Bros & Shows - Kyle's Off I Guess and Sutton's Esophagus (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

Whats up Bro's? We got the Holiday spirit and we are ready to recap some RHOBH. In today's episode, Kyle opens up more about what's been happening in her life. During her therapy session we get to see how things are effecting her such as her friend passing, and the fallout from her sisters. Erica Jayne is thriving after locking down her residency out in Vegas. Things heat up between Sutton and Dorit when Crystal and Sutton call her out for the claims that Sutton is an alcoholic. However, Sutton is on cloud nine celebrating 4 years of her store being open and rightfully so. But AnneMarie blows it by belittling Suttons medical issues and making us very nervous that she's a nurse if she thinks that a restricted esophagus is a "made up" issue... All that and some rose and thorn, some Dr. Seuss theories and more!! This episode is brought to you by Bubly Sparkling Water! No sugar, no calories, all smiles! Go to Bubly.com to find a store near you. Time Stamps: Rose and Thorn (5:30) RHOBH (11:45) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host. Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shoots Magoutes. What's up, dude?

Finally back to 100%. Welcome back, sir. Thank you. Happy to be back. Rough week, you know? You've had an actual rough week. I've just been recovering. You had a self-inflicted, rough. Yeah, I'm just old and can't hang anymore.

So when I go out like that on a weekend, it takes me like four days to recover, but I'm back. Counter. Counter. I have a counter for you, make yourself feel a little bit better. Okay. You always say that. Like, I'm old, I can't hang anymore,

but you always continue to hang. Oh, I hang. You hang. In the moment, I hang. Right. But you never shy away from the hang. You just won't get a text for me for like three days. Right.

I will because it's business related, but most people don't. So I actually feel privileged. But yeah, I want to make you feel a little bit better about yourself. You do hang. It's just the aftermath in which you're no longer a young and. Well, I couldn't even play video games. Like, it was that bad. Monday and Tuesday night, I was like, nope.

Yeah, I was curious, actually, because I was getting on the sticks. I'm like, where are you at? I don't understand. Not even asleep, just dead. I was on a couch. I think I watched, finally finished suits. I know we talked about this a couple of weeks now.

Fucking, if anybody's watching that, I'm not going to spoil anything, but it ends abruptly. There's no actual... I guess it got canceled. That would imagine got canceled, and then they're like,

all right, let's just wrap this shit up. That's not a show where people were... Look, it's entertaining as well. It was on USA. Probably or like Spike. Like... Blue Mountain State was on Spike. Fucking love that.

But, like, what was it called before that? Because it was, like, TV for dudes, gas? Oh, maybe. Fuel TV? Fuel TV, I think. That's something different. No, I think fuel TV is that one that bars have contracts with. Like, you'll see.

Oh, like the chive TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the chive TV. Like, there's no chance of that. Like, how does that company still work? I guess it's just every bar in America has one TV in it. That just continues to play. And it's just, like, weird videos that we saw on TikTok or Instagram like six months ago. Like snowboarding fails.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, you know, I still like to watch. watch what what is that's guy i went to google that spike tv was something before it was literally labeled as like tv for men and it was like spike ball or slam ball i mean um like all the dude shows all the dude shows they had reruns of the man show like stuff like that on there yeah that would ruin jimmy kimmel's career if anybody knew that that happens that's so fucking funny to me that jimmy kimmel is like and i think jimmy kimmel's great like whatever i don't he is but like he's so now he'll like he refrains from jokes and he like stands up for other people it's

I was like, dude, you had a show where you had girls jumping on a trampoline at the end of the show. Ziggy, Ziggyzoggy, Ziggyzoggy. I used to watch that when I was like nine. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's why we are the way that we are today. Oh, thanks a lot. Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Ferreira? Carolla. Adam Ferreira.

What are we talking about? I don't know, dude. What a rant. What a rant. Like TV. He's getting in there. TV for men. Just really firing it up here.

You know what? That was the counterpart to Bravo TV. Yeah, I guess. Yes, it was. Before we broke down the barriers. Yeah. Because we're fucking trailblazers. Look at us.

This is what we're here for. But yeah, so TV got me through the week. Sleeping got me through the week. And I found a new, there was a trend on Twitter about, it was just like all different like funny Christmas memes, but like takes on Christmas stories and Christmas songs and all that, whatever. I want to share one. Oh, yay.

This one stuck out to me and it's so fucking funny. Okay. You're going to love it. So this was a tweet that I saw. It said, who feels celebrating Christmas? This means there was a who Jesus. And I can't stop imagining what kind of insane sousical contraption they would have to crucify people. A who crux?

A who crux. Yeah. Is that what Harry Potter was going for? That's such a good theory. I never thought of that. It's great. It's incredible. I was laughing out loud at that one.

I sent that to a couple different people. I think I sent it to you. I don't know. I don't know, dude. It's been a hell of a week. One of those weeks. Yeah. But yeah, I wanted to share that in lieu of, uh, not a lot of current events because I wasn't

keeping current this week. I was living in the past in my misery. I, I'm still stuck on the other thing. Hussifix. Hussifix. A Hussifix? A Hussifix. Okay.

I like that. Yeah. Who would, oh, I want to do all of the biblical characters as Dr. Seuss characters now. Hoos is pilot? Houdis. Huda. We got to move on, but I could do this all very long. Who would the Grinch be?

