Bros & Shows - Karen Outta Prison, Lindsay Hubbs New Show, Britney vs. GG, SOHO/VPR Member (NEWS 9/4/25)

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

Karen got outta prison, Lindsay Hubbard as a new show on the horizon. GG took some shots at Britney in the comments and Doute and Zach came to her defense. Southern Hospitality may have a VPR transplant. All that and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I gotta have me of my bros and shows Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of pros and shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, the fabulous gooder. What's up, dude? Not a whole lot. Back for some news. This has become a staple with Bravo being down.

Let's get a little news out there, and there's a lot going on. A lot of off-seasons, a lot of rumors. A lot of the bris and stuff. It's tough to, like, go. through and find obviously you know there's the big hitters which you know we'll get into but there's also this is a rumor here's a rumored cast for this show and it's like well how reasonable are we talking right now like can i actually get into it or is this just some idiot on twitter posted something and it went viral for no reason there's been a lot of that yeah there's

been a lot of that with uh different things i know just touching on it quickly quickly quickly quickly quickly quickly uh the love island game season still hasn't released their cast, but people think that they have the leak, and then people are just battling in the comments, because some of them just don't make any sense. It's the leak. The leak was, the only people you would know would be Bell Dasha and Chris.

That makes sense. And And Andrina. Okay, that makes sense. It kind of makes sense because it's just like, you know, the people, Chris is a little different because of the whole hood of situation, but. Can I guess another one? Sure. Snake trainer guy from two seasons. Rob, no. No. He's on,

which we'll call it? Dancing with the Stars. Nope. The voice. No. American Idol. Keep going. The Masked Singer.

How about one that actually makes sense for NBC? Okay. Survivor. CBS. Big brother. CBCC. That's a network. Traders.

Oh, come on. He's on Traders. So Peacock is on. So we'll get to see him interact with Derinda. That'll be fun. That'll be interesting. But, yeah, so there were a couple of those, and then, you know, for those people at home that watched season six, because then it gets into, like, they're pulling in people from Australia and, which I did not know, France and Spain and South Africa. You didn't know, I knew they were pulling from, I didn't know they had.

I didn't know they had those shows. I just assumed that most places have them. Yeah, I knew, obviously, about UK, and I knew about Australia. They aren't under. They threw in. Yeah, there were some other ones in there in the mix. but from season six they had Kendall and Nicole

which they were dating and then broke up and they're both in the show right now. I think I saw that. Didn't they show like it was not like a big deal? Yeah. She removed them from her profile or unfollowed or something. Like how you get news for every fucking show now. So this person unfollowed somebody.

So yeah, the supposed cast we just talked about it but I'm not going to go further into it because it's supposed. It's a It's speculative. It's very speculative. And then also dancing with the stars. There are a couple of people who were confirmed for dancing with the stars that we do know. A couple of Mormon housewives.

Oh, not housewives. Sorry. Mormon wives. Mormon wives. Not Sheener? No. God, no. I just hope that there's a producer that works for Dancing with the Stars that has an ongoing bit in perpetuity.

That would be amazing. You never allow her on this show. But tease her about it. Yeah, tease her about it directly. We might have an opening. Ah, it didn't work. Maybe if she keeps doing the mass singer and all those other reject shows, she can try to get in there.

She got to do special forces first. Yeah, she does. That's the stepping stone. Are we sure because Sandoval did? That's what I'm saying. But then he did traitors and then he, for lack of a better term, kind of had a resurrection. So that's why she is so mad at Ariana because she just bypassed all those stepping stones. Yes, she skipped.

Right to dance with the stars and then she was the host of Love Island. Correct. Dancing with the stars is the last one. Yeah. And then you get to go back. to, like, real TV. Then you can do big things. Uh-huh.

Wow. Real TV. Real TV. Wow. That's offensive to dancing with the stars people. I like dancing with the stars. Mm-hmm. I didn't mean...

No, I was saying... No, no, no. I was saying that dancing with the stars gets you back on that same level. Because I, look, I've been watching Dancing with the Stars. They used to watch it religiously, especially when I lived in Texas. That's weird. My grandmother and I would watch it together.

That's weird. And why is that weird? It was weird originally because I was imagining you just sitting here watching it by yourself. Alone? I mean, I'm just sitting here watching it by yourself. Alone? I mean, I'm not above it. Certainly not above it.

But I watch it. There are some things that you should be above. Why? What do you get out of that show? Watching it alone, watching it with your grandmom is a very sweet sentiment. Because every once in a while, you get a really moving dance. And it hits you in the fields. And I appreciate that.

Or you get the people that really shouldn't be there in dance. And that always, I like that. It makes some people uncomfortable to watch people like fail miserably. But I think it's kind of funny. But I, you know, the touching dances where it's like, you know, His dog died like four years ago, and this was their song. Is it Keanu Reeves? That's John Wick?

