Bros & Shows - Leave Brittany Alone! (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

What's up Bros? We're back with The Valley and what has been a great season of TV. In this episode we're still in Big Bear. Jax tells Michelle about the rumors he heard and she goes straight to Jesse to have a discussion... Throughout the episode we get Jax berating Brittany about drinking and feeling sick, despite not being drunk... It was honestly a little rough to watch the duration of the episode as we watched him yell at her over and over again and not one castmate got involved. The boys break down outside and have a good cry but Jesse also begins to go in on Danny and Nia's marriage which doesn't make ANY sense given the circumstances. Zack gets petty with some of the better shade we've seen from anyone. The boys have another heart to heart on the boat during a fishing trip about marriages and it's a tough scene to watch considering the state of two of the four marriages on the boat, but Jesse feel the need once again to start talking smack against Nia and Danny's marriage... Jax puts his foot in his mouth, shocker. But this show does not disappoint... Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody for whoever wants to listen I am your co-host Steel Russell joined as always by the one and only dim room m'groom what's up dude another remote recording session for the boys and uh this will be the last one of the week we'll get back to regular programming after this but we know you guys love it i actually had to change a little bit i'm in uh as steel called it a little bit of a sex chair right now that's what i call it i just don't like the way it swivels and like i think it's more

the way you're sitting it's making me i'm uncomfortable so do with that what you will i'm glad you're relaxed. I'm not. I'm uneasy because of you. Are you uneasy because of me or because you've been eating so much barbecue down there? Uh, so I only ate barbecue once, but it was tonight. And I look, when you're in the Northeast and you grew up on good barbecue in the south, when you come back, you have to hit your spots. So like the three, the big three for me when I come to Texas is barbecue, what a burger, and good Tex-Mex, because I can't get any of those three in Philly. There's one good spot in Philly called Mike's Barbecue in South Philly. It's actually really, really good. Other than that, I am underwhelmed by barbecue there. So when I come

here, I go above and beyond. And there's a place called Stanley's Pit Barbecue in Tyler, Texas. That's pretty solid. So I got a half a pound of brisket, half a pound of spicy sausage, half a pound of chicken. And then I got a brisket sausage and pulled pork sandwich. That was all one sandwich and I ate all of that and I also how many pounds were how many pounds were in the sandwich uh one pounds over here I ate two and a half pounds of meat yeah I don't feel great um I it was totally worth it but I'm pretty full and uh yeah but again you got to hit your spots and that's my thing I'm a culinary guy so I got to get the food if you're watching on YouTube you might be able to see Steele break out into his meat sweats in about what a half an hour uh you'd be

surprised it takes a lot for your boy to get the meat sweats i've eaten much more than than that i had did that uh when i played baseball in australia i did a uh like it was a 90 ounce steak challenge with a half a pound of chips which is french fries in australia um i feel like you just said Australia weird, too. Down and I did the accent. Yeah, you did the accent like that word. Yeah. Chips.

They have some chippies. But, but no, I, I ate the steak, no problem. The French fries smoked me. The starch after the steak was impossible. But I did.

I got down 90 ounces of red meat, one sitting and probably could have eaten more. I'm a steak fiend, bro. Steak, brisket, meat. I'm a meat guy. You're a meat guy. over here. Yep. I'm proud. Yeah. You make whatever joke you want. I'll wear a fucking badge.

I'm not making any guys. But yeah, so we had a double header tonight for Pop and it got rained out. Thunderstorms in the area so we went and had a barbecue date instead and it was lovely. We had a lovely time. But we're not here to talk about barbecue.

We're here to talk about the valley and things are heating up and getting smoky over there. So, oh, God. Look, we have to record these late. I know, we have to record them late and it's actually, weirdly enough, it's not off topic because there is some grilling going on in this episode. So it kind of all comes together.

It works out well. Full circle. We like to go full circle. We like to go full circle. Let's just talk about the valley because that's why we're here to talk about the valley. But before we get into that, I want to give you guys a quick reminder. We have started Brov Bros members. It is $5 for the month or $50 for the year.

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We're going to start a little counter. We're also going to include a weekly email, a month. please Zoom where every member can jump onto a Zoom. Talk to us. You can ask questions, shoot the shit, whatever you want to talk about. We are there at your disposal. And the best thing about this is it opens the door for new ideas, where this show is going. We can branch out a little bit, explore some different shows. We want to watch what you guys are watching. We love you guys. This is all about you. So this is a chance to interact with the bros more. That's all it is. That's all we want. We want to talk to you guys and find out what you guys want us to

do because at the end of the day we're going to do whatever you guys want to do honestly we'll watch anything we will we already do we have a very wide scope of things that we like to to view yeah i mean in particular i'm i'm really excited about uh i don't know if you've heard of this it's called house of the dragon it's coming out in two weeks three weeks so it's it's a weird one yeah it kind of times up perfectly with right around when we would get maybe close to 250 so we're just saying you know just throwing it out there could be fun Just an idea, guys. A little Targaryen talk.

Who knows? A little Rhaegar drama. I don't know. It wouldn't be Rhaegar drama, dude. Come on. Get your fucking Targaryans together. I'll just throw it names out there. I get so confused because the show is so fucking big and there's so many people that I just remember names.

And I'm like, yeah, he's probably in that one. Huge fan of the show, but my brain sucks. I think I drank my short-term memory away. So this is what you got. This is what you're left with. And without further ado, it's Valley Time. So let's jump right into this episode. And overall, this season hasn't had a dud.

