Bros & Shows - Julia Drops a BOMB at the Reunion (RHOM Reunion)

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

What's up Bros? The first part of the reunion was ho hum, we certainly enjoyed it but not a lot happened. Until... In the beginning of the episode we talk about Stephanie's first season, Alexia has finally moved on from Todd (for now) and things seem ok amongst most of the group. Guerdy clearly has some things she would like to address with the group and we're not sure where the crew goes from here. The episode ends with Julia letting slip that her and Adrianna had a thing in the Hamptons and possibly at the Versace mansion as well, alluding to that being the REAL reason for the issues between the two of them... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, since the soundbox has moved, I can finally do this. Oh, no, we're on stream. Oh, work. No, it just came through. I heard it. Yeah. Oh, I didn't. Yay.

Okay, cool. Awesome. Usually, I don't even hear it when we're on stream yard. So that's a little treat for everybody for this reunion. Hopefully, I didn't hear it. So 50-50. Hey, look, if no one else heard it, I heard it. That's enough for me because that got me out.

Brows and shows, bros and shows. I got to have me now, Bros and Shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only reunion Magoonian. What's up, dude? The quick check of the clock to see what time it is

so that you can get it right, which it is the funniest thing, and I know you don't find it that funny, but I hope that other people find it funny. These, like, our listeners are listening at various times on various days. And I love your commitment to making sure you have it right. After 4.30, it becomes evening. Yep.

I'm waiting for some. No, five. Five o'clock is it. Is it five? Yeah. Yeah, that it's afternoon. You're right. So it's great.

It's just so funny. And just watching you in real time, just glance at the clock real quick. So that you have it right because it really is important to you. It's one of my tips, bro. I can't help it. Like, we've restarted episodes before because I got it wrong. That's true.

That's not true. That is not true. That happened two times. Yeah, I did. Hold on. And I did redid it. I didn't tell you that was why.

But we've restarted a couple times because of that. I just didn't make it known to the world. Are you okay? I missed. Ah, there we go. I'm good. Anyway,

Miami Reunion, part one. And as far as reunions go, like this one is pretty ho-hum. You know, it's the first episode, so I'm not getting too distressed or anything. It was fine. Like, I enjoyed it. It actually went pretty quick.

I remember checking the time on it. I was like, oh, shit. It did. Yeah. I knew that something was going to pop off. And the funny thing is I had. I didn't know that was going to pop off. No, I didn't know.

Weirdly enough, I actually kind of put it together towards the end because I don't, I don't even know what it was. It was just like a weird intuition that I had watching back when they started to play back a lot of the scenes. And we talked about this. at like full extent about what could possibly be going on with Julia and Adriana

and for whatever reason I felt that there was something different this time out of you. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'll believe you. It was all,

it was all, I'm basing it fully on like facial expressions and weird recognition and the way that they were talking. The way that Adriana was cutting off Julia while she was talking was different from before. It was bizarre and there was a weird tension out there. I actually thought,

Now, to be fair, I didn't hone in on exactly what it was right away. I gave it a couple options. But I'm like, something weird must have happened where these two, they had a weird falling out somewhere in there and we're missing a piece somewhere. So I just kind of proposed an idea to myself. That was an option. The other option was that Adriana got super sloppy drunk. Something along those lines.

I'm like, there must have been something going on between these two that's something that happened off camera that we didn't get to see. And there was. So that was kind of cool. But otherwise, I agree with you. It was pretty good. I have some questions about, one, the seating arrangement doesn't make a ton of sense. I think that's post-season fallouts clearly happened.

That's where the seating chart came from. I'll hold my judgment until the end, I guess, because I don't really see it right now. It seems like Alexi and Stephanie are being incredibly nice to each other. Heads of the couch don't make sense yet. Maybe they will. That's really what I'm honing it on. The rest of it I don't really care about. With Miami, you can kind of put people wherever the hell they want to go.

Adriana is always going to be on the end somewhere because Andy hates Adriana. But the rest of it is ho-hum. It's more just kind of zero-inning on the first two. And you assume that the first two have the biggest beef of the season and that's what we're going to talk about. Maybe they do. Maybe some more shit popped off or maybe Stephanie said some more things about Todd and that's going to be an issue. But all in all, it was fine. I had no problem for it.

Yeah, fine, exactly. And I think what we're seeing again, my theory is the postseason fallout. And that also makes sense because of the opposite effect, where Todd sucks and Alexia finally acknowledges the Todd sucks. So again, they put them at the head of the couches because, yes, the Todd thing, the Alexia and Stephanie drama was palpable, but then Todd is now an asshole again. So now they're cool. So I think maybe that they're like, I imagine there's a couple of surprises as they got closer to the reunion. and then they're like, well, we already put the seating chart out. We're already, ready.

Who cares? Let's just put them on this side. What, blah, blah, blah. But I love that we start out the reunion with a little Todd Bash Sesh. I'm always down for a Todd hazing. And, like, that's what we get. Clearly, they're not together anymore. Alexia lays it all out there.

Will this hold? Probably not. But for the time being, Todd's out of the picture. Marisol's happy. Even Stephanie's happy about it because she's kind of vindicated in what she said. But I love that we're just going around the room. Like, yeah, Todd sucks because of this. And he also sucks because of.

that and we're just going to keep saying mean things about Todd because he deserves all of it. And the best part about it is he no longer has any kind of platform to defend it other than his videos on Instagram, which nobody's watching. It is really funny though. Anytime they show clips of his videos on Instagram, I get a good chuckle out of them. I think they're funny hilarious. They are so funny. And it's not for the reasons that he wants me to be laughing at those videos. I'm laughing because he's just a complete dick nozzle. That's a great word. But at the end of the day. Yes, Stephanie gets vindicated. And Alexia, big of Alexia, which we, it depends. I want to say we don't get to see Alexia actually admit something, but she does. It just depends on what state of mind she's in. And I think if we had to weigh the options of what we talked about pre-reunion, which was, I expect Alexia, at least this was my opinion, I expected her to walk in there and say, well, you know, Todd and I are still working it out. We just spent last weekend in New York together. He's actually in New York this weekend. Instead, we got a full. Todd Bash Sesh, like you said, I prefer this.