Yeah, this is John Wick on Dancing with the Stars. He ended up killing everybody, but good episode. Oh, God. No, I don't know. Look, I will never be too tough to watch anything by myself. I don't appreciate it. Well, the confirmed people for that show are Whitney. Wild Rose?

No. Oh, Whitney Mormon-Wise Whitney. Okay. And Jen Affleck. Could do without. Could do without, for sure. And Dylan Ephron, who we could do with. I love Dylan.

Yeah. I love how he's just become a household name. Did you see him and Zach playing golf shirtless? It's incredible. It's amazing. I watched it. It's just unbelievable. Great content by those boys.

So yeah, that's, you know, dancing with stars for whatever reason. It's not a show that, like, we'll cover, but it's a show that for whatever reason we're always talking about. I feel like dancing with the stars for some strange reason is like a barometer of, if you, you're still relevant. Yeah. You know, like, Aaron Davis is also supposedly on it.

Oh, really? Barron Davis still relevant? I just, I feel like, I don't know. It can, it like shines a light on people

that are trying to get back into relevancy. Yeah. I feel like it shines a light on people. They're like, oh yeah, remember that guy? Yeah.

You know, that's kind of the whole cast. Victor Cruz, yeah. There you go. Yeah. But he'll just do the mamba. He just did the salsa.

A salsa. Salsa, yeah. Never forget when he got hurt. People were cheering in Philly. Yeah. Not our best moment. Not again. Not our best moment.

Yeah. He had some bad ones. I'm sick of hearing about Santa Claus, though. Because that guy was hammered and he fucked it up. So we threw snowballs at him. That's his fault. Like, fucking 60 years ago. Yeah.

And the kid that we booed, he fucked up the words. Nobody's booing Dallas. 60 years ago, you know what happened in Dallas? JFK got shot. Nobody's just booing Dallas out, right? Why were they booing in Philadelphia? That's the same thing. It's the exact same fact.

Too soon? Is it too soon? I don't know. Put the top down. Put the top up. Put it back up, yeah. No, take it down. Anyway, let's get into the real news.

We got to start off with, of course, Karen's release. Feels like two years early, but yeah, she's getting out. It is two years early. Un- fucking real. Correct me from wrong. I believe she was sentenced to, like, 14 months. It was 14 to 18, something in that mix. Oh, no, no, it was two years.

It was two years. I thought it was a year of probation a year in. You can look it up real quick, but that's what I remember it being. But obviously, you know, the time gets a little skewed. But we did talk about that in real time because that was ongoing while Potomac was going on. So we just did sort of like the little side-by-side comparison. One year, one-year prison sentence. One-year prison sentence.

Okay. Which she only served fucking a little more than half of that. I'm looking right now. Time is a flat service. So do we really even know? I will say, like, dude, it feels like she got arrested yesterday. No, she was sentenced to two years. That's what I thought.

One year served, remember? That's what it was. It was the whole one year served thing, which, what's her service? Being on Potomac? I mean, I guess. When did she? It doesn't say how early she was officially released. Hold on.

This is going to drive me nuts. I need to figure it out. You keep doing it. Either way, the discourse online. Six months. So six months early. Jesus. That's incredible. The discourse online is very funny because obviously, and we knew this was going to happen.

And if you've watched a housewife show before, you go back to like Teresa Judice, who, by the way, they waited for her to get out. They were pictures, but they completely paused the show. Potomac is done filming. We just got a trailer for that. We already know what's going to happen. They picked up cameras. They picked up cameras, of course. And this is one of the few times where I understand picking up cameras.

You have to pick up cameras. You have to pick up cameras. come back to the show, which she's definitely going to. She's absolutely going back to the show. And I bet you her price went up. Probably. Isn't that fucked up? It's kind of fucked up, but like, it makes sense. Her price went up. Now, Jen Shaw is a different animal.

Her price should go down. Yeah, she's completely different. Guess what? Definitely going to be back on TV. She's definitely going to be back on TV. Now, with Karen, it's a little different because you just want to, you know, tell the local squirrels and deer, the wildlife. Watch out. Watch out. But her release is contingent upon a couple of, of things. One, she cannot get behind the wheel for a year.

I just don't let her drive again. We said that last year. Just never let her drive again. This, yeah. She also, after that year, if she wants to start driving again, they do have to put the little mechanism in the car. Breathlizer, John. Breathlizer, yep. And then she also has, like, a five-year probation status. So she's got to be on her best behavior. Good. She, she's going to be interesting, you know, coinciding with housewives. Well, it shouldn't be a lenient sentence. Like, She could have killed somebody, especially it being, I think, you know, I don't quote me on this. It's three or four. She's had three or four DUIs.

