Bros & Shows - Lisa Barlow on Trial and Cucumbers Below Deck (Part 2 of 2)(RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

What's up Bros? Welcome to the conclusion of our RHOSLC recap. In part 2 we break down dinner. Angie and Mary are not in attendance as Mary is catering to Angie as she's sick. What a good friend. Meanwhile up top, it hits the fan. Up first, Brittani... Her and Meredith get into it. Then, Heather calls out Lisa as the leak. Lisa obviously doesn't take it well and starts to clap back. Things get outta hand as everyone is trying to be heard (the booze isnt helping). Heather keeps reiterating what a good friend she is, which is sorta tough to say considering youre accusing your "friend" of some pretty awful stuff... Will we get the answer to who's behind the leak? Will Lisa get kicked off the yacht? Time will tell.... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Rosen shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. We're going to do a cold intro. Welcome back to part two of our Roslick recap. We are about to head into dinner with everybody. We just got through Heather and Meredith and Whitney talking about this whole thing. And Bronwyn, of course, which leads us to the dinner. Baby step.

Baby steps. We wanted to make sure we did two times. Plan it all out. This episode was so packed with shit that we needed to make sure we got to all of it. It's a longer episode. It was like 54 minutes. It was like 54 minutes. Yep.

And those were a very eventful 54 minutes. Before we get to the main dinner, we check in with Mary and Angie. Angie is still sick as shit. So Mary is going to have dinner with her, which is sweet. It does take it out of the events later. Yeah. It's mutually beneficial. Mary doesn't have to deal with the events

that are going on upstairs. She just gets to eat in her bed and watch a little TV and hang out with Angie. Angie doesn't have to feel alone. It was nice. That's friendship. But do we miss out on having Mary

with the other group? I think she would contribute. I think for a trip like this, she'll have her chance. She'll get in on something. I think it was funny. It was almost like comic relief. Like, let's bounce back down here.

I'd feel bad if we kept bouncing back down to Angie just sitting there like, ugh, I feel like sick. Solo. And then now we have Mary in there, so it's fine. I liked it. I was just saying, are we going to miss out? And I guess you're right, because they're in confined spaces, we'll get Mary's opinion at some point.

So it's not like we're missing out entirely. And it did make for a nice little reprieve from all the craziness. So let's get to dinner, dinner. Angie, M.A, Mary, M.A. Everyone else is upstairs. And it's important to note that we've been marinating all day. We're in the hot sun. We're out on the water.

Lots of booze. So filters are going to be down. Defenses are going to be down. Shit's going to get crazy. And it starts off not where I thought we would start. Because Heather's like, I miss Mary's commentary. As do we all. Brittany does not.

Yeah. I didn't realize that, like, I knew that Mary didn't care for Brittany, but I thought it was more of a, we just don't talk. I get it to a certain extent because it does seem like every time Brittany talks around Mary, Mary tells her to shut up pretty much. Because she's annoying. She is annoying. I understand that. But you know what? Brittany's entitled to her opinion. That's fine.

But then she does something really dumb because she claims I'm the only one that says things to people's face. Which a lot of the times you do, a lot of times it's unnecessary. Yeah, nobody cares what you're saying. Yeah. And you just set up a huge softball. Right.

And it gets hit right back at your face. This is another one of those. because she makes that claim, which is a bold claim, and if you do make that claim, you should know that you're about to be questioned about times that you've talked shit behind people's back, which is what we get.

And Bronwyn, roommate Bronwyn, pulls no punches. She's like, oh, really? You say it to everybody's face? Well, let's ask the people that you talked about if you said it to them. For example, Lisa, she said that she's trying too hard to big sister you, which is important, though, I think.

I think that adds validity to what you were saying. I do think, because we haven't seen any of their friendship, right? No. We haven't seen this flourishing sisterhood that Brittany claims to have. This gives more evidence to, well, they're clearly talking. So it sounds to me exactly like what you said. Lisa needs somebody to divulge her information too. Yeah, we know exactly how those conversations are going.

It's 99.8% Lisa talking about her day, about what's going on, just needing a soundboard and that 0.02% or whatever it was, because I already forgot the number that I used, is Brittany finally interjecting like, oh, I've got a problem with Meredith too. Okay, see ya. Jared. I can't talk about Jared anymore. I know I'm going to get water. Meredith, I have a problem with Meredith.

