Bros & Shows - Kyle Walks Down Memory Lane, Amanda Does... Amanda Stuff (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

What's up Bros?! Steel is BACK and the Bros are stoked. This episode of RHOBH felt like a step in the right direction. It seems like the common enemy in Amanda has brought the rest of the group closer together. Kyle is finally letting us in and although it is sad to see what she's going through, it's also very real and its nice to see. Dorit tries to figure out how to handle Amanda. The rest of the group is beginning to get fed up with the "Money Queen's" shenanigans. Kyle and Mau revisit their old house together which brings up all the feelings for Kyle. Dorit attempts to smooth things over with Amanda at her birthday dinner... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, if you didn't listen to our Karen interview recap, that you didn't hear the news. That steals back in town. And boy, oh, boy, are you excited to talk about Beverly Hills? What a show we have on our hands today. This one wasn't as bad as usual. As usual. The problem with that sentence is it's not as bad as usual, which is... Yeah, but it was better than usual.

I guess. I have a problem with Beverly Hills. I watch it and then I forget what happened. And then I have to rewatch and then I forget. So you're the reason the numbers are so high. It's because I'm rewatching it like 15 times to finally let something stick. The only thing that ever sticks is why the fuck is Mauricio here, which apparently I have to say for every goddamn show on Bravo.

What if that's the reason that Beverly Hills numbers are so high is because people lose interest and they have to rewind it and rewatch it. so it's getting doubled up upon. I would not be surprised. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be on. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a...

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For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, and I am your co-host, Steele Russell, back in the saddle, joined as always by the one and only Beverly Hills Magoutes. What's up, dude? Well, I was talking about it in the beginning. I have a question for you, why the hell is Mauricio? I mean, this seems like a likely place for him to be. Why is he on every show?

I don't understand that. I don't know, because he's handsome, maybe. Because he's handsome? Yeah. He's a look like. When we look back on this, I actually forget what I just saw today. He's sitting down with someone.

I can't remember what it was. We've seen him in Potomac. We're going to see him on an ultimate girl's trip for sure. Oh, yeah. We've seen him on Beverly Hills. I believe we saw him on Salt Lake City too, because wasn't he like talking to Heather? That was last year.

Yeah, or two years ago, they were in Aspen. We've seen him on Salt Lake at some point. Yeah. We obviously, oh, we're going to have to see him on next gen L.A. because I'm sure one of their kids is going to be on that. What are we doing? Why is there so much for Riesio? I'm not really complaining about it.

I'm just confused. Yeah, I don't really know because he's handsome, probably. But yeah, I don't actually know the reason for that. But I will ask of our audience before we get into this. If you guys want to do us a favor, we don't ask very often. But every once in a while, we want to remind you that you can go on Apple and leave us a little five-star review if you so choose, maybe go and leave shoe. or a five-star review for his amazing hosting skills last week in my absence,

or just because you love us. Either way, it helps us out a lot. But back to the rob-ha of it all. I thought this episode was fine, honestly. This was one of the more interesting ones that I've seen in a while, just because there was things happening. I feel like we get so used to like, we're just kind of the fly on the wall watching everyday average lives in Beverly Hills.

and this actually seemed like there's a little bit of drama. Obviously, the Money Queen is insufferable and continues to be more and more insufferable. But she has painted quite the predicament with this one. She's funny. This week. I think she's just, she's very funny. She's a very interesting person. And I, she's one of those like, I don't see her.

I think she's going to get a second season, but I don't see her making it past the second season unless she changes her entire life. she just seems like one of those like breaking case of emergency type of people where it's like all right we're going to throw her out there just cause a storm which is what I wanted it's starting to settle in a little bit now though since she's been here because they do the watch what happens live thing I have no idea what episode we're on but they do this thing where they throw her out there it seems like a couple of the women kind of clocked immediately like okay like Bose was the first one looking at her trying to get her to explain the whole money queen thing and she now understands who she is. Sutton clocked it but didn't really talk about it too much.

She's like, I want nothing to do with that woman. It's not doing a whole lot this season, which is fine, honestly. She's been doing too much the last couple of seasons. I'm okay with her being on the show because it seems like now we're at a point where people aren't mad at her and they want like she's being a friend, but that's pretty much it. She doesn't have a storyline aside from the Avi thing. But for Amanda, it's getting to the point now where people are talking about it, which is good. This is what I want.

I want people to talk about it. And all it really took was, you know, the straw that broke the cabals back was, God forbid, you say that to me on this, the day that my infant baby died years ago. Like, God forbid you say anything to me because I will break down. Now it's getting people talking, which is good. Because I was worried that we were going to go the root of, she's a fraud. I don't, we don't deal with her in Beverly Hills. We're not going to talk about her.

When she's out of party, you know, I'll hold the conversation with her. She's going to have insufferable confessionals where we all just kind of point and laugh. but the women don't get mixed up. Now it seems like they're getting involved, which is good, and that's what I want, because that's what we need from somebody like Amanda. Well, she set a weird boundary, right?

And, like, that was the conundrum of last week is when Doret goes in to address her about talking about Doret's divorce and P.K's divorce and her feelings on it and whether or not Doret should be discussing those things, Doret is met with, well, today is the anniversary of my son's passing. How dare you? Okay, not taking away from that awful, awful day by any means, but Dorete didn't know that. Like, she didn't come into that thinking that that was a leg up on you because you weren't going to be on your game.

