and uh she's got like a pull up like house boat yeah well it can be shipped off at any point and then there's a boat house somewhere on the other island where bill lives yeah no bill's in a pool house uh on the island somewhere else i try to go boat house instead of pool house i got on that island i knew what you were doing but I just think it's so funny that his sanctuary is at the pool house and he just goes back there and smokes blunts. But Fessler said that she's in the same boat

and the difference is, and this is where Teresa plays the game better and I'll give her credit for that. Teresa will not jump down Jen Aden's throat for going to Melissa's because she doesn't want to be perceived as giving a shit or giving Melissa any kind of, not credit, but she doesn't want Melissa to be invoking any kind of emotional reaction out of her. So she will play it cool, at least on camera. on Fessler's side of things, Marge and Rachel are not handling it well at all.

They cannot fathom the fact that Fessler can be friends with somebody on the other side of the street, which is not a great look. We've talked about that all season. Like every time they get so worked up, it's like, all right, well, where's that energy for Danielle? Because you guys don't seem to give a shit that she's friends with everybody. So that part of it, and we discussed that with Marge specifically, you are letting Teresa swim in your head nonstop.

And you're showing your cards every single time by getting so worked up about it, especially with Fessler, who this is all because of that conversation that she had with Teresa, which if you go back, I hope they watch the season and watch the conversation and go,

oh, maybe we shouldn't have been so open arms. They're not going to. No, they're not at all. They have no self-awareness. But you would think, because that conversation was fairly neutral. She asked questions about the drug dealer thing Also clarified I don't want to be in the middle of this

We can be friends too It's not a big deal It's not my fight to fight But I do want to stick up for my friend What did you mean by that? All right cool high five hug let's move on That should be how Rachel and Marge handle this Instead of getting so emotional

They're brought to tears over it Because that's crazy That's fucking insane Yeah that's not the right move And it makes you look weak And you don't want to look weak in front of Teresa Because she'll eat you up But we get back

to the golf girls and they're discussing brunch. And again, like I said, everyone has to check in about the brunch recap, but Fudis says that she's all good, my tank's empty, I got everything out, and they bring it back to Polly's divorce. And even this, like, Marge can't help herself. And I didn't know if this was a dig or an actual question or a little

bit of both. But Dolores brings up, like, you know, everyone's talk, a lot of people are talking about Pauly's divorce. And Marge's like, who's talking about it? I'm like, a lot of people. Probably you. Yeah, you've been talking about it. Like, are you trying to make, are you trying to minimize it?

Are you trying to take a shot of Dolo here? Like, what, what was that? Oh, I think she's just trying to get dirt. Oh, you think that she wants to know specifically what it was? She's like, oh, I hope it's Teresa so that I can like talk about it. Oh, see, to me, I thought she was being like, who's talking? No one's talking about that. I, look, I think that Dolores is Marge's white whale.

And if Dolores can flip and be Team Marge, I love that. So she was secretly hoping that it was Teresa and Louie talking shit. Wow, so this is a, that's a Moby Dick reference. Moby Dick reference. A lot of book references. We are super smart here. Yeah, I bet you didn't know that. Yep.

But anyway. Mar Jhab. Captain Mar Jhab, Jr. But they start talking about the divorce thing, and Dolores reiterates, like, I can't talk about anything else until he gets divorced. Like, that is the only thing that is blocking us from moving forward and jump over. over to Polly, who's talking to Joe, and he's like, well, you know, I'm planning on starting a business, whether I move my office here. It's like, that's your response to her wanting you to get divorces. Let's go into business together. Let's make it legal without a ring. That seems pretty

stupid and something that she's not going to be on board with. And I forgot, we didn't discuss earlier when talking about them sitting down together. The fact that he says to her, do you expect me to get divorced the next day be down on a knee with a ring it's like kind of yeah like within a week or two probably because you guys are living together now you want to go into business together which is a terrible idea especially if you're telling her to like rethink things if it's not working for her and you think that the time frame after you get divorced is going to be an extended period of time you think she's going to give you that grace period what did he was talking about like a five year plan he's like usually these things take a few years yeah i thought he was

