Bros & Shows - Lisa Hochstein: Expensive and Defensive

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

What's up Bro's? We are in the MIA (actually were in Palm Beach) with the RHOM crew and this episode centers around Lisa. The group is collectively concerned about multiple things going on in Lisa's life. And for once we see the majority of the group on the same page. Julia leads the charge, rather clumsily, to address a litany of issues. Lisa's spending habits, her new relationship with Jody and how all of this could be effecting her children. While all difficult convos to have it does seem that the crew has her best intentions at heart. Meanwhile, Adriana sees an opening to take Lisa's side in all of this in an attempt to make a friend. Nicole and her father (rest in peace Mr. Martin) have a lunch where instead of meeting his girlfriend, Nicole learns about multiple siblings that she never knew existed. The season continues to deliver and we are excited to see how it wraps up! This episode is brought to you by Bubly Sparkling Water. No sugar, no calories, ALL SMILES! Go to Bubly.com to purchase or to find a store near you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I am your co-host. Russell joined as always by the one and only skiddy McGitty. What's up, dude? I figured you'd have some sort of like Christmas name for me. I don't know if you're waiting for it for the next one. I'm waiting for it. Why don't you just, uh, why don't you just do your thing and leave me alone? What about that? I can't. I'm always, I'm always waiting for a new nickname. Yeah, I'm working. I haven't had a good one in a while. Skitty McGitty I actually liked. Yeah, the only good ones you've gotten were like suggestions from other people. That's not fair. And it's just not true. I think it's pretty fair. I think it's pretty true. I think

need to continue and move on. You know what? Maybe I do. Maybe I just need to move on. Just get away for a little while. Head down to Miami. Oh, you want to go check out some gaiters? Oh, my God. That scene was ridiculous. Well, yeah, I mean,

most scenes are ridiculous when it happens to be an animal around people while they're eating food. We see that all the time. Or like the chickens on Potomac. Anytime there's an animal in like the vicinity of the women on the housewives, there's always some sort of issue. Oh, okay. I see what you're It took me a second there.

It's okay. But, yeah, let's talk a little bit about one of my favorites right now. Bam, bam, bam, we're back in Miami. Mr. 305. Mr. Pitbull. I still haven't figured out how to put sound clips on the soundboard. But one day, man. One day.

We're going to hit that. And it's going to be hard. Mr. Pitbull. I'm going to have to get that one in there, too. But I'm not a thing. He doesn't say that. I know. I'm going to have to figure out how to.

You're going to say it? No, AI, dude. I don't know how AI works, but yeah, AI, dude. You just get one of the ones that actually works, like Mr. 305 or Mr. Worldwide. He says there's enough. I'm going to get those two. Can we get DJ Call out in there? Another one.

That was that. That was actually pretty good, yeah. Yeah, your impressions are getting better now that somebody pointed it out. My impressions have always been good. Yeah, but now you're going to be, like, hyper-focused on it. I will be much more focused on the mess. I know how it works, yeah. Yeah. So you can blame Life of Ray for that one.

But let's jump right into this episode because, it was irritating and it was a good episode it's just I don't think it was like a good the highlighting Lisa stuff is irritating to watch and it starts out right away we're still at the croquet club we at least get to learn how to play croquet or watch them learn how to play croquet and the best part is how many f bombs they're dropping and god damn after a good shot like there's some funny things happening here we got nipples falling out like there's a lot going on at a place where none of this has probably happened before yeah No, this is one of, like, the trademark things that always makes me smile about housewife shows. Or even when you go back to, like, Crappy Lake over the summer, the way that they were acting around the people that are just there all the time. Yeah. It's always funny. It always hits different. It's sort of like when we get those dinner scenes and there's public reactions and the camera kind of goes around or that guy, when they're talking about sex and they zoom in on that guy's face and he's, like, bricked up as hell over there.

Oh, the old dude? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that one. Those are the absolute best. This is like that on steroids. This is great because the guy is the head of the Croquet Association, like the president of all of Croquet, apparently. Apparently, they have that. And this is the premier place in all of the world to go play croquet.