Like we have not hit a dud episode. And that is tough to do, honestly. It is really tough to do. I think we had that, we didn't even have a lull. Like, we usually we talk about that where, whether it's a housewife show, Southern Charm, Summerhouse, whatever it might be, this show is just hitting on all cylinders. and we keep waiting for the other shoe to drop or waiting for something to happen that we're not going to like or we're going to get bored of or we're just going to completely stop watching for some of these shows.

And for this, I feel like every week there's something else and there's another dynamic that gets thrown into it or somebody else is fighting or we're watching another marriage crumble. I mean, yeah, it doesn't look fun to be on the show, but it's very fun for us to watch it. It is. And I think a big part of it is it feels genuine. Like, I know a lot of it's kind of dark and we're watching some marriages fall apart and we're watching some not fun stuff like for them, obviously, but the reality of it, right? The reality of this reality TV show, especially because we've been overshadowed with production over the last couple of shows we've been following, which has been really frustrating.

So to see one that seems pretty void of production other than, you know, Jacks and Doty, but what they're doing is more. I don't know. They're keeping it close to their chest because they're just trying to move chest pieces versus, oh, I'm going to fabricate an entire storyline and make up some fake drama. They actually have rumors. They're just waiting for the right time for that shoe to drop. So it's been extremely enjoyable. I never thought I'd be saying this.

Like, we are 100% eating our words from pre-valley season to now. But I'm just thrilled this show is doing as well as it is. Yeah. I mean, honestly, what, a couple of weeks ago when they announced. that they were renewing for a second season, who would have thought that we would have been excited about that? And who would have thought that the only reason that we might not be excited about that is because they're touching the cast. They're changing the cast a little bit. And we don't even know if they're doing that. But we are not excited about that. We're like, leave them alone. They're

great as is. Never thought that I would have said that. Well, no, it's the premise or the idea that they're going to add VPR cast members into this show. And like before the show aired, we'd be like, oh, yeah, bring some of them over. They'll make it better. Now it's like, oh, my God. don't bring any Vanderpump members over because they're going to ruin this. The show's fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know what I mean? Just leave it alone.

But let's jump into this. And we start out with Jackson, Michelle, it's the ending of that conversation. And I knew, I predicted it last week. I knew that that was a run-on sentence. I knew that wasn't just flat out. Like, yeah, I am texting other guys. Like, I knew there was more to that story. And it's exactly what I thought she was going to say where it's like, oh, no, like,

we run a business. This is how real estate works. You meet a client. And yeah, of course, I'm texting him. Of course, I'm trying to put feelers out there. There's no way. Yeah, it still stinks. It stinks to high heavens. Like the way that she answered it, the way that she addressed it, she wasn't even like angry. Like you would imagine, and we've talked about this before, whenever there's rumors going, you can always tell by someone's reaction to a rumor about them. We've heard a lot of rumors about what's going on with different people. And if they're reaction is, what the fuck? Like, why would anybody say that? No, that's not what's going on. If it's anything but that, then it's probably true. And this is one of the weird times where I fully agree

with Jacks when he goes to his confessional. And he goes, you know what? I've been around a lot of rumors. Yes, you have, Jacks. A lot of those rumors have to do with you. And if you sit here and tell us when there's, or where there's smoke, there's fire, one, that confirms the rumors that are about you. Two, you're also confirming, yeah, there's definitely something stinky about what's going on here with Michelle 100% and the fact that she's using the celebrity out of it to make it seem like it's not as bad fucking tarantino out there yeah dude tarantino's getting feet picked from michel and for those that don't know tarantino has a weird foot thing just watch his movies you'll notice watch uh from dust till dawn and selma hyac in that uh that explains

once upon a time in hollywood or margot robbie's uh shoelis the entire time yeah yeah either or he's a big foot guy so that's where little uh see we consume a lot of content yeah a little tidbit about tarentino there but the whole thing is it you're right it stinks it stinks to high heaven it there's no way that this is all that's going on and i don't know she even her reaction to it as you said because i would say there is a level to it where if it's a too visceral reaction it's like oh you're overdoing it yep she just seems so blasé just like nah-uh it's like, that didn't seem legit at all. And it's not like, and like we know Doty and we know that she's messy with the things that she says.

And again, this wasn't Doty. I know, but like Doty was saying it at some point. So even if it's coming from Jack saying that Doty was saying it, you could see on some level that Michelle might be like, all right, you know, it's coming from Doty. She's just making this up. Most of the time when Doty blurts something out, it is true. Yeah. It's just a semblance of truth. Yeah, there's something going on there.

And for her to continue down this path where. You've got Doty talking about it and blurting it out. Jackson, Brittany, you're talking about it to other people. Janet wants to know more than anything. Like, she doesn't care about what's going on with the baby moon. She just wants to know what's going on in the rumors. And, like, there's got to be some sort of truth to it. And for her to sit there and not deny it, like, vehemently, is insane.

Yeah, I agree. I agree. But I guarantee we'll get more on that. There's no way that's the end of that story. But yeah, we move on from there. We get Jackson, Brittany, the first of many. very honestly uncomfortable interactions to watch. And I actually have a big issue with the rest of the cast in this house for the duration of this trip.

I will get into that more later. But he opens the door. He's like, you're the only one throwing up and you're always drinking. Why he's just like be normal? No one else is doing this. It's like, dude, everyone has already vouched for her once. We're going to see them vouch for her time and time again throughout this.