Like, that was just a really extraordinarily unfortunate coincidence. And that sets the stage for the rest of this episode because when we start out, it's Eric Jane and Rachel, which Rachel Zoh, give her her old show back or something because she is great. In a very mediocre cast, she is fantastic. Like, I've enjoyed her scenes. Like, the way that she actually approaches this with all the news, like in this episode, all the news breaks about her divorce. And like, I love sitting down with somebody like Erica and talking about things because

she does have so much perspective. It's just, it makes me want to like punch myself on the face. when I know that there's a good scene that Erica can be involved in and actually have a good conversation with somebody and she just doesn't. And that's what we've been dealing with for the last couple of years. But she seems to be in a much better place now. And I don't know if it's because Rachel's bringing it out of her. I don't know if because of what Kyle's going through.

It seems like Erica can finally like take a step forward and get back into the mix. I think it's her life's finally settling a little bit so she can extend herself out a bit more. Yeah. But the way Rachel Zelle approaches this whole thing, it's just, it's like a breath of air. Like, we've seen divorce news break for a lot of people on these shows. We've seen scandals. We've seen cheating. We've seen fraud. Whatever it might be. Everybody handles it differently and usually it annoys me. This didn't annoy me one bit. And we've had questions about her ex. We've had questions about what's going on. But when she's talking

about it, it's almost like, yeah, you know, I kind of knew this was going. I mean, this is how my day started. I filed for divorce. It's like, okay, cool. Like, you did something. That's great. Well, that's to your point that when you watch this, you don't remember, that actually happens later. You're right. That does happen later. I totally agree with you. And I like when the news breaks and it's like, I got to talk to my team. And we get the team on the phone on a conference call or assistance next to her.

We're breaking everything down. I do. I love that. And she seems to be giving a very genuine Rachel's up. Like, I believe that this is who she is in her everyday life. And I love to see that. It's not over the top. It's not boisterous.

It's just who she is. And she's playing it so well. This scene with Erica, when they're recapping all that shit that happened between Doreet and Amanda, Erica points out, like, of course, Doreet wouldn't. Everyone knows Doreet would never, nobody would ever do that. There's actually in the Housewives realm,

there's probably a few people that would do that, unfortunately. Yeah. But Doree is not one of that. They haven't circled on their calendar in a very weird way. Yeah, Derreid is not one of those people. But they're starting to, to clue in on, not clue in, but like you said, I think it's starting to get to a point with Amanda

where it's like, it's so insufferable that we need to start addressing some of these things. For example, and they're just dipping a toe in right now because they don't want to go full throttle. No. I think they're trying to feel each other out to see how hard they want to go after Amanda. It's like, does it bother you, just in general, does it bother you when you're in a tight space with someone and they take a phone call montage of the one car ride? We got a full montage in one car ride of multiple phone calls sitting next to Rachel Zoe,

arguably the number one fashion stylist in Beverly Hills, and Erica Jane, who has her own very impressive resume, and Rachel's, or sorry, Amanda in between them trying to go, look at me, look at me, and Rachel calls out, it feels very performative. It's very, I want you to see and hear this. And by the way, and they start to get a little loose, By the way, don't love the name Money Queen. Like, yeah, here we go.

Here we go. Build it up. Well, it's like you said, like they're just dipping a toe in because I do think, again, like Rachel's new to the mix. She's new to the group. I imagine that Erica and Kyle have probably had extensive conversations about Amanda, just not on screen, talking about how they want to approach it. And up until now, it's been, let's just see where this goes.

Is it worth it? It is the vibe I was getting before. Is it worth it? Yeah. Is it worth it? And we've seen, you know, there's different approaches to this. And I already talked about Bose, how she just tried to get as much information out of her as possible. Like, okay, let's see what you say.

Oh, okay. So you are full of complete shit. Great. And then she takes a step back. And I imagine she's, again, talking to somebody like Derreet or talking to, you know, anybody else in the group. So they've probably had these conversations on the outskirts about Amanda. It's just, okay, is this going to, like, even out. Like, even as going far as, like, the phone calls.

And I pointed it out, which probably no one else even realized. before when they took that short trip when they went to Sedona, Amanda was on the laptop the entire time. So she wasn't taking calls, but she's on the laptop, standing up on the fucking plane. It's a 45 minute flight. So it's not that big of a deal. But she was very front and center. Look at me. I'm working. I'm a working woman over here. You guys all need to respect me. But they kind of just show her away like a fly. And that's what we've seen Sutton do. But if it doesn't even out, if she doesn't mellow out a little bit and try to like be a normal, fucking person, then yeah, we do need to step in.

And it's almost like she's gaining power. Like, okay, that's a reed thing that happened last week. That's a, it's a byproduct of us not knocking her down immediately. We should have actually just bopped her as soon as she started talking about money and then made her realize that she's a fraud. Then we wouldn't be in this predicament. But now we're seeing those conversations, which is important to have. I agree.

And I'm glad that they're starting to pick it apart a little bit more. and we get to Kyle going to meet up with Amanda. And again, the underlying message of, you know, her son passing is awful. And it's, I can't imagine. I don't even want to begin to think about that. So of course, we sympathize and empathize with her. And Kyle does too. And Kyle wants to make sure she's okay and get to the bottom of it.

