Bros & Shows - Kyle Richards Can't Help Herself (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

What's up Bros? Well it looks like despite a few weeks of Kyle and Dorit getting along, Kyle is back to some of her old ways. Despite asking Dorit to stop talking about PK, Kyle cant take her own advice and stop talking about Dorit. Boz and Keely have an interesting convo with Lael about their future/ fertility journey. Rachel opens up more about her own divorce. Erika Jayne continues to be an open book as she sheds more light on her situation currently as well as what she went through. This season is still decent and as an original RHOBH lover, all I want is this show to get back to its glory. Are we at least on the right track? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I think this is our last split episode. I think the ladies are finally headed back to L.A. Or Beverly Hills. I think maybe they're heading back to Beverly Hills. Perhaps. Maybe this is just the new structure for the show. It's like, yeah, we'll get more out of them if we just kind of put a couple of them on the East Coast, a couple over here. I honestly, I was trying to figure it out, and this is one of the last episodes, or rather this is one of the last shows on Peacock.

That's still doing the Watch What Happens Live thing. I know. I have no idea what episode we're on, but maybe we're getting to the end. It's episode 20 on the screen. So that tells me it's probably like eight or nine or ten perhaps. I don't know what's going on. I really have no idea what's going on. They still have a trip in the works.

They're going to Italy at some point. Oh, right. That's probably the end of the season. That'll be the end of the season. So they'll come back from the Hamptons, have like two episodes in Beverly Hills, go to Italy, come back for one episode and be done. Sure. Although they've been ending on trips recently.

So who the hell knows? Yeah. As there's a drive in a deep lift. field by Castellanos, it will be a little. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros.

Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Hampton Goots. What's up, dude? a whole lot. We've got more DRET and PK Talk lined up for us. It's getting redundant at this point. Well, it's the same thing. We're doing, the last three episodes have been the same. There's no Amanda in this episode, which is a pleasant surprise. Yeah, that's nice. But aside from that, I mean, have we really done anything else? No, this was the first one, because I've enjoyed it the last few weeks. This is the first episode in probably a month. So credit to them where I was like, all right, this is, this is kind

of boring. There's not really a lot happening. And you see some shenanigans trickle out of the woodwork that we haven't been dealing with lately from Kyle Richards, which I did not care for. And I'll save it for when we get to those moments. But yeah, I think they needed to get the group back together last week or this week. I don't think we needed another split episode. I think it's time to get the gang back together. When you're too apart for too long, now I don't remember any of the storylines. midst the group. I don't think there were any storylines. Well, no, because it's Beverly Hills, but... Yeah, that's a really good point.

Like, I think that, I think the idea of isolating Doreet and Kyle with Rachel on the East Coast made a lot of sense for them. And finally just, not even like squash all their shit, it's just so they can have fun together. And that's it, which I actually credit whoever's idea that was.

I don't know if I want to credit Rachel or producers or whatever it may be. Whoever did that, good. Let them just go have fun. But at some point, push is going come to shove and Kyle's going to get back involved and start talking about Doreet and all the things that she wishes that she was doing. And it's just kind of kind of fall back into place. But I do think when we removed them from the group, that is kind of what we were talking about. And yeah, throw Amanda into the mix. The rest of it was nothing, really. I mean, that's what we got

out of this episode, which was, it was a really powerful scene too from Erica again. She's definitely. She's doing a great job this season. She's sharing so much about her life. She's doing so much as far as growth and showing us who she is now and what she's come through and like that's all well and good and that's great. But in terms of what the cast is doing together, there's not a lot outside of Doreet and P.K. with Kyle and Moe popping up randomly and then just kind of focusing on the newbies. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, let's just jump into this one and pick apart what we can. We started with the Hampton crew and Doret's FaceTiming our kids and we get PK. we get to see him on the FaceTime,

which he probably asked for money for that little appearance. I would have liked a disclaimer or something when we started the episode. Like, oh, you're going to see a ugly old dude. Just like blur him out because that would have been so much funnier. I would have loved that they blur. We know who it is and blur him out and then put like a voice changer on him or something. Or it would have been great, honestly. That would have made me just enjoy this episode.

I wouldn't have cared what happened after me. Yeah, that's a really good point. But it just sets the stage for obviously we know what's going on between those two, and it's still extremely contentious. And of course, as Doreet's been saying, like the kids don't need to know. It's like, no shit, dude. Yeah. Like, of course they don't need to know.

Good on you for keeping it together in front of the kids in front of P.K. I applaud you for that. But yeah, like, I know. You know, we know. We all know. I know. Yeah. So, anyway, Rachel's hung over as balls.

and she's trying to get her shit together. And the only thing that's going to do that is a little retail therapy. Let's get out there and get shopping ladies. Kyle's wearing a Zara dress. Yeah. And Rachel says Zara rocks. Big points for Zara. Huge.

Zora just climbed the rankings. It's funny too because I noticed when they do go shopping, these aren't the stores that I'm used to watching the Beverly Hills gang. Go to? Like, to reach shopping, I'm expecting that price to be so much higher than it was. they did her dirty and we'll get into that in a couple minutes but the rest of it I'm like oh this isn't really that expensive you guys are shopping at some pretty low-end boutiques let me get out there and go get some fucking like designer stuff low-end boutiques in the hamptons yeah sure uh but i mean that's a

good point just in the amount of money spent first of all derit's carrying around a $28,000 handbag okay and she drops $4,500 at the store okay why are you? Why are you? on earth, and this is what I was talking about earlier. We go over to the other store because Kyle and Rachel go over to the jewelry store to wait for Zareet. Kyle goes over there, and now she's got all kinds of opinions about what Derreed spending. Now she has all kinds of

things to say about, she's like, oh, I don't know if she would, it's not your fucking business, dude. You're not even friends with her. Yeah. According to you. That's the big takeaway. And like, yes, you can read into this if you don't know who these people are and say, yeah, maybe Kyle has a point. And she says a couple things later when it comes to the relationship and what Doreet's talking about with P.K.