Grass looked green. The grass looked phenomenal. I will say that. But that's a golf thing right there, I appreciate the grass. Yeah, Bermuda. Yeah, that's some clean-cut Bermuda there. Bravo. You ever do that?

You ever see some good grass and you just wonder what it's like to hit an iron out of there or something? Oh, yeah. Well, when I played our spring training complex in Florida, the big league spring training, it was always so well-kempt. And, like, we would. We would take our- Take divvits out? Yeah. Well, there's like a practice field, so you could, like, take, well, there's a turf next to it. But then we would go out.

There's one spot where you could do chipping, but they put it there for that. That's nice. I know. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. Hey, I used to be pretty cool. Yep. Now, you're back in the day.

Let me tell you. But, uh... You're Nicole's dad? No. RIP. RIP. Yep. But we're talking about a lot of the leases shit,

and that's what takes in our stage this episode, and they're talking about the $10,000 on Insta car, the listing device in the car, why she's still driving Lenny's car, and something comes up that I didn't even think about. But why would you leave the house that one night after all that shit that went down and you had to call the police,

and Lenny was there, your mother-in-law grabbed one of the kids. Like, I didn't even think about that. Maybe it didn't happen. Oh. I don't think about it. That's where you think? Yeah, that's where I landed after all of this.

I do not think it happens. I don't think that something happened. I don't think that all of that happens. I don't think the cops were called. I think that she just up and left. I think that her and Lenny had an argument. You know what probably happened. I think I saw in the face time.

I think I saw red and blue lights in the background. Genuinely. I'm not lying. I could be mistaken. Maybe you did. Maybe you didn't. Maybe she had LED lights and she was just flickering. That would be next level.

That's like just trying to get sympathy out of my friends for this. No, I feel like something probably happened. I think they got into an argument. I think the kids maybe already were asleep. One of those deals. And then she brought the kids into it to make it a little more sympathetic. Rule number one. Don't bring the kids into it.

Leave the kids out of it. It makes sense because even just based off of how she reacts to it in the way that she was answering it, it's things were not adding up for me. Interesting. A little overblown. I like that, actually. Well, we get a quick little chit-chat between Marisol and Alexia,

and I guess this is Alexia's year or two. to call it out. She's not afraid to tell Marisol how she's feeling and it's refreshing because Marisol needs this and Marisol is upset because of the fact that Julia was asking questions about her ex and all these things. And Alexia seems to think it's not that big of a deal. I actually disagree. I actually disagree too.

Yeah, I think sitting down. I don't think it's not big of a deal, but I think it's weird. It's very weird and it does garner a conversation from Marisol to Julia to figure out what's going on there. like that's a personal relationship you know it's weird if she is sitting there with your ex and hearing all these things and alexia i see what she's doing actually and i appreciate the fact that she's trying to just smooth it over like hey it's not that big a deal right at the end the day she has your best interest that art like she brought it up to you like i don't think

that she was trying to dig for dirt i think that he was talking and she happened to be there which is never what i thought she would say no honestly oh she was there trying to talk shit she's trying to learn like about you so she can bring you down i think if she was talking shit with this guy, she would have then gone and told Adriana. Julia doesn't talk shit. She doesn't. And I feel like if that was her motive and she wanted to dig a little bit on Marisol because of the Adriana Marisol

issue, then she would have immediately gone and we would have seen scenes where her and Adriana are sitting down and they're talking about this discussion that they had at dinner with Marisol's ex and this is what I found out about Marisol. Maybe you can use this in the future. She came to Marisol. She told everybody. Everybody now knows about this.

It's Julia. She's not sitting down and talking shit. She's probably laughing at the things that he's saying. I wouldn't go any further than that. I think it's weird. I think you agree. It is a weird situation to do that. I would ask the question of, you know, how long were you guys together? Is this?

