Bros & Shows - Kyle Rage Texts Paige (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

What's up Bros? Its Summer House time and summer is heating up to say the least. In this episode, Jesse and Lexi are going full throttle after knowing eachother for... a week? Jesse even meets the par...ents already. Lexi stands by the fact that she likes to jump in and risk getting her heartbroken rather than miss out on love. While Jesse is going to have to take some time to adjust because Lexi isnt a casual dater... It sounds like a recipe for disaster. Jesse lovebombs her until he realizes he's too far in and by the end of the episode it looks like he's questioning his decisions which is pretty unfair to Lexi. Love her or hate her, she made her wants and needs pretty clear. Kyle is DJ'ing an event back in the city that the whole crew is invited to. We meet newbie Imrul who is an interesting character to say the least. Paige reveals a rage text she recieved from Kyle about Craig and Hannah Berner... Which has nothing to do with Paige and Kyle just messed with the wrong one. We've personally been waiting for someone to set Kyle straight and there is no better person for the job than an activated Paige Desorbo. Daneille returns to the house after a brief hiatus which may be her filling in for Bailee since she got the boot from the cast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:42 Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Scoots McGee. What's up, dude? Well, summer is heating up, and what better way to do it than a little Kyle V. Page. That is a, that's one for the record books. Let's just put it out there. That is the matchup that we want to see. I am so excited for all of this. Summerhouse is back. This is what we need. This is a great episode, and I agree. It's the matchup we've been waiting for.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I will also say, very uneven matchup. Kyle can't, he cannot hold a foot to page. She's going to eviscerate him. He's going to hold a foot. Is that a thing? I think so. Hold a candle. Hold a candle.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Hold a foot. Now I've got to look. Now I've got to look it up. Big foot guy? No, I'm not. The feet grossed me out. We don't kickshame here. People want to go hold foot.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I didn't know how to like search it up. Be careful. I hope your safe search is on. It is. It goes into incognito mode. Hold a foot. I think I was, I think I was, I think to the fire.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I think I combined hold a candle to with hold feet to the fire and hold a foot. That is not, that is not the first time that we've done that. And it certainly will not be the last. we do that all the time we should we should just trademark a word for that action and i'm sure that we do it more than anybody else because we do it like once a week probably all right well let's get into summer house because like you said it's going in the right direction here i like this episode a lot and yeah i've been waiting for somebody to check kyle cook and i think that the perfect
Starting point is 00:03:18 person to do that is page because for all intents and purposes page tends to stay out of things unless she feels the absolute need to jump in. And when she does jump in, she tends to land, I'd say 99.9% of the punch is thrown, verbal punches, but she very rarely misses. So that's who we need to put somebody like Kyle Cook in check.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah, she has an innate ability to land punches like that verbally on any opponent. It doesn't matter who it is. She never feels like she needs to back down. If she feels like she's been slighted, which I think both of us agree, she was definitely slated. She did not deserve any of that onslaught that she got later.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And we'll talk about all of that and all of our feelings and what we think is going to happen towards the end of this episode. But I'm just excited because there's so much going on here that is actually one, really funny. There's a lot of build up towards something that I think is going to be hilarious. I don't think I'm really invested in Lexi and Jesse. And I know when that melts down, it's going to be fucking great. It's going to be a fucking disaster. It's going to be. And it's going to be so goddamn funny.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. And I feel like with you, you put that against like Lindsay and Carl and there's still going to be like a little bit spit, spit, little things here and there. But it's still going to be funny because they're not at each other's throats and they're not alienating the rest of the house. So it's great. Everything is just coming together right now. And the best part is Kyle is riding this like weird high where he's a DJ.
Starting point is 00:04:46 He feels like he's treating his wife better because he's coming home a little earlier and he's filling up her water bottle or whatever. So he's not, he's not really seeing. this coming he probably feels like page is going to back down which page is not the one so this is going to be great it's setting up for such a good season and i'm so excited for it because i love summer house i agree and i think that the best way to start it off is with you got to check in with west and jesse at the same time sierra and amanda are talking sierra and west have talked and it is going to be fine is it going to be comfortable probably not it'll be a little awkward but they're cool
Starting point is 00:05:21 were moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised by the end of the summer if they're making jokes and hanging out very, very, you know, surface level. But I think that why that was important for me, Sierra has every right to be upset about it as long as she wants to be upset about it. But the fact that they're both like, hey, let's move forward.
Starting point is 00:05:41 That way we can move on from this. We can go into the other stuff and focus on the other people. So we love when something gets wrapped up. We're big fans of that. And so the fact that that is something that we can tie a bow on and move away from, at least for now, is great because like you said, we have so much other shit going on here that I want to spend time on, that I want to see, that I want to witness.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And we start out at the 4th of July party. And as we know, it's Battle of the Sexes, Boys versus Girls. I don't understand this. And I'm pretty sure if I was at a party like this and I was drunk. I'd be like, I don't know who's who. You're team girl, team boy. I don't care. I'm putting my token in a box.
Starting point is 00:06:19 On one side, on one side, we. We have Doreet's Fourth of July party, which includes a water slide and a big blow-up thing. On the other side, we have a bar. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, because she has a slide. Yeah, yeah, okay. On the other side, we have a bar. I like the bar better, but, like, that's unfair.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So I didn't really understand the game to begin with. I don't think it really matters if we understand the game. Who gives a shit? But, yeah, if I was going to the party, I'd be confused, and then I'd probably be annoyed, and then I'd probably be upset about it. So I'd make a stick. I would definitely make a stink. You would get, I can hear it now.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I can hear it now. You would get drunk, but this is the stupidest fucking thing. Why are they having? I don't care. And then you probably throw the boxes, like the vote boxes in the pool. Probably,
Starting point is 00:07:00 yeah. Go swim. Whoever, this is what I would do. I would change the game. I would make it more, I'd make it more appeasing to my eye. And I'd say,
Starting point is 00:07:08 hey, how about we throw both of these in there? We'll take one girl and one guy. You guys have swim to the bottom, whoever gets the most tokens wins. Cool? All right. You guys do that.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'll be at the bar. Have fun. Yeah, that's exactly what would happen. But I do have a question for you. you because Lexi's going down the slide, Bailey, who I'm curious when she takes her leave. Do I get acid reflux? Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I do too. This is in tune with that. So Paige says, like, this is the first summer that I feel old. Like, she sees Lexi and Bailey, they seem so young and full of life and energetic. And she's just like, nah, I've never resonated more with Paige in that moment. I'm like, do it, I feel you. But my question to you, what was that moment? When did you have your first fuck I'm old moment?