I do think it's really funny, though, too, because this was clearly a scene that was pre-boat. It was probably leading up to the trip. And I love the idea that producers probably had to call Bronwyn and say, yeah, we need you to get over to the store and film with Brim. Brittany. Anyone else going to be there? No. Just you. That's not what I want to do. But she made the most of it.

This is perfect because all she did in that scene while she was in the dressing room was just ask her some pointed questions. Like what's going on? I thought you and Meredith were great. I thought everything was fine. Oh, let me tell you about Meredith. Okay, I'll take some notes on this one. Go, wait, right ahead. Go. You don't even have to look at her so you can make all the faces that you want. You can just immediately look like, do the Jim Halper and look at the camera. Are you fucking kidding me with this one? this is what we're doing here.

So yeah, let me get some information and just use it against you the next time you talk. Yep. And the claim was that Meredith goes from zero to a hundred. It's like she has a seizure, which is interesting word choice.

And I think Heather was at the table. She's like, I thought she's been super supportive of you, no. And Bronwyn keeps going. She's like, well, she says you slur your words. And then Meredith jumps in. She's like, yeah. She's like, seizure.

That's a whole. horrible thing to say. People have those. Yeah. Yeah. People do. One of those people being my son. You know there's also kids starving in different countries.

It's the same thing. I wish we got a montage of her of her statements like that. That was so good. And she takes her, I thought she's going to throw a drink. She just takes Britney's drink and she's like, that's enough. And then this is,

this is such a moment for Meredith. Because we get Brittany trying to throw the water, just fucking block party. Bam, see ya. She, Kenbei Matumbo's that shit, right into Bronwyn. See you later. Bronwyn, I thought, handled it pretty well. That could have taken the turn.

Yeah, she just got up and kind of dried herself off. Which is the right thing to do to make it a scene there. And Meredith speaks for all of us. No one cares, Brittany. Nobody cares what you're saying. Nobody cares about this, any of it. And we got a confessional with Brittany. and she's like, she dislikes me because I'm the only one not afraid of her.

Yeah. No one's afraid of Meredith. No. For starters. She's definitely not afraid of you, Brittany. And this is not the big moment that you think it is where it's like, ha, ha, I've silenced Meredith Marks. And everyone knows that Meredith doesn't get signed. Merit doesn't talk.

No. Meredith doesn't talk. And also the fact that you were able to come away from that situation after getting water poured on you to say that, yeah, she doesn't. like me. I got under his skin. No, he didn't. No, she blocked the water. The one thing he tried to do didn't land physically. Very funny. Anyway, although my favorite part is her going over Meredith's accent, which somehow was British according to her. Yes, it was. Which makes me question how she hears people talk. Meredith definitely has a tone. It's not British. It's not British. It's not British. It's not British. No. And I do think that maybe Brittany walks around in their own

world. Oh, she does. British accents coming in. What's going on here? Those are the voices in her head. I wonder Brittany thinks that her accent is British. I would love to know what she thinks her accent is. That's a good question.

It's definitely not what she thinks it is. Yeah. Jared, this distinguished Australian man. Yeah, exactly. My beautiful Aussie, Jared. Yeah, exactly. And as Meredith's freaking out, although she does in a very Meredith Mark's way, Brittany's trying to use this as an example, which is so funny.

She's like, see, this is what I'm talking about. It's like, no. Seizure. Somebody stop her. Quick, hold her arms. No, but. I don't think Brittany knows what a seizure is. I don't think she does either.

I think she thinks a seizure is like a moment of like. Yeah, she's seizing in the moment. Yeah, or she's seizing the moment. She's doing it again. Quit seizing things. That's what she thinks it is. That's exactly what she thinks is happening. Yep, 100%.

But this is not a. moment in which you can take what's currently happening and be like, this is what I'm talking about. It's like, well, no, you said mean shit. And now she's reacting to you. And then you try to throw water on her and she is again reacting to you. Brittany's ability to look at a situation in which she caused and take herself out of it entirely and throw the blame everywhere else is remarkable. Yeah.

It's fascinating. It's fascinating. And this is such an easy layup to for somebody like Bronwyn who, yeah, she did have to, you know, dodge some water coming her way, but she didn't have to say anything after she dropped that. Because she knows how it's going to play out. Lisa, I don't know what Lisa thought she said, but Lisa was offended by that. I know. It's like, that's not really what's going on because actually that seems truthful.

