Bros & Shows - Kyle is Finally in the Hot Seat (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

What's up Bros? It looks like Kyle has finally found herself up against the majority of the group. Boz plans a Sisterhood Serenity Soiree for the ladies in hopes to bring the group together. After Garcelle tells Boz what 'the text' said, Boz takes that info directly to Dorit. The rest of the ladies are also very skeptical of the contents of their texts after hearing the infamous line 'i've never shared anything we've discussed and never would'. Dorit and Garcelle have a genuine moment, and while it may have been a move by Dorit to secure some support, it did feel like a real apology and a real chance for these two to finally move forward. Boz questions Kyle about the text and Kyle gets flustered almost instantly. Rather than understand why the text is an issue, she causes a scene and storms off inside. She stands firm that she's done nothing wrong and now takes a victim stance saying the rest of the ladies should be ashamed and 'how old are we?". Erika is the only one defending Kyle (shocker) and she eventually reads the text to the group. After a brief one on one with Dorit where Dorit gives Kyle a chance to come clean very calmly, Kyle continues to maintain that the texts were never about Dorit...Kyle contradicts herself about 30 times this episode. Portia gets a Porsche for her 16th birthday. Dorit and Erika sit down at the end so Dorit can question her defense of Kyle... Give your home the refresh it needs with Wayfair, just head to Wayfair.com. Every style. Every home. Want more exclusive content? Join the Bros Membership Program by clicking the link below! Get access to exclusive episodes, weekly livestreams and more! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. So my biggest problem is that we've had multiple people comment and say we're really getting tired of the Kyle hate. I'm not trying to do that every episode. She makes it really hard to discuss anything else in this show. Who's getting tired of the Kyle hate? This is the takedown of Kyle Richards.

This is what we've been waiting for. Now people are turning on us? They're saying, like, one person literally said, I don't care for her either, but it's getting to be a little much. I didn't even think we were that much. We're just commenting on what she's doing. Listen to any of our other podcasts on any of the other shows. I guarantee you there are people that we dislike more than Kyle. Yes, without a doubt.

Bros and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your ghost. Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only shooter Magouter.

What's up, dude? Oh, not a lot. over here, just getting ready for the birds in the NFC championship game, you know, hanging out in my nice comfy sweater, just feeling good. You can see the turnaround. He is officially not hung over anymore from Sunday, and he's a chipper little boy because he's going to the game on Sunday. Which means, you know, some sort of shade of miserableness on Monday is incoming, but that's

just the ebbs and flows of the life, you know? That's what it takes to be part of the team. Uh-huh. You know, so it is what it is, but we are entering Bros. and shows 2.0s. We got, you're watching on YouTube, if this worked,

we've got actual cameras in the studio bro now. Hopefully the quality is a little bit nicer, and hopefully I didn't have a total meltdown trying to edit all of this together because I don't know a whole lot about editing. I taught myself how to do the basics to get our shit out there.

I've gotten better at it, but there's multiple cameras now and recording devices. So it'll be a fun night. I'm sure I'll get a lot of rest. Why don't you just ask that stupid AI thing on Twitter? Is that thing called GROC? No.

Ask that thing. I'm good. I'm sure that works. Yeah. I'm good. I don't need. Don't, you know. Oh, God, don't.

It's been a rough. Rough, you guys. I wasn't going to say anything else. I know. It's just. Come on. You know me. I stop.

We're here for Robha. It's Robha Day. Let's not talk about other stuff that's going to make me mad and sad. Let's talk about Rob Her Day. Yeah, it's Rob Her Day. because we're here to talk about a little holiday. I mean, you could argue that it is, but we're here to talk about Beverly Hills

in yet another episode of hypocrisy and confusion and no accountability. It's getting really frustrating. I'm enjoying this season. I think we've been talking about for a while waiting for people to finally stand up to Kyle. You almost had a declaration in this episode from Sutton about the thing.

So it's a good season. It's just the scenes with her are arguably very frustrating for me. They're not frustrating for me anymore because now she's caught. That's the thing for me. So, yes, in the past, the last two seasons that we've covered, she's had, there's been a ton of hypocrisy, there's been a ton of hiding things, her not addressing any of the rumors,

her not addressing any of the things that we've seen on camera. That was very frustrating because people weren't calling her out. Now I don't care about her confessionals. Her confessionals are almost her burying herself even deeper. while everybody else on the cast is getting the power and you can point to different people that are giving power obviously to read is number one but there are other people stepping up now

and they're ready to take her down. I think it's you can only put up with so much bullshit for so long and we've seen it over the years and for a very long time she got a pass because she's aware she's the HBIC on this show there is no disputing that especially with the departure of LVP back in the day she's a standalone and she knows she's a standalone

And up until last year, it was when we started to see a little bit of a shift. We saw some bullshit three years ago. She was just annoying. She had a tough run that season. Last year, she seemed checked out. And some people are starting to get annoyed with her behavior. And then this season, you're seeing a full-blown, we're tired of it. People are standing up for themselves, which is all we've really wanted.

And it's not, I don't know. I could get into it. I don't need to see a takedown of Kyle Richards. It's just what she represents as I'm on. touch you, well, I'm going to do what I want, say what I want, lie, and take no accountability. And no one's going to challenge me. If it was anybody on any show with that kind of air about them where they seem like they're uncheckable, I want to see them get checked. So we're getting that. But she's been in that state of mind for so long now that

she's making comments in this episode alone that indicate to me that she doesn't even know how the show works. I don't think she knows how to defend herself. I don't think she knows how reality TV works. Perhaps. She's been on cloud nine forever. And I untouchable, that now that people are coming to check her, she doesn't know how it works. Like, we don't show our lives on this show. Yes, the fuck we do. That's literally what you do. And it's interesting that you brought up LVP because isn't Kyle doing, especially

this year and over the last couple of years, everything that she accused LVP of doing? Yes. Yeah. Again, the lack of accountability and hypocrisy. If you go back and watch confessionals with Kyle, if you go back and watch your interactions with LVP on the show, a lot of statements that she made in regards to Lisa Vanderpump, You could literally flip the mirror and be like, dude, look at yourself. You're doing a lot of the things that you perpetrated on her.

Yes. That's annoying. And there's been a lot of people in the last couple of years when this show has struggled that have been calling for LVP to come back. Now, I don't know if it's the same people that are putting things on the internet now saying you guys need to stop with Kyle. All the Kyle hates being too much. It probably is because there is a crossover, but that is part of this.

Yes. Yeah. And interestingly enough, there is something making the round. right now alluding to a potential LVP return based on something Andy said. I didn't see or hear the clip. I didn't either. So I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't think, if we want to speculate right now, I don't think LVP comes back to the show.

