Bros & Shows - Kenzie Got Some Splainin' To Do! (Love Island USA Full Recap Episodes 12 & 13)

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

What's up bros?? We have one question: do y'all wanna explore or just talk about exploring? They're gonna have to start throwing bombshells at these contestants because everyone's either too comfy too... early or they're afraid to make any moves because we're tired of hearing these exploring conversations with no movement! To be fair, we have some things going with two couples but Kenzie & Corbin can't carry us all the way to Casa next week. Let's get it together everyone! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I really like this cast. Top the bottom, I really, really do. I need more shenanigans. I need some wacky shit to happen. We're playing it a little too safe for my liking. I need a bombshell. We need something, I called it last time we reviewed it. I need two bombshells to come in before we get to CASA.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We got to mix things up a little bit. Yeah, I feel like the way that things are going, we're not going to get bombshells. And especially after this latest episode where they do the recoupling, I guess we're just going to figure out where everybody stands and what the fallout is. But even the fallout, like you just said, you need some shenanigans. The fallout's not that massive. So I'm interested to see where they go, but the way they've been moving, I don't know if I've got a lot of hope for some good chaos. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos.
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Starting point is 00:01:29 Kenzie and Corbyn. I don't know if it was like an editing thing, but did you get the weird vibe that we were moving away from all of the Melanie and sincere stuff and obviously really focusing on what was going on with Kenzie because that was probably the most interesting thing. But it almost felt like there were things happening with Melanie and sincere that we weren't really seeing or at least conversations with other people. Obviously, we would have seen if they were talking, which we did a little bit. but I feel like where we ended up after episode 13 with them,
Starting point is 00:02:01 something must have happened. There must have been more conversations about where everybody stays, what everybody's thinking, what else is going on with everybody to get to where we got at the end of episode 13. But we spent so much time talking about, and rightfully so, Kenzie, Corbyn, Caleb,
Starting point is 00:02:15 and then I guess Casey and Anaya sprinkled in there. But the rest of it, I'm like, maybe we moved away from Melody and sincere. Maybe they got the vibe that America didn't really want to watch them as much. Maybe because I agree. I feel like when we get that result at the end of 13, you would think that there was a lot of conversations going on or not necessarily between the two of them.
Starting point is 00:02:40 But like you said, where's the side convos of them trying to figure out? Because we had sincere talk about it a few times. But nothing that was like, there was never that smoking gun conversation like, oh, he's going to go back to Melanie. I knew he was going to pick Melanie. like I just felt it in my bones.
Starting point is 00:02:57 But at the same time, it didn't make a lot of sense to me as far as we saw you as soul. So a lot of conversations with soul. You seem to be hitting it off with soul. And then we recouple with the notes. And it's like, oh, well, what the hell happened? Yeah. Yeah, it's very bizarre.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And obviously for our sake, for our podcast, we're going to be talking a lot more about the other people because there wasn't a whole lot to talk about with those people. I don't I just I don't know I feel like the vibe is off right now everybody's talking about exploring but not exploring they're too afraid to explore and there's so many different components of exploring without the actual exploring we're having a lot of conversations we're exploring conversations is what we're doing right now we're exploring how you would feel if I explored is probably the best way to put it and you know that's not going to get you anywhere you're not going to find any new lands by not exploring and just talking about it forever So I don't know. I just, I look at the outlook as I obviously have to. I just don't know where we go.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I don't know what kind of shakeup we're going to get. And it's been a while since who are the last bombshells? Is it? Jen and Soul. Yeah. So I, I don't know what's going on. Are we not going to get any bombshells until Casa?
