Bros & Shows - Love is Blind: These Dudes STINK! (So does Kacie) (Love is Blind ep 5+6)

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

What's up Bros? Well it is no longer a mystery why these guys had issues finding love. They all pretty much suck. There is still hope for Jordan, but Joe has shown his true colors and Edmond is more concerned about getting some than finding love. We see the conclusion of the pods and then we head down to Mexico. But not before Patrick gets his heart broken by Kacie who for absolutely no reason, admits shes not attracted to Patrick. This show is wild. We don't even know how to properly predict anything anymore. But we are loving the drama. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well, no, that, yeah. Oh, our show. Wait. No, I don't know how to process what I just watched. I have a lot of feelings. I know exactly how to process it. With booze? That's what they were doing.

That was the joke. Oh. No, I know exactly how to process this. Not with booze. Oh, okay. I can tell you exactly what's happening. Let's get into it. I'm going to have me my bros and shows.

Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm my co-host. Steele Russell joined as always for the one and only with the one. one and only love is

bluder it's our second episode of the night god I thought it was just gonna be love as goots that would have been better yeah I would have made a little more sense yeah so I watching these two episodes woof one

we were fucking wrong about the format of the show I did see because I wanted to see if we were getting questions because I know a lot of people still weren't privy to the fact that we were covering this a lot more People have figured it out. A lot of people have figured it out now, so we do have a lot more questions. But I did see one saying, I love you guys trying to figure out the format of the show and being completely wrong.

We are. Somebody said, I can't wait for the whiplash. You're going to have in episode five and six. Five was, I was still trying to rack my brain as to how they're going to implant the rest of the castmates, the rest of the people. I assume it's like a reunion cocktail party. We don't know them. There's at least 10 more people that we. We just simply don't know.

I don't think we're going to see them. We never get to see them. No, they're done. I don't think that they landed any good contents like, yeah, see ya. I still had the outside hope that we were going to eventually, like, have a weird, there's only one way to put this, like, a swingers party at some point. That's what I thought episode six was turning into at one point. It kind of, yeah, I still thought that it was going to happen. But I thought like episode seven or eight, like what we're going to be getting tonight while you're listening to this or whatever the hell it drops.

I thought that we were going to have those people that we didn't get to meet come back in like a by the way these are the other guys from the pods here's the other girls from the pods and then you get like a chance like a temptation island type of shit I like that I thought that I still think

that's going to happen I don't think it's going to happen but in the back of my brain I think they're going to do that with the other people that we saw yeah they're definitely going to do that with the other people that we saw but here we come to find out I guess those people were boring and didn't get matched up sorry about it because that happens I don't need to see them did you imagine though

And again, you know, we're doing this because we need to shake off the rust, the rust that we didn't even know was there for this show before the Philly episodes come out. Yeah, then now we'll be ready for that now. Yeah. So, yeah, we've got to work out the kinks. Did you imagine after watching what Denver's like, what Philly's going to be like? Oh, Philly's going to be a fucking nightmare. I can't wait for them to like go to Mexico or wherever the hell they go in the Philly one. And it's like during the beginning of Eagle season.

I got to hope so. And they're like, I got to know what the hell's going on. I got to know. Let's go get dinner. Fuck you. The birds are on. It's going to be great. But, yeah, this is not at all what I thought was going to happen.

And I was still very confused during episode five because we were still with the same people. Yeah. And it was sort of just tying up loose ends. You have to have the breakup conversations. You have to have the first looks. Poor Patrick. Poor, poor Patrick. Yeah, that was a tough one to swallow.

I'm still not over it. But, yeah, still very confused. I'm like, all right, five episodes. Then we have a six episode. Are they going to introduce new people in the sixth episode? And then 7, 8, 9 are going to come out tomorrow, and it's going to be the rest of the pods. I mean, we shouldn't do this again, but I'm going to do it again. I think 7-89 is going to be, or 7-8 is going to be this, okay, like just seeing them intermingle in a resort setting one-on-one.

Nine, I believe we're going to reintroduce some people that we know. 10-11, everybody's there. 12 finale, who gets married, who doesn't. Yeah. Or no, fuck that because the way that they set it up. Yeah, 12 is marriage because 13 is when people come back because Mike is like, no, no, no, 13 is, did you get married? 13, oh, really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the scenes from later in the season, Mike says to Megan, do you get married. Yeah, we're so far off. Let's just jump in. Let's just jump in. We're not going to do this again. Because we start out where we left off with Annie and Brendan, Brendan with an E, not a knee.

and he's trying to sell this was sad this was just sad especially when he's trying to salvage this by saying nick's the wrong move it's a mistake yet he still is incapable of getting any deeper then what colors the front door that was hilarious that was so funny babe just like focus on what you're saying right now what colors are front door what colors are front door why do you think that's the line i don't understand Like, I do understand, actually, that is as deep as this man can get. Yeah. Is picturing a house that you guys are going to live in together at some point in your life.

Other people are naming their children. You're talking about the door. Other people are talking about being a power couple and what it's going to be like, what my job is, what your job is, how we're going to be able to take care of children. And yours is, what colors our door being? What colors the door, Annie? Look at the door. Which, like, by the way, and like, I don't really have a. feeling towards Brendan anyway, because we didn't get to see a ton of him.

It was just his interactions with Annie. He dodged a bullet. He dodged a bullet, but it pains me to say this. After watching these two episodes, Annie and Nick might actually be the strongest couple. They are, but because they're both assholes. Yeah. Like, they are the only ones that I'm looking at right now thinking, yeah, they're going to go to the distance and they'll be fine and they'll probably get divorced in like four or five

years, but... You're going to join, like, a Pentecostal church. They're definitely going to join. I was thinking cult. They seem kind of culty because... Right. Nick will think it's a joke and Annie will actually get sucked into it. But Nick is going to be the leader.

It's going to be like a Waco situation. Yeah. And he's going to be Taylor Kitch who plays, I forget the actual man's name, but Taylor Kitch plays him in Waco on Netflix. Yeah, and also a lot of those, and that was that tail end of COVID that all those started coming out? All the weird cold ones? Yeah, and like the Dahmer and.