Starting point is 00:07:51 uh probably my first two day hangover okay is probably and i don't know exactly when that was like i can't really pinpoint it my mind was going somewhere else during this scene and i'll talk about that in a second but yeah i think it was probably that or it may have been like coming off the golf course or something or like playing basketball or something and feeling like i just like ran a marathon like my hip was just like out of place and i was like 27 i'm like what the fuck this this shouldn't be happening and i shouldn't still be hurt like four days later yeah okay fair that's good good answers
Starting point is 00:08:25 but what you're mine what was my which one which one you go through you probably go through one of those moments a week yeah I have a lot of things I have I have kids plural now I can say it's plural that's one when I played in that baseball league last year
Starting point is 00:08:44 which baseball season starts in April defending champions returning defending champions no big deal don't worry about it guys the vipers uh nope Nope, we're the angels, but anyway. So after that first game, realizing just how painful it was, and I would say the first, like, real moment was, like, two or three years ago, I was playing softball.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And I just remember it was a tournament, and we played, like, four games in one day. By game four, I was in so much pain, I could barely walk. And I was like, that I'm old. I'm really old now. But, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's what comes around. But anyway, so what I was thinking during this, page was talking about this yes it was a funny moment it's a funny confessional it's lighthearted
Starting point is 00:09:26 which is by the way this is the best version of summer house is when all of the the little like the menial beefs are just kind of squashed everybody seems to be in a pretty good place and then something pops off because it catches everybody off guard everybody has to rally one side or the other and there's a huge beef in the middle of all of it and it's actually something that we're like interested it's you know when when when they're split up and they've got their own like sections and their and like groups of people it's not as fun so this is set this is why it's setting up for something so great but page talking about this page i'm sorry but like when were your younger years when were your like really fun part of years because you've been the grandparents and willie wonka for
Starting point is 00:10:04 like fucking seven seasons i know it's your thing i know it's your stick and it's funny and it's great and you've made a whole fucking living over it but you have been in that bed in the hamptons for seven straight seasons like you don't have bed sores you just hop right up whenever somebody's talking about like going after kyle which is great i support that but it's like you got the golden ticket in willie walker you just hopped out of bed and it's like whoa you've been in bed for seven years where's all this energy coming from that's what i was thinking that's fair i mean that's a valid point and she will be the first one to say that she spends her time in bed in the oh yeah it's not like it's a big secret but oh that's really funny but we're seeing red flag after
Starting point is 00:10:42 red flag after red flag at least from my perspective watching this jesse and lexy thing like it's it's it's It's just an absolute atom bomb waiting to go off. It's going to completely uproot the entire house because it's going to be that disastrous. He goes over and meets her sister because Tiffany, Lexi's sister comes to this party. So, of course, Jesse goes over to meet her. I'm like, I don't know why. I mean, I get it. She's there.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I just feel like the way that he was introduced, I'm like, this is too much, way too quick. You've known each other for two weekends now. And the way that he was introduced was not a boyfriend, but a person of interest, a P.O.I, if you will. And I think that I think you're right. I think it's way too soon. Obviously, you can't get around meeting a new castmate's family member. I get that. No, but the way that it happened was different than what we've seen. It was probably glaringly obvious to her sister. Like, okay, these two are hooking up. Right. And then you kind of do a little backtrack in your brain. And you're like, whoa, you guys just met on Thursday. It is Saturday.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And you guys are already doing this. This is insane. So, yes, agreed. It is setting up like there's an Adam Bob about to go off. And I cannot wait for that. It's going to be electric. Carl, fucking Carl, man. He's just, he just wants his friends back.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And, you know, Sierra gives him a compliment about his hair. She's like, that's the look. Maybe a little texture up top, but just the way it is right there, it looks great. And this is a public service announcement to ladies everywhere. you do not know you have no idea how far a compliment to a dude goes you have no clue if you in passing see one of your guy friends or just a dude that you know and you give him a mediocre comment something like your beard looks great today they will remember that for five years and they will keep their beard that exact same way because their friend told them that they looked good one day if
Starting point is 00:12:44 If you give your significant other a compliment, hey, I like those jeans on you. They will wear those jeans every time you go out from that on. It goes so much further than you think. And the proof is in the pudding here because Sierra says it to Carl and he goes to confession. He's like, that feels really good when she says that. It feels great when she smiles at me. And I get it because Sierra, but it's also just like men receiving compliments. You don't realize how far that goes, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:10 Just want to put that one out there. It definitely extends their life by a couple of years every time. get one. That's pretty much I have to look at it. And I know there's a lot of people online that have been shipping Carl and Sierra for a while. I think I saw hashtag Sierra, maybe. I don't think we need that. I think friendship there's great. Look, I think the friendship there is great. I think that's what Carl wants. I think he just wants to be accepted back into the house. Like, he didn't just cause a lot of havoc with the whole Lindsay thing for the last two seasons. And it seems like he's getting welcome back with pretty open arms, mostly because Lindsay's being very cool about this whole
Starting point is 00:13:41 thing. She's, you know, currently it's a little different. We'll talk about that in a bit, but it's relevant. She took some shots. Very rightfully so. But yeah, don't ship those too. Do you know, do you think it was rightfully so? I think, yeah, I think we'll watch what happens live thing. Yeah. No, no, no, I think Lindsay responding to the watch what happens live thing was rightfully so. I think that's fair. I didn't. Okay, so here, and I'm not picking aside. We can just talk about it now if you want to. Yeah, let's just talk about it now because you reminded me of it. Yeah. I watched the clip. I, I, I personally, and I'm not
Starting point is 00:14:11 picking aside. I'm not saying that Lindsay was wrong for responding. I just didn't think what he said was antagonistic in any way, shape, or form. To me, it's sounded like he was recapping. I don't think it was kind of weird. It is bizarre, but I do feel like if you're Carl, like, there's just a big difference. We can, we can put them up against what Danielle said a little bit later, where Danielle even calls it out. And Daniel's a friend of Lindsay. So she's talking about it and puts it in a very funny light. I thought that was a weird move from Danielle. Like, She's going to watch the confessional and hear you questioning, like, the fact that she's pregnant. Now, you guys just became pregnant again.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Danielle questions her and Carl's relationship for the whole time, too. I'm just saying. It's very, very standard for her, very consistent at least. We'll give her that. No, again, I agree with you. I don't think that Carl said anything that was too bad. No, I didn't. I think speaking his feelings on the matter, of course, but he doesn't really have a right to verbalize that.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Like, obviously, that's how it feels. Why does he not get to have feelings? He broke off the fucking engagement. I understand. months before the wedding. Like, yeah, you don't get to. The question was, what was it like? I feel like he put himself in, yeah, look, it was a not a loaded question, but he had to answer
Starting point is 00:15:19 the question. I get that. Yeah, I think there are ways that he could have, I, again, I don't think he said anything bad. I feel like Lindsay had the chance to respond and she did, but I do think if you're Carl in that situation, with what you did leading up to the wedding and then you break it off in such a weird ass way as you did, you should just be happy that everybody's pretty cool with you and Lindsay's pretty cool with you don't rock the boat just you have to act like
Starting point is 00:15:41 like her team Lindsay now over the over the course of last season I think so I thought we landed on under stuff they didn't get married I we are very happy yeah that's all like they pick that would have all the show yeah I really genuinely the show would have been over I'm just happy they wouldn't go through with it because they were miserable thank God yeah yeah I think you just have to you have to ignore everything romantic with Lindsay whatever she's doing she's dating somebody you just ignore it you have act like it doesn't, it's not there. I agree.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But I think it's just, it was an interesting thing to see. And look, she can respond. He was talking about her. I have no problem with the response. I don't really care. I just watching the footage, I'm like, I didn't get, I didn't get that he was playing victim. They asked him a question, what was that like? Because it had to be weird.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And he's like, yeah, it was weird because it was the first time. I'm like, okay. I think he unintentionally opened himself up to potential criticism. And it's not just by Lindsay, but by like other people. And look, I am proud of the people on. Twitter and social media for not immediately attacking him for what he said on Watch Poppins Live. But obviously Lindsay said something.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It was pretty split. Yeah, there was support everywhere. But it wasn't like really bad like last year was. So, you know, progress. We're getting better. Progress. Progress. I just want him to fall somewhere in the middle of this house.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. Go have a fun summer and like do your thing. Lindsay, go have a fun summer. Do your thing. Go your separate ways and just be happy. And let's not have to dive down that well again. But anyway. When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners, I started wondering.