I feel like your license should be permanently suspended. And I feel like you should have bigger ramifications than what she has gone through. Five years probation sounds miserable, but like well deserved. Because I do feel, it's like the comparison thing where you say Jen Shaw is a different story. It's like, yeah, but no, because Karen's thing could have went an entirely different direction if she ran into a family with her car. Yeah. I think Karen, the difference between Karen and Jen Chow is Karen obviously could have hurt somebody.

Could have, but didn't. Jen did hurt a lot of people. Lots of people. Financially, which is, you know, hit them where they hurt. Hit them where they hurt. That's what they say. They say, hit them where they ain't. So, yeah, I think, honestly, because there were obviously

stories and pictures of Bravo's production team showing up, she got hair and makeup in the prison before she was released, which is hilarious, and it makes me wonder, has that ever happened before? Only when Jen Shaw and Galane, Maxwell, we're doing yoga together. Galane is not allowed to do yoga. She is not part of Shaw Robics. Shaw, I don't know if she calls it. I think it's Shaw Robics.

No, it's, uh, Shaw Stetics. Galishtonics. Shonics. You think Coach Shaw pops up to just, like, coach them? I did see a picture of him. with her at the like celebrating their anniversary the saddest anniversary i couldn't help myself when i saw that i was just too funny but uh i think they probably went even a step further i bet jazelle was there to greet her that would be fucking funny i mean that they're gonna play it up because no they're gonna

play it up yeah i know i'm gonna watch it i mean the the start of the trailer was jazelle sitting there writing a letter to karen saying you gotta help me with these bitches i dude it's gonna start that way and it's going to end with the two of them sitting down discussing Karen's prison. I'm okay. Now, we did see before that Karen did not discuss anything because she couldn't, because she was worried about the appeal, is she going to take the same stance, or is she going to be very open about her whole experience? Well, now there's no reason to keep anything behind the veil. But she could still probably play the, I'm on probation.

I can't talk about that. That's not a thing. She'll make it a thing. You already got sentenced and served. I'm already, I'm pre-annoyed about it. I'll tell you is that much. Also, the other thing I'm pre-annoyed about is anytime the Karen does anything, it's going to hit really funny the first couple of times that it's said.

Don't, like, you're on probation. You don't want to go back to prison. Don't do that. Don't throw anything or whatever she might be doing or getting upset. By, like, the next season when a one-off person, like, I don't know, Kearnah, says something. I'm like, enough. I think it's going to be funny every time.

Just remind her all the time that she went to, It's going to be funny for the first season. And I'm not counting this season because she's not going to really be in this one. But that season, when she comes back, it's going to be funny pretty much the whole season. The next season after that, it depends on how the show's doing. If the show sucks and people are still doing it, enough. That's a different story. What I will say is knowing how Bravo sympathizes with bad people frequently, we're probably going to get a sad pen pal storyline of Karen.

Like, we're going to get check-ins with Karen via letters. and they're going to put sad music behind it to try to make us feel bad for the person that got arrested for doing something bad. I'm also waiting for that first mention of Ray's conjugal visit. Oh, God. That's going to be fun. Yeah, looking forward to that.

I don't even think Karen's going to bring it up. I can see Giselle doing it. Giselle's definitely going to make that joke. It's an easy joke. How many times the Ray come to visit? Conjugal trailer? Here's my thing, because Potomac, obviously, it was somewhat of a bounce back. You know, we liked a lot of things going on in the show.

Yeah, Mia's gone. So that's cool. He is gone. Focus on that. That's going to be a positive. Obviously, last season was up and down. There was a lot of shit we didn't like. There was some stuff we did like.

The new cast members gave you some reason to hope for the future, you know. But what I don't want to happen and what I'm really scared is going to happen. Karen essentially for me needs to be a friend of for the next year and a half. Not going to happen. I know. Look, I also, I don't think, I, I'm leaning more towards. think that this was, this past season was pleasant enough. Obviously, Mia brought it down the whole fucking season.

But I thought Giselle did a good job, and I do think that Giselle can carry. Giselle was great, and she absolutely can carry. Yeah, but I'm worried about moving forward what that means for the show, but I need to see what this season looks like first. So I am a little afraid, I'm just a little trepidacious going into this season, because I don't know how it's going to play out with. Mia's gone. What do we actually have here?

I think, you know, Wendy's going to be kind of up in the air. a little bit for me. You'll be interested. She had a great year last year. Stacy's going to be great. Stacey seems like she's bringing it in the trailer. Giselle is still great. The sophomore slump is always going to come into play.