Probably Houdis. He's Houdis? Yeah. Okay. The Grinch is Houdis. Well, in a different way, I guess he regretted his actions and killed himself. The Grinch regretted his actions and brought Christmas back. Wait, who killed himself?

Judas. Oh, I thought you said, who's this? I was like, now we're... Oh, dude. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't want to... We're not getting political. Oh, Jesus.

Oh, who's this? Let's do our rose and thorn. That might be my rose for the week. Yeah, it was pretty good. But yeah, let's rose and thorn it up. Let's hear what you got. All right. So I'm going to start with my...

My thorn is actually the funniest, and I love it so much, but it's a thorn because it's for Matt Rogers. He's not here to defend himself, but this is some next level, like, supreme hating, and this is the shit that gets me out of the bed in the morning. somebody commented on the YouTube video of us with Matt and time stamped different times

and said, Sir, stop with the nose picking. It's gross. Also do not trust people who have a smile or smirk as their resting face, just saying. Wow. And it was Matt, like, he was just like, you know, rubbing some, like, dead skin scratching his nose or something.

I didn't say any... It wasn't anything egregious, but that's next level hating. Wow. I love that. I actually forgot about my rose. I just put my phone right back down. My rose, this is, you, you know, people coming together.

Somebody left a review and said, how about them cowgirls? I mean, boys, cowboys. Couldn't resist, but gave us five stars. Eh. It's okay. I'm on the next to you. It's fine.

Yeah. You get your week. Yeah, you get your week. We split the series, by the way. Let's not forget. Yeah. One and one. We're not going to get into it.

I don't want to. Fair enough. All right. My Rose and Thorne, I've got both, and then I've got a community thorn that I think is funny. I would like to share with the group. And this one, I'm going to start with my thorn,

and then I'll do my community thorn, then I'll do, or no, Thorne Rose community thorn, but my thorn is this. And this is also in reference to Matt Rogers, which is funny. And this comes from YouTube and says,

I'm sorry, no, it's supposed to say no offenses. I'm sorry, not offense. I feel like Matt is the host, and these two are Sutton's fans. You need to be logical as a host

as far as I'm concerned. Wait a minute, wait a minute, but we're the hosts. Yeah, I know. Well, we got to be logical. It's so funny. because I feel a good interviewing tactic is to allow your guests to talk as much as they want.

That's the whole point that they're there for. Yeah. We ask a question. You stimulate the question a little bit. Let them go for a while. And then we ran them back in. That's the whole point. So there's no winning, apparently.

Yeah, you can't win. But, hey, if we were lucky enough to have Matt Rogers as our host frequently, we'd be doing pretty well. Sure. Yeah. Come on on, Matt. Anytime. And my rose is this. And this comes from an Apple podcast review.

and I always like to read these ones because this is what we're going for, but it's from NCMCP5. It says just plain awesome, five stars. The Bravo Bros feel just like that, like my bros. I'm not a podcast fan typically, but I look forward to this every week. I don't have many people that I can talk Bravo with, but these guys make it feel like they're friends in my living room just chatting away. And there's more to it than that.

But it ends with long-lived this podcast and the bros, which I will read. But that's the goal here. We want you guys to feel like we are just your bros hanging out, chit-chatting about Bravo. So when I see that resonate with somebody, I got to call it out because that's literally the goal. Long live the Kings. Long with, well, I didn't say that. See, why, never mind. My community Thorne is this. And for those of you that don't know, we are now with big IP media. That is our new company. It's our new home. We are super excited to get started with them. Shout out to Scott Porch. But my thorn is this because we, as we switch all of our stuff over,

notifications from our platform in which we put the podcast out, like, basically, where I uploaded to. And we got an email to, like, wrap up your year with this podcast company. We haven't really started with them yet. So they sent us the wrong podcast numbers, but they didn't put a name on it. And it just said that our total earned for the year was half a million that we earned like 30 grand from non-host rate out. It was an astronomical amount of money.

got sent to our inbox and I was like, oh my God. And Shooter sent it to me first and he's like, what, what is this? And we both knew it probably wasn't ours. No, we knew it wasn't ours. There was like a point, probably in there. There was like a point five percent where I'm like, maybe there was an oversight and they owe us this much money. They don't.

We got a follow up email that said, we're so sorry. That's not you guys. And that, that hurt a little bit. I'm not going to lie. You know what? It gives us something to strive for. I'm going to save it out there making that money. I'm saving that screenshot for the rest of my life.

And until we get to that number, I will not be satisfied. Are you going to delete the screenshot if we get to that number? No, I'm going to put our number up next to it. This is real. I'm going to put it up in a picture frame? No, no, no, fuck it. That's tacky. No, no, no, just for us.

Look at us. We're rich. Yeah, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm not an asshole. I'm going to put it in a picture frame next to each other, and I'm just going to put it in here somewhere. Not where anyone can see it on the, like, filming, but where we could see it. Give it a little kiss every time we come in here? Yeah, something to shoot for.

Like the Notre Dame, like, play like a champion today? Exactly. Something to shoot for and then goal achieved. I think that's important. I like that. Yeah. But anyway, let's move on to the Bravo stuff. And let me preface this real quick.

All right. So we have a new format that we're going to put into play. Nothing really changes. It's just how you get the episodes. So we are going to drop today's episode in three parts. That doesn't mean that you have to wait any longer to listen to the next part. That just means it's going to drop congruently on the same day. So there will be three episodes per day that we drop.