Starting point is 00:04:15 Because Casa starts Monday. That would make sense. That would not make sense just because with the lack of exploration, Like you said, there's a lot of discussion of exploring, but there's not a lot of exploring going on. I don't need to see a bunch of copacetic couples going into Casa. I need to see some mix-ups. And we now have Sol and Caleb together, which is fine. Bizarre.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But, like, I don't, we'll see how that one goes. But my whole point is, like, there's no tension now after the letters, right? Yeah. Because now everyone has chosen. and most of the people chose who they wanted to be with. There's only two outliers, Sol and Caleb, and they're lumped together.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Nobody's going to be exploring anyone else because we've kind of walled off. Once you have that big moment of like, I choose you and you choose me, no one's been talking to anybody else. Jen and Caleb talked a little bit, so maybe we'll get a little bit more there. But I'm looking around the villa.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I'm like, who's going to talk to who to kind of press people's buttons or maybe send somebody into a tizzy. I guess there is a world in which because everybody is now so sound in their couple that if there is some exploring going on between now and CASA, that'll cause more of a ripple. But I just don't know because I feel like anybody that wants to go explore is going to get a little smack on the hand. Like, hey, no, you don't do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:43 The only thing that I can think of right now, because a lot of this is more of the same, especially with Casey and Anaya, when they're sitting and talking and Casey's talking about exploring and talking about wanting to go have a conversation with Soul. He's using past tense. He's just kind of soft launching the idea of exploring, but he's honestly looking to the future as far as I'm concerned. He's thinking if a bombshell walks through that I just want to go talk to, I'm going to talk to her.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Not necessarily I want to go talk to Soul. We talked about this in our last episode. Between him and Bryce, I mean, Bryce, I think that was a one and done. But Casey was like, hey, I got to talk about exploring. I was thinking about exploring Soul. then he has the conversation with soul which leads nowhere now maybe you could convince me that because of where we end up after the end of episode 13 that because soul is sort of out on an island i mean her and kela aren't a fucking couple maybe that opens the door for kc to go explore but i don't
Starting point is 00:06:37 think that's what he's talking about i think he's just soft launching the idea of exploring in the future if a bombshell walks through and again i i feel like he wasted his opportunity there by going to talk to soul and that was really just to like show an i like hey i can go talk to other people if you want, how do you feel about that? I'm going to go do that. But again, very, very big waste of an opportunity. So outside of bombshells coming in, I don't really see a lot of shakeup. And you just mentioned, you know, Jen and Caleb had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:07:02 That shouldn't even be noteworthy, that conversation. Like, that's not, I know we have to talk about it because they had a conversation. And it's like, oh, this is new. But they were having like a bombshell conversation. They were talking about the two of them coming in at the same time. Where are you with your couple? Caleb's is obviously a lot sadder. There's nothing he can do.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I mean, Kenzie is just, she's enamored by Corbyn. Kenzie could obviously move a lot different. That's going to be the big bulk of our episode today. But for everybody else in terms of couples, like, you kind of have to shake it up. You have to force it. And at the end of episode 13, we obviously find out we're voting for our favorite couples, which means that we'll put a couple at the end, which is just kind of like, I don't know, it's a little gratuitous at this point because I don't think anybody's going to vote for Sol and Caleb.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Like, are we going to really vote them out because you guys paired them up after the letter thing, which was interesting and compelling. but they weren't a couple before that. So we're just going to vote them out now. It's just kind of silly. I would imagine that whoever gets voted off, like maybe send them over to Casa would make sense to me. I don't think if it is Caleb and Seoul,
Starting point is 00:08:01 that doesn't seem fair like you said because they got pushed into this couple. I'm actually genuinely curious to see that couple. Like I don't know. It could be so like we weren't even on each other's radar. Maybe something kind of clicks with the both of them because they've been exploring other options. They're both into somebody else. else and they both got burned.
Starting point is 00:08:21 So I don't know. I'm genuinely curious to watch their conversations next episode. But let's kind of jump in. And you guys know we like to jump around a little bit with these. It's a little more free form, which we enjoy. But obviously the big thing, we had the first hideaway experience. Every time we get these, it's just such a slap in the face of reality. Like, this show is fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:08:44 This is a weird show. Like we're literally watching everybody root and cheer them on to go bang. and then they go in the room. Obviously they hook up. They come out of the room. Everyone's cheer and they tell us all about it. Did you have sex? You know we did.
Starting point is 00:08:58 We didn't use any whips and chains, but we used a condom. That's good. That's good. The funny thing that I'm always going to pay attention to is just Zach and Bryce because Zach and Bryce immediately start talking about. He said, wow, we all worked out today. But like you didn't even need to work out.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You got to work out in there. Your arms looked great. It was just because I oiled you up, bro. That's why he looked so good. they're like, what is going? I like, send them to hideaway. Let them, honestly. I don't even know if they would hook up.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Just send them to hideaway and they'll at least get away from everybody else. You can talk about whatever they want. But yeah, I agree with you. And the hideaway thing is now becoming, we have to create a song every time. Like, you don't have to. We don't have to do it anymore. It's the same iteration.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It is always the same iteration. It was cool two years ago. And they, if you remember two years ago from people who watched season six, they also used like certain terms like, Clash Royale was like one of them that you would use to say that you had sex and you could use those terms and the girls had something else. Then last year it was like game on your phone. Correct.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yes. That was the you. I forgot you didn't watch these and sex. Yeah. Yeah. The boys used those terms like building a castle and things like that for like sexual innuendo. I like the girls use something else. Last year was a little bit less vague.
Starting point is 00:10:14 This year they're just like, yeah, what can I say? We fucked. Like, okay, all right, cool. We know we kind of saw it in a weird way. I think we saw more of Gabe and Jen than we saw of them in the hideaway, but, you know, whatever. But yeah, the hideaway thing is always just, it's bizarre to me. And again, it just kind of speaks to the weird psychosis that happens while you're in Love Island in the villa. I would love there to be a documentary about the psychological effect of being on Love Island and the aftermath and all of that.
Starting point is 00:10:44 even more so for like the beyond the villa people because they're still living in that bubble of love island it can't be conducive to your mental health like i'm actually no really looking forward to that documentary one day but the big thing in these two episodes is kensy because she's now with kaleb she's been making eyes at kaleb keelps her type everyone's been talking about everyone's excited about it. It seemed like when she got Caleb that she was going to put all of her time, energy, and focus into that.