So they go to the canyon creative and they're bopping around there. And Amanda's like, you know, I'm a shell of my former self. I woke up every 30 minutes with my heart pounding. and I realized what I experienced was a physiological threat. And then it starts to take a turn. And as she's talking, and Kyle's also being, Kyle handled this really well, I thought. It was attack energy, which I've never heard before,

but I fucking love that one. That was a new one for me. I could feel her energy and it was attack energy. I don't know what that is, but I love it. Yeah, sure. Okay. And Kyle, like I said, I thought she did as good a job as anybody could in this situation.

Because I think a lot of people would have either rolled their eyes, Gaffod, maybe giggled a little bit as to what she was saying. But as Amanda gets into it, she's like she disrespected me and my son on the anniversary of his death. She did not know that. So my big question was, okay, well, are you upset that she came at you with the P.K. thing and the divorce thing? or are you upset that she somewhat doubled down after you announced that this was the anniversary of your son passing? She doesn't really give an answer. She says it's kind of both because, well, she verbally accosted me.

And that's not what you, that's not a very classy thing to do. That's not what you do at a dinner. That's not, have you watched Housewives before? So your issue really wasn't that it was your son's passing. was the fact that she just came at you, period. Like, that's what the show is, dude. Like, we talk about these things because you're talking about her shit behind her back. So she's bringing it to your face.

That's how this works. And we just said that. Like, she hasn't been clocked yet. So maybe she doesn't know how this works. Maybe she thinks that she can continue to get away with the behavior that she's been portraying herself as having since episode one. Like, I guess maybe. but like you said, this is a housewife show.

So I have no problem with Doreet seeing this. And again, like, it is what it is. Is it sad? Yes, it's sad. Is it, I'm sure, emotional every time that this day comes around each year, absolutely fine. But if I'm Doreet, and this is what I'm trying to get across to you, and you're using this information to do that, like, I don't really think that Dorete doubled down. She's still just trying to get her point across. Like, I'm really sorry that that happened.

and I had no idea that today was that day. We should have another conversation maybe in the future. That's not doubling down. That's, hey, yeah, you're not using this shit to get away from this. Like, I'm still remembering what you do. Like when we go over that scene, Amanda is like, she makes another comment about the divorce thing. Like after that happens.

So then Doret's confused. She's like, well, wait, do you want to do this? Or like, what do I do now? Dorett's in a very precarious position. I thought she did fine. I didn't think that she was like, fuck that. I'm still going after you. I think she was trying to feel it out.

And when Amanda gives another response to the point, there's like, oh, we're still, are we still going? Like, we can do this another time. I don't like, this is a weird thing. But the big thing that comes out of this. Right. But the big thing that happens because of when she decided to, to bring this up is now, unfortunately,

we at home and the ladies at the table are going to sit there and go, okay, is that actually why she's upset or is she using this? And that's what Bose says later on. And that's a horrible thing to even sit here and discuss with you. I don't want to talk about this. This is one of those things that pops up as I'm watching and I go, fuck. Now we have to talk about this. I don't want to talk about this.

It's not to me anyway. It's not really the content as much as it is like I'm better than you almost. like how dare you do this to me like don't don't come after me like this is what i'm going through how dare you come after me in general like i i don't think it's necessarily that she's using that exact situation to deflect as much as it is like you don't get to talk to me like that well and that she just kind of used forever it would have been inappropriate regardless that's amanda's statement yeah yeah yeah so again that just tells me more that she needs to get clocked. Like that's that's what you're telling me right now. Yeah. And, uh, I mean,

she just keeps going and she's like, you know, I'm not going to go to a dinner party feeling emotionally unsafe and have my like it's the most millennial shit ever. And like it, it, it embarrasses me to be part of that generation when people talk like this. It's like, yeah, I'm not going to have my cortisol spike to my nervous system dysregulated. Shut up. Like Kyle's right to too by comparing it immediately to crystal too, because it was very, we talked about that extensively, the way that crystal was going about that whole thing. And look, yeah, there were some weird underlying things there. That was a very different situation where it was like, is Sutton being racist or not being racist?

There was definitely microaggressions happening. Yeah, this is way different because this is information that no one knew. Nobody knew that this was the anniversary of your son die. And if they did, they probably wouldn't want to do anything on that day. Like, hey, if this is something that you try to like spend some time reflecting, every year. We'll move the dinner to the next night. Like, that's the good thing about being housewives is they don't have to really worry what day of the week it is. We can move this to Wednesday night instead of Tuesday night. Give you some time to do what you have to do, grieve,

reflect, whatever it is that you do with your fiance. Go ahead and do that. We'll catch you tomorrow. If that was information that they all had, they would have done it. And again, you're of no obligation to even go to this. Like, hey, I'm not going to be able to come tonight because every year on this day, we spend time as a family remembering my son who passed away. That's also very normal. And we would get that. But instead, you're doing this and you out yourself immediately by saying it would be inappropriate regardless.

Like you're coming after me. So I do like that Kyle immediately gets like PTSD from Crystal where it's like, okay, I don't like this talk. I don't like this language that you're using right now. Did you say cortisol spike? Oh, fuck. God, damn it. Oh, you're coming for my safe space.