Because it's not an ex-husband. It's just an ex-boyfriend, right? Yeah, but I think it was a pretty serious way. Okay. Who knows of Marisol? Like she said later, she got married after a couple of weeks and a couple of months and a couple more months after that for three different guys. So who knows when it comes to Marisol's relationships?

I think there's an issue here. It's really just that it's Julia. If it was anybody else, she wouldn't really give us. shit, but it's the proximity to Adriana. And we already saw the issue last year where Adriana had hooked up with Marisol's ex before, and this was a different guy, and then she kind of threw it under her face. I think

that could be a little bit of PTSD from that situation. I don't think it's a huge issue. I do appreciate that Alexia is sitting down and standing up because this is two episodes in a row. We've seen Alexia and Marisol not agreeing with each other. And it's the same day in each episode.

Oh, it was a lunch, wasn't it? Yeah, it was the same. The sports bar that Larsa hated? That was the dinner the night before? That was dinner, I guess, the night before. So it's the following day. Following day. Okay. But same trip.

Same trip following day. However, it's still nice to see. Two different discussions. They're kind of at odds with each other. I get it. I'm happy to see it. I'm happy that Alexi is just trying to smooth things over because it saves us. We don't need to deal with this dumb shit.

I don't care. There's enough here. Miami's a really good show. There's enough going on with Lisa and Lenny. There's enough going on with Larsa with Gertie with all these other things. things going on. I don't need to be bogged down by this dumb shit. No, I appreciate her trying to smooth it over and the group pretty much comes to the same assessment, if you will, and says that somebody needs to tell Lisa about all these things, that she needs to be able to stand

alone, get away from relying on a man, getting away from relying on Jody, allowing that relationship to blossom in a different way rather than put all your shit on him. And I guess Julia is going to be the one to lead the charge. And we do get a quick check-in with Julia and Alexia, and Julia finally is to ask her about the comment she made about asking for permission from Todd to stay in the room. And we talked to Matt Rogers about this, and his take on it was simply that he doesn't think

that Alexia wants to room with Julia simply because they haven't been friends. Yeah. They are a new friendship. And that stands, I actually understood. I was like, okay, that makes sense. Like if I was bridging a gap between somebody and we were becoming friends, Yeah. It's a big leap to then jump into like, oh, let's stay together on a trip.

The way that she took it, I'm not faulting her for. I can see where she would have thought, oh, is this because I'm a lesbian? Yeah, bringing in Todd and saying that you need to ask his permission, that's when it gets weird. And she shouldn't have said that. No, she definitely shouldn't have said that. And I fully agree with you. I agree with what Matt said last week. It just seems like a, all right, yeah, like, you know, we're trying to become friends now.

I'm not staying with you on a trip right away. This has been, this is a very new friendship. We were at odds for a little while because of. of Adriana once again. But, yeah, no, I'm not rooming with you. Leave it at that. Just leave it at that. You know, this is going well.

I am weird to stay with on a trip. Like, take some self-deprecation in there and say that you're kind of messy. Marisol's my bestie. Yeah, I'm going to stay with Marisol. Like, whatever. It wouldn't have gone to this point if you didn't bring in that weird comment, which I still don't understand where it came from. But I don't think that, I don't know.

I don't think that she was trying to say it's because she's a lesbian. Right. I don't want to speculate on that either. speculate on that either you're correct that's a good point i do think it's weird that your responses i wish we were all lesbians i don't think that was the best thing to say but i think she's just so uncomfortable and julia recognized that too and to julia's credit she's like i'm just going to let it lie like i'm going to move on from this and keep pursuing this friendship because they do seem to be getting along really well normal reaction normal reaction i'm a normal

person who would have thunk but everyone loses their fucking minds because somebody jumps away from the table and screams alligator Adriana did it everybody is looking under the table they're looking around the yard they're trying to find this alligator I'm concerned the alligator's under the table I thought he was under the table too

where's the alligator I don't know in the fucking water maybe and then she says we're from Florida we are very cautious about no you're not I lived in Florida for five fucking years alligators are everywhere and you don't do anything when you see

You just don't fuck with them, and they sit there. They literally don't care about you. They're not going to attack you. They're not going to chase you. They just lay in the sun on a golf course next to the road. You can get up to a pretty good top speed, though. It's not a thing. Again, and a big public service announcement out there, if you're running from an alligator, do not do the zigzag thing.