This is the Alexia that I love because she's admitting to different things. She's not just sweeping things under the rug. She's allowing people to get their hate out on Todd and laughing along with the crew. And that's what I want. At the end of the day, I do want everybody to pretty much be friends. The perfect housewife cast is a group of friends, which this is going to lead me into something else. But it's a group of friends. They all pretty much get along.

And yeah, there's going to be fights here and there or whatever. And then they're going to come back together. But that's what makes it the best is when they're so. intertwined with each other's lives and then something pops off and then it's actual drama. It's not just bullshit like surface level stuff, which is going to happen, but we need some deep drama and we also need some deep resolutions. So if they're all friends and they're all allowed to just kind of bash on Todd, I'm good. I'm here for it.

Yeah. And I think that's again what makes this cast stand out above so many other Houseway franchises is that is the formula. You know, I imagine that there's a world in which Gertie and Julie are able to make amends. Adriana's future on the show, it was so interesting. We put out that episode last week, and you guys know us, like, if we have a difference of opinion after, we could watch an entire season, like we did this season, 16 episodes, we were Team Adriana.

It took one episode. I'm like, oh, some people question that, which is funny. They're like, oh, you guys don't see Marisol stirring the pot. I was like, yeah, we do. But at the same time, when Julius says, like, she's behind the scenes, guilt tripping her and all these different things, her being Adriana, we believe that. So we change our opinion. We're like, this makes more sense to us now.

We're logic-based. We try our best. And if we're wrong about that, we'll cop to it as well. But with this cast, that's why they work so well. We see resolution. We see fights. There's never a bridge too far. It seems like there's obviously some tension, as we're about to get into with Gertie and

Julia. And that's a really interesting one because I'm not on Julius team by any means. I still am team Gertie through and through. But I do see both sides, not Julius side, but when Marisol and everyone, and everyone else starts talking initially, I'm like, well, that's not the same thing. But the more they talk and the more examples they give, I'm like, okay, I mean, that's kind of making sense to me that these reactions have

happened in the past. We get the actual video footage after Gertie, unfortunately, says, roll the tape, honey, and we roll the tape with the ice bucket throw. She bails completely. You didn't depend anybody. Yeah, she bails completely. She did, I do think that a lot of the rolling of the tape, so to speak, did more harm to Gertie than what she thought was going to happen.

I think that she thought she was going to be vindicated or people were going to be on her side. And look, I'll preface it by saying, I really like Gertie. I think she's good. And I think she's a good person. And I think she's fairly entertaining. I'm not fully convinced that Gertie's a great housewife.

And it's not really, I think she can get there. But her biggest holdback right now is that she's not really friends with the rest of the crew. And the one thing that stood out to me, it's not, you know, for lack of trying necessarily, but it does seem like, I think it was actually Larsa that said it in the one cutaway. You put all your eggs in one basket with Nicole. You guys are great friends. We saw that scene with her and Nicole. It made both of us say, we need Nicole back to help Gertie.

And that was when Gertie was in a bad situation where she needed support. And I do think she needs friends, but I think she also needs to make friends. And that's the one thing that is a huge difference between her and Julia is that Julia spent all off season getting closer to Marisol and Alexia. you do need to do something like that you can't just rest on your laurels of yeah we're on the same show yeah we're going to be at the same events they do like me but they don't really like me because i am loud and boisterous but that's just my personality so they can get with it or go home and i think that at some point you do need to bridge that gap and become friends with other people you can't be just nicole's friend because if something happens with you and julia like we saw this season you're out

there's no other connection there and it sucks because again i really like gertie but she needs to be able to take another step to be a good housewife and I don't think she's quite there yet. So I think that that's like kind of a major sticking point for me. I don't know if you agree with that because I know you love Gertie. I don't think it's bad house wifery, so to speak. I think this season in particular. There's two of the things by the way. We, we talk about that house library all the time. Yeah, 100%. And I know you're not saying that. Like she obviously has a spot in the show. She's obviously a pivotal part of this show. I think what it is honestly is Gertie's too real and not in a negative way. Like she.

He is approaching these friendships as you or I would in the real world. Like, no, I'm not going to fucking bend the knee and say it's okay because she did a list of things that pissed me off. And I'm not cool. By all means, that makes sense to me. Of course, you're not cool with her. You shouldn't gloss it over because Andy Cohen saying, you guys are good, right? That's not real life. But when we're on a show and you do need support to move forward in a cast, like that goes to your point.

But you're right. Like, you need to have some kind of backup here. Dr. Nicole's no longer here. You're losing friends by the day on the show and the cast. If that's what you want to do and you want to stand on your laurels, as you said, that's fine. I get that 100%. Be who you are.

Stand by your beliefs and go for it. But if you're playing the housewife game, it doesn't land quite the same way. So it's almost like she's too real right now, which is not a problem if that's what she wants to do. But it makes it be okay with standing up against the entire group by yourself. And I don't think it really is. Well, it's not even that she's not capable. it's like it just gets hard because we as an audience are going to watch scene after scene of one on five and it's like dude this is tough to watch to even go as far as and I don't

think Alexia in this scene does not really apologize it's disingenuous it's disingenuous but for Alexia and this is where it's not equal level playing field it's not equal footing for every one of the housewives I mean we've seen Larsa for years just ignore things and move on and she seems to be fine with everybody. But obviously for other people, they do have to make an effort. Alexia, this is actually Alexia making an effort by at least saying, by the way, I do see where you're coming from and I rewatched it. Look, it's Steele's wife.