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She just seems like super normal, like excited to be there, but like not over the top. Just like this is actually my friend from when I grew up. Like I believe that. And I love that. Yeah, it's a great, great vibes from summer. But they're at dinner with Kyle and Dore. and they're talking divorce stuff because summer went through her own thing and obviously

Kyle and Dorit are going through their thing. And we keep coming back to the same thing when it comes to Kyle. And I think Derreet and the other ladies in the group are starting to, not starting to, but really honing in on the fact that Kyle's not over this. Kyle, I don't, we talked about this, I think episode one this season. I think we talked about it last season. Kyle doesn't really want to move on. And it's, it's starting to be more and more apparent with her confessional.

and that's okay, by the way. I actually, this season has probably been my favorite Kyle season in a very long time. Because she's very aware. She's actually letting us in on these things. And I know that there's no escape, you know, the next scene when she's at Amanda's, but talking about it more. And I think it's just nice, too, because you're able to have a conversation with somebody like Derreet, who you've been budding heads with.

And Durit's going through a similar situation, but it's not the same because I don't think that Derreet wants to get back with PK. She's still very much fuck PK And I don't see that really changing Kyle because she's opening up a little bit more And again, she's not opening up a lot But she's opening up a lot for Kyle In confessionals and with the other women

So you're able to actually have a conversation Where she's not closed off Like this is very open for Kyle To be able to discuss this with Doreet And talk about this with Bose and Summer Who she just met to be able to say like Yeah, you know, I didn't really think about filing Or show a little bit of sympathy

And be like yeah, you know other people are going through things I understand that, but I'm still holding on to this. And it gives you so much more perspective into how she feels about Doreet and Pekay. She's still so wrapped up in her and Mo and trying to get back together. And she would get back together with Mo in an instant. And we all know that, but it's not working out that way. So she's going through a lot. She's not really paying a whole lot of mind to the other shit that people are going through,

just because it's been a little bit longer than what you've been going through. And I think Doreet understands that now, too, that it's way different. And we're able to make jokes about talking to PK. We're able to make jokes about Maricio fucking walking in, which was planned, but still funny. We're able to make jokes about that. We're in the past. We weren't. And it was a very closed off situation.

So at the very least, we're not doing the same shit that we've been doing with Kyle for the last three years where she's not sharing any of this. We know actually fully for the first time in years what Kyle is thinking. And that's a win for us. It's a huge win. And her just sitting there talking about when they travel as a family, because we know that they still bop around together. We've seen pictures. We actually recently they were together somewhere and they were they were pretty cozy. I forget they might have been an aspen but um they were they were they were that's what it was. Mo is going to be on uh shaws this week sitting down with MJ. No idea why. I don't

know why I have no idea. I don't know. I got nothing for you but so he is on everything. He's he's in his contract. Well, I don't know what other shows he's going to be on but he does pop up. up in this show right when they're talking about whether or not, because Doreet finally asks Kyle, and I think this is a big step forward in their relationship and in them communicating about this stuff, because she's like, if the opportunity were to present itself, would you want to get back with Mo? And poof, Moe appears out of nowhere. What are the chances? That wasn't planned at all. And look, as Beau says, like, I get it. Like, the guy's smooth he's very smooth he is him walking around that table introducing himself giving a little kiss

walking around just cock of the walk he is very smooth i i'm a little annoyed that he walked in that early because i wanted to hear what kyle's answer was we know what kyle's answer is but i want her to be able to say it to d'reate sure that would have been nice to hear but der reet finds an opening because she's like mo i'd love to sit down with you because you've heard one side of the story You need to hear both. And Mo's like, I'll sit down and I'm not going to say a word. You could say everything that you want to say. I was like, do you just practice on how to sound good?

Like, do you just know what this? It works because that was a lovely answer. And I think that that's also important for Doreet and her journey with P.K. And her journey with Kyle and all of them as a whole. They're weirdly all intertwined somehow because of their past relationships. So I think that's a big step for everyone to be able to move forward. but Mo departs and they start talking about the dinner and everything that happened between Doreet and Amanda.

Now, Doreet says once again, I had no idea it was the anniversary or I would not have done it. And after I said sorry, because she does, it goes to the clip of the actual scene. She says, I'm so sorry. And she tries to change the subject or say we can do it another time. That's when Amanda comments back about the P.K. divorce thing. and then she gets confused as to whether or not they're going to talk about all of that stuff. Kyle relays that she saw her today wants to have a sit down and that's when Bowes steps in. And Bose says what we're all thinking a little bit, no one wants to say it out loud,

but we're all kind of thinking it. But Bose can relate. Bose has also lost a child. So Bose can relate to this whole thing. So she chimes in and says it felt to me like she's using it as a defense. And that's pretty disturbing if she's just. trying to throw the heat off of her by bringing this whole thing up, which, yeah. Yeah, I mean, somebody had to say it at the end of the day.

And there's a lot of things that happen, especially in the Housewives world, where things go unspoken that I do think should be spoken. For somebody like Amanda, who there's a lot of questions about her tactics, there's a lot of questions about her actual life. And she's doing these things that are, I don't know, I don't really know how to say it either. but she's doing things that are just very abrasive. She's doing things that are very much out of character.

And she's talking about how you don't do things like that. That's not a very classy move. Like I haven't really seen her be classy yet. And yet she expects that from other people. So it should be questioned, honestly. Like if she was emotionally breaking down and just left, then I don't think Bose would say that. I don't really think that that would come up. And if it did, it would be like, okay, Bose, maybe take a step back.

But she kept going. And she stayed for the dinner. And she kept going after Doreet. So it's like, okay, if you're going to keep doing this, we do have to ask that question at some point. And if that is the case, like, yeah, that is pretty disturbing for you to use that. So I don't know, but we do find out that she was on the cult for two years. Yeah.

