Bros & Shows - Julia and Alexia were Right about Adriana... (RHOM Finale Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

What's up Bros? That's a wrap on another great season of RHOM. The finale was slightly underwhelming but the season overall was awesome. We bop from event to event and it seems like the majority of the ladies are getting along fairly well. Adriana turns this SHOMA event into the biggest show of her life... What we weren't expecting is to flip to Julia and Alexia's side, but here we are. They made total sense and after watching this crashout by Adriana, it's hard to be on her side of things. Especially when things escalate and she immediately resorts to "old" jokes and hollers at Marysol. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. well another season of miami in the books it was a solid year slightly underwhelming finale but you know what i'll give it to them because it was a great season it was a great season and christmas always makes me feel warm and fuzzy yeah good boys and shows i gotta have me my pros and shows bros and shows bros and shows i gotta have me my bros and shows good afternoon everybody welcome back to another episode of bros and shows i'm your co-host steel russell joined as always by the one and only for one more time.

Well, I guess the reunion, too. Well, South Beach Begoots, what's it? Four more time, South Beach Goots. Hey, there. Like you said, an underwhelming finale. Didn't even know this was the finale going into it. Thought we had two more episodes. Oh, 17, which is weird.

That's where I start to, like, think, was there a lost episode? 18, 19, 20. Reunion. Gives us a full 20. Yeah, but usually we get 18 episodes plus three. I agree. Yeah, I don't think that there was a whole lot of thought put into that, but it was interesting um i didn't really expect a whole lot from i don't know it it seems like resolution wise

for a season usually when the finale happens there's some resolution and then that back half is new conflicts or things that have boiled over that we can talk about in the reunion this didn't really have either of those feels no it had new drama like kind of kind of but it's all i don't No, it was like rehashing shit that we've talked about. What we did get, and at least it was the last episode of the season, but we got Adriana back in full force. Yeah. And not in a positive way.

I do have some news. There are some rumors out there about what they're going to do with the cast next year already. I could see some moves being made. And there's some, it's not corroborated whatsoever, but a couple different pages posted the same thing, not the exact same template or anything like that, but said the same thing for in and out, in and out, in and out. the people who are supposedly out according to all of these bloggers or, you know, people that just post are Adriana, Gertie and Kiki.

Oh, Gertie and Kiki are gone. Yeah. I don't want them gone. I, it's funny you said Adriana because after this episode, I was like, she really just doesn't fit with this group. No, and it's a shame, too, because this was the first season where 95% of the season I was on her team. Yeah. But in the last two episodes, you can see why she doesn't really fit. it's just interesting.

The way that she addresses conflict, I think, is the big problem. And I don't think she's always done this, but it's getting worse every season. When she becomes the center of attention, the center stage, whatever it might be, she doesn't handle it well. And it's just really perplexing. What the fuck are you saying? I don't understand. If you had a good argument, stay by all means, because everybody seems to not like you to some extent.

But if you can hold your own and you have good arguments and you can create some drama, absolutely stay on the show. when she gets to a point where push comes to shove, it just doesn't really make a whole lot of sense whatever she's saying. So it doesn't work. And if you have somebody like Julia, who's finally in that point

where we're like, all right, this is kind of what we're building towards. We've been talking about it all season. And Julia is able to just stand there stone-faced and just kind of shoe you away and actually make a lot of sense for somebody like Julia. I know. It's a tough look.

And I know that Andy doesn't like Adriana and he never really liked Adriana. He always just kind of treats her like, yeah, whatever, get away from me. And it doesn't even really look. her way at the reunion. He said something, and it's just a one-off, but Bromwin was on Watch Robbins Live last night, and she was going through shady remarks from the season, and obviously there's some bangers out there, the Derinda one from years ago about the Holland Tunnel, whatever it may have

been. He gets to Adriana and Adriana talking about old bony knees, and he's like, yeah, I don't really care for that one. I give it a one. That's the extent of which that Andy does not really care for Adriana, so I could see her leaving easily. Yeah, she had a solid year, but it's because she wasn't involved. The second she gets involved, it's like, aye. Like, you don't make sense. Clearly, and you got a big picture of it this episode, like the Gerties and the Kikis of the group,

like the nice people of the group. I got the vibe. It's like, oh, they're just tolerating her because they feel bad. Yeah, and it's not even like they don't want to deal with her wrath. No, it's just like they feel bad for her. Yeah. And they're like, hey, hey, like they're trying to.

Which we do, too, honestly. It's hard not to, but at this job. sure it's like this episode for me was kind of highlighting like you you just don't really fit with the group now right now she really doesn't fit with the group and it's not by you know some crazy stroke of genius where marisal's been moving in the shadows the whole time this was it was brutal at the end of it it really was it was a lot of things came to the surface and it's like oh man like all the things that we told you that you were doing well kind of went out the window. We gave you the benefit of the doubt on the whole Ratchet, wretched thing and tried

to see it your way. I don't think it really is anymore. I think it's pretty clear cut now. I don't, I don't, here's what I am saying. I don't think she, I still don't think she knows it Ratchet, man. I agree with that, yes. Like, I do believe that. I think she was doing it in a racist way, but it's pretty tough when there's a smoking gun. It's just a bad look. I'm like, we've gone over that, but, you know, I don't know. I just, I think that at the end of the day, she had a good run. It's time to move on. Uh, it's going to crush her, but she's trying to take her show nationwide now. So maybe that'll work.