She doesn't need it. So here's why they think that it actually is plausible. Okay. New VPR coming out. Uh-huh. New cast. Uh-huh. Gets her back in the spotlight, allows her to promote that, which, I mean, I don't think

it's going to need a whole lot of promotion. I think most people are going to give that a shot to see what they have. But it does open the door. it makes sense for her to come back because the show is at a point now with their lead cast member in Kyle struggling. LVP coming back into the fold now could be one of the

better moves for the show and the network. People have wanted LVP back for a long time. We want her back. Everybody wants LVP back. And the other thing that we have to think of is Van der Pumphill is coming back at some point. There is no announcement. I'm looking right now. It looks like the first one premiered in April last year so maybe we can shoot for a little springtime release for something like that.

That'll get us going. So, yeah, I can see it from that side. I just think that she has enough going on as an EP and she's going to be in the new VPR a lot. Yeah, because that will be the, here's the new cast, but here's LVP. She's going to have to take on the matriarch role once again. It's going to be even more.

She's going to be like, it's going to be LVP plus what Patricia does on Southern Charm. Yeah. That's how much we're going to get. at LVP. But if you go back to like OG seasons of VP, I'm so glad we're talking about Vanderpump rules now. That was the dynamic. It was a lot more Lisa early on. And then she slowly kind of phased out. And then obviously towards the end, she was few and far between. Maybe they'll make Ken the Patriarch this time. Oh God. I would just have him walk in

and deliver one-liners and then walk out. It's all we need. Yeah, literally all we need. But let's get back on track here. Let's dive into this episode of Robha and we start out with bows. And she's having a little sisterhood serenity swaree because she says Sutton's idea was good. The execution was poor. You could argue that. You could put that on Sutton's gravestone at some point. That's literally the best description of Sutton. Well-intentioned for execution. Correct. Got too rattled and said mean things. Yes. Yeah. So

she's running it back. She's going to have a little party at her house and she faced time to Reed. And this is why I really like Bose. She's no bullshit. She's not going to waste time. If she hears some shit, this is what I think a real friend is. Yeah. Because she got a hold of some information about the text between P.K. and Kyle. Because Kyle decided to read it to Garcell and Sutton, as we know. And then was it Sutton that told her? Oh, Garcel. Garcel went over to Bose. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And she told her the contents of that text. Instead of sitting on it, she just brings it to Doreat's attention immediately. And she says, we've got to talk about this text, because there's definitely more to it. And before she even says what was in the text, she just alludes there's

more to the text message. Doreko, that's so strange because Erica, who is also present for the reading of the text, which sounds like a sermon or something. Everyone gather around for the reading of the text. Erica said, it wasn't that big of a deal. You got nothing to worry about. I was like, ooh, that's shady. Very shady. Now, I look. at this two ways. And Erica's involvement pretty much throughout the entire episode was a bit of a conundrum for me because we've been

asking her to do more and stop being so checked out. Stop excusing yourself from things that are going on with the rest of the cast. She's at least getting involved in a weird way. I don't know what the hell she's doing because I don't agree with what she's talking about. She's in the middle ground but she's not. Yes, agreed.

But she, you know, she's been there for Dorete this season, which has been nice to see. She's also trying to be there for Kyle, which is nice to see. Again, we see it towards the end of the episode. Kyle's going through some real shit. And that's the craziest part. If she took a different approach this season and just focused on that and not this weird approach with the reed, she'd garner a lot of sympathy. I feel bad for her during those scenes.

So I understand why Erica is trying to be a friend to both. Erica sees these two women right now as two women going through a whole lot of shit and she wants to be there to support. That being said, the allegiance clearly leans towards Kyle. So I think that's, she's stuck in the middle, again, of her own doing, but I think it's her trying to be supportive. But she definitely has a Kyle bias. She definitely has a Kyle bias, as we see, and we talk about that a little bit later on this episode. But why I say it's of her own doing is because she really hasn't been opinionated. And I think of a real friend as being there for both of them.

You are also a vet on this show. You know that people are going to start talking about this. There were other people at that table. Sutton's going to sit there, and her and Garcel are going to start talking about it. it. Now Bose knows, which Erica might not be privy to, of course. She needs a podcast, by the way, I'm downplaying it and saying, I understand what you're doing. You're downplaying it in a normal situation where you're saying, yeah, you know what, it really wasn't that big of a deal. Can we just put this to bed so that you and Kyle can either fix your

relationship or just focus on what really matters and not get into some, like, banana, or not get into any squabbles over everything that really doesn't matter right now. But this is a reality TV show. Kyle just read that text message, which undeniably is bizarre. Yes. Yes. And Erica not understanding that and then trying to downplay, you're putting yourself right into the middle of this and you're going to put yourself right into the crosshairs of Doree. Yeah, I'm going to save my

breakdown of it until we get there because there's a lot to talk about with that. There's so much to talk about this whole episode. It's crazy. I paused this shit more than I paused any episode this season of any show. Because when shit started to heat up, it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Even last week, Salt Lake at the dinner's Even last, yes, because this was like, that was sequestered to the dinner table. Right.

This was throughout the episode. It was just because of the multiple angles of this same event. I'm trying to get everyone's perspective at once. And it took a lot of pauses. You can ask Dev. That's fair. Dev was very patient because I paused like every three minutes. Good job, Des.

Des. Deves? Whoops. Should to let that one slip. Des Bryant came and watched the game of my house. Yep. But anyway, we get Kyle and she facetimes Rick, but really Kathy, and she goes over this Doreet fight. And immediately the hypocrisy starts because she goes, all these years we've been friends.

Well, that's news to us because you're telling news networks and media outlets that you're not. So there's strike one. But she says, and this is strike two, I was always cool with P.K. We were friends for 10 years. Doreet knows our relationship. And now it's a problem? Yes, because they're separated, and so are you. The dynamic has shifted, and the fact that you can't see that without people explaining it

is alarming, to say the least, but it also shows you the headspace that she's in. Yes, this is different now. They are no longer together. That's a problem. It's shady shit. So she's got two strikes already. I'm going to keep track throughout this episode of her strikes. And I'm going to try not to go off.