So that means on Tuesday, however many shows are in that episode, it will be stretched out over the episodes accordingly. So you no longer need timestamps. I'll still time stamp it for you. But you'll be able to just listen to the episode that has to do with the show you want to listen to, which I think makes everything easier for everybody. Yeah, I think everybody's going to like that because, to be honest, the majority of people that listen probably do skip. If you don't watch, say, Miami, you're going to skip through Miami. You don't watch Salt Lake. You're going to skip through that.

There are a lot of people out there that listen to the whole episode, and we love those people the most. It's heart to you. It's like picking your favorite child. Sure. Those are the people that we love the most. Yeah, the ones that don't like the other kids. But we understand. If you don't watch a show, you're not going to listen to two idiots, talk about it.

So go to the next episode. Go listen to Beverly Hills if you want to do that. And we're going to make it special each time. Yep, exactly. It'll be its own standalone episode, but it kind of cleans things up a little bit. It makes a little neat and tidier for us and for you, the audience. But without further ado, let's talk about a little Beverly Hills, a little Robha, a little... Rob-huh?

Rob, huh? That's the new take on it for this season. Rob, huh? Scared question mark? But we start out and we get like a little weird kind of cut scene where it seems current, then it flashes back a little bit. It's the intro and it's Kyle and Mo. It's just kind of like a recap of what's been going on.

And the rumors come up. And she references that Sutton's been implying certain things and Garcell's been implying certain things. But the thing that stood out to me the most was, because I'm just watching how these two interact. They kiss at the end. Awkward. Off putting.

Off putting is funny. I saw a lot of people say that it was very cringy. It was. It was. It's because we know what we know. Yeah. I don't know. It's so hard to just take it as like a standalone to watch them kiss and be like, is that a real kiss?

Well, my thing with it was, I don't even think it was a camera kiss. I think it was more so like a mo, like, are we good kiss? And, like, I read her body language on this. And, like, the way that she kind of pulls away, like, she doesn't want to be touched by him. That's the vibe I get. And that implies he did something. Well, it comes on the heels of talking about her new tattoo.

Yeah. And Mo saying, I hope I get to see it more often. That we saw that interaction. And that was also very awkward. Yeah, anytime it gets intimate between them. But I think, yeah, that is true. It's just very awkward when the two of them get intimate. And I think as a standalone, even not even addressing the rumors.

and knowing what we know now, I think it's still just a very awkward situation to watch. Wow, it's extremely awkward, just like that sentence that just came out of my mouth. But I think the big thing that I also took from it, and this has got to be tough, and I've never thought about this, but when the actual housewives watch this shit back,

like seeing production lean into this storyline where like the music gets dramatic and it zooms in on the picture of them when they were happy, I was like, to see your move or your life played out, like a movie when shit's going bad has to really suck I don't know that Kyle's rewatching this I don't think I don't think she is yeah I don't I wouldn't I wouldn't either but I don't know at the same time like how could you not like to see what other women are saying about you to like I don't know I think it's so

hard I don't know yeah I got you probably get sent so much from other people that do watch it so if you have other friends or like even Morgan Wade sitting down to watch this Probably not. But why? She might be too cool for it. She is too cool. She probably don't even watch TV. She razzes me.

It's crazy. She's the only friend that I have. The only friend that I'll just sarcastic and gives me shit. It's like she's fucking flirting with you. That's what she's doing. Yeah, that's like the first stage of flirting is negging somebody. That's all you're getting. But anyway, moving on from there, we get Sutton at her store and she's setting up a party.

It's been four years since she opened and wants to celebrate the. The store is doing well. And they got through a really tough four years. If you think about the timing of it, that was COVID. There was a lot going on in the world. So her designer was like trapped in France. Stuck in France. And, you know, that was a big deal.

Oh, man. It was a really big deal. He finally got there. Yeah. Thank God we got through that. But just fucking bless yourself. I did. No, I blessed.

I blessed the store. Yeah. If you don't watch on YouTube, you missed that one. Plays, who's this. God. Bad day for you. I told you. This was me on Tuesday, though.

It's okay. I'm going to let you go. Thank you. But anyway, they're chit-chatting about the store, and it's nice because Sutton feels accomplished and she should. This is a big deal. But we get a FaceTime with Crystal, and they're referencing the alcoholic rumors and the stuff that people have been saying behind their back.

And this is why I like Crystal. And, you know, we do wish that we would get more out of her, and that might be a production thing. It might just be this season. She's coming out of her shell and we get more out of her later. But what I do like about her is when she doesn't like something, regardless of who said it, it's like she will always call it out. And I would always appreciate that about her because she's like, yeah, this is bullshit.

Because I heard Doreet saying this and that means that Kyle was saying this. And then when it gets all twisted up later, where Dorete's trying to like spin it. Yeah. It's irrelevant. The point of the story is what Crystal told Sutton is all correct. It's all true. It's all very correct. And something that I remember in interactions with Sutton and Crystal all the time, the way they started out was awful.