But I do think that we're going to get to a point where it's like, I think we do need Karen. I think it's one of those shows where we do absolutely need her. I'm not saying that she isn't like an integral part of the show. I'm saying I don't like to reward bad behavior. Now, I do firmly believe that if you serve her, you get out of jail and you are an outstanding upstanding citizen that like you you served your time I'm cool like whatever but at the same time I don't want her to be launched back into a role as the

center what do they carry not cherry blossoms because you can't hold those that's what we kept saying is martinis or something I don't know but like oh it's champagne flutes okay I don't want her to be holding a center champagne flute like I feel like you should make her work her way back up for two reasons. One, we shouldn't be rewarding prison sentences, and two, you light a fire under her ass. She's going to bring it. Like, if you have to work your way back into the fold and, like, here's the thing. I'm well aware that none of this is going to happen. It's not going to happen. Yeah. But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that is something I would much prefer because I don't like how Bravo gets these villains and in real life, like they're doing fucked up shit and yet we still

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Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. we're able to still watch, well, maybe at least me, I'm able to still watch somebody who's really good for the show and makes the show good

in spite of what they've done outside of things. I'd much rather just see the product, but there are a lot of people out there that are stands of people that will also follow their personal life and do all of that shit, and it's like, all right, that's a little too much. It's a little, like, I don't know,

I don't want to compare them to Taylor Swift, but if Taylor Swift did something deplorable, there would be millions of people that are still like, no, it's fine, it's still great, it's still great, and like those are the people that concern me. And there's a lot of people like that in Bravo that are still going to do that.

Now, obviously, if you're a terrible person and the product is shit, Jack Taylor, then get them out of the show. Get them to fuck off. But if Karen's delivering, if it's a housewife, and it's something like this or, you know, whatever it might be,

I can separate the two. Yeah, I'm not having an issue there and if the show's good, the show's good, and, you know, that's not what I'm saying. I'm simply saying from a moral standpoint, which, again, Bravo morals is an oxymoron, but... Well, I mean, you could say the same thing about sports, though. I mean, how many players get suspended for doing terrible shit? And I say they should...

And then they're, you know, a great running back. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not cool with that. I'm not like, yeah, get them back out there. I'm like, no, fucking kick them off the tour, Doug. I agree. That's what I believe. I agree. Here's the thing.

We're on a good trajectory with the show. Mia's gone. We got some good news. newbies in the fold, we like that. We're going to have a season without Karen, which I'm curious, because what if we get a great product, Karen less? That's what I'm going to say, yeah. So if she's sorely missed, which I don't really know what that even looks like, but

if it's very apparent that Giselle can't do this alone, again, I still think that she's able and capable to do things, I just don't know, you know, going into the next season with all the changes with Karen's impending release, if it'll still be the same, if it's still good, if it's lacking, then yeah, go for it. I still don't see, like you said, I don't see a world in which Karen gets out of prison and she's not just immediately, maybe not center. I think Giselle should still be

center, but she's going to be as close to center as possible. I mean, it's free views. People are going to watch. Absolutely. I understand that part. I just want to see what happens. Yeah, for sure. We'll have to see how that one unfolds. I'm sure they're going to be pretty tight-lipped about the whole thing. I can't imagine Karen's going to be able to do any interviews until the season drops and all of those types of things.

So we're not going to hear a whole lot. It's going to be a lot of rumors and a lot of speculation he said he said whatever so we'll have to see what goes but we'll move on to the next topic and this is one of our favorite shows on bravo southern hospitality you know we got some cast rumors cast rumors we've got a lot of things going on this is i mean it's one of the best shows on bravo we've seen now just in this last week actually i think it's next week uh meredith is going to be performing just doing her DJ circuit performing at republic i'm sure the whole cast will be there. We know that a certain person's birthday

happens where there was an emo night involved and the whole cast was there and they were filming. It's shaping up to be a great season just from what we've heard in the pictures that we've seen. But there's another little tidbit that we need to discuss. Are we talking about what show now? Because you just still saw the hospitality. No, I brought up DJ Meredith Marks. Yeah, which who's going to be at Republic in the season. Soho potentially They're wrapping filming next week. Yeah, the, the

finale is being filmed on September 10th. Soho, which I can't imagine that this is not what's happening because why the fuck would she be there? But there is a potentially, we're getting a trade. Yep. We got a trade from VPR over to Southern Hospitality in the name of Ali Lubber. Now, there are conflicting reports. Some people are saying that she moved to Charleston, which I could absolutely see.

Get her away from James anyways. So why not? though she is on the show yeah she's what capacity no idea but she's been filmed she's been taking pictures with cast members she seems to be friends with a lot of them so she's going to be on the show i just don't know in what capacity it'll probably start off as a friend of but if she lives there she'll probably be on it moving forward and she also works age wise she's right in that 27 28 year old range talk about her going to soho we discussed a lot of people we were talking about trades one day and who we would trade and we tried to keep it in like the summer house

I think we were trying to fix one of the shows. Oh, Southern House, Southern Charn. After assuming that Lindsay, Kyle, Amanda, Carl, that they would all move on, how would we make it work? Right, right, right. So we just started handpicking and, like, cherry picking all of the younger cast members of different shows. Yeah, that's right. And I think that's how it came about, but I'll get the Summer House, too, because there's some news in there. But with this, I think it makes a lot of sense.