Like Jones Town came out at some point. Yeah. It was a very culty time. Yeah. You know, I'm always down to watch a cult documentary. I think they're fascinating. Did you watch the Seth Rogen Apple TV show? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Jones Town. Oh, no. Jones Town directed by Martin Scorsese, but it's actually a Kool-Aid movie. Yeah, it's so good. I love that. That show, just a side note here, the first, like, it gets substantially better as it goes on. Like, the first episode was good, but by the end, I was like, this is a phenomenal TV show.

So if you haven't watched the studio, go check. Check it out on Apple TV. No free plugs, but hey. Yeah, why not? But anyway, so yes, we do have to tie up some loose ends here. We already knew what Annie was going to do. She was already sold on Nick. And again, unbiased, it makes the most sense

because at least with Nick and her conversations, as much as their assholes talking about, like the content of their conversations is brutal. But they are close and they are hitting it off. Brendan and Annie never had a chance. Yeah, but at the same time, everything that Nick is saying to Annie, he also said to Katie.

So, or Kate. Just Kate. But you can call Arcady if you're close. I don't know. As our friends now. No. But that to me is not a connection. That's just him playing the numbers game.

I'm going to just love bomb everybody behind this wall. And somebody's going to pick me. And he just so happens to be the most cohesive with Nick. So it does make the most sense. I agree with you. I think that they are probably the strongest couple after watching these two episodes. But Brandon, Brendan breaks down, obviously, and, you know, to my point of Nick being an asshole,

the next scene is, of course, it's not, I guess. We don't even get to Nick. It's not really. Brendan goes back to the men's quarters and is having a hard time. He's having a rough go because he realizes he also has to be a really tough pill to swallow to look at Nick and be like, wow, that's the fucking guy. It's incredibly funny, too, because episode six changes my opinion on basically everyone. I don't know because like the booze aspect of it

It changes my opinion about a lot of people I'm not ready to change my ideas It changes my opinion about almost every guy The ladies were handling themselves very well This is about the dudes Yeah but the dudes in this scene in episode 5 When Brendan goes back That looks like camaraderie

That looks like good dudes Aside from Nick who we'll get to in a second It looks like they have his back And I'm like you couldn't have picked a better group of dudes Edmund is just talking about how every time he looks at Brendan and he thinks he's going to cry and it's like oh man you're not really helping the situation right now Brendan just got his heartbroken but you know what it seems like they had his back I felt it when he said this one's going to sting for a while boys I'm like yeah dude yeah they got you though yeah they're there for you and before we get to the nick and any of it all Mike and Megan have a little sit down and they're talking about all the things and everything I'm just going to lump both of

their scenes together rather than jump back and forth. Because in this one, and I know what he's doing, Mike's manipulative as fuck. Yeah. Because he realized that the original game plan is not working. I'm just like your exes and you're going to pick me. Which that was a red flag immediately because what she was saying is, you're just like my exes, you're exactly what I would have gone for out in the real world. But that got me nowhere.

And he's like, right? Like, I feel that chemistry too. You're exactly who I'd go for too. It's like, you didn't listen to a word she said. Nope. And instead, he tried. to do the, I'm going to make you feel bad, and then you're going to pick me. Yeah.

And he goes to this whole speech about all of that. And then he starts getting, you know, put my shoes on, getting ready to walk. I'm not leaving early. He does the whole, like you said, he does the whole make you feel bad. And I've opened up more to you in these 10 days that I have with anybody back home. And I think this experiment's really worked with me. But also, I think it's because of you and how great of a person you are and how strong our connection is.

And she wasn't buying it. Good. She kind of opened up a little bit, but she really wasn't buying it. Okay, that didn't work. What's next? Let me bash Jordan. Yeah, let me shit on the guy that you like. Actually not shit on him, but let me allude to.

There's a problem here. What are we talking? There's something wrong. Tattoos? Yeah. Like, I didn't know what the problem was. The problem is that he's not Mike. That's really all the ones.

Yeah, and Mike is just baffled that anybody could not pick him. Once again, sir, you're on love is blind. Yeah. So clearly you're having an issue finding a partner. He's also not a fucking male model. No, he's not like a stop. It wasn't one of those like, well, yeah, she's not picking me because she can't see me. It's like, but like you're not a prize, dude.

You're not like a 10, bro. Yeah, you're a dick, and then worse, you're also not hot. Probably like a six and a half, but you're a dick, so you're a five. Yeah. But you're rich, so it brings you back to a six and a half. Six. But he's probably like, he's probably like the debt type of rich where he just keeps putting things on credit cards and transfer balances. Yeah.

Yeah, he pays off credit cards. Small loans. Yeah. And he's using his business. in his credit card for some fake LLC that he made up. One of those things. Yeah, that allegedly. But Megan, steadfast with Jordan.

She lets Mike down, I guess, easy, you know, lets him know, like, you're not the one. Sorry, dude. After he wrote a letter. Yeah. And then, you know, he's, he write, that was the biggest manipulative move. It's like, I'm going to pour my heart out on paper. I've never done this before because I'm not doing it now. I'm just trying to say the things that will get you to pick me.

Which he would have never done in the million years if he was your number one. Correct. This wouldn't be happening. He'd be the tough guy still, the fake hardo that thinks that he's better than everybody else, even though he's losing to Jordan. And she lets him off. Sorry, dude, you ain't the one. We get a really nice scene with Jordan.

And this is why I have my opinions about later. We'll get to that when we're drinking at the beach bar or whatever. But it, and I've said this for weeks, it seems so very obvious that this is the correct choice. Like you're smiling, you're laughing, you accidentally fell into and I love you, which is organic. Yeah, it was organic, and it's also exactly, and I have to give her props for this because she's leaning into the experiment. I love that. And she says it a multitude of times, but you're not who I would go after in the real world, but that's the whole point of this. And we have a really good rapport, and we're really opening up, and we're getting deep.

So I am going to go with you. I'm like, good for you, Megan. How about Sparkle Megan climbing the ranks? Never would have. It was close. There was a chance there where I thought she was actually going to pick Mike early in the episode, the first conversation that she had with Mike. I'm like, if you do this, you're going to be fucked because we're not going to like you. But she didn't.