talking about the divorce and I'm like well I mean he haven't even started the process of the divorce yet so how are you going to put a time frame on it he was talking about the relationship and when they would get engaged my guy you're like 50 yeah it's time time speeds up I know you need to do it to be dead before them I didn't say it you know I'm just saying like by the time that he actually gets divorce gets through all of that then does the clock start like when's the clock start I don't know it's just very puzzling everything he says now is very puzzling he's sketch bro I don't know what's guy fuck boy hey hey fuck boy who would have thunk who would have thunk it not me until we see otherwise we will stand by that but of course and this this scene would have been funny if they weren't so involved now but we got to see like joe benigno get a golf ball hit out of his ass fuck are they doing by the way if i went to an outing and there were dudes sitting on the green no those aren't dudes those are 50 year old men okay they they think they're dudes if there were 50 year old dudes how about that that's still giving them too much credit because I don't know.

You're saying dude is like a nice term? I think dude is like... If it's a dude on the green in the middle of an outing and he's taking forever, that's a bad dude. I think it depends on how... Yeah, you're right. It's how you say the word. Yeah. Like, dude.

Yeah, there's got to be a connotation. But one, pissed that we didn't get to see any of their swings. We saw them put, Joe Benino putting... Joe's swing out of Joe Benino's ass. Yeah. None of them... Well, yeah, that's true. We did actually see two swings.

We saw two swings. Yeah. Right? Who was the other one? Who was swinging at a... at food his ass. Although Fuda saying, I already got rumors about me.

It was pretty funny. That's a good line. I like that. Do more of that. Less of what you did at the end of the episode. But do more of that. What the fuck?

Give me some swings. I want to judge some athleticism because I know none of them have a good golf swing. Maybe Polly does because he's the only one to go out of the car and they said he's the only golfer here. He's from Ireland,

so I'd imagine that he can swing the sticks all over there. I got a pretty good stick swing. Yeah. That was a weird phrase. The stick swing is a very, that sounded very weird. Oddly sexual. I don't care for it.

Let's not use that one. He's a fuck boy. I don't know. What can I do? He's warped my mind. But no, yeah, I would be livid if they were sitting on the green during an outing. And I'm just trying to get it. Because outings go so long.

Oh, yeah. It's like a fucking six-hour round. And you've got these dickheads over here. How about dickheads instead of dudes? That's a good one. Yeah, these dickheads up on the green while I'm just trying to hit my approach shot. No, not doing it. Well, you know what we do in that.

You just hit at them. Give them a time frame. And then if they don't move, you get it. You yell four while the ball is a foot away from that. And then, of course, since half of those dudes are on steroids, that will result in a golf course fight, which, if you've seen the videos are always very funny. Yeah.

It's a win-win. I'm assuming I'm 150 yards away, so I'll just wait. Oh, yeah. Is they going to do run? Center of the fairway? Yeah, center of the fairway, you know. Yeah, what are they going to do, run at me? Take them forever to get there.

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Join me, Chris Hadfield, on the On Energy podcast. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. But anyhow, we move on. We get Danielle at the Bougy show, and we already discussed that pretty much. But, again, I thought it was nice, and it's nice to see. Sort of like an intermission for the episode, honestly.

Yeah, it really was. And they get this little breather. The transition from ballet and gowns to EDM and Boogie Kids was fucking hysterical. I really liked that. But no, I thought it was a very cute moment. I thought that it was, like, awesome for her.

It seems like a big deal. Like, even Melissa gave her a lot of credit for it. So it seems like it's going to hopefully elevate her a little bit in the business part of thing. So, yeah, overall, that kind of shit mixed in, I like. I like those scenes. So if there's more of that with other cast members as well, I'm down for that. As long as there's good drama on the other sides of everything.

But anyhow, yeah. The whole episode was leading up to this dinner between the Fudas and Louis and Teresa. And I guess it was set up by Pauly via FaceTime. The initial discussion, well, before we get to that, we have to talk about it. And I don't want to talk about it, but we have to talk about it. I never need to see those two stretch each other again. And I never need to hear it specifically. I know.