That is not real, and that'll get you eaten. Run. Just run away. You'll get away. I think they're faster than we are. They're not. I promise you, if you book it away from an alligator straight away, it's not chasing you.

If you zigzag like a moron and slow down your pace, that's when they'll catch you. That, please don't zigzag from an alligator. Zigzag when, like, arrows are being shot at you. Shout out Rick on Stark. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, zigzag then, or if you're an apocalyptic. Oh, yeah, there you go. Yeah, that was.

Don't zigzag from an alligator. Okay, doesn't work. That's not a real thing. I want to race a gator now so bad. Please don't do that either. Bye. We'll put a wall between us. The biggest thing to take away from this, don't mess with alligators, but people in Florida don't run every time they see an alligator or people would just be in constant motion in Florida because they're fucking everywhere.

I do like the comment that was a byproduct from this when Alexia came back to the table saying maybe stop taking the ketamine. Yeah, maybe the ketamine, but then other people made good points. I don't know. She's actually pretty fun to be around. She seems a little happier. It's a little lighter and that's kind of nice. Throwing pages at me now? What's going on here?

The journals are falling apart, man. These are old. They're too old. But this is when the Lisa Convo kind of comes to it and where Julia clumsily, very, very clumsily starts discussing it. And instead of taking a friendly approach in, hey, we're worried because of this and we just wanted to make sure that night when you came over after all that stuff happened, like, oh, you didn't have to do that.

Like, maybe you stay home with the kids. We just want to make sure everything's okay. Instead, she questions her parenting. She questions what happened that evening. She questions pretty much everything about her being a mom. Yeah. And it was super uncomfortable. And I will say, actually, Lisa took it better than I thought she would.

I thought that she was going to blow her lid off. Like, understand where she is. And after that conversation that she had last night where people were talking about how much she talks about Lenny, which was a good conversation out with Lisa, because she does talk about Lenny way too much. And maybe she'll go home to Jody and stop talking about Lenny as much. She does. No, she's going to go home and tell them this exact story. Yes, I know.

And how can they be so insensitive to what I'm going through with Lenny? It was very clumsy. I'm happy that everybody kind of recognized how clumsy it was, but they didn't back down. That's the one thing. Once that opens the door, because there's nothing worse than starting an uncomfortable situation, starting an uncomfortable conversation with someone, and then having no backup, and they still want to accomplish it, and then we have the same conversation like three or four days later.

Because that's usually what happens. So they did stand pat. Alexia joined in. Alexia came to, if you want to say, came to Julia's defense because they are still worried about Lisa. They want to make sure that she's okay. It was not a great conversation, but I do agree with you that Lisa did handle it pretty well.

Aside from the fact that Larsa was just sitting back there with her hands on her back, just rubbing her back, like, it's going to be okay, Lisa, it's going to be okay. She didn't condemn them, which was good. I kind of thought that Larissa was just going to completely flip. I thought she was going to go Team Lisa the entire way and tell them that they're wrong. That is usually what Larsa does. She just didn't say anything, which is still annoying because you were leading the charge at Croquet. Yes, you were, and now you're silent.

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No, this is what everybody says they want in a friend until they actually do. do it. I want a friend that's going to tell me how it is. It's going to check me that's going to look out for my best interest, even when it's difficult, except when push comes to shove and they do it, and now they're being assholes. And if you listen to the tone of the conversation, nobody's coming in hot, nobody's trying. I mean, Julia was clumsy in what she was saying, but the sentiment wasn't, you're a bad mom. It's, hey, are you focused on the right things right now? Because it doesn't seem like you are. And I think Alexia, honestly, was the biggest voice of reason at this whole thing.