Are we stopping at three or? No, no, no. Multiple outs. Are we going for a perfect game here? Oh, yeah. Let's see how many innings we get throughout the. this game, all right? But we get to Bose and Nico and Candice, who's the event planner, and they're doing a little party prep. It's going to be a nice healing day. It's not going to be

too serious, you know? And you get Jennifer Tilly. They could put Tilly on every scene. She needs more. We need more Tilly. They should have a show just called Tilly and just follow her around. I don't know if she would do super well in a show just called Tilly. I think she's perfect for what she's doing right now. She's great in this role. I think she needs to be at every scene so that she can reject randomly with different comments. Yeah. But she doesn't need to talk the entire time. I just love the constant reminder of,

oh yeah, Jennifer Tilly, look at her. Yeah, and she always has... That's perfect for me. Her self-awareness is great. Her situational awareness is great. Because when she drops the one-liners, they're always good and, like, well-thought-out, and or funny because she's besties with Sutton,

but she'll still even acknowledge, like, yeah, that Sutton looked like shit there. Yeah. So, yeah, maybe she's perfect for this role, but it's just every time she's on the screen it's such a delight that I kind of want more but I see what you're saying. But Tilly, Sutton, and Garcel are headed over to Bose.

They're in the car. Bozes. Bozes. Bozes. Yeah. Okay. Bozes. They're headed over to Bozes.

And they're having a little chat about the text. And Kyle's holding on to the fact that these texts are innocuous. And even Tilly, who doesn't probably want to get involved in shit, she's like, I think he's doing more than Mims. There's definitely more here than Mims, okay? You remember the rapper Mims? That's the first thing I feel like that. is why I'm not. Yeah. Yeah. That's the first thing I thought of. But to all of our Canadian listeners, do you guys call them Mims? She claims because she's Canadian. Or did Sutton say she's

Canadian? Cutton. Oh, my God. Oh, that sounds so bad. I know you didn't say what I thought you said. That just sounds horrible. Sutton, yes. What do you think I said? No. Carry on. No, yeah, Sutton definitely said it. She made the excuse for her. Yeah, 100%. I don't think that's a thing. Ontario, the weight is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget online casino is live, bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience right to your fingertips. Whether you're a seasoned player or just starting, signing up is fast and simple. And in just a few clicks, you can have access to our exclusive library of the best slots and top-tier table games. Make the most of your downtime with unbeatable promotions and jackpots

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We all have to get on with our lives any. way. Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. Even in Canada. No, it was a nice thing to cover for, but everybody arrived to the house, and as Dorit's coming in, she goes to a confessional. Everybody else in this group is now privy to this text message. They've talked to Kyle about it. They've talked to each other about it. The only person that does not know is the only person that needs to know. Yes. Derreet. So she's already pissed off when she walks into the house.

And she takes a jab at Kyle's outfit. She goes, is that comfy? Is that a comfy wardrobe? I thought I was supposed to be comfy. It's great. Yeah, that's perfect. She's good this season. They meet the chef.

And then we got manly hands, which is a massage service. Did you think that I, what I thought, which was, it was just a description of what was happening? We're going to have some manly hands here. I'm like, oh, okay, that's cool. I did. I did. their covers for their massage tables have MH on it. Okay, that makes a lot of sense.

They did actually confirm it in a bit, I think Garcel did actually. Oh, no, it was when we were talking about Garcel being very acquainted with the manly hands. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. She knows manly hands very. That's what it was confirmed. But before then, I was like, oh, we're just going to have some manly hands over here. That's cool.

There's a much manly man coming in. But, yep, no problem with that. But Dorit and Garcel, mid-massage, Derreite approaches Garcel. As we know, up and down. relationship. You got all the microaggressions of the past. You have the interaction earlier this season. And that's what Doreet wants to talk about. What I like about Doreet, so I'm constantly this season comparing Doret to Kyle. Okay. I'm keeping, yeah, and I'm seeing how they're moving because both of them needed to make changes, right? Both of them needed to adjust to certain

things, take accountability. That's the big thing. Both of them have things that they need to be held accountable for. So I'm watching how they're responding to that. Doret takes it upon her to go up to Garcel and have this conversation and say, hey, when you asked me how I was doing, was that real? And she says, yeah, I wouldn't ask you if I didn't want to know. And Doreet's response is, look, that response out of me was more about me than it was about you. It was the moment. It was Kyle. It was everything built up. Insecurity based on our history, things like that. All of that. So it came out a little bit harsh. I apologize. And Garcel says, I'm sorry and I feel sad for you and adds a little bit extra, which is important because I'm sorry, I feel sad

for you is just sympathy, but I'm sorry, I feel sad for you. I've been through a similar situation, and you know what? I'm here to offer advice if you need it. I'm like, this is really nice, actually. And Dorit follows it up with, I apologize for seeming like I haven't been open or understanding to certain things. I know I need to be, and I'm sorry. This might be the most clean-cut apology we've gotten. Garcel hears her. acknowledges it, accepts it, and receives it, and goes to her confession, goes, Doreet 2.0, I like this. Let's move forward. Great move by Doreet.

So smart. So, this is a move. We're in agreement, right? Oh, yeah, this is a move. Incredible move. It's a move. She's moving. We said this in the first or second episode, as soon as this started bubbling over between

Doreet and Kyle, Kyle has alienated a lot of the people on this cast. Yes, we could see Erica, which we've seen in this episode, and people can go back to our first episode. We did say, we can see Erica being on Kyle's side. I don't think anybody else is going to be firmly on. on Kyle's side. There's going to be a lot of wishy-washiness until somebody finally figures out, okay, I need friends.

This is what we're seeing right now. Kyle is continuously alienating people because she thinks she can do it on her own or she doesn't think that she needs anybody else. She's above them. She told Bose last week that she has a million best friends too. Maybe she's got best friends off the show. I doubt it. She's friends with Kesha.

Yeah, there you go. We've got Kesha. Who needs anybody else? But Dereet here has, we asked how long she can sustain something like this. she has been so succinct she's been so to the point she has been making moves now because she knows what she needs there are people here that don't really like kyle and if kyle keeps acting like this they're really not going to like kyle but they don't necessarily like to read who's my biggest adversary garsel let's go over there let's try to squash it see what happens

i'm going to apologize sincerely it worked it worked i do believe the apology was real i think it was too you can kill two birds with one stone as we established yesterday yeah we've we took us while to get there, but we did figure that out. But Bose and Kyle have a little conversation. Again, this is why I love Bose. No bullshit. Straight to the point. She's like, let's talk about the P.K. text. And she's like, I don't want to read it to me at my house. But then you went ahead and read it to Garcel, Erica, Jane, and Sutton. So as we know, Bose, super smart. She recognizes exactly what it was. You knew I would have an issue with it. So you did not read it to me at my house. You also knew that those three women are in your corner for now.

Yep. So you knew you wouldn't get backlash from them. So you went to people that you knew would agree with you, read it to them, kept me in the dark, that's bullshit. And she even goes, I was like, what the fuck? Read it to me. So Kyle summarizes the text. To her credit, she did not leave out the part.