I think it makes a ton of sense. now I don't know because we have only seen her with James but she showed up a little bit more and she was involved in a lot of stuff of VPR that last season so I think it's a good fresh face new place it's a good try to see what they got there I think that she'll fit in with that crew and I'm also curious to see because I liked Allie I actually enjoyed her that last season

I thought that she did enough I'm curious to see what she looks like without James in her own setting, like you're not piggybacking off somebody else to be on the show, which I don't think she was trying to get on the show, but that's always going to be a... That's always going to be a thing. With VPR in particular, it's always a thing. Exactly. So I'm curious to see how she stands on her own two feet in a new show, new place, new cast.

And with Soho, I mean, that's one of our favorite shows. And it's going in the right direction. Absolutely. Last season was great. We've heard a lot of insider information this season. is apparently shaping up to be a really good one as well. I think that it works. I like that it's a familiar face that we're not that familiar with.

Yeah, exactly. That's sort of why I like kind of aired on the fresh face thing. But I think it's going to be great. And I honestly, I think that this season's going to be their biggest. This is going to be their like coming out party. Yeah. There's just like an announcement of this is where we are. And, you know, people will still say it's a new VPR.

I always hate when people compare things. But it's going to be a great season, and I think it's going to be a great show. And the ratings last year got a lot higher than it was before. So we're leading in that direction. I think it's going to work out well. Go back to season one and listen to us, and we fucking called it. We said, this show's going to be massive. They've got something here.

It works. It's the right format. It's geared towards a younger generation. It's exciting. And it's legit. Like, that's the thing that separates Soho from a lot of shows right now. They are all actually friends. and they're all actually going through things and they butt heads a lot and it's genuine and you can tell it's genuine and that's what makes a great show and that's what we're lacking in so many different shows on Bravo so I'm excited for that show to come back I would imagine it's in the next couple months yeah I think it's slated for early 2020 new oh next year is it they always take a few months to to edit and stuff I could see it probably December makes sense we do this all the time summer January makes sense two weeks

Southern Hospitality. I don't really understand how it works too because we see that they're done filming and then within a month or so we're like all right what happens and then we don't get a trailer

for like three months after that and then it doesn't come out until spring and we're like what the fuck. Then you get a trailer after hearing nothing. Yeah. And then you get nothing and then it's like

tomorrow Southern Hospital premieres like whoa. My point of reference is Summer House. Summer House is at least a steady filming schedule that we know every year, starts July 4th, ends Labor Day. Yep.

Labor Day just passed, so they're done filming too. They're going to move on, and it usually comes out in February. So that's why I'm saying maybe they could rush this a little bit because they don't want two things happening at one time. Maybe they'll overlap a little bit. I don't really know how it's going to look, but I think it's going to work out great. I think it's going to be a great season.

If I'm Bravo, get it out quick, because it doesn't have a lot to compete with right now. Yeah, that's a really good point. And we'll have to see what their slate looks like. That's a good fall show because you're looking at like spring weather, Charleston. Tomics sometime in October. Again, you don't have, like, Housewives isn't going to go up against Soho,

so they have two different shows. Southern Charm has to come out first. Southern Charm finished filming like two months ago. Southern Charm's going to stink. I don't know if it is or not. It probably will, but it's going to be interesting to see Craig single and all that shit and all the fallout. But I'll digress from that because I want to get into Summer House a little bit,

and this is a little speculative, but we've been hearing about it for a very long time about Lindsay potentially doing a spinoff show. So in New York, it's seemingly confirmed to an extent where Lindsay has dropped a little tidbits here and there. I thought, but it's not about Roney now? It's not going to be Rony now. No, no. So they're working on, that's another part of it, they're working on rebooting Roney Legacy. That's what I'm hearing.

I've heard that for a while, which is we talked about that before. We hear about it every year, yeah. That honest, about this time every year, because there's not enough going on, this shit starts and we talk about Roney Legacy. What happens, it's fall in New York. Every time it gets to fall in New York, people are like, hmm, Roney. It'd be really cool for Roney was back. That would be a great time. But instead, yeah, it's really just with Roney.

We never really know. We'll report on legitimate news when it comes out, if it comes out. The actual franchises on pause, the legacy franchise, who the fuck knows? They've been paused and going to be unpaused for four years now. Is Carol being friends with Andy again and squawks? washing the beef is that, you know, an indicator that they're coming back soon. And who the fuck knows? We'll figure it out.