Starting point is 00:11:18 No, no. She realizes, oh, man, I miss Corbin. My question for you before we dissect this whole thing, does she miss Corbyn?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Or does she really, really want to bang Corbyn? I think she genuinely misses Corbyn in a weird way. I don't know why I think that, but I do think that she genuinely misses Corbyn. they make a good point. If you just kind of look at the overview, and we talked about this a little bit in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:11:46 with the couples that were broken up and forced to be in a couple after the bombshells between Seoul and Caleb, they did break up a couple. And we thought at the time, like, Sincere was going this way towards Seoul. This is going to give him an out. That's going to work.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It didn't, obviously. Kenzie, we were under the impression because everybody was saying it. Oh, he's exactly your. type you want your cowboy and we already talked about him not being a cowboy but we thought that was just going to be a home run like all right yeah this is a no brainer and corbin has no personality i mean there were even jokes in the villa about him being a computer like he's rebooting he's figuring things out so they i love corbin i know you love corbin i think he's insane but i think it's just really
Starting point is 00:12:29 funny to watch because we all thought one thing and they went the opposite direction now when you really dig in deep to what Kenzie's doing. Corbin is being a dickhead at the end of the day. I know you love him for whatever reason, but he's being a dick. He's trying to hook up with Melanie and Kenzie at the same time. That's why he's saying things like, yeah, no, I feel like it would be disrespectful to give you a kiss right now.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But then immediately after he's like, I kind of want a kiss. I miss our kisses. I don't know what the hell this guy's thinking. He just wants to kiss both of them at this point. So I think he's kind of playing Kenzie. And he's trying to just get what he. can at this point because I don't think he really gives a fuck like the second that he goes to casa
Starting point is 00:13:08 that's going to be the first dude in line like you you might think that kc's going to be the first guy in line i think corbin's going to be the first guy in line i think kc's going to actually be the first guy in line but those two between gabe and corbin they're going to be first in line to hook up with everybody else because they think there's no repercussions to what's going on and i feel like with kensi she's putting it on after corbin says that she then puts it on melanie she's like oh yeah melody's moving weird i'm like well that's bizarre but you're getting upset at Corbyn for exploring his couple. But every time I see you and Caleb together and I feel bad for Caleb because he's just
Starting point is 00:13:41 trying to be nice and like wedge his way in there. And he knows you like him, but he knows you like Corbyn more. You're still kissing Caleb. You're still cuddling him and hanging out. And when we see you guys at night, you guys are making out in the bed. But every time that it comes back down to it, you're like, oh, I got to go see Corbyn. It's like, no, you're playing weird too. But she thinks everybody else is playing weird.
Starting point is 00:14:00 So I don't like her strategy. I feel like she's not being forthright with everything. obviously at the end of episode 12 we see the secret kiss like nobody's going to know about this right it's like ah don't do that because there's movie night and that's why we need to bring back movie night because if there's no movie night we're never going to see that and i want to see how that spirals out of control because we have to force chaos at this point so i don't know i don't like the way the kensi's moving but i do think she likes corbin i think she misses corbin i just don't think that corbin gives the fuck about kensi at the end of the day that's so interesting because i think i would argue
Starting point is 00:14:31 his letter and full shift back to Kenzie gives him some ground to stand on. But it was funny watching them on the dock and everyone's like sitting at the bar like they're kissing. They're definitely kissing. They actually didn't, which was surprising. I know. But Caleb, I feel for him. But at the same time, I think that part of him once he got into that couple was like,
Starting point is 00:14:57 I'm good because she wants her cowboy, here I am. everyone's been telling me. So it might have been other, like false sense of confidence because of people telling him, like you're good, dude. Like she wants you. Like,
Starting point is 00:15:07 you're a perfect man. And maybe he didn't push hard enough. Maybe he didn't do enough. And then it did feel like he was just kind of on the defensive the whole time. Like he would just have this mental struggle of this back and forth of like, that bothers me. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:24 Like that she's exploring. I can't be mad at her for that. In real life, maybe. But not that this would happen. in real life. So I take that back immediately. But I don't know. I think it makes more of a statement if you go over there and say, hey, let me pull you. Like, hey, she's mine. I agree with that. I, I fully agree with that. I think I think Caleb's been incredibly timid. And I do think that he got
Starting point is 00:15:46 a shit rocked as soon as he realized like, oh, wow, this isn't made. This isn't just an easy thing. Where I thought that I was just her type to a T. Now I can go do this. And this is just fine. and I can just kind of coast for a little while at least. Once he starts talking about like, you know, I just, I feel bad because, you know, we didn't pick each other. America picked us. So they saw something and they just thought that I was her type. So that's probably what it was.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It's like, no, you are actually right because I think a lot of us at home are thinking the same thing. Like, wow, did not expect her to actually still have Corbyn in play. But she's pouring it on with Corbyn versus the interactions that we see with Caleb. So I do think he was caught off guard by that. He got a little shell shocked. And that's why he didn't try as hard. Yeah, probably. Like you said, he should have tried hard right out of the gate.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Like, I'm so excited to be here. I've got Kenzie. Let me really pour it on thick. And I think that probably would have been fine. I think Kenzie would have reacted to that in a good way. But because he didn't, it left that door open for Corbyn, which I don't think he was expecting. And we definitely weren't expecting. So I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:16:43 It just, it gets very convoluted with all of that because I don't know if we're missing things or whatever it might be. It just seems like there's so much more spark, if you will, with Kenzie and Corbin than there is with Caleb. Yeah, and the way that she approached this whole thing, like you can say what you want about Corbyn, but at the end of the day, she's the one pushing all of this forward because on one hand, she wants her cake and wants to eat it too because she's trying to explore with Caleb. She's openly talking about exploring with Caleb.