They were at each other's necks, it was Crystal's first season, Sutton was going after the new girl, but now Crystal loves Sutton. She even says it on camera. Garcel loves Sutton. She says it on camera as well. Those are genuine friendships. So everybody who gives a shit for being Sutton fans, you have to look into that and say who are the realist people on this show. It's a good way to put it. It's probably Crystal and Garcel, and that's not even us just like standing up for the people that we like. We like the people who are real. If the two of them say they love Sutton, maybe Sutton off cameras a little. different. Maybe they understand her a little bit better. But I feel like that's, it's a blessing, honestly, that they're giving her. And we need to kind of look into that and say, you know what? Maybe she's just real. This is just who Sutton is. And for her, for Crystal to sit there on FaceTime and tell her what's going on with Doreat. One, it's a huge step for Crystal because she's putting herself in the limelight, which is what we need. We need her to stop taking a step back, maybe stop getting cut out by production, whatever's going on. She's putting herself right into the center of it. And I think she's ready to handle it based on what we saw later. I think she's more

incapable of handling herself, especially with this group, but it's nice to see her, you know, standing out a little bit. And one thing I didn't think about with all these accusations, you know, I take it at a personal level where it's like, you know, you can't put this out there in the world because it's going to look really bad on Sutton. What I didn't think about is custody. I didn't think about business implications. Like, if you put it out there that she is an alcoholic, people are going to question how responsible she is, that could 1,000 percent end up in court. Like, if there was a custody, but I don't think there will be. It doesn't sound like there's bad blood between the two of them.

No. I don't think he's looking for reasons to not let his son stay there. I don't think that he would have told Sutton that he wanted her to move with him. Right. Maybe not like live together, but move into the same country with him if he didn't trust her as a mother. Right. So I think when that got brought to my attention, I was like, oh, yeah, like, that's really shitty too. Like, there's a lot more here than just an offhanded comment like, oh, she puts vodka

in her coffee. It's like, you're implying she wakes up and starts the day with a drink. Right. Yeah, and I think that's the difference between a housewife that owns a business and has a lot of things going on for her versus Doreet, who no real shade, but Doreet's whole life is housewives at this point. Yes, she goes to party. She has P.K., whatever the loss is going on. But she looks at things through the glasses of, oh, this is a housewife show. This is a good comment to make on TV.

Yeah, okay, the implications are you might cause her to have some sort of loss with business, with family, whatever else might happen. And I don't think to read thinking about any of that. I don't think so either. I think that happens a lot in these shows, but this next scene with Kyle was her most important scene of the season. And I think her most important scene in a long time

because we get her with Jamie, her therapist and life coach. This is the first therapist and life coach I've seen on one of these shows or I'm like, this makes sense. This dude seems like a Beverly Hills therapist. And his advice seems sound. And like he actually seemed competent.

I guess. Well, he knows her. He said he's known her for 20 years, which is helpful. But the way that he was handling the situation, it felt way more like a therapist patient relationship than what we've seen in the past where it's borderline enabling of the patient for TV's sake. Like with Austin and his therapist. I see that shit happen.

I'm like, this doesn't seem like a good thing. And that's usually the norm for these shows. Yeah. This did feel a lot more. And I'm hypercritical of the therapists on these shows. Jamie's not one of them. I don't know. He sat there, listened to her, asked her questions back, didn't give advice.

until the very end when she asked for it. Correct. Which is not what we've seen through any therapist or marriage counselor or whatever the fuck else we've seen on these shows. He actually did seem like, one, he genuinely cares. He's a friend. But he's also a therapist and a life coach, which can you be both the same at the same time? Yeah, I think a therapist already implies the life coach in certain ways.

Yeah, I think so. Maybe not the official title. Yeah, you could argue that's redundant, but I think they can both be in place. Are you stuck on that? Is that tough for you? It's redundant. I think it's full on redundant. Yeah.

I pick one, dude. I guess you would pick therapist, right? Depends what's more lucrative, probably. I would assume therapist makes better money than a life coach, but I don't know. I think that just depends on what avenue you explore further. Can we move on? No. Yeah, we can move on.

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You could want her off the show. This shows you that this is a real person going through some real, real shit right now. And yeah, her actions and behavior can be questioned. it too much? Is she changing? Is she changing for the wrong reasons? Sure. But this is why. And when we hear about everything with her sisters, and that has to be really difficult, then everything with her friend Lorraine who committed suicide, and they've been best friends forever. Never had a falling out, never had anything bad. That was her ride or die. And when she passed away, I don't think that Kyle has fully come to terms of it. I don't think she's processed it. I think that that hitting her,

and then her sister's hitting her, and then the fact that the one thing that was always constant and present in her life, which was Moe in their marriage, that's on the rocks. She has no fallback. Now, all of her behavior starts to make a lot more sense to me. The fact that she's doing new things she never has before via Morgan Wade, that makes a lot of sense. Life is short. All of these crazy things just happened to me. I want to enjoy my life.

I'm not happy right now. What's going to make me happy? This stuff does. This shit with Morgan Wade, maybe it's the wrong timing. Maybe it's the wrong reasons, but it makes her happy. It makes her feel good. She doesn't want to feel depressed. She can't afford to feel depressed right now.

I'm going to lean into this Morgan stuff because it makes me happy. All right, that makes sense. I don't want to waste my life away. I want to change things. I'm working out every day. It makes me feel good. Okay. I'm not going to drink.

All right. All of this shit adds up to a certain point where I'm like, is it too much? Maybe. But is it the right thing for her right now? Is it getting her through all this shit? It seems to be. Is that enough? It could be.