Yeah. It does seem truthful that Britney's coming to you with any sort of problems, and you're a big sistering her by being like, oh, get over it. It's not that big of a deal. I've been through so much worse, and that's probably how those conversations go. But Brahman doing that and also adding in just a couple more nuggets of information, maybe twisting some words here and there. It doesn't matter with Brittany because she's going to say something afterwards that's

going to be worse, and then you're going to be exonerated immediately. And also, when we go to the reunion, if it even gets played at the reunion, nobody's going to care that you twisted the words. No. So it doesn't really matter. No, because the end result was great. Yeah. And it caused this.

And Meredith lists the reasons. This is the problem. Brittany, people take notes. She's like, all right, well, let's see. You lied to us incessantly. you recorded us and a list of other nasty things that you've done.

Your track record's not clean. It's just Brittany doesn't remember. Yeah. She doesn't, and she also, as we've seen, as I just said, takes herself out of these scenarios.

So she's completely blameless in her own mind. But we get a montage of all the shitty stuff that she's done. And I hated this move. This was dumb. And I know what she's trying to do.

She says, I want to disengage. Don't take a Meredithism. and try to flip it on Meredith. It didn't land. I didn't care for it. And the only saving grace is that Heather steps in to redirects. We were getting off the rails.

This is about Bronwyn. This is about Lisa. This is about Lisa owning her shit. Heather redirects. Brittany looks absolutely disheveled in this moment. I don't know if you saw her taking a sip of that. Oh, yeah. We know we're about to get into the good stuff.

And Whitney, it was weird that she said this to ask you, you need to own something, Heather. It's like, you guys are on the same team. Yeah, I didn't really understand that. And then she said, and you need to own something. And it was Meredith. What do you mean? What are we doing?

But it's the best response every, yeah, you guys should talk about it. Yeah, like, sure. Yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm not fucking getting involved in this. But again, Whitney, what are you doing? You point at Lisa and say you need to own something or you say anything else. That might be a good segue into the next conversation. By pointing at Heather and Meredith, it's just confusing.

Your cohorts, you blamed them. Yeah. you're blaming them. I think Heather was very confused by that. Meredith was not, because Meredith knew exactly what was going to happen. She knows what the plan is. You guys all called me into the bedroom, talked about it. I'm not involved. I'm sure in Whitney's that she said, this is a great setup.

Yeah. I'm going to tee it up for you guys. You knock it out of the park. Go right ahead, guys, because if I say it, it's going to fall on deaf ears. Yeah, I mean, honestly, and that's probably why she didn't look at Lisa and say, you've got a lot to answer for. And we'll get right back to the rest of our episode, but first,

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Yep. Rit the Band-Aid off right away. I love that. I'm actually surprised that she did that too because we've seen her be the lead, be in charge of a certain witch trial, if you want to call it that. She usually has a pretty long preamble.

Yeah, it's usually telling it that everybody has to listen to before she gets there. That she wrote down before. I appreciate the fact that she's ripped the Band-Aid off for our sake. Yeah, just get into it. We don't need to waste any time. Lisa instantly freaks out. Starts yelling, starts getting pissed off.

points at Marith, it's like, so dumb, you better have had my back. Meredith cowers immediately. She's like, I hope it's not true. She's like, it's not. She's like, it's all I need. All right, you're exonerated in my opinion. Yeah, I guess so. This line in particular, I highlighted boxed in and asterisk because I think this is really

important. And she keeps hammering this one home. It's not my fault that people tell me things. So what she's trying to do is exonerate herself from the, the digging. Yes. I'm not digging. People tell me things.

The- Leases identified the digging as the main issue here. Right. If I can move myself away from the digging and just say, people come over and tell me things and then I use it on the show, it's somehow less bad. You're still perpetuating.

I think it is, but you're still perpetuating. That's the problem. So you're not completely absolved. Even if you're not the one digging, which we do think you are. However, this is an iconic line, I think. I guess I'm the motherfucking dawn of Salt Lake. Yeah. That was kind of cool.

But for her to go to a confessional then, and she's also doing this in real time saying, I've never dug up anything on anyone. False. It's definitely false. She's making claims that she's never done anything to anyone. False. So now you're stacking up evidence against you because now we don't believe you. And she just goes through the list. I hear shit all the time.