I'm 100% now under the guys that he is doing this to make it seem like she has a drinking problem so that when the relationship inevitably falls apart, which it already has, he's going to lean on that. Well, she couldn't control her drinking. It's like, yeah, maybe she gets sick from drinking and maybe she shouldn't because it makes her stomach fucked up. I don't know. But to use it more as like she has like an alcoholic drinking problem, we're not seeing that. In this moment, we're not seeing that. And the way he's going at her, it's uncomfortable, dude. Like it honestly just pissed me off. Yeah, no, it did the same thing to me. I mean, we've heard from multiple people, people. She wasn't drinking. She wasn't drinking. And it was really uncomfortable to watch her

last week in the car try to explain to all of her friends. Make sure that Jacks doesn't know about this because he's just going to think that I was drinking and I'm drunk. And what it really comes down to for me is, yeah, I mean, do I think that she drinks too much? Sure. But I think that a really big part of this and she kind of cracks it a little bit towards the end of the episode is the stress that comes along with it. Like, yeah, that's got to be a double edge sword where one, you're stressed the fuck out. And when you start drinking, you get more stressed out, but maybe the drinking helps a little bit because you get to forget about it. And it just goes around and around and around. And like there's reports that she has stomach

ulcers from all of this. That's stress induced as well. So if you have somebody like Jacks who's going to jump down your throat every time that you drink and going to call you a bad mom and insin, like sort of insinuate that we shouldn't have another kid because you're just going to keep drinking and be a terrible mother, like yeah, that's going to bring up a ton of stress. and you're not going to want to do that. That's just the easiest cop-out for Jacks to use, by the way. Him saying that the root of it is he doesn't want to have another kid. That's all.

So he's like, oh, I'm going to use this against her and make her feel like shit, because that's what I do because I'm Jacks Taylor. But we get to Jesse and Michelle, and they are talking about what Jacks has just told Michelle. Michelle calls Jesse upstairs. Hey, we need to have a quick chat. I actually like that Jesse just go straight to the source. He goes, Jacks, come up here. Like, we need Jacks.

I'm not doing this down the line. thing anymore like we're not playing telephone tag get him up here let's figure this shit out yeah but at the same time that says a lot about their marriage where michel's up there talking to him like he doesn't want to talk to his wife about this yeah yeah no you're 100% correct that is a testament to their marriage you know what i'm like i'm not going to listen to you let's get jacks in here i don't really trust you let's get jacks who uh the most trustworthy guy in the house let's get him up here but jacks explains the situation and i'm pretty sure that he could have said that he found the pictures and jesse would have been like no no big deal because jesse is trying to hold on for

dear life to this marriage so i don't think that i think that he was so ready to dismiss whatever claims were given to him that when he hears this he's just like nah i don't believe it like michel says that happened and also by the way christin's not a business woman she doesn't know how this works. I love that. I love that spin. She's not a business woman. She's not a career-driven woman. She doesn't know how this works. No, you don't send pictures of anything to anyone that you're meeting. I don't care what profession you're in. That's bizarre. But I did really battle with this, because in the first scene with Michelle talking to Jacks, I'm thinking the entire time that it goes back to my original theory of they broke up before the show even started filming and they're letting

this unfold. But now I'm doubting that because of the way that Jesse's acting. Jesse is erratic. Like when she walks in and she starts talking about it, he wants Jacks to come in. When Jacks comes in and he's talking about it, and we always know how Jacks, Jacks has like such a structured plan, like a strategy for dropping in this sort of rumor where he's like, I really don't want to do this. You know, I don't even know for sure. And then he like says half of it and then he stops. And Jesse's like jumping at him.

Like, all right, was it fucking true? Like is this what's going on? Are you doing this? Are you doing this? And she's like, no, of course not. And then he completely takes a step back. He goes, all right, cool. No, I believe you.

Yeah, Kristen's the fucking one to blame here. So he's all over the place. I don't know if he hates his wife and he's going to blame her. I don't know if he hates Jax for doing this. I don't know if he hates Doty or hates himself. Like, he's just all over the place. I can't really tell. You just cut out.

And I don't know how much of that was recorded. No, it's step. It kept going, yeah. Okay, cool. All right. We'll just keep rolling. That's the next scene anyway. So I'll figure it out when I edited.

But moving on from there, we get a recap of like the Jesse and the Danny drama from last week. Jesse got way too physical at the beach. No, he wasn't like physically assaulting and abusing Danny, but he takes it. There's guys like this and we know guys like this that they get drunk and they get like punchy and wrestling and it's fucking annoying and it's stupid and no one likes hanging out with those guys. Every straight dude in the world has this friend and they hate getting drunk with them. usually you have them in high school not as an adult not as not at 42 42 year old man

you know you don't like it's ridiculous so the fact that danny's upset i think is warranted but i think and then we find out a little bit later he's he's got a lot going on i think it was more a combination of everything and that was just like a stressor and everyone had been drinking and that was just a little bit of a trigger for him where he's like pushed him over the edge and all he wanted was an apology in the van on the ride back and then he got jesse be like quit being a pussy pretty much. And that, I think, was just, it was like the perfect combination of shit to just send him over the edge. But Jesse does come down and give him a hug. He apologizes to them. They're able to move past it. It's not the end of the world. It wasn't that big of a deal.