I don't need to hear it, but at least Teresa's somewhat made sense. The fuck was Louis doing? He did a little hand So they were doing like a I wanted to show that he could do that. Oh, God. Does that make it worse for you? It's so much worse.

I mean, he did just say you smash my peepee up against you. I just, which I also don't need to hear a grown man say. No, he doesn't need to say peepee. He doesn't need to be on his head. He doesn't need to be like sitting on her back going, that feel good.

It's like, oh, that feels good. I hated it. Like, I hated it. Dude, like I literally like looked down in my journals. I can't watch this. Those two, I'll tell you what, those two fuck. And they want everybody to know. We had to said F word earlier, and now here we are.

There's the true us. Welcome back, boys. But, yeah, hated it. I hated all of that. It made me uncomfortable. The inverted 69 will live in my head forever now, so thank you for that. You're welcome. But the setup from the foodist side of things, like, John.

Calm down, dude. Why do you need apologies, public apologies for all of these things? Can't you take it at face value and just move the fuck on? Is Adidas track suit? That was funny. Actually, and I wish he wore that to the dinner. He would have gotten a lot more props if he pulled up in that. But I guess I just don't understand it.

The food does have a meeting with production or themselves before the season and be like, hey, we're really going to bring it this year. We're going to be a team. I don't know why he's demanding all of these things. I get it if Rachel took the spearhead of this and was like, look, you're talking shit about my husband. You need to apologize to me and my family. If you take that approach. And yeah, in real life, the person that slighted should bring it up to the person that slighted them.

Sure, but we're not in real life. We're in reality TV life on Jersey Housewives. I want to see Fuda, Rachel Fuda, go in with Teresa and those two try to hash this shit out. That I'm here for. But the fact that John is so upset about it, that's fine. And you have every right to be. Yeah, she's talking a lot of shit about you and your past. That's a conversation between you and Rachel at home.

Yes. And then Rachel goes to sit with Teresa or you go as a couple and Fuda, Rachel Fuda, is the one that's leading the conversation. Yep. I don't care for watching John Fuda talking to Teresa. No, it just does nothing for me. And these two scenes going back and forth, they had different feels. And it just seemed like Teresa and Louis were sitting there waiting like, we don't know how this is going to go.

Like, truly, we don't know how this is going to go because Teresa's been on the show forever and things have gone very different. Things have gone as expected, whatever. But when it comes to the Fudas, you don't really know what's going to happen. And I think they deep down, they knew that there was never going to be some common ground. The Fudas didn't want common ground. You can tell by the setup that they're sitting there like, if it goes sideways, it goes sideways. Like, you want it to go sideways.

He even said that. He said, look, it could go one or two ways. they're going to go really, really well or completely sideways. I think it's going to go sideways. It's like, then why even say that you think it's going to go well? Or even go. Why even go? Yeah, exactly. Why even go? And look, I think they just saw it as an opportunity

to get on camera. We get a face-to-face sit down with Teresa. This is huge for us. This is huge for our New Jersey fucking brand, whatever you want to look at it like. And now we're front and center. We're going after Teresa. Melissa, who? It's just us and Teresa now. That's what I think

they're doing. Yeah. And it's so fucking annoying because I don't even know where it fell apart. Like yeah, the reunion happens, but like John Fuda forced all of that shit by accusing Louis of doing all this stuff, which we never really saw any evidence of. They inserted themselves into this and then this season

just showed up and it's like, all right, we've got Rachel and Marge and they're going to be really emotional about anybody going to talk to Teresa. It's like, how the fuck did we get here? When Rachel and Danielle started the same season, Danielle got skewered last year because she fell for a trap and now she's over here doing boozy kids.

and nothing else. Yeah. How is Rachel now in the forefront of all of this? I just don't get it. Somebody had to step up. There has to be on this show somebody to oppose Teresa. Like that is how they've set the show up for years. Melissa bowed out.

She's not doing it anymore. So you have to have somebody fill that role for better or worse. Like Teresa and Marge would never get into a room together. That's the thing. Exactly. You saw that last year they sat down and had fake apology and fake apology. That was brutal. That was nothing.