I thought she was going to leave out. I thought she was going to paraphrase and then cut that part. Yeah, the paraphrasing was brutal to begin with. That's why I was like, oh, God, she's going to cut it out. But she didn't. I had the feeling that she didn't want to take her phone out of her pocket because she thought that somebody was going to steal her phone to read it out loud. Probably.

That's what it seemed like to me. I'm like, God, you really do think you're in middle school right now. Yeah, she, like, genuinely gets uncomfortable. She looked uncomfortable and then Sutton. Oh, my phone's in my car. I can't really read it. That's what I thought she was going to pull. Like, Sutton bops over and sits down.

She's like, what are you doing? Why are you here? Like, what, you're too close to me, man. Back the hell off. Which tells you that she's on edge right now. And she wants to know why Bose wants to know. This was strike three for me, by the way. strike three because you realize that you you went to Bose's house last week to

politic you went there to try to drive a wedge between her and to reet because you feel like they're becoming friends maybe you can get ahead of it maybe you can start bad-mouthing to reet to her friends not not gonna work no not with Bose but you'd feel uncomfortable when Bose asks to read the text message that everybody else has now heard yes no doesn't make a lot of sense doesn't make any sense her defense of this is you don't know my relationship with to read she does because duet talks to her so is every fucking media outlet because you offered that information, which was false information because you're constantly contradicting yourself.

100%. But Sutton emphasizes, like, you opened your phone. We didn't open your phone. You opened your phone and decided to share this text message with us. Why you chose this one, like that's the craziest thing to me. Yeah. If you are sending memes, I'm sure you are sending memes amidst the texting, go screenshot a meme instead.

You screenshot is something that implicates you. So Sutton says what we're all thinking. You're the one that did this. You brought this text to our attention. You need to answer this text, and she refuses to discuss it. And now she's upset. And Kyle's just overthinking and coming to the wrong conclusion, too. Yes.

Like you just said, if you just took a screenshot of memes and said, this is what we do. This is all we do. You could have left it at that, but I think she's overthinking saying, oh, shit. Like, if this comes out, I'm going to look really bad. So I better show a little bit of something here that might get me a little bit of hot water, but I can say, look, it was an innocuous text. message. And then she goes on later to say, you know, it was about production or whatever the fuck bullshit. She decided to pull out of her ass at that point. But she wanted to give a

little bit of skin, a little bit of blood just to say, hey, look, you know, think what you want about this, but this is what we talk about. I'm just being a good friend. Yeah. Didn't work. Not at all. Nobody was asking for that. Correct. And it, the one text you choose to share is not innocuous. It's innocuous. Ocuous? Ocuous. Is it Ocuous or innocuous? I hope it's Oculus. I don't know which one Oculus Prime. Occuous Prime. Yeah, let's go with Oculus. You guys are going to tell us we're stupid in the comments. So just let us know. Let us know how dumb

we are. But Kyle storms off, sobbing. She's like, I can't deal with this shit, whatever. And Erica, Eric, is like, she did nothing wrong. And I'm like, whoa, whoa. I know you're trying to play Switzerland here, but you just cross

the line there. And now you're on her team. You can't honestly hear that text and not have questions. If you want to stay neutral and just be inquisitive, it's fine, but to say she did nothing wrong, declare it, when you're also a support system for Doreet is kind of fucked up.

So, Erica goes to comfort Kyle, and Kyle's sobbing, like uncontrollably. Like, similar, this is almost an Emmy moment from Southern Hospitality, which tells me again, you're lying. Yes. Yeah. You realize that you feel bad. You've realized that you did something

maybe she doesn't feel bad. She realizes that she did something wrong, and she's going to get called out for it. That's what she's afraid of. She's not afraid of being a bad friend. She's afraid of looking bad and being called out for it. Yeah. But Erica does save herself a little bit because she goes on to say, you don't owe anyone anything. I'm like, what? And then she goes, except Derreet. I'm like, okay. Yes, agreed. And I think that that's what she should have said, by the way, overall. When you're on that conversation with Derreet yesterday and we see that FaceTime and you say, yeah, it really wasn't that bad. There was nothing showing or there was nothing bad about it at all.

you should have said I'm going to talk to Kyle about just showing you the text message too so that we can squash this if you really wanted to be in the middle and you really wanted to just put everything behind everyone that's what you would have done yes you wouldn't have tried to downplay it right so she kind of saved herself a little bit here but we all knew that to read eventually had to hear exactly what it said we can't paraphrase to to read she deserves to though like that's my whole thing it's just she deserves to know whether your friendship with PK is on the up and up or not correct you're texting her husband while they're separated as her friend you owe her an explanation for that yeah

Kyle says I don't owe her anything it's like well that's the wrong approach man and she says I'm gonna read it once and I'm getting a fuck out of here I'm sick of this shit I'm over it one thousand percent yes and so Kyle goes and I know that everybody's gonna hate me after this so I'm gonna say I'm gonna leave regardless yeah like it's just you're setting yourself up but she goes to the group then she addresses everybody and again sobbing saying I can't do this anymore. I'm leaving and she's like, please, please let me get it. It's like, no one's really pushing you right out. No, even to

read who should be upset about this is talking very calmly. He's trying to calm you down. She's trying to calm you down and she's trying to be there for you knowing fully well that she could take this text message very wrongly or very correctly depending on which side you're on and get upset about it too, but she's there to make

sure that you're okay and you're still continuing this charade of being upset. It's shirad. It's crazy to watch. what transpires next because she reads the text aloud and when she gets to the never shared part and wouldn't share, she

stops for the first time acknowledging this part of the text because up until this point it's almost as the whole text is innocuous and now she stops and pauses and goes, I know what you think that means, but it's not what you think it means. It's like aha, strike four. Guilty. Yeah. This is a bad

explanation. The fact that you stopped and it was almost, I'm sure she knew where the problematic part was previously but this made it seem like after she read it out loud she was like oh that's what they're stuck on yeah yes this is what we're all stuck on because it implies that you discuss a lot more than mims and laughing emojis laughing and mimjis a mimjis oh boy we'll get to the laughing emojis too that's even fucking weirder yeah his response oh god yeah i don't he's a fucking weird oh bro but her explanation for saying what she said was i was i was

talking about production. I was talking about this overall. With a wall break. It shuts everybody down. Yeah. Sure. No, that doesn't make any goddamn sense. And Garcell's like, all right, let's break this down with our, with our detective hat on. Devil's advocate, detective. If that's what you were doing, the text would mention production or it would mention cameras. It would mention the show. This is a personal private conversation alluding to personal private things. Yeah. There's no other way to decipher this. No, there really isn't. And she doesn't have to say I get that, you know, she might be alluding to production in this.