I just, again, I think it pointed to more that was going on there. But we do get a quick check-in with Michelle and Nia. And I guess Michelle actually did show them a house in Santa Clarita, because that's where Danny wants to move. Nia does not, because she already feels isolated in her postpartum battle that she's going through right now, she already feels isolated in raising the kids, like all these different things. So she wants to feel connected. She says, you know, Danny, I think that he hears me, but he's not acknowledging me. So it's going to be interesting to see. They seem just so lovely together that I think they'll figure this one out. I don't think it's the end of the world. I'm sure they'll have a conversation about this. I have high hopes for those two. So if they break my heart,

I might quit TV because they can't handle it. No, I had originally thought when she said she wanted to stay connected and she wanted to stay in the area I'm like who with who with who is very important to me because if you're talking about other friends that are off of the show fine if you're talking about family off of the show perfect do not stay connected to these fucking assholes

all of these idiots on the show you do not want to stay connected to them if you want to have a good family and a good marriage and everything go ahead and go out to Santa Clarita because as we found out it's what 25 30 minutes away somebody somebody DM does and said I live they they were close

enough proximity to this whole thing to be like it's like 45 to an hour with traffic realistically it's not that easy it's always traffic but's LA so yeah of course there's traffic it's traffic 24-7 but that was that was somebody that lives there that said like no it's not that easy it's kind of a pain in the ass so okay I don't know I mean whatever you know you live in LA Santa Clarito who gives a shit yeah we need a we need a fact checker on this we need to do some digging up this episode is brought to you by Miumu Introduce Missing Mutein, the new feminine fragrance by the iconic fashion house. Mutine captures the youthful, unconventional essence of the Mew-Meo Girl,

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Maybe we should fly out there and just do the drive ourselves. Go to the house. I'll call Brooks. I'll call Brooks. I'll know. Yeah, how hard is it to get the Santa Clarita from the Valley? Hey, Brooks. And you drive to the valley and then I want you to drive to Santa Clarita and back and tell me which way. You're super busy, but can you please do this for us?

Yeah. Because we need to know. That would be great. We get a dude seen outside and two different takeaways from this. Okay. So it was a very emotional moment. They all start kind of breaking down. This is a lot of men under a lot of stress.

Some of it. A lot of it is self-inflicted. so there's not a whole lot of sympathy at least at least half of it is yeah yeah there's another voice crack i know dude it's been cracked the whole time i went on i went on a walk today i was walking around my neighborhood and i yelled someone and my voice cracked i just no that's the worst the yeah i think i think i'm going through puberty again i don't know what's going on congratulations thank you i know uh a lot of mustache will get thicker but that would be nice in this scene uh we get Danny's upset, obviously, because of what had happened earlier, but he's a little, he's over that.

And, you know, Jesse's apology in this moment was really funny, actually, because he's like, I thought you were thick skin and you're not. You're just not. I was like, that's not the way to do that. But they all then show their admiration for Danny, which is true. Like, he is clearly the best guy in this group as far as moral compass, taking care of his family, his wife, everything. Like, he's a solid guy. And they all recognize that, which is actually really cool to hear everybody say those things. but look I know he's under a lot of stress and that's totally valid and like the

changing the diapers and I'm up every two hours putting babies on boobs this and that totally get it like that's a shitload of stuff you got going on super stressful the only part that I was like mm-hmm is when they're like and you bet you get no recognition for it no appreciation it's like guys pump the brakes because they're doing the same shit that you are you know if not sorry they're doing the same shit and more right so Nia's feeding the children via breastfeeding like everything you're going through they're also doing so it's not one of those where it's like hey give me a pat on the back they're going through it too that might be something they'll fall through the cracks is like appreciation for the other person

doing what they need to do that part i didn't agree with but being under but you're talking to you're talking to two guys whose marriages are failing mostly because of their actions now we're still not really sure the jury's kind of out on what's going on with jesse and michel whether whose fault it is, they're both assholes. So you can say that they're both at fault. Whatever. Jacks and Jesse are not the people that should be saying this, but they're also, much like we talked about how Jesse's the guy who's going to be physical and, like, grab you

on the beach and, like, put you in a headlock. They're also the guys that are going to go out on a guy's name and be like, oh, yeah, this is so nice because I don't have my wife nagging at me. Don't ever get married, am I right? Like, they go to their 16-year-old nephew and they're like, hey, man, don't ever get married, am I right? And then you walk away. Like, yeah, they're absolutely those guys.

And they're doing it to Danny, who's, you know, you just told him that he's a great father and he's doing all these things. Now you're nagging his wife. And Jason's sitting across the room looking at him like, I'm about to have a kid, you fucking morons. Like, this is my baby moon. Like the next thing you know, I'm going to be a father. So Jason, yeah. That was actually really funny to just watch him sit there like, oh, fuck. Yeah.

What's about to happen? Yeah, don't, don't put any emphasis on what Jacks and Jesse are saying. No, they're the worst two guys in the world to take this advice from. And, you know, the one thing that you can take away from this is, like, yes, like Danny, that's a lot of stress. And yes, you know, he's doing a whole lot to help out around the house. I don't think that you need a pat on the back from your wife. She's also doing the same amount plus a lot more.

So that's the only part I didn't agree with. But I do like when men get emotional on TV, men vulnerable. And I want to point that out because I do feel like it's still a stigmatized thing like dudes breaking down and having like a bro down where it's like, hey, man, I need to talk to you. Hey, man, I want to hear what you have to say. I'm going to shed a tear. You know what? I'm going to cry too.

Let's hug it out. That's some good shit. So I want some more of that on TV. I like seeing those moments a lot because, look, we have feelings too, man. Okay. I know everyone in this podcast knows I do because I cry way too much, but you know what I'm saying. You get it.