I just, look, again, I fully agree. agree with you. If Rachel and Teresa sat down and had this conversation as housewives, the housewives of New Jersey, all for it. Fine. Do it. Talk about it. You completely trashed my husband, brought up things from 20 years ago.

Your husband was talking about my husband. Do we see a way forward? No. Okay. Then we'll just continue to oppose each other. Right. Fine. That's what we want. I don't want John Vuda walking in there and talking to Teresa because he's not a fucking housewife as much as he wants to be. And like, if you have the two wives talk,

figure it out one way or the other whether they move forward or not is irrelevant and then it would be a much more welcomed scene to have the husband's solo and you could have fooda and louis sit down and try to come to terms hey our wives figured it out let's bury this and just move the fuck on yeah but instead what you get during that scene and i actually thought that fooda did pretty well for himself all things because i didn't like the scene i didn't think it was a necessary scene but there's two ways that i looked at it one i think i thought thought he stood his ground, I guess, which a lot of people will falter when Teresa starts going in. And he was able to get his words in, which Teresa a lot of the times doesn't allow

for. But at no point when they got there did I think that he wanted to be able to move on. He just wanted a fight because you can't sit down at a dinner where everything's supposed to be cool and you're supposed to hopefully have some reconciliation and be angry. Immediately. Yeah. Like, I understand that they said some disparaging shit about you and you have a right to be upset about it. But if the olive branch was extended from either side, you've agreed to meet. So go into it and, like, the first thing, I'm not going to start, you start.

Well, I'm not going to start. You start. It's like, well, this is fucked. So just get up and leave now because nothing's going to get accomplished from this. All it felt like to me was they wanted the dinner to go poorly so they could walk out and say mean shit to each other. That's all they wanted. And it started off. They were on completely different pages.

where it seemed like Teresa was just as confused as I am. Where did this go wrong? I felt like we had a connection. I felt like we had a connection. Jesus, Melissa. Rachel's sitting there saying, well, what? I feel like you never gave me a chance to be my friend. Okay, you aligned yourself immediately.

You're a newbie. You need to go in and figure it out. Danielle tried to align herself and fell for a trap, like I said before. But I didn't see Rachel do that at all. Rachel immediately went to Marge and just went right under her wings. So yeah, you aligned yourself. with public enemy number one, how am I supposed to reach you in that moment? And Theresa didn't get to say any of that because John Fuda stepped up.

Again, not a housewife, but he's still talking like one. And I guess, yeah, John did accomplish what he wanted to accomplish. I agree with you. I don't think that there was ever going to be a reconciliation there. I don't think there was any sort of level ground that they could have gotten to. He wanted to walk in there, get pissed off, have a good, a couple of lines, and then walk out and start screaming about shit. But I just hope that, and we saw a little bit of this in the Teresa and Louis solo scene,

they started talking about their past, which I know made you cringe on the Louis side. But Teresa brought up, yeah, I could dip into my past self and be who I was in the past. Do that. Why not do that? She's, that's her still to this day, by the way. No, it's not like, we had Namestay Teresa last year. Remember Namestay, Teresa? That's the biggest bullshit ever.

Yeah, it sucks. It started a podcast brand about it. I know. and it sucked and it was so boring because there were things going on and she just never really got activated and then Louis got about my family that's all we got then Louis got activated at the end of the year

and we don't want to see that either because again it's the house lives he's got wolves bro he's got two wolves that he's feeding feeds them bitches every day still not really sure what he means by that and wolf number two he said I've got a wolf back here and I could turn into that wolf anytime I'm feeding two wolves what's the second wolf I don't know but anytime a man talks like that I think he's the biggest bitch in the world yeah but that's

That's the other thing. He didn't say a word. He's opened by saying, why don't you start? Foda immediately came back with aggression. Okay, whatever. We'll handle this. He didn't say a word the rest of the time. And at the end of that conversation, while insults are flailing around and just getting hurled at each other. Insults are flailing around. Yeah, I don't know what I was going to say. I wanted to say flying. Fly. Yeah, I guess flying, but I wanted to say hurled. Well, they're hurling insights at each other. And then I was going to like flurled. I would prefer flurled over flailing. Flailing, whatever. Flailing insults. Either way, while the insults are being hurled between the two parties, Louis was just standing there laughing.