Where Kyle is making points and there are, they make sense, but why is Kyle the one saying these things? Like, why would you want, and this is my question with Kyle all the time, you're finally in a place where what Rachel did by bringing you guys out there has forced you to just live together and have fun. Be cordial. Be cordial. Don't talk about anything serious because every time you talk about something serious when it comes to PK, when you're talking to Doreet, she takes offense to it. Then you get a little. all rattled and then you say, I can't be around her, I just don't understand what she's doing.

Why do you want to worry about things like that? Is it just to, like, not worry about your own marriage? Is that what you're doing? Like, are you doing mental deflections to think about other people's lives and get involved in other people's lives and judge them? Because you're not doing what you think you should be doing in your own marital dispute?

That makes a lot of sense. It does. I mean, it's taking up so much space in her brain that that's the only thing I can think of. Yeah, I don't understand. I mean, that's the only thing I can think of. If she deflects and focuses on Doreet's shit, then she doesn't worry about her own shit. I guess. At some point, and this is the thing that won't happen because it's Kyle, at some point that opens you up to so many questions. If Doreet is going to take that stand, which maybe she does

in Italy, we've seen that clip a million times where Doret's going off on Kyle and then going off on Erica and then Erica goes off on her. Maybe that's what eventually happens. But if you're Kyle, and actually, if you're any housewife and you're doing this, you're opening yourself up to a world of her. Because she can turn on you and say, what are you doing with your fucking separation? You keep talking about it. Every time that somebody brings up a divorce, you always make a point to say you're separated and you're working on it.

Other people are saying that you guys are best friends. We talk about later when Rachel's family comes over, which was awkward. But at the end of the day, you're not. We're watching Moe, gallivant around the world, hooking up with young girls, and you're still holding on to this idea that you're going to get back together. You're living in a fantasy world. I would love

it if somebody would say that in clock, Kyle, when she's getting involved in other people's business, is, but it never happens. And that's the big problem that comes down with Kyle all the time. I think that's a big problem with this show. Yeah. Is we don't have anybody to stand toe to toe with Kyle. We lost Lisa Vanderpump and we don't have anybody left.

Exactly. Or it's like Kyle's just clocking in and maybe that's what this is. It's like, all right, we're headed back to L.A. Trying to jump back on a Doreet train. Yes. And yeah, her card gets denied. I assumed it was fraud alert because I'm like, you're 3,000 miles away from home. I imagine this is just fraud alert.

it was, but I was worried that that was going to get back to Kyle. And then she was like, see, I told you. I thought so too. And I'm dreading that at the reunion if they talk about it because you know Andy's going to have a throwaway comment, put it out there. Like, we all thought it. And then Doreet's going to pull up like an email that she got. She's going to save that email. She's going to flag it, leave it in her inbox so that she can bring it up at the reunion.

I don't want to do anything like that. This was clearly just fraud alert. Yeah. It's, again, if it popped up and she's looking at dresses and stuff, stuff. And again, this is why I'm saying, like, quote unquote, low-end boutiques. She's looking at a dress and she's like, oh, I should have put this on. It was $325. Yeah. Like, that's not, like, if that same dress was in Beverly Hills at one of those stores, that's a $5,000 dress. If she's spending $15 grand at this boutique in the Hamptons,

yeah, you can read into it. $4,000 is not crazy. And if you didn't notice, when they're doing this because they kept looking at the card scanner, VIP 30 kept popping up, which means she got 30% off at the store. Nice. So, I mean, that's a great deal. She got a lot of shit for that much money. When Kyle was talking to Rachel and saying all that, I was like, what do you mean? Yeah. She's like, she's over there, like buying the whole store. I was like, that was a very moderate to low end shopping experience.

Yeah. We've seen so much more money spent in fucking Sedona. Mm-hmm. They spent way more. I was watching an episode where the old crew went to like Shanghai or something and LVP went into the Chanel store and bought like 50 grand worth of shit. So like we've seen this before. This isn't even close to that. even crack the top 50.

Now, $4,500 is not worth mentioning, and Kyle makes a whole thing out of it. But we get back to the house, and Rachel is having her parents over for drinks before they go out to dinner, and we get a quick face time between Bose and Kyle. And this was stupid. This was such a dumb thing to do. I didn't understand you enter the conversation in a confessional saying, I'm really glad that Bose is trying to get to know me, like outside of Dore. read and then you go to your conversation all you're talking about is fucking

der reet that doesn't make any sense so like when this first happens when bow's first came on what was it two seasons ago now i guess i think so is this her third season no this is only your second season yeah last year that was the talk of the town the talk of the show for like eight episodes where kyle kept saying i want you to get to know me without having to reet in your ear and yes i understand the idea that you're creating in your own brain that to read has gotten close to Bose and she's talking about how bad of a friend you are and you're waiting to see if Bose is going to act on that or whatever. And Bose never did to her credit. She always gave you a chance. But every time she gave you a chance, you would talk about to read. So what is she supposed

to think about you? Bose, I think, has just gotten to a point where she knows this is going to happen. She's just checking in whether it's just for the show or she just wants to see what you guys are up to. She knows that you're going to talk about the read the whole time. She's just playing it a lot cooler than she would have in past. But Kyle doing this whole, she's giving me another chance to be outside of Doree. Like, shut up. Who cares at this point? That makes no sense.