It's her dream. We'll get there. But I'm, I'm really confused too, because going into this and weeks ago, we got the seating chart, and it was Alexia and Stephanie right across from each other. And we're like, okay, what happens here? Maybe something happened in the off season, like after they stopped filming that kind of led to their, them just kind of dissolving their friendship. I don't really know, but they seem fine throughout and at the end of this episode. Yeah. I don't really get it.

think what you're going to see what I'm assuming is Adriana's last episode, like this finale, I think that probably united the group aside for her. I think everyone's like, all right, we're all pretty cool. Like obviously, there's still some tension here and there. But at the same time, like, we're viving right now. There's the problem. So we might have a reunion where everyone's like kind of cool, but then we dive into some things and we get some resolution. Or like you said, it's very plausible that something popped off in the off system. But Let's jump into this one, and we start out with a good old Christmas party, little juxtapose scene. We got 1A and one B, Christmas and Marisol's.

One B, Alexia and Frankie's beauty bar, which I totally agree. If Frankie's there, business is probably doing better. Yeah. I would go get a manny paddy if Frankie was there if I could just hang out and talk to him. Absolutely. During that, and I'm just going to get this out of the way right now, did you see the look that he shot Julia when she kissed him on the face? No. Holy shit.

He does not like Julia. Interesting. Absolutely not. And look, he's got some very strong opinions. He gets to say whatever the hell he wants, and I love it. Julia sat down next to him and said, oh, Frankie, I love you so much, gave him a kiss on the cheek. And he looked like, fuck are you, get off. Hey, dude, away from me.

That's interesting. I wonder why. I wonder what's going on there. The one thing I noted at Marisol's, and I don't know if she was like, just Joshin. Gertie talking to that woman with the bracelet, what the fuck was that? I do not know. That was bizarre. Yeah, I don't know.

I fully agree. standing there with her Larsa. Larsa was standing there. Larsa was very confused. And I appreciated Larsa this whole episode. Yeah, she was good. The whole time, both at Marisol's and at the end party at Stephanie's, and I guess you can call it Adriana's, and maybe even Kikis, that was a big joint effort.

There was a lot of things announced. But at this juncture, if Larsa is the one who's making sense, there's a problem here. And I don't know, I don't think it was a goof. I think what happened was she knows this is the finale. like they're they're wrapping up filming she's like oh larsa or larza gertie oh god gertie that was strange yeah that was very strange really weird so take that off i don't want that like just do what i'm telling i thought she was also talking to one of her friends and then when they pan up and it's the woman working the bracelets or whatever it was it was weird it was strange all right like you can just

let her work on the bracelet and then walk over there and go do your free stuff come back and get it yeah i don't know it was a weird weird interaction she's like i got a lot to do i got to get an IV. I got to go try to win a crane machine. I got to go, what the hell else was there? Facials, probably, massages. There was a lot of shit there. I love the tenacity. I just thought that it was a strange way to treat somebody. Yeah. And like if she was just goofing, the woman making the bracelet wasn't in on the joke. No. So I felt that. We weren't either. No, I didn't like that. But with Larsa, I think what you're seeing in this last episode is she's probably chalked it up to season's rapping. I did my part early on. I'm pretty cool with everybody. I'm

I'm just going to enjoy myself this last day. I'm going to end on a high note, you know, just kind of keep to myself and let the crazy do its thing. She's one of the few that can just rest on their laurels. She did her job. Yep. She did her job. Delivered for a few episodes there.

You tried to re-deliver again when you got back from Milan. It worked out pretty well. It just struck a chord with Jody and Lisa, which got things going. No, you just get the rest. Yeah. And it's fine. I'm okay with that. Me too.

Nice job. But Kiki and Julia arrive. And we hear that Julia is throwing a event with the Miami Opera House, I believe, and the foster care company organization is probably a better word for that, where she worked with to get the boys. And it's this big event, you know, they're raising money for foster care. They're raising awareness. It's also a chance for her to perform again. We know she's been doing her classical music thing. So big deal in the world of Julia, right? It embodies a lot. Especially you added that caveat in the world of Julia?

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's if this, did you, did you get the idea? that this just kind of came together randomly and she just decided like two days before like hey why don't you guys come no because of the size of it yeah if the opera house is involved i imagine this is the fucking zoom call all over again yeah could yeah this is just what julia does she knows things she understands the things are going to happen oh you're saying for like the last minute invite like yeah yeah that was weird that's where i'm actually on adriana's side when we get to that but with julia you're now just talking about this and i know look it's housewives um this is mean, but most of them aren't doing anything.

They can move plans around. Well, I think a better way to say that is this is their job. So, yeah, this is their job. It's not like they have a nine to five that they have to be like, oh, shit, I have to like get PTO like the rest of us do. Yeah, I can probably make that. And I'm sure it's like a Monday afternoon. Yeah.

It's one of those types of things. But again, it does seem a lot like the Zoom call. Like, oh, yeah, guys, why don't you come over to this? And if you don't come, I'm going to hold it against you. That's an interesting way. I didn't look at it that way. I could see that side of it. If it wasn't for what Adriana was doing, that's where I'm like...

Right, yeah, it goes right up. But like for the rest of the women when she's talking about who she invited, you know, the ones that couldn't be there, she didn't really have a lot of compassion to be like... Oh, they've got things going on. It's okay. You know, it was a last minute invite. She's like, yeah, it really sucks that they can't be here. It's like, you invited them a day ago.

Yeah, no, I see that side of it. I didn't look at it that way or there. But Adrienne and Gertie sit down, and this is where I start to get the sense of like, oh, they're just trying to be nice to her. And she's like, what the hell happened with the Julia stuff? And they're talking back and forth. And, you know, she says she has all this energy for Alexia and Marisol, none of this energy for you, what's going on.