So, I don't know. Look, again, we know what the end of this looks like because there's no reunion. We don't know if there's going to be a show moving forward. But I can still at least hope that the rest of the season is going to be tolerable. And the only way that I think it'll be tolerable, at least, is if we see Teresa go back to her past self and put up a fight. This isn't like this whole.

putting Jen up to the task and throwing Danielle under the bus doing this and that and acting like you're out of it and any time somebody comes after you you talk about your family no it's not doing it for me just step up and be the Teresa that you were before and maybe people will be like

all right this is good again there she is she is she's back she's been here for so long and then she took a hiatus no step up you've got Louis over there he's a fucking mad dog he'll go do some shit yeah you got beau diddle on your side you got the deeds on your side I'd figure it out and go back at these people instead of doing the, I'm going to go talk to my friends. I've got a new friend Jackie here.

Maybe I can throw her under the bus. Do it yourself. Just stop with this clean hands bullshit and just stand up and do it for yourself. Step up. Step up. Boom. Boom. Let's get to some questions.

This is interesting. From Carolina, from Cali. Do you think the fans of New Jersey prefer toxicity, not fun moments? it depends on what the overall like no over 50% do you think that over 50% enjoys it or no no that's one of those things where like the loudest people in the room tend to be the minority like i think that the majority of jersey fans want this show to be fun and good again whereas some of the like that toxic group which is the loudest on twitter i don't think that's the majority of the fan base if you look at the ratings this show pulls anywhere from like 700 000 to over a million viewers

no i don't think that the majority of that million want to see that kind of shit and like the toxic stuff i think that's just that small crew on twitter that goes ape shit over the smallest thing and tries to ruin lives i think that they are the ones that ruin it for everybody else because that's also as we know a lot of this cast lives in the comment section they see that and they go oh they want more of this and they keep delivering instead of no let's get back to when this show make housewives fun again for fuck's sake uh from gen suya who is your dream golf for some with the house husbands doesn't have to be jersey oh shit that's a good one um let's see i want russell from miami uh chris bassett i don't think russell would be a great guy i don't think he'd be that fun though i know

he's like you love him this is mine i'm telling yours i don't yeah you want you went like a boring like sad boy podcast podcast. Boring sad boy Galf Forsam. Go for it. Go ahead. Keep going.

Russell. Chris Bassett. I'm going to tell Chris you called him a sad boy group. You didn't get to Chris yet, but got to go on. I said Russell. I knew your force of him was going to be boring. Go on. Russell.

Chris Bassett. Hmm. Let's see. Polly. Mix it up. And then. Fuck boy. Yeah.

No, that's three. It's you. You're the fourth. Okay, yeah. So that's an interesting one. Polly, Russell, and Chris. It's a really interesting one. That's going to be an interesting day on the course.

Oh, that's a really interesting day. Fuck yourself. I'm going to take Maricio. I'm on Fuck Boy Island. I didn't say Fuck Boy Island. I said, you're boring. You're boring. I think Mo would be a hilarious on course.

Your face is boring. No, it's not. No, it's not. You got a mustache. You got a great mustache. Yeah. Anyway. See how that works?

See how that works, though? When I insult you, I followed up with a compliment. When you insult me, you just sit there and like, gaslight and go yeah really? Is that what I do? But yeah

no I'm going to go Mauricio wait oh god no I kind of wanted to go a really weird path with this one

but I'm not going to uh fun Abe and you're going to throw somebody a little

more interesting in there hmm nobody from Potomac really goes there are two old, honestly, to get out there

in golf. Like, G. G would have a hard time golfing out there. G would have a tough time. You know, what you could do is Frank would round that one out. Yeah, Frank, Frank rounds it out. I felt like that was a little bit more low-hanging fruit. But yeah, we'll throw Frank out there. I ride with Frank, though.