I hear shit here. I hear shit there. Shut the fuck up about me because it's not true. Grabs Heather's face and is walking around the table just having a complete fucking meltdown. Meanwhile, Mary and Andrew having a really nice time. We're having a great time, just commenting on all the loud noises upstairs. You could hear them yelling in their room. And she...

Well, they are out at sea. It's pretty quiet out there. That's a good point. It's a really good point. And amidst the meltdown, she looks at Meredith and's like, you better fucking say sorry and you better... I think that is also a big moment. And I would like to discuss it because she's doing what Heather says.

You're throwing your weight around right now. You're trying to strong arm people into having your back. you're still not addressing what we're talking about. Yeah, you're trying to be intimidating. You're trying to get in people's faces to have your back, which is not going to work, especially to Meredith, who she's done. She checked out. She's been checked out.

Yeah, she actually wasted all of her energy on Brittany. Yep. She may have had a little bit of energy to try to further a conversation here, but no, it's already gone. So that's not going to work. I love the way that Heather went about it was hilarious because she's still trying to boast from this. I'm trying to be a good friend. I've always been a good friend to you

So by calling you out And Mary actually furthers this later By saying you're just being a good friend And calling her out Trying to get her on the right path That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me You're calling her out in front of everybody Telling her that she's the one who's digging things up

While Bronwyn is currently going through something Pretty much accusing Lisa Of digging up the things on Bronwyn That we're talking about right now That's not necessarily a good friend I think a good friend would maybe pull you aside But then you go into all of that because we've seen Heather pull Lisa aside one-on-one,

those conversations never go well. They go the same that this conversation's going. Sort of, yeah, except, you know, usually it ends with Lisa kind of boasting about her life and saying we live different lives. But for this, it's in front of everybody. So it is the most effective way to do it. And that's why Lisa's so rattled because it's almost like you're embarrassing me in front of everybody right now.

How are you being a good friend? That's a good point. It's a really good point. But Heather's not backing down. She's relentless. She's like, just fucking own it as Jason's trying to, give her a plate of food, I think, to calm the situation down, realizes that it's unsalvageable, so he bounces.

He's like, I was going to have dinner with him, but fuck that. Love that guy. And Heather calls her out flat out, you fucking defensive, fucking bitch. Bam. That was a big one. Yeah, tensions rose very quick. Tensions were very tense. I think this was the most damning portion for me, though.

I'm curious your take on it. Because Heather looks at Lisa and says, you know all of it. So fucking tell her, alluding to Bronwyn, tell her what you know. Lisa doesn't deny. It actually looks like she acknowledged like, yeah, I do, but no, I'm not going to do that. Yeah. That's what I took from it. That's kind of what I took from it, too, and she did an okay job.

Not that it really matters of cleaning it up a little bit, because she did say everybody saw it. It's in the headlines. Everybody's read this. Everybody knows what's going on. It's on the internet. But the way that she started, it seemed like, yeah, she's. She knew everything, and she's known everything for a little while now. If this news just broke a couple of days ago, you would probably be a little bit more surprised that the news broke and not doing what you're doing right now.

Exactly. To me, it sounds like you have all of this info and you were waiting for the right time to use it. You didn't get the opportunity to be the one to use it because they brought it directly to you after you probably leaked it to the press. Yeah. I think that her, you know, bringing up what I said earlier, being stuck on the digger. portion of it. Well, you're digging things up, digging things up. I think that she feels she's not guilty because all she did was repeat what she heard. That's not my fault. I'm not starting rumors. I don't think that she acknowledges or understands that perpetuating the rumors as

bad as starting the rumor. Pettuating the rumors when you have a platform on a show where somebody's going to have to answer to those rumors in front of everything and then blogs are going to be written about them and headlines and articles and all these things are going to come from it. That's worse. starting the rumor isn't the issue here. It's the fact that you're using now your platform to do it. Yes, and that's what people are stuck on, and that's what you've done in the past and why they're fed up with you.

And instead of, she had no defense, she had no solid defense in my mind, at least, and she starts pointing fingers everywhere else. She starts blaming other people saying, I love how this got spun. Heather's line of, you're spinning it, you moron. That's the best way to put it. You're doing...