There's Deb. Hey, she's working. What a loser on a Friday. No, she was going for a stroll with the little one. Okay. Well, that works then. But yeah, with this with Alexia, her acknowledging that she should have done something different. during the water toss after watching it back is about as good of an apology as you're going

to get. We just watched her finally comp to the fact that that narcissus party was for Todd. And it was a huge event because that is the biggest thing that she's done all year as far as just acknowledging, hey, you were right, Stephanie. Massive, massive appeal. She's not going to do it twice. She's not going to say, I'm really sorry for not stepping up. She's just going to say after watching it, I do feel differently. Gertie needs to just take that and say, I appreciate you saying that and at least having the retrospect to understand the position that I was in and try to create a communication where then you might have Alexia on your side instead it turns immediately into by the way that wasn't an apology it's you have to take what they're giving you

you can't just always stand that ground it's just a tough position to be in yeah and you know from where I see it it's like you don't have to you know it's more do you want to play the game or not and she doesn't and like that's something I actually admire about Gertie it's It's like, I'm not going to fuck around. It's such a layered thing because in what she's doing, I agree with it. I'm like, yeah, that's a bullshit apology. Julia's is a bullshit apology. She's just trying to sweep it under the rug and not take accountability for the things she's done.

No, it's not the same as Adriana throwing a glass in the general direction of a group of people because that didn't come anywhere near Larsa, but Larsa wants to chime in because she's not being heard right now. So it's different. And yes, after we watched the water toss, we then watched you get reprimanded by the entire. group weirdly as though you were the problem that was problematic there's a lot of shitty things that occurred to gertie and i believe that and i stand by that and she has every right to stand her ground and say fuck this i'm not giving in you guys are all full of shit absolutely gertie but to your point again it makes it tough because you're not playing the game on the show and if that's what you want to do i support it but it's going to make it tougher from just a storyline standpoint moving forward

with the group because now where do you go you know and i don't think that it means she needs to bend the knee it's just there there's this weird middle ground that it's like okay so how do we move forward now you have to pick and choose your battles first and you also have to pick and choose your apologies i mean that's really all it comes down to if you want to just try to dumb it down to the simplest of terms that's all you have to do and it's really funny too because the thought that crosses my mind that i'm a little fucked up obviously but you and i would be great housewives we have watched a lot of like if you ever wanted to do like a white if you ever wanted to do like a white chicks thing and we could just infiltrate and just go into one of these groups and just become housewives

that would be great the funny flip side of that is are we crossing into like slayed territory probably that's where it gets to the other side where it's like i don't want to be that guy i don't want to be joke we could and we could kill it sure until we get on screen and everybody watching at home goes oh get these guys out of here they want to be housewives so bad You and I would say the same thing about you and I being on TV. Exactly. Yeah. Terrible catch 22.

Yep. 100%. But this whole Tiff with Gertie and everybody in the group, again, do I see some of the points that the other ladies are making? Sure. Like there's been other situations that are similar to this. I think for me, the difference was the aftermath of it. She didn't get support afterwards. And that pissed me off originally.

It pisses me off now. and the fact that they're glossing over that fact is annoying. And then also, I think a big proponent of it all is when there's been shit in the past, we see the resolution or the support on camera. That was Gertie's big thing. You guys are all saying that, oh, you told her not to do this, you told her not to do that. You did it off camera.

You did it in the bathroom. You did it here. You did it there. Do it in public. Do it in front of the screen. So I feel supported. So I totally get where Gertie's coming from. I'm still team Gertie for life.

I think that the other half of the room is full of shit for the most part. But I totally understand where you're coming from. And I get that point. I think that's a valid point as well. So again, it leads me to before we move on, where do we go from here? How do we move?

Yeah. And it's not exactly new behavior too. So that's also one of the more frustrating parts where you can tell me and I can watch it a million times. The same shit's always going to happen. But we know deep down that for most of these shows, for most of the housewives, they're all full of shit.

They all do this BS. They all put people off camera And Gurdy's not And she just needs to have And I'm not saying she has to change her entire personality It's just a game plan You just have to understand And she does that these things happen

That Marisol is going to pull Julia to the bathroom And say hey, you shouldn't do that You can't do that on our show That's not something that we do here And Julia is still freaking out And I don't think it was planned by Julia to do that at all Julia's emotions got the best of her And she looked like a fucking nutcase

That's what happens But everything in the aftermath was weird I'm not really sure why a lot of this was unseen footage, whether it was... I have no idea. Pulling her aside saying you're putting all your eggs in one basket by not getting support because you were only friends with Nicole. Like that is crucial information for us to watch at home.

Like, why are we watching this now at the reunion? I guess, you know, it's better late than never. But it doesn't hit the same because now we have to process it in real time. Exactly. Because we could have been talking about this as we were going through the Gertie Julia bullshit and saying, Well, they did have a conversation with her afterwards. It wasn't just simply Kiki pulling her away and saying she needs to go home because she's too erratic.

It was, here's a conversation here. Julia got pulled to the bathroom by Marisol to say, hey, you can't do that shit. This happened over here. They're having conversations with Gertie about what the root causes. There was a lot more things going on. And from what I remember in that episode, yeah, that was the big thing. But there was a lot of time filler. There was a lot of gaping that could have easily been replaced by this very relevant footage

that could have given us a better. perspective would have allowed us to have a different opinion we still would have felt the same way but at least we'd have way more context and then by the time they get to the kiki situation i kind of think kiki's also full of shit now obviously in that moment yeah that was the wrong move you don't pull her aside and say hey go home now she can rest on it because of what gerty's doing that's the other part of this gertie needs to say the fuck offline she is way too online yeah the press tour was this is crazy it's not even necessarily a press tour I'm saying press tour, like Instagram, everything.