And maybe you can spin it that way. But it's Kyle. Yeah. That's not what she's doing. No. None of this makes any sense. Why are you protecting his secrets from who? I don't know.

You are not married to this man. No. And you were friends with his wife. That's the whole thing. Or you weren't friends with his wife, which is even weirder. You're protecting the secrets of a man that you're now claiming that you were never friends with his wife to begin with. Yeah. And it's all overblown.

But he's your brother. He's my brother. He's my brother. That's why I'm protecting his secrets. But by the way, that whole media thing where I was trashing me and Doreet's friendship and downplaying everything and saying that I wasn't even friends with her to begin with. Yeah, I'm still brothers with her husband. Nothing makes sense. You have to realize how crazy this sounds now, Kyle.

And again, we admittedly, or Kyle has admitted that she does not watch the show. So maybe she doesn't. You probably should read back. You'd understand. And look, I understand that you've considered. controlled the narrative for years, so maybe you didn't have to watch the show. Oh, yeah. You should watch this season.

I think that it would do her a lot of favors if she watched this season. But let's talk laughing and mimjies because this is when she acknowledges that I send the laughing emoji. The fact that you're over explaining emojis is all right. That's strike five. Here's strike five. She goes, he gets mad if I don't respond. Bizarre. alarming.

Yeah. That's a fucking massive red flag. But also, I've never known P.K. to be mad. Nothing she says

makes sense. She constantly, she will contradict herself within 20 seconds. It is crazy to me. And the fact, like you just said, where she's over-explaining

the use of laughing emojis, nobody asked that. Not one person. You did not have to offer that information. Yet you're holding on to this man's secrets. Yes.

But you're going to say some shit like this? Yes. None of it makes sense. It is so hard to wrap my head around it except for Kyle is so goddamn guilty of something

else. There's got to be so much more to this. This is the tip of the iceberg. It has to be. That's what like, and that's the problem with her approach is like all you're doing is causing us to speculate as much as we possibly can. My brain is going every which way. Now I'm like, are they

doing creepy shit together? Like, maybe they are. Why is she so defensive? And strike six, we got two outs now because she's like, I'm fucking done. I loved you. I loved P.K. I loved your kids. I was like, I thought she wasn't your real friend. Pick a lane. Watch the show back, for the love of God. Watch some game film so you know. And then also, you'll see P.K. last year being a fucking dick to Dereet. So you'll understand

where that's coming from when she says, what she says when her and Kyle go outside. But before we get to that, Doreet, Erica, and Kyle walk off because Kyle, after she lets all that go, she storms out goes, I can't do this anymore. I don't want to do this anymore. Causing both to say the loud of the protest and tears, the more guilty she is. Absolutely 100% correct. But then to read Erica and Kyle go outside to have a little chit-chat.

And now Kyle's full victim. Full victim. Strike 7. It's disgusting to be made to feel like this. You brought it on yourself. You've done it to a lot of people, too, in the past. I know. There is video footage of you doing exactly that.

She's never seen it. This is so content. This is why I was so frustrated all episode. I'm like, oh, my God, pause, write down, pause, pause. But she goes with the juvenile approach. How old are we? Everyone should be ashamed of themselves. Why, dude?

Why everyone here, except for you, seems to adhere to Girl Code. All of them agree this was a breach of conduct when it comes to Girl Code. They're all just trying to get you to the same place of understanding why this text seems a little shady and for you to just flat out explain what's going on with the two of you let us read the text if it's nothing there should be no issue with opening up your phone but the more that you like kick and scream about it at our age what are you talking about but durie just wants to pull Kyle away let's go have a talk you and I she's been very calm throughout this whole thing I think she genuinely thought they'd be able to sit down and have

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Yeah, but that would require some level of self-awareness that Kyle doesn't have. Yeah, you're right. Pretty much what we've been watching for the last couple of years is just a full portfolio of Kyle not having self-awareness. And all the reasons why she doesn't have. have it. So we're asking her to do something and you boiled it down perfectly. You guys are going through the same thing. Yes. Going into this season, if you didn't make those remarks about Doreet and your friendship, it would have made a lot of sense if you guys could have gotten through this together. Girl power, it would have been nice to watch. You guys could have just said,

fuck the dudes. Let's try to move on and we'll be able to lean on each other. Instead, we see Dorete leaning on Garcell, saying that Sutton, you know, offered to lean or have her lean on or whatever you might have. Didn't last that long. But still, all of the of these other people on the show who have had problems with Doreet in the past are offering it. You haven't once offered it. Not once. Now we're talking about you talking to her ex-husbands, her separated husbands.

That's bizarre. That's all it is. And that's all that we want you to at least acknowledge. Like, hey, you know what? I should have had better foresight. I should have understood. Instead, you won't take the responsibility. There's no accountability with Kyle.

It's all of the things that we've been saying for years. Now it's just everybody else on the cast is pointing to Kyle saying, what the fuck are you doing? Correct. That the audience has been doing for years. Correct. So it's hitting that final culmination, and you're still seeing no change from Kyle.

That's why it's frustrating. No, it furthers in this scene because she's like, I told you I wouldn't text him anymore. And she's like, I thought we were good. I told you I wouldn't text him anymore. You yelled at her that you wouldn't text her anymore. Granted, she yelled at you too. So I'm not going to say that she was completely clean there either.

No, but she was okay to be pissed off about it. 1,000 percent, yes. And Doreet clarifies what we all already know. What you would think Kyle would know is that was way too little too late. I had to question you about this. You guys were having secret conversations. And I had to pull it out of you. And then, only then, after I caused a scene at the Viper Room,

were you remorseful, quote unquote, and said you wouldn't do it anymore? Sure. That's too late. That's not the same thing. And Doreet even points out, a girl's girl, as Kyle claims to be, would have cut this whole thing off at the separation if you truly were a girl's girl concerned about your friend but you're not and you weren't so derit starts to talk about pk's demeanor how he lashes out at her she calls him like the monster when he gets in that attitude

Kyle's response immediately sucked she's like I can't picture that's like hmm that's fine I'm sure deride hasn't seen moby in her marriage right like you don't know what goes on behind closed doors just furthering the narrative that you've picked pk That's it. That's all. You're not doing yourself any favors. You're being called out for potentially having a little bit too much of a weird friendship while they're going through this. You didn't choose to read.

You didn't ask her to lean on you. You're talking to P.K. And sending a memes. You could have ended it there. Now you're answering on P.K.'s behalf. Why? You're a victim blaming Doreet. Yes.

It's crazy. It's nuts. You are making your own casket now. Her casket has been built. Yeah. Now she's getting the nails ready. Yeah. The hole is there.