But Janet comes outside and. this i'm just chalking up to a miscommunication and she's also pregnant and very hungry so i'm not faulting her for her reaction i'm not faulting the dudes either because in that moment you have two grown men crying and hugging each other and they're like oh jesse shushing hers wrong yes that's true yes the the words used were incorrect but i think that it was just an abrupt like ah shit no you're not supposed to see this side of us get out of here that's what i got from it and then you have janet who you know goes upstairs she's pregnant starving fed up so like that whole scene's a wash for me as far as that part goes dinner is ready somehow

i'm not sure who cooked what or who was cooking where the girls fired up the grill they got the burgers done janet was inside slinging a bunch of shit so they got everything together while they're in the kitchen jacks takes it upon himself to say thanks for helping everyone unlike brittany because she's drunk half the people go she's not drunk she's car sick then they're asking well how is she feeling he's like i don't know i'm not dealing with that shit dude this is your wife this is your wife and then he starts giving everyone the third degree again and talking to the women in the room like she he's talking to the dudes he's like shut up i'm going to ask this you tell me what this is my big issue and this is something that has pissed me off about jacks taylor for a long time and i won't

i will never understand it i don't get why he gets a pass to talk to people like this across the board and other shows across the board in life when people treat people like this when they talk to women like this people check them they call them for their bullshit it's like he gets a pass because we know he's jack's taylor and we know he's a huge piece of shit i'm done with it i'm really done with it the fact that none of these guys in the house were able to step up in the moment that he's yelling at his wife and banging the door and talking shit and dragging her in front of the entire friend group not one guy can stand up and go yo dude shut the fuck up like that's your wife and she's right there you guys handle the shit on your own stop bringing us into it stop

embarrassing her in front of us i'm so disappointed in the cast not just the men everybody there is a party to that like that was bullshit the way he was talking to her was not cool it was uncomfortable i can't imagine sitting in that room and allowing that to occur or at least not trying to intervene and be like dude stop it like this is ridiculous that is your wife that's the mother of your child and you're trying to make her look like she's a raging alcoholic, irresponsible, and just like a piece of shit that can't get out of bed. It was so gross. And everyone just kind of nods along because it's Jacks Taylor.

People are watching at home like, oh, it's just Jacks being Jacks. Like, I'm fucking done with it. That guy sucks. Yeah. I want to challenge him to a rough and rowdy. If you're, that's what I would love to do. You've said that before. About Sandoval.

Now I want Jacks. I want Jacks in the ring. Would you do an exhibition? I would do one after the other. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure I'd knock Tom out of heartbeat. Both at the same time. Is it like a tag match, like one at a time, but both at the same time? Are they both me versus two of them at once?

I don't know if I could do that. Yeah, at once. Yeah, no, probably not. No, one after the other, yeah, I got them. You got a train. I'm pretty damn confident, but I do. I box two to three times a week, bro. I'm fucking ready.

I am so ready for this. All I needed is for them to hear this and be like, fine, we're in. We'll line it up. We know people at Barstall. We can set it up. This is a real thing. I'm going to keep doing this to what happens. You know that.

God. You would think, though, at some point. Now, I get it like, for the women in the room, you're just trying to have Kristen's back in the, or you're just trying to have Britney's back the entire time. Everything that Jack's is saying, you're like, dude, she wasn't drunk. She wasn't drunk. The way that he's talking to the girls, you would think one of the husbands would at least stand up for their wives.

That's what I'm seeing. Not only are they stand, they're not standing up for Britney who's sick in bed. You're not listening to your wife. And this douchebag is yelling at your wife and you're not going to just step and be like dude shut like fuck off go away go sit in a different room like you don't want to be with your wife because you hate your fucking life go somewhere else go sit on the deck by yourself for a while we don't want to talk to you you can't deal with this right now like somebody just do something because it's insane like he's been he's he's been ring leading all of the rumors that have been going on

and everybody knows it too every confessional that we get everybody's questioning jacks everybody's talking about jacks but they're like targeting doty for some reason who's not even there you have jacks right in front of you belittling your wife, belittling his own wife, beyond belief, and you're not going to step up and say anything? Like, I just don't understand any of it. It really, it was unacceptable. Honestly, I didn't care for it at all. Yeah.

I didn't think we needed it. Like, I'm glad we saw it because I just like when Jacks gets outed for being who he is. But that's one of those moments where it's like, oh, bro, like this sucks. This isn't fun to watch. But the good thing is the girls have recognized. I think Brittany, this is, I would imagine the actual turning point that I think that we can see Brittany's like, wow, this is not cool. Like, this is a shitty situation that I think I need to get out of.

I think this was, like, the tipping point of the separation, probably. But the girls do say, we're like, hey, this needs to change. Like, this is not good. This is bad. Like, it's not even like, oh, you guys argue, like, this is bad. You got to get the fuck out of here. Something's got to give. So I think I wrote in my notebook, Britney's starting to wake up.

And I think that we are getting that. So if that's what comes out of this is the separation that we got, great. like great good for her smart move yeah seriously but you know the funniest part is they suggest therapy and i thought it was interesting that jack says therapy doesn't work on me do you know who therapy doesn't work on sociopaths and narcissists and psychos that's that's real they cannot be therapistized therapist yeah they're nope you had it right you were right Thoropacized. Stop.

Why do you have to do it? You had it right the first time. Is thereipized? That's not a word. Yes, it is. Therapized? Yeah. Shut the fuck up.

Therapize is not a word. Oh, you're an ass. It is now. I think throposized is better. You shot that down, either or. But yeah, that's just an interesting thing to note. That's the only people that theropathy doesn't work on. Yeah, theropacized.