You'll figure it out. It'll happen when it happens. But with Lindsay, this is something that we kind of figured is going to happen. And we've heard people talk about this before for Kyle and Amanda talk about it. It seems like this is their last hurrah, finally, where Lindsay, maybe not Carl, because Carl's got soft bar opening next week, which is not newsworthy, not throwing that in here. But Carl's got softbar opening in the next couple of weeks. I think it's cool.

It's good for him. You actually got it built. Yeah, you got it. It just took fucking years and years. That's why it's not newsworthy for me. But with Lindsay, obviously that is newsworthy because now she's open to showing her daughter on social media a bunch now. She's doing interviews. She's been pictured, obviously, with the summer house cast.

We don't really know what that looks like. Is she staying in the house? Is she staying somewhere else? Showing up as a friend of. Who knows what that's going to look like. But there's a lot of steam heading towards her doing a show in the city. Who would she do it with? I would imagine, honestly, probably by next fall,

we'll probably have a show. And whatever that show looks like is what it is with Lindsay. But now they're saying, and I think Andrea let something slip, that he's coming over to film with Lindsay. That's what he's said somewhere. But is he going to be full-time, or is that, like, I'm coming over to that. I don't even know what the show is, so we can't even really say, like, what full-time would even look like.

I mean, we can speculate as to, like, the show's probably going to be around Lindsay's life, Lindsay has a mother, Lindsay's social life as a mother, Lindsay's friend group, and that's an easy plug and play because there you got, you know, Paige is coming in for a little bit. And you got,

you know, Gabby comes over for a little bit. There's easy people to bring over. So like, I mean, we've been talking about this for a while that the right shift for summer houses to take them to the city.

And they've started doing that during the season. We're getting a lot more New York scenes, which the audience loves. Everyone's talking about that. So it makes sense that they're going to do this. We both agreed last, last season of Summerhouse, Lindsay can be the focal point of a show. She can definitely carry a show.

She has that star quality of a reality TV star. So, like, she can definitely do this. Absolutely. I'm just curious what the format's going to be, really. And who's going to be on it? Like, what's the other cast members look like? That's going to be the question. So, like, will they be able to figure out if Page can get involved at a full-time status?

Are they going to figure out if Amanda and Kyle are going to come over? Like, what's it going to do? is it just leading into this is Lindsay's life and these are all of the things that she does will we get like an errand pop up in there because we did see pictures Oh yeah they're hanging out

They're like besties now Yeah so there's going to be a lot of A lot of things in motion I would imagine But I think it's going to be a show Completely centered around Lindsay I think it's going to be centered around her life And these are the people who are in it I think that's probably what we're going to get

I'm fine with that pretty interesting life So I'm fine with that It's at least something a little bit new And again we've said this time and time again Bravo should just start. You've got the whole NBC payroll. Just throw some shit at the wall with people that we know. People will watch it.

And now we don't have these lulls that we've had where there's no housewife shows on. I'm not even calling OC a housewife show. But there's no housewife shows on for a fucking month. What are we doing? I don't know. No real Bravo shows for a month. So you turn on Bravo on a Tuesday night now. All you're really going to get is...

Below deck reruns. Yeah, the reruns. Yeah, which I know below deck med is on right now. But there are so many different spots that they could fill in. And you can throw them on peacock, too, and people will watch that, too. And the other part is, like, they need a new formula. Yeah. We talked about this a lot.

They have to figure out a way to take Bravo to the next generation. Soho's a great start. We need to just take more risks. Next gen worked. Shocking. Yeah. And it worked. So, like, clearly, and I just hope they fucking recognize it because the Bravo move is to

rehire producers that don't work. I fucking suck at their jobs, and then they ruin other shows. Let's look at what's working and then redo that in multiple different places around the country. Yep. It's pretty simple. It is pretty simple. It's a pretty simple strategy that they could go about, and they don't do it. So we'll have to see what happens with that.

I think what will probably end up happening because Summerhouse has now done filming, we'll start getting news about that. I'm sure we will, and we'll probably, I would bet if that's a thing, they'll start filming next year earlier. like that doesn't have to be a summer sale so why not do whatever probably want to get it out of the way before summer summer house exactly yep so that's that's what I'm thinking but again you know that's one of those things that will

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Keeping here to the ground for it. And the last story, which, you know, these two things kind of coincide, Brittany's got a new man. Uh, yeah, uh, Brandon, Brandon, Hanson. Hanson, yep. Now there's a lot of uncertainty going on there. And again, let Brittany do whatever. She's separated. I imagine they're not divorced yet. No way. Bravo divorce is minimum three years. Yeah, exactly.