How about that? I guess that's all over her website that I tried to navigate through. Didn't really work out that well. There's a lot of pictures of her. I didn't see that one. What I see happening, because the DUI, she apparently had a DUI at some point. I have a feeling that she's going to be one of those housewives that once she gets on TV, a lot of stuff starts coming out about her past.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, that happens a lot too. It's, I don't know. In a weird way, I get it. You know, if you were part of a cult and now I know what you do for work and what you're doing to bring in money for your family, there's some parallels that we could probably start to draw there. I know what she's doing by getting ahead of it. Like, yeah, if I read a blog about how I was in a cult,

it's going to be interesting, it's going to get people into it. And then she's going to turn it into, once I got out, I realized so many different things. And I started to feel the energy of money. No, anyone with a brain. That sounds pretty culty. No, yeah, it seems like it picked up a couple tricks of the trade there and just used it for this. You're trying to hide it, but it's not going to go well.

especially when you've got people like Bose breathing down your neck, when she's ultimately and unbelievably smarter than you are. This is not going to work out in your favor. Nope. It certainly is not, but it's going to be interesting to watch the fallout because I do think, and I think that would actually result in a somewhat interesting season. If this Amanda thing comes to a head the right way and it galvanizes the group together,

like that's, I said that early on this season. I was like maybe what we needed was a common enemy and not an Anne-Marie, but like somebody as weird as Amanda to bring this whole group together. And we might actually get a good product out of this show. I do see a path forward with that. Is it a like a big path forward? No, but there is a chance.

There's a sliver. It's a secret shortcut they have to find. Yeah, it's a plug and play. We talked about this in beginning of the season when we had questions about who Amanda was and what her role was going to be on this show. if we saw it going down this path, it's not going to last for season after season after season, but it's a good little storyline to throw in for a show that's been failing.

It's been boring as shit. So why not? It gives us, not only does it give the women a common enemy, but it gives us a common enemy. I mean, if we have nothing to look at Amanda and be like, wow,

I really like her and I appreciate what she's doing, if we're annoyed by her and we get to watch these women who we've been annoyed at for the last couple of years, go after her. That's going to be entertaining for a show. for a short amount of time. They do still need that long fix for this show, but maybe this is a kick in the ass.

Maybe this will work. That's kind of what I'm hoping. But then we get that Rachel scene where her divorce goes super duper public, despite trying to keep it under wraps. And again, I love this scene. You love this scene watching her deal with this whole thing. And she's like, I don't, didn't sign a pre-nup, but I don't want to pay him.

I don't want him to pay me. I just want a clean break. This is not the dude I'm married. he's a completely different guy fuck him and uh yeah well done rachel we're team rachel all the way that was such that was a fun scene honestly because again we we were unsure we're like uh maybe not talk about your ex like that because he can't defend himself but at this point we like her enough where this is a very funny and it's a very practical approach too where we haven't seen this like there's no doubt in my mind she's not trying to make this a storyline

She just kind of hit her wits end. She says that she met or when she was sending her kids away to camp that the ex and Her girlfriend showed up and she's like, what the fuck is this? This is enough for me. Like you're moving on. You've got a girlfriend. You feel like you're close enough with this girl that you're going to bring her around our children, especially when they're going away to camp and you're going to confuse the shit out of them,

probably. Yeah, this is enough for me. I'm filing divorce right now. She just goes and does it, has a quick sit down with her team, talks about it, talks about how it's everywhere and then we're going to move forward like i i don't think that she's using this for a storyline at all which is great and that's what i want and further proof of that is when she was talking to one of her kids about the girlfriend or whatever she was talking about to one of the kids about being at his dad's he was very clear like he wants to be at mom's house

she didn't hammer that home she didn't talk to us about it a lot she didn't go to the group and talk to them about it was uncomfortable it was just it was real and good and like that happens all the time for children of divorce. So it was nice to see that in a way that was just what it was. Like, yeah, this is what it is. And it's not, I'm going to then talk about this in all of my confessionals moving forward or going to exploit my children by talking about this too much. And I'm going to trash my ex-husband who we don't get to see on screen. She's like, yeah, I mean, it made me really emotional because he wants to stay here. But at the same time, he does have to be with his dad. It's like, okay, cool. Thank you for that. Now let's move forward. Yeah, that's awesome. She, she is,

she is doing a phenomenal job this year. But this scene, my God, this made me sad, dude. And you know I was a big Kyle, like I was Kyle's biggest fan until we started covering this show. And that's when you, shoot. But this brought me back to like the good old days. And Kyle and Mo are going over to see Amanda's house, which is obviously their old house. And it's, it's just a whole flashback. And it's this walk down memory lane of Kyle and Mo and their family and the happy times.

And it's like that house symbolizes. And I wrote this down the quote unquote good old days. That was their happy times before everything got crazy before Mo started making fucking money. Like he started making fucking money in that house. Then they moved. And this whole tour is pretty much just the big question mark of one, where did we go wrong? Two, is there a path forward?

And three, when we moved out of this house, was that the nail in the coffin? Mm-hmm. Yep. This was a very emotional scene. And again, we are applauding Kyle for at least sharing things. This is just, it was going to happen. The second she sets foot in that house and starts walking around, especially with Moe, I think it would have been worse if Mo wasn't there.

Actually, I don't know. I don't know. Because his, his, the way he deals. with Kyle when she's having emotional moments is always so uncomfortable for me because he is not addressing

what he knows she's feeling and that bothers me. He's always like, he walks in and he's like, what's up? And she's like, he's like, oh, like the memories? Well, yeah, like the kids and their birthdays.