And you know Bose and Doreet are tight. And you know that you're not in a position to really comment on what Doret's going through or how she's feeling. And you should also understand because of where you're currently at what she's going through to a certain extent. So to then air out her shit to Bose and be like, you know, I can't put my finger on it. She just seems, you know, I don't know if it's manic or OCD. I'm like, Jesus, dude. Yeah. Like, we're diagnosing her now.

She threw in so many different examples, too. She's talking about the store. She's talking about what happened before she got to the flight. She was like, yeah, you know, Doreat's always on her own time, and she was doing something with PCHA and made it seem like it was bizarre that she was late and forgot her passport. I was like that sounds like Doreet to me. It sounds like Doreet. And also immediately, I'm thinking, Doreet is a normal person who doesn't want to go get a real ID. Fuck real IDs.

They're stupid. They're a pain in the ass to go get. So I don't blame her for that. She's flying private to New York. She probably didn't think that she needed anything. than her idea. They did fly commercial? Because Phoenix asked Doreet, which is such a rich kid question. Did you fly commercial?

Oh, I thought, okay. Yeah, I could have sworn because they were sitting in that lounge, but whatever. Maybe, who cares? Either way, yeah, it's a normal thing to be like, oh, I forgot my passport. Like, I'll just get through this. It's not a big deal. Not the end of the world. It's actually a very relatable moment. I thought so, too, but the way she's talking about her is so weird. Like, she's a little scattered and, you know, she was the first one to point out to me that like the exercise and the drinking was or the not drinking in the exercise last year

when I was going through my thing like if it was too much or something like that's like yeah but the way that Dorete did it was ask you she asked you yep hey do you think that this is a response to what you're going through you're telling Bose that she's doing the same thing that's not the same thing and Bose and her confessional's like hey Kyle maybe take your own advice you don't want to read talking about PK you stop talking about Doreet we're going to see all of this at the reunion again. Yeah, but that's the other thing is, and that's what I was alluding to earlier, Kyle doesn't care because we always go through this with Kyle all summer, or all season,

rather, where she's talking about somebody else, it's going to come up at the reunion, she's going to have to answer for that, and then she kind of squirrels away from the question. So it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. No, and obviously they're talking about her purse, too, and like what Bo says is what Kyle should take and hold on to and believe because she's like, maybe we should have a conversation with her to better understand how to support her, so she can be more focused. Perhaps.

Sure. I just don't. I don't get it. I spent some weird money on random things when I got the forward for my book deal too. Yeah. That happens. And yes, is the timing great? No, because we don't know what's going on with Doreet and PKK's finances.

I have that question, but you shouldn't be voicing that question. Not like this. I can do whatever the hell I want over here. You can't. Yeah. Or if you do, again, go to Doreet and say, Hey, dude. You good?

She's already done too much to ever go to Doreen. Like, hey, are you good? I think it would speak volumes if she did go to her hat and hand. Like, hey. Everything we've seen from Doreet over the last two seasons, if Kyle goes over there and says, let me just check in with you and see what's going on and just sat there and listened,

Doreet would be open to that. You'd be your best friend. Even better than open with that. And instead, it's like, it's almost like Kyle has resorted to talking about Doreet like this to other people because she feels like it's just irreparable. Like, I'm never going to be able to go to Doreen and talk about this because there's just too much has already happened. I was talking to PK last year.

She had a problem with that. Everything I do, she has a problem with. And I'm like, no, it's actually quite the opposite from my perspective. If you go and talk to Doree, I think she'd be well open to talk to you about everything. Always. No matter. Static. No matter what you got, you guys could have just gotten in a fight in the Viper Room and she would still be open to that conversation.

Absolutely. Dev was speculating that it's more evidence that Kyle just doesn't care anymore, that she doesn't care about the show. Like, it's whatever. I think we've been saying that for like five years. No, I know, but like it's just another notch. Another example of that, yeah. From the parents behind law and order comes a mystery the whole family can enjoy. Patrick Pickle Bottom, everyday mysteries.

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She really hasn't done a whole lot. I liked what she did with Amanda last week, obviously. this was giving you a little insight as to where she is right now. The annulment just went through. So she's in, I don't know where they are, but she used to live there, I guess, with her husband. And now she's just trying to get her shit back together. And, you know, who better to do that with than Jennifer Tilly? Yeah, with a cool-ass handbag, too.

Just see that cat. She has the best bags. I know. And immediately, if it was anybody else, actually Tilly's kind of weird, so it could have easily just been like a figure even than she was carrying around. Quite possibly. Definitely a bag, though. It was definitely some sort of clutch that she could open up, and I'm sure it was like $25,000.

Just a great looking bag. But I was kind of done with this whole thing in the beginning where I'm like, all right, Sutton, are you going to do this the whole season? When they show that clip of her talking to her daughter, I'm like, no, she actually is going through it. She really is feeling this. And that was such a good quintessential,

like I'm talking to my teenage daughter about adult problems that she's not going to understand on an emotional level. And like, we have been spoiled with a lot of teenagers that are way too emotionally intelligent. This was a normal conversation where it's like, yeah, you're still my mom. Manila, your mom. No shit.