The casket is built. She's got the nails ready. Yeah. She's getting ready to nail herself into the coffin. And this statement, we're on strike eight, by the way. I wasn't calculating six and seven. We got the six. I didn't calculate seven.

It was in the past. It was actually when, just for continuity's sake. Just for the hos of you keeping score at home. Yeah. Is the girl's girl thing. And when she says, I told you I would stop. Yeah. That's too late.

That's strike seven. Strike eight. The biggest strike of them all, honestly. is this statement. And this is exactly when I started questioning, okay, how deep is this relationship? Right. What is this relationship?

Are you guys being weird with each other? Is it a little bit more than friendship? Because she goes in a confessional, and as you said, victim blames goes, I've never seen that out of PK. Is Doreet using this moment to paint PK in a bad light? I was like,

are you fucking kidding me right now? She's got concern for her best friend, for her brother. But you're a girl's girl. She won't let her do that. Look, hey, Kyle texted P.K. And said she's going to keep it all off camera.

All your secrets, all the stuff that we talked about, it's not going to make it to camera. Now Doreet's trying to paint you in a bad light. I got your back, buddy. I got you, homie. That is insane. It's ridiculous. And there's so many things to,

if she watched the show, again, the therapy session last year, the K's attitude when they got dinner this year. The fact that, and there's no way Kyle doesn't know this because you know Doreet confided in her because she confides in everybody. when P.K.

Up and leaves for three weeks to go to London. Does Kyle not recognize, like, oh, that's kind of fucked? Like, it just makes no sense. She's clearly just trying. She's like, my husband, too, travels for work. Right. And now look where both of you are. Correct.

Draw the parallels. Use your thinking power. Put on your thinking cap. She doesn't have one. Reasonable. Like, just, oh, it's so frustrating. But, Doreet, I thought throughout this whole scene was very composed and I think she's just trying to further the conversation without Kyle getting up

and leaving and she brings up the never share anything she says like that doesn't feel right that's a very delicate way to put it like dude come on when you say I would never share anything that's weird no and she's like that's not it's not about you it's like she didn't say that you said that right she didn't say that now you double down and say it again she goes he doesn't about your relationship. Very calmly. Yes, he does. I love, I actually,

this is my favorite scenes from Doree. It was just disappointment. And it was calm. It's like, you're just lying to my face now and I can't handle this, but like, come on, dude. She repeats it again.

She's like, no, we don't. We don't talk about you. Yes, you do. So calm, to the point. And like you said, just an air of disappointment in her voice. And her defense in the confession

was great. She's like, he shares with everybody. He talks to everybody about our shit. And also, to further this, P.K. would go over to Moes when Kyle was there and talk shit about me to Kyle, and Kyle would talk shit about him. How do you know that? Because he fucking told her. Got home and told her about these vent sessions, which is also strange. Very bizarre. You're not a girl's girl. And this is all stacking up evidence.

That's the difference between the two sides we have here. Exhibit A, Threat with evidence, support. Exhibit B. Kyle, with evidence, denying the evidence. Correct. That makes no fucking sense. No, it makes zero sense to me. Here's strike nine. Here's out number three.

So we're out of the first inning. If you know my character, it's been 10 years. You know it's not just memes. Oh, got it. So Doreet should have implied or should have inferred that, of course, they're sending more. I shouldn't have to explain that. I've known him for 10 years. You've known her for 10 years.

You've known her for 10 years. it's not just that it's also that oh wow we got a pen toss where to go i don't know and i i'm low on pens that was a little short-sighted by you huh yeah i hit the window pain too it's louder than it's really cold out too fuck if i crack yeah no i think we're good all right anyway it's not just the fact that you've known each other for 10 years it's that very very recently probably within the last couple of days whenever the hell the viper room was you said it's you said it's just memes. You said it's just memes. What are you doing there? I don't know. Are you just trying to protect yourself in front of the rest of the cast by saying, hey, Doreet, I'm telling

you in a group setting, it's just memes. But when we get to sit down and talk together, because we can definitely have a sit down conversation about this, I'm not going to hide. I'm not going to start freaking out and crying and running away. When we do have that sit down, I'll explain to you a little bit better. You know it's more than just memes. We talk all the time. I don't want the rest of them to know. The rest of those idiots, that'll make me look really bad. Yeah, I don't want to look really bad on my show. Come on. It's Kyle Richards at Beverly Hills.

Come on. It's just so fucking stupid. It makes no sense. Every time there's a chance for her, and Doreet is giving her a lot of chances to redeem herself. A lot of chances to just come clean, feel bad, and say you're sorry. Yeah. She's just digging a bigger and bigger and bigger hole for herself. And I agree with Doreet, like, it's just disappointing.

That's it. Like, I'm just disappointed. I feel bad. more patience than anyone else that I would ever, which is surprising. I didn't think she would. The fact that she's been this composed, this whole season is baffling. Baffling? It's absolutely baffling. But Dorek goes through a confessional and says,

I think Kyle's got so used to lying through her teeth about me and I don't believe she's honest with herself. This was probably hitting the nail on the head. I don't think that Kyle knows how to be real. And I think that hit the nail on the head. I think there is no better way to describe what we see out of her because what her reality is is not the reality of everybody else

and I understand it's a reality TV show things are played up things are dramatized all of that we get that but just her basic understanding of what the situation is why she could potentially be at fault is completely out the window

I do believe in her heart of hearts I don't know if Kyle thinks she did anything wrong yeah I think she knows what they're pissed about but she's like nah it's not a big deal like you guys shouldn't be like this is ridiculous no you shouldn't see my phone why why can you not show Doreet what's in there that's all

it says yeah there's definitely more in there her reaction tells me everything yeah like she's so everything she did in this scene yeah tells us everything that we need to know and she ends it with everyone's focused on this now in her confessional not what she did

to me what did she do to you Kyle what did Dorete do to you honestly like I would love to know is who knows what's this referring to nothing probably nothing it's it's just nuts like she she her claim of what dureate did was not be a good friend to her yeah look i get there's ups and downs and friendships i understand that and maybe you didn't feel supported by dureate last season you guys had some hiccups along the way fine that is not grounds for what's happening

here it's definitely not grounds for you to start playing victim out of nowhere when you're the one being held to the fire. Right. It doesn't make any sense. Like, all they're asking for is accountability, but she completely, completely throws it out the window. And she says she had to pull something out of her hat to take the focus off of her. It's like, not really.