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Starting point is 00:18:28 Mates is back. Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, We get to the after party and the boys lose, I guess. So they have to do the dunk tank, the file, yeah, whatever. I still don't understand the game, but whatever. They have to do the dunk tank in the morning, but they have like a little pizza
Starting point is 00:18:57 sullay downstairs, a little post-party pizza party, which I guarantee was more fun than the actual party itself. Those are always my favorite moments, like the after party. seeing the videos like Carl dropped a like a photo and video dump on Instagram of it and it seemed like the most fun parts were when everybody left like they were playing games in the kitchen they were doing this and that and whatever they just seemed like they're a very cohesive group right now and that's what we want to see especially for summer house because they're actually having fun so even those
Starting point is 00:19:27 moments were like yeah we're going to complain that they're not going out and they're not doing this and that and whatever which they've gotten better at as well but we do want to see them having fun because they're going to be home a little more often because of the way that, you know, the Hampsons is structured and you can't go out and film at different bars or whatever. I got to go on Montauk if they want to film. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. I think it was probably a lot more fun after everybody left.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I do like that Amanda kicked everybody out and she's like, everybody has to go to bed. And I'm like, the sun is still up, lady. What the fuck? You guys are going to go. Some of you are going to bed, but yeah. Get the randoms out of there. So we can get to the good stuff. And as they're having this little pizza party,
Starting point is 00:20:04 more red flags just flying everywhere because lexie and jesse are on the couch and they're what i can only label as canoodling this is what canoodling looks like they're canoodling on the couch it's so lovey-dovey it's so over the top and look they're probably a little lit they came in hot and heavy they're excited it's new it's exciting jessie's never felt like this before like bullshit like this Yeah, get out of here. But like the vernacular in which they are using, like the word choice, like the fact that he's like, you know, I really like trips, but like I'm not going to planning trips. And I haven't had a girlfriend to go with. I'm like, brother, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:20:46 And why? Because here's my problem with it. Okay. Especially the further into this we get. And like we hear her setting up certain things like when she goes to a confessional and she's like, and look, this is how you want to live your life? By all means, live your life this way. But she's like, I would rather take a swing and miss and be like, fuck, that hurt than try to protect myself and not go for it. I'm like, okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:10 I can respect that. If that's how you want to live your life, sure, fine. But Jesse should know better than to tee it up like this. Like, he's coming in way too hot for me. And like, I know again, they've been drinking. It's exciting. There's fireworks everywhere. I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But, like, the lines that you're using. Because of how you respond later on your date, you shouldn't be talking like this. You met her three fucking days ago, and she seems fairly impressionable. That's all I'm saying. Dude, they are one week away from having cute pet names for each other. Oh, God, no babes. No, babes. I will not stand for babes.
Starting point is 00:21:49 They are, they're way cringier, unfortunately. I'm expecting pookie. I am fully anticipating a pokey. Yep. Poops. Pumpkin, yeah, any of those. Yeah, they are in like day 10. They already got fucking cute pet names for each other because we're together and
Starting point is 00:22:07 we're going to get married and that's how we're going to be. It's like he, I know he was serious or at least half serious in that first episode where he's talking about it like, yeah, you know, I already have a girlfriend. It sucks that we can't both be single and like he's half joking. 74% serious. Uh-huh. He joked his way into a full-blown relationship.
Starting point is 00:22:28 No, seriously. I agree. It's tough to watch. And not because I give a fuck about his feelings. He's going to be fine, I'm sure, because I think that she's genuinely interested. I think that, like what she says later, she's like, I'm not used to dudes being this confident and going for it. Like, I really like that. I respect that.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I'm into that. I don't think she's used to this. So I think that she is like, and the way that she lives her life, she's like, fuck it. I'm all in. Let's see where this goes. That's not what he's doing. Right? So that's where I'm like, fuck, this is going to be disastrous.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Absolutely disastrous. It's going to shake the foundation of vows. If we didn't know that it was going to be disastrous, I think that I would be so turned off by that. I think it would be such a downball in the show. And look, I get it. Like you put attractive people in a house together for a summer.
Starting point is 00:23:13 They're going to come up and down from the city and they're going to be rooming together. And obviously they're going to hook up fine, whatever. I get it. But like, enjoyability for me isn't that fun. I want you guys to have fun and not get bogged down by this stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But if it leads up to a quick. getting bogged down by relationships. Yeah, stop trying to find love in Summer House, like enough. Tired of it. Oh, my God. But we get to the next morning. You get more of Jesse and Lexi in bed. And it's, again, like the way they're talking to each other, it's already speeding up.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's just the way that they're saying things. I'm so happy you're here in your bed. I'm just in my room just with me. I'm like, oof, this is really serious. And it has been now Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. But Sunday morning. So it's been 3.2 days, and we're at this point already. So anyway, we get to the doggie dunk tank.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And did you think that was that disgusting? No. I mean, I guess like it is the morning after. So it's not as, but like it's, you know, it was kind of whatever. It's probably just salty. Sure. You think that I haven't eaten a hot dog the morning after? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Like, yeah, but have you bathed in a hot dog the morning after? Don't ask questions. You don't want the answers to, though. You can't have a hot dog. in the tub unless you're doing it with no bun because you don't want a soggy bun well no you can't put buns in the tub what are we talking about it this is a totally different conversation you just eating wieners in the tub i just imagine you're taking a bath like a bubble i could eat in a hot dog if you think i'm above eating a hot dog in a bathtub you are mistaken i would
Starting point is 00:24:44 do that have i done that no it's in my head now though bathtub anymore i just have a stand-up shower so i can't take a tub and eat a hot dog anymore i do but i don't fuck with baths anyway i think they're gross it's like stewing in your own filth i don't understand it's a Take a shower. It's a human soup. It's gross. Steel soup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, I don't want that. That doesn't sound appetizing at all. Now, if they got dunked into a steel soup, that would be pretty gross. So they're dunked in my bathwater now? What's happening? This is what happens when we record this late. It's just, we're off the fucking red. I had to, like, bite my talk about six times the last 10 minutes to try to not derail us too far.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So I'm doing better than you think. Now, you are. I'm the one I think. doing it. So I'll try to focus up. I'll try to focus up. I'll know. So. Yeah, no, you definitely lead me on it. It's all good. But anyway, I like West's sentiment here where he's like, because it's just so fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:25:39 He's like, look, if Carl and Lindsay can do it and be cordial, like Sierra and I can do it. And I'm like, yes, that's the best example ever. If these two idiots can figure it out and get through the sum without being in each other's throats, you and Sierra absolutely should be able to do that. So that's confirmation for me that they can, like, do this, step forward, get away from the old thing. Yeah, they definitely can. And I think for Sierra, it's more just, that's the best I'm going to get out of West. At this point, I'm not expecting a full-blown apology.