What are we talking about here? Can I get off the phone? I have to go hang out with my friends. I have a frat party in an hour. It made a lot of sense, and it does show you where Sutton is, and she's struggling with this. And I'm okay with that because a lot of people are going to, like, immediately grab their pitchforks and go after Sutton because she's not doing anything.

This is way better than Sutton actually doing things. I agree. And you get the extra wrinkle in there that Chris, in her ex-husband's new girlfriend is her friend. Yes. That's a whole different. I didn't know that. Nobody told her until she found out from somebody else.

Her son. Yeah, her son. Son told her. So, yeah, it's a weird situation. It probably sucks for her to hear all of those things. So this is a real situation. And what more do you want, honestly? No, I've enjoyed Sutton this season.

But the next scene is a very powerful one. I want to give Erica Jane all the credit in the world for doing. doing this on such a public platform, the strength that it takes, I can't even begin to imagine. So hats off to her. But she has a therapy session with the, ironically, the only therapist that we like on all of promo. This is the only one. We said this last year because she pressed Erica when she was talking about the pizza thing.

She's like, you don't deserve a pizza party. I was like, I fuck with this one. I like this one. She's actually doing normal therapist. They're not enabling. But it's also just, and in the past when we said that when we complimented this therapist, it was more just like, okay, this is a real. therapy session because Eric is actually opening up about things and we love to see that.

This was that times 10. Like really opening up about everything that's been going on in her life. Everything she's going through, she's getting sued again by the trustees. There's just so much shit going on. And it's a lot of stuff. Yeah, like we were kind of tired of lawsuits. But it does pile up on her. And then when she gets into her interpersonal relationships and what she went through in her

past relationship, there's just so much stuff here that it seems like she's been harboring for so long. Sure. That she's now letting it out. And we saw the scene last week where she's. She's talking to Denise and Sutton. Now she's talking to her therapist. Like she's working through all of these things.

So again, much like Sutton's storyline, this is a personal storyline. My gripe is that there's not a lot going on in the group aside from just Dereke, Kyle, and Amanda. But you're still getting at least some sort of insight into what these women are going through. So I can't complain too much. No, the individual insight has been nice. And I think with the Erica trial stuff, I think it hits harder now because it's like, fuck, she's still going through this shit. And this next one's a doozy. It's $25 million because of the trust being bankrupted or whatever.

So that on top of because you get lost in the charm of Erica, I think, and that's not in a negative way. I'm saying she is so good at putting on this front that she is so good that everything's great, like that you do forget. Like, you're going through a whole lot of shit and she's so strong that you forget all of that stuff. So it actually is a good reminder to be like, oh, damn. But when she gets to the end of the session, she brings up the fact that she told or talked publicly about what had happened between her and her ex-boyfriend or whoever that dude was that hit her. And the emotions that come with this, like the fact that, you know, she's questioning, like, should I have said anything? Was that stupid that I do the wrong? Like, that sucks so hard that you have to sit there and question that.

and I feel so bad that that's even a thought because the strength that it took and for her to do that to help so, I can't imagine how many people watching this took something away from that. Yeah. felt seeing, felt supported because she was able to do that. But while she's having this powerful moment,

she's still thinking like, fuck, maybe I shouldn't have done this. Like, that's really sad. Yeah, and I think it's even more powerful because you look at somebody like Erica Jane who seems to have all of her shit together and she doesn't really care what other people think. And she's got this whole attitude

about everything that's going on in her life where it's pretty much, if you're not with me, fuck you. Yeah. To watch somebody like that go through this and talk about it on TV is even more powerful to anybody else who might be listening to that. No, I completely agree. And it just, this was very just real. Like the end of the scene, you know, she, this was, you know, a funnyish moment because

when she's talking to her therapist, she's like, her therapist is laying out this scenario of, you know, we all think about that time we get to where Bill are paid, laundries folded, no stress. And Eric's like, yes, yes, Doc, that's what I want. She's like, it doesn't fucking exist, dude. Grow up. It was just, I want to give her credit one more time. It really was a powerful scene.

And I've really enjoyed her this season. I think she's found this perfect little niche of she is the person that a lot of people go to because she's real. And I think that's what's different about Erica. as far as like the shoulder to cry on or the friend, the go-to friend, is that she doesn't just agree. Like she'll give you her actual thoughts in the situation. Even with Kyle, she's like, eh, you should stay out of this one.

Yeah. She's one of the only housewives across the board that will actually give you an honest answer when you go to her to like have a conversation, but not do it in a, we see two things. One, you get an honest answer with a lot of stank on it or two, they just agree. You get a very agreeable answer. Erica does not give a nasty answer, but she'll give an honest answer. And she's not just agreeable. So that's very important.

Now let's get back to the Hamptons. We've got to meet Rachel's parents. We don't want to keep them waiting like Derrete. And, you know, Kyle's down there first, obviously. I don't know what's happening. I don't know who you think you are in Derrete's life or why you feel the need to do this. Because you're standing around with strangers right now. And you're like, well, Derrete's doing this.

And she's up there doing that. She said her dress wasn't that. You're laying the table. for the fact that like, oh, who is this woman? Rachel's parents are saying they're going, God, what a nightmare. Like, she's up there still because it wasn't ham. Fuck off. Like, she's trying to figure it out.

I don't know. And she is going through something right now. Kyle, I don't know why we're nitpicking every little thing that Dorit's doing to the point that we're talking about her being late to walk downstairs. Who fucking cares? Yeah, this is pretty much the same copy and paste. And I don't even think it has anything to do with her going through stuff. Sutton got to her house for a party last year

and she still wasn't ready. Right. So this is just who Doreet is. You can make jokes about Doreet being late. You can make jokes about who she is as a person because she's always going to be late. Even in her own house she was late last year, so we're expecting her at some point.