And I was shocked when she said this, because she was talking about her own experiences going through a tough divorce with Herman. And Todd was helping out with some of the finances, I think, as far as the lawyers go, because it was hundreds of thousands of dollars. They lost. I think she said that he didn't help out. Or did he ask if she needed help?

I think so, yeah. Initially. Now they lost, and she lost that battle and wanted to go back to court. Todd said, is it better to be right and spend all this money and go through this whole process or just move on with your life? Yep. And she says that to Lisa. And I was like, wow, that's actually really good.

Is this helping me or, or sorry, is being right the right thing? And I literally just wrote down, wow, because that is deep, it's intelligent, it's right to the point. And yeah, it's 100% true. And you look at this whole thing playing out. And it came from Todd. And it came from fucking Todd. But if you look at this whole thing, if you lay it all out there,

and let's talk about the kids in this, they will see all of this. As we've gotten proof from Jacks, we know the kids are going to look it up. They know how to Google. Poppy is seven. She knows how to Google. Okay, they're going to look this shit up.

They're going to see all of it. And where Lisa thinks she's vindicated because she's the victim here, no, man, that's still their dad. They're going to see you clapping back on Instagram. They're going to see you crying on TV about every single thing. They're going to see all of it. And even if you're wrong, this is going to affect them.

So at the end of the day, is it worth being right by going to war on Instagram in the comment section, by dragging out all these lawsuits, by coming back and counter suing every fucking time? Is it really worth it or would it be better to swallow your pride? Take what you're going to get. I'm not saying bend over backwards. I'm not saying don't get what's coming to you. Alex even she comments on it you deserve all these things right you deserve to win that's not the point here the point is can you still have a good life a financially comfortable life

a happy life with Jody with your children without Lenny in the picture can we just move the fuck on and you have some peace or do you need to be the victor here yeah what do you think there is a place in which because I don't at all I think that this is 100% a selfish vendetta against Lenny it has nothing to do with the kids it has nothing to do with the with the money even she was scorned by this man and she wants to fucking ruin him yeah and i think that is fair if you're thinking about it just from a logical standpoint but it is really tough i mean you're gonna sit there no that you go i i fully agree that lenny deserves to be torched right is it worth it right continue yeah and it's and it's

not the short answer is it's not worth it because i get it he completely wronged you he blindsided you. He kicked you out of the house. He turned people against you. He's trying to turn your kids against, like, he's trying to get your kids 100% of the time. There's a lot going on there. And yes, I understand that there are two things going on here. You do want to win, obviously, the custody battle. That is the main issue here. The other things, you just want to stick it to him because he wronged you. Yes. That's at the end of the day. But it's not worth it. And I think that's what Alexia was saying. If you were to, if Alexia were to go back and try to change, the verdict from the first trial or try to, I guess, re-appeal everything, you're going to lose

yourself in all of it. You're going to lose who you are. You're going to lose so many years of your life. Put the money aside, too. I mean, it sounds like Lenny's paying for a lot of it anyway. Lenny's lawyers, it sounds like. So there's a lot of things going on. You need to remove yourself from all of the Lenny things. Yes, you're still going to have to fight for custody of your kids. That's a whole separate issue. That's something that is worth fighting for. Yeah. You don't need to stick it to him anymore because you need to get him out of your mind. these things that he's doing, all these page six articles, all these things that he's leaking.

He's just trying to get to you and throw you off your game. And it's working because you won't shut the fuck up about Lenny all the time to your friends. They don't even hear anything about Jody because you're talking about Lenny the whole time. If you're so happy with Jody, you should be talking about how happy you are with Jody. Not talking about how he puts

up with the fact that you talk about Lenny all the time. That makes no sense. They're never going to be able to get to know Jody. You're never going to be able to get to know Jody. You're never going to move on with your life until you put this to rest. And it doesn't seem like she wants to. It seems like she wants to keep fighting. Hopefully this lands for her.