No, dude, she's thinking about you, you fucking idiot. And you know that. But like he knows that but at the same time like they're divorced or separate. I know. But they're separate and he wants to continue doing what he's been doing. And we can tell that he's fine with that.

Kyle's not fine with that. But does he then need to take it upon himself to make her feel better when he knows that he's the reason why? Like I think I think it's a weird situation for everyone. I, us included mostly. But like in a way, I don't want him to go and really comfort her. like a husband because he's not really her husband. I want them to get back together.

I know you want her to, yeah, I know you want them to get back together. But I'm trying to like understand where he's coming from. Yes, he is a doofus. Yes, he's like, the embodiment of a jock in like an 80s movie where it's like, oh, yeah, emotions. I remember those.

Well, he literally walks and goes, what's up? Yeah. Like, were you crying? And this is funny too because this scene I thought was going to piss me off more because Amanda was there and she was really going to hammer home, like all the different things that she did. Like, the things she did to the house are fine except for the foyer. The foyer, like, getting rid of that tile was unbelievable.

That was such a cool look for walking. Somebody in our comments said that tile was horrible. Shut up. That tile was great. What do you guys know about interior design? But aside from that, it's like, okay, this is fine. And she wasn't being annoying, which I thought she was going to be. I thought she was going to walk around that house and say, look how much better it looks

or something along those lines. She didn't really do that, which was good. She gave Kyle and Moe some space to walk around and relive all. of those moments. Which again probably told her to go away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck off. Go put your kids to bed.

But instead we get Kyle just really going through everything. And Mo, I mean, part of it is yes, he's unemotional in that sense. But he is also a real estate guy. So he probably genuinely was looking at the changes. Like, wow, I never. That looks incredible. Like, that's a great move.

I'm so happy you did that. This room looks better now because you did that. He's not thinking of it like, oh, this was my house. we've got so many memories. He's looking at it like an investment, like an asset. And he's like, oh, yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense. I'm happy you opened up this bathroom. I'm happy you opened up this closet.

Like, that's actually a really good move. I wanted to do that. So there's so many different lines to all of this. Thankfully, Amanda doesn't butter nose into all of this bullshit. But instead, we get that really nice moment, well, you know, sad moment for Kyle, walking out just completely losing it. And Mo's like, all right, we can go. Like, we don't have to wait for Amanda to come downstairs after putting the kids to bed

and debrief. You don't want to see, you don't want Amanda to see you crying right now. No. Because that's even if Amanda didn't suck, it's still going to make Amanda feel bad. Like, oh, fuck. Like this is your house. Yeah, I didn't think about this. But yeah, why don't you just leave?

All right. Yeah, we'll see you later, Amanda. And again, it's nice to see this. I think this was inescapable. I think Kyle going into this house was always going to lead down this path no matter what. So this was going to be one of those moments. And again, I'm applauding Kyle because she's sharing those moments with us. instead of doing what she did in the last couple of years.

Yeah, no, it's nice. It's nice to see her let her walls down. And, you know, when they do have that hug and they go their separate ways, I felt so bad. I was like, bet me Kyle sat there for like five minutes in her car, just like, taking some deep breaths, trying to get, get her shit together. And most part, like, all right, later. And just went to the bar.

She said that later, too. She's like, I cried for two hours after seeing her house. Yeah, like, it's just sad, man. And it's sad to watch. Because, and I think that this is another thing that's adding to her having a much better season this year is we know that she's been on this journey over the past two, three seasons ever since her and Moe separated of trying to figure out who she is, what her life is without Mo and the kids. And, you know, she had her Morgan Wade phase. And obviously she is now after that. I think that was like the initial breakup.

They separated. She was trying to explore, trying to figure herself out. And I think now she's kind of settling into her new normal and she's looking around. And I think that it's, it's great for us, the audience to be able to be let into those moments of like I feel like that's what we're watching because she's opening up. We're watching her settle into what is my life now. And the fact that she's finally vulnerable to talk about that is making for much better scenes. So I do applaud her for that. Yeah.

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Like, what is Amanda going to say about this whole thing? And instead, we get to when they moved out, it's like, oh, you know, 2017, but then we leased it for a while before we didn't know what to sell. It's like, yeah, you know, and then we bought it in 2021. Oh, I shouldn't say, I bought it. It was my money. We renovated, but I bought it. And Rachel is now like, she's over it. She's like, why would you say that?

Why would you add that? That doesn't add any value to the conversation. No, it's absolutely bizarre the way that she talks. And again, I'm very happy that we've gotten to this. point where people are catching those little things that she does there and there, just to fucking prove a point to who. So, like, these people who probably have more money than you do? That's stupid.

Definitely. They definitely do. It doesn't make any sense. And Doreet arrives. Then Kyle's trying to feel it out. She's like, Doreet's here. Actually, you know what? I feel kind of empowered.

Okay. Cool. What? Why? And then as she's walking in, Doret's the birthday girl, by the way. This is a birthday dinner for Erica Jane and Doreet. What time were we supposed to be here, by the way? Stop.

Stop. I just don't. Why are we? What are you doing? It drives me crazy. She drives me crazy. Now, my one question. And maybe I forgot.

Who's Natalie? Natalie is Rachel's friend. Okay. Natalie got a happy ending. So, yeah, she did. Good for her. Erica. I didn't see that story going.

that direction. I thought it was just, he was a really hot masseuse. It was just, it was an out of body experience. And I thought she was just going to stop there. Nope. We're going to share all the details.