I know what you mean. Yeah, it is all encompassing at this point whenever you say press store. That's like a tick that I have where they bring up the press store. She wasn't on like 15 different podcasts. This wasn't like West going on the press tour after dumping Sierra. That's a press tour. That was legit. This is just Gertie being on Instagram and Twitter way too much.

And she's talking about things that people were doing. And we did this pretty much the whole episode. But now what you're doing is you're giving ammunition two. people like Julia, which we'll talk about in a little bit, talking about her changing the names of her boys. And also people like Kiki, who you're telling people, hey, I feel like Kiki was just labeling me as an angry black woman in that moment. Now Kiki can say, do you think I'm racist? She wouldn't be able to do that if you didn't say these things online. It would just be about the issue. Now it's about all of the things that you've done since. She's just too online. You do need to try to disconnect

at some point. Just keep some things internally. Talk to your husband. He's a very supportive guy. he might be fucking tired of this shit, but he is very supportive and he can lend an ear talked to Nicole. She understands how this works. Like those are the things you have to do for your outlets. Going online this much only gets you in trouble. Yeah. And I wonder how much of it is, obviously she's been through so much, you know, the cancer

diagnosis battling cancer. And I could honestly see her being in a place now where she's like, life is too short. Like I'm not going to put up with this bullshit. And I respect that. So look, For Life, I still believe that she's going to be a tremendous housewife. I think that she's, this has been a weird year, given everything. There's hope she gets the chance.

I mean, we had reports a couple of weeks ago that Gertie's out, Julia's out, Adrian is out, so I don't know. And I'm not by any means saying that she needs to be off the show. No. The only person that I think might need to be off the show just because there is simply no connection with the group anymore is Adriana. But that's not like a huge surprise. Yeah, but now we have like reason why the.

disconnect like that changes a lot that it does but like it also that i mean they run it back i don't know i mean i think that if they're restructuring what what scares me about the thought of restructuring the cast again we had a what four or five year pause we got back to a great place the show was was struggling the first three seasons we took a breather came back phenomenal TV now three years into the reboot or the the relaunch now we're going to fuck with the cast again like that makes me nervous when we still have a good product on screen I agree that there's some things that could be fixed up a little bit but I am fully under the the platform of if it ain't broke don't fix it and this show's not broken so that's

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saw coming. Season two arrives September 24th, distributed by Realm. But let's move on because we can keep doing this for a while and talk about Stephanie real quick. Nothing crazy here. She clearly did her prep work, which I respect the hell out of. This was a very, very talking to the press kind of response. You know, take accountability, tell where you went wrong, say that you love everybody in the group. Don't come into the reunion as a newbie, hot, ready to go, and now you're yelling at people, say she pissed me off. Just, you know, I'm cool with everyone.

I learned a lot. I had so much fun. I love all these girls in this group. Look, I talk about money. It was a great approach. And she's like answers the money thing immediately. She's like,

look, I worked, you know, I don't know if it's the same thing as like winning the Super Bowl and wearing a ring. But at the same time, like I get what she's saying.

I get the analogy. Yeah. And like as far as like the male dominated industry, absolutely like that makes tons of sense to me. Yeah, of course you have to be a bit more, a bit more stern in how you talk because you're in a male industry

and you want to be taken seriously. It sucks at the, that's a real thing, but I get where she's coming from. But the acknowledgement of the tone was big, the acknowledgement that she gets along with everyone in the group, the acknowledgement about the money thing and an explanation for it. And then just kind of like quietly going, just happy to be here, everybody. Like, great work. I think it was, it was the right approach and it's not at all how I expected it to go because

I did think, and not that, you know, Larson would probably be the biggest stigma in this whole thing going after someone who's got ex-wife rumors, potential cheating, things like that that we heard about Stephanie via Twitter pretty much for the, the whole second half of the season we were talking about this. She addressed the rumors head on. She didn't just try to like step to the side. She addressed them.

She said, yeah, that got kind of out of hands. I've actually never met, uh, Massoud's ex-wife. We actually ran into her. She had some corroboration because- Oh,

Adriana brought that out. Like all that one time's like, Adriana popped in. Yeah. Like it gets, dude, come on. Enough. I love also after the Gertie segment going aside and being like,

Adriana, you've got to chill the fuck out. Yeah. Well, tell about the cruise. It's not about the cruise anymore. It's not about the cruise anymore. You are not helping me at all. But with Stephanie, I think she did a good job addressing all of that.

Nobody stepped in. That's the big thing is that that really means either, one, everybody really is cool with Stephanie at this point because if they weren't, they would have done some digging and asked some more questions or two, they did some digging and there's really nothing there. And it really was just a Twitter rumor or it was Massoud's ex-wife or friends or whatever that were just trying to dig up some shit. We heard a lot of things.

They all kind of got squashed, just beautiful. because no one really brought it up and wanted to dig any deeper. There's really not. We looked at it. I know, but it was it made sense at the time because we knew nothing about Stephanie. We still don't really know a whole lot. I still question if she's actually working. She does that little, uh, that little plug in, you know, I'm multitasking my ass off right now.

This is the most I've ever had to more my life. And it's like, okay, I still think you're a figurehead at the company. But, you know, maybe I'm wrong. Prove me wrong. I want to see you actually work and not just film in a boardroom and just start barking out and having out memos. Like real estate terminology. and just trying to get a meeting going.

These women don't look like they're doing anything, but whatever, who cares? At the end of the day, I think she addressed it perfectly. I think she moved past it. Nobody had any questions. I think it was a pretty good showing, honestly. And now, by the way,

it gets you to a good standing where you can chime in on other people's drama. You can chime in on other things over the next two episodes, and you've already addressed all your shit. So they can't bring it back up because nobody said it at that point. So now you're Scott free, and you got some chances to just actually. actually show up for a reunion.