Starting point is 00:17:16 But the minute that Corbyn tries to lean into his couple with Melanie, granted, that started off with Melanie sleeping in soul ties for two nights. So like immediately probably not going to work out. There was some smooching going on. We saw in one of the nights when they're finding like a little bit more than that. They were getting intimate. But for Kenzie to say to Corbyn, like, oh, you're, you're sparing her feelings in lieu of mind. Like, well, yeah, I mean, he's in a couple with her.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Like, you're not coupled up anymore. So, like, he doesn't need to protect your feelings. And I think that you're doing this to kind of manipulate the situation because you're pissed off. They didn't kiss you. All I got when she was on the couch talking to Corbyn, when they were in the room hiding from everybody, I was like, you're gilting him into kissing you right now. You're trying to say the right things to kind of like push the right buttons. Not that it's like bad. She's just try to, you know, get him to make a move. But at the same time, like he's in a couple and you're literally making him feel bad for not kissing you and having
Starting point is 00:18:19 respect for the situation. For the first time, we saw Corbyn not go, can I kiss you? He didn't want to. He did want to, but he didn't do it. And I thought that deserved some caduce, but then fast forward, we get to this moment. And that's where I was questioning. And I think it's, we're going to see it play out one way or another. I don't know which way it's going to go yet, truthfully. Part of me thinks that it's just exciting because, you know, she's with Caleb now. I think that she was bored immediately with Caleb. She's like, this is not fun. You know, it is fun sneaking her out a little bit. Going up to the room with Corbyn and smooching him when I'm supposed to.
Starting point is 00:18:54 to be smooching Caleb. That's a lot of fun. But Caleb, they disappeared. They're gone. Where are you? What are you doing? Don't sit at the bar and be the nice guy. Go. Go do go make a grand gesture and show her that you want to be with her because if you don't, a six foot five man is going to sweep her off her feet and take you away. And you're out. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be very interesting to see what ends up happening there because we know obviously Corbyn and Kay C or Corby and Casey, whoa. Corbin and Kenzie find their way back to each other after the letter challenge. If you want to call it a challenge, whatever that was at the end.
Starting point is 00:19:33 But the other piece of this is Casey and Anaya once again. Oh, yeah. Anaya is just, I don't know what's going on. Like I think I know what's going on. I think that the pressure is getting to her where she wants Casey to have fun. She wants him to figure it out and then come back to her. She probably just watched Bryce do that with Trinity because Bryce and Trinity are just back and they're good. That awkwardness lasted about seven hours, which thank God it did, because that
Starting point is 00:19:58 would be weird. I like Bracin Trinity, and I think that that works for now anyway. I don't know where that's going to go. But with Casey, it's like, oh, yeah, I want to do this. But I feel like she's misunderstanding me. She's upset at me because I don't take things seriously. And I do think that's probably part of it because she said that, what are you smiling at? And why you always have to have like a weird ass comment after things happen. It's like, that might just be who he is. But I think, I think Anaya is just so much in her head where she's watching him, even if he's not exploring with other people.