Starting point is 00:26:10 He's not going to grovel. He's not going to go back to the New York Times and do a whole new article talking about how great I am, even if I really want him to do that. He's probably just going to do this where he walks around, mopey, hands in the pockets, head down, kind of says sorry. and then we kind of just move on. So I think that's the best for everybody. And Sierra is very cool, very mature, and she's going to let that go. Because it's, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And she gets to dunk him in the doggy thing. She stiffed on the shit out of that thing. I thought she almost went through the dunk tank when she was trying to hit the button. But anyway. Who else if that threw the ball? Somebody threw a good ball. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I don't know. They did it too fast. Yeah, yeah, they nailed it, though, one try. But we find out that Kyle's having a DJ party. A little DJ party, a little DJ event in the city. And we're also going to get to meet the new guy, Imruel, who I don't know how I feel about him yet. We'll talk about it when we get to it. But anyway, we get to New York City, which I'm stoked they're doing more stuff in the city this season.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I've said this for years. I think it's a huge missed opportunity that we only stay in the Hamptons, especially now that the bars and the Hamptons are shut down to cameras being in them. I think that you have to take advantage of New York City during the week. So I'm stoked that they're back there doing that. And you get Lindsay and Paige shopping. And I like this. I like that these two are getting along. And Paige even says for some reason, like the second that she said she was pregnant,
Starting point is 00:27:30 I felt closer to her. I felt protective of her and all these different things. And Paige starts talking about like freezing her eggs. Obviously Lindsay has frozen her eggs. So they're having a conversation about that. Gets into like the Craig freezing his sperm thing. I like the additional clip of Craig freezing his sperm one because we get the motivational quotes of, you know you go harder go home go hard to go home yeah oh god yeah one we get that and two it's because
Starting point is 00:27:58 we're like obviously it's our fucking job but like we are chronically on bravo so i did not need that it was just not necessary i knew what we were talking about it's like yeah there probably are people that just watch summer house that don't watch southern charm yeah wonder what that's like yeah you don't get the crossover you don't get the in depth so you need the the montage but yeah It was funny to see it again. I feel like it's missed opportunity that should have said get harder, go home. It's so great. But anyway, it leads to more of these like epiphanies that Pages had at some point or another.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And I think these are important to highlight because this is where she stands now. And this is where I always go back to I wonder how many times her and Craig have had this conversation. Have they had this conversation? I'm not saying they have or have not. I'm just curious if they have because, again, she's saying, like, look, would I have wanted to be the stay-at-home wife, marry a husband who takes care of me? Like, yeah, I would have, but I didn't expect all of this. And I'm at a point in my career. I've worked my ass off to get here over the past 10 years.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I'm going on a 60 city tour for Giggly Squad. Giggly Squad's one of the biggest podcasts in the country. She's absolutely killing it. Priority shift. She wants that life now. And there's nothing wrong with that. And she's trying to figure out where children would fit in. to there. So she's like, I'm going to freeze my eggs. But what I got from this was not, I'm
Starting point is 00:29:24 freezing my eggs just in case for me and Craig. I just, this to me felt like I'm going to freeze my eggs for myself because I don't know where my life is going. I like where I'm at right now and I don't want things to change. And I think, again, if you start putting this next to Southern charm and watching the signs, you're starting to see where the divide happened. And I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I respect the shit out of page for having that stance because it's pretty fucking amazing which she's been able to do with this business so like hats off there it's just interesting like you're starting to get and i think they did a good job and i'm i'm curious if production teams in southern charm and summerhouse have like discussed this
Starting point is 00:30:03 topic at all yeah um obviously we're not keen on the southern charm producers except the ones they replaced them with because fucking germane ruined that first half of the season with southern charm but it's like they're giving you little puzzle pieces and you're like oh okay yeah okay you're starting to see it takes shape. And again, not in a negative way. Like, it's sad they broke up, but at the same time, you're like, you kind of understand why. Like, you're starting to get a picture. Yeah, I agree with you fully. And I think that to go back to what you said in the beginning of it, I think when it comes to the confessionals for their respective shows, I think that they're a little more off the cuff. They're a little more, you know, how they actually think because they're just
Starting point is 00:30:40 kind of sit there and they're not stewing on it. They don't have to stop each other. So yeah, I mean, I think that they probably had some semblance of a conversation. that looks like that, at least with the two of them there. But, you know, obviously once emotions get involved in this and that and whatever, but I think it's much more clear when we do get to get the side-by-side of Craig's confessionals on Southern Charm, of Page's confessionals on Summerhouse, and then the scenes in between where everything kind of comes a little bit more clear when we're looking at this.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And obviously we know what happens, but it's not going to be like we're kind of leading up to it with both of their thoughts, both of their sides, both of what they want. and Paige has made total sense to me. The way that it works, like when we had no context, we thought, yeah, I mean, we've been watching this for a couple of years. Maybe they just kind of stalled out. But the more that she talks about it, the more that we understand where she's going. And I get that fully.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Her life looks completely different now that it did a couple of years ago when they first started dating. Her goals are much higher. Everything else is much different. And the things that she looks at in the next couple of years, sometimes they don't involve Craig. Sometimes they don't involve having a family. And that's what Craig wants. And that makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:31:46 me. So I think she's doing a really good job of articulating that in her confessionals, and it's actually making it a lot more clear why it broke down towards the end. We're going to have a better idea at the end of both of their seasons, respectively. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. But the scene ends with just Lindsay talking about this is almost like a second chance to raise her kid, right, and she's excited to find out the gender. And she wants it to be a girl because the relationship that she had with her mom, her mom bailed when she was two years old. So obviously she has a lot of feelings about that.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So she wants a chance to do better and to be better. And I love that. So excited for her. Now, wait. Are you disappointed that she didn't do a gender reveal on Amazon Live? I feel like it's a missed opportunity to make money. Everybody's doing it. If PowerAid sponsors it, will we eventually get one of
Starting point is 00:32:41 these Bravo Leberties or some sort of reality TV star going in and being like, and my baby is a blue power raid. We're having a boy. That's what I'm expecting. We're getting there. I know that it's going to evolve to that point and I cannot wait. I will tune in for those. Yeah, no, that would be interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But my only issue with gender reveals, I hate this part of gender reveals is when dads get like pink. It's a girl. And you see the dad like, fuck, like acting upset. I'm like, that's great. your daughter's going to see that someday you piece of shit like i hate that or when it's a boy and they over the top celebrate because it's not a girl like on that i think that's such a shitty move by dudes so it'd be better remember anyway dev told me that you guys were pregnant
Starting point is 00:33:24 and dev just like handed me yeah she just on a crowd hey check this out but in the middle of a conversation about something else hey by the way check this out what the fuck are you what's my wife i love her pieces see that's way more fun that is so much funer than like some dumbass like trying to I'm going to offend a lot of people. Yeah, just stop. Just stop.
Starting point is 00:33:44 But like the idiots to try to swing the golf clubs and then they miss the ball or they hit the ball or they hit the ground first. You know, stop doing that. Yeah. Or the, they shoot the shot and they miss the hoop and they're fucking just like lands in the ground like,
Starting point is 00:33:56 yeah. This is out of your, I died in the plane. Oh, yeah. It's like a crop duster and he comes over and it does a barrel roll and yeah, it's real. I thought that was AI generated.