So I think she's in a good spot. Not to mention when Andy leads a question off with so-and-so from Reddit, I'm like, well, this is bullshit. Yeah, yeah. We're pulling from Reddit. I didn't know we were pulling from Reddit yet. Like that's, that negates whatever question you're about to ask is not true. Because what are we doing on Reddit?

You know what I mean? But yeah, she did a nice job. It was the correct answer. It was the media trained answer. Well done. Don't rock the boat yet. Next year, you can come a little bit heavier if you want to. But this is a good place for a newcomer to be in.

And it's also showing, and this is important for newbies, she had a good arc, came in a little hot, had some tribulations in the middle, settled in nicely. Nice showing at the reunion. That's a great first season. Nice job. Yeah. So, well done. Well done, Stephanie. So we get to, I'm glad Andy brings up the AC of it all.

Is he were talking about me? But she's like, ha, no, we were talking about cocaine. I mean, air conditioning, allegedly. we get into Lisa's season and I will give her credit the Lisa that we see now like of course she still has her quirks she still has the things that make her Lisa she has changed and I will credit her with that like she's she's at least listening a little bit you know that conversation with Jody was huge at the end of the season like actually seeing her not just hear him but actually acknowledge what he said she's in therapy now she's working on her time management we have

seen her show up on time for every event since Stephanie. And he checked her big moves there. So I thought she had a decent season this year. Like I actually liked what I got out, what we got out of her. And it could have went south in a hurry after the red flag event. That could have been really tough. But it wasn't. Like she actually rebounded pretty well.

Had some funny moments this season. And as far as checking in with her, like again, not a whole lot because she wasn't really mixed up in the shit. But I think that was crucial for Lisa, given her last couple seasons. I think also it's really just preliminary. conversations. I think we're still doing this and we don't really expect it just because of the way that reunions have been going recently. The first episode seems to pop off and it's a little chaotic, but we get to the root of a lot of different issues. I think that we're still going to

obviously address the Larsa, Lisa feud. Larsa Jody. Larsa Jody, Larsa Jody, Larsa, Lisa, the Milan stuff, Lisa's father passing away, all of those things are probably going to come up at some point during this reunion. But as far as Lisa's season overall, yeah, everybody who's standing out there saying thank God for Stephanie stepping up and actually checking Lisa that is not why she's on time I'm still telling you the reason why she's on time is because of the debacle that was her getting to Spain

all of that traveling one day trauma from that I guarantee you there's so much trauma to unpack from going from Miami to London taking a train down doing all this and that and whatever people speaking different languages she's probably fucked up from that so now she shows up on time and I hope

it continues to last because it's really funny but that's it's it's not stephanie that did that it's it's her own doing and i appreciate it still yeah yeah and i you know i still think that stephanie played a minor role i want to give her some credit because she actually said what so many people weren't able to we've heard it before but every time anyone checked lisa in the past it was kind of with you know with kitty gloves on like hey you're late again and stephanie dropped the hammer so that plus the train debacle i think you're right that probably has much more to do with it was a tough season for her being on time for things.

Maybe it lit a fire under her ass to actually be on time for a little while. And I, whatever. Hey, it's good by me. Yeah. And like I was saying, like it's a good season to have after being, after drawing a lot of negative attention to herself over the last couple years with the Lenny shit, all of that. You know, we all got tired of it. The cast got tired of it. She kind of blended in this season.

And I think that was big because now next year coming in, it's like a clean slate almost. It's like, all right, Lenny's gone. Initially, we had a whole year without him. We can move on to Jody officially. see what's going on there, dive into Lisa a little bit more, which I think she's earned that for next season to have more of a storyline by being just kind of

an ensemble cast member this year. She'll get engaged by next season, I guarantee that. Or broken up. It's one of the other. I think Jody's going to stick with her. Weirdly, I do. I'm just saying, I don't want to say I'm a fan of Jody, but I don't mind Joe. I'm necessarily rooting for them, but it makes

sense in my mind in a non-negative way, which is a compliment. I don't I don't compliment things that much. Is that a compliment? The best way to say it is, is I don't mind him. Yeah. They're fine.

I don't mind it and it makes sense to me. Yeah, they work. Good for them. Okay. That's pretty good. Yeah, as far as compliments go from us, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's what you're going to get. So nice job.

I'm thrilled and I was nervous that we were going to miss it. And I was actually originally taken aback. by how mellow Andy was with Julia, given what's been going on on Twitter. Now, we need to amend some things because I was under the impression that she was co-signing what Martina was saying. Yeah.

Which, you know what? That's no fault of ours, because I know the same thing. Because she also didn't speak out against it. Exactly. That's what it is, is that she didn't speak out against it. And I do think also this is an important part,

but the fact that Martina took it down And she's immediately, Gertie says, that's not recounting it. That is not coming back and recanting, yeah, that's not recanting your statement. That is just deleting it because you're getting too much pressure on you. That's all it is. And maybe it was Julia at home. We don't know the inner workings of what happened there. But again, I agree with you, co-signing it.

