Bros & Shows - JT Does the Most, Whitney is Just Gross (Southern Charm Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

What's up Bros? A lot happened this week in Southern Charm. JT meets up with his family at his new AirBnB to decorate. We will say this, if this was how JT was the majority of the time, he would be mu...ch more tolerable. We get to meet Shep's girlfriend Sienna, and as we have already seen, there are some questions about her reasons for dating Shep. We also get to know a little more about Taylor and Gaston. Although Shep adds his 2 cents when he claims Taylor's whole family still wishes she was with him. The boys head to a golf simulator and it's a chance for Craig to move past JT's nonsense last year. It starts off light but JT can't help himself as he starts to question Austen's behavior once again. It's almost a direct repeat of last year. To top it off, he claims that Madison facetimed him with Brett to ask some questions about Jamaica... To which JT implies that he believes Brett is concerned that JT and Madison slept together.......... Both Shep and Craig can't take him seriously and Craig ends up leaving early to avoid the Austen slander. Austen meets up with Craig and Craig fills him in on JT's shenanigans. JT and Venita do seem to be getting closer to one another and it is one of the more confusing relationships/ friendships/ situationships that we've witnessed. We just wish JT would listen to Venita's advice. The episode ends with an Easter Extravaganza at Miss Patricias. Craig alleges that JT called Miss Patricia a bitch at the golf simulator, although we do not have the evidence to corroborate those claims. The episode ends with one of the more disgusting comments we've heard on any show, when Whitney tells Molly that the last thing she needs is a cupcake. Don't worry, we have some words for him. Want more BravBros content? Join BravBros Members to gain access to weekly exclusive episodes, a weekly livestream recording of an episode, monthly community zooms and more! Click the link below to sign up! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:15 and only Back Home Me dudes. What's up, dude? It's funny because we did this in a take earlier, but we had some audio issues, and it was Welcome Home Gome, which I actually really liked. Yeah, you did? Really appreciated that one. So, yeah, good to be home. Just an unbelievably long day of travel yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:37 And first thing I did when I got back, buffalo chicken cheese steak, mozzarella sticks, because I needed to have some actual food. No offense to England. But putting meat and pastries all the time doesn't always work. You don't like a meat pie. It's just, it's good for a bit. But, you know, day 10 of travel, can't do it anymore. So, so, yeah, had some good Philly food.
Starting point is 00:02:00 got back and i honestly i slept my girlfriend fell asleep like seven i fell asleep like 8 30 and i woke up at 9 so that is a way to beat jet lag and it's a way to adjust to a new time period because you sleep for 12 hours we're a new time period not a new time zone a new time period time period yeah we're in the industrial age back here which by the way why did like so much shit happen when i'm gone like i'm just trying to enjoy my vacation not only are the eagles apparently just falling apart but they weren't but it was fake and they were and they weren't but also all this stuff happening with bravo i wake up this morning and we've got sandoval's girlfriend putting them on blast on instagram stories i know there's a bunch of things that happened last week i'm like yeah of course as soon as i leave
Starting point is 00:02:41 retracted her statement i saw the retraction too yeah yeah yeah that also happened uh so yeah what going on here but uh happy to be back just getting back in the swing of things yeah i myself had a quick 36 hour trip we went to a wedding in texas uh on saturday which was for a very well-known baseball player and i won't divulge everything i will say that he is a spokesperson for waterburger yeah and in the middle of the wedding like in the back nobody could see it waterburger built a waterburger in the venue and they called it a whitt a burger that might be a hint for people out there good but it was legitimately i'm going to post a video of it on our story so you can see it it was legitimately a what a burger with tables chairs a counter the whole menu all of it the bag said with a burger on it
Starting point is 00:03:33 like all of it was legitimately what a burger and you could get as much as you want it was the coolest thing i've ever seen at a wedding and i had five water burgers and two honey butter chicken biscuits at a boy now I have to ask this because this is where my mind went was there a huge edible burger what I took it I said that there was a huge what a burger oh the water burger that built up a location like a storefront not a giant burger dickhead they built an actual storefront in the back of the wedding venue behind these big curtains and then you walk through they had the the neon sign and you walked past it through a hallway and it opened up into a legitimate location but it was in the venue and then they broke it down at the end I know it was wild it was
Starting point is 00:04:22 one of the coolest things we ever seen unreal yeah we're going to need more of those at any wedding because that makes things great because you always have those those little lulls where people are doing all their speeches and sometimes people are doing speeches for seven hours and you just want to eat food sneak off to a water burger in the middle of the dinner and the right before the dinner it was after the speeches and the dinner and everything so you had to wait for it but it was totally worth the weight. It was unfucking believable. I could, and the best part is Waterberger did it for free because
Starting point is 00:04:47 they're one of his sponsors and it's great. So just pictures and stuff. And now we're giving them PR. Maybe we'll have a Waterburger built in my house. We need to bring it up north. It's so much better than. Not at one of our live shows. Not at some event that we're going to do. We're going to have it in Steel's house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Fuck everybody. I just want my water burger. I'll try to do it at one of our live shows. I don't think it's going to work. I don't think that's going to work that well. I don't think Waterberg is going to sponsor a Northeast podcast, seeing as they have no locations up here. But dare to dream, everybody. The lesson of this is, dare to dream, okay? Don't let your dreams be dreams. Guys, that's what we wanted to say to you on this lovely Monday we're having.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's dreary, cold, gray, and wet, but it is a victory Monday and just follow your dreams. But with that being said, now we got a little inspirational speech out of the way via Waterberger. We're here to talk about Southern Charm. And a charming episode it was. I enjoyed all of it. I were going to have to learn to break these down without turning it into a J.T. roast session because it would be too easy to do that. It would be if a noted J.T.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Hater didn't actually enjoy this episode. And that would be me. Because I thought that was one of the, sometimes I can look at it and just say he is the dumbest, like, goofiest person. and I can laugh about it, and I decided to do that for this one. The real evil person comes at the end of the episode today. So we have a lot to say about him. For JT, I'm going to leave it alone.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I actually kind of enjoyed it. I thought that it was hilarious. So we're just going to leave that alone. It was a better episode for him. We did the same stuff, but maybe I'm getting used to it now. I don't really know. But yeah, there is a different villain. And for those of you that listened last week, I went to the premiere last week solo.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I took Riley, my sister. She works in New York, so it worked out. She had to see, you know, the Bravo world a little bit. She was very entertained. The funniest part, dude. So we're, I'm at the table. And it was, it's called Carriage House. And it's Austin and Craig, their partners in this restaurant.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So they did it there. Not a huge venue, really nice. But I'm sitting at a table. I posted up early because I knew the tables would fill up. I'm like, I'm just going to sit my ass down right here and just people watch because that's what I like to do. Yeah. Riley has to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So she goes and she's gone for like 50. minutes because it's crazy in there and she comes back and it's Zach Wickham from the valley and his his boyfriend and they come up to the table and they're like riles right here we're going to sit right here riles and i was like what the fuck and i was like hey zach and i'm i'm on the valley i'm stealing i have a podcast whatever riley became best friends with zach and benjie his boyfriend they sat at our table the entire night we shot the shit he was a riot his boyfriend Benji is the man he's going to be on the show but mainly in the background he says eating you don't really see much of it's good but it'll be in the background eating uh they were delightful
Starting point is 00:07:42 brittany hung out with us for a while it was a fucking hysterical night the southern hospitality crew showed up so i hung out with uh our boy joe joey bottles for a while and i actually met whitney which i'll save for when we talk about whitney okay i have some uh some t's and f's some thoughts and feelings yeah that guy that i will i will divulge because guess what everybody as you know we don't give a fuck no i was actually uh i do have a question what does zach's hair look like in person helmody or not helmody he had a hat on and i will say the first thing he said he goes so you have a podcast i was like yeah he goes did you comment on my hair and i was like yes maybe we might have and he was like it's okay everybody he was a good sport he's a really good sport he's a