It definitely seems to be. And I think that you could argue maybe you do it stages. Maybe you start working. Maybe you cut out drinking first, see how that goes. Then you start working out a little more aggressively, sure. The Morgan Wade thing of it all, that's, I'm going to completely take the affair part aside. She actually has somebody to talk to. Right. That is, has gone through something similar that you can kind of connect with on a deeper level. Yes, do I still think if there is, you know, some sort of relationship there? Yeah, it is a little gross. The woman is reaching out to Morgan Wade on Instagram and stalking her and then trying to get a rise out of her and then

becoming best friends, they're getting tattoos together. All of that's really weird to me. All of that is super fucking bizarre. I know it is. However, if you look at it in a nutshell, she finally has somebody that she can talk to while she's doing all of this. And yeah, is she doing too much too quickly at the same time?

Probably. But if she can get through it and she can maintain all of those things at the same time, she's going to be better in like, give it a couple of months. Once she figures out the Mo thing, she's going to look back and say, yeah, I'm happy that I did that. She's not going to say,

I wish I did it in stages because I feel like it just kind of accelerated the whole process for her. I agree, and she might look back and have some regrets on how she handled it. Everybody does, though. Right, that's my point. So, like, I guess what I would like to see from her friends more, and again, I'm not a big Kyle fan, and she still has done some really shitty things this year. But if I'm a friend of Kyle's, what I would be looking for is somebody to be like, hey,

you're making a lot of crazy changes. Are you good? Okay, I'm going to support you through this. Let's move forward. And, like, we get this whole thing now that's coming out where she's not as close with Therite anymore. She's not as close with her other friends anymore because of Morgan Wade. And it's like, okay. But let's frame it a different way.

Just for the sake of the argument. During all these crazy changes, were you ever supportive or were you always questioning? Because that's going to push her away towards somebody that's not giving her shit for it that's just being accepting, i.e. Morgan Wade. So how did you handle it for those six months to a year that she was going through these changes? was you there or were you distant because you didn't understand? And I think that explains a lot as to where everybody stands today. I think it also has something to do with the fact that she's reconciling with her family. That's another big part.

Her getting closer to Kim again. Apparently she's gotten closer to Kathy and she's met Parisus, maybe. So there's a lot more going on there. Add in all of the other things that are going on, obviously after the season stopped filming, which is maybe a couple of weeks or maybe a month or two after what we're watching currently. She's still doing all the same things that we're watching there. She's still not drinking. She's still working on a lot.

She's still seeing Morgan Wade. Mo's a little more polarizing with his dancing with a star's partner and all of that. So it's still really tough for Kyle. We know that because we're watching this now. We see how she's dealing with it. And we understand she's going really fucking going through it. When you see all the things that are happening currently, you know she's still going through it. So she's battling and she's reconciling with who she can.

And yeah, I mean, if there's some collateral damage in there with her not being super close to to read anymore because you can see that like we watch that all the time we talk about true friends on this show all the time to reet's just i don't really know how to describe to reet she doesn't seem like the type of friend that walks in and says are you okay i don't want to take away from their friendship i don't know i mean i could i'm not taking away from their friendship i'm taking away from derreet and i agree with that seem like a concerned friend she seems like a i need to know what's going on in your life so that i know and then i can maybe i can tell other people i think that's kind of what i get from her i don't think i don't think

think you're wrong. I think the way that I take it is do we get a completely different Doreet on screen? Are they having different deeper conversations off screen than like the face value shit we get when they're driving to an event? That's I guess my big question because that would be a different. I don't know. I guess if Doree can turn it on and turn it off after all these years of being on the show, maybe. I mean, we see it with her and P.K. and how she talks about him and then in real life they're getting separated. I don't think it's that far, like that much of a far cry that she could be a different person off camera. I don't think anybody.

We need somebody to dig into Doreet as a person, her personality. We'll get, I can't figure that out. Yeah, there you go. But the next scene we get, Garcel is taking her son and his girlfriend out on a little date. To get to know, Ashland is the girlfriend's name, and Jade is smitten. Jade is very much a 15-year-old boy, and it's cute. Out of all of the 15-year-old children on these shows, Jade is, the only one that's actually, like, a 15-year-old kid.

He is the, yeah, he's a quintessential. Monica's daughter on Salt Lake, who's, like, a fucking 40-year-old woman who's wiser than I am. She's like, hey, mom, how are you? How's everything going? And Garcell's other son, who's, like, telling her what to do it? Now he's the man of the family. Like, what is going on? I don't know, man. But some of these kids. At least Jade is

normal. And go play Fortnite. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But it was a nice scene. I just wanted to touch on that real quick. But the next scene, I don't know what Anne is doing on this show. I don't know why she's here.

I don't know if it's like you said last week. Kyle needed some backup, so they sent her in. But this scene is insane. And we're going to keep the Marcellus Wiley talked to a minimum, given everything that's come out in the media and in the press. But the fact that she openly told us, the audience, that her husband said she's an eight and a half at everything, looks, brains, you name it, 8.5, 9.5 on the body, which weirdly seems more disrespectful that her body

is better than the rest of her. Like, there's so much to unpack here. I didn't know what to do about that. I felt bad. And she seems proud of it. She's proud. Yeah, that's why I didn't feel bad. But the other part of it is, and like, Dev and I talked about, she's like, can you believe that? I was like, no, it's fucking insane. And I said, the one thing that I kind of respect is the honesty. I was talking to Dev when I said this, I was like, because nobody in the world is a 10 at everything except for you. And like for

Jesus, dude. You fucking opened that can of worms? I said except for you. She is a 10. That's a 10 on all fronts. But my point was no one else is. So at least like I guess the honesty is kind of funny.