It's almost like an absentee co-signing. You didn't speak out against it. Yeah, omission is also sin by omission kind of deal. Yeah. So it's not like I'm going to rescind everything we see. said, I think that it's important, though, to at least acknowledge that she went on here, said I 100% disagree with those comments. I don't stand by that at all. I was like, okay, I'll give you credit there. And that was massive for her to say that. I agree. Because I was under the impression of

the opposite. Now, again, the lack of response during the whole thing is a big deal to me. But at least she acknowledged it here. I'm still not like a Julia fan by any means. Martina can go straight to hell like she's a miserable person yeah like i don't give a shit about like the the little fun details of getting tennis rackets for the boys like obviously no fault of the boys but i do not care no i don't care what martina you're not going to win me back on martina's side after she goes on the rent you can't have it all fuck you you do have it all what do you mean you do yeah like that's you don't get to say that to people that are struggling to have children so they go the route of surrogacy especially considering lisa had her kids via surrogacy

that's just miserable it's brutal fuck martina i'm glad julia at least spoke up about it still not the biggest fan but she she acknowledged it there which was important but the end of this episode was phenomenal tv for so many reasons and not even just a big drop yeah it's so funny too because up until the big drop going back and forth with gerty and julia about the crews and their feud it was more of the same but it was also just it didn't make a ton of sense Neither of them were really making a lot of sense because Gertie wanted to stay away from the cruise but then she brought the cruise back in

and Julia is talking about something completely different about how their disconnect happened and what actually happened there but we didn't really get any answers and I'm just staring at my TV like what are you guys talking about? What are we getting to here? What's happening?

Adriana's getting involved. What happened here? I figured out the disconnect. I assumed that it was just Julia getting closer. We kind of put to a student. A stooped. I assumed that we got to the root of that over the last two episodes and throughout the season, that it was a little bit of everything.

But something didn't really sit right when they were going through this. It just seemed like they were building towards something else that no one fucking saw coming. And I need to know exactly what happened. I'm actually trying to trace it back. I assume what happened is they referred to it as the Hamptons trip. They were in the Hamptons for Larson's collection. And I think that was two seasons ago. Was it not?

Do you remember that? I remember when we were there. I think it was two seasons ago. I believe it was like a white party. Like every, yeah. Yeah. Yep.

Right? That was it. So maybe it was that night. That must have been it because that's the only time that as a cast, unless they went to the Hamptons together at a different time or Martina went up there. I could see her having a house up there. They definitely have a house and stuff.

So I don't know. Obviously, we'll get more information because that's how the episode ends with that. But as far as before. we get there, I was very confused about what the fuck each person was trying to say. They were just interjecting and just, this is typical reunion stuff, them shouting over each other about nonsense and things that aren't really connected at all. Well, they're both trying to get things off your chest.

Yeah, exactly. And they were trying really funny. They were just trying to weirdly like suppress each other about what they were arguing about. Yeah. Talk about what they wanted to argue about, which doesn't work because we're getting. nowhere and then you throw Adriana into the middle of it and now we're just completely fucked up now I don't know what the hell's going on well she's trying to bring it back to the cruise every single time gertie's saying it's not about the cruise but julia here's

crew so now julia's trying to talk about the cruise gerty's trying to not talk about the cruise but geri brings up the cruise now adriana's telling her to talk about the cruise it's mayhem it's chaos but nothing is as funny as the godfather comment so yeah we bring up marbea and Julia asking, I forget their names, but those two lovely gentlemen to be the godfather, Derek? Derek. Derek. Yeah, asking Derek to be godfathers to the boys. And the questions asked finally, was Adriana ever in the running?

Now, point number one made by Adriana, that's a dagger to the heart because I was your point of contact for multiple adoption agencies to vouch for you in Martina. valid that's a valid thing you you helped them get the boys that's a valid argument okay i can hear that you lose me entirely not just like a little bit i'm completely off the godmother wagon when you go and i asked you to be the godmother of basquiat no no see you're looking at that wrong that is fucking hilarious that is no no no hysterical absolutely gold don't get me wrong laughed out loud at it but to compare the two that's where you lose me as far as like supporting you in any way. I'm like, well, that's just simply not the same.

Her argument is fucking hilarious, though. That's my baby. I don't have children around me. That is my baby. I love, did you not hear my song last week? I wrote an entire song about how much I love my dog. Did you guys not hear that and tear up? Because I asked Julia to be the godmother of my dog.

Everybody's confused, but it's Adriana. So it's not real confusion. It's more just like, oh my God, are you kidding me? I thought it was fucking hilarious. And the best part about that is, she is, she is dead serious. She is not joking. This is not a one-off comment.

She's just to try to ruffles. Don't think she's serious. She gets even more upset that she is taken not seriously about this. It was incredible. I love it so much. And that right there is why I want her to come back. Now I don't want her gone. She can come back.

The swings of Adriana, I thought she was dead in the water, just completely left out there. Nobody cared after those last two episodes. I thought she was done. She's got no connections with the group last. left. What's the point in keeping her on this show if this is what she's going to do? Nope. She makes a comment like that and I'm right back. Right back in. Yeah. And the other part, and this is a small thing, but by acknowledging even me and Stephanie were out to lunch, I was like, oh, okay. So there's a friendship. So now what I would

love to see. Well, was it that scene that we saw where Stephanie and Adriana were at lunch talking about Marisol? I don't know. I'm not sure. It sounded like it was an offseason lunch. Yeah, that's what I got to. I'm going to assume that. Just so I can posit this, where I would love to see Adriana go from here. Okay, get over Marisol and Alexia, move on. Julia, you guys obviously are going to have a lot to talk about now. But I would love to see that door closed and it's like, okay, you have a new friend in Stephanie. Great.

Gertie seems to be leaning on you a little bit because she doesn't have a whole lot of support right now. Fine. That's a trio that I wouldn't have really seen coming. I can get on board with that and be like, all right, well, what is this group doing? What is this group about to? And it's something new, right? It's something different.

Yeah, it's new and different. That's what I would like to see. I agree 100% with you. We were both on the same page with her at the last episode. It's like, oh, wow, you just don't fit anymore. Like, it doesn't make any sense. Basquiat Godmother comment, bang, she's right back in. She's right back in.