Starting point is 00:08:32 lovely guy like we i what i tell you we had a blast all we hung out with with him and benjie for like three hours straight it was fucking hysterical so that's that's that's that's the old fashion putting a hat on a hat am i right yeah like riley like of course like she doesn't know any of these people she's like why are you guys here and zax like oh i'm on one of the shows and she's like oh cool and they just made became best friends oh that's great and he went to the photo booth here's a funny story for everybody again i don't care they went to the photo booth so it's my sister riley and ben jac's ex-boyfriend and they wanted to go they had one of those old school like photo booths where like takes the four pictures or whatever there was a southern charm member standing outside right by the
Starting point is 00:09:12 booth one of the with the women on the show she's been around for only a couple of seasons she had a really rough go last year you do the math yep Riley and Benji wanted to take pictures just those two she was standing right next to the booth she turns to Riley and goes I really don't feel he taking pictures right now, guys. Like, I'm sorry. He's like, did you imagine? Who wants to take a picture with her? Riley goes, we don't really want to take pictures anyway. And like goes in the booth. It's like, what the fuck? She comes to me and tells me that
Starting point is 00:09:40 story. She's like, yeah, like, I don't know who she is. I didn't give a fuck. And she thought we wanted her to take pictures. I was like, that's kind of embarrassing. Really funny. Probably going to share that story. So yeah, you can do the math on who that is. Yeah. Riley just wanted pictures with her new BFF Benji and a third party decided. I don't want pictures right now, guys. Please get the paparazzi away from me. So, yeah, all in all, it was a lovely night. I had a really nice time. And I got to talk to Craig for a little while, talk to, like, other people in the cast.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Everyone's super nice, except one of one guy. Then I'll talk about him later. But let's jump in to this episode. And I will give a shout out to Whitney drinking Pappy Van Winkle. Do you know how expensive those bottles are? Like they said it on the shell, like 2K. And they also only drop like one case a year. And you have to be in line in like a lottery to get them.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So that's crazy, just sipping on that in the middle of an afternoon, not on a special occasion. Weirdly enough, actually, I was at, because I recently, a couple of weeks ago, you know, just kind of putting my apartment together, we got a little bar cart over here. So we wanted some good bottles. And I said, maybe I want a whiskey bottle, just something a little nicer, whatever. Saw one of those. It was a 10 year, not a 15. But it was at a random ass, like, dingy jersey store on the way back from going to Costco, driving back.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Saw it up there, started laughing. and then there's a little sticker that hangs like on the side. And it was like $1,700 for the 10 year. I'm like, yeah, that checks out. Even in this story still. Yeah. Doesn't matter. It's expensive as hell.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's delicious. Let me tell you. Oh, my God. It's so smooth. It's so smooth. Happy. Oh, sweet, sweet pappy. Don't send me down in this rabbit hole.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Let's get back to the episode. We get to Shep. Then we get to FaceTime with Sienna, his new girlfriend. It sounds like they met on Raya. I would imagine that's the dating app he's using. Yeah. And she's Miss Bahamas. Now, some things have come out recently, and I'm not sure if it's in regards to Sienna,
Starting point is 00:11:36 but it's about dating fans of the show. It sounds like a scenario in which somebody wanted to get famous, tracked down Shep, got an inn. I don't know if that's Sienna or somebody that he gets with later, but that's on my radar. So as I'm watching every scene with her, I am trying to figure out, are you the one that, quote, unquote, fooled him? And I will say, it's a red flag for me.
Starting point is 00:11:59 The first thing that he says, he's like, I would love to come down there and stay with you for an extended period of time. She's like, no, I'm just really busy. Got a lot going on. Like, yeah, let's not do that. So it sounds like somebody's a little more invested than the other person. We've heard those sorts of accusations for a lot of those shows that feature, you know, more of an ensemble cast rather than the housewife shows.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I don't think that there's ever been, that's actually not true. There are definitely guys that do date housewives, such as Johnny Jay. Oh, no, why? We don't have to talk about him anymore. Come on. Got to use him as an example. Johnny Jay is the worst of all of them. But we've heard them for Summer House.
Starting point is 00:12:37 We've heard them for Southern Hospitality, and we've seen that there's a potential stepping ladder from Southern Hospitality over to Southern Charm, depending on what we see, a little pipeline, if you will. So I'm not super surprised about any of that and wouldn't be surprised because of the way they're setting it up. We saw for, I guess, for the season trailer, and then we saw, you know coming coming uh in the future on this show blah blah blah it looks like madison starts talking about how she's a fan of the show we're not positive if it's sienna but i'm pretty sure it is i don't know if look i think that when it comes to shep he's just enamored by beautiful
Starting point is 00:13:10 women and he starts talking to them doesn't realize oh they're just talking to me for the show or he does and just uses that to his advantage so at the end of the day if he doesn't care then i'm going to leave it alone but if he starts complaining about it then obviously we're going to have to rip into it i think that's what i saw i think recently like he came out and said something against it where he was like not happy with the situation so that's why i'm okay if he didn't give a shit we wouldn't give a shit no exactly i'm saying like if it wasn't a problem for him then why are we going to waste our time talking about it but it's something to keep an eye on it's like keep that on your radar everybody i do think it's interesting that everything he says
Starting point is 00:13:44 is good about her is everything that taylor is not he makes a very big point to point out she's a lot of things that taylor wasn't i'm like geez dude like yeah not everyone likes her anymore either you don't you don't have to do this part this just is kind of sad just like a tear down but you're getting the side by side with taylor and gastone who is very sexually inclined by the way very sexually breaking news dude likes sex i know it's it's earth shattering that gastone likes to bang i was pretty surprised i was shocked he didn't seem the type no you know you know i didn't he couldn't have chalked that was the name like gastone no way gastone gasstone likes to fuck are you serious well how about that why is that not a headline what a weird thing to say like okay cool
Starting point is 00:14:30 you guys are banging good congrats on the sex guys but i mean they seem fine you know she brings up marriage which is shocking they've been dating for fucking like seven months like slow down maybe but he didn't yell at her while they were playing pickleball that's a good step in the right direction it looks very normal i don't have any issues with it you know like again we have our she was with Taylor from last season, but like if she's happy with this dude, they're happy together. It's a normal relationship. She deserves, regardless of her behavior last year, she deserves somebody that's going
Starting point is 00:15:02 to treat her well. So hopefully Gaston is that. I don't know. We'll see more from them, I'm assuming, throughout the season. But, you know, I think the biggest thing to take away from these juxtapose scenes is the line from Shep saying, I know that Taylor's whole family, her grandfather, her parents, like he literally lists off like six different relatives. relatives wish that she was still with him now weird weird to say damning if true and it could
Starting point is 00:15:30 just be you know he comes from a good southern family the good charleston family's got a lot of money you'd be taken care of i don't know that's a lot to speculate on when we don't really know i think it's going to i took it more as we've seen shep be ship and do things like yelling at her during a water bottle or a water balloon toss but i can imagine the way that he is with parents and relatives, he puts on a facade of, I'm this happy, go lucky, super nice, rich guy, which every family is going to love. And if they're not watching the show, then they don't know. And they're listening to Taylor talk about things. And we've seen Taylor's family. We saw Taylor's family last year. They strike me as a little weird, a little
Starting point is 00:16:12 eccentric, if you will. So I'm not surprised to hear any of that. And also with Shep being Shep, I can see him putting on this whole personality for family members that show that he's this great guy who's just a stand-up guy that loves his girlfriend, and then as soon as they're back in the car, he complains about literally everything that happened. So, not surprised by that. Yeah, I am, yeah. We'll see what plays out from that, but.