So there's no divorce there, but they are separated. So let her date and do whatever she wants. But with her new man, which she's been spotted taking pictures of. Wait, a swimmer? No. No. No. He is not a swimmer.

That's Brendan Hanson. That's Brendan Hanson, the swimmer. Brandon. I don't know. This is literally today, so I don't know if Googling it is going to work. Well, you don't know. well i meant like he's not a swimmer no i believe i believe yeah uh okay there although good uh segue because maybe his boys are swimmers hey now because someone said some

fucked up stuff in the comment section yeah and it was interesting too and i'll read it but with this guy in particular of course as soon as it drops as soon as she's spotted with him as soon as she even indicates that she's got a new man people are looking find out who he is his wife gets on TikTok and says that's my man that's my husband Right I forgot about this

People then find out that they're actually separated And his friends and her friends And other people that are close to the situation Have come out and said They've actually been separated for eight months Much like Brittany and Jacks Have been separated for a while too And they're dating and they're allowed to date

Which we agree with If you're separated going through a divorce What are you supposed to just like That's what separation is for I believe Just Twitter your thumbs? your thumbs and you have to wait. No, that's not how it works. He can't get remarried, but you can date. So, no issue there whatsoever. However, stemming from those pictures, you get a little

little Bravo beef going on. You know, old Gigi come out of nowhere. Gigi coming out of nowhere, and I'll read her comment, and you guys can all judge for yourself on a funny thing real quick with this. Yeah, go ahead. It's the People magazine article. It's like, the Valley Star began dating Brandon Hansen after they bonded over their respective divorces. Yeah. Nothing brings people together like divorce. Yeah, exactly.

And the funny thing is that Brittany wasn't even the one who posted it, so it's actually kind of funny. That Gigi's just on like probably some blogger or people or whatever. Oh, that wasn't Britney's picture? No. I saw Zach go to bat for her. Yeah, Zach went to bat for her too. I'll have to find the exact thing because I've got a couple of things all in here,

for the exchange, rather, which Doty and Gigi went after. Doty stepped up and tried to help her out as well. Let's see if I can find Gigi's original comment. Here it is. Now it's a picture of the new man holding her from behind, holding Brittany from behind, and Gigi commented, no shade, but is she pregnant

too? I mean, he's holding her belly and the belly is definitely bellying. Woof. How do you fucking type that? Keep your thoughts to yourself. How do you type that and then press send? The first part, I actually like, is she pregnant too because of that pose?

I think you could be okay. No. It's still weird, but at least it's like, all right, there's a million people probably in those comments, and I'm sure 20% of them probably said the same thing. Because it is, you know, the stand from behind, prom pose, arms on the belly, type of situation. So it's like, oh, this is a pregnancy announcement.

That could have maybe gone over a little better. Belly's bellying is wild. That's crazy. That is crazy. That's like a cashier congratulating somebody on their pregnancy, and it's like, I'm not pregnant. Yeah, I'm not pregnant. Yeah.

It's fucking brutal. I don't know why that thought came to her head. Like, oh, this will be a good idea. I'll put this out in the ether. Like, what did she expect to come from this? Is there a previous beef between Brittany and Gigi we didn't know about? There is. Ah.

Not Brittany. Between Doty and Gigi. So she went after Brittany? You know what that happens? When? Exact show that we were at L.A. Oh, fuck. That's right.

Wait, we were there for that. Well, we were there, but like, I mean, I wasn't there. You weren't. I remember this, this, well, it seemed like, because we actually, we actually kind of like watched it back too and like try to figure it out or at least like read the comments. We were there, but like it didn't seem like that much. It was simply just that Gigi started talking about Randall. And Gigi said some comments about Randall and then Doty, who was still friends with Lala at the time,

I don't know really where the fuck knows where they stand now. It goes back and forth. Doty then took a stance against that and said, we're not going to talk about it. I remember it. It did happen on stage, but it was just, like, split. It was like, okay, whatever. Well, no, it was, since I remember, you were like. You could have been outside smoking a cigarette with Reza, too.

Yeah, you were crushing heaters with Reza and eight old-fashioned deep. Yeah. So, Gigi went first, and she said some shit. They talked about her for a little while. She was up there with Reza and Zach, and she took some shots at Randall, and I believe at Lala a little bit. I can't remember exactly, but then. when Doty got up, it was, it wasn't like a one-off. She, you could tell she was irked by the comment and she started commenting back.

And then I believe that night, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think somebody went on social media that night and said some shit. Probably. But so obviously, not on good terms in there. And Gigi will also be on Shah's Valley edition. I'm excited. So that'll be interesting. That's the new show.