I like Sparkle Megan. I like Sparkle Megan maybe the most. She's my number one for sure. And I think Calabria is still my number one. Calabria. She's just so real. Especially after the conversation with Edmund, I'm like, fuck yeah, KB. Edmund's not my number one, but Calabria might have been plummeted, plummeted to the bottom.

Jordan still has a chance here. That was my point about later. It's like, I think what we saw there is he is 29 years old. and I think he leaned into the booze and I think that he's with a mature woman now and he's never done that before and I think he overstepped and I think if I have him pegged correctly

that's going to be a teachable moment in which he's like I'm not going to do that again he's a dad yeah we'll see how that one plays out but let's get back to Annie and Nick again saying everything that he said to Kate so I'm not blown away but Annie sure as hell is he's like I've got both hands on the wall now

and now I'm getting on my knee and I cannot listen to her say, thanks for choosing me, putting me first, choosing me, telling me that, we get it, okay, we get it. I also don't think it's necessarily. I know exactly what she's doing. She's just drawing parallels to the conversation she had with Brendan, where she said, you didn't choose me at all, you could have chosen me, you were in my number one. I also think that what she was saying to him didn't actually correlate with what happened in the room.

It didn't apply at all. It didn't apply at all. What are you talking about? And then it also still doesn't really apply to Nick, because, Nick didn't really choose you, which is going to be important when they bring back Kate, because you're going to find out. Yep, you're going to find out exactly what's going on with those other connections. So, yeah, this was, I mean, Annie and Nick scenes are just tough ones to get through, to be honest.

I don't like them. They make God for 1.5 speed and plus 10, because I was doing a couple of plus tens. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because he says the same shit over and over. I don't need to see it. Like, you're not going to tell me anything more about the two of you or your connection that I don't already know. No.

So what do I care? Yeah, I don't care. And proposal, and he says, yes, shocker. And he's back with the boys. I didn't see you there, Brendan. Fuck you. Yeah. Yeah, you did.

There's five of you left. Of course, you're sorry, six. Yeah. Yes, you saw him. You knew he was in there. You came in like, eh, and then you want to play the card of like, dude, I'm so sorry, man. And then who the fuck's going to go over to the guy that you just stole his girl and be like, hey, man. Of course, Brendan, who takes nice like that, just give me a sec.

you piece of shit. Not right now, bro. Especially you. If it was anybody, that's the funniest part because you see later when Jordan gets hitched or gets engaged,

Mike is probably in that room. Everyone still jumps up and they're hell yeah, dude. No one jumps up for Nick because nobody likes you. Yeah, Mike was definitely in that room because Mike even came over afterwards and was like, good.

We're good. Yeah, which I thought was a good move. I thought that was a good move. I thought that was actually kind of nice and I respect that. But this one, absolutely not. Brendan was still sitting there. You also put two and two together, and so did Brendan,

that you guys were going after the same girl. You already knew that. He also plays dumb with that. I didn't know that that was going on. Oh, my God, I didn't know he was there. Like, pick a lane. Either you didn't see him or you didn't know that he was also going for Annie. Like, it's just so stupid.

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I was like, something happens. How about that? I saw bubbles. And then they disappeared and you liked it with like a thumbs up or something. I was like, oh, something happened. I was, all I was going to say, and this probably would have given it away. Oh, so you're still in episode five. Yeah, and I would have been like that.

That would have been like, oh, fuck, something happens at episode six, so then I deleted that. Yeah, I saw it. I saw it happen in real time, and that by you not trying to give it away, gave it away. But this scene initially, I'm like, wow, they're really into each other. Casey's all over them. She seems super happy. He's stoked, obviously. This seems like a genuine connection.

This is one of the least awkward first looks that we've seen thus far. It got me feeling good about everything. And, you know, he doesn't know how to say pheromones, but that's okay. There's pharmones. The pheromones were through the roof. Everything's looking good for Patrick and Casey. He tried to find the most romantic spot in that whole room to actually do it too. Next to the bench he was sitting on.

Just go behind the bench. Let's go over here. This looks okay. Yeah, let's just do this. I don't know. But they were kissing a shit ton. And maybe this should have been a red flag right away. Because it goes right back to the conversation they had

where Casey just starts going off on everything's physical. And it's like, that's not the point of this show. So not going to work. No, so that sets the stage for episode six. But before we get there, we get Nick and Annie's first look. That's a perfect way to say it. Yeah. I fucking hated all of this.

I hated it from start to finish. I knew they were going to like each other, too. I hated that Annie thought that he was a mountain man with a beard? Based on what? Based on one of his jokes, maybe? Like, look at any of the jokes that he told you and realize that guy doesn't have a beard and probably can't grow facial hair. Definitely can't grow normal for it.

It'd be like that patchy, weird shit that I used to have. But, like, in what world is this man big and burly in a mountain? Because he lives on a mountain? That's not the stipulation. A clean cut, but I live on a mountain. That doesn't make sense. It's not the same thing, dude. You live in a nice house that is adjacent to a way mountain.

It's not a shot at Denver, but like he looks like the guy that lives in Denver. Yeah, like the typical guy who works a corporate job in Denver. And likes to quote unquote hike on like the prefabricated trails that everyone's hike. Also, it's Denver. It's not like he said he had a house in what Dylan or whatever. He lives in, which I don't know geography of Colorado, but. Dylan's an hour away according to him. Okay.

It's not like he said he lives in the mountains. No. So what are we doing? Summised that from what he had said This, if you didn't show me Nick and I just listened to him how he looks is how I would think

he looks. Almost to the tee. Top to bottom, even his stupid-ass tattoo that probably means nothing. Where's a flannel but tucks it in? The fact that he came out in the fucking blazer khaki combo I'm like, that's you. That is 100% you. And my favorite part is

she doesn't like his hair. It's really short. I'll do the hockey hair for you, baby. don't worry about it. She's like, I would love that. Like, do that. Definitely do that. Then she goes to confessional, you don't have to change anything.

I'm like, bruh, you just told him to change his hair. Yeah. But whatever. They are actually perfect for each other as far as this crew goes. And then episode five winds down. And we get a, what looks like a hotel lobby.