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Starting point is 00:17:50 Eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. We get to a scene with J.T., and he just bought another rental property. So he's got himself a slew of Airbnbs throughout the Charleston region. I think he's got eight. This is nine, maybe. He's got eight or nine somewhere.
Starting point is 00:18:13 This is his biggest one with nine bedrooms. I guess it technically classifies as like a hotel. He had to zone it as a hotel, whatever. He's bringing mom. and Siss in to decorate, they are the eyes of the project, if you will. They painted a nice lovely scene of the marsh that they're going to put. It's a massive painting that's going to highlight the house. I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I will say, as far as J.T. scenes go, like, if he was like this all the time, he would be much more tolerable because he still has like some JTisms in there where he's like, I'm shocked. I disrespected Miss Pat. Like, it was a joke. Like, the fact that he doesn't know better to give him. an 80 year old a cane and that's not going to be seen as disrespectful but all in all it's like all you're you're mainly focused on you right now you're focused on things that you fucked up and trying to make up for them i.e. writing miss patricia a letter and you're not talking about other
Starting point is 00:19:08 dudes on the show and your issues with them when you're not involved with it like i think that if he was able to stick to which we see very soon after this that he's just simply incapable of doing that yeah but if he was like this is fine now you still not my favorite but i don't care i'm like all right you're just another guy on the show and you run air bn bs and this is your thing i wish you would stick to this and the vanita storyline and just leave all the other stuff alone because that's where he loses everybody and again it's just like white night night and shining armor up on this pedestal bullshit that makes us not believe you're a good person well i think yeah it's the white night bullshit that really bothers me especially watching and knowing a type of guy who would
Starting point is 00:19:45 go after Taylor in a vulnerable state and then convincing everybody that he's a great guy while considering himself to be up on some huge pedestal above somebody like Austin, above somebody like Shepwood. In reality, he's not. We all know what kind of guy he is, so it doesn't really matter. And him sitting there talking about all of those things while going through this scene with his mom, obviously he's going to have a different level of respect for his mom. So he's going to talk about Ms. Patricia. And he's going to feel bad and understands that maybe he did something wrong, especially with their reaction. But we didn't see him do that. We saw him say that she was blowing it out of proportion.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Are you kidding me? It was just a joke. That's who he really is, but he's still, he's afraid of his mom at the end of the day. But for scenes with JT, if he can just do it in a funny way that he's not obsessed with these guys, like say he wanted to go after Shep a little bit instead of Austin. Like if you just moved on from one person instead of just sticking to Austin, I don't think it would be that much of an issue because he's an idiot. And if you just treat him like an idiot, which it looked like Shep and Craig are doing in this next scene,
Starting point is 00:20:43 that's the way to approach J.T. he's a goofball he says random shit he tries to get under your skin because he's just like that annoying little guy and every friend he doesn't yeah he's a nat and he just won't go away and if you just treat him like a joke he will eventually be a joke and you won't have to worry about him anymore but people keep getting irritated by him and i don't blame them so it i do agree that in a scene like this it's like you do have more to offer i don't know if it's like he should be on this show i think he's got enough going on in his life and like that's okay like talking about being rich and owning all of your Airbnb properties
Starting point is 00:21:15 and having like a little bit of a coy smile at the end of it. It's like, okay, yeah, fine, whatever, to go ahead and do it. But it's when he does the other things that get annoying where he won't stop and he won't stop pestering, that's when we all get pissed at them. If you just do like one or two things
Starting point is 00:21:28 just to stir the pot and then take a step back and then you have to face the music when you have to face the music, fine, whatever. But don't keep going down that alley because that's when we get pissed at you. Agreed. Agreed. So, I mean, again, it falls off almost instantly
Starting point is 00:21:43 but we'll get to it when we get there the next scene is Molly and she's giving us a little bit more of her background you know she was adopted by two attorneys she plays the euphonium which is a little tuba didn't know that was a thing no idea with that thing was
Starting point is 00:21:59 me neither but then it made me really think about like how many iterations of instruments there are in an orchestra oh yeah because I too know there's a violin there's a viola there's a fiddle there's like there's all different kinds so when you think it's just one thing there's lots more there right guys right again life lessons you may think you're a tuba but you might be a euphonium oh god i'm so mad at myself for thinking that you were actually
Starting point is 00:22:27 setting up like a clever remark about somebody else on the show and then you just stopped and you're like nah just a good life lesson guys just a good life lesson guys just because you're not a tuba you could be kind of like a tuba maybe you're a euphonium maybe you are you are Maybe you are, and that's okay too, but she's talking more, and this is important for later, about, you know, the modeling thing. She's been doing a lot less modeling because she's gained like 40 pounds. And I guess that's affected her modeling career. We know that she has a thyroid issue, I believe, is what she talked about, and it's an
Starting point is 00:22:59 imbalance of hormones that she talks about later, and she's on some medicine that causes binge eating, all of these different things. The biggest thing to take away, the biggest thing is, like, in this scene, it's like she's gorgeous. Like, she's a very, very pretty woman. She doesn't look like she gains some exorbitant amount of weight and shouldn't be modeling. Like, I think that's the biggest thing to keep in perspective as we go through this episode, especially when we get to the end is one, we know how she feels about herself and her relationship with food at this current moment. And it's got a sting even more because she's losing out on modeling jobs because she's had
Starting point is 00:23:33 this weight gain. Yeah. But objectively speaking, you look at her like, wow, she's really, really pretty. So like, it's just, it sucks. And I'm sure. that this is something that resonates with a lot of people out there. So I'm glad that she's talking about it. It's just shitty to watch because you're like, man, that's not what you look like. You might feel this way, but that just sucks that that's your own opinion about yourself. And especially when it's echoed by some moron later on. That's not helpful. And unfortunately, that seems to be the MO for a lot of these shows, whether it's a housewife show or one of these sort of like a different type of show. When somebody has body image issues, it's almost like
Starting point is 00:24:09 immediate that somebody else is going to bring it up or they're going to make the comment and it's like fuck off like we saw it with oc with emily emily's just trying to voice her concern with herself and talking about her own body image we don't need somebody else to comment on it same with this she's opening up to us in a confessional in a scene talking about all the things that she's gone through and that's got to be hard in itself and obviously you're going to have a lot of people that are looking at you like oh my god you're still beautiful like why are you worried about it but she's worried about it because it's her body so of course leave her alone let her get through it and you for sharing. That should be it. Don't use that information to then put it on somebody else
Starting point is 00:24:43 as we see a little bit later. And we've seen it on so many of these different shows. And it's like, how fuck? Sometimes I do have those moments where you're watching something, like we're watching something for a show. And it's like, well, yeah, duh, why would you bring that up? Don't fucking throw that in somebody's face. And then it gets thrown in somebody's face. And you're like, how does everybody not understand that? How does everybody's brain not work that way? Like, how do you have to be that much of a piece of shit because you can't get in your own way? And that is, again, we're just foreshadowing a ripdown of somebody a little bit later, which if you watch the episode, you know what we're talking about. And you know what we're getting to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:15 But check in with Brett and Madison and come to find out that he has been diagnosed with thyroid cancer, which is awful and extremely scary. And we love Brett. We love Brett and Madison. We love Brett and Madison and Hudson. Like this little family is so delightful watching it take shape over the past couple of years. watching Madison grow up, you know, and she's night and day from the Madison that we saw in the earlier seasons. And like seeing her with Brett, she's finally happy, sort of hear that this is going on is awful. They're trying to get it sorted. It sounds like they removed the cancer, but now he's
Starting point is 00:25:50 having some ramifications from either the procedure or some, maybe it's flaring back up. I don't know. And I will not speculate on that. All we're going to say is we hope that it gets sorted. We hope that he's okay and that they're all okay. And I can't emphasize enough, like just watching the scene like him and Hudson making pancakes together in their kitchen and Madison's just like watching over and talking about how difficult it is to be strong for Hudson like this kind of shit is real and it's it's something that's like tougher to watch and again it's going to resonate with a lot of people so I'm glad that they're being open about this whole thing it's just at the end of the day I fucking love Brett Brett's a real man on like a show full of you know man children and I need them
Starting point is 00:26:32 to be okay and I really hope that he's doing better and I hope we get an update on that throughout the season but this this scene was sad this really bummed me out yeah and i i know that madison i i'm not going to paraphrase because i only like read through it one time right before we started recording but she did share an update and she you know apparently they had this completely under wraps like she wasn't posting about it he wasn't posting about it and you know why would you if you want to keep that close to the chest of course go ahead and do that but obviously sharing this on the tv show is a lot different so it looks like she did post an update again i'm not positive what the update actually said so I'm not going to paraphrase on that.