Yeah, theropacized me. up a yeah no it's it sounds like circumcised amount amount the fuck you're an idiot let's move forward you got to take it there yeah yeah i wasn't saying that he's got to go jason and janet jason and janet janet janet confirmed that brittney had not drank and when they start going back and forth again and by back and forth i mean jack's berating his wife through a door and slamming the door and all that shit she finally says i had two drinks all day so for that it's like all right maybe your stomach does doesn't agree with booze if that's why you're getting sick i'm 100% in the belief that this is stress induced this is a shitty marriage she feels bad about herself bad about her life bad about her

marriage she's stressed constantly she's worried i think that's leading to all these issues i don't think it's alcohol centric i definitely don't see an alcoholic drinking problem from what i've watched on this show obviously there's more depth to that i can't speak on that nobody can but i just i think that he's using this to his advantage he as we know self-proclaimed he looks 12 steps ahead yep no pun intended but like he's planning his next move so he's clearly planning on how to get out of this thing scot-free and that's how he's trying to do it by painting her as this raging alcoholic that can't take care of herself for the kids so how's supposed to stay you know what's really like not funny ha-ha but you know what's very funny about this that would that would work if you weren't on a TV

show you could convince people because people have seen brittney drunk and they understand and if you're telling people okay yeah no i've seen her drunk before she's been very open about the fact that she just throws up all the time like yeah she's kind of a mess maybe you had to get out of their jacks you're on a tv show like we're seeing this and we're seeing all of the evidence of it that that's not the way to go about it like now now nobody's going to be on your side nobody's going to believe you because we just watched this episode and we just realized what you do to her there shouldn't be sides that's your wife you're married that's no i meant i meant there's always sides with the bravo fandom no no i know no i get that part i'm just saying the fact that jacks is trying to rally the troops behind him in a potential

divorce is like dude you you clearly don't care like that's what it comes down to you don't care this is a move it's a chess piece it's a pawn in your fucking stupid game you think you're a genius and you're the biggest idiot in the room and we have to sit there and watch you every week on a great show by the way i can't i can't stress that enough but We get a shady Instagram post from Zach, which was so not an issue. It was so not important. It was a zoomed out location tag of Big Bear. And you would have thought that Charles fucking Manson was in the trees waiting to kick the door down.

Like the way Janet reacted, I was like, dude, come on. I thought this was such a great move by Zach. I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was so funny. I thought it was incredible. And you had the entire, like, what he planned on happening, it happened tenfold. The fact that Janet says that she was up all night worried that him and Doty were, and she's like, you know what? Like, if Zach showed up, I wouldn't be surprised. But just the idea that he would bring Doty here that had me up all night. Like, shut up, Janet. Like, I don't give a shit. You're such a baby. You want to be this, like, shady person that's not going to invite people to a cast trip on a Bravo, tv show but you're not going to be able to deal with this shit like it's it's funny it's smart it's petty and you're going to stay up all night and act like oh my god i'm being victimized i can't believe that they might show up like are they hanging out like the right reaction to that is what i think jesse or danny or whoever said it in the morning and they're like yeah i think i see zach

over there with his binoculars he's actually spying on it right now like that's the way to go about it like you don't lose sleep over it you weirdo he's not in the bushes man no we know that it's not hard to get a geotag from anywhere janet janet jennett pisses me off janet really she's brutal she's brutal i i think at this point let's let's bring back jason but janet you know what go just go somewhere else and you know what they're still married yeah while they're still married jason can stay on the show because jason brings a different level to this show and we'll talk about that later with what he does in the boat and what he's been doing like he's just been hanging yeah it's it's literally it's just intelligence he's just been hanging out listening to everything going on and he goes

right after people. He does the opposite of what his wife does. His wife tries to make all these little sneaky moves and hang out in the back and listen to all the gossip through her stupid minion boys that are just like running around. What the fuck's his name? Colin? I don't know his name. Simon. Simon. Pink boot. Pink out of ass. Yeah. Like, oh, think crocs. Pink crock boots. Yeah, whatever. Who cares? But yeah, that's what she wants to do. She just doesn't do it for me on the show. She's just too much, like at least commit to a side. If you want to be petty and not invite them, laugh about it in the morning and be like look at this loser posting this like i'd be behind that i'd be like you know what good for you you're being consistent don't act like you're the victim now let's

yeah you can you can't you can't throw shade and then back down when the shade is thrown back at you and by the way done much better and that's what zach says he says i'm petty with a purpose and you know what you are sir and well done very well executed zach has worked his way up to the top of my list of this show. He is fantastic. So bravo, Zach, keep up the good work. I do need to point out, Michelle hugged Jesse from behind for the first time. There's two things to this one. The first thing, it's very interesting that the first time you show that kind of affection towards Jesse is the day after Jacks has this conversation with you about you sending sexy pics to Tarantino. We're just going to assume it's Tarantino, by the way. Yeah, we are.

I thought that was interesting timing that now you're being lov-y-dovey. On Jesse's side of things, I think that it's fucking dumb that every time she shows you more affection, you sexualize it. You make a joke about it, yeah. I think that's dumb. So there's two ways to look at the Michelle aspect. One, she might actually feel affection towards him because he took her side last night instead of saying and like making it a big fight and talking to Michelle about it and actually asking her. there it's slight chance because all this is the only reason I'm saying this is because we've seen him make a lot of different efforts and she is cold and emotionless the entire time but this time she's doing it so I'm like maybe maybe just a small percent chance like seven percent that maybe you're like this guy maybe she's attracted to him now and she's like whoa he just stood up for me against jacks he's not leading into this rumors that's seven percent dude relax fucking seven percent nine just He's confused.

It's usually not this guy. 93% well, I'm still this guy. 93% is that she absolutely set naked pictures. And my thought is she's going up from behind because if she's in front of him, he can see her phone. So he can see if she's sending sexy pics. There he is. Yeah, I got to bring back. Yeah, I got you back.