I don't know if it does because we still hear a lot of things coming out of Miami about Lenny and Lisa. Today, yeah. Today, literally, like, it's just tough to see. I'm happy that they got it off their chest, though, because this trip has, it was Lisa's trip. Come to Fort Lauderdale with me or wherever the fuck they are. Palm Beach. Palm Springs. Palm Springs?

Palm Springs in California. Yes. Opposite end. Come to Palm Springs. God damn it, Steele. Come to Palm Beach with me. I've got this whole trip. It's your fault. What?

I didn't like that at all. I said steel. I know you did. I don't fucking, don't you drop a hard steel in there like I have scored you. What the fuck was that? It was your fault. God damn it,

steel. You don't like that? It just felt personal. It was. I didn't appreciate it. Well, okay. Sometimes things feel how they're supposed to feel. I don't like that either.

But no, it was Lisa's trip. They're there. Two nights in a row. We need to correct your actions. We need to correct your behavior because we are losing our friends. friends at the end of the day. This is all you talk about. We just want to have fun times with you. And we're worried about your ex-husband. Yeah. And we're concerned about how you're carrying yourself right now because it doesn't seem conducive to a healthy life. And it really doesn't.

And look, it feels like a gang bang. All right? She feels like. I've never been in one. I don't want to be in one, but it feels like it. Ask Lenny how they are. I guarantee you he's been in a few gangbangs at your house. You were probably there. You just didn't know. The dirt bag. But we got a quick check in with Gertie and Russell. And, man, I feel so bad for her. And I know she beat it and she got through it. But, like, I can't stress it enough.

She just seems like such a nice, genuine person. So was Russell. Their whole family, it's a beautiful family. To see her struggle with this, it's so hard to watch because I just, I genuinely feel for her in these scenes. For sure. Like, man, I can't imagine laying in bed thinking about the fact that the next day, or even the next week, month,

whatever, you have to go through these procedures. You're going to start your battle against cancer. Like, that's fucking scary. Dunting. Donting. And she'd be able to sit there on a television show to talk about it. It's crazy. But all the props in the world for her for doing it.

And I hope that these women on these shows understand how much it does for people, I'm sure, watching that can resonate. It's just simply seeing representation where you're like, wow, I went through that as well. And it's nice to hear somebody talk about it and be brave and do all these cool things on TV, fighting it, because you're going to help people. So I love, love, love these scenes, even with the housewives that I fucking hate

when they do things like this as well, I still give them props for being open and honest because it's important. Not only that, but seeing a supportive husband. Russell's the man, dude. An actual supportive husband who's in the picture who wants to be there for you and is still on the TV show showing you all of his love.

That's great too. Now, Russell's the fucking... Shout out good husband. Yeah. Shout out Russell. Every time he's on screen. I would hang out with that guy. I would I would watch you have a beer with Russell. You'd watch me have a beer with Russell. It would be Todd's beer because we'd be drinking Todd's beer. I'll still Todd's beer, and you can have a beer with Russell, and I'll watch.

I'll just smell it once. Okay. Like a cuck situation, a different one. Stop it. I'll be in the closet with my Superman shirt on. Sometimes I like to watch. Anyway, we get to dinner with Nicole and her dad, and rest in peace, Mr. Martin, but

this is a, it's a different scene watching it, knowing that he's passed away. I know. I will say it's nice to know that they reached a much better place before he passed. I know that their relationship was tumultuous for a long time. So it's good to know that

before his passing, they had reached a common ground. But in this scene we get them talking and you're supposed to, or Nicole was supposed to meet the girlfriend who is 20? 20 something. Is that an exaggeration. I think that was an exaggeration, yeah. My God.

I don't know, man. Like, again, we don't, no king's shame, no age shaming. We say the same thing when the wives date some younger men. Hey, do you? It's not our place. Not our place at all. Mark must be packing, honestly. RIP. Only speak kind words of them, but, yeah, only speak kind of the dead and that 12-inch hockey was sporting.