Starting point is 00:27:05 But Madison has had one of the biggest character developments of any person in any reality TV show. She was fearless. She had these crazy teeth that she would just go after you with anything. She had fangs that would blow up. Just go after you for any little detail. And she would ruin your life if she wanted to. And that person can still be there. And I hope that person pops out every once in a while, just not of their own expense.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So seeing these scenes with them now, it's like, yeah, you almost forget about all of the things before, whether you liked her or hated her, who she was 10 years ago, eight years ago, whatever it was, and who she was with Austin, you see something like this, and you're just like, wow, this is a beautiful moment with a nice little family. Love to see it. And since we did have a little short break there, I was able to read the Madison update. She just put out there that she, you know, thanks everybody for reaching out, obviously after sharing it on the episode and that everything's moving in the right direction
Starting point is 00:27:54 and they're just kind of taking them one step at a time. So hopefully everything works out well. Hopefully we get a clean bill of health from Brett at some point in the future. But again, I mean, that's one of those things that any time that something like that happens and they share it on this show, it's like, Brett's not a mainstay on the show. He's not a real cast member. He doesn't have to do any of this. He doesn't have to share if he doesn't want to. And here we are.
Starting point is 00:28:14 So appreciate it and hope for the best. Yeah, we're all thinking about you, Brett and Madison and Hudson. We're thinking about all of you guys. A whole fan. We love that little fam. It's so sweet. But let's go on to the golf simulator because what a scene. What a scene.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Not only on a TV show, but just. in real life like what what a scene because you get j t craig and chef i guess jt and craig had been friends previously and the whole austin shit last year definitely through a wedge so this is almost like what i read this scene as especially given the whole cane thing at the carolina cup was this was the first chance to really hang out and move on like this was craig almost being like all right dude You offered an olive branch in the form of a cane to Austin. We can finally put all of that weird shit from last year behind us and be able to move forward now. So like let's squash it.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Let's play some golf. Let's get into some other nonsense. But of course, and I thought there was hope because JT's like, you know, I'm just hoping we can be civil and move on. Like did that olive branch work? Like do you guys think it worked? And Craig's like, look, dude, I think it was a good step. Things are looking up. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:29:28 he brings up miss patricia like you know i wasn't trying to insult or whatever and it just gets confusing because madison invited me to an event but then she didn't talk to me so she pissed at me because of patricia one yes because she rides and dies for miss patricia as most of us do and two what that doesn't allude to is this weird face time that he got in the bahamas from madison and he has the nerve to say i just don't know what's going on with madison because, you know, she wore my blue and white, as he called them. My stripes. My stripes. I hated that. I hated that he called him as stripes. I was like, you're not a decorated military, man. Like, what are you talking about? Your stripes. Like, it's a fucking, like, yacht comfort outfit. Yeah. Whatever. He says that he thinks that Brett has an issue with him because Madison wore his blue stripes and that there was a face time that Brett was present for as well. where she said, can you say and tell us what happened in Jamaica? J.T. is under the impression that Brett thinks that Madison may have slept with them.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I'll say that again because it's so unbelievable. J.T. believes that Brett thinks that J.T. slept with Madison. As Craig so eloquently puts, nobody thinks that Madison slept with you. I can't reiterate that enough. Not one person watching the show, not one person on the show thinks that you and Madison had an affair. This was never a question mark. I don't know what that FaceTime was about. It was probably about your weird behavior in Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:31:13 That's probably what she's asking about, or your behavior with Taylor or moving on with Vanita. Whatever it might have been, the last thing she was asking for you to explain to Brett was that you guys didn't hook up. I need to know what the FaceTime was about because the idea of the matter. Madison's even facetiming JT in the first place is bizarre to me. So I don't think that the FaceTime even happened to begin with. Oh, but this is all a facade. If it did happen, I need to know what it's about. And we didn't kind of talk about it at the end of the episode,
Starting point is 00:31:42 but we don't know if it happened, what happened during that FaceTime. We'll get the whole story. I hope so because I can't imagine. And I do hope that it was Madison reaching out just to give him shit and saying, what are you doing? you look like an asshole you're treating taylor very weird you're getting an austin shit constantly why don't you stop but could you imagine if this actually happened and nobody's going to believe j t of course oh you think what if it was like a weird what i mean look it love brett love everything
Starting point is 00:32:13 that we see about him but what if behind closed doors brett is very jealous and for some reason he thought that j t madison opened up and this actually happened but nobody's going to believe it and no one's going to listen to jt when he starts talking about it the whole thing is very weird the timing doesn't make a whole lot of sense because that happened like last year why are we talking about it now i know that everybody hated you last season and they didn't really hang out with you in the off season now they're forced to hang out with you now in this season because you have to fill with them so now you're pulling it out it just none of it really makes any sense and the only thing that you can do if you're jt right now is let's keep talking about more conspiracy theories about how my head is turning let's talk about everything else rattling around no don't do that don't do that First of all, let me clarify. It only works. You do not believe that Brett actually thinks. No, I, no, no chance.