Starting point is 00:34:09 No, dude. that actually happened it was in the news oh what a time we're a time to be a lot of time to be alive anyway we get the let just quick transition away from that we had to lexy and jesse's date and uh the waiter was a lot i that guy wants a tip but hey i i uh respect the hustle but this is their first date okay this is their first date okay this is their first date do you get that what are we talking about what are we talking about like honestly like he they're playing fucking lawn pong where you shoot the in the trash can and afterwards he's like oh you know my dad made my mom shoot a jumper to make sure that she was the right one if they wanted to get married i'm like
Starting point is 00:35:01 what are we talking about that was such a dumb ass move by him too because as we get deeper into this conversation you can see the fear behind his eyes as he's talking for it starts to get real for him he realizes what what he's doing and what he's done and i'm not even going to fault lexie for this because lexie has been this way she's been talking about this since day one you elected to get involved in this and you're like now oh shit is this a little too serious like yeah dumbass don't talk about your parents trying to have a baby and seeing if she can hit a jump shot like what are you doing here you're insinuating that you want to have babies with this girl and she's already crazy about you it's just he's such a fucking
Starting point is 00:35:44 idiot so dumb dude and then like they start together like the conversation he's like are we going to share a room this weekend are we going to take it slow like what are we doing like pretty much am i getting late or not yeah the slow down is what you should do and this is the moment where he has like it was a clear oh shit face because she's very black and white which i respect and again i respect that she's like, I'm going to go all in for things. And if I get smoked, I get smoked. But I'm going to give it a shot so I don't miss out on something. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:15 That's how you live your life. That's how you live your life. Great. And she's like, I want to make sure that this is for the right reasons. I'm very black and white. I don't like question marks. And I'm not a casual dater. That's a tough one to swallow.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. Run. Lexi. Run. Lexi's a little blinded by that whole thing. I don't like, I don't know. Because she seems like intercompeting. professionals when she's talking about this and when she talks about being a real go-getter
Starting point is 00:36:42 and you know not leaving any love or any fun on the table i get that that's great it's a good sentiment if a man looks at you when you're telling him what your dating priorities are and says oh that's a tough one to swallow that means he wants to bang you and probably be friends afterwards like what are we doing here you're friends afterwards he just trying to hit like that's all this is And he's starting to realize that he's done much, which is not her fault, by the way, because he's giving her the crazy mix. They're not even mixed. They're not even mixed.
Starting point is 00:37:16 He's just now toning it down a little bit. And look, she's like, look, I'm optimistic to give it a shot. Like she's giving him outs, but she also wants to give it a shot. And he's like, well, this is a new pace for me. What? Not getting laid in the first weekend? Like, dude, do you hear yourself talking? She's talking about a relationship.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You're talking about hooking up. like this is the moment you should have this is your west and sierra at the horse stable moment walk away yeah but i mean i just he's not going to like it actually gets it actually gets way worse after this we just don't see that it's going to get so much worse like i'm just so happy that i'm taking the approach of like i don't think that there's anybody out there that thinks oh wow this could be a really good couple this could be a very cute couple we could be enjoying this everybody realizes it's just insane and we can't wait for the downfall because it's going to be wildly entertaining and again it doesn't really involve us so who cares we just got to watch them fold
Starting point is 00:38:15 it's gonna be fucking nuts but we get to kyle's event he's swearing to god this is not a midlife crisis even though this whole dj thing came about while he was throwing things outside in the bar drunk at the summer house belittling his wife's hopes and dream saying i want to be a fucking dj when she actually was talking about pursuing things that she is passionate about in her life. But we're not going to call this in midlife crisis. We're going to call this just his new venture. He wants
Starting point is 00:38:44 to be a DJ. Sure. And everyone gets there and Carl's talking to Jesse about Lexi and they went on the date and Carl's like, oh, Scott Groie locked down man and you can just like just watch Jesse's body language.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He is starting to figure out how far in he's gotten. I he's starting to figure out, I wish I hadn't gotten this far in. And you get the final, like the most damning look he gives the whole time is when, like, later on when they get back to the summer house, like for the weekend, and Lexi arrives and says, hello, and they flash to his face in the kitchen. And he legitimately goes, yeah, eesh, one of those faces. Yeah, dude, you did too much.
Starting point is 00:39:28 In too deep, buddy. Well, not even. Not yet. He's going to be very shortly after this scene. but we don't have to talk about that yet the whole point is the girls are talking to lexie like how is the date she was like oh my god the date was great we vibe a lot i know you guys are saying like this is probably pretty fast and they're like no oh yeah yes this is way too fast this is entirely too fast but we get to kyle's set as that's happening im rule arrives so we meet im rule i'm not sure if he's full time if he's friend of i don't really know yet i think he's full time i think he is he full time okay no So my initial, my first reaction did not care for him. I changed my tune as we get into it a little bit and now I'm kind of neutral. I'm just going to wait and see with them.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's going to be a wait and see. I'm hopeful though because I do think that he's cautiously optimistic now. I think he could be very fun, eccentric, like a different layer, a different dynamic in the house that we really haven't seen, especially from the guy's side of you. Since we have like Andrea or somebody. Yeah, pretty much since Andrea and like this guy seems like he's very open. there's no shame in his game he's talking about whatever i think as long as he doesn't get weird with the girls in the house correct i really won't give a shit i think that he could be fun and we could really enjoy him but if he crosses that line i'm not going to be into it no well it's my initial
Starting point is 00:40:49 reaction i was like yeah because like the way he greets all the girls he goes i'm like it's not like the classic like side peck on the cheek like he fully turns and kisses every girl in the cheek i'm like that's weird whatever maybe maybe that's just what he does i don't know but i didn't love that. I thought he came in a little hot. I promise you, I changed my tune on him later, guys. Don't worry. But Paige pulls Sierra aside and doesn't say anything. She just pulls out her phone and obviously we knew it was going to happen. If you follow any Bravo accounts, you know what's about to happen. We've all read this text by now. I hope, guys, if you haven't, people have deciphered it. You can go read the text yourself. Yep. But she got a text from Kyle. And I would say the majority of it is about, Hannah Berner, who is Paige's best friend, business partner, co-host of Giggly Squad. And there were other tidbits in there about Craig and this whole Spritz thing, which we've all seen. We all watch to transpire. Let's run through for anybody that's unacquainted.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Craig approached Kyle originally to invest in Loverboy because he wanted to get involved with that space. Kyle said they're not looking for investors. So he had an opportunity with Spritz, who makes a different kind of drink than the classic lover boy, so he decided to get involved with Spritz. Kyle took an issue with that, saying it was bullshit because they actually did launch a Spritz line a year and a half before that. When I watch what happens live, called Craig a liar, disparaged his business, said he doesn't actually do anything at his place of work. He's just the front man.
Starting point is 00:42:19 He said a lot of stupid shit on TV because he felt some kind of way after Craig had already asked to invest in his company. Okay. Now, Hannah Burner. Incredible summary. Wow. Thank you very much. Very concise.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm here. This is what I'm here for. Hannah Burner went on a podcast and took some shots at Kyle and alluding to him cheating, things like that. And that was within the past year or so, which, yeah, kind of fucked up. But if you're not aware, Hannah and Kyle have, they've been at odds for a very long time. Hannah actually accuses Kyle of the reason that she got fired from the show. There is evidence to support that. Did that actually happen?
Starting point is 00:42:57 I was not involved in Summer House at that point. I do not know. So when Kyle heard Hannah through some shade in the podcast, he felt some type of way about it. Both of these things are about Craig and Hannah. They have nothing to do with Paige, which by the way, Paige has for some reason, and it's probably to keep things cool with Amanda because that's her girl, has put up with Kyle's shit for a long time. has been a shoulder for him when he's needed some support. He has talked to her when he needs some help and some advice. Like she's been there to help this dude out,
Starting point is 00:43:38 even though she's had feelings about not like those feelings, but negative feelings about the guy for a long time because she's watched how he treats Amanda and she fucking hates it as we all do. So for him to have the balls to text her like a fucking paragraph, shitting on her co-host slash best friend, shitting on Craig is wild. I don't know why he thinks that's her fucking issue or why he thinks that he's allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:44:07 This is just Kyle. This is what Kyle is done year in and year out. He always does something like this. He always spirals out of control and it's always coming from a place of he's in a good place now or something some bullshit or whatever it might be. And look, I'm not, we'll leave the Craig thing aside because I do think that this was, this is probably right before the watch what happens live thing. If I have my timelines right, because I imagine.