Mm-hmm. And Casey looks a little bit fundled. It looks like a hospital cafeteria. Okay. Maybe it was a best Western or something. I don't know what the hell that was. I was trying to rack my brain. I couldn't figure that one out.

I don't know. But they're in the lobby of a place. Casey looks a bit disheveled. Looks like she's been through it a little bit. Clearly setting the stage for what we all know is about to happen. She's unsure. And this leads us right into episode. We don't have to stop and pause here.

We just jump into episode six. It's 100%. She's not attracted to Patrick. She's not attracted to Patrick. In any way, shape or four. Which is even more confusing when you keep jumping on them. It's also crazy to me. nobody is forcing you to say this.

No. You don't have to do this. And the way that they do it, obviously, Patrick comes out. She has this whole song and dance about how she's just going nuts. And Patrick's very understanding, very sweet guy. It's even worse. Very good person. It makes it so much worse.

And I did get it in that moment. I'm like, all right, it sucks. I hope it's not that she's not attracted to him because that would suck. If it is what it is and I take it at face value, I get it. I never once thought that was a fucking funky situation. Yeah, I know. But I was trying to figure it out from a different perspective. I understand, and Patrick understands, it's a funky situation.

You got to a point, you're getting engaged to a guy that you had talked to for a couple of days. You don't know what the hell's going on. It's enough to drive you insane. I get that. And Patrick gets that, too. No one, no one forced you to sit with producers and say, I'm just not attracted to him, and I don't think the attraction's going to grow while we go to Mexico, and I'd feel bad going to Mexico with him,

knowing that I'm not attracted to him. Nobody told, nobody made you say that. You could have lied your ass off and gone away, and we could have just assumed maybe you weren't attracted to him, but take you for your word. And then we would forget about you within a week. Now we hate you. Now we hate you.

Yep. Like, why did you do that? The worst part. It's such a stupid move. The worst part, dude, is Patrick trying so hard. Be like, well, no, see, you have to bawl. And she's trying to say, like, no, like, it's done. Yeah.

Like, can't quite say it. And Patrick's like, we'll just. I felt bad. We'll go slow, and then it gets more confusing. Maybe in a month we can go to buy. She's like, I do love you. It's like you don't, or you wouldn't be putting him through this. And then also, like, the goodbye, get off of him.

If you're fucking leaving him because he's not attractive, like don't give him mixed signals by jumping on him. To be fair, what I got from that whole exchange at the very end where she kept jumping on him, that is absolutely the type of girl that would follow somebody on TikTok and be like, yeah, absolutely, I'm going to move out and fly out and hang out with you. you and then start dating you. That's exactly, you did tell us who you were when we first started this whole thing and then you proved it at the end. And now this is what we say about you because of what you did to Patrick, who is still waiting, by the way. Yeah.

He still thinks he's got a chance. That's the other part of the Patrick thing. We talked about it in the last episode. I thought I got spoiled because they had an interview with him about, what was their name, Anna, that left early. And I'm like, oh, shit, Patrick never found love? That sucks. He never found love.

We had new hope with Casey. We were really rooting for him, and then this is what happens. Come on. Maybe we got a back-end story of Anna's like, I do love you. I don't know. It sucked. And Casey's an asshole. I think what comes out of that because that's going to be kind of compelling when they meet back up.

For sure, just to get her side of it. I think they're going to end up just being good friends. I don't know. And I kind of root for that in a way. I want him to find love. I like him to find love, but I also thought that him and Anna had a lot in comment. I think him and Anna, I don't know, like him and Casey, but then, like, now watching it through this lens of like, oh, okay, you're not attracted to him. The physical stuff starts to really replay.

Like, everything came back to like, I can't wait to touch you, kiss you, fuck you, you ride you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it starts to paint a picture of like, okay, even though this experiment is about the opposite, she was still bringing it back to physicality. And it wasn't going to work anyway. And honestly, I feel bad saying this because Patrick's a great guy. I think he saw her and he's like, oh, wow. she's hot. This is cool. We just talked about sex and she's hot and she might be into me.

This rocks. Yeah. So in that moment when she's telling him, yeah, I don't want to go to Mexico. I don't want to do any of this. He's trying to just kind of... He's trying to make it seem like it's not because of how he looks. Yeah, which sucks. Especially considering the fact that his entire insecurity lies in the fact that he feels not attractive enough.

Yeah. Way to confirm that, Casey. Yeah, good job. Dickhead. but let's get to Baja and Edmund and Calabria the way that this is going to change I'm just going to comment in the scene that we're in

is so funny because I'm like they know what they're cute I loved them in the beginning of this episode amazing right I thought it was perfect again we can't commend Calabria enough for just feeling out and really going in on all of Edmund's quirks

leaning into it he's got t-shirts he's got this and that and he just wants to massage her feet and he wants to I was going to get to the feet I don't want to you said massage her feet I yeah I know I was just going to say massager feet you don't have to do it wanted to it they forced that upon us not only did they force that upon us close up camera footage but love is blind Netflix USA's official Instagram account just has a picture of Calabria's feet with Edmund massaging them but Claibius there's no issue with Claibur's feet just Just issue with feet in general.

Yeah. I just want to clarify that. Yeah. Okay, it's just feet. I don't need to see it in the same categories watching other people chew their food and talk. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? You know, like Bethany Frankl sucking down a crab leg two inches from the phone.

That's exactly the same thing, actually. Don't need to see it. Yeah. You know? See no difference. Yeah. But yeah, like you said, this one's going to turn pretty quickly. It sure is, but not before Nick and Annie, who, uh, I think it's just an Uber Christian thing, you know?

You just lean into sex all the time. See, that doesn't strike me as very Jesus-like. No, but that's where I land is like, oh, yeah, this is, you know, you hide behind the cloak of God and you do creepy gross shit. Curtain of Jesus. The curtain of Jesus. Thank you, O.C. Because she's on your lap and you're like making Santa Claus jokes. Don't need that.

While you're literally bumping her up and down, don't need that either. Don't like you guys. A lot of these, and I knew it had to happen, and I knew we were going to have to get through it, but a lot of these, first nights in Mexico, we're incredibly uncomfortable. Well, they're going to be awkward. They're going to be awkward. First nights together. Very weird.