Starting point is 00:33:01 No chance on hell. But I do think it's funny only because Shep and Craig gave it zero validity. They did not listen to anything he had to say. They were just making all the faces, laughing at everything that he said. And we can go down the list of all of the things that he was pulling out that made zero sense. But doing this on the heels of, I just want to get into a good place with everybody. So nobody hates me. and I'm going to do this weird cane thing.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Now Patricia already hates me. Madison hates me because of the Patricia thing. Whitney's going to hate me because of the Patricia thing, of course. And then everybody else is going to have some weird feelings about it. I need to just stay the course, apologize, write a nice little letter, and then move on with my life so that people don't come after me. No, we're not going to do that. We're going to go to the other end of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I'm going to point out every other person at that party and say that I have a problem with them and that just start throwing questions out there. Do you think this is weird? How about this one? it's just such bizarre behavior. And because Shep and Craig didn't believe it, I was dying, laughing the whole time because that is the only approach
Starting point is 00:34:03 that you could possibly have to JT going off like that. You can only sit there and laugh at him and give it zero time of day, no attention at all, and just tell him that he's a fucking lunatic. Because otherwise, you start talking to him and asking more questions about it. He's going to think you believe him.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And then when you're at a party next week, and it comes up to everybody and everybody's sitting there, he's going to say, I talk to Craig about it and Craig was asking questions. I think Craig believes me. Now you're involved. You know not to go down that slippery slow. Well, no, I think Craig did a good job of excusing himself from the situation after because he
Starting point is 00:34:35 drops that bomb and you're like, all right, dude, get real. And then to add some more sprinkles on top of the conspiracy, he's like, well, let's talk about Austin. He was wearing polka dot pants that exactly matched Madison's polka dot dress. Dude, you're all the, it was on the invitation. you're from Charleston it was on the invitation it was a milk at that party
Starting point is 00:34:58 Jesus Christ and what are we talking about I was just even if it wasn't in my head I'm like all right they're in Charleston you wear that like Lily Pulitzer shit it's a lot of polka dots and like you're going to a horse race
Starting point is 00:35:08 Pocodots make a lot of sense polka dots florals corals like yeah that's what you're going to wear to these things florals corals and morals yeah those last ones up the Rinder right but like
Starting point is 00:35:20 none of it was I know I'm not seeing Austin the ex boyfriend wearing polka dot pants and her wearing a polka dot dress and being like ooh did they plan this like why would they do that that doesn't make any sense and it leads to him talking more about austin and his relationships and he heard from leva and now we got some clarification because you and i had a little disagreement on this as to what was said and i was right it was i heard austin had a relationship with us somebody else amidst him dating audrey we have no way of knowing this
Starting point is 00:35:51 We have no evidence. We don't know who he was allegedly hooking up with or not. Like, there's just no evidence. But at the same time, J.T, you just said that you wanted to move on from this shit. You just said that you offered an olive branch. We just gave you props in the scene prior to be like, all right, just take this approach. And you'll coast your way through the season, no problem. But to throw yourself back into the heat of this thing.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And Craig and Shep say the same thing. Like, dude, it's none of your fucking business. Yeah. Why do you bring this guy up someone? Why are you so obsess? with Austin. Craig bows out. He's like, I'm not doing this shit again. I'm not going to sit here and listen to you talk shit about him. Leva's lying. I've heard nothing to the contrary. I'm not going to sit here and drag Austin. He leaves. She's trying to be the voice of reason. JT's like, why is he so upset?
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's like, why do you think, dude? You're doing the same shit again. And chef's like, you just need to shut up. He's like, words matter. Just stop talking. You do yourself no favors. Anytime that you get the reins in a scene, you just spiral in the conspiracy. And you're talking to the conspiracy master via Craig and even he's like, fuck off and leaves. He leaves you there. That was your one chance to smooth it over. It was your one chance to move on from last year. And he just threw yourself back into the thick of it. That was just a very silly, stupid move on JT's part. Yeah, and I don't think that he necessarily cares, but at the end of the day, we have to keep thinking about how JT approached the beginning of the season. In real time, he's talking about how he's taking a step away
Starting point is 00:37:14 because this was bad for his mental health. And the only person I can see that you can potentially blame is JT. You don't have to do any of this. I understand if you're trying to make good TV, but you can't do this and then come away from it saying that this ruined my mental health and I need to take a step away from it. You keep doing this shit. If you didn't want to do that and go down that path, then you could have just moved on from last year. You could have tried to find a different way in here. You're friends with Vanita, which I don't know where the hell that's going to go, but you're friends with Vanita and she's giving you advice on every little thing that you're doing. Just listen to Vanita. She seems like a voice of reason.
Starting point is 00:37:48 go with that. Absolutely. If Vanita's in your corner and she is like that little angel on your shoulder that's like, don't do this, always listen to her. The other side is you, J.T. You're the little devil on your other shoulder that gets you into trouble and gets you into stupid scenarios that you create out of nowhere via conspiracy. Listen to the little Vanita on your shoulder, this little angel that's trying to keep you sane
Starting point is 00:38:13 and in this group. She's doing her best to keep you on TV and to have all of us. on this side of things, not pile on. That's what she's trying to protect you from the group and from the Bravo fandom. She's trying her best. And all that's happening is you're dragging her down into it. And we love Vanita. She should not be a part of this.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But because she's nice and cares about you for some reason, she's trying. Just listen to anything Vanita says. Whatever Vanita tells you to do or not do, say or not say, nod your head. Say, thank you, Vanita, for looking out for me. and then do that at no point should you be left to your own volition to do anything you should not be in charge of you because you do stupid things and you have somebody with a brain trying to help you in vanita so just fucking listen to her please please you don't you clearly don't because we know where the season goes yeah but you know there's a little like hindsight advice for you yeah listen to benita please but anyway with mx platinum access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime.
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Starting point is 00:40:30 He seems to be very happy with Audrey. He even misses her. I know, right? Big steps for this guy. He misses somebody. Yeah. One big step during this scene when he's riding two Craigs and one huge step back. Sitting there and talking about Craig with his head so far up his ass that he's in this new world.
Starting point is 00:40:46 you can't do that. Like, of all the things that are going on, like just point to how Craig is handling the Shep situation. Shep was a mess. Craig removed himself from the situation and ghosted Shep. We just saw it with J.T. JT started getting messy. Craig is removing himself.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Craig doesn't really, and yeah, there were things where him and Austin were at odds and he was treating him differently. Let's just go through the things that Austin did that Craig stepped around for or stayed around for. Austin started off with Sierra and he fucked her over. Sierra is Paige's best friend. He then went to Summer House and fucked around with Lindsay and then caused even more drama. And Craig stayed there.
Starting point is 00:41:26 He then moves into the Southern Charm season and he hooks up with Taylor, Shep's X. And there's a whole thing going on with all of that. Craig stayed with him for all of those things. Austin needs to get his head out of his own ass and stop talking badly about Craig because Craig is your only good friend. We look at all of these things. he's the only one who's sticking by you. Shep can't be a good friend. We know that. Craig will be. You need to align yourself with Craig. You need to look at his beautiful backyard and you need to say, wow, that is a beautiful backyard. I want to do what you're doing. I'm going to keep
Starting point is 00:41:54 going down that path and I want to be you. That would be a good move for Austin. He started out with that. He said, maybe I should take some notes from Craig. But at the same time, he's so far up his own ass, he likes the way it smells. It's like, just the line. Like you said, align yourself with this guy. He's doing well. And like he doesn't have time for the bullshit because he's doing well. busy and he says like when it gets to like nighttime I don't want to go out I want to cook dinner and hang out and go to bed he's just growing up he's moving on and he's trying his best to stay in your life and like help you out whether that's just by showing you the way or whatever but you can't fault him for taking care of himself now and like you said very well I might add
Starting point is 00:42:33 just by mapping out what we've seen Austin do over the what is this two years now the past two years well that's the thing that Austin and Shep like to do they point to Craig 10 years ago. Like Craig didn't have his shit together 10 years ago. He lied about passing the bar and we see a little bit more of this where he's not passing the bar and he's lying about graduating college and all of these things. It's 10 to 12 years ago. Shep, you cheated on your girlfriend that you loved last two years. Yeah, last year. Two years ago. Austin, you hooked up with Shep Sachs girlfriend that he loved last year. That's not throw stones here. This is all recency bias. I understand this. But you're all doing this.