Starting point is 00:44:27 he probably told Page about this first because Page wasn't already talking about the fact that he was on Watch what happens live, trashing her boyfriend. So that part of it was, you know, we're, we've already kind of discussed that. We've already dug through that when it happened over the summer. But when it comes to Hannah, I'm not the biggest Hannah supporter. I've watched Summer House for a long time. The two of them always butt heads. The reason that they butt heads was because Hannah was very vocal in standing up to Kyle.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Okay. For the sake of Amanda. Because guess what? Kyle did cheat on Amanda twice on the show we've seen it we know that it happened and unfortunately when you do that and unfortunately kind of just an overbearing thing not really saying it's unfortunate for Kyle because it's you know you've made your bed you have cheated on your wife in the past yes you guys weren't married you were engaged you were in a relationship whatever it may have been you were labeled a cheater because you are a cheater so when people
Starting point is 00:45:20 are talking about cheating rumors again unfortunately you have to deal with that that's just got to come in the territory right you got to just shut up ignore it or if you really have an issue go after hannah the problem is he's a problem is if he texts hannah hannah is gonna post it right on their fucking social oh that's a good point because hannah doesn't give a fuck and that's the one thing that i like her for is that she will stand up to kyle she's not going to take shit from him page is keeping things okay because of amanda hannah wouldn't give a shit Craig he could text Craig right away but Craig would probably ignore him
Starting point is 00:45:54 so it really doesn't matter this is what his outlet is and the fact that he even needs that outlet and he's not sitting there with Amanda like hey this is fucking bullshit do you believe this I can't believe Hadda did this I can't believe that Craig did that that's what a wife is there for buddy or a friend maybe you sit down with Carl and bitch to Carl
Starting point is 00:46:11 about it you don't text page who's not your wife who's not even really your friend who's not involved in this puts up she's not involved at all So it's insane that he's going to do this. And again, page is not the one that you want to go after. Because an activated page in the summer house, when you think you're having a good summer and you're being a good husband finally, you are in a middle of a midlife crisis.
Starting point is 00:46:34 You do think you're dip low. And page will eviscerate you. So you do have to be prepared for that. And Kyle's not prepared for that. So it's going to be a full blown take down. And it's going to be great to watch. Yeah. And Sierra points out like Kyle expects just allegiance.
Starting point is 00:46:48 He expects all of us to fall in. line and be on team Kyle regardless of what it is because we're all in the summer house and he thinks he's the captain of the summer house he's about to find out like you just said the only reason page has remained cool with Kyle is because she's looking out for her girl Amanda that's it so once you take the gloves off again she's not the one to trifle with she she saves her words and her takedowns for when they really matter when they're actually going to hit she doesn't just throw shit out there but she's been sitting on this one for a very very long time so i wouldn't have opened this door if i was kyle that was very stupid
Starting point is 00:47:29 and his only response to her after the fact was he like walked by her and pass he was like oh sorry for the tax it's like you're an idiot but yeah we get back to the summer house and back to the allegiance thing it's just funny that kyle expects everybody to support him that you're supposed to support my dj dreams my lover boy this this that the other thing. He's never talked positively about Giggly Squad. He's never asked Paige about her own ventures. She's got plenty of them, and
Starting point is 00:47:56 they're successful. But the only thing he said, I think he talks shit about Giggly Squad. That's the only thing I've heard. Because he hates Anna. Yeah, of course he had. So why the fuck would you expect? Like, what? That's the blindness that Kyle has when it comes to
Starting point is 00:48:12 these issues. He thinks that he's untouchable. He's about to find out real quick that he fucked with the wrong one. I can't wait for it. But we get to the summer house back on the weekend and daniel arrives we all assumed she was coming back with the departure of bailey it makes a lot of sense i thought it was really out right now right after the this moment i think is probably yeah i think that was her last appearance from what i gather she made one weekend it didn't do anything you had to go talk shit back in the city oh my god yeah smart move way to pass that six figure way to go bailey good call smart move yeah but i thought
Starting point is 00:48:47 it was fucking hysterical the day. I was like, I missed this house. I'm like, you missed one weekend. You haven't been gone for five years. Like you, what do you mean? We've had people not show up till weekend number two that have been lifers in the summer house. Like, it's just, it's one of those moments where like, like, but you walk back in your childhood home. I'm like, oh, it used to feel so much bigger. It's like you've been gone for like eight months. I think it's just, it's probably just that the vibes are way different this year. She's coming in. She's like, well, it seems like everybody's getting along this actually might be kind of fun i miss this place and as soon as shit hits the fan she's going to remember oh yeah right this place isn't that great it's actually a lot smaller
Starting point is 00:49:27 than i remember yeah yeah it's a lot smaller i remember but i did i thought it was weird i talked about this earlier when she goes to a confessional and yeah we can all we all realize how fucking insane it is that carl and lindsay are under the same roof and she's pregnant with another man's child when they were engaged less than a year ago it is bananas And you and Lindsay are tight again and you go to a confessional, your first weekend in the house and you're like, this is pretty fucking crazy. Like, why would she do that? Like, you just were married or getting engaged to Carl and now you're pregnant? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm like, okay, like, Jesus Christ, you can't help yourself. She will never learn. It's just never going to happen. No, it's fun. And look, I mean, she's made it through so many different trials and tribulations with Lindsay's friendship. I think she just doesn't care at this point. I don't think there's much more they can do to each other that's going to rattle them. I think they're solid now.
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Starting point is 00:51:28 Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. Sierra arrives, and I think, I'm glad they didn't reveal the gender yet. Because I think we had a piece. peak because they talk gender reveal and then Sierra arrives. What color was Sierra suitcase?
Starting point is 00:51:51 Oh, I don't remember. I didn't see that. It was pink. And it was literally, as soon as she said gender reveal, it flashes to Sierra walking with a pink suitcase. And I'm going to put my money down right now that it's a girl. And I think that they foreshadowed it. And I could be thinking way too far into it.
Starting point is 00:52:06 But if it is a girl, you can never be able to. Or Sierra spoiled. Well, she doesn't know yet. Nobody knows. I thought she didn't know. No, no, no, no. No, she doesn't know, she knows. She knows, the husband knows.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Yeah. Chef. Yeah. Chef. Yeah. Chef. I love chef. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:23 But anyway, we got a happy hour with everybody. And, uh, oh, wait. We start talking about this happy hour that they had back in the city once everyone starts arriving. And that's where they got to meet him rule a little bit more. And he was at a play party. Of course, I thought, oh, you must know people on Broadway. He went to a cast party.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Totally. No, no. A play. party. X, X, X, X, X, X, play, party. Much darker. The way that he was talking about it. Like, true story, 19 rooms, sex swing.