And then move on and get to know these people. That's all you have to do. You don't have to add in like any other little quips about who she is and what she's going through and try to make it seem like she's a bad person. Like, what are we doing here? I don't know. I don't know.

It was absolutely bizarre. And that's, that's a great point. Now Kyle's trying to use Doreetisms as like, oh, this is out of character. Yeah. What do you mean? Like, I was not. Everything that she's using as an example is something that Doread has done in the past. She did that shit when she was married to PK, quote unquote, happily married.

Like, I don't know why you're throwing these things out. They're like, oh, my God, that's weird. No, it's not. Dazar. You're weird. You weirdo? But Dorete joins and, of course, like, makes a much better impression than Kyle. at least that's what production leads me to believe because she's talking to the parents.

They seem to vibe a little bit. Kyle, shut up. And they're talking about like divorces, all those things. I felt for Rachel in this scene. And I just hats off to Rachel's O. What a fucking star, dude. They should have had her back five fucking years ago. Yeah.

They should never have gotten rid of her. Yeah. That's the other thing is if they had her back into Beverly Hills pretty much like right after LVP's gone, a couple seasons after. You probably don't have to make as many moves as you've made in the last, like, like, five, six years. This would have been a lot easier to do, and I feel like she would have gotten to a point. And I know this is putting it a lot on a quote-unquote newbie, but she's been around for so long that it's not the same thing.

It's not the same thing as us, like, awarding Bose or something last year. I mean, like, wow, Bose is great. She could have fixed all these problems. Like, no, I actually do think that Rachel could have fixed a lot of the problems. And you wouldn't have had to go through, you know, I liked Crystal, but you wouldn't have had to go through the Crystal phase. The Anne-Marie phase. Amberie phase. You wouldn't have gone through

all of the things that Sutton was doing when everybody was just getting mad at her. You might still have Lisa Rinna on the show. There could be so many things going on on this show

if you made the right moves and if you had her back and we don't know like contract disputes if she was ready or whatever. But watching it now, it's like, why are we just getting her now?

I don't know. And we've had to endure five seasons of essentially nothing. I don't know. Like she is so authentic, real, relatable, even though she's like filthy rich.

She's all the things you want. Yeah. So, like, her coming back, she could honestly be the reason that I'm enjoying this season. I think it's probably true. I think she is, if not the, the only reason, I think that her influence across the group even, like the fact that she in her first fucking season back

can take Kyle and Derreet, I was going to say overseas, to New York and have, like, a fun weekend. We would never have seen that with. And if anybody else had taken those two, that would not have happened the way it did. No, no. We would have, and Kyle even threatened this, if she wasn't going to have fun, she was going to leave. Yeah.

Kyle would have left. Yeah. Actually, she would have been on a plane, see you later. Uh-huh. And all that to say, like, in these moments, that's what I'm like, damn, we forget, because again, Rachel, very strong, very confident. I like that she is vulnerable, though, when she wants to be and she lets us in, and that's huge, especially, again, on this cast, because we've missed that with so many of these cast members. But she goes from one scene to the next scene where she's in her confessional talking about

her parents' reaction to her ex. She's like, that wasn't their son or no, that was their son. This is a whole different layer to this whole thing. I got rid of their favorite person. I'm going through that shit, too. She talks about having a complete breakdown later. I cried on the floor for like a day. All of this shit that, like, it's not, we don't ask for a lot.

We ask for authenticity. Let us in. Let us get a glimpse. And she did. She is. It's really, she's phenomenal, truly. But now let's get back to Beverly Hills. And we got dinner. We're going with Bose, Keeley, and Lael. We need to have a Keeley Convo. That's what this is about. Yeah, we might have to have a Bose combo, too, about this one.

A Bose Convo and a Keeley Convo. Why is her daughter there for this conversation? Oh, I don't know. I don't know why she brought up this. So there's two parts to it. Yeah, well, there are two very important conversations happening. Yeah. I don't think either of them should have been around the daughter. I know she's very mature for her age.

So that's where I thought. But it's weird. Like maybe their relationship, obviously it's a much different relationship because Peter passed away. Husband and father passed away. I would imagine, from what I've seen between these two, they have also that friend relationship. And I think that maybe, and I could be wrong, And I'm not saying good or bad. I'm just saying I think this is what it is.

I think maybe that's the way that Bose handles this relationship is, look, I'm going to tell you what's going on and be always be honest with you. You're never going to have question marks about like, hey, what's going on with this? What's going on with that? You're going to know everything, even if it's uncomfortable to discuss. Now, do I fully agree with having the fertility convo on TV with your daughter? No. On TV, sure, because you have been talking about it a lot. and that's fine if you had to sit down with just keely

you guys went out to dinner. Not on TV. I'm saying on TV with your daughter. Oh, with your daughter, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, that's the other thing is the way this conversation was going. It wasn't just a little check-in. Like, all right, this is what I'm up to.