Starting point is 00:43:07 So leave Craig alone because he's the only one who's in a good place now and set for the future. he's got a girlfriend that loves him that they will figure it out and we've refused to talk about until they figure it out but that's it that's all we're going to hear about that you two need to get it together stop blaming craig for all of these things and stop talking about things that he did before because he's in such a better place than you guys are i think it's just you know a little envy yeah it's definitely the color of envy green doesn't look good on you guys nope not down in charleston no we don't wear green and charles everyone knows that everybody knows that it's like wearing white after labor day don't you dare god damn it
Starting point is 00:43:42 But Craig fills Austin in on JT's most recent JTere, if you will. And obviously Austin's, I don't even think he has time for it anymore. I don't know what his response is going to be. It's going to be interesting to watch. If he's smart, he'll just stay out of it at the same time. He told you sell. That's all you got to do. Yeah, and I'm glad he has that.
Starting point is 00:44:05 He feels vindicated. He feels like, and especially later when Moore's coming out about JT, like he feels like he's proven his point i hope he sticks with that and realizes like you really don't have to do a lot here you're going to hurt yourself if you get into a jt because he's going to drag you down into that just like annoying nat behavior to where you snap and now you look like you're overreacting let him bury himself i hope that he he sticks with that approach and the funny thing is is as this is going on finita goes over to j t's new apartment and bless her heart like she's trying like she's trying to see his side of things she's trying to be a good friend j t's giving her the run through with
Starting point is 00:44:43 the craig and shep he's like they both got in my face about the love of stuff like they're foaming at the mouth i'm like that's not what happened at all you put yourself in a bad spot they removed themselves from the situation and they questioned you about it because they don't agree with you but now you're spinning it into this whole different thing vanita trying her best to salvage the situation was like well it looks like you were just looking for friends and you need people that you can talk to and trust I'm like, sure, I guess. Did you tell her the context of what you were talking about? And he does a little bit, but he just says it was about the Leva stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And he was like, in a confessional, like, dude, you just got back in. Just play it cool. Just coast. That's what we're saying. Like, just coast for a while, bro. Don't go in like this. I think that he must feel like, and it's clearly some complex he has about himself that has to prove himself or like, up drama or come up with a storyline,
Starting point is 00:45:37 show that he is worthy of being in the spotlight with these other dudes. It's like they didn't set the bar very high, dude. These guys, for all intents and purposes, most of them are messes. Like they cheat. They're trying to figure out their life late in their 30s, into their 40s. I think Whitney's in his fucking
Starting point is 00:45:53 50s. I think so. I'm trying to figure that out without looking at up. You don't have to do that much to come out smelling pretty good here. And yet you continue to do the wrong thing, even with Vanita, who's trying so hard to be like, yeah, you need friends too. Eish.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Like, I don't know what to tell you, dude. Like, I thought this scene was like way more of a planting a seed for JT and Veneta. And I didn't care for it. Because obviously, we're not getting anything out of JT. If JT was that much of a lunatic and that much of an idiot, he would have sat there and gone through everything that he brought up at the golf simulator. He brought up, yeah, he brought up some of it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And like, you can tell Benetia is just like, stop. just i know what you're trying to do just enough it's not going to go well for you it's not going to go well for me because now i'm attached to you i don't want to deal with any of this but all of the other things happening in this scene were just little like nicisms of oh man you don't live like a five minute walk anymore i have to get the car and i have to drive over and we can't do breakfast and i'm like what the fuck is happening i'll make that drive for you yeah like what is that i'll make that drive for you you'd make that drive for me for you no i'm not doing a fucking fair amount Come on.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Yeah, maybe on like a Saturday for a little brecky. There we go, yeah. No bricky. But I didn't care for the seeds being planted of, what is this? I still don't know what it is. And I don't want to know. You don't know. Time will tell.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I don't want to know. You're going to find out eventually. But let's get to the Easter extra extravaganza at Patricia's. And she's setting up the whole thing. It's nice. You know, it's very, very Miss Patricia, you know, over the top. Regal, you love it. But she's trying.
Starting point is 00:47:32 trying to set up Molly and Whitney. She puts them next to each other, what's their name tags there, which is nice. And I hope that Molly sees that because she questions if Miss Patricia will see her as classy or she looks down on her.
Starting point is 00:47:44 So I hope that she watched this scene. He goes, oh, okay, she's trying to hook me up with her son. So clearly she thinks well of me, because I really like Molly. I think she's a good addition to this show. At this point,
Starting point is 00:47:53 Miss Patricia is just trying to hook Whitney up with anybody, though. Like, probably. Like, I need you here to take care of certain things, but I don't want to see you that often. You think that's what it is. You're hanging out with you too much.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah, unless you have grandkids, then you can come back and do whatever. But enough of you here. Yeah, I agree. You're building your bar in the back with all the whiskeys. And no, we're not doing that. Yeah, what a loser. What a fucking loser. But something that troubled me.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And I'm going to be very critical of Shep this season because of the ending of last season, because I spoke out on his behalf and said, hey, man, I hope that you're getting your shit together. And it's cool that you were able to see the. air in your ways and go try to get it sorted out. I don't do that for people very often. So I feel like I'm invested in this fight now. And the first instance we have to see some kind of change, and it's small. Sure, it's not like a big thing, but it is still something where Whitney's like, hey, can I get you, was it Seltzer or like a cranberry juice or something? He's like, no, I'll take champagne. I'm like, don't. If you're trying to make change, don't. Even if it's
Starting point is 00:48:57 simply for optics to show people that you're making an effort. Like, it's not a out can you control yourself on the champagne and that's what a lot of people with issues do they're like i can watch this i'll prove to you i can drink in public it's like that's not the point it's like how long can you sustain this before you do a full spiral so i hated that it started out that way he's already after last episode putting all the blame on austin and craig pretty much for his behavior being like well i came to you guys you didn't help me and then i spiraled it's like that's not on them they removed themselves because they were sick of the spiral that's okay they're allowed to do that. So in two episodes, you have one, put your problems on other people. Two, when somebody
Starting point is 00:49:36 offered you a non-alcoholic beverage to help you out, even though it felt like it was almost ingest coming from Whitney, you say, no, give me champagne. So I'm seeing zero effort to actually make a change. I'm not surprised, but I am bummed and it does piss me off. But whatever, trying to not get flustered about it. It's just annoying. I hate when people use that shit like to try to prop themselves up then it that's when it makes addiction and stuff like that seem lesser than a disease and more like a cop out for people like people like this do it right it's like well you're you're you're you're downplaying the situation now but whatever i don't want to get into it i'm sure i'll have to talk about it at some point this season because every show that
Starting point is 00:50:17 we're watching has something to do with it so i i would like to not do it in this one but they start talking about the cane comment and patricia is obviously pissed she's like why give an 80-year-old I didn't realize she was 80. She looks fantastic for 80. Oh, yeah, big time. This is a big Ms. Patricia show. We love Ms. Patricia. But Craig, this is not corroborated.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I've seen this all over social media recently. He claims that J.T. called Miss Patricia a bitch. Now, Shep didn't hear it. We didn't hear it. There were cameras there. They didn't catch it. We got an, like, an audio not found thing. so we can't corroborate this.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Could I see J.T. in one of his verbal vomit spirals? Yeah. Just say like, oh, that bitch or something like that. Yes, I could. Will I condemn him for something I did not see? No, I will not. Yeah, I don't know if he did.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I figured more so, it's more likely that he would have done it the day of at the Carolina Cup while he was walking away maybe because of how it all went down where Patricia and Whitney eventually just got it right up and walked away. and people were obviously looking at JT and then he starts to spiral, I can see that. But if we saw all of those other crazy things at the golf simulator,
Starting point is 00:51:35 and we didn't see that, I don't think it happens there. So maybe Craig just has a story wrong. Maybe he's got his lineup wrong. Maybe it happens somewhere else. We like to believe Craig here, but I need evidence. Yeah, we need evidence for that one.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And we don't have it. So we can't comment on it. I won't do it. Even with JT, I won't do it. Could I see it happening? 100%. yes. Will I go in on him for doing it? No, because we haven't seen it. But correct. What I'm so glad Craig didn't. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Starting point is 00:52:06 If you want the JT situation handled, just tap in Madison. Oh, yeah. Because that's when we'll get old Madison. Because of her newfound life, because of her husband and her family and this new outlook, the one thing that you can do to get old Madison to come out is threaten that. And for somebody like JT to call into question the sanctity of her marriage how faithful she is to her husband that will get old Madison to come out and she will wipe the floor with Jay he doesn't know what kind of thunder he's bringing down on himself he has no idea this could be what he's referring to when he said that he had to take a step away because he has to go lick his wounds after what Madison did to him that's what
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm thinking could be the case but we'll have to see because she is not going to pull any punches on this she hasn't been activated in a while and like I said she's She's still there somewhere beneath all the love and everything going on with her family. She is still there and ready to go. Old Madison is still there. Current Madison is dealing with a lot at home, a lot of serious emotional stuff. The last thing she needs is some dude, especially some dude like JT, throwing up question marks about whether or not she was faithful to Brett.