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The white chocolate macadamia cream cold brew from Starbucks is made just the way you like it. Handcrafted cold foam topped with toasted cookie crumble. It's a sweet summer twist on iced coffee. Your cold brew is ready at Starbucks. Jesse, out of nowhere, and this is just projection, I think, because as soon as he saw a door into Danny being like, oh, Nia doesn't appreciate this. Because Jesse set that up the night before, he's like, oh, I'm going to keep prodding this a little bit and he says you know i think you're full of shit because nea wears the pants

and that's not somebody that makes you feel confident i was like whoa whoa yeah now there's no pants in that relationship which is the good thing like they are a from everything we've seen and obviously it's a small sample size but they're a team they've worked very well together i don't see anybody like making demands of the other one again this is what we've been given on tv so we can't speak in truths or like an absolutes i mean but that's not the helpful to go after at all. And it was really random that he decided to set his sights on Danny. And I think that's just him like, fuck, my marriage is awful. These two seem to have it figured out. They're having a tough time right now because they got three under two. Understandably so. They're also looking at a move. There's a lot of things, a lot of balls up in the air. So like, they are actually having real marriage problems as far like not their marriage is falling apart, but they're having tough times together and getting through it together. Are they going to be? be bumps in the road? Yes, there's going to be speed bumps, figuring shit out for sure. They're not falling apart. They don't need your two cents, Jesse, of all people. And then

Jacks decides to chime in. And he says, Brittany wears the pants. I was like, what the fuck are you smoking? Are you kidding me? Brittany doesn't wear the pants. That poor girl does anything that you ask of her, gets berated by you. You apologize haphazardly. And then she's over it. She's finally seen the light. Thank God. But I didn't, I didn't even think this was like delusional either. That's the weirdest part. Like when Jack says stuff like that, it's a play. We know that anything that comes out of Jack's mouth is some sort of play, some sort of strategy. I don't know what he's cooking up, but he's doing something. We don't know what the hell's going on in there. Ma, the meatloaf, what she's doing back there? That's Jack's. Like, I just never understand what he's

up to. And he's always up to something. So I don't put anything into that. And you hit the nail on the head. Jesse is absolutely projecting. And he sees Danny and he sees a little in there and misery loves company my marriage is falling apart i feel like this guy just had a breakdown last night the only reason that danny had a breakdown is because he's going through a lot he's got three under two he's got nia who's dealing with postpartum there's a lot going on in his life let the fucking guy break down and try to talk to his friends about it without you seeing that as a way to get into him and start changing his mind on his marriage fuck off don't do that just don't do that And what's going on this entire time is we just get to have Jacks keep spinning this and spinning this and spinning this.

And eventually he's going to say something fucking stupid. And he does. Yes, he does because he starts talking trying to relate or trying to be the voice of reason. I don't know. He brings it back to drinking again. And he goes, am I causing her to drink? And the thing that he says that gets him in a hole, he's like, my marriage is on the fence too. Because he was talking to Jess, and he says to him, you're the last person I would take marriage advice from.

That's actually a smart move. That's good. You shouldn't. If you're going to go to anybody. That part of the sentence, that's where you should have cut the sentence off. That is where the sentence should be cut off. No, he didn't say my marriage is falling apart too. He said, your marriage is falling apart too.

And he said, your marriage is on the fence, too. Two. Yes. All right. On the fence, too. And the fact that he did that that was a Freudian slip. He did not mean to say that. Because everything else that he was saying so far in this conversation was trying to reel it back in, trying to put people in the good graces of Brittany, trying to say, you know what? Maybe I fucked up last night. I'm going to be a better husband. It's what Jacks does every year. I mean, we saw him on the VPR reunions. You see that little clip every single year. He talks about working on himself, working on himself. He's not working on himself. He just likes to say that and try to convince people that he is. This is what he's doing right now in real time, except he got a little too carried away and he let something slip out there.

Yep. And all he does after that, like you said, is backpedal. And he's like, no, we're great. We're so great. Everything's solid. It's just a speed bump, just a rough patch. We're in 1950s marriage. We don't believe in divorce or separation. Just fucking crazy. Probably shouldn't have said that because did you jinx it? I don't know. Is that why you're separated? You moron? Thankfully, Jason's sitting there and he's listening to everything. And he hasn't really said much so far. He's just observing and observing. And then he finally sees something a little crack. And he can do. go after it. Yeah. He goes, why did you say two? Just a great play. You said two.

No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. Yeah, he did. Jack's panic mode, just the fucking panic throttle. He starts losing his mind. God. The one thing I'll give Jesse credit for is his confessional after this. He recognizes Jack's his marriage.

And no, he's not the person to go to for advice in this, but he is somebody that has gone through it. And he says, jacks needs to make the changes that i made too late so he's aware that and this is the big picture of this marriage between jesse and michel that should not be glossed over because michel's being an asshole right now there's a reason that she was pushed away i'm not saying that is vindication for stepping out and texting other dudes and sending sexy vicks to tarentino but as he pointed out he made the changes too late so he was a piece of shit for a while

she's being a piece of shit now it's two people that they're too far apart like he said i'm now chasing after and she just keeps getting too far away from me that's what happened he was too far away early on the minute he decided that he wanted to fix things it was too late for her she's already out so the self-awareness there and again it's the confessional weeks or a month later so who knows hindsight to mofo but i did appreciate that at least he's like yeah i made these changes too late that that's on me or at least he didn't say that if he does say that i'll give him props he implied it yeah yeah so look all in all great episode great great great show uh jacks is a just a steaming pile of shit yeah and that i can't believe he gets away with talking to brittany

like that like it really it just kind of it sucks to watch dude yeah like at the end of the day it's just not not fun to watch but no let's wrap this bad boy up with some preguntas the question master is back darn right back on my rightful throne baby so let's jump right in up first janet is the biggest villain on the show do you agree from a lemb vibes yes i do i think that she's the biggest villain because she's still hiding behind the mask of i'm nice and i'm cool and i'm not a villain because jacks we know is the villain yeah i think jacks is still the biggest villain but janet's trying and she's she's trying too hard and she doesn't actually actually know how to play. And look, it's only going to get worse for her. If you're going to be