No, she didn't. The focus wasn't on her. And she didn't bring this up. You are texting him. Everybody is asking you about said texts. The funny part is the one person that should know, is the only one that's not talking to you about it until now and at the Viper Room because you refuse to give her any info you can tell everybody else but not her strike 10 yeah but first before we

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But let's finish up this scene because Dorek goes back to the group and Erica jumps in to defend Kyle, which Bose calls out in her confessional and says, what the fuck is she doing defending her when Doreet's the one that needs support right now? Kyle's the one that did something wrong. And Boe speaks up to the group and it's like, look, I'm in conflict resolver because of my experience professionally. I resolve conflict or else things don't run efficiently. So let's figure this to fuck out. I see Dorete in conflict with everybody, which is funny. And Reed's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, bitch. That was funny.

But Sutton speaks up and says, I think she just, she saw an opportunity. And again, are you even sure what Sutton said? Because I have no fun. I know exactly what she said, yeah. No, no, I know what she said, but I don't know what the hell she was saying. Oh, no. I think that she just saw an opportunity. Again, well-intentioned, poorly executed.

She's like, look, we're not friends. Pause, long pause. To be continued. But we will always be able to sit down and be okay. agreed. This cake's yummy. Like, yeah, whatever. I just had it out with Kyle. I kept

myself very composed this entire time. I know that I'm in the right. This is not your moment, Sutton. Nope, but you know whose moment it is? Dilly, if not a success, unless someone leaves crying. I'm like, God damn it, you're awesome. Oh, yeah. A high five.

Dilly. Way to go. But we get to Kyle and her girls. And again, bro, these scenes are fine. These scenes are great. But it's hard for me. work hard, great. It's hard for me to resonate. Not that part. No looks happy. They're going to Europe. Oh, looks a lady. Great. Yeah. It's just more so

watching the transition period in her life. Like, that's where I can give her some sympathy and be like, all right, you are going through a lot. But again, wouldn't have been more helpful to get through this by talking to your friend, not her husband, who's going through the same shit? You would think. You would think. But she's still so hurt. She's so hurt, but she's going to put on a happy face for Porsche's 16th birthday. Moe arrives. and they're going to Europe, whatever. And pretty much all we get to see in this scene is Porsche gets a Porsche. Sweet.

What was your first car? Oh, Flipper. Well, it was my mom's car. Yeah, but, you know, still. My first car was like an Accura. Okay. All right. Yeah, you know mine, Sally, the Trailblazer.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Not a Porsche. No, no, but that was what I was thinking. I don't care how rich I get if I get rich. I could be this level. I'm not buying my kid's first car as a port. I'm going to buy them a piece of shit

so they could beat the shit out of it and learn how to take care of their car. I mean, I don't know. I don't run a billion-dollar agency. It's not that this is what we have to talk about for the scene. Nah, that's fine. Nah, it's totally fine.

Because maybe you could have like a sit-down with Moe and Kyle where they decompress and talk about what happened at the party. No. Why would we get that? That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

I'm stupid. Look, I'll take all, I will sum up one thing that I could have had from the scene. And again, I would have a lot more sympathy and empathy if she focused on this stuff where it's like, yeah, dude, this is a tough time in your life.

You're going through a whole lot. A lot of changes, empty nests too. I think she's trying to do that. In these scenes alone, but when she's with the other girls, like you have to take account of it. Never mind, I can't keep, I can't keep doing it, but we get to Garcel and Sutton. And you're seeing statements being made now.

Now people see the line in the sand. They're not liking, I don't think Kyle realizes how detrimental this texting could have been with her relationship with everybody else, because they all seem to be on Doreet's side. Well, they just gave her a pizza party. She's fine. They gave Erica a pizza party.

They gave Kyle a pizza party. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's because they feel bad about everything going on in their marriage. They did feel bad. They don't anymore. No, because Sutton's like, look, I got an issue with Kyle storming out because she hold me to the fire. She holds everybody else to the fire.

We go to that clip of last season when she storms out of Magic Mike. And Kyle comes up and goes, the storm out was a little excessive. We agree. We agree with that one. Yep. But you just did the same thing. You call. everybody else out for it, but when you do it, not only do it do it in grander fashion,

but there's no issue with it. Correct. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. No, it doesn't make any sense to me because obviously it is, obviously it's a very, very much so a double standard, but it comes to Kyle, as we've always known. But it seems like she's speaking for a lot of people watching. We've said this for a couple of years. It seems like Kyle thinks she's better than the show.

And Sutton says she thinks she's above the group. Nobody is. hell yeah that's how a reality TV show should be correct but she for whatever reason and we saw i mean especially last season last season was the most like nose up at the whole show that we've seen she was so checked out but in this season you're 100% correct sutt and i'm glad that she calls her out for that it's about goddamn time that somebody did that and garsell points out we got shamed somehow at the end of that whole thing kyle's saying you should all be ashamed of yourself like that's crazy we didn't do anything wrong we're asking your behavior their question

You're questioning you, dude. They're questioning your, but they want to figure out what the fuck's going on with P.K. in the text. Yep. And Sutton declares, I, Sutton Strack,

will not bow down to the altar of Kyle Richards. I'm like, fuck yeah. Everybody do this. Everybody needs to have a seance. We are about an episode or two away, though, from Kyle blaming everybody else in the group for her downfall of a friendship with Doree.

Oh, without a doubt. Yeah. Yeah. You guys, you kept poking their nose in. For sure. Yep. We were going to talk. Should have just left us alone.

We would have been fine. we could have been there for each other, but instead we have to deal with this. No, you. Because of you. But Erica and Doreet had to get some facials at a very pretty salon. And I wonder if this was a prerequisite for the job as the, I don't want to be belittle his position because it seems like a fancy salon.

Yeah. The gentleman helping them. Okay. It's very self-spoken. Just fill out this form right here. Will I get you all set up? I wonder if that's part of the interview. Yeah. No, I agree. I was getting relaxed when he was talking, but I wonder if like when they'd do the interview that's like, let me hear your soft voice.

Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. What if there's bad ones? Like, I want to fall asleep right now. Just feel it out here. Nope. Get the fuck out. No. So they're getting facials and Doret's upset and Doret's upset and Doret's upset and Doret's upset. And Doret's trying to do with Eric's in the middle, again, leaning slightly towards the Kyle side of things. And Doret's upset that Eric didn't stick up for her when they were at Boses. And all Doret's trying to do. in this scene is to get Erica to admit that she understands why there's an issue here. Just, hey, can you at least see what's going on because she's like, Kyle's trying to use this whole thing as a cop-out

and it's pretty straightforward. She's trying to use production, cameras, whatever, that me and PK, you know, we wanted to keep it off the screens. That's her big hold here. And Dorete doesn't need Erica to say, I'm on your team. She needs to say, do you get why this is suspicious? And Erica's, I see it both.

ways. This could read two ways. I don't see how this reads two ways. I don't see how it reads two ways either. And I understand, again, we talked about this at the beginning of the episode, what Erica is trying to achieve is being able to bounce between the two. But you're doing a terrible job at it. Yeah. Because you're showing much more bias towards Kyle. And Derreet, again, she can clock that. Yeah. She's never been able to do this in the past. So this is very new for all of us watching this. The fact that DeRate's able to sit there, not jump all over Erica, not completely blame her for anything, not call her out. out, but sit there and just say, look, I don't see it that way. I don't understand how you can see it two ways. I don't understand why you're taking Kyle's side in this, because when you said something to me about the text, you said that it was completely fine. It's not. I read the text. I know what the text says.