Starting point is 00:20:27 She's just watching him constantly. And she thinks that he's moving weird. And she's so worried that he's going to leave her, that she's not doing anything. And then she just gets upset about something randomly. So I think she just needs to get out of her head. I don't know how. I mean, if I knew how,
Starting point is 00:20:41 I try to send a bird or a pigeon over there to just let her get out of her head. Because I want to watch her have fun. I don't want to watch her sit over there and just second guess everything that's going on. Because I like Casey and I like Anaya. I like them separately. I don't think I like them as a couple anymore, though.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So I think that's just going to have to come to an end for that to work out. Yeah, I don't know. It's going to be interesting because I do feel like the letters cleared a lot of the tension. Because initially, when I'm watching the conversation between the two of them, this all goes back to a hypothetical scenario in which Zach said that he's not exploring because he feels like he's not allowed to. That's where this all came from. That's where she started thinking like, oh, I'm your second option, this, that. Yeah, Zach's a little shit's there.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah, he is. He's a little vanilla shitster is what he is. And he plays it off like, he's also a nice British guy. No, he's another one that's fucking soft launching, exploring. It feels like every conversation that you see with him and Kada,
Starting point is 00:21:33 you would think it was about like how fun hideaway was, how good their relationship is. It seems like every time Kada is like trying to get something out of him for like a compliment. He's just talking about like, God, it's just such a weird trip. Like I don't, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And then he goes to his confessionally. He's like, I feel like, you know, I got to question a lot of things. we got into this fast. And he says that to her in episode 13 too. He's like, yeah, I don't really know. I mean, like, obviously I'm comfortable, but like, I expected to be exploring a little
Starting point is 00:22:00 bit more. And I didn't. I'm like, dude, figure it out. Like, I know what you're trying to do right now, but I don't know how it's going to end up for you. He's mitigating potential damage is all he's doing. Because he knows, one, he's going to step out on Casa. Like, that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And two, all it's telling me, and it's under the guise of, you know, I'm just making sure that like, no, I ever get burned. It's all under the guise of I am waiting for a bombshell that fits my criteria and that has not happened yet, but it's going to happen. And I'm going to keep dropping this nugget of information to Keda over and over again so that what it does inevitably happen and I do inevitably go explore that bombshell, I can go and say, hey, I told you, I told you that I wanted to explore. I told you that this might happen. You can't get mad at me. It's like, no, no, she can because she's kind of all in. And she plays it off really well.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And credit to her, like when these conversations happen, she brushes it off and respect. But I do think that if he was like, let's close off, she'd be like, done, let's do it. So when you go and have sex and you go to hideaway and you're doing all these things, you're making these big moves, making grand gestures, you're honestly, disrespecting the whole process that you guys have been through by then the minute you get out of there and as the narrator says like post not clarity and then you're like oh man but what if somebody else comes in it's like why would you say that today like all the times to say that i think that's kind of greasy and i don't love that and i think that he i think he gets by with this nice guy
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Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah, yeah, I have no idea what to think of that moving forward, but with soul and sincere. Yeah. They, they just kind of stopped talking. Like, they still had the convoes. Like they were in, they went back to say less. Like they,
Starting point is 00:29:03 if we're assuming that there was conversations about Melanie, we have to also assume that he and Sol had combos. And not for nothing, but the conversations we did see, he is incredibly reassuring to Seoul. He says all of the right things. He did it again. He is the biggest talk boy in the villa.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yes. He did. Again, like he did the same thing to Melanie. And yeah, you're right. Like leading up to the challenge, leading up to the write a letter to your couple challenge or to who you want to be in a couple with challenge. That's when it started to heat up a little bit where we start talking about who sincere wants to be with, who Melanie wants to be with.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Like that's when we finally revisit the Cere and, uh, since, oh my God, sincere and Melanie. I keep wanting to stay stole, but, yeah, Cinecelony. Sincelany. Yeah. When we get back to it, it's like, oh, yeah, I kind of, I almost forgot about it. I'm like, oh, you guys haven't been like heated. There hasn't been nearly as many conversations with Melanie about sincere.
Starting point is 00:30:01 She's actually talking about Corbyn now. She finally moved from Soul Ties back to the bed. She's making out with Corbin in the bed. So I'm like, okay, maybe we'll finally just put this to bed and move on. Instead, it just starts heating up a little bit, but not enough to the point where I'm expecting that. Just enough to, like, give a little interest, like throw us off the scent. and we're going to have Melanie just standing up there by herself at the end of the day because she wants to go back to sincere.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I don't know. But I feel like it starts heating up a little bit, but I'm like, no, he's just being reassuring to soul. Like this is what he wanted to do, but he's doing the same thing. He's laying it on thick. Like, you know, I'm so happy. I feel like I'm just so safe in our relationship and we're figuring out if we like each other.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Our connections going strong. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure, whatever. So you better not do any fuck boy shit. And then he does some fuck boy shit, which again, kind of came out of nowhere. because we're used to seeing the leading up conversations where we get to see where they're at before this. And I know they want to kind of cloak and dagger that a little bit before we get there. But usually you have an indication like, oh, shit, this is really 50-50. Going into that challenge, I didn't have it at 50-50. I had it like 70-30. I'm like, you might do some shit where he goes back
Starting point is 00:31:06 to Melanie. I kind of expect Melanie because she's not developing anything with Corbyn to pick sincere, but that'll leave her up there by herself when sincere eventually picks soul. So going into it, I'm like, oh, it's 70-30. Like, this isn't going to happen. but the closer we get to it, I'm like, oh, they are going to do this. This is bizarre. Yeah, I was pretty confident that they were going to do that from the jump. Like, I just had this feeling. And it's textbook toxic couple.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Despite everything, despite the fact that Melanie. They didn't get mad at each other for a couple days. Exactly. Exactly. So they're like, they're playing the highlight reel in their head. Melanie, you're finally with a dude where you're both kind of mellow. You're talking. There has been no.