Like, yeah, you know, we're still figuring it out. Like, this was always going to be a heavier conversation, even when you're thinking about, like, I'm bringing this up while we're at dinner. So that was enough for me to be like, all right, maybe she shouldn't be here for this conversation? I don't know. And the way that it comes up, obviously, which it was, organic. Like, yeah, I'm going to update you on what's going on. And Keeley has a follow-up question pretty quickly. Like, okay, are you going to take a little break? Like, if this one doesn't work,

are you going to take a little break? Which I don't, I'm not reading into too much because he doesn't, I guess they haven't had the conversation of like, I'm reading. I'm reading it later. I'm reading into his response to all of this afterwards. But in this, it's like, okay, I'm more like, have you guys not had this discussion about what happens? Yeah. And why are we just doing this now? maybe they were just very hopeful and thinking like, okay, it'll probably work, and if it doesn't work, we'll figure it out at that point.

Cross that bridge when we get. And now it's like we have to have a very stern conversation about what happens. It's like, okay, you guys haven't talked about this a whole lot at all because he's of the thinking of, well, you're going to take a little break and give your body a rest and try to figure things out from there. I'm okay with that.

You know, obviously he could have said it differently. He could have said it better. But I'm okay with that in a nutshell, given the fact that they're talking about this. But once Beau's response, with like, I don't know, that might be it. I'm waiting to see what Keeley does. Pretty much just waiting to see what he does.

And he goes a long way about to get to the point of, look, I still want to be, I still want to marry you, and I still want to be your stepfather or dad or whatever you want to call me at that point. That's the right answer. It took a little too long to get there, but it was the right answer. So I'm giving a little benefit of the doubt here

because it was a really awkward conversation. And then you throw in the kid being there, I don't really know if any guy's going to do much better for that one. there. So I watched it with Dev. We were talking about it. I had multiple reactions, and then I thought it through, and I think I've landed here. This whole fertility journey has become much more apparent that it's for Keeley, my opinion. Yeah. Bowes keeps saying that. Right. And that I, that's also kind of why I'm like, not that the kids still there,

but she keeps saying, like, I know you really want to have kids. I'm like, you're leading us here, and now we're thinking this, and if it goes wrong, it's going to be his fault. That's kind of like, you're kind of making a bed for us to lay into this.

My big thing with it, and my big takeaway is the more that she says that, because in the beginning, you know, last week, the week prior, we're like, oh, Keeley seems like whatever.

And like we've been kind of Keeley fans up until a monitoring the situation, yeah. Right. I think of monitored, and I think that it's becoming so apparent that this is for Keeley. And I think that in this moment, he had a big chance for when he says, if this doesn't work, are we going to take a break? He should have said something along the lines of, if this doesn't work, whatever you want to do. He needs to put more agency in Bose's hands and say, hey, I want to do what you want to do because what it comes off as at this point. she's almost died giving birth.

She's lost a child giving birth. And she just had a similar reaction to learning the embryos didn't implant. Like she even says it felt the same as when I heard that Eve or Eva didn't make it. Right. I need Keeley to step up there in that moment and not leave it like an open end to like, yeah, we'll see where it goes. You need to fucking say something along the lines of, hey, I support you and whatever you want to do. if you want this, I'm in. If not, if this isn't going to work, I still love you.

Like you said, he stalled a little bit. It went a weird way. So when I'm putting all these pieces together, and then I didn't think the question was that weird, but the more that I talked about with Dev, I was like, oh, okay, I see where you're coming from. How are we going to fucking end the conversation with what if I lose my job? What are you going on?

That's my problem with Kili, but keeping it on just the fertility journey, I think it's a little harsh to immediately be like, what the fuck are you doing? Because we don't know. We're only getting brief glimpses as to their conversation. I agree with that. I don't know all. And we have gotten to a point where she is trying. We don't know what their conversations are behind closed doors.

That's fair. They've clearly gotten to this point. So we don't know if Bose is saying a lot of different things. And then she had that reaction. Now, again, obviously after that last one failed, she had a reaction where it's like, yeah, it reminded me of the time that that happened. and I felt the same way. Yeah. Is this the first time that he's hearing that?

Because I have a big problem with that one, too. If this is the first time that he's hearing that you had that reaction, we're sitting in front of your daughter and we're on camera. I don't think so. But we don't know. We don't know. But based on when they were talking to the doctor on the screen, how she reacted there, I would be hard pressed to not think that the conversation that would then led to that.

I would be too. But then, and maybe it's because of he wants a kid with her. so bad that he's just blinded everything else out, maybe that's a possibility. But the way that he reacted to it, I was like, is this the first time he's hearing this? Because that's kind of problematic. I don't really like that this is the first time that he's hearing that. But we don't know. And that's the big thing that's my big takeaway anyway, is I'm not going to be hypercritical because he didn't say the exact perfect thing this entire time. Because we don't know the rest. Clearly, he still ended it with, I still love you, I still want to marry you and I still

want to be your stepfather. That's, that is the right answer at the end of the day. Like I said, he stalled a little bit, but it's an awkward conversation. It's a really awkward conversation to have in front of a 17-year-old. And it's really weird to do this if this is the first time that he's hearing some of this on camera. And it's like, why are we doing this now? Shouldn't we have had this? We don't know what the other conversations are like. So I'm not going to be super hypercritical of that.

I will be super hypercritical of turning the conversation into, would you still love me if I didn't have a job? Yeah. Where'd that come from? I don't know. And that's also trying to equate. not having a job to her losing a kid. It is, yeah.

And I have a big problem with that. I think my big takeaway from what you said, does he so desperately want a kid with Bose? Or does he so desperately want a kid, period? I think he wants a kid with Bose because he ended it with, I want to marry you still. Okay. Yeah, I think it's still with.