And Adriana's starting. And you can feel it. She kind of walked in with that air about her. You know, she clearly wanted some props for the outfit. And then as she's sitting there with Gertie, she's like, you know, she's a covert enemy. I'm like, okay, this is coming on a little strong. I obviously am not a huge Julia fan.

but I don't know this episode changed a lot perspective wise and it's been happening honestly from the tail end of last episode into this episode where Julia is coming from makes so much

makes a lot more sense and I'm just doing that from a completely unbiased standpoint obviously we have our feelings about Julia and what's going on but if you're looking at it just in the realm of the show I understand fully

why Julia is separating herself this is not simply and I'm you know both can be true, but it's not simply a, I want to be friends with Alexia and Marisol, I have to get rid of Adriana. That's part of it, but it's a small part of it. The big part is, I don't want to have to deal with Adriana anymore. That's what I got.

I was like, okay, I don't like you, but I understand. I kind of see where you're coming from. Now, at Frankie and Alexia's beauty bar, Peter's there. Obviously, you know, we all know about Peter, but I've been really interested on Peter's take on the Todd situation. I think we talked about that a couple weeks ago. and we get it here and you know

is it Johnny is Johnny the friend so Johnny brings it up to Peter saying hey man what going on do you know what's going on and Peter's like no I don't know shit

I find out from page 6 the day before it airs like it's pretty annoying actually I do think because we talked about did Todd legit just like bounce and leave Frankie alone after hearing Peter

I think Todd just bounced and left Frankie alone I think he did I think there's still like some different nuances to the story I don't, when I think about it now, so beginning of the season when we were told what happens in my mind, in my picture in my mind, it was Frankie sitting on the bed alone or sitting

on the couch and Todd was moving out with his daughter, just bags in hands, like see you later, Frankie, I'm out of here. Now I'm thinking Frankie wasn't actually in the apartment still, but I do think that it, again, it's overarching view. He left Frankie while you were out or whatever it may have been. I think he left him solo. That's the vibe I'm getting just because of how protective Peter is about it. And he's like, you know, it's not fair to Frankie. What if he leaves him again? And I think the biggest issue here is like, did he apologize to the boys?

And Alexia was like, no. It's like, well, that's fucked. Todd sucks balls. And like, we obviously find out at the end that they, which is crazy that this has been an ongoing season long thing. It's affected friendships with Marisol. Marisol's questioning if she's going to be friends with Alexia because she's talked so much shit.

officially divorced, officially broken up, did not work out. I still, we called our shot weeks ago. I still think by the time the reunion airs, so what's the deal with Todd? Where are you guys currently? Well, we're figuring things out. We're talking again. We're dating. We actually went away to New York for the weekend, a couple of weeks ago.

We've done this before. We've done this a million times, and we already know what's going to happen, and it's just going to go deeper into a conversation about, has he talked to the boys yet? No, he still hasn't because we're still working things out. That's where it's going to be probably for another full season. Yeah, more than likely, unfortunately. But Adriana kind of sets the stage for later. She's not over the Kiki thing.

She's not over the cake. This, to me, screams defense because you made a fool of yourself at your own thing. And now you're trying to get ahead of it by pointing the finger at Kiki, that this is unresolved, that the problem is not that you were walking around saying I'm not racist. The problem is that Kiki's joke was mean. Yeah. But you don't even know it's a joke. which is now completely overblown by your behavior.

Correct. And also saying that Kiki called you a racist when she didn't. She definitely didn't. We never saw it. Kiki also wouldn't do that from what we've seen on screen. So that right there, you're full of shit and you're trying to rationalize in only a way that Adriana can. And the conversation, the funny part about the conversation that we see in the beauty bar is Kiki and Julia discussing what happened. And immediately Kiki goes, wait, did you come downstairs?

And I'm like, was Kiki actually there the whole time? Did she go downstairs and Julia just kind of like gave up when she walked out to the street? No. She did get in the Amazon truck. That's crazy. How wild is that? A beautiful woman in Miami getting into an Amazon truck at like, let's call it 10 p.m. on a Saturday night. It made me nervous.

It makes me nervous. Yeah, no disrespect to that Amazon driver. Sure. And I'm sure a lot of them are lovely people overall. Just don't get in cars or strangers. She's like he was going straight. Just go straight. You got to move on and then I'll hop back out and then I'll call a car.

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So I was like, okay, that's a different side. so maybe this isn't as cut and dry as I thought it was and between Adriana bringing up the Kiki stuff again and then this, I'm like, okay, I'm interested, I'm intrigued what's going on, but let's get to the foster care event. And first and foremost, Julia's hair choices are just interesting.

All season long. Very interesting hair choices. Yeah, from the Princess Leia look to George Washington to, I don't know, what else she had. I don't know what you call this one. I have no idea. I don't have a comparison for this one. She's outdone herself with this one.

This one is, yeah, it was a very interesting look. But noticeably missing from the event is Adriana. For the reason that she's not there is crazy to me, because she is rehearsing her show for this Shoma Bazaar event. The way that she's treating this event. I know. That's where she lost me complete. Because in a nutshell, I get it.

But, like, in a nutshell, I understand if you already have the band scheduled for rehearsal, You can't move it because it's, you only had a couple hours notice. There's 12 of them. There's 12 people in this band and you have to go do this, show up and do whatever. Fine. I actually fully understand that. And that's where you had me. You completely lost me when you go on to, why won't you just let me live my dream?

We have heard Adriana talk about this being her dream forever. Come to find out what she does later, which is fucking hilarious. But we've seen this before when we went down to Mexico and she performed down in Mexico. We've seen it before when she's performed. performing anywhere. It's always, why don't you guys letting me live my dream? I can buy that if you're on stage in Rio. Not if you're at

Stephanie's bar. What are we doing? I don't, I have no idea. It's not going to get me to feel bad for you. I wouldn't have felt bad regardless, but it would have been an okay excuse if you just simply couldn't move the rehearsal. Yeah, and if you had told Julia that, hey, I'm so sorry, I want to be

there because at the end of the day... And I'm going to try to make it at the end if I can. Sure, because your big thing is like, am I the boy's godfather? not if you don't show up to the fucking event that helped get them adopted. Think past Julia for a second. This is where you're trying to lose me again. It's like, think about the children. It's about them.