Because like 8.5, if you're an 8.5 at everything, you're excelling. You're exceptional in life. We need more context to it. When did you have this conversation? How did this start? Why did you sit down and have Marcellus go through a rating scale for all of your things? Like 8.5 in intelligence, 8.5 in personality. First off, nobody's that consistent.

That's what I'm saying. You're an exceptional human if you're 8 and a half and everything. That's pretty fucking good. That's what I mean. So like it's kind of a compliment. Nine and a half body? Yeah. You would be.

Round up. You're an A minus. But regardless, you can't frame it in a positive way. There's no way to frame that in a positive way. So in my brain, I'm hoping, not hoping because it would be really sad, but it would be funny if the way it came out, if she was like, if he said something, she's like, oh, well, you know me, I'm a 10. And he's like, you're an 8-5. But let's get into this, actually. You're an 8-5 across the board. I don't want to insult you. That's where I think it came up. Yeah, that's how I imagined it happened for sure.

What a fucking scene. But we get confirmation that Erica got her residency, as we all know, which, you know, people make jokes about the ticket prices and people make jokes about the residency in general. I'm not anymore. I love Erica. I do, too. And, like, the big thing is, like, you watch this woman's journey over the past two years. Yeah, dude. Like, the fact that she was able to get out from under Tom,

unscathed in all of the lawsuits, and then work her way by herself to a Vegas residency, which is what she's always wanted, in the wake of this shit and the entire Bravoverse, except for Zach Peter, trying to drag her, including us, and then to be on top again in this respect I don't care if you think the show is dumb

or you make fun of the ticket prices like that's a cool fucking story it's cool but I don't even want to focus on that and how far she's come like in her business life personally if that was me and I was going through all of the things that Erica was going through and had that meltdown of last year wouldn't you come back this year

after being exonerated from everything and to have a huge fucking tattoo of a middle finger on your forehead and less everyone and she doesn't she decided to be fucking fucking nicer, and she decided to be calmer and just enjoy her life and not let other people bring her down. How?

How? Was it a therapist or was it a life coach? Who did it? Who done it? Jamie. But I don't know. It's cool to see. The next scene we got is Morgan and Kyle on their FaceTiming, and this is the stuff

where I'm like, nah. Yeah. Like, come on. Because she's like the first thing she asked, what are you wearing? I'm like, bro. What are you wearing? Guys. Like, come on.

could be wearing me exactly that's like the vibe I guess it's like dude just play it cool at least you know you're on camera settle down unless you're trying to put it out there that's where I get confused it comes back to the music video for me every time

I think she's trying to put it out there but maybe it's because she's that's I guess the hardest part of this is like okay if you know that Mo cheated but you don't want to fuck up the business because it fucks with the family okay but you're getting on a revenge tour and we don't know what you're

getting revenge for and that makes this difficult well yeah i mean it that makes it difficult i'm just i i get so uncomfortable with this and i talked about it earlier she's my only friends that just you know actually gives me shit for things and it's so funny and she makes fun of the things that i do she's flirting i just know she does it in like a nice way it's like she's flirting with you that's flirting and like to be fair i don't think that kyle kyle might not even know that or understand that she just enjoys talking what do you mean when was last time somebody flirted with her She's been in a shit marriage for how long. Okay.

Maybe she doesn't have people flirt with her. She might. All right. Maybe somebody's making her feel good and she likes it. I agree with that. I'm not making an excuse. That's just how I kind of, I figured that out. Just a confusing situation.

That's what got me through that scene. Fair enough. But we get to the party at Sutton's and she gave Dorita a heads up. There's going to be 80 people there so Deree can handle it. Thank God. I wouldn't say this. That's a pretty good friends, though. I wouldn't.

It is especially shut up and come. Well, I mean, it goes. goes back to the last time when Sutton had an event, didn't tell her, and it was a whole thing. Remember that? It was like last season.

It's obnoxious. It's obnoxious. I don't understand PTSD. Just get over it already. But no, I don't want to take away from the PTSD of that incident because, yeah,

if you thought you're going to die or your kids are going to die, it'll fuck you up for a while. Did you see the theory why P. P.K. thinks it's obnoxious and why he doesn't understand it? Why?

Because he arranged it and his insurance fraud. I don't get it. This was all fake. Why are you so upset? I'm selling it, P. I'm selling it, Publish. Maybe she is.

Do you think she's selling it? I don't think he even told Doreet. I don't think so either. If I'm P.K., I'm probably not trusting to Rite without a secret. If he pulled that off and that is real and he didn't tell her, that's the meanest fucking thing in the world. It's super, super mean. That's the meanish shit of her. But as far as getting away with it.

Okay, it makes sense. I wouldn't trust her. She's going to spill the meat. Look, my point was saying, if you get up in arms about certain events with certain amounts of people, I don't understand why Magic Mike was not a problem. Exactly. That's where this all comes from. Like, if she had said that about Magic Mike and this was consistent, I'd be like, all, whatever.

Is it the paparazzi? Is it the cameras and the people that what she's implying is it's a bunch of strangers and she doesn't trust anybody. Yeah, okay. So let's go to a strip club. Right. That's my point. So why was she cool with that with no questions asked, but the other stuff that's not

Kyle centric. Yeah. Because Kyle was put, I guess, Erica and Kyle were kind of the front runners of that whole thing. I guess not. I guess it was just Erica. But I don't know. That's the only reason I bring in this. Going to Vegas in general. Right.