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fine she was fine everything was all good then marisol got involved and she completely changed Marisol's like, make me the bad guy again. I'm like, yeah, I'm on your side here, Marisol, like this. That's a weird way to pivot this thing. And then Julia drops not a bomb, but a fucking nuclear warhead. In a way that, by the way, I think is problematic. I don't like that she did this. I think that it's fucked up because if these allegations are true,

you just outed your friend on TV, which I think is brutal. That's never the right way to go about anything. It's her decision. Correct to me if I'm wrong with with Adriana. I think we've known for a little while. Now she hasn't confirmed it, so I agree with you. But I do think that we've known for a while that she's pretty fluid with this type of situation. But I don't know that for fact.

So I don't want to just to someone else speak on it. You know what I'm saying? Unless it's something that happened in the like first season that I didn't watch. But yeah, it was an absolute nuclear bomb that just set off. Yes, it is problematic. but as far as context as to what happened, I do want to know what the fuck happened with you guys. As a viewer, like, yeah, it lends all of the context you really need.

Everything falls into place after this, right? I'm not okay with it just because of how it happened. Now, if there was a discussion with Adriana where it's like, look, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. And she said, like, that, it's just way too weird. It's closer to a, I just don't do it. Yeah, I agree to it.

I think that you know how I feel like if you're going to fuck with because now you're fucking with real life now we're fucking outside of the show so that I don't fuck with I just for me in particular because we've been racking our brains so much over what could this possibly be and then going from the roller coaster of I get where Adriana is coming from it's got to suck to watch Julia just grovel to Alexia and Marisol after years and years of complaining about them then turning to I kind of understand why. Julia is cutting her off. We didn't really know, and this provides so much context that that's why I'm okay from an information standpoint. I get it. I understand where you're coming from and fully understand where you're doing. Well, I mean, it's out there. And like, we didn't say it.

So we obviously we can discuss the context of it. And it's like, like, yes, this, this, unfortunately for Adriana, every single thing falls into place. Now it all makes sense because something happened. But it doesn't. And we're going to dig into it, I'm sure, at the beginning of the next episode, just simply knowing that this happens, yes, it gets our brains racing in different directions, trying to figure out exactly what it is. But it could, again, with more context, be Julia wanted to talk about it, Adriana, didn't want to talk about it. Then it becomes worse.

Because if Adriana didn't want to talk about it and just kind of wanted to gather her thoughts and kind of figure out her feelings, you just out of there. Fuck that. That's awful. That's my point. But if it was, we had a full conversation about it, and Adriana kept shoving it in my face that we did this and she wanted me to talk about it, then it's a completely different thing. So I, until we get that context, I don't really want to rack my brain about it because we've

done so much of that. No, and we don't have to speculate until we get information, you know. Yeah, exactly. But again, it just adds another fucking loop into the nightmare roller coaster that this has been for these two over the last two seasons. it makes sense honestly it fills in a huge blank that we didn't really see coming which whenever something like this happens we we understands that we missed a lot of signs there was a lot of things and we didn't understand what the hell was going on maybe we didn't look that

closely and so here you go here sit on a silver platter this is what happens fuck okay now I can see a couple different pathways that just opened up as to why we are where we are yeah and that's what I mean by like everything falls into places like like now you can connect because we were here in the beginning and then we were here at the end and this whole middle part was just fog now you have some pathways through that fog where it's like okay maybe this happened maybe now we can posit that's multiple that's like the 15th time I said posit uh that's the word of the day guys but you can start to see I don't think you said positive I said it at least once because I remember thinking my head was like nice dude nice we

to force that in there. But yeah, it gives us some routes on how we got there, right? Now, obviously, given these circumstances, I don't want to sit here and speculate on everything, but that being said, we also know that we're going to get the context next week anyway. Right. You know, and it's not like this was a cliffhanger to a new season and we have six months to figure it out. That would be awful. I'm going to speculate my ass off if that was the case.

This is, we'll find out next week. So there's no need to speculate. but the funniest like scene after is you know obviously jrown's upset and if she wanted this to not be out like i i feel really bad for her and fuck julia for doing that um especially like here's here's where my big issue lies all right then we can move on to the funny scene at the end julia's claiming that it happened in the hamptons and they fooled around in the versaci mansion which is a pretty baller lied i'm not going to lie yeah but what you're doing now is like now you're drawing all kinds of speculation and if this is something that adrian did not want to talk about did not want out in the open you just bulldozed her and that's not fair to her because it is going to affect her in a lot of ways that maybe she didn't want to deal with maybe she didn't want to have that out there so i don't i think that depending on how it goes next week like i'm already not on board with it but i think i could go further the other way but anyway

i mean you guys get where i stand but the line at the end where Adrian is obviously now like, you know, you cheated on your wife, which is also an aspect we haven't talked about by the way. You did cheat on Martina, but that also, you have to start then thinking like, okay, we don't really know the parameters of their relationship. These are also scenes

for next week, so it's just more context. Yeah, and like Julia also makes out with, you know, half the cast and all that. So we don't know. We'll wait for that diagnosis, Jesus Christ, that news to come forward. But when