Starting point is 00:31:48 tension whatsoever. You've been smooching in bed. Things are kind of nice with you and Corbyn. Sincere. You and soul, if you had told me you guys have been dating for two years, I would believe you with their rapport back and forth. Yeah. So you guys are both in better places.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And despite all of that, you just can't resist getting back into this. And it's going to be a fucking meltdown, and which I'm actually looking forward to, because sincere has shown us who he. is. He is not his name. He is insincere. And you know damn well, he's going to do some fuck boy shit when he gets to Casa. He's going to be second in line next to Gabe. And he's going to play it like, you know, this is what he gets, how he gets away with it. Because he leans into like, this is like the process. I'm here for me. And like, I have a big heart. And I don't want to hurt anybody. It's like your actions tell different. Because to me, it seems like you are selfishly doing
Starting point is 00:32:47 this for yourself in a way that. It's like, I want to hook up with everybody. I want to, if I find somebody that I'm into, I'm going to go for it, which, yes, that is the point of the show. But you don't have to go into each conversation saying all of these very romantic, very grand things where you're really reassuring. He's very, very good at reassuring despite the fact that there's nothing to reassure. Like, I just watching would have been like, yeah, he's going to pick soul. in my heart of hearts, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I was like, you're going to get back with Melanie. It's going to be a cluster fuck. This is going to melt down. Again, looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But you've shown us your true colors, man. Like, you're not going to be all in on that. And you guys are going to get into it next episode. Shit's going to hit the fan. You're going to go, oh,
Starting point is 00:33:34 damn it. You're going to go and have a conversation with Soul to try to clear the air. She's going to be out on you, I hope. And it's going to be an absolute disaster, which again, looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah, no, I am really looking forward to that. And really the only couple that we didn't even talk about it all is Jed and Gabe. I mean, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I don't think that either of them really have the personality to get involved in anything else. I do think Gabe is going to do some shit where he gets to Casa. I do think the next bombshell that walks through, he's probably going to flirt a little bit, probably trying to get a kiss, just speaking Portuguese to them.
Starting point is 00:34:09 That's what he does. But they're just outright banging in the bed. Like, that's what we're doing at this point. I love to watching Trinity and Bryce, like pop their heads up like what the fuck is going oh shit and they have to zoom in on like his underwear at the end you know what's going on yeah it looked like they got more action than uh than zach and kada got in hideaway i mean they're just they're just outright doing it i guess that's what we're doing here but yeah i mean everybody else is just not a lot of news to report
Starting point is 00:34:32 everybody's just kind of floating there so by the time that we get to the letters and the letters are they're nice i do think that most of them had help right in their letters i i don't think that that's their words i love that they call out the chat gp t I think that they're like, let's get the producer in here to try to help us write some things. Because I do think that's the real challenge was the reading challenge. The open reading challenge is probably the big challenge for a lot of these people who are going through like, what's this word?
Starting point is 00:34:59 What are we? Yeah. Love. Oh, it's love. Oh, you love me. That's nice. That's really nice. But yeah, by the time that we get to that challenge, like I said, the only couple of things that you can kind of look at or you're waiting for, rather, is where are Melanie, soul, sincere,
Starting point is 00:35:14 where are they going to end up. Kenzie, Corbyn and Caleb, where are they going to end up? I also thought that somebody was going to go home, but then I remembered that we were going to have a vote after. Even numbers. Yeah, the vote doesn't really, again, make it fucking any sense. Like, you're now forcing two people who were rejected from their couple in dramatic fashion into a couple.
Starting point is 00:35:35 We're not going to have enough time to see if they have anything before we vote because you vote right after that. And they haven't been in a couple before. They should be exempt, to be honest. and they weren't, but they should be exempt from the vote because I just fully expect them to be at the bottom because we haven't seen them together. Now, it doesn't seem like there's any fuck shit going on where people are trying to actively vote out Kenzie and Corbyn or anything. So I just don't expect that. I just expect Sol and Caleb to not really get any votes because they're not even a real couple.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It might be the Islanders can save them situation. You know, it's like if you want to like save them, you can. But then they'll do bottom two and that you get one. you get to save one couple. So maybe they get saved. I don't know. I don't know. That's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I don't think anyone needs to go home yet because I need, I need something to happen before people start going home. Right. But I do want to go back real quick to the Casey and Naya conversation because I got sidetracked and it just came back. Her big thing like we talked about was that she didn't feel like the number one because of what Zach had said, little shitster. He got me.
Starting point is 00:36:40 He sidetracked that bitch. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on you, pal. I see you. I see through you. Oh, that was the other thing that pissed me off when they were doing the soccer challenge.