This, I do think that the way that this evolved showed me what Heather's actually doing because I was questioning a couple of things the way that she was going about it, what her intent was, was it just for the show, or is she actually fed up? This confirmed that she's fed up. Yeah, she is. She's fully fed up because of the way going from calling her a defensive bitch to calling her a moron very quickly shows me you are completely fed up, not only with what she's doing, but also the way that she's reacting when she gets called out to it. Yes.

I think that a big part of Heather's thing is that she's felt and the fact that she keeps repeating over and over and over again, I've been such a good friend to you, I've been such a good friend to you. I feel like she's reached a point where I don't know if the blinders are off. I don't know if she's having a come to Jesus moment or if it's just literally that she's completely fed up or probably a combination of those. But she's looking at their friendship and she's like, I fucking sell out for this woman. And we've watched her sell out for Lisa Barlow for years. She always bites the bullet. A lot of times is on the wrong side of history. But she goes down with the ship.

I think she finally is looking at her friendship. And I think that this is also indicative of Lisa's kind of separated from the group now. So we're seeing a lot of these ladies stand on their own and look at what they bring to the show and what they have without Lisa. Like, wow, wait, I do have a platform of my own. I don't need to be on the Lisa Barlow train to be effective. So now they're looking at their friendship with her. Heather in particular, going, this is so lopsided. She doesn't do shit for me.

And this is all that I've done for her. So I think that, one, she's fed up with the bullshit coming out. She's fed up with people leaking things to the press. This goes back to Monica Garcia, feeling that the group's not safe. And two, she feels disrespected. She feels disrespected personally. I also think that this is also what we get into when we are on a show that everybody's friends. Yeah.

Which it really makes for a good show because you can show the real connections. you can see friendships blossom, you can see friendships fall apart. But when the core group is friendly and when the core group is having a good time and there's one person who's not, it's got to be tiring. Yeah.

When you're having a good time going back to the camping trip that Lisa wasn't part of, yeah, you talked about Lisa a little bit, but you guys had a lot of fun. And when Lisa's not around, you guys have a lot of fun. You have your one-on-one scenes.

Think about even just going in the ocean earlier that day. You were having a blast with Angie who was puking. You were even having fun with Brittany who was just trying to hit on every guy. Lisa gets involved. You have to constantly think about what she's saying, have to respond to her in a way that's not going to upset her. It's got to be exhausting to do that.

So I think maybe this is just a breaking point, too. I think so. I think we're seeing all of it come to a head, and she's not pulling any punches. She's going full throttle. And you pointing out the fact that she went from defensive bitch or whatever to moron shows. Yeah. Because she has frustration.

Right, exactly. It's all boiled over. And Heather's trying to. get through her head. It's like, look, I'm being a good friend. And Lisa, she's like, being a good friend's not accusing me of this shit in front of people. I'm like, yeah, you're right. I agree with that part. But she still starts pointing fingers everywhere else. She's like, none of this is true. Ask your buddies, blah, blah, blah. And she calls J.B. Husband boss. As she's like melting down, walking off the boat. Heather kicks her off the yacht for a minute.

And then just to try to get through to her, I think. I think so too. But then the response was immediately fine. I'll leave if you want me to leave. It's not what I wanted. No. So wanted you to actually come back to Earth, maybe have a conversation with us. No, okay. Okay, cool. And Heather's following her while she's talking to J.B. husband, boss. And she's giving like an ultimatum.

And then she turns the phone to Heather. It's like, tell John what she said. It's like, why? Poor John. Poor John. You never talk to me. And the only time he do is when people are yelling at you. Yeah.

Thanks. It's almost like he answers the phone. And he's like, what did you do now? Yeah, honestly. That is the vibe that I get. But he's just like the one. little line that we hear from J.B. is just don't be sad. Like, what are you doing? Yeah. What's the issue? She's crying hysterically trying to walk away from Heather. Heather's still

just pounding into her head. I'm just trying to be a good friend. Yeah. Come on. Let me just be a good friend to you. Well, I'm still going to just berate you in front of everybody. But let me be a good friend. Tough love. Yeah. Tough love hurts. And she finds like a floating pontoon at the end of the boat. I think that's probably what they launched the skis or whatever. But it's also you can stand on the pad and jump off. I was watching Blowdeck earlier. There you go, nice. I told you. Yeah, sweet.

I'm doing this episode for two hours. Love that yesterday. Love that for you. So she's sitting there. It's actually a really funny image, is her sitting at the end of the boat solo. It's a picture I use for questions. That's a great picture. Actually, no, I use the picture of Brittany coming to try to console her.