Adriana is like going after Julia like you cheated and all you do is try to seduce people and Alexi going yeah nobody says no I'm like she's right she's right I also love it when somebody like barks back at Adrian or at Alexia she makes the same face every time or she just takes a step back and she you can see it on her face not worth it I'm not doing this like yeah nope nope no it's not worth it and especially in that situation but yeah I mean I let out an audible audible holy shit when that happened I was like oh my God God. Like, what? Didn't see that coming? And when I woke up this morning, Dev was scrolling and she's like, oh, my God. Did you see Miami? Have you seen anything? I was like, no, and don't tell me. So glad she didn't tell me because when it happened, my jaw dropped. But it certainly was an interesting first episode. The back end of it was a lot to take in. But let's get to some questions and see how our audience felt about everything. here you go from Elliot from Orlando can we all agree Julia is a user of people in this quote unquote bombshell just makes her look worse it definitely could I think it's more likely that it's going to make her look worse next week with more context than it will be like a you forced my hand I had to drop this because you're not making any sense and I had to provide everybody with the context like those are the only real two options I don't think there's really an in between yeah agreed um

uh from luck's life good from luck's life how do you feel about the way that andy handled gertie during part one andy plays favorites on this show i think more than most he does not like adriana he makes that very well known and i don't really think he cares for gertie that much because i don't think that he gives her the benefit of the doubt that he gives the other ones and when she's lined up against anyone else seemingly he seems to take her side now there's a little a couple little nuances when you see him interviewing he does show favoritism here and there. It wasn't that apparent, but you can tell that he's not really allowing Gertie to be

that. And maybe it's just because of the press store that you went on. Maybe he knows, and he saw all the clippings. And he's like, yeah, you're going to have to defend all this shit. So you're kind of on your own. You know, the way I saw it was, I was irritated at the forcing the apology. Like, but they apologize by, yeah, dude, I got it. But like, you clearly see where she stands. So like, let's not force the issue.

move on to another topic or press the other side of the room as to why Gertie is like that was where I got irritated and I didn't talk about that really I won't go deep into it but I don't like when we get an apology even if it's you know a blanket statement of I've apologized five times I'll get on my hands and knees blah blah blah I would much rather Andy go back to that side of the couch and be like okay well she's not accepting it why do you think that what do you guys think that you've done I think he's going to move on he will and that sucks But, you know, that was where I saw it. And that's why I'm more on the side of like Gertie and not the other side of the room.

But it's interesting reading the questions because we do have a pretty 50-50 split. There's a lot of people that are saying Gertie needs to take or advice and listen more. Gertie wants everyone to listen to her. That's where I kind of see too, where it's that's, and that's part of her being able to make friendships within the cast is we've seen this for years now. And it's been the same thing. I mean, yeah, there's been little instances here and there. they're slightly deviated from a different thing. But the main issue here is every time that she gets into an argument with somebody,

she just wants them to hear her side of it and she never hears their side. She sits there and listens. But she always says, I wish that you would have texted me. I wish that you would have emailed me. And it's like, okay, but like here's your opportunity. And this is how you're doing it now. You're doing it right now and you're not listening to them. You're not trying to hear their side because you're doing such a, an overbearing job of making

sure they understand where you're coming from. I think they understand where you're coming from, but you don't get where they're coming from, and that's part of the reason why we don't really see much of a change. And Zoe said that. Zoe Cudla-Polet said, Gertie wants everyone to listen to her, but doesn't listen to anyone else.

That is pretty much what she's been doing, and then she gets upset, then no one's listening to her, and it's just kind of tough. Yeah, Elliot from Orlando, can we all agree? Julie is a user of people in this bombshell just makes you look worse.

Yes. Yes, I think so. I know what she's doing. I just read. Did you just read that? well yeah yeah so there you go uh let's see let's do a few more from caleb howl um what the fuck yeah agreed uh let's see a lot of people asking how martina's going to feel about this i imagine there was a conversation before julia left yeah that this was the plan um maxi v 374 will lars to go

the distance with Marcus 2.0. No. Probably not. She's not going to. She might get to the point where she's engaged, but they're not getting married. Yeah, this is so much like, this is fascinating. We got all ends of the spectrum in here, all support for all different kinds of people. Uh, let's see. I like this one from Gwen, AU 95. Why does production hide a lot of temper tantrums? Glad unseen footage was shown in regards to Julia. I don't know. the fact that we have not seen until now the breaking of the chair and throwing of more objects is crazy to me they're clearly trying to protect her for some reason there i don't know or they know something to do with that it was relevant it could just be one of those situations where at the time because

when they bring up scenes now obviously i'm kind of leaving out the scenes of adriana and julia from like 2021 and whatever but when they bring up the scene of julia breaking the chair it may have just been in the midst of a season that had a lot of shit going on and it wasn't really relevant but now they can use it. Now they can kind of like build a bit of a compilation of here's all the times that Julia's lost her shit and here's all the times the things have been thrown because it's actually relevant now. I don't know if it was they're trying to protect her because I don't remember what the

context was. I don't remember what the hell was going on that season. And nobody really does. I mean, if you really want to do your due diligence, go back and watch. Let us know. Send us a message. We'll read it. We'll figure it out.

Mm-hmm. Do one more. This is a fun one to end on from Pauline. K-A-K, right who you think was best and worst-dressed at the reunion. Shooter, our resident fashionista. Stephanie was worst-dress. That green thing is fucking hideous.

Best dress is tough. I mean, I love the yellow with Alexia. Yeah, she looked great. That's probably, yeah, I'm going to go with Alexia. I think Alexia's best dress. That yellow, it rocks. Yeah, Alexia looks great. Worst dress is definitely, Stephanie.

any time anybody ever goes for like a weird blazer combo with a dress no like that's the power suit power suit dress no it is and i know what she's doing and i understand that she's a business yeah i'm a business lady i'm in the business world but like the funny thing is she would wear that exact thing to work i'm pretty sure she did hilarious she may have already done that um but i think that that was a hideous combination so i'm going to go with worst dress stepney i think Alexia probably takes that. Yeah. Alexi always looks great, though.

Yeah, she looked great. Gertie looked great. Kiki looked great. Kiki always looks great. Yeah, that too. Yeah, I mean, pretty much they're all similar. And then you got the Stephanie in the bottom,

Alexia on top. I would agree with that. But, yeah, it's shaping up to be quite the reunion. This was fun because I didn't see it coming. It was kind of just like, oh, ho-hum, and then holy shit.

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