It's like a nightmare if you're going through that. It's just all people. So that's where I'm like when she brings it up again, I get a little bit more. But like, what did she do? Did she sit down and just say like, all right, 80 people. That's four times 20. I need 30 minutes to prepare for 80. I need to prep.

Let me visualize this and sit down, bubbleish. And I will. Okay. I'm good to go. Thank you, Sutton. But I don't understand why it's selective. That's the only reason. bring it up again but whatever we get kim and kyle headed to the party and do i think that she

invited kim because of what sutton said absolutely does it matter not really at least they're hanging out again and the one thing i need to say about kim richards and i said it to dev earlier i appreciate so much that she's at a point in her life where she doesn't care like this is who i am i'm quirky i've been through a lot that's what you got from yeah dude because she doesn't really give a fuck about what anybody thinks i felt i felt so bad for i mean like i really didn't because i think that she doesn't care i think that she doesn't care i think that that's her see i don't think that she doesn't care i think that she's she's gone through so much since she was one of those people and there's a lot of those people out there from

covid that were just shut in didn't know how to get back into society and can't really handle it i used to say it about the kids who turned 21 during covid who went to bars the year after they're the worst people in the fucking world oh probably know how to act in public being drunk yeah which is you know a whole different story but my whole thing with that is the same it's not because she went through so much in her life like she's gone through addiction struggle. She's gone through all these ups and downs. She seems in a place now where she's content with herself.

And yeah, it's weird. Yeah, she paints walls. And yeah, she's uncomfortable. I felt bad that she was getting judged for the things that she was saying. It's like, anybody in their right mind can look and be like, you've gone through it. Like, I feel bad. But you know what? Good for you.

Like, you seem happy. But that's my point. That's why I'm like, this is cool because, like, this is just who she is. She seems like she's in a good place. She seems comfortable. And she's like, I, yeah, I draw on walls. I'm weird. hey and like I don't know I appreciate that about her but hey um but let's get into this scene a little

bit we uh and that's like sure what it started off with and this is what made me think it because she introduces Sutton uh introduces her to Kimberly Brooks and she's like she's an artist she's like oh I paint too and I was like oh damn it like you're not the same she's in action but immediately she's like I'm just kidding I just draw on walls I was like that's funny that's a crazy thing that you recognize that's funny but I don't know what an artist says to that I don't either, but it was really funny. I didn't think that the artist had any sense of humor. She had no idea what was going on.

Blank face just, oh. And Sutton, Sutton also, no sense of humor. But it could have just been the awkwardness of having Kyle there. I think Sutton has a sense of humor. It's just a weird sense of humor. But I think she was just so, like, in that stalemate with Kyle being there. They were just off. Yeah.

I just made that comment about your sisters. Whether or not she remembers that, though, because it gets a little murky when they start talking over by the bar and Sutton doesn't remember a couple of things that she said. Sutton does that. Sutton will just blurt things out and then the next day she wasn't even drunk that night the next day she'll be like

I didn't I don't remember saying that well she on this scene we get the where she gives a speech it was a very Sutton speech doesn't mean it's a bad speech it's just a very Sutton speech doesn't make a whole lot of sense

it started off by saying I'm the worst public speaker yeah and then talks about labels and not wanting to be labeled but today is a good thing to be labeled but anyway when she gets done she goes over the bar to make a drink and she has to

take this moment to be like can I have a drink now? And I haven't had a drink. This is my first drink all day. And she says that to Kyle, which brings up the elephant in the room why Sutton's upset with Kyle and they start getting into it about the rumors and accusations about potentially being an alcoholic. And this is where I get frustrated with Kyle again because she's like,

I didn't say that. Like I said that maybe that one night, it's like, no, let's roll the tape. The way that you guys were talking is implying that this is a daily occurrence that she's drunk most of the time that she has a drinking problem. That's what you said. I think Doreet is the driving factor in that, though. Kyle does tag along, which we've seen for years now. Kyle will just tag along with whatever Doreet says or Erica says or whatever just to make herself seem cool.

But she did definitely say that and she poked fun at her eating disorder. Like you can't do that. And then the next day say, I didn't say that. Like, yes, you did. And even if you didn't come out and directly say something, you still alluded to the fact and you're not an idiot. Even though I call a lot of people idiots on these shows, Kyle's not one of them. No, Kyle's not an idiot. knows what she's doing, and she just backtracks and acts like she didn't do it because she got

away with it for so long. And the funniest part is she's like, oh, Garcel told you that. Garcel told you that. And like to try to jam up Sutton, she's like, let's go ask her then. She's like, did you say this, Garcel? Did you say that that was a makeup gift or was that Sutton? And Garcel's like, I said it. Didn't even like bulk at it.

She's like, yeah, I said it. It's a good friend that's going to back you up. Yeah, and she did. And then they start to dive into it. And Garcel's like, well, when it comes to the rings and all the change up, like, you change your ring and then you changed your ring again and now you keep telling me about how you changed it and then we look up the meaning of a Tiffany ring a Tiffany T ring and a Tiffany T ring stands for companionship partnership faithfulness like all this other stuff that is pretty on the

nose for what's being said against your marriage and now you're highlighting the fact that you're changing jewelry and changing it she would have been much better off had she just kept the makeup ring yes and I'm not saying that's what it was no but that's the easiest way to remember it had you you just got now you have to wear that forever yeah if you don't want people for the next couple of weeks. You don't change it the next day. No, especially if people asking questions about it. Like, you just got to grin and bear that one and just wear that ring. Hey, Michael.