That's the other thing is I think clearly they love each other. I don't think that this is just like, well, we'll see how this goes. And we'll try to have kids. Like, I think there's clearly a lot of love there. I think they love each other. I think the conversations, like, when these, like, we give and we take a lot of things for granted on shows like this. Sure. When we see a conversation like this, we've seen it go so many different ways.

Yeah. We've seen a lot of very similar situations play out on a lot of different reality TV shows, and they go a lot of different ways. Sometimes, this one was just a little awkward. And I think because we're so trained and everybody online too, because we're so trained to, like, read into little things here and there, we're going to immediately jump and be like, What the fuck is this? The conversation about the job immediately afterwards, absolutely. That was bizarre. That makes me think that he's a grifter.

It makes me think that, like, he doesn't have a job. Maybe he, maybe he's currently unemployed, and he's actually sold all of his companies. He's got alone. Like, we don't know. That was the other side. That part of it is bizarre to be. And it could, and using the same logic that I was, it could just be, this is a really awkward conversation. We're in front of a camera.

I've got to think of something to say, let me do to this. This will be a good conversation to have. It's like, no, it's not. Oh, stupid. And that's also strike number two because, again, we're having this conversation in front of a 17-year-old. This is weird. She wants to get the fuck out of there. She is very uncomfortable.

Every time they pan over to her, I'm like, oh, God. So that's where I got a little bit more evidence for what I was saying earlier, because there is a moment where she raises her eyebrows amidst the fertility conversation. And I caught it, mainly because the camera was only on her and they wanted us to catch it. That was bizarre, too. But like that makes me think and I didn't think this is why I love watching these shows with Dev because she sees them differently and she's like yeah well did you notice that one time when she was talking about Keeley to her mom her voice raised an octave like 10 octaves higher. I was like I didn't know but that is interesting. Yeah.

So I don't know. I think the end of the day like for some reason I'm protective of Bose probably because I like her so much and she's been through so much that I'm like don't fucking fuck her up. I definitely don't want him to fuck her up, but I also do think, like, we've gotten to this point. There's got to be so many more conversations that we want to agree with that. That have led to this point where it's like, okay, this is just a really awkward conversation. And I don't know why we're having it right now, but we are. So let's try to get through it. And I do think as weird as the second conversation was, I do think that was his weird response to, well, now I got to say something.

Yeah, but again, now you're trying to. Why are you doing that? No, and equates. Well, it does equate. And at the end of the day, he is much like you can say, and we've seen her daughter be incredibly emotionally intelligent, I'm not going to put a whole lot into her raising her eyebrows. She's 17 years old.

We can continue to monitor. I'm just saying. We're going to monitor the situation for sure. I'm leaning pretty heavy one way. I think that they still love each other. I get so much love from the two of them talking and the way that she talks about him, that I'm not going to put a whole lot, which this is reality TV. It's a housewife show.

You see one weird interaction. You're going to jump. Yeah. That's what everybody does. I'm not going to. Okay. I will. Yeah, that's fine. Let's get back to the Hamptons. Oh, please, not that music. That music gives me nightmares from my childhood. Could we get something a little bit lighter? Some lighter music here.

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i start thinking way too far into this stuff but when rachel's like i mean the guy was attractive i mean that could be kind of hot my head immediately goes to that's such a funny scenario in which like i will the term pretty privilege yeah it's like that same scenario with like, what's a good example? Well, it's the meme about the, uh, the guys in the office where a guy comes over and compliments like a pretty secretary. It's like, HR, come on over here. Oh, you're so sweet.

Yeah, yeah, you've got flowers for me. That's great. That's pretty much all it is. Yeah, it just made me laugh. Some like, you know, sweaty, creepy looking dude who could be so nice, did the same thing. It'd be like, fuck this. You get an air marshal and have him escorted off the plane. But if he's smoking hot, you're like, stop.

Yeah, come on. but you're so funny. It just made me laugh. But anyway, the whole dinner convoy turns to Rachel. And something that had happened between her and her ex. She's like, what happened, and whatever happened, happened, and I just split open. That's when I was crying on the floor, this, that, the other.

Now, I think we can all agree it was cheating. Mm-hmm. Even though we never really actually said it. Seems like, yeah. It's got to be cheating. Probably of the emotional variety is what I got from this. Yeah. Wow.

Oh, either way. Yeah. He was what I'm talking about, by the way. We're just immediately ripping into something we know nothing about. He cheated on her. It's quite clear. We know. But anyway, she's just talking about the fallout from that whole thing.

And while discussing it gets us back to a moment, which makes me like 100% believe that it was cheating because she brings it back to a night where she was out doing her stylist thing. And she was all over the world, she said. And, you know, trust was always there. and he would say like, oh, if you can get her, you can have her, blah, blah, blah, whatever. There was one night, I guess some hot hunky model. She fooled around with him. She told her ex.

Her ex the next day proposed to her. Whatever, that's their story. I have no fucking idea what Kyle is doing. I don't understand it. Because she goes to a confessional and says, what kind of marriage are you setting the stage for? How's your marriage, dude? What are we doing?

Rachel likes you. I know, I know. She does like her. And I don't know what Kyle's doing, but in the same breath, it makes total sense. Like, I agree. If you want to judge somebody, like, that is a crazy fucking story. That's not the point. Like, yeah, sure.

For anybody else, that is the point. Right. For Kyle Richards to do this, for what she's talking about with Derreet, for ignoring all of the things that are going on in her separation. Yes, it is a crazy thing to say right then and there. but in the perfect world where nobody is involved in it. We don't know anything about these people. You hear a story like that. You're like, what the fuck is that?