I can't stress how much, I mean that with all due respect with all due respect truly we're not we are we're literally not making fun of any of this but we find out that he is planning on having kids and uh i'm not going to comment on that more so the fact that she has like five siblings she had no idea of it too that she didn't know about there i think there was three because when they started talking they were bleeping the names which is actually nice which was fucking hilarious because every other word was a name but every other word in between was fuck yeah it was great It was just bleep, bleep, beep, beep, beep.

Who the fuck is bleep? Who the bleep is bleep and bleep, bleep, bleep. But they, I genuinely think, as they were having this conversation, he thought that she didn't know about two, but he was naming names. I think there was three, and she's like, wait, who's that? Yeah. She's like, oh, they're seven and eight. Yeah, seven and eight years old.

Oh, so they're little. They're little, little. So as we've been bridging this gap between the two of us, as we've been getting closer, you didn't think But it's funny And this is This just goes To show you the power of therapy

They were able to go through A therapy session together Get a little bit closer Nicole continued to go To try to deal with her issues With her father She didn't lose her late She was so calm

She was so calm during all of this Obviously she wants to know the answers to this But she was articulate She was able to get through it She didn't get so upset that she left There are so many different things And we've seen a bunch of dinners With her and her dad before

Where she just gets up and leave She makes a joke about the fact She's cracking up. She's just accepted who her father finally is. And that is so nice to see because he's all over the fucking place, man. Like, this guy is wild, was wild. And here we are, and Nicole's able to just grin at it, and try to get through the conversation laughing. It was funny to say.

She legitimately makes a joke about the fact that he got two women pregnant while married to her mom and just moves on from it. We're not going to talk about that today, though. No. But the last scene is. fucking insane, honestly. I couldn't believe what I was watching. I don't know if you had the same reaction, but she takes a face time.

Lisa takes a face time. At the ballet with her kids, her daughter's doing a ballet lesson one-on-one, she takes a face time about Lenny and legal issues from Adriana in the room and is talking about it loudly. It's like, that's their dad, you dipshit. What are you doing?

At least, five to ten minutes before saying... At the very least, that's all we got on TV. I don't want to have this discussion in front of, of my kids, though. And then Adriana pulls up so we can go sit out in the car and talk about it. Like, what? You just went through 10 minutes of bashing your ex-husband in front of the kids. In front of the kids. While they're doing ballet. The ballet, poor ballet instructor is just trying to go through and teach your position one and position two. And here we are talking about pizza and French fry. French fry to pizza. And here we are talking about Lenny.

Once again, you learned nothing from that trip. Zero. Like, if anything, you might be worse. But that's my problem is they go out in the car and they're talking. And she's venting to Adrian, and of course, here, Adriana finds a window, she finds an opening. Ooh, I can be your friend. I can't believe how they were piling up on you, how they wouldn't leave you alone at dinner. They're questioning your motherhood, your parenting, blah, blah, blah. You don't give a fuck. You found an opportunity to find a friend, and that's what you're doing right now.

And here's my problem. She's like, you'd think that they would come to me one-on-one. What do you want from them? Yeah, they were talking about you during the day because it's a very polarizing topic. You got a lot of shit going on, and an article came out that said you're spending 10, grand on Instacart. You don't think the ladies are going to discuss it? They could have dragged it out for a couple of weeks and just been constantly talking shit. That's not what was happening. They were at the table concerned about their friend, reached an agreement,

hey, let's talk to her about it and help our friend. You want them to come to you one-on-one as a friend. They did that collectively as a group. They don't need to go single file and talk to you one-on-one. They were not talking shit. They were not trying to start rumors. They weren't talking behind your back. They came together as your friends, genuinely. And this was Adriana just, look, this is her doing this in spite of everybody else. Because we know that they had that entire discussion at Croquet. Who was not there?

Adriana. Who else wasn't there? Nicole. Who else wasn't there? Larsa was there. Larsa was there. They all hung out back there. Nicole had like the lowdown with everybody.

So we were all filled in. Adriana wasn't part of that discussion at all. She does not get to speak in front of everybody else. because nobody really likes her. She's kind of annoying. She's just going to make it about herself anyway. She just doesn't speak. So yes, you are correct.