Yeah. And you know, they're all thinking about sex. They're all horny and they're all going to try to figure out how to just, you have to cohabitate with this person you've never really been with. So it's going to be awkward. It's going to be weird. You're going to see a lot of people not be able to make it through because you're

forcing this issue so very quickly. Nick and Annie still makes sense. I don't like watching them. But Jordan and Megan are really cute. you know like they're doing all the homely shit like brushing their teeth together stuff like that and it seems genuine seems organic i don't feel weird watching there was going to be a big problem when he turned the faucet off though i did too because it did seem weird it didn't seem like he was wasting water i don't think he was joking but at the same time

it's like that's one of those things jay where it's like hey dude who gives the shit first night maybe don't do that although uh maybe he's like california they probably do that in california no i think that that's who he is like you know he's not going to fuck with like wasting water he's probably into that kind of stuff, which that's fine. Night one, though, let's not, you know, don't reach over to a sink and turn it off. That's just setting a weird boundary that I don't think you want to do right out of the gate. That's all.

But they do seem cute. Allie and Anton forgot about him. Not confident because... Weirdly, I'm not confident in Anton. Ali did say a couple of things here, but... That's what I mean, but I think I'm not confident, but I am. And let me tell you why.

Okay. The ring comment immediately, I'm like, uh-oh, because he spent five grand on the ring. She says, Did he? I don't know what the rules are. I don't know what the rules are. I thought it was a joke that he was trying to crack

and then it kind of brought up a deeper conversation. He's like at least 10 grand. I'm like, eh, not great. Not great there. But okay, it seems like she's really into him regardless of that comment. He seems a little taken aback by it. So I think that's going to be an issue.

I don't really know. I think it's going to be an issue, but also it shouldn't be an issue because, again, the ring's already on her finger. Right. So it's a completely empty comment from Allie saying at least 10 grand. You could say, I'll spend all the money in the world on you just to make sure that you look good and you like what you're doing.

And that's how you have to, it's a completely empty commitment. The ring's already there. Netflix probably paid for it. That's what I thought. There's no issue. You could just be done with it right away. And instead there was a sticking point that was uncomfortable. The other side of it for me, though, I truly believe

that because she's so attractive, it doesn't matter what she says. Yeah. I think he's like, I don't know how the fuck I landed her. But if you want a $10,000 ring, I'm broke, but I'll find a way to get you a $10,000 ring.

That's the vibe I'm getting from Anton, at least for now. Yeah. Obviously, as we know from this episode, things change very quickly. But we get to Madison and Joe, which, uh, yeah,

fuck Joe, first of all. this was uncomfortable to watch she is trying her very best to stay positive she's trying her very best to lead him to saying the right things he simply doesn't know how to do it no he keeps trying to know if he doesn't want or if he doesn't know how to do it or if he doesn't want to both i think it's more so that he doesn't want to the way that he's talking to her i thought really bad for her i really like madison she seems like a real one you know and i i i don't think she deserves what Joe's giving her and the fact that he went to a confessional

to try to explain it now I'm usually into thinner girls and like you know somebody with a larger figure I'm like what the fuck did you just say dude like shut up what are you doing and she's like can you guys leave me alone you're gonna get me in trouble you're making it sound bad you're making it sound bad Joe you said what you said you don't have to say any of this this is the same as Casey it's the same as Casey stop talking shut up fake it I don't care Because here's the thing, bro, regardless of how you feel, you're engaged to this person. I know it's a Netflix love is blind engagement, but at the same time, you are 100% saying things that she is trying to make sure you don't feel that way. That's what she's saying to you, but you're such a dumbass that you're just like tip, the tiptoeing around it rather than just saying, yeah, I was a little taken aback at first only because I hadn't seen you yet.

But as soon as we got comfortable, like it all clicked. I love you. Let's get married. How hard is that? What did you think when you first saw me? This woman's a stranger. What? I was like, you can get out of this.

There's a way that you can see yourself through because it could have just been so easy. I didn't know what you looked like. You didn't look like how I had you pictured in my head, but of course you didn't. How could you? Nobody knows what each other look like. Everybody's probably in the same boat. but now I'm starting to figure it out. I'm starting to make the connection between you in the physical realm and you in the verbal realm.

And it's making sense now. I just made that up right now. That was good. You know what else you could say? I had you pictured in my head and you turned out to be so much more beautiful than I thought. Lie. Do anything but what you're doing. I'm not going to condone lying in this moment just because I, he doesn't think any of those things.

He's just, it was so bad. I'm just trying to find a way that he. He can say it without saying what he truly thinks, which is I'm not attracted to you. But then the big- Don't sleep with her there. Exactly. That's the big problem. The big problem is we now know exactly how you feel. We now know how you feel about when that door opened and you saw Madison, and then we're

watching the scene and you guys are making out in the pool and then you guys sleep with you. And during that, you're saying, oh, I love you. I love you. You're being the grimyest type of dude in the world where you get some and then you change who you are. I can't stand it. Madison doesn't deserve it because she is just trying to. to find love watching her breakdown at the end of this episode. I genuinely was upset.

This is really sad to watch because she thought she found it. And she's realizing right now this isn't it. And you have to deal with this fucking guy. And it's one of those situations where you're kind of talking yourself into it because I think it does take a very special type of person to go on a show like this. Sure. I have a theory about that a bit later. But for Madison, in your brain when you go on this show and you're applying and you're

telling all of your friends, what's the worst that could happen? This. I'm going on this show. It's probably going to be a little embarrassing, whatever, but it can't be that bad. Nope. Unfortunately, you got stuck with the worst possible situation. Yeah, it's worse than anything I could have actually pictured. But Edmund and KB are getting ready for bed.

This is the first thing that, you know, she's like, okay, hold on. There's a bug in the room. She's like, kill the bug. He's like, I don't want to kill the bug. He, like, waves the bug off. which is fine. Like, I know some people don't like to kill bugs. Not that big of a deal.

I do think it's her first inkling, which leads to the questioning later when they're sitting down, and we're just jumping around now. They're sitting down at lunch, and she's like, okay, hypothetical. We're at a club. Dude grabs my arm. It says, I like your girl.