Starting point is 00:36:50 He's like, it's called football. It's like, you don't fucking watch it. Yeah, dude, stop it. But with Casey and Anaya, when we go to have that conversation, like, do I understand where she's coming from where it's like, I need you to like lock in for five minutes sometimes? Sure. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:05 But he's been telling you ad nauseum, you're my number one. You're my number one. I always choose you. I always choose you. I guess I didn't understand what more he could have done, really. And like, I'm genuinely curious from like, I know we're two dudes and we're seeing from a dude perspective, very curious what our audience thinks.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Like if you guys sound off in the comments with a different perspective, we'd love to hear it. But from where I'm sitting, he was saying the right things. He was trying to reassure her. I do think that I just think that she got in her head with the whole thing, which is probably super, super normal being in a situation like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, totally. But yeah, like, that's why I was glad the letters happened in this episode because it just seemed to me like they were just missing each other. And it wasn't like a like relationship altering thing that was going on. Yeah. But, you know, I don't know. That's that's where I was sitting going, I mean, he's telling you that you're number one. He said it a lot of times. And then you're like, I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:38:08 If you go talk, go talk to Saul. I don't give a fuck. I was like, well, he did. And he didn't really say anything. and then he said to do he was smiling he was smiling but he said to every dude in the house
Starting point is 00:38:18 like I'm kind of over the soul thing anyway it's like okay so like I just didn't know what more Casey could have done to like probably from my perspective I've got nothing I don't think there's anything more that he could have done and I also think
Starting point is 00:38:33 yeah from a real perspective in the real world you could probably look at things that Anaya could say differently or accept differently or Casey could do differently but it's the show. I mean, again, we haven't seen much exploring. Everybody's getting very complacent.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I don't even want to say that they're getting cozyed up or locking into their couples. It seems like the majority of them are just complacent. It's these passive aggressive conversations about exploring, I think are all terrified to do it. I know. Yeah, and that's a little bit of what we saw. Actually, it's different than what we saw last year. Last year, they actually did lock into their relationships. And then when they figured it was too late to explore, then we started seeing the panic.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And they're like, oh, I don't really know what to do right now. this is way different because it's still early on. This is pre-Casa. We still have a lot of time left here. You should be exploring. They're all wanting to explore, but they don't want to make anybody else mad. And I would say pretty much every guy there wants to explore.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And that's pretty much where we are. A couple of the girls are like, I don't understand why you want to explore. Like it seems like we have a good connection. That's where they're missing. Everybody just seems to be missing each other. But until somebody ultimately makes that move and there's no big judgment on the other end, whether it's a guy or a girl going out to explore,
Starting point is 00:39:44 that's going to be make or break. If there's big judgment, no one else is going to fucking budge. If there's not big judgment for whatever reason, then it's like, oh, maybe this is okay to do. Otherwise,
Starting point is 00:39:53 we just need CASA. I agree. I'm ready for CASA. If they do movie night and then CASA, that could be ideal. I don't think so either. They would have to do movie night this weekend, yeah. Yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:40:04 I don't think it's going to happen. I'm just saying if you want to light a fuse in this house or in this villa, show that and then. go to Costa because everyone's going to be like the score and X going into that. Well, a bunch of new hot bombshells coming in. I, yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:18 I agree with that. I think the move and we both agree on this is to get some bombshells in there now. Yeah, 100%. And then you can go to CASA because if you do movie night too early, you're not going to get the CASA experience. That's true. You'll have,
Starting point is 00:40:31 there's so much that happens there or that should happen rather. It didn't happen last year. There's so much that should happen there that then you get movie night when you go back to your couple and that's a big thing. So I think they just need like, Give me one bombshell each. One guy, one girl. Throw them in there.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Just throw some hang grenades in there. Two dudes and one lady. Like, yeah. We're just two dudes. Yeah, or just two dudes. Yeah, bring two guys in there and fuck the guys up. I will say the guys are definitely more confident with where they're at than the ladies. And they need to get rattled a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So yeah, bring in two smoking hot dudes until Kasa and just see the chaos ensue. That would be ideal. I'm in on that. Yeah, for sure. I'm very in on that. But let's get to some questions here. From Natalie K.K.K. Hill or Khalil.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Okay, hot take, McKenzie is sincere but girl version. I agree with that. That's a good point. I think that she is kind of moving the same way that sincere is. Yeah, I like that a lot. And it's really funny. The difference is that Kenzie moves how she's moving,
Starting point is 00:41:37 but then gets mad at Corbin for exploring. which was very funny to watch. And the Caleb of it all, I don't know, man, he's going to have to change up his game plan 150% to be a bombshell and come in and lock in on one person because everyone there said that you're her type.
Starting point is 00:41:54 That's just bad gameplay. Yep. From Gold Gina, which couple did you both vote for last night? I voted for Bryce and Trinity. I wrote it for Bryce and Trinity. I love them. There we go.
Starting point is 00:42:06 There we go. Zoe Cudla-Pole. Would Gabe have gone back to Bia or stayed with Jen. I think she would, I think he would stay with Jen to be honest. Yeah, you would to stay with Jen. I don't think he really liked paying it that much, really. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Jamie Gibbs. Steele, would you cater to Sincere Melonies wedding? Oh, that was the one thing I didn't talk about. When they wrote the fucking letters and Sincere wrote that letter to Melanie, he said, I could already picture our first date going down to Penn's Landing. Ben's landing in those stinky ass fucking hammocks. Yeah. You can't do with that?