She finally saw her opportunity. I'm going to get in with Lisa right now. I'm going to be a yes man to Lisa. This is going to undo all of the discussion that we just had while we were over at Palm Springs. Beach. Beach Springs. While we were over talking to gaiters and we had this really nice breakdown, we finally got this all off her chest. We got some answers at Elisa.

We told her how we felt you're going to sit there and undo all of that just because you would have to be nice. to somebody else. I can't explain how much I dislike Adriana. She's so fucking annoying. Just get her off the show. She's doing nothing but bad things. Yeah, this isn't fun. No. A fun moment. It's a desperate moment from somebody that just wants a friend, and

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right like where and i don't know how many more episodes we have i think we're on like nine we're getting close though because salt lake's done next week or the week after it's almost 16 weeks yeah well that's that should be normal honestly what is normal i'm saying it's crazy that we've been talking about it for 16 oh i know still feels fish and that's the sign of a good fucking season i don't think we get anywhere i honestly i do think that adriana's move at the very end of this just kind of restarts lisa i think she's going to continue to talk about it more stories as we know like stories are still coming out more stories are going to come out before the end of the season leis is going to continue to talk about lennie we're not going to get anything

from jody we're not going to get any answers i think it's just going to be more of the same i look the whole larsa gertie thing kind of got lost over because and that's a credit that's because you know what gertie has a lot of shit going on right now i don't need to have a beef with larser right now so larsa does get out pretty much scot-free but that's a credit to gertie for being cool and recognizing i know i just said i can't afford to have extra stress. She never, Larissa never really had to face

the fire on that one. But she, but that's the thing with people like Larsa, there's no getting through there anyway. There's no world in which she is like, you know what, you're right,

I'm sorry. Yeah. So it's almost better because we don't want Gertie dealing with that shit going into surgery either. Right. So fucking drop it because Larsa is moot. She's nothing.

She's null and void. No one gives a fuck because no one takes her seriously. True. Yeah, I don't think we get anything out of this, honestly. I think it's just going to end, and then we're going to have a reunion

that is only a couple of parts, hopefully. Yeah, they've been good with the two-parters. Beverly Hills will undoubtedly be a three-parter. But I think Miami, we have a good shot at only two of them, boys. But let's get to the questions and up first. From Christina Samath nerd. What? Chris Denise.

Jesus, damn it. from Kristen is a math nerd Now that we saw I hope you know I'm disappointed in myself I am when this happens to me But now that we saw Nia Renee Hill

Bill Burr's wife on Robha Do you think Bravo will trade Anne-Marie for Nia? Oh my God, please Yeah That would be a fantastic swap That would be great It has nothing to do with Miami

But that would be great No there's nothing to do with Miami But I'll save them We already did that. Whatever. I'm just keeping it. I went back to last week, so. Oh, nice.

Again, not a Miami question, but you want to talk about an upgrade? I'm just assuming, because Bill Burr's funny, so I'm assuming that his wife is funny. Yeah, like, let her get her feet wet. Why not? Yeah. We need a good friend of it. Better than Anne-Marie. Way better than Amory.

Up next from Sin Lou, are the ladies of Ron being mean to Lisa about Lenny? Or do they have valid points? They have valid points. They've been hearing this for God knows how long. It's been a year. yeah I don't know they weren't even being mean in their approach no they weren't they're trying to help a friend she just is she doesn't want to hear it I think from Lisa's standpoint it seems like they're being mean as we can tell because she has that conversation with Adriana afterwards and now she's being stoked by Adriana to make it look like they're mean from our perspective no I don't think they're being mean I thought they they had a conversation earlier that day about something relevant that just came out they came together as a group and said we need to talk to Lisa about this that those are good friends they talked about it right away they didn't wait weeks like we said they didn't drag it out they didn't have a little bit here a little bit there they left it all out on the table it's up to lisa now to just take that how she's going to yep well

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