She's coming with me, but whatever. Sets up a scenario in which Edmund has to step up and say, hey, man, get your hands off my lady. He's like, I wouldn't do that. I'd get scared. I'm scared. Yeah. Not great.

Again, there are so many of these conversations that you can lie, you can say some random shit. Edmund clearly can't lie. But this is a hypothetical situation. Hypothetically, you could be a superhero. I'd punch him in the face. Yeah, do whatever you want. And break his fingers. Say whatever you want because chances are this isn't actually going to happen in the real world.

And also, I think the Claibri can probably fend for herself. If a guy is being creepy towards her, she'll probably tell them off and then walk away. And you won't actually have to deal with that, Edmund. Instead, you have to be so true to yourself that you would call security, that you wouldn't want to do that because you just don't like confrontation. Why are we saying these things? I got the ick. Why are we, for a show where your words are the whole meaning of the entire show, love is blind. You don't actually have to do any of this shit.

You just have to be able to say things. these people suck at talking they can't hold a conversation for shit in so many different ways i mean i look at somebody like anton who basically can't talk he doesn't say anything he doesn't have any any substance he has nothing at all i do not know how that how him and alley actually ended up because we didn't see a whole lot of them and i still don't know how they ended up together everybody else you guys are saying the dumbest shit or you're saying the completely wrong thing yep and i don't understand that i don't either and edmund looking at looks like shit here.

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It's Halloween month. Yes, that's a thing. And on the Vulgar History podcast, it's also Mary Shelley's season. Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein, the book, when she was a teen mom on the run with her boyfriend, her sister. Lord Byron was also there for some reason. And this month, on Vulgar History, we're taking a deep dive into her life and world to figure out.

Was Mary Shelley the ultimate goth icon? Listen to Volker History wherever you get podcasts. Everyone gets together at the pool. First time, like, they're hitting the booze heavy. It's a resort, you know. Mexico, the sun's hot. Yeah, you know, alcohol hits differently than the hot sun, so you get a little loopy.

And first things first, Jordan fucks. And because Jordan fucks, now every girl has to say, well, my man, fucks too. There's only a matter of time before this started. Yeah. And you know what I love? I love KB once again. I'm not giving it up.

We get married. I'm like, hell, yeah. She's saving it for marriage, which is what? A month away. Yeah, like, come on. 30 days. Which, like, if she had said that and this kind of just, obviously we're going to talk about the whole conversation at the very end of the episode, it's not like you guys

are dating right now and you're a month into dating and she's still not having sex with you. Like, if that's a problem, then that's. going to be a problem then you have a conversation about it and then maybe you break up with that you have a grown up conversation about it this is a completely rare scenario in which she's saying we're not going to have sex until we get married if everything else is falling in line you have to wait what three weeks three weeks and by the way dude i met you last week like it's so funny but i'm glad that she stands her ground yeah she's like i'm not doing it

not giving it up good for her edmund is meanwhile talking to the boys who are all recapping like a bunch of fucking high schoolers in a locker room like yeah Edmund's also like cranking it to the stories about the other I know he's getting so fucking amped up about the whole thing and then he's like I'm not gonna I can't get married without hitting it it's like oh great thing to say about your fiance yeah to be fair I mean we did see him kiss the ground yeah but that's not that does didn't he said something in like the first or second episode about like now I'm like crying with a boner or something like this guy's gonna

end up before we even leave Mexico, he's going to find, like, a hole in the ocean. You're going to see him banging a coral reef. Yeah, like, he's getting close. That looks like a hole. It's uncomfortable. And then to try to remedy the situation,

he goes over for a foot massage and starts licking her feet in front of everybody. Yeah. Why? Madison's like, do you want us to get up and leave? Like, it's just a moment with you guys? Then KB's like, dude, you're running my friends off. Can you not be fucking weird for two seconds? No, actually he can't. No, I've learned that. That is part of it, which, you know,

it's not really KB's fault, but I mean, he is fucking weird as hell. Well, it's not as weird as Joe flirting with Jordan. Well, that little salt on your nose. Yeah. That was Joe partially alcohol. Partially he doesn't want to be with Madison. Correct. So now he's just in Mexico for free drinking and hanging out with the boys. The problem is, and this is where it kind of fringes on, and you've got a whole thing to say about Jordan, I'm sure, with this situation. But it does fringe on the, we're here to explore our connections, not to use Love Island terms, but we're exploring our connections right now in the physical form, and we're having a couple of drinks, but I'm still getting to know my fiancé, not hanging out with dudes that

I spent less time with in the pods, if you will, getting to know, and it's just dude time. Just because your connection sucks doesn't mean mine has to, but I don't think Jordan And I think Jordan's really nice. And I don't think he knows to just be like, fuck off, Joe. Go hang out with Madison. I got that vibe for a second, but then he started talking to Joe again. Yeah. I thought he was kind of blowing him off.

And then he reaches back. He's like, how many guocks are you going to have? Shut up, dude. Joe, go back to your room then, which he does, actually. He does, thankfully. But Megan, I think, and this is my thing I was saving for later, I think what we're seeing, once again, I said it earlier. Jordan's a little bit younger.

Yep. I think the day got away. from him. I think he had too much to drink. I think he was vibing too hard, wasn't reading the room, wasn't watching the fact that Megan is visibly getting irritated. Megan, being a strong, confident woman, goes, yo, you're pissing me off. And he's trying to, like, oh, no, she's like, stop, you're pissing me off. Like, this is a conversation

when you're sober. Like, I'm done. It was what a, and it obviously got a lot tougher as the episode went on, but this was one of the tougher conversations because he was drunk, but also we haven't seen a lot of these people. So we don't really know what their personality really is like in the wild, if you will. His personality started to suck. He just seemed so immature, oh, are you mad at me? Are you mad at me?

Do you want me to do this? Do you want me to do that? Like, shut up. Like, it was so uncomfortable to watch. And Megan, to her credit, did a great job just kind of standing her ground. And then eventually Jordan got into the, okay. Now, I get it. If you do think that I'm being annoying, just tell me to shut up and I'll stop.