Starting point is 00:52:56 But as they're going over this story, and like you see the recap on the screen, he pulls up on a motorcycle. I'm like, I don't know how I feel about this. It feels like he's doing a lot. He came in talking about the sex party, like, out of the gate. They're like, oh, so like, I think West is like, so, did you know the whole time?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Or did you come? And I was like, Jesus, Christ. Christ, bro. West asking that is just like, dude, you have to get offline. Like, you are way too fucking online, man. You're chronically online. You can't ask that question. He just thought that like, he asks it seriously.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I know. I thought he was kidding. And he had such a serious face on asking. He asked the whole time. I did like that when Imruel goes. Yeah, no, I actually, I didn't finish anyway. No, he said, I didn't come at all. He said that on TV.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I know. Oh, yeah. food oh yeah i guess we can say it too i i try to you know it just cracks me up that we're now in a place like we're watching tv they're like i didn't come once oh just edge i'm like what are we talking about right now we're really sorry to anybody who's driving their kids to school right now oh my god if your children in the car i don't know what to tell you you know us right now yeah i'm sorry you but you should know right now it's like the people getting mad at me for saying jc there you go i'm gonna say it again the seven i'm sure but like i i don't do it to it
Starting point is 00:54:13 offend you. I just, that's how I talk. I grew up in a minor league clubhouse with my dad. Like, I had no fucking shot. All right. This is all I talking. Leave me a lot. But I quickly changed my tune about him rule when he goes to his confessional. And he starts talking about his upbringing. He's like, I grew up in a Muslim household. There were so many things there were taboo. Along the way, I realized that this wasn't who I was. And I was ready to kind of embrace who I am. And this is who I am. Take it or leave it. But this is who I am. Open. This is what I do. I'm like, cool, actually.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I fuck with it, actually. So all the stuff you did before, I'm like, he's doing too much. I'm like, I just think that you're, this is who you are. I'm down for that. I think that paired with it. And again, I think that we did have a little bit of information about him going into it, various clips, various online things that have popped up. But going into it, I really wasn't sure what to think.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He could easily, he could easily have the easiest track to be the biggest douchebag on Bravo. And I don't think he's going to take that track. I think that he is who he is and he might actually be enjoyable. He might actually be fun to watch if he continues like this and this is genuinely who he is. And I think that that confessional paired with him walking over, helping Sierra out with her luggage, bringing it up and being nice about it. Just like not hitting on her. There was no iota of hitting on Sierra at all. He just turned around, walked out, said, see you down there.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Great. Boom. That's how you have to do it. When he gave Lindsay a kiss in the cheek, goes, God, you're beautiful. And I was like, it didn't feel creepy though when he said it. But he kissed her on the cheek. And I was like, this guy's interesting. This is an interesting cat.
Starting point is 00:55:49 So I'm curious to see what his journey's like. But you get Lexi West and Paige headed up to the house. Page got a cat, good for you, Paige. Just what I think, you know, it's been two weeks or a weekend now. We've had time in the city. They've gone on a date. Things are going to simmer down maybe between Jesse and Lexi this weekend. like they'll have that moment where they're like,
Starting point is 00:56:13 okay, that was fun, but let's take a breather and like come back down to earth. No. No, that's not what happens. He met her fucking parents. He,
Starting point is 00:56:23 he met her parents. He's known her for four days. Okay. He's met her sister and her fucking parents. And upon meeting the parents, she kisses him on the cheek and says, oh, you want the real thing?
Starting point is 00:56:40 no dude don't fucking make out with her in front of the parents maybe don't do that jesse i get it you're quirky you don't give a shit this is who you are it's cool it's fun ha ha no no no no lexie why why are you introducing them to your parents already i get you like to go all in i respect that do your thing live your life i'm not here to judge but come on man yeah what the fuck is going on this isn't like the uh the date where they have the conversation about their relationships and we can say, Lexi, like, we appreciate the fact that you're being open and telling us what you want in a relationship. Great. You are not at fault here. Jesse is the fault. This time they're both at all. 100%. You can know. Lexi does not need to invite you. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:23 this time for the parent meeting. Lexi does not need to invite you to some intimate meeting of the parents for somebody that you just hooked up with last weekend. Jesse, you are more than welcome to say no. No. In a nice way. You know what? I thought it was a bit of a joke. Maybe he did think it was a joke up front. But at this point, and we've only seen like three or four days of this, you should understand that she's not kidding. You don't have to go to that. You don't have to show up with flowers for mom.
Starting point is 00:57:50 You don't have to give her a kiss on the cheek and meet her entire family. You can politely say, no, make up an excuse. You guys aren't even officially dating. You just hooked up in the summer house last week. You can just say, yeah, you know, I've got a workout schedule for that night. Meet up with my friends. Hit me up later. Hey, we've known each other for four.
Starting point is 00:58:09 days. Yeah, well, that's a little bit of parents yet. I'm giving him an easy out by just making up an excuse. You don't have to do any of this. That's how it works. And I'm not, do not get a twisted people. I'm not placing blame on Lexi here. I think Jesse is, is the one perpetuating all of this shit.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I'll place lame on. I'm placing blame on. For the parent meeting, yeah, that's fine for inviting him over. But I also don't know, like, what he's saying to her. I don't know what road he's leading her down because I watch what he says to her when they're one-on-one. I'm like, no wonder she feels this way.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Like the shit you're saying is fairly objective. So like he's also saying, and I obviously there's mixed feelings. He said that and then, and then when she said, I'm willing to give it a try, he was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:58:52 let's do this. It's like, yeah. So no. It's like back forth. I just, I think it's crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And then this is the scene where he's like, oh, fuck. Yeah. It starts to sink in because he's standing in the house with everybody else, but Lexi. and West and Page haven't gotten to the house yet.
Starting point is 00:59:10 So it's just him and everyone else. They're talking to him about meeting the parents. And he's like, how the fuck did I get here? And it goes through the parent meeting of everything. And they're talking about, all right, like did you clear your roster?
Starting point is 00:59:24 He's like some conversations were had. Yeah, I talked to some people. And like, as this is my face, like my jaw was on the floor as this is going down. As he's saying like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:32 I texted the girls I've been hooking up with, which I was like, at least you had the respect for Lexi to do that like all right props there but still it's been five days that's pretty nuts but whatever at least you have respect for it and not be texting the chicks fine but then then Amanda okay Amanda posted something and we all know this stick that jesse has where he goes and he comments on people's pictures like lewd and lascivious things and it's funny it's an inside joke it's not a big deal he's done to a man he's done to page he's done to everybody just what he does
Starting point is 01:00:08 Lexi brought that up to him and was like, hey, are you going to continue to do this? And he's like, yeah, probably. And she's like, well, I don't like that. And I'm like, now we have ground rules. This is a relationship. You've met the parents. There's ground rules being made.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You cleared your roster with conversations. You talked about children. You're in a three-year relationship. It's been four fucking days. This is going to be disastrous. Any progress that we've made in the last two years of teaching you like newfound relationships and how it works in the dating world today it's all gone it is all yeah you didn't agree with your your it's not my logic it is how it works i've been trying
Starting point is 01:00:52 to teach you but it doesn't matter it's all the people that are stupid with their labels yeah but yes to your point all of that's out the window with this i get what you're gone it is way gone now after this and i do think that eventually i think in the next couple of weeks is going to be brutal. I think Jesse's going to say, I don't know how I got here. She's overreacting. I didn't do anything. It's not like I led her on or anything. And it's like, dude, we've got the tape. We can see it. He definitely did. Got a montage of him doing too much. I think he's going to do that. And look, I do like Jesse. I think he would be, you know, a good person to hang out with. Not a guy that I would ever recommend
Starting point is 01:01:31 dating anybody that I know. Just absolutely not. No. That was before any of us. That was before. I know. This is based on his. behavior last year but watching him love bomb lexie for a week and then when he gets too far in then he wants to dial it back it's like no dude you did this you have her thinking a certain way because you did certain things if you actually had respect for her when she invited you to meet her parents you would have put your foot down said i think we're going too fast it's a hard conversation to have but you need to have it instead it's either you're afraid to do it which is embarrassing or you don't have enough respect to do it which is embarrassing and instead you're going to
Starting point is 01:02:08 lead her on down this path. You're getting more and more visibly uncomfortable at this point because Lexi walks in the house and he goes, you can tell he's not into it now, but you did this and now you're going to crush her when she's done nothing but be fairly transparent with this whole thing. He's going to fuck her up because of this. And then he's going to play the, I don't know how this happened card. And that's fucking dumb. Whether he's funny or not, I don't care. That's shit. I think West had the line of the episode too, sitting in that car talking about all of this with Lexi, Lexi and Jesse, learning, I mean, this, that information would blow anybody away. And the fact that West was able to sit there and make a joke that actually hit so goddamn hard saying that
Starting point is 01:02:46 you think Danielle's going to say that they're moving too fast. That is so fucking funny. It is such a well-time joke. And look, maybe it's nature's healing. Maybe West is okay. He feels comfortable again. And he can just have an easy summer where he doesn't piss anybody off. He doesn't get into a situation chip.