And you have to go to this fucking thing about the children. Think about the kids. I just don't, she lost me entirely by not showing up. And again, like you said, could I understand it in a different. It could have been a wash. It could have. That was the best case scenario is it's a wash. And then maybe Julia overreacts and she starts.

piling on, and then we look at Julia and say, why do you care so much? You've been going against her the whole season. Who gives a shit? Don't pile on now. We kind of turn our attention that way. Instead, you talk way too much and say way too much, and now we're understanding why Julia is separating herself from her. It's been a crazy roller coaster ride this whole season between the two of them because we

wanted to believe Adriana so much. Just point blank, it looked like what was happening. She's now favoring Alexia. Is Alexia going to end up? being the godmother, we made a ton of jokes about how there might be two godfathers, why not two godmothers, and we could have Alexei and Adriana battle it out. That would be hilarious. It's neither of them, but it's also fucking hilarious because now we understand.

Julie has been separating herself from Adriana for so long because of the situations that we got to see because of the producers over the years of defending Adriana, and then she just puts her foot in her mouth right away. Now you don't really want to be around Adriana anymore. So, of course, she's not the godmother. And I understand why you don't want to be around Adriana. anymore. And Kiki brings up a great point. She's like, Julia's never missed one of your performances. Not that this, and that's the other thing. And that's what takes me out of it entirely.

Adriana later is like, what, because I missed you. I don't think Julia gave a fuck about the song. Obviously, she wanted to perform. Obviously, it's like her passion. She just was. That was a threatened type of situation, I feel like. What do you mean? Oh, I'm actually the singer. You don't get to sing. Well, she made that very clear later on. But in Julia's mind, she's upset you missed the foster event. She's not really bugged that you missed her singing. That was just a cherry on top. The fact that that's what you're focused on shows you how selfish you are and shows

you how insecure you are, which is, I mean, it's, at the end of the day, it's not like, oh, I'm so mad. It's just, it's sad. Mm-hmm. I feel bad for her. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I do have a question.

Shoot. Because obviously the work that Mark, I'm not going to take away from what they do for the foster care industry and. helping kids get adopted. I'm sure they donate a ton of money. Raise awareness on TV. How the fuck can you be an advocate for foster care and then shit on people that do in vitro fertilization?

Not really sure. That makes zero sense to me. Yeah, that does make zero sense. I thought your question was going to be funny. No, it's not. Like, I understand, I understand you could take the route of. There's so many kids that need to be adopted, but different strokes for different folks.

I just don't understand how you can be so steadfast and be an advocate for one thing that has to do with children. Yeah. Then another thing that has to do with children and helping mothers be mothers. Yeah. You're going to go on Twitter and say some obnoxious, horrible shit about it. Yeah. As a strong advocate of to each their own, I don't think like that, so I have no idea.

I just, I think it's pretty fucking stupid. But Julius sings, I don't know if it's good or not. People seem to enjoy it. I do think this is true. And I really believe this to be true. And this is not true for everybody. This is not like, I'm not. not sitting here giving excuses for Ashley Darby.

I do think that it sounds worse on TV than it does in person. Probably. That I believe. Because even when Adriana is singing, I'm like, oof, but everyone there is like vibing. This group for the amount of times that they get into random shit and TIFs and all over the place, I do think they are very supportive of one another. They are very, it's nice. And you have a very good example of that at the end of this episode when Adriana gets off the stage and everybody's like, wow, that was so great. And very much so was not.

This is just a little different to crack Because it's classical music So I can't really tell I think it was good I'm leaning towards the side of The opera is showcasing You know their singers Like maybe don't make this about you

Like give a speech That's what I thought Don't sing with them But it is her event too kind of It sounded like she may have been off Key That's right or no But everybody loved it

So I don't know I'm just gonna excuse myself In the situation Yeah I think that's the best move She seemed to move people there So, like, you know what? That's good enough. Whatever.

Let's go to the showmo event. What do you say? Anyway. What a quick episode. They really, like, that's the thing, dude. It's like, for a finale, there's really not a lot to, like, I look back. I usually have anywhere from six to ten pages of notes. I have like four.

Five or, yeah, four or five. I can't count. I think that what ended up happening is we kind of see that everybody's pretty much squashed whatever beef they've had all season. And then the Adrian stuff piles on. And it's almost like what you see. said where everybody kind of just came together because Adriana is so out there that they're not even bothering anymore because they've already squashed all of their beefs. What's the point of doing this?

Like, she's fucking annoying. Like, all right. Can we just get this over with? We have to deal with her. I don't want to deal with you. We sort of just like got to a point towards the end of the season where we just sprinted to the finish line. Yeah.

Everybody's already kind of checked out because we're looking at Adriana. The last thing that we have to do to finally figure out is Julia and Adriana and we do it. but yeah nobody else really has the energy to do anything we just figured out yeah why they're 17 episodes yeah thing go right there anyway I will speak for everybody when I say nobody wants a shredded Santa no okay don't don't do that where it's like oh it sucks he's fat I hate that too because if you go to like a beach boardwalk or something like one of those boutique stores that has like a sexy Santa shirt no Santa supposedly you know what hefty Santa is sexy What about that?