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Instead, she takes the tactic of, I'm going to throw them off my scent. I'm just going to keep changing the ring, and they'll never be on to it. But the one thing I want to talk about from Garcell's Confessional, when she's talking about the rings and stuff. And she says, who's it for? And when she says, is it for Mo and Smirks, what she's saying, Mo Reese or Morgan? Oh, Reese. Are you sure? Yes.

I don't know. Does anybody call Morgan Wade Mo? No, but you could, M.O. If I'm right about this. No, stop it. No, that's right. You're reading in too much. I'm not.

I think I'm on the nose. I think you're not. You're on the Mo's. I think you're just blind and stupid. but um i it is she's it's not what's not who's it about morgan

morgan morgan do that again do that again she said mo do it again do it again okay she said mo organ i don't think she said morgan trying to make something happen

mo you you can't sit there and tell me that mo could not be a nickname for morgan it could but no one has called her that right until garsel did it and smirked go back and watch it go back and watch it roll the tape you want to sit there and judge me what she's saying morgan is it for moe meaning is your companionship with mo organ smirk meaning are you guys fucking together or fucking separately oh i just got confused as to what that meant yeah uh always in there anyway anyway we get back to the Dorit and Sutton and Kyle's shit

and that's when Dorit comes out and says Sutton talks about your marriage behind your back and then Sutton says well that's funny because I hear that you're talking all the shit behind my back and then she goes well who said that and she tells us that Crystal told her about the other day when they were sitting there her and Kyle

talking about Sutton's drinking Dorit takes it upon herself to go question Crystal who is mortified because we know this is going to go great I'm getting interrogated by Dorit this is going to take fucking forever and all Dorit is doing is playing the semantics game all she's doing is try to spin it as to why she said what and who said it did kyle say or did i say did she say that both of them said it and

sounds like yeah i guess like okay you both said it what do you want from here but all dureate's doing is like this is what she does she says shit she gets called out for shit and then she tries to spin it as to that's not what i meant by it and she just tries to throw confusion out there the best that she can yeah trying to nail down who said what specifically and when and no i wasn't talking about that. It's like, by the time that you're done, we're all so confused as to what you're saying, but you haven't answered the original question. And I love the crystal didn't get caught up in any of that.

She just got bored. And says it. I like the fucking Erica laughed at that too. I know, right? Eric is so removed from everybody else. She's just enjoying her time there. She enjoys every feud happening right now. She laughs at on the outside, which is great.

This is the perfect Erica Jane that we're seeing. She's having, and I called it episode one, E.J. Comeback Year, you laughed at me when I said it. look at us now look at you now i'm laughing at you for other reasons now's fine i'll take that morgan but then the last thing we need to talk about is the housewife we didn't need and marie starts speaking up about sutton's neuropathy drug gabapentin i wrote it down just to be thorough here gabapentin i should have googled to see if you could drink on it but sutton says her doctor said she can drink on it she said you can have a drink on it that's just what sutton

had said originally a drink. And so now... Most medication, though. But now, Anne-Marie is apparently not an anesthesiologist, but... She's a nurse anesthetist, which is a step down, which means she's a nurse, yeah. Right. And she sits there and has, like, a doctor's appointment with a sudden, where she's questioning everything about her disorder, her esophageal disorder, if you will.

And we know that this is a real thing. It doesn't even sound that far-fetched. I didn't have to look it up, nor did I need confirmation. Also, like, the medical diagnosis from Anne-Marie is, well, do you just chew your food more. Yeah, what are you talking about? Fucking idiot. That makes no sense. Who let you be your nurse? Like seriously, who let you pass that? That's a scary thought. That is insane. That is wild that that was her first thought. And she thought that she was being shady too and enjoying herself. It's like, no, I'm happy that Sutton stood her ground. I'm

happy that other people were just having conversations over them. And there was just nothing going on there. It was just the dumbest thing ever. Amory should not be sticking herself in this situation. Who are you at all? We don't even know who you were. Even Sutton said that. I don't know you. I met you last week. I have no idea who you are. You shouldn't be sitting down talking about my medical disorder. It makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense at all. And for a newbie to come in out of nowhere, knowing nothing about Sutton or the rest of the girls in this group, but to not know something about a human, if I didn't know you and I sat down and started to diagnose your esophagus and whether or not it's a real disorder, and question, stop. Do you know

diagnosed my esophagus? I don't know. Not even kind of. But, But for someone to sit down there and do that to a stranger and then imply that she has an eating disorder is fucking insane. That is banana land. In the middle of her store. In the middle of her party, you're going to question whether or not she has an eating disorder, something that is so taboo that you're not supposed to mention it or talk about it and definitely not accuse somebody of having it. That is fucking appalling. Yeah. And you question a medical diagnosis at the same time.

You think that you, that qualifies you to have medical doctor diagnosis conversations in a party? In a party with somebody that you don't know? That's crazy. For what? To defend Kyle? To look good on TV. And Kyle wasn't even chiming in either, which is good. Thankfully, she was just talking to Kim, who was talking about drawing on Sutton's walls.

That was great. Which was also very funny. But still, Amory is just sitting out there by herself on an island with Sutton now, because she decided to poke her nose into the business that she does not deserve to be in. It does not make any sense. She can go now. It doesn't add anything.

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