That was brutal. We're very close to that. But before that, Angie, Mary, and Heather, recapping what just happened. Heather gives the rundown of everything. I think this is an important scene. Yes. For multiple reasons.

One, I'm sure Heather's questioning things at this moment, like, got heavy. Like, the confirmation from the two that are not involved, Angie and Mary, obviously Angie's got more of a dog in this fight. I think Mary's kind of the voice of reason like, yeah, no, you're right. You're absolutely right. This is what she does. Yeah. We know that she does this.

That was so cut and dry that Mary's saying that because Mary's not part of the dinner. She doesn't even know what's really going on. She's probably not paying attention to what the things are being said. but the fact that she immediately responds with you are a good friend you've been a good friend weirdly you are a good friend for calling her out but also we all know that that's what she does and Angie doesn't maybe you can chalk it up to her being seasick she doesn't pile on she doesn't have to she doesn't have to and again she's very seasick so maybe she doesn't want to but she could easily see this and this is another notch for Angie Kay not piling on like you have an open

beef with Lisa that you're not really dealing with right now because you're seasick here's a bunch of ammo. And she's like, ah, I'm sorry, Heather. That sucks. You know, I'm going through something similar over here. Yeah. Me in the toilet. Whether it was due to the seasickness or just having a good head about her and being like, I don't need to do anything now. Yeah. I can just sit back and let Heather do the job and let the rest of the ladies do the job. And I'm throwing up so I can't do the job. So it's kind of a win-win. And she leaves the room saying it's game over. Like this, and I hope that this holds true where it's like, look, you've got her up against the ropes. She has to answer for something or leave.

She has to answer for something or change her entire strategy. Yeah. Like, just stop doing that and start having fun again because it's been three seasons since we've seen Lisa just have fun on the same level as everybody else. Without boasting about her life. She lives a different life. She can't have fun with the plebeians.

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intrepid horror movie freak Hallie Kiefer and me your resident scaredy cat Alison Libby join us each week as Hallie forces me to listen to the twisted plot of yet another bone-chilling horror movie from classics like the exorcist and the thing the latest releases to the most disgusting films on streaming we ruin them all every Tuesday wherever you get your podcast so come join us and until then we beg you please keep it spooky meanwhile Brittany's flirting with Jason to no avail do you actually run the ship is probably the worst line you can open with the captain of the yacht you give me a tour

yeah sure i'll give you a tour oh let's go right out tomorrow i've been up since four leave me alone you creep yeah i know who you are let's get back to lbby on the floating dock and brittany after being shut down by jason goes out there to try to console her she wants no part this is your friendship with lisa brittany this is what it actually looks like yep the fuck yeah no can i just say that I love you, fuck off. No, I'm talking to J.B. Husband boss. I'm not listening to what he's saying either, but I'm yelling at him on the phone. I don't need you talking to me in my ear.

The claim from her, or the ask of J.B. Husband Boss, I'm going to the hotel. You need to be there or pick me up tomorrow. It is a 15-hour trip. How the fuck is he going to get there? No idea. What do you mean? I'll send the car.

Sure. Maybe. You want him to show up halfway around the wall. world because you had a bad night because you got called out for all your shit you're probably also gonna it would be kind of funny if he did travel halfway around the world and then she calls in the morning and she's like yeah it's just a misunderstanding i was good last couple of days i fuck i don't know but the episode ends with literally everyone co-signing mary angie heather lisa having and this is where it's going to be difficult to to get any headway with this because she's so fucking

stubborn her big thing is why do they do this to me i don't do anything to anybody it's like none of this lands i don't think no it definitely doesn't i don't think it's going to no i don't think the people are going to have the sympathy for because she's not answering no she answers some questions you might be able to get back into the group in some way but right now where you are if you're not going to take accountability then you're not going to get back in there needs to be some level of accountability i know it's not going to be full throttle because it's lisa barlow but this is not one that's going to go away because you don't want to talk about it anymore. And that's what usually happens with Lisa Barlow Spatz is she gets tired of it.

Yeah. And then it goes away. Yeah, for sure. That's not going to happen this time. So let's see what the audience has to say about it. Let's get some questions. Oh, this is interesting. From Anne Verone, do you think it's Lisa?