He is. Yeah, leave poor Santa alone saying you should have abs. Santa is a jolly old man with a big old belly. By the way, that lap is not going to be comfy to sit on. You want to sit in some bony-ass, mussely lap? No, you want to sit on those soft thighs. Yeah, he's been having a lot of milk and cookies, and they go right to his thighs at his tummy. He's like a sofa.

He's a sofa. That's what Santa, Santa, is a very old sofa. Yep, damn right. Anyway, Kiki and Larest arrive, which that has been a lovely journey this season. And I know, again, we always mention, like, Obviously, you can have your thoughts and feelings about everything. But at the same time, Kiki's cool. So we're cool.

And so watching them reunite, watching him be proud of it. You can really see. Like, he's very proud of her. You know, like you see his face. And it could have easily started as a, I'm going to show him that I made something of myself. Yeah. And I think it did probably start there if I had to guess. But by the end of the season, just based on evolution and how we've watched this unfold,

it's very lovely. It is. Because it looks like he's very proud of her. He was taking pictures with his phone last week at that. jet with all of her baggage and all the stuff that she was marketing he was proud last week he's even proud her this week yeah it's really cool to see it's a little awkward when stephanie's like god he did such a great job with kiki i was like eh kiki did a great job on her own yeah it's not give him the credit for how well she turned out she did this in spite of him probably and then

reunited with him so i know what she was doing just being nice but i really love is kiki just a little one-off sentence talking about how he does love the lady he's going to be a big flirt every dad of a housewife is a big flirt it is crazy then that's when I wonder I'm not saying anything negative about I don't know the rest we haven't seen enough being creepy or anything like that that's where I'm curious if they're like fuck I got to get ahead of this my dad's kind of a creep and I'm just going to say oh he's flirty before he does some creepy shit like Nicole and with her dad RIP right like he was all over the place but they all loved them and again this this group of women handles it very well

he's a lovable character he was a very lovable character he was a very lovable character. And he was also married to a woman that was younger than Nicole. And actually, she was pregnant. Look, I get there's something charming about that man. There is something charming about that man. But even like Gene the Machine, we've got him. He loves the ladies. He had a sexy Marilyn Monroe singing happy birthday to him. Uh, what's the other? There's another one that I'm missing. It's a big one that I can't really, oh, Michael Darby. He was a creep. Oh, Jesus. He's a dad. Yeah, I guess, I guess that counts. That's a good point. Well, whoa, I'm old enough to be at dad. So, no, I bet, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know.

out of the houseway. Yeah, absolutely. But I like the Kiki, you just pulls Adriana aside to try to get ahead of things. You know, good move. We always respect that move. Sits her down and says,

hey, look, let me apologize for the cake. But what this scene did for me, the cake was shady. Yeah. She was not over everything that Adriana had done. And the cake was a shot at her because of how she finishes this interaction because they're cool.

It's like, look, sorry for the cake. Misunderstanding. Adriana's like, ah, you know what? It's all good. Don't worry about it. She's like, okay, great. And then Adriana apologizes. And then we end it with, look, you are one of the most beautiful women for your age.

Uh-huh. Did she, yeah, was it a little burn, or was she just kind of talking? Nope. I think it was a little burn. Because that does it very well. And when you start to add them up where we're questioning, it's like, oh, it's Kiki. She's so nice. But it's like, you're moving well.

Like you're hiding behind a smokescreen ever so slightly because you are a nice person. but every time you know you are so you can kind of like you can lean on that where it's like no I love everybody so you take teeny shots which I loved loved it and Adriana's like by the way this scene also produced another part of a scene from last week that we didn't see which was let me have my black friend Carol explain to you why I'm not racist we didn't see that last week that makes it so much worse she didn't say it was already so bad She didn't say that. It was worse.

She said, let my black friend explain to my black friend. She doubled. Yeah, she did. Yeah. Just unbelievable. I didn't think it could get any worse. I didn't either. It did get worse.

It got worse. But the other part of this is, and we've seen this, I can't even count. Adriana just wants people to apologize to her. If she feels slighted, as soon as you start to apologize, she will immediately move on and she will be happy about it. And yeah, she goes to her confessional and says, I've got a huge. performance later. I just can't be bothered by this. That's not true. If somebody takes the time to pull you aside, you get so excited that you get a little screen time, that you get a little one-on-one time, maybe a little compassion, and that's enough for you. That is all you ever want,

and that's part of it, like, with you always say, it's just sad. Yeah. Watching her do certain things, it's very sad. She just wants some sort of human contact. She friends. And yeah, obviously she has friends, and then she runs them into the dirt because she just constantly complains other people the entire time and she's really hard to defend for sure but in these moments it's so obvious it's like oh my god you just want some love you just sucks some sympathy some emotion and you really get into the psyche of adriana she at this stage in her life because of how she's been acting for a long time now and people are starting to write her off they're getting tired of her shit the only play that she has left is to try to make you feel bad

Sympathy, yeah. So, like, that's all she's got. So she's trying to do it to everybody. God, we can even, like, make a whole formula out of this, too, because if she doesn't get the sympathy soon enough, then she blows up. And says some weird shit. And it almost happened. It almost overlapped last week. If Kiki had just gotten there a couple minutes earlier before she found out that Kiki was the one who did the cake, she would have accepted her apology immediately. Oh, it's okay. I know you were just trying to be funny. Oh, it's all right. But, like, give me a compliment. Okay, you're one of the most pretty women that I know of your age.

Okay, that was a little shady, but I'll accept the compliment. Move on, and we wouldn't have gotten any of that. But because it didn't overlap perfectly, she blows up. And it happens every year. And she also had the support of Carol to lean on her, feeling bad for her, trying to defend her. She wants that. So she felt emboldened to go after Keating. So you can immediately put the rest that she just does this with the group.