Starting point is 00:53:20 So I think this could be one of the best reads that we're going to get out of Madison, especially because it's been a while since we've had like a full-blown Madison like Mike drop moment. I'm really excited to watch the interaction. You could be right. This could have been the last thing for J.T. to be like, oh, my God, I can't recover from this.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Because she's going to skewer him. It's going to be awesome to watch and he deserves it. I don't think this is my biggest problem with J.T. When he does stuff like this, he doesn't think through the ramifications of certain things that he's saying. Like, you think it's just quirky thing for TV. you're fucking with a marriage and a kid involved.
Starting point is 00:53:57 There's deeper stuff here and when you do this all willy-nilly, you open yourself up to a whole lot of backlash and you fucked with the wrong one in Madison. Like anybody else there, you probably would have gotten off a little easier. This is literally the worst person you could have done this to,
Starting point is 00:54:12 and I can't wait to watch her taking the task. Yeah, this is the final boss of you being a little asshole. Yeah. You want to go up, you want to test your skills? Go ahead. Absolutely. We're going to have fun watching it. But we get to the dinner scene.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Shep gives, I will say, probably one of my favorite toasts I've heard at any holiday. That was, that was wonderful. It was incredible. Yeah, I really enjoyed, like, genuinely, not even sarcastically. I love that he knew who Punch his pilot was, but didn't know who Judas was. Yeah, that is. That is a chef is a middellateau. He knew he was a, a coward.
Starting point is 00:54:44 A coward. He's like sniveling coward. I mean, he was as well. Yeah. He's a coward and a betrayer. But I liked his speech. But as dinner comes out. looks lovely it looks very uh i know it was easter it gave me thanksgiving vibes it did but the sweet
Starting point is 00:54:58 potatoes is that what it was the orange on the plate makes it thanksgiving yeah yeah i don't know if i have sweet potatoes for easter yeah i don't think so i'm trying to think maybe like a sweet potato cassero with the mushrooms the marshmallows on i've never fucked with that by the way oh i love that oh it's the best yeah when they get charred up top too because they get a little different texture I know shade I just I've never been big on it I try to I've try you know I'll try things multiple times I've tried it I just can't get into it I like sweet potato mash but not that yeah like a nice puree yeah I remember K pod they did the sweet potato dessert oh my god yeah with the heater taught me out of ice cream on it and I forgot I forgot you know there's a there's a step in
Starting point is 00:55:43 the process that he microwaves it oh and that's what makes like the sugar or whatever like stand out in that wild it's like bake microwave bake again i believe i gotta remember it was so it's one of the best desserts i've ever had those sweet luck with you remembering things oh am i right usually with cooking that's where i have this weird recall with cooking that's the only thing so i don't cross your fingers i'll keep trying but anyway dessert comes out as we know molly's having some body image issues right well some confidence issues as well they bring out some cupcakes we We get the cupcake hack, which this is my favorite hack in the world because everybody likes to claim that they invented it. Correct.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Every person have ever seen this from, they're like, oh, have you ever seen this? It's like, this is what everybody does. And you do, for those that you don't know, you're the last to not know. And now you do know, cut your cupcake in half, flip it over, make a little cupcake sandwich with the icing. It is a better way to eat a cupcake. You get icing in every bite and it doesn't get messy. So that's the, that's the hack if you didn't know it. but everyone does and then you act like you're back to it.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Whatever. Molly's eating her cupcake. She's like, oh, I was going to show that trick. You ruined it. It's going to be the cool person. As she's eating it,
Starting point is 00:56:56 Whitney looks at her and goes, who, that's the last thing you need. When I tell you, I was visibly upset that this guy, of all people, is going to throw this kind of shade at a woman, period, let alone somebody dealing with body image issues.
Starting point is 00:57:12 This was one of the most disrespectful comments I've heard on one of these shows. from a guy who at this premiere that I went to, first of all, he has blonde highlighted tips right now. Yep, all right. You are in, you have blonde. Oh, no, you should have seen at the premiere. It was full blonde on top.
Starting point is 00:57:30 All right. So he just had it retouched up. Full blonde on top. You are in your 50s, sir. You live at home with your mother. You've never done anything with your life. You're embarrassing to watch on TV. You were my least favorite character before I liked Southern Charm.
Starting point is 00:57:42 You have no redeeming qualities other than money. That's not even yours. that's your mothers you don't offer anything to this world somebody battling body image issues you're going to sit there and say you don't need that cupcake she looks awesome she looks great in this scene she looks great in every scene that we've seen her i saw at the premiere she looks great you look like shit you look like a wannabe rock star nerd that highlights your fucking hair blonde you have no room to point the finger at anybody for their actions or behavior or how they look, you literally live at home with your mommy.