Yeah. The other two can ride together and talk about. Yeah, I'm riding with Chris, and then I want to I want to have a mic in Russell and Pauli's card. That would be interesting. Super interesting. To tell me why you're not getting divorced? Yeah.

What the fuck did you say? And then he pulls out a baseball bat out of his golf bag. That works. We'll go one or two more. Let's see. From Dylan Hyman, who in the current cast should come back if New Jersey does a pause like Miami? Depends on how long of a pause, honestly. Yeah, I can't even really answer that.

I think that you could argue for any of them to stay on for the most part. And you could also argue that any of them could get kicked off. off. Yeah, and we've talked about this. We talked about it last week. I think we talked a little bit about it the week before. Just their options moving forward, there's, it's just a lose, lose, lose, lose situation. Because no matter who you kick off and who you keep, if you kick off the entire cast, people

are going to be pissed like they were with old Rony. Even though people were fed up with the show, they're not even going to give the new cast a chance because it's not Teresa. It's not Melissa. It's not Marge. So they're going to freak out. If you get rid of just Teresa, all the Teresa fans are going to be pissed off. If you get rid of it, vice versa.

I honestly I think that maybe the only way forward obviously a new cast works you have to give it some time maybe the only way forward if you're going to do this is just keep Teresa and get rid of everybody else and then build around her it's like you don't get rid of LeBron you keep LeBron and you build around LeBron even if he's 40 years old I'm going back to what I said last year get rid of Teresa and just see what they have for a season and no I know but get rid of Teresa see what they have for a season. See how that goes and what it looks like. And then, but my biggest thing, honestly, is pause it and give us new cities with new cast. There's no expectation. You don't know who is going to be on the show. You're not expecting Teresa or Dorinda or Assonia. Like,

you're going to a new place with new people. Actually, fine, I take this back. Get rid of the newbies. Keep Teresa, Melissa, Marge, and Jen Aden, and throw in some of the old cast. members. Bring back Caroline Manzo or something. Although I don't think she's ever going to be on Bravo again. Danielle Stobb or like whoever. Like bring back some of the old cast members from Jersey that can just fucking light it up and just see what happens because they'll come on.

Look, we saw it with O.C. Tamara came back. We hate Tamara, but that show needed something and it needed a kick in the nuts. People watched it. People watched it because Tamara came back and she came back with some sort of vengeance and we didn't care for the vengeance. Some sort of vengeance. She came back vengeful as fuck.

But we didn't care for it, but it's still. worked to a better extent than what they had before. Bring back somebody else that knows the game that's been on the show that knows everybody there and can light a fire under some people because it's just getting stagnant. But I will say this. If you're going to bring somebody back, you have to bring back three. Yeah. Not one.

Every time we get one recurring housewife come back, they always end up migrating to a team again. I need three OGs to come back. Yeah. Kick three people off. Where's to rent a live? She technically New York Oh fuck

I was gonna say Maybe if she lived up in like Upstate New Jersey She could easily get like a condo in Jersey Yeah why not Throw Dorinda in there I don't fucking know Pause the fucking show

Like that's all I can come up with Let's do one more All right One more here From Miranda E412 Can you have more of the Jersey Husbands on your podcast We've said it before

We'll have anybody on We'll always give them a fair shake And make sure that they answer our questions We won't really have any issues of that we'll have anybody on. I don't know. My issue with this is with the pause looming and the Nover Union, I'm assuming that they can't say that much

and they won't, they'll be able to tell us of like, what's going on. But everything's so one-sided now with everything. We're not really going to get any answers and they won't be able to talk about the future of the show because they don't know. Yeah. It just won't work.

And we've run into snags with this kind of shit before where they're either in transition mode or trying to figure something out and they don't allow for stuff like that. I would imagine that the house husbands have less of a restriction. But as Shooter said, you're going to get one side of the story, and it's going to be a lot of half-truths or lies. Like, that's the issue with this franchise in particular is it's so split.

Yeah. That depending on which side of the street you get, like if you got Fessler's husband, who's not on the show, really, then maybe you'd get a neutral opinion, but he doesn't know what the fuck's going on because he's not there. Exactly. So, yeah. but yeah that's all I got you got anything else no just remember that we did our live

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