And the cast, she does it with everybody. This is a personality trade and not a very good one. Yeah. And it's like, it's nice, you know, because Adrian's like, nothing's going to get me irritate him in the Christmas spirit. 30 minutes later. And we rushed to a scene, which I'm actually kind of glad we did. And it's Kiki, Marisol, and Adriana, and they bring up the missing of the opera foster event.

This is where she completely, I mean, I was pretty much out. Gone, yeah. This is, now she's irrelevant. She goes into, you know, I didn't know. I didn't know she was singing, not the point. And what, she doesn't want me to live my lifelong dream. It's like she never said that either. Your lifelong dream is, I'm not being mean,

but your lifelong dream is not to sing at a showma event. Like, you're singing for your friend because you're on the same cast. And it's just a Christmas party. We watched Asher singing at a Christmas party. I don't think that was his lifelong dream. No. His lifelong dream is to be on the stage and sell out concerts. And I hope he does it someday.

And be a stay-at-home dad. And be a stay-at-home dad, for the love of God, Diana Jenkins. I hope you're still with that guy. but I will not check in on your life. I really want to know if they're still together. That was such a funny. No, Adriana, like we've seen you every season do this and you always say this is your dream.

Enough. We get it. If you're also looking at it from a chart, it's like, okay, Miami, Faya, whatever, Emilio Estefan, on stage in Rio, Shoma event. Shoma event about loving your dog. Alexia had the best Reefon.

on that, too. You sing this at home to your dog. Yes. Anybody who has a dog sings to their dog. You say random stuff and a sing-songy tune. Maybe you make up a song. I've done it a bunch of times. That's what happens.

But you don't go on stage and start singing about it. Did you even write this or are you just doing this off the top of your head? This is a private song. Yeah. You had a slide show. Yeah. But again, because the wheels are turning, I'm like, is this a sympathy pole? Are you singing this song so people go, wow, all she has is her dog?

No, I really don't know because I can't really crack into the psyche that is Adriana to that extent. We can read a lot of the surface level stuff, but once you start getting in deep, I don't know if I can get back out, so I don't want to do it. No, it's not worth it. Tie a rope to me and send me in and promise me that you'll pull me out and I'll try. I think the rope will rip. Yeah. You get sucked in, like the poltergeist. Yeah, I would just disappear.

And then you'd be talking me through the TV, and I don't want that. No. No, that wouldn't be fun at all for me. Now, before the performance, she loses me further, which is hard because I was completely out. They're waiting, right? And Stephanie, let's not get it twisted. She did this as a favor. This is not her being like, I need Adriana to sing at my event.

She's like, you know what, you sing. Why don't you get up there and do it for me? That'd be great. She's standing outside, acting as though she's about to come through the floor of a stage at a Bieber concert. This is not that big of a fucking deal. I need everybody away from the stage. I need people away from the drummers. The fuck away from the piano.

Like, yeah, away from the piano? Like, what are we doing? I don't know. Go on stage and sing the goddamn song. Go up there and say, hey, guys, I'm Adriana. Thank you, Stephanie, for having me. It's also hilarious that she wanted some sort of dramatic entrance when she's been there for two hours. They've seen you.

You've been mingling with all of these people. And you're in the same dress that you were already wearing. Not a big reveal, dude. I don't know. It's, again, just simply sad. And she starts singing. And again, it's your friend's Christmas party, dude. The vibes are good because this group is supportive.

Yeah. Right, everyone's viving out. They're doing their best. Like, I love my dog. Crushed whatever vibe. Everyone stopped and was just like, what the fuck is this? I just pictured me and you there in the back, like, woof, no pun intended.

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stories. Good morning night fail with new episodes every other Thursday. Get it wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, even there. Even Kiki in the confessional, this adds to the she was throwing she, she'd say, oh, have the mighty have fallen. I'm like, damn, get her. But

Julia and Adriana, they have a conversation. Julia takes her to the side. I think it's very important to note the demeanor. She's extremely calm. She's very level-headed. She wants to actually have a conversation. And like, dude, what's going on?

Is this reparable, repairable, whatever? I don't know, but let's have a conversation. Adriana wants nothing to do with it. She's like, hey, I'm really happy for you. And I was like, I believe that. I do believe that. She asked Adriana, do you believe that? She's like, well, I don't really know, you know,

because ever since you got close to Alexia and Marisol, and she's like, well, why didn't she come to the event? I had 12 band members. What, you want me to live my dream? You want me to let go of my dream to come to your event. event, you're competing with me because I missed your song. Again, you're missing the point of why she wanted you there. It's for the boys. It's not for her song. She got to sing

because it was an event for her boys. You're now trying to say that instead of the friendship falling apart because of Alexia and Marisol entering the picture, now the friendship's falling apart because she's competing with you in the singing world. I don't understand that, but going back to, you know, sane levels of thinking. I'll try. We at least get a good explanation from Alexia talking about this whole thing and how we've been viewing it wrong the whole time. Completely, and we'll admit that. Completely wrong.

She was breaking away from Adriana so that she could get closer to the girls in the group, and she is admittedly closer. Yeah, she had the thing with Gertie in the beginning of the season, but that seems to have just kind of going away, and they're not really friends necessarily. They're cordial, and that's fine. They're cordial enough, which is perfect for the show. But she wanted to be able to have some sort of connection with everybody else,

and once she broke away from Adriana, they accepted her. because she wasn't defending crazy anymore. Exactly. And Alexia put it that way and it's like, oh, fuck. I did the same thing. We completely just. And Alexia being the one to say it too and not even in a, thank God she got away from Adriana because she's so much better with us.

Like she wasn't territorial about it. She was just stating facts and it makes so much more sense. And it's gone a whole season of us thinking, God damn, Adriana's so right to, I'm on the Alexia's team now. Who would have thought? I had the same reaction. I was like, oh, duh. I felt like such a dumbass.