Who knows when that's coming out. But they took it to the DMs. Oh, they went to. here because Doty posted the DMs. Doty commented and Senator DEM saying, why would you comment on a photo of Britney speculating pregnancy

as a woman and a mother fucking disgusting. Facts. Gigi's response, bro, you keep trying to come for me and I hate to say this to you, but I'm not the one. There's an image of that man holding her stomach. Isn't that what couples do when they're announcing pregnancy? Especially when the

woman's stomach clearly looks pregnant, so she doubled down, as a woman and a mother, it seems clear when there's a pregnancy announcement, but I guess I was wrong. I was clearly wrong. Now, with that being said, you and I are going to have major issues. Let me just make that clear. Don't ever call me names. I have yet to call you out of your name, but there's a long list of words I can share about you since it seems that's the game you want to play with me. Try to accept God into your life. I got to bring God into it. I can admit to making a mistake about that girl and be apologetic, but that's now a separate matter. Now it's you and me. So buckle up.

Teef. What a response. That's wild. That's soft. Good on Doty for just posting the fucking comments. Yeah, agreed. But like, I, any time somebody says the phrase, I'm not the one. You are the one.

Yeah. You're soft than baby shit in my opinion. That's, like, the dumbest thing you can say is doubling down. Yeah, what the fuck. Saying her belly clearly looks pregnant. That's crazy. As a woman and a mother once again, it is fucking gross. Yeah.

Like, what if someone said that about you or your kid? I just, I think that's. deplorable behavior and then to go in the DMs and start off with a bro and try to sound like a hard ass is embarrassing. That's an embarrassing DM. What you should have said is like, look, I, but there's no defense. I do you say the belly is bellying and then he doubled down. Apologize. Yeah. Say sorry. Say, whoops. Say my bad. I don't fucking know, but doubling down. A lot of things you could say. Acting like an asshole is not the way to go. This sounds to me like we're probably going to, because this always, always coincides.

Bet me we're going to get a Shaw's Valley announcement within the next two weeks. Because that's how this goes all the time. I wouldn't be surprised. I don't think so. I don't even know if they were filming. We didn't hear a whole lot from that at all, just announced the show. Yeah, I thought someone spotted them filming. Maybe.

I don't know where they're filming, though. Probably LA. In the Valley? It's Shaw's the Valley. I thought it was just a spinoff with the producers and they were going to do. Oh. I thought they were in the valley. Oh.

I don't know. They could have been anywhere as far as I knew. I had no idea. But this to me sounds like a set-up. A thousand percent right. Yep. Thousand-percent right. So I'm sure more to come in that regard.

Brittany hasn't really commented on it, but Zach is going after it. Zach was so fucking funny. He commented on it underneath of Gigi's comment, defending Brittany as a good friend. But then Zach went and put it on his story and said, I'm not really sure for some reason this isn't showing when you click on it, but this is what I said so that you guys understand my opinion. And it's very funny. And I love Zach.

But the reason why it's not showing when people click on it is because you don't have as many followers as the other people that are commenting. Like Doty is commenting. People are fucking seeing that and it's getting highlighted. Gigi's commenting and it's the one that started the whole thing. Yeah, it's going to show up. So he's like, I'm not really sure why this isn't showing. It's like, Zach, come on. Yeah, well, it says at Gigi.

No shade, question mark. I thought about not responding because I don't usually respond to trolls, but you're a troll who should know better, so I figured why not? Well, quote unquote, no shade, but your horrible personality is on display with comments like this, and that is body shaming, and you know it. Comments like this and unnecessary speculation over women's bodies is harmful and quite frankly gross. Good defense. Well said.

You know who didn't comment? Brittany's best friend Janet. With her private Instagram. She's probably still in Europe, you know, maybe it's a different time. And hiding. She's hiding from people because she thinks she's that important. I don't know what's going on. No one cares, really.

But this is exactly what we talked about at the end of the valley. Doty and Zach go to bat. Yep. On a picture of Brittany that was posted by like people or whatever the fuck it was posted by. Where's Janet? M. I, A. She's not going to, are you kidding me?

No. And then she's going to have some excuse for it in the season because hopefully Zach brings it up next season. That's a layup. Yeah. Where were you here, asshole? Uh-huh. And then she's going to give some crazy fucking reason.

and she's going to somehow be the victim She didn't see it. She was in the middle of it. She was having a nervous breakdown, so she couldn't. There was a rumor that Jason didn't have his wedding ring on. Jason got his tattoo removed. Who the fuck knows? And more importantly, who the fuck cares?

Yep. Stay in Europe, we don't have to worry about them for a little while. That shows not even... I just got like PTSD just hearing her head. We've got some time until that comes back. That's all the news for this week. I feel like that was a good chunk. Yeah, it was a good news, sish.

It's getting better at just, you know, elongating these. Yeah. They used to be like 20 minutes. Yeah. Well, making a full episode. Growth. Giving the people what they want.

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