We're going to get really into this. And Erica wants that guy's number immediately. Erica loves that. She's like, finally, somebody in this fucking group is talking about having sex. She gave her like a hell yeah, brother. But amidst all of this,

like they're having a good time. And the reason I pointed that out is because tables, vibing. Amanda is just staring daggers through Dorit, rolling her eyes. She gets up and leaves the table. And when she leaves, we actually get a really nice moment where Kyle makes a toast for the birthday girls. And we're seeing these pieces of Dorit and Kyle's relationship be put back together, which we all want.

We don't want to continue to watch this feud year in and year out. Derreet's opening up to it. Kyle's opening up to it. They're making an effort. They're not being caddy. It's fun. We're having a good time. Amanda returns.

Our chairs are really close together. Yeah. Yeah, because there's a lot of people at the table. Amanda, what do you mean? It's a standard table. Just watching everybody else

react to the things that she's saying now is very fun too, because you can see, like, other people are bonding over the fact that they know that this woman's full of shit. Like, Sutton and Bose are not close whatsoever,

and both of them are locking eyes. Like, you fucking hear this? Do you believe this? What's going on here? It's going to bring other people. people back together. It's going to repair the rest of the friendships in this group because they're all going to realize this woman's full of shit. And they're going to realize, oh, wow, you're thinking the same thing I am right now. Let's get rid of her. Let's get her the hell out of

here. That's what I'm saying. It might have been the necessary evil. As you said, it's a short fix, but maybe it's the kick in the ass that we need. And Doreet rips the bandaid off. Hey, it's a heavy night. It's a heavy moment. And I'm glad to see you tonight. Love to clear the air. and Amanda's like, well, would you like to go somewhere and talk about it? And Doreet gives her a lesson in Housewives. No, no. We can do it right here.

We're good. I think that I'm taking a different thought to that one, though, because I do think it's more you're going to spew some bullshit and I want other people around to hear it. Not necessarily what we usually see, which is like usually things get resolved when the full group is around because you can have a third and fourth party interject here and there to try to fix things where it's just trying to change.

whatever your level of thinking is. This is way more, I think, talking about how Doreet views Amanda. Like if you and I go over there by ourselves, you might say some things, I might say some things, and the story is going to change. And you're going to say that I said this or my intent was that or whatever it might be. And also, I want the rest of these women to hear what you have to say because it doesn't make a ton of sense to me. And we saw that even when Amanda and Kyle were sitting down.

When they're talking about how Doreet's approach was, Doreet did say, like maybe at a later date we can sit down and talk about this. You immediately went to Kyle and said, she never even said that. She never even brought that up. It was here now or never. And it's like, no, she said we need to talk about it later when you're better, not right now. So do this in front of the group so you can't change my words. Yeah.

And her response to that was, well, I need to be able to go to a dinner party without being verbally accosted. Now, if we know anything about the Beverly Hills group, if you're going to use big words like that. They're going to take it very seriously. And Doreet does. She goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And Amanda, seemingly, and Bose clocks it, pulls up the phone to make sure that the definition on Webster.com is in fact what she's trying to say. Boo. I literally wrote down, Boo. Webster's Dictionary. No. Uh-uh. Boo. What are you doing? It's so embarrassing. Like it's so because now you're not even holding on to the, the, her doing that on your, the anniversary of your son passing.

Now it's simply that she came at you the wrong way. That's not how you do things. It's not classy. It's not demure. No, that's what we do on housewives. And the way that she quote unquote came at you, by the way, that was not a verbal accosting at all. That was a questioning because once again,

you, Amanda, are talking shit behind her Dorit's back. You're talking about her divorce. That's not your business. But you also, she always speaks in such a matter-of-fact tone, too, which drives me nuts. It's like you don't know the ins and outs of this at all. You're just going to sit there and say like, oh, well, this could be bad when you get to the actual divorce hearing. Even if it is, it's not your business. You just met this lady.

You don't even know P.K. you don't want to but no but she's she's like a hair away from being a pk apologist like she's getting there she's so close and i do think that this might actually set her over the edge where she starts asking those questions well what did pk actually do are we only taking durit's word for this and then she tries to bring kyle into it and i don't know where kyle's going to land because kyle's been doing a little bit of middling i hope that she's more so on der reet's side but i will i can't imagine her sitting down with Amanda and Amanda twisting her words and then bringing it back to Derreet. I'm a little worried about something like that, but I know what Amanda's going to do.

She's going to go about that approach. If you're acting like this and you're verbally accosting me, maybe we start looking into how you're treating your ex-husband. Maybe we're looking into how you do that. Like if she goes down that path, it's going to be bad for her because I do think that the rest of the women will rally around Derrete regardless of the situation. But it's going to be very interesting to see what approach she takes because she does think she's infallible. She does think she's bulletproof and she's not obviously, but I do wonder what she's going to do. Well, I think Kyle would take the approach of I'm friends with both of them.

So don't talk about them rather than take a side. I think she would play neutral, but anti-amanda. And I think you're right. I think Amanda thinks that she's bulletproof. But if Derreet asking her a question got under her skin, she has no idea. Like she has yet to even be in involved in somebody else going through like an actual altercation on this show like we haven't had a blow up yet so she doesn't know and that's where i'm like have you watched the show ever probably not i think if i had a guess she probably went into this thinking oh they're housewives it's reality tv how tough can it be how smart can be probably i'm the smartest woman in the room a lot smart you yeah well let's get to some questions but not before i announced this uh just

open up my phone and Tamara Judge was uninvited to the ultimate girls trip finale due to her behavior while filming in OC. I talked about this with Ryan Bailey. These fucking reports need to go away. I'm tired of knowing what happens on these shows before it even happens. I agree. There's so many different times where things happen. Like, I'll use Vicky and Porsche as a good example here.