I was like, of course that's what's going on. I'm an idiot. I put way, way too much faith in Adriana. Then I even wrote my book during the scene, and Adriana's back. Because this is what we're used to. But now, because it's been pent up for an entire season, it's like... Everything. Time a thousand.

Everything that we've been talking about all season just starts coming out at once. In five minutes, which is not a great look at all. And Julia's really trying. And she's like, I texted you. You didn't text me back. I was rehearsing. You can answer a text back, especially the next morning

to say, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I missed the event. Tell the boys I love them. This is not the time to say, am I the godmother? Fuck no. Even if you were in the running,

you have removed yourself from the conversation. It's not like Julia announced a godmother. I could understand if she had announced that Alexia was the godmother. Or Marisol.

Or Marisol. Or somebody random. Sure. Fine. I get it if your feelings are hurt because you weren't even considered and she didn't have a conversation with you.

somewhat understand that, but obviously based on your behavior in the past, and I don't really even think that Julia owes that to you, but not right now. Why in the world, and this was just like word vomit? It was all the shit that she was thinking about all season. She finally has the opportunity to grandstand, I guess. She's got the high from performing, and it falls so flat. Julia doesn't even react. She's like, of course, this is what you're going to do right now.

It was a brutal look, dude. It made no sense. Nothing tracked. She completely missed the point of what Julie. was trying to say, Julia does a phenomenal job of staying level-headed. She doesn't bite. She just kind of lets, and it's smart. All you have to do is let Adriana sink her own ship.

She will bury herself, and that's what she did. She stepped back and was like, all right, go. And it takes such a left turn. She's like, you are only here because of me and you wouldn't be anything without me and blah, blah, blah. I was like, that's the route we're going? Yep. Because why? She's singing or because she has more friends in the group now than you?

I think it just shows how completely out of the time. touch she is. She still thinks that this is like season two. Yeah, I guess. Or the hiatus when she was still a mainstay and she was the center. That's what she still thinks is going on. She still thinks it's her show which is crazy because there are obviously moving pieces. People have gone.

People have come back in. But even the people that have left, they weren't close to you. People that are back in are not close to you. The people who have been there the whole time don't care about you. And she's so out of touch. She's the odd man out. She still thinks that this is her group and it's never been. Maybe it was before the

hiatus. Maybe it was season one. You were part of it and you were an integral piece. You're so far out right now. And you don't even see that. Because she refused to try and integrate into the group. Like you refused to try to cool it with Marisol and Alexia. You were so steadfast on wanting to be friends with them. You did some shady shit. Talk some shit behind their back. They don't want to be friends with you. You're always mean to people. This is your comeuppins. And then when Julie, this was the perfect sign-off for Julia because she goes to her confessional and after she explains what's going on, I'm like, I completely get it. She's like, all you guys see is her being my bestie on camera.

What you don't see is behind closed doors, the manipulation, the guilt trips, all of these things to try to make me feel bad for the choices I'm making, isolation from the rest of the group. I don't have any other friends of her friends with her. I'm like, totally fair. Those two confessionals between Alexia and Julia paint the perfect picture of exactly what's going on. Somehow we missed it. I don't know.

We were just giving sympathy probably. Exactly. We were giving Adriana sympathy because she did a good job of conveying that to us. And it worked. It did. Everything just kind of clicked into place. It's like, oh, fuck. Yeah, we're stupid.

Oh, all right, yeah. Yep. We didn't want to believe it, but what do you say to that? Nothing. It's just so obvious. I felt the same exact way. I was like, wow, man. we were we were just wrong and we'll admit it but the episode ends with all of the ladies together

and kiki brings up the wretched ratchet thing so apparently what had happened as and like i see i don't it's not like i see both sides but i don't think this is like the smoking gun that marisol said it was and i'm curious to get your take on it because marisal's like i gave her wretched because she didn't know what to do she was trying to explain what she was saying and like she did mean ratchet and then i threw that out there. I'm like, oh, it's a language barrier thing. Like, say ratchet or wretched instead of that. So she did say ratchet and everyone piles in. They're starting to yell at her. I guess what had happened was when this whole thing went down

and she said, say wretched instead, and then leave me alone for two years. Yep. Extortion. She extorted her, but immediately after it. It's soft extortion. I like that move. It's a lowercase e extortion. Yeah. And she went to lunch and had brought up the fact that, Marisol had run a PR company, so she's really good at digging up dirt and moving behind the scenes. She said that to Stephanie, and she's using her powers for evil and blah, blah, blah, so immediately after they had been cool, she goes to talk shit about her, Marisol finds out because Stephanie tells her, and everything falls in bar. Stephanie told Larsa and Larsa told Marisol. Wisp her down the lane. Yeah, it's a good whisper down the lane, but I, I mean, yeah, it's not necessarily a smoking gum because I still don't think that Adriana knew what Ratchett meant, and I don't think that she did it in a racist way.