able to sit there and you're going to cry that Zach posted something, implying that he may have been at Bear Lake and this whole thing is going to keep you up all night, you are not going to be able to handle Doty when you get home. No. You are not going to be able to handle that. And you still have to answer for those things. So we still are going to get some sort of fiery ending to the season because I imagine it's probably over the next three episodes. What is this the ninth? I imagine they probably have 12 episodes,ish, maybe even 10, who knows. At some point, you're going to have to deal with the doughty of it all and you're not going to be able to handle that no and we called that out a couple of weeks ago when she started picking on dotey we're like

do you really want to start this fight like i don't think that you're ready for what dody brings to the table i really don't think you're prepared for reality you might know dody off tv you've never been in the ring with her and i don't think you want to step and she's going to find out quick but from rany i got to ask this one do we think jenny is maybe secretly kind of a monster Not that serious, just a theory. No, based on what? No, that's a crazy question. I read that question.

I just don't think so. I think that Ray underscore Ney, I think you're just trying to drum up some shit. And until we see anything, why don't you back off of Danny? Yeah, no, I saw the one that you're laughing at, Lowe's. Yeah. I'm going to show it to the screen. Jesse and Danny.

Jesse and Danny looking at each other. his eyes after a hug and he just question marks over is he implying that there is there sexual attention is that the application lois that's a good question i i think maybe there is a little sexual tension there there might be a little sexual tension there they are looking longingly into each other's eyes thank you for the screenshot lois lois is back great question lois comes back with a haymaker well done sir from holly tug not really a question but watching jack speak so ugly to brittany is so hard to watch thank you for pointing that out we firmly agree from janey gibbs love this one how often should bros have a good cry sesh and let me tell you let me tell you if you're feeling

it let it out as a dude i'm sick of dudes getting judged for tearing up and letting it flow just cry a good cry will make you feel so much scheduled doesn't have to be scheduled could be a movie that brings it on maybe a bad tic-tok yeah Yeah, no, I am. Yeah, movies. Songs fucking smoke me. Well, usually songs in movies, songs in movies. Oh, that's a whole different level.

I'm talking about both separately, but you give me a song during, like, the right time in a movie, I'm toast. But I cried it. Like, it's embarrassing at this point. No, it's not. It is not embarrassing. I'm counterproductive. This is what's ingrained in our heads. I was watching, oh, Poppy and I went to go see If.

It's the new imaginary friends movie with Ryan Reynolds. The first of all, if you have a. seen this movie it's it was a good movie but it is very sad it starts out sad that stays sad the whole time i think i cried three times then we got done the movie and poppy poppy and i and i was it good i was kind of sad she's like oh did you guys cry and poppy's like i almost it i was like yeah like three times poppy was tougher than me i couldn't i thought i thought you were going to say that uh that poppy hopped on the phone she's like dad cried like 10 times yeah Dad was sobbing like a little bitch the whole time.

No, no, no. But that's my point. For dudes, if you got to cry, man, just cry. And if people judge you for it, fuck them. Any guy that's not masculine enough or tough enough to let a tear out, he's faking it. He's insecure. I would argue that you're a bigger bitch if you're unable to cry. Yeah, absolutely.

That's my take. But the last one, where did it go? I saw it. Damn it. Oh, this is just a fun one to end it with because I have an answer for. for you, Christy Jedlicky Steele, where would you and Dev go for a baby moon and would you go with friends or not? No, we would not go with friends. I love my friends dearly. They're not invited and they weren't invited. We went to Italy as our honeymoon slash baby moon,

solo, me and Dev one-on-one, lovely time, lovely trip, loved every minute of it. No, shooter was not there. He would have ruined it. You were missing one thing on that trip, though, and it wasn't me. It wasn't me. It was poppy. sorry yeah that that's a nice way to put in yeah I was going to say the leather jacket you knew what I was doing no I know I know what you're doing but yeah Poppy would have made that the perfect trip but yes the leather jacket still sits in Monte Polchiano if somebody finds that leather jacket and buys it for me somebody offered and I told them to keep their money and spend on themselves which is very sweet yeah but they were also not going to Monte Polciano if you go to

Monte Bolchiano and you pass a store with a fucking badass, like, bomber jacket with the fuzz. It looks like straight out of Masters of the Air. And you see that jacket, buy that jacket. I will Venmo you back. Well, I might be going to Italy later in the year. So if I do, if I do and I go there, I will buy it and I will take a sexy pick for you. No, because then you're going to, I know what you're going to do.

You're going to keep it and wear it around in front of me. They're going to wear it every time. I know. I know you will. I know this move. And then like a two years later, you're going to wrap it up and give it to me for Christmas. I know you way too well. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Remote. Remote sessions are finished. Remote are done. We're good. Until June 7th because Poppy made the all-star team. We got an all-star tournament. Baby. So I'll be back. Yeah, baby. So we'll be doing remote recordings then, but June 7th is a Friday. Yeah, seven. Oh, yeah. So we won't even have to. That's a good point. It's that weekend. So yeah, we're good. But last thing, remember to sign up for Brab Bros members. Link is in the bio or at the bottom of this episode to sign up. $5 for the month. $50 for the year. We are getting close that one, sorry, we're past 150 now. So now we're climbing to 250. And then we will have our rom-com episodes, which we're really excited about. We love rom-coms. And we want to know which ones you want us to watch because it'll be interesting to see what the, Public. Public? Our audience. What our audience wants us to watch. What are our members? What are our audience? Our members. Our brav-brough members.

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