Yep, which will lead to hopefully a conversation. I have not lost on Jordan yet. I think, like I said, it's not a Joe situation where then Madison and Anton are talking, and Madison's, you can tell by the context of her discussions with other people by bringing up the physical stuff a lot, that she's insecure about Joe. Yeah. That she's not feeling the love from Joe. Understandably so, because then Joe is standing there and she tries to talk to Joe. And Joe goes, Anton, what's that? Fuck you, Joe.

and Joe throws a tantrum, a weird tantrum, and says, I'm going back to the room, Madison being nice, is like, I'll come with you. He's like, now I don't want you to come. I mean, you can stay here if you want to. You can stay if you want to. And he goes back to his room. She goes back up after the pool party ends, which we don't see the,

maybe like an hour or two hours. I don't know how long it was. It was dark out. And, you know, and I literally wrote down, God, I don't miss drinking because I remember like, not this. I never did this, but like, you know, the wake-ups from a drunk nap and you're still hammering you're like oh my god like where am i i don't even i have no

idea what the hell this was this was scary yeah he wakes up he's completely out of it she's trying to take care of him asking if he's okay let me get you a water like what's going on he's repeating the same thing over and over again she's getting freaked out mind you she doesn't know this guy now you're stuck and thank god the cameramen are there you know like there's people in the room with her which made me feel better but she's trying to talk to joe joe is getting defensive he's getting he's getting agitated he's cussing at her he's talking to her like shit if i was her i would be like i'm done like after that yeah there's no reason to continue i don't know why and obviously we see scenes from the next couple of weeks or next couple of episodes rather and it seems like she sticks

it out i don't know how after this scene i think again like that's what sucks because she goes to the bathroom and she's like of course of course i'm like god like she thought she had it she thought she found it it's such a sad scene to watch because you literally watch her hopes and dreams just kind of collapse on her and then you go back and you think about all the stuff that she said all like how forthcoming she's been how honest she's been how like genuinely excited for this experience she was then you think about joe after the first look into now it's like wow what a fucking asshole this guy is and now he's going to stand in the bathroom drunk and cuss at her because he doesn't ought to control his alcohol intake

and acted like a dickhead in front of the entire party. And even so, she still came back to the room, scratched her back, and tried to take care of you. I feel so bad for her. I don't, I hate Nick. I hate Nick. I fucking despise Joe. He's the worst kind of human.

Yeah. And I think he's only going to get worse. I do too. I think it's going to get more brash and brazen and rude. Which, by the way, again, there is going to be by the end of this season, by the end of whatever the hell we're about to watch, I don't know how the format works.

We have documented very nicely. It's only going to get worse, and you're going to be able to look back and say, you could have jumped off the train here, you could have jumped off the train here, you could have jumped off the train here. Maybe you look like an asshole for a moment. If you weren't attracted to her immediately,

you could have gone back, you could have pulled with Casey. He's trying to not look bad. I know. He's trying to not look bad, but while he's trying to not look bad, but while he's trying to not look bad, he's making so many more mistakes and looking so much worse, that by the end of this, you're going to look like a complete asshole to the point where we're already saying, you're worse than Nick.

Good luck finding a date after this show, dude, because no one's going to want to fuck with you. I hate you. I've never met you. I've seen you on TV for collectively five hours. I fucking hate you. So nice job. That's hard to do, especially for the shows that we watch to get hated that fast. So, Joe can go straight to hell.

Madison, God, I hope she finds somebody that takes care of her because she seems so sweet and just once loved. Oh, dude, you know what was even worse? Oh, God, what? This made me feel probably the worst. Obviously, the way that he was treating her was terrible. She's still offering to get him water. She goes to get him water and it's dark in there.

And you can tell that she's, like, actively not really sure of her footing and walking around. He's drunk and repeating the same shit, doesn't care, has no care in the world, has not once been like, so like, what do we have to do? Do we have to lay this up and do that or whatever? Like, nothing. Just no care of the world. I hope he falls off the balcony and breaks a toe. I don't want to be, you know, wish harm on people, but he just deserves bad things.

I hope he trips over Edmund having sex with a coral. Yeah. Like, yeah, just, you know. That would be good. Just upsetting. I hope he falls off the balcony on to Edmund having sex with a coral. I hope he gets a sea urchin stuck in his foot. That sounds good.

Because that hurts. Yeah. I'll fuck with that. Yeah, fuck you, Joe. Now, let's get to Edmund and KB. Because... More uncomfortable. Well, not more uncomfortable, but back to back.

Tough stuff. Uncomfee. Because he's trying to power rank the couples. And you can tell she's not super confident after the day they've had, but she also has a positive disposition. So she's maintaining positivity, which I appreciate. Edmund's like, we got to be the strongest, right? She's like, ah, you know, if you ask me, sure, I don't think other people would think that. But, you know, it is what it is.

Who cares what other people think? I do. Weird thing to respond with, but okay, Edmond. Clearly, you don't know how to... A lot of insecurities here. It was remarkable because I know what he's doing with the foot massage. He's trying to set the mood. So she's like, of course I'll take a foot massage.

She's not being sexual. She's saying, I like my feet rubbed. I'll go grab the lotion. Thanks, Ed. Ed starts rubbing her feet. And the fact that everyone else had sex comes up. Probably the worst handling of this conversation that possibly could have happened in the history of conversations like this. because she's talking about it.

She's open. This is the, like, awesome thing about her. She's cool with having these conversations. She's cool with him crying. Yep. She's cool with all this weird shit. And he still shoots himself in the foot. He's like, I'm the only dude.

And stops because he realizes, uh-oh, yut sounds worse. Yep. Stopps himself. And then he, what she says is 100% reasonable. Yeah, guys I've had one nightstands with. I haven't cared for like that So I told him get the fuck out

Makes sense to me Makes sense to probably 90% of the people watching Yep Yeah You didn't care for him You just wanted to get some deep Also not like this is new information She told you all of this

And also like oh my God She had a sex life before me God forbid And this motherfucker Because it starts to take a turn downhill Where he Now has an issue With the fact that she had one night

stands not only because she was having sex with Randos, which is her prerogative, but because you give it up to one guy after one night, but I'm giving it my all. This screams the same shit I was saying about Nick. You think because you're nice, you deserve to get some ass, sir? That's the bare minimum. Um, so I think he's a virgin. Oh, I've got some in-cell to from this one. This is definitely in-sell. That's what I was saying with the Nick comparison. This is in-cell behavior. Nick, I don't think he's a virgin, but I think he just hides behind the Jesus cloak. I still think Nick's good.