she meant to say Ratchet, but I don't think she knew what Ratchet meant. Correct. I think that she had just heard it somewhere and thought that it was a good word to use in this situation. Used it. Realized very quickly that that's not the word that you should be using. Kind of spiraled a little bit. Marisol reached out. Obviously, she had ulterior motives, but I get where Marisol's coming from because we see this every year. It's been back on the show, or it's been back on our screens for what, four seasons now? Every season, Adriana has it out for Marisol and goes after her. And Marisol doesn't really actively go after Adriana. She's got to be fucking sick and tired of it. So she gives

her this. Hey, people are going to keep piling on. Just say it was a language barrier. Say you meant wretched. All we see, because we didn't see this scene, was Adriana saying, I meant wretched. And we're like, that's a fucking weird word to use, but I could see you're doing it because you're a weird

person. Makes a ton of sense. She doesn't tell anybody that she got it from someone else. Marisol has it. Hey, this is what you use. I told you to leave me alone for two years. You immediately go and try to stir shit up with Stephanie. Now, Stephanie did go to Adriana and say, what do you think about Marisol? And she told her, but she didn't have to add in all the extra things. And this is, again, we saw this before. Adriana is just trying to get people on her side. Correct. She thinks that Marisol's the

devil. And she just wants to exercise her, not extort her. Exercise her from the group. And if she can do that by means of other people, she's going to take that chance every single time. But you had a weird contract. I don't know what that was. signed in, but you had a weird contract with Marisol, you're supposed to leave her alone for two years, which two seasons will give it that. It was never going to last, but obviously as soon as it happens, Marisol is allowed to stand up and say, you didn't even have that word. You meant Ratchet. Explain yourself out of this one. Your entire argument for everything goes out the window even more because your first response is to make old jokes to Marisol. It's like you don't get to do

that. You spend an entire season complaining about people calling you old, feeling old saying they're ages, this. It's just like a, it makes me feel better to call you old because other people are called, but nobody's calling you old. No. And you wouldn't have been in this situation if you weren't mean to Kiki in the first place. Right. And let's not forget the first old comment thrown out there was you on the boat saying old knobby knees. And now this just proves to me that it doesn't actually upset you that much. You're just using it to try to gain sympathy from people because you know it's working. Yep. But the fact that you're so quick to throw it out there tells me it's not that big of a deal to you. Correct. So in one episode,

this is actually it's somewhat impressive it is really impressive yeah now i kind of understand why it was it was i think it was supposed to be two episodes just based on the amount of events we had four events in one go that's why yeah episode it was crazy we didn't get like a a one-on-one scene here or there or whatever it was just event event event event big final scene for everybody yep i think it was supposed to be two episodes but it was concise it was and i think she spiraled so hard and completely erased 16 episodes of work that she had done. And because of her being that common enemy of everybody now, I think everyone else is like, we're good.

They're either indifferent. So somebody like Gertie, Stephanie might be able to look over and be like, all right, I don't really care what you're doing. Or now they can look at the camera and just do like a Jim Halpert and be like, this is what I'm fucking dealing with. This is what we're doing. It was a good finale. It wasn't great.

No, it wasn't great. It was underwhelming. as we said in the beginning of the episode, it was just more fascinating. This was a fascinating episode. And the downfall of Adriana happening so fast as something only she could pull off so well.

And we get the highlights, you know, what people are doing now. It's nothing crazy. We already talked about Alexia. Kiki's buying a condo at Shoma. So free business there. Nice work. Stephanie.

Adriana and Julia are not speaking. Vicka meant the boys. Emma did not meet the boys. Larsa. is finishing up her house. It does look great. Nice job. Just get rid of that fucking gummy bear.

Dave, another NBA star. Jeff Kobe? Star. Yeah. So she's freezing her eggs. What else do we got? I thought the hairless Egyptian cat line was funny.

And Gertie took it. Well, my favorite highlight is that Lisa Jody started a divorce app. It's incredible. It sounds like... It's called splitting. I think it's 100% a trauma response from Jody. Like, I need a way to handle this better.

And Elise is like, that's a good idea. I would love to see, like, I guarantee you they're going to make some sort of infomercial or... It's going to be like a social media type of ad, and it'll probably pop off now that the season's over. I really hope so. I can't wait to see that. Is it called Splitville or something? I think it's just splitting. I don't know.

It'll be Jody sitting in a table saying, are you tired of dealing with your current girlfriend's divorce while she's going through it? I've got the app for you. If you're currently going through a divorce, you get one month free. Use code bros at checkout. But Stephanie has talked to one of her sisters, not both. Marisol and Alexia, have that sit down we talked about. And obviously, they're still tight. Even in this scene, they were going to be tight.

But Todd's out of the picture for now. Won't be forever. And that's a wrap on Miami. Mm-hmm. A little worried about the reunion. I think that there's enough to talk about, but I'm worried about Adriana completely commandeering it. But I think that she usually does.

I think Andy, especially if she is on the outs, he will probably try to reel it in pretty hard or to cut some scenes. We already saw the scene for the start of the reunion. And apparently Adriana's got a gift for Julia in a box. It's going to be some note or a song or something we don't need. Like the song about or two Marisol's liver, the poem, I thought that was funny. Like we're past that point. You know, anything she does now, we're like, let's just move on.

We don't need to do this, but let's get some questions. We don't have a question. Oh, right. But I will miss this from my screen. I will look forward to next season. I'm very interested. This is going to be an interesting off season if that's all coming out. I definitely don't think we need to get rid of Kiki and Gertie.

I don't think, yeah, I don't really think so at all. If you get rid of Adriana and just keep everybody else, I think it's fine. I think you've got a good product. Maybe you have somebody else as a friend of. I mean, they sort of teased throughout the season different friends of. Yeah, I thought so, too. Maybe they had a model friend at the beginning. I believe Stephanie had a friend.

Larson has a friend. Everybody seems to have like a friend, and obviously everybody's always pining to bring their friends on. So you can add somebody in as a friend of. You're not really losing anything if Adriana goes. Right. Correct. Oh, Julia also on the outs.

Sorry, I forgot that one. I could see that based on her current behavior. Yeah, which Andy's probably not thrilled about. So could look a lot different next year. Could look exactly the same minus Adriana. Either way, the only thing. I'm definitely sold on as Adriana probably is not coming back. There's no reason. No reason to bring her back. But that's all I got. You got anything else?

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