I think Heather and Whitney start the rumors and turn it to Lisa. I think there may have been a couple of instances over the seasons, the seven seasons that we have here. that maybe Heather and Whitney heard something, turned it to Lisa, and then Lisa perpetuates it, whatever. Any more, yes, it's immediately, Lisa. Yeah, I don't think that that's happening. Yeah, no.

From Kelsey Rinal, let's hear your theory surrounding the fat cucumber. No. Do you think that Jared gave it to Brittany? I think Jared gave it to Brittany. I think there's a chance Meredith brought it and doesn't remember bringing it. I could see Meredith packing for like spa reasons.

Like she's going to slice. I got my own fresh cucumber and the early cucumber I use now. I think she was having her Meredith evening doing whatever Meredith does in the evenings. Yeah. And she was packing. She's like, oh, cucumbers. I like cucumbers. Yeah, something.

Also, how the fuck did you get a cucumber through customs? That's what I said earlier. You had to travel through customs? Like, this is not an easy thing unless you didn't claim it. Hey, no. Who claims that cucumber? Maybe that's either not showing us who it is. from out of office mama

did Heather quickly regret her quote unquote accusations thus running after Lisa that was kind of bizarre yes and no yeah I think there was some level of regret there like oh fuck I didn't want it to spiral out like this so maybe try to rein it in but

the things she was saying didn't tell me that she regretted it no I think she did and didn't I don't think she regrets bringing it up I think she regrets how it devolved uh from Christine Bb8 I'm getting scared at another Housewives episode about bloggers are we doomed? This is

way, way, way different than O.C. Because one, it's not a newbie. Two, they're not trying to kick Lisa off the show. Three, we're not having full sit downs with bloggers. And this is also a sealed court case that Lisa probably has some sort of connection and was

able to get that out allegedly. I don't know what happened there. But it's very, very different than O.C. Yeah, if we got a phone call from that certain blogger that we did last year, it's a different story. Fucking try hard. From 77

Car bear 44. Whoops. I think the only reason Meredith defends Lisa is because Lisa has dirt on Meredith and her family. Probably. Could be going back to what Angie was saying. She's already said that she does.

Yep. Yes, that probably is true. But I'd also think that Meredith just doesn't give a shit. Ryan Stoman, 83. Am I the only one who thinks Meredith might be behind it instead of Lisa? No.

Meredith does things for sure. We know that. But I mean, I think Lisa does it to a different degree. Yeah, I think Meredith's got dirt and has certainly used it in the past. And we will rescind all comments if other things come out. This one just seems so very cut and dry. So, yeah. From B-Man, Graham 0727, it seems like Heather read the comments and is trying too hard.

Is she doing too much? This doesn't really strike me as like a scripted type of... I didn't feel like it was too much. No, I think this is real. She did in the past, definitely read the comments and try to, like, kind of sway the audience, but I don't get that from this at all. From N. Brockman, man, man, who of the cast would you want to go on a yacht trip with? I think I would go with everybody, honestly.

Yeah, I don't want Lisa to go. Yeah, everybody about Lisa. Yeah, because she just, like, they don't have fun when she's there anymore. Yeah. from Blan-Quizmiker. I don't know what that word is. Ismaker? No, M-L-C-H-R.

Melcher? Melcher. Okay. Would you pick up if Lisa called you and you were J-B-husband Pops? No, time difference, so it's I'm sleeping. It's the opposite. It's actually later out there.

That would be my excuse, time difference. Time difference, okay. That's fair. And then last one here Because we didn't really There's so many things going on But from Coya Baby Lisa threatening to expose Heather

While being accused of exposing things Is RH gold That is actually perfect If you really want to go down this path I got shit on you too Yeah honestly But I didn't I'm not dig it

But not dug it I heard it somewhere Different Yeah no that's incredible But what an episode Just top notch Top notch season so far I hope that it continues

use this way. We obviously have a lot of questions we need answered. Whether we get there or not, I don't know. I don't know. We've never seen this before. We've never seen L.B. held to the fire for this long, to this magnitude. So I don't know how this wraps up, which is fun. Usually we can have some predictions, and I am predictionless at the moment. Me too. Well, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. That's our show. Bro's got to go. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. You want to tell them? Or you want me to tell them?

No, no, no. I got this. People out there. People. Lean in. Get close. Get close. Get close.

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