Everybody's freaking out because Porsche unfollowed Vicky. It's like, okay. we don't know what happens. Like, yes, I can probably guess that Bickey asked Portia about what her mortgage is when she's actually going through, like, losing her house. But at the same time, I don't want to know that that happened. I wouldn't be able to watch this on screen. I want to be able to be surprised at the end of Ultimate Girl's Trip when Tamara does something

that only Tamara can do. And then it comes out that she was uninvited. Like, let me view it in my time. And not with bloggers, getting all this information. And I feel like for, especially for Ultimate Girl's Trip, they're allowing. a lot of social media presence and Andy's allowing it, Bravo's allowing it. And I do not know why.

Like you do not really need to market this that much, especially on social media. There's enough people on this show and there's so many goddamn guests on this show. Everybody's going to tune in regardless. We don't need to do this. Keep things secret. No. First 12 minutes of next week's episode.

I do. They did that for Summerhouse. Summerhouse comes out tomorrow night and they already have the first eight episode or the first eight minutes of the episode. Like, no, enough of this. Never understand it. But let's get to some questions. From out of office, Mama, did Scamanda and Rachel manage to breathe the life back in the Beverly Hills?

In different ways. Yes, they have. Yeah, it's looking like it. From hi, my name is Sandy, is steal off making films for his online self-improvement academy. Yeah, you should see my website. It's all pictures of me. I think she's comparing me to Amanda. Yeah, that's mean.

Don't do that. That's funny. What would you call it? Like she's the money queen. What would you be? Sober king. Sober king. Yeah.

Oh, man. From Lindsay Bucks, guess for how many? Oh, okay, we got an over under here. Over under for how many times Amanda will tell us her husband is poor this season? She's done it. By my count, she's done it four times. Four times. Let's go over under eight.

Have we gotten? the midseason trailer yet i know that comes later it's not like actually in the mid so we'll we're on episode like seven yeah i think we are too let's assume we're a little before halfway i think the over under should be eight and a half yeah i'm still gonna go over though that first trip oh man that first trip when she talks about how she spends money to like take her family on trips that her husband doesn't have it's gonna hit so hard uh-huh i'm hammering the over yeah uh from blacksmith Trev thoughts on Amanda not filming the after shows for the remainder of the season.

Those after shows are so pointless and so stupid. I hate them so much. At the same time, I will answer your question. I don't know that I forget who she was even sitting with. I saw a couple of screen grabs, but I imagine they probably just mixed things around because whoever she was sitting with was probably tired of sitting with her. Yeah, I was going to say it's probably from other castmates

not wanting to do that with her if I had the guess. I don't think it means that she's not going to be at the reunion or she's done or anything like that. She filmed the whole season. From Colie Marie 1, I'm not watching, but what is one thing you would say to convince me to watch? The galvanization of the OGs against Amanda is making for really interesting TV right now. There is, it's showing us signs of life. And also, Rachel Zoe is very interesting to watch. She's not like highly entertaining.

Like she's not goofy and weird and like out there. she's just solid quintessential good middling or like a middle what do they do in Beverly Hills crystals diamonds diamonds yeah

she's she's a middle diamond in the making if she doesn't get her own show yeah she's she's just extremely solid like we just really we need her on this show right now if she wasn't on this show we'd be in a very different place let's do a couple more we always got to get one of these in

from Linney 5,000 thank you for recapping so I don't have to watch the episode You're welcome. We are mothers. Guys. From Newbia 7272, 72, was Amanda vetted or did Kyle get her casted? I don't know.

I don't think that Kyle got her casted. I think that they probably, I don't know if any of these women got her casting because it doesn't seem like she really knows anybody. But I would imagine they probably did ask Kyle like, hey, what do you know about Amanda? I know that she bought your house.

Do you know anything more about that? And Kyle's like, no. I was like money queen yeah vetted again it just depends on the approach from production and the scouts

that go out there did they vet her and say oh this woman's full of shit this is going to be fun this is exactly what this show needs they need a common enemy

or did they not really vet her and they just said oh she's rich and she bought Kyle's house she'll work yeah probably that one uh Meg Norm

Norm just because this is a funny funny word Amanda is in the running for the quote. W-H-O-A-T, worst housewife of all time, the quote. There's definitely some others

that could easily win that award. Yeah, but she's definitely honorable mention. If not, we'll see how far she falls this season. I'll do one more. From Ryan. Why not? Ryan Stom in 83.

No question, but a man is annoying. She doesn't fit in with this group. No, but for some reason it's working for the show, Ryan. It's working for the show. For now.

That's all the. matters. Yep. But yeah, you know, signs of life. It's exciting. Sines of life. That's what we're excited about here. Yeah, buddy. But we'll see what happens next week. Until then, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Well, Robbros are out of here. Oh, please, not that music. That music gives me nightmares from my childhood. Could we get something a little bit lighter? Some lighter music here. Are you a fan of true crime TV shows? And what about Unsolved Mysteries, the show that jumpstarted all of our love of true crime. I'm Ellen Marsh.

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