Starting point is 00:42:39 They have those hammocks. had those hammocks for years now. They use the same hammocks and they actually have to get people to stay out of them. There's just, you know those things just stink. Yeah. So again, but neither of them are actually from Philly and that's the funniest thing.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Like she's from North Philly. She moved down a long time ago. She doesn't know what's going on in Philadelphia anymore since here's from Cape May. Like he comes up to Philly like once a year probably. So when they talk about Philly, I always laugh because they're like, ah, we're going to have a great time on South Street. Like no one goes to fucking say. I mean, people go to South Street.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I noticed that too when they said sounds like South Street. All right, tourist. No. Yeah. It's very tourism vibes. And now they're doing the same thing with the hammocks down at Pennsland. They're going to go get a fucking Gino's cheese steak and they go to South Street. No.
Starting point is 00:43:24 That'll be the icing on the cake. Ugh. Oh, from Rachel Ray. This is boring. When did it become exclusive islands? I agree. Yeah. We need something to shake up here.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Last year it did. And it's funny. We had comments on YouTube people saying they didn't do that last year. I was like, what? Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did. Am I crazy? No, people have short memories with the show.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Let's see. Sokna, L-O-8, Corbin, but this is an acronym for Corbyn. Computer-operated robotic Bluetooth intelligence nanobot. Yep. Love that. Nicely done. Yeah, Lord Tennant. Corby.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Oh, really? We got a better one. Yeah, I saw that one on Twitter already. Unless that was you originally tweeting that, which I doubt it was. But if I'm wrong, correct me. Uh, Lord tenant Corbin deactivate sleep mode. Yeah, seriously. He's got to recharge.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Uh, Jamie Gibbs again, what iOS version is Corby on now? Uh, he's catching up. He is catching up. I've seen some quicker conversations from him. He doesn't take so long to spit it out. He's so funny, dude. I think he's great. Uh, Mikey White is Kenzie about to be a real problem?
Starting point is 00:44:34 She is. Yeah, I think so. The best way. Like, that gave me a lot of hope, actually. I was like, okay, like here we go. We finally have an agent of chaos in this house. And we need it. We need another bombshell to come in.
Starting point is 00:44:47 That is actually the cowboy that has a little bit of a bad boy attitude. And that's going to fuck everything up. That would be awesome. Yep. Sarah Guy, 2021. Is KC. going to pull a tailor from last season next week and connect with somebody new at Casa? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I could see it. I could definitely see it. Yeah. And then I'm going to feel for an eye. because I want her to, I love Anaya. And I think that she got a bad shake with, she needs to explore. Yeah, I just want her to be able to find her man and like be able to,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I just feel like you look around right now again, we're so exclusive that it almost feels like if anybody wants to explore, it's like you're cheating on somebody. Yeah. You're like a party to an affair. It's like, no, it's still, I'll play this game that they've been playing the whole time. when they try to, and you can tell that they feel guilty having these conversations. That's why everyone force feeds.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Well, still early, still early. Because you're trying to like soften the blow. I will play that card here. It's early enough where you should be able to go and have conversation with. Once the last time we had an actual like, hey, let me pull you. I mean, they do that, but it's. But not with, I mean like, hey, let me pull you. I want to explore you.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I want to see where this goes. Not, hey, let me pull you. to talk about my connection. That's what we're seeing last week. Yeah. Yeah, too. That's too long. Too long. Too long. But we'll end it on this one because it's funny from Christine D. Philippus. This is my first season
Starting point is 00:46:21 of Love Island. Are we supposed to like the Islanders? Maybe I'm too old. You're supposed to like a few of them. There's definitely a few in there that you're supposed to like. You're supposed to let and the ones that you quote unquote don't like. You're looking for things that help the show. And that
Starting point is 00:46:37 can make you like somebody you don't necessarily. like you know what i mean like you're looking for somebody that's going to move the needle in the villa that could be a total asshole but it doesn't matter you're you're we think about the show it's a show perspective correct yeah uh obviously night off tonight uh then we got Thursday Friday Sunday after on Saturday Casa starts on Monday so there's Casa Sunday Sunday is Monday I believe Monday okay yeah it's in theaters so we need something to something's got to give we need some crazy shit we need bombshells if we don't have bombshells between now and casa i'm worried that the next three episodes are just going to be us
Starting point is 00:47:20 watching couples hang out together and i don't yeah that's that's going to get boring so we'll uh we'll get an episode out over the weekends from uh from our favorite moments from over the weekends and then yeah right into casa i'm excited for casa but that's all i got you got anything else nope well that's our show Joe, Rob Bros are out of here. Life moves too fast. Scrolling, swiping, headlines, sound bites.
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