It's not fine. And Erica still is trying to maintain that middle position. Kind of. Sort of. Yeah. I mean, even, like you said calls around and says, like, you only don't call like you see it with Kyle. You're shrewd.

You're intelligent. you call people out for their shit but when it comes to Kyle it seems like you protect her yep and we have seen that out of Erica in the past we're seeing it right now yeah we did we called it out in the first episode and again but I didn't expect Doreet to go to a confession say Eric is scared of Kyle I'm like ooh that will come back probably because Erica doesn't like to be framed as being scared of anybody or anything Dorees on a tear right now I don't yeah she's to reach on a heater but Erica confessioner goes I need to bow out of both friendships or actually no she said that to read to bow to both of these i'm like honestly that's

probably for the best yeah either you need to be impartial or just can't be impartial no tap out yeah that would be the correct thing to do you can't be the confidant to both no and that's going to put you in a worse position right and that's kind of where we're heading too i feel like maybe erika made the right move by saying that at the time when she said it i'm like all right that's a bit of a cop out a bit of a bit of a that's good to know it's a bit of a cop out it's a bit of a bit of an overreaction. I don't think you need to bow out of the friendships or say or announce that you're going to be doing that. But otherwise, based on what we've seen, you do show bias to Kyle. And if you want to be this confidant in the middle, you're going to have information that you

want to tell the other person because you're a friend. That's going to put you in a really bad position. Being in the middle right now, not the best call. I don't like the wording. But yeah, you do need to take a step back from everybody. I agree with that. I think it just gets her out of the bullshit. And at the end of the day, the only way this is going to get solved is if Kyle and Doreet sit down uninhibited and just have this fucking conversation but it ends with Dorete saying all right because Erica goes

I don't want what you're saying to be true I'm like okay there's the root of it right so you can see that it could be the other way because I know you imply it could read two ways but that sounds like you believe Kyle and Doret goes if it is true will you be okay with it

and she says no end of episode that is the right question Yeah, it's a great question, and I'm glad that she said no, and I think that in her head, what she's doing, Erica, is like, she doesn't want this to be true so bad that that's why it sounds he's protecting Kyle more, but I don't even know what's going to happen this season. I'm curious. I'm very curious. Let's get to some questions. First up here, we've got Caleb Hal. Why do you believe Erica believes so strongly that Kyle didn't do anything wrong? Is it just friendship, do you think? She just does not want it to be true. Yeah, I think that she's smart enough.

As we know, like, Erica is very smart. So I 100% think that in her, like, the back of her brain, she's like, God, if this is true, it's really going to be shitty and doesn't want it to be true, that's all. Yeah. She's holding on to false hope. Yeah. For Miranda Ann, 412, do we think that the lady's turning on Kyle,

will this be Kyle's last season? No. I don't think it will be either. There might be some sort of redemption. It'll be her last season when she wants it to be, because what's going to inevitably happen is we're going to get to the reunion. Andy's not going to hold her over the fire at all. He's going to give her a pass, let her skip around questions.

Like he doesn't allow other women on the show to do. He'll press other people. Look, we love Andy Cohen, but when it comes to Kyle there is a bias there. So she's not going to be pressed. And it is what it is. Now, if for whatever reason we throw a wrench into everything, and Andy does press her or he just steps back

and allows the women in the group to finally press her without backup. One, it's going to be an explosive reunion. I would love to see that. And two, that would potentially leave to Kyle being like, all right, fuck this.

But I still, I don't know, I think that at the end of the day, that paycheck's just too big. Yeah, I would agree with that. From daria. p.ng, does Kyle want to stay friends with PK because of his connection to Mo? maybe i mean that could be an afterthought yeah i i honestly the more i'm thinking about the more

the derit mo relationship is that the root of all of this yeah this is a funny one this is a funny one from rachel michaelis what bravo dog would you want your dog to buddy up with 99% none of them they're all so poorly trained uh june bug seems chill june bug seems chill june bug seems chill. The other problem is that you're also going to have to probably hang out with the person. Because, like, I love Lil Craig. I think he's a good dog. I think he's a fun dog.

I don't want to hang out with Shep. Yeah, I would go, Junebug seems cool. Definitely not Bronwyn's dogs. They shit all over the house. Yeah. Kyle's dogs are very poorly trained, not them. I don't want them teach my dog bad habits. Yeah, I'm just going to go with Junebug because

it's a safe bet. Yeah. From Lauren McDonald underscore X. Was Bose out of line asking Kyle about the text without Dorete being in the combo? No. I don't think she was out of line. I did think it was a little unlike Bose because I thought that that conversation was going to go a little differently where Bose was going to say and strongly urge Kyle to go talk to Doreet about it.

But instead she said, hey, everybody else has read this. Can I read it? Here's why there's no issue with it. I don't really have an issue with it. I just thought it was a little bit. I know. I'm saying from Bose bringing it up to answer the question. itself, Kyle went over to her house and refused to read the text, knowing what the reaction

would be from Bose, but had no problem going to three yes women, not that those three are yes women, but she knew she would have support from those three. So she did not read it to somebody that would be objective intentionally. Right. And Bose, you walked into her house and did this. So she has every right to bring it up. Yeah. And last question here from Arlo and Blue. Should they keep the same cast for next season? I vote yes. Yeah, I think that they've done a good job. Bose is killing it, and everyone else is doing a really nice job. Yeah, they've, despite the focal point being one thing right now for multiple episodes, it's still entertaining.

And I think that everybody, this is actually the first season in a few years that I could say everybody's bringing it. Everyone's showing up to work. Yeah, I don't see any weak links right now. Yeah, so that's all we can ask for. But hopefully, if you're watching on YouTube, it is multiple cameras. for a while. These cameras died at some point. So look, we've got to tweak some things.

We've got to tweak some things. There's a lower battery usage mode that I should have probably used. Maybe. I'm no fucking tech wizard. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. You're a pinball wizard. Harry.

Damn right. You're a pinball wizard, Harry. I can do a Hagrid. Let's just do Haggard for my British, so don't get launched into Australia inevitably. What else do you say? I don't even know. I'll work on my Hagger for next time, guys.

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