Starting point is 00:58:20 You don't do anything. You play the guitar and you say big words and you think that you're cultured and edgy. You have no life experience other than sucking on your mom's tit for your entire career. That's what you've done. What you've done is brought this show to Bravo. Congratulations, because you had a quirky friend group of stuck up assholes in the beginning. And yeah, stick a camera on us and watch how deplorable we are. That's the basis of Southern Charm.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Shall we go into the T-Rav scenario? You haven't done anything. Molly has. She's battling this whole thing. She gained 40 pounds because of medicine she's taking because of hormone issues with her thyroid. She's losing out of modeling jobs. And the last thing that she needs is somebody that she is trying to be affectionate with,
Starting point is 00:59:00 calling her fat on TV because you think it's fucking funny. When again, sir, your big claim over these past two seasons is building a whiskey bar at Mommy's house with Mommy's money. Shut the fuck up. Whitney, don't talk about anybody else's appearance. Don't talk about anybody else's lot and wife. life, go back home to mommy's house, curl up into bed, she'll come tuck you in, she'll have the butler give you a little hot cocoa before you pass out, and then you can listen to rock and roll
Starting point is 00:59:23 music and think that you're edgy and cool because you wear trench coats. Go fuck yourself, you blonde-haired dick. By the way, when I met him, he was a fucking asshole. He was in, not polite at all. He shook my hand, brushed me off. I don't give a shit. I don't care if these people like me. You know that. Everyone that listens to us know that. I know a lot of people at that premiere that I get along with. They're nice people. Most of that cast is great, and they give you the time of day. They'll talk to you, whatever. The fact that he thinks he's better than anybody when he's done nothing with his life, given every opportunity in the world is the funniest shit I've ever heard. And for him to try to throw shade at a beautiful woman for eating
Starting point is 00:59:56 a fucking cupcake, go cut your hair and get a job, you fucking deadbeat. Yeah, I think this worked out super well that he had the frosted tips in the scene too, because it's obviously he's the biggest dickbag in the world. And I thought that Molly handled that very well, considering all the stuff that she's going through and all the things that she shared with us about her current body image issues and how she's thinking about it and how she has to think about it every day. So for the fact that he's going to do that, while Molly's worried that she's not classy enough for Patricia, she handled herself with just class. Was able to play it off as a joke. Obviously, you still call him out for it. Everybody's jaw dropped there. Even Shep, who we've seen say terrible,
Starting point is 01:00:34 terrible things to people, who we've seen him and Whitney for whatever reason get along forever because they've both been assholes to women, to sit there and not have. a word to say to him in front of your mother who you will pretty much your entire claim to fame is through your mother you're going to embarrass her in front of that you're going to embarrass your entire family you're going to embarrass everything going on around here just by saying that and then playing it off as a joke and being like oh yeah no she knows for 10 years i can say that yeah no you can't no just because you've known somebody you can know somebody your entire life you don't say that you just don't say anything like that and you don't deserve to sit there and get
Starting point is 01:01:08 upset that J.T. handed your mother a cane if that's how you're going to handle women. Correct. Because you're a bag of dicks. That's how you would handle an 80-year-old woman if you were giving out canes. You would do the same thing because you have no class. You're a fucking little piece of shit. He's the worst. He's the worst one on
Starting point is 01:01:24 this show. That's why I don't really care about JT anymore. After Whitney made that comment, everybody's thinking the same thing. What an absolute piping hot loser that guy is. And that's all that matters. And that should be the everybody's takeaway. You can look at everybody else on this cast and say they've got shortcomings. He is the shortcoming of all shortcomings.
Starting point is 01:01:42 That's where we stand. It just goes to prove the old saying money can't buy you class. You're rich, dude. That's it. You got money because your mom has money because she hustled. You didn't have done shit, but waste her fucking money. She can't even set you up with somebody to have grandkids because you're such a piece of shit. She literally gave up at the end of this episode.
Starting point is 01:02:01 She goes, I give up. Your mom has given up on you. Because she knows that you're just going to continue to bleed her dry of her money. do nothing with your life and say mean things about women great what a guy what a guy class act uh i didn't want to meet him somebody somebody somebody and you know exactly who was like dude you got to meet him he's the best i don't say i really don't want to and he brought him over he's like dude this my boy steal blah blah blah it's like so man nice to meet you he was like i got a drink and like fucking cold shoulder me i was like and the person introduced
Starting point is 01:02:32 me is like i'm really sorry man like i hate when he does that when he drinks i was like If it makes you feel any better, that's exactly how I expected it to go. I expected nothing more from that big piece of shit. And nor do I give a fuck, by the way, which is why I'm saying it on here. I do not care. Don't care at all. Why would we? For that guy, are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 01:02:52 What? Because he has money? Like, no, bro. And go fuck yourself. But anyway, let's get to some Preguntas. Some questions from our faves. Oh, Rachel, I'll answer that one at the end. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Oh, I like this for Max June. Do you prefer Taylor or Olivia? Olivia times a thousand. Yeah, not even close. Not even close. Although I will say, again, Taylor's not doing anything. Like, we got a scene with her in Gastone. That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 01:03:20 She didn't do anything in the first episode either. I'm okay with that. I'm fine with it, yeah. Because, you know what? She doesn't, again, she doesn't need to be on the show. No, but she also read the room and she's like, she's doing what J.T. should be doing. She's just trying to fade off a little bit, like, get through the first few episodes, and then maybe be in, like, the good graces with some people.
Starting point is 01:03:36 people and work her way back in. This is the correct move after a disaster of last season. This is so funny from Jamie Gibbs. Not a question. Just clarifying J. He did not go to A&M despite his hat. We don't claim him. That's funny because I forgot to say that.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And I was like, of course this guy went to fucking A&M. Yeah. Absolutely. Jamie, you're vindicated. Nice job. From Jazz and A, if you can choose one perfect girl for Whitney, who would it be? why he didn't deserve it he doesn't deserve anybody that we've seen yeah i'm trying to like i i'm trying to go to like my least favorite people on every show
Starting point is 01:04:22 and they're all still so much better than him like even like alexis bellino still better actually johnny jay the two of them can go all yeah whitney you should date who says it has to be a girl yeah Yeah, you didn't clarify. She did say perfect girl. No, Johnny Jay. Yeah. Johnny Jay and Whitney could be very happy with one another. Let's go two more.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I like Miranda E412. I saw this meme earlier. Not a question, but JT's sitting on the bar reminds me of Elf on the shelf. That is great. That's really funny. Yeah. From Kate Linner.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Did you see the Dumois email about the video of Shep? It was skating. Did you see that? I haven't seen that. No. We have to do some digging there. Yeah, we'll have to do some digging there. Because there was another video that was referenced for a different Bravo person that did come out and is definitely true.
Starting point is 01:05:16 So what's that? We'll touch DJ, James Kennedy. Oh, yeah. Well, we have a lot to say about that. Yeah. That one will pop up on a new segment for sure. Yeah, that rightfully so. yeah i don't i don't know even just google it i can't find it but if you listen to this send it to us
Starting point is 01:05:36 a lot of the if there's a video there's a video great but at this point i don't trust blind items the blind items coming out now there's too many of them and most of them end up not end up being true so yeah i don't try and to their credit i mean dumois says like these are not it's not like they're throwing out they say like these are not corroborated so i'm not going to throw shade there but I do tend to tread lightly with blind items until there's evidence to corroborate. Let's go with one more. You told Rachel that you did.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I will answer the last one. Yeah, that's the last one. From Sarah Polarty. I know you love him, but please call out Craig for in fact lying a lot on camera over the ears. I will say Craig said I don't watch what happens live. I've never lied on camera. You have.
Starting point is 01:06:22 You have. We have camera evidence of it. Frequently in the past. You are, in fact, a changed man for all intents and purposes. And we applaud you for the changes. Sure do. But you can't say you've never lied. You've lied a decent amount of it.
Starting point is 01:06:36 They showed a montage of relying this episode. And again, we don't have video evidence of the JT stuff. I believe that that may have happened, but it's just, you know, maybe we'll get it. Maybe we won't. But yeah, we do love Craig. But yeah, we'll say that. That's easy. And then from Rachel Nicholas, favorite and least favorite person you met at the premiere party.
Starting point is 01:06:54 My favorite, that's tough. there's a lot of level was was was really really nice yeah they enjoyed talking to leva um who else was great zach i mean zach and benjy were probably my faves because we we spent the whole evening with them and they were delightful but that's the nice thing about most of these events that shooter and i when we go to them 90 percent i would say of the people you see on tv are really nice in person like even if you quote unquote are villain on tv like in person most of these people are very respectful very nice to give you the time of day. They'll shoot the shit. So I've had very few bad interactions like I had with
Starting point is 01:07:30 my least favorite person there, which was Whitney. But again, I almost appreciated that it went that way because I was like, oh, this is who you are. That's what I figured. And now I know for a fact. You're a dick. Great. Yeah. Moving on. So yeah, that, that's the answer to your question there. Rachel Mickelis, hopefully that helps. But other than that, we got another show to do right now. So I'm going to go ahead and wrap this bad boy. Have you got anything else? Nope. All good here. Yeah. Brow bros are out of here. The Old West is an iconic period of American history and full of legendary figures whose names still resonate today.
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