Starting point is 01:03:03 just have a nice easy summer west for the love of god and we got the easiest you don't want to deal with it again you got the easiest path forward imaginable because jesse's going to be catching all the shit just sit back and let it happen yep and just have a fun summer because jesse's going to catch a lot of shit and kyle's going to catch a lot of shit and you can just sit back oh yeah you you can probably split car carl west carl west and sierra and lindsay all go sit on a couch with popcorn and just watch this shit transpire. Because you guys have done your bidding. You had a rough
Starting point is 01:03:35 couple of summers. Lindsay and Carl West and Sierra. That shit was nuts. You guys have all been through it. Yes, it was self-inflicted on West part. I'm not calling out any excuses for him here, but that foursome can just pop a squat, grab some popcorn, and watch the
Starting point is 01:03:52 fucking show because it's going to get electric. And shout out Bailey who could have been there, but she isn't there. Yeah, but she decided to go talk shit. and fumbled a six. Potentially, maybe it's got the makings of the best summer house season in like four years, five years, six years. And your dumbass had to go blabbing to New York.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Stupid. And we're going to forget about you. I guarantee you in two episodes we're going to be like Bailey Who. I don't know. It's going to be, it's going to be Naley from Salt Lake City. Yeah, I'm going to forget the name and call or something else. I know that's going to happen. Oh, that's definitely going to happen.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah. The fact that I still remember her name is actually pretty astounding. But anyway, I do have to give Lynn's. big props here because one of my biggest pet peeves on the planet as a private chef is when I get to a house to cook dinner and people don't vacate the kitchen. It is just baffling. I stand there with all of my shit walking around people talking and I'm like, yeah, it's a burning hot tray.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Can you fucking move, please? So the fact that Lindsay's like, hey, let's all get out of the kitchen, let the chef do this thing. I'm like, fuck, thank you, Lindsay. Thank you for looking out for us. I appreciated that move. But anyway, the episode ends with. Page and Sierra talking about Kyle once again.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And like I said, it was that, hey, sorry for the text thing. And I guess he had gone and done an article with page six, talking about the Hannah-Berner scenario. Again, I don't know as much about it. So I'm not going to comment on it. I'm just going to say what happened. And she lays out the situation that we have now. You blasted Craig publicly. He doesn't want to be your fucking friend.
Starting point is 01:05:24 You and Hannah have never been friends. The only reason that I have stuck around is because, because I love your wife and I didn't want her to be alone at your event because you're up there pretending to be fucking diplo and she's by herself. So what she's doing here by laying this whole thing out and saying like don't call me and vent about your fucking wife if you're going to then drag me in a text three weeks later, she's laying out all of the reasons that she no longer has to play nice. Not that she had to play nice before, but now she has exhibit A, B, C, D, E, F and motherfucking
Starting point is 01:05:59 G to go after Kyle and she's vindicated in doing so and we've all been waiting for it. Somebody to knock him down a peg and she's the best she is the absolute best person to do it and I'm so excited to watch this whole thing go. It's going to be because it's going to be awesome. It's going to be amazing.
Starting point is 01:06:15 The only thing that I'm sad about, genuinely sad about is Amanda because she's going to get a lot of fallout from this because she's married to Kyle. Page is her best friend like that sucks and once again your husband is putting you in a really shitty situation. But the line of the episode, the line of the episode is actually this.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And she might be able to, because Giggly Squad is extremely successful. He's lucky I don't buy lover boy and sell it. I'm like, fuck yeah. That was awesome. That was the highlight of the episode for me because she arguably could. They make a lot of fucking money. And she's definitely more successful than Kyle at this point. And maybe that's part of it too.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I don't fucking know because he hates her other people to do. better than him. Oh, yeah, he does. Oh, yeah, dude, it's, it's shaping up to be a really fun summer. And I, for one, I'm excited. I'm excited about where we go from here. Yeah. Let's get some questions.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Yeah, have some questions. First one up here from underscore M. Woodward. Do you think Amanda is jealous of Giggly Squad slash wishes she was on it? No. I don't think she's jealous. She doesn't strike me as somebody's jealous. I think she's genuinely happy for her friends. And I think it just sucks that she's in the middle of all of this.
Starting point is 01:07:33 And this is going to be, it's going to be a tough season for her. Yeah, I don't. She's never been anything with supportive from what I can see of age. I don't think so. Oh, this is interesting from Kelly Maggie. Emeril won me over in his confession, whatever first impressions. You heard my first impression. And he won me over in the confessional as well.
Starting point is 01:07:49 It completely, I understood after that. So, yeah, I like him. From Nikki Mono 23. Why do Bravo Leopardy's rage text so much? Jack, Sandoval, Kyle. old school tequila cany i that's a good question i'm a really good boy i don't know that many people have raised texts like that yeah i have never received texts like that in my life not like that and they they all do it that's a really good question
Starting point is 01:08:13 from cng 2000 i wonder who watched daphne daffney daphne being the new cat that's page's new cat we don't we're all thinking about daphne don't people get cats because they can like watch themselves isn't that the whole thing yeah I think. I don't know. I'm not a cat guy. From Crystal Taryn, hot take. Lexi is attaching herself to Jesse to secure a second season.
Starting point is 01:08:40 It might be possible. I don't see it. Yeah, but like introducing your parents is messy. I mean, I could see the love bombing and all, like, hooking up and, like, being weird about the whole thing. But once you bring the parents into it all, it doesn't strike me as a second season getter. It's a little bit too much. to figure out there. From Jamie Gibbs
Starting point is 01:09:02 for Paige's birthday one year, Amanda should let her read Kyle for filth without holding back newsflash. I think we're going to get that anyway. Yeah, Amanda's not going to be the one to let Paige do shit. Yeah, definitely. Kyle has now made his bed
Starting point is 01:09:16 and Paige is about to light it on fire as well. Yeah, a thousand percent. I'll do one more. Oh, from Casey Fowler. think it was weird they didn't show the Ki-Manda side of the page rate texts. I think we're probably going to see some of it, but I feel like this is a much better way to present the scene, if you will,
Starting point is 01:09:42 to kind of see it. If you get it from page's perspective, it's like, yeah, fuck this. Like, this is insane. If you get it from Kyle's perspective, we're all very seasoned on how Kyle is. So we would still see it in a very similar light, but I think this is a much more efficient way to do it. Yeah, and you can also, you can gather what he said,
Starting point is 01:10:01 but we've heard and seen what he does. So I think we can surmise that it wasn't nice. Then Paige also is not a liar. I don't think she's ever really lied. So that's not a thing either. But yeah, do you see any other ones you want to shoot off? No, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It's a lot of the same ones, everybody. Lexi and Jesse, which, you know, we've given enough. Yes, yes, we have. But look, shaping up to be. a great season. It sure is. Exciting stuff. Good stuff.
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