That's pretty crazy. Why are you telling me this? But that's not the scenario that we find ourselves in right now. We find Kyle Richards, who is going to alienate another friend. That's all I see. But that's the other thing about Rachel is, I think Kyle going to her confessional and saying that and not saying it right then and there is different. And when it comes up in the reunion and Kyle was talking about that or Rachel gets wind of it, I don't think that Rachel's going to be pissed off about it.

I think she will in a different. I don't think she's going to leap. I think that Rachel's going to be, I hope at least, just, you know, strong, neutral somewhat. But like, I don't want her to get super. I don't care if she gets amped up. But I think it would land so much better, especially with Kyle. She's like, no, it's fucked up. And just like, it would.

Yeah. And maybe that's one of the things. And that's a good difference from this season is maybe we'll have that. where Rachel will actually go after Kyle for something, but I probably won't be that comment. There's a lot of things that Kyle has done this season that maybe Rachel can read into and talk about at the reunion. I just don't think the vibe that I've gotten from Rachel this whole time,

I think she's going to laugh this one off. Probably. Like, I'm not expecting a big blowup. It's more just, like, gripes with Kyle. I just don't understand why. Why is that? She's stone's living in a glass house. Her glass house is shattered from all the stones she's thrown.

I don't think it's shattered, though. I don't, that's the problem. with this show and that's been the problem with this show. Kyle can throw as many stones as she wants. She lives in the thinnest glass house ever and it never breaks. It just goes through. Nobody does anything. I don't understand. Nobody ever holds her accountable.

That's what I'm hoping that Rachel can do. And that's like... She's not gonna. No, I said that not for this moment. I'm saying there's a million other things that Rachel can read into and go after Kyle for. And maybe it's that she gets to a point where she's a friend with Doreet and when we're talking about Kyle and Doree,

then she can be on Doreet's side. That would be good. because we've seen Dorek go after Kyle nothing ever lands. We've seen Lisa Rina go after Kyle in years past. Nothing ever fucking lands. Nothing lands on Kyle for some reason. And it doesn't make any sense to me.

Maybe Rachel can help something land on Kyle. I hope so. Because we've never seen it happen. I hope so. But yeah, that was just a bewildering comment to make given what you're currently going through. But yeah, let's get to some questions. First one up here from Chris Don.

How grimy was Kyle for airing to read out like that on TV while always having PK side. We've seen it all season, actually. It's not that wild. It's just stupid. I don't understand. I don't understand. It's grimy, actually. The question was how grimy was. It is grimy as shit. Yeah, it's super grimy.

Yeah. From out of office, Mama, why wouldn't Kyle talk to Dorit directly about her quote-unquote manic behavior before going to Bose? Sudden feel for manufactured for the cameras. That's part of it, but that is also the world that Kyle lives in. And when she does things like that, I don't think in her mind, she's like, this is good for the cameras.

That's just who she is now. I just love our audience because we've said all of these things during this episode. You guys are the same page as usual. From Blackbeard 601, am I the only one that went from liking Erica to not liking Erica to liking Erica again? No, that's the Erica Jane train. That is the Erica Jane train. We've actually been on the train of just kind of liking her.

Sometimes we'll point out that she's not doing anything, but I've never disliked her, actually pretty much since she was denying all of the victims that season with uh that was yeah but that was you know a different story that was a way different story but yeah we've never been our like you said our only issues with her i've always been just like hey we like you so do more please and like i said she's really found her spot this season yeah like she's really in a really great spot i've thoroughly enjoyed her from amanda rocky's mom am i crazy or should kyle also be sharing and opening up the way that Rachel is. You're not crazy.

No, but you're crazy for even positing that question. What do you... Fortunately. What the hell do you think this is? A TV show. From Myra Helwig. Thoughts on having less Amanda this episode felt less chaotic but not uninteresting. Yeah, I'm...

It was a nice reprieve. Yeah. I'm still looking because I still have beef with fucking bloggers out there that are like, Amanda dropped out mid-season. We're like 10 episodes and 11 episodes, and she's still here. We don't know that. We know she goes on the trip, too, because we saw her and Sutton talking in the hotel. Yeah, yeah.

So, like, if she's, honestly, if she's not gone, I am going to petition to get bloggers who leak things that are happening throughout the season thrown in jail. Sued. Oh, wow. Jail. Okay. Straight to jail. Not fucking around. From Sarah Traps, three episodes of three ladies in the Hamptons.

Is that a hint that the rest of the season is a flop? Could be. Oh, that could really be a big hint. Why did you do that? God damn it. Damn it. Shit. Probably, yeah.

That really could be a hint. See, this is our audience, you guys. Yep. Great. Sure is. Great, but damn it, you just bummed me out. And last one here from Melanie Perham. We need more Tilly.

Always. We always need more T-A-A. Give me a T-shirt. She's gone back to just being Sutton's friends. She was kind of getting to a point where we saw her with other people. She would meet with other, like, parties. She didn't get it. have invited to Amanda's. I think she would have been great at Amanda's. Like, I don't know.

We're not getting as much Tilly as we want. No, we always, always need more Tilly. Great point. Yeah, I don't know what to expect moving forward. Yeah, thanks. But look, it's been an enjoyable month. Like, this episode wasn't bad by any means. Just felt kind of clumsy and like filler, but that happens. I don't know. Maybe there's a world in which they continue this hot street going back. and with a group coming together, I'm sure we'll have a big blow up and it'll fall apart in some way, shape, or form, but hopefully that's in an entertaining way

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