And I'm getting virgin in-sell. That's a good. I think that he got this, thought that this was going to finally be his big break. And the other part of that is, and this is just, that's the specific part. Almost every dude, aside from Jordan, really, because we haven't seen a whole lot. Anton, I'm still a little wary of. Almost every other dude, this is case and point why you're single and why you can't get a relationship.

Correct. All of these personality traits, all of these mistakes and weird things that you've done pretty much just in Mexico in this episode, it is glaringly clear how you guys are single and why you're on this fucking shell. It makes it even worse because you look at all of the ladies other than Annie, who still, I mean, all things considered handle herself fine and just not like her. They're normal. They're just trying to find a guy.

they're not taking missteps. They're just being themselves. Meanwhile, you have all of these walking red flags. Ali could potentially be a red flag. I could see that one evolving, but the rest of them, normal. Seems super normal. Level-headed. And yet you're watching these dudes, like, step in every pothole available in bad relationships

and bad etiquette of like, oh, yeah, this is why you can't find anybody, Joe, because you're shallow and an asshole. This is why you can't find anybody, Edmund, because you seem to think that by doing the bare minimum, you were entitled to have sex with somebody. And then when you don't get it, instead of being like, oh, my God. By the way, let's just talk about what the fuck was that weird laugh that he did in the middle? I don't know.

It was like a high-pitched cackle. Like a hyena. Yeah. It was bizarre. And it did not call for a laugh. It made me scared. Yeah. And then when he starts crying and pretty much throwing a temper tantrum like a child about

not getting laid. That's sexy. That's going to get you laid. That's going to work. Cry and flail your hands around. And then try. This is to anybody listening, if you don't know how to spot an insult, let me just lay it out for you.

The minute you get this line, I'm just too nice. I'm the nice guy. That's their go-to. Yeah. I'm too nice. I'm nice to everybody. Or if you see a post where it says the nice guy always finishes last or... It's close to that blaming women for everything.

Yes. Like it's very close. That's the next step. But Edmund did that. He did that without doing that by saying to her, you're not having sex with me. even though I'm doing all of these nice things for you. That's blaming her for it. But KB's a fucking badass.

And she's like, I'm going to shut this shit down. We're done. We're absolutely done. Because if you think that you're going to get some kucci, think again, pal. And all she's really doing, which is very nice and, you know, not feeding into it, is shutting down the conversation for the night. Yep.

We'll see how we feel in the morning. And even while he's throwing a temper tension, I'm crying, she's still trying. She's like, okay, let's talk this out. Let's figure out what's going on. Yeah. And Edmund is just gross. Yeah. What a fall from grace.

And guess what? We, sorry, I jumped the gun a little bit. I was going to say, we've actually got questions. Hey, who? Now we're done with the batch, and we'll do it for the next three as well. We'll have questions out for that. But now we finally get to hear what you guys think about what's going on. I've been excited for this.

Let's get into it. First one up here from Donia for President. After episode six, are you still on the Edmund and KB train? Fuck, no. B train for sure, not the Edmund train, though. Edmond is awful. Oh, and Donia also was the one who said, also nothing more entertaining than y'all

trying to figure out the show's format. Thank you. Yeah, we'll keep trying. Yeah, we're trying. From B. Mangram 0727, did production go too far by allowing Joe to get that drunk? That's, it's a good question. A valid question. I do think that this, unlike other shows,

is really trying to hone in on the this is the person that you're going to marry. This is the person you're going to spend time with. See how they are. This is what happens. You run the risk, for sure. I think that the biggest part is, again, in the bedroom, in the hotel room, cameramen producers need to be present to avoid anything horrible happening.

I think it's a very important part of who you're going to potentially marry to see all sides. Yes, it could be problematic. but as long as you take the precautions to protect the person that's not inebriated, I think it's okay. I do understand where you're coming from, where I could cross that line. But like I said, people were in the room with Madison when she went in.

That makes me feel better, but it's a valid point. I agree. From Genes Sof, would you rather date Joe or Edmund? God. That's an impossible question. They're both awful for different reasons. Joe, I think. I think Edmund.

I just don't. I think I'd rather kill myself. Oh, well, Edmund, because you know if there's any confrontation, he's going to be long gone. He's going to cry. Just create a world of constant confrontation, and he'll go hide in a corner. Yeah. Yeah, Edmund's the answer. Easier to deal with.

I don't want to walk back into a hotel room and deal with whatever demon was coming out of Joe. Yeah. From Mel Alejandra, do you think they pulled up the aliens for the Denver airport and told them that, like, humans. Yes. Yes, I do. Only for the dudes. The ladies came out glowing this episode because of how bad the guys were.

Yeah. From Georgia Fuller, how scared are we for KB on a scale of 1 to 10? Scared? I'm nervous, but I'm not scared. She seems to be able to handle her shit. Yeah, and I don't see this ending in marriage. I do think that Edmund at the end of the day is going to be standing at the altar, and she's not going to show up.

I agree. and I also, like, as far as taking care of herself, KB seems to be able to, like, she had not one moment in that with Edmund flipping out, did she fault her? She was steadfast and like, all right, fuck this, I'm going to bed. So I'm not nervous for her. From Addie McDaddy, what's wrong with the weirdos in Denver, unhinged season from a Dodgers fan? Well, you know what? It's actually not your fault that the Phillies suck.

We beat ourselves. These are a bunch of weirdos in Denver But again, I think this just kind of put it on At least for the dudes, put it on a platform This is why these dudes can't get into a relationship And Denver, I like Denver, but You know, they can be a strange place. And when you get the dudes in Denver

That can't find love in a regular way, you're going to get some weirdos on camera. For sure. I feel you're going to get a different type of weirdo But it's going to be strange as well. It's just not going to be like this. Yeah, for sure. Last one here from DM Jazz Wall.

my heart broke for Patrick, especially since he had no idea he was dumped. Casey let him on. Casey absolutely let him. Casey's an asshole. We can all agree. And the fact that... But here's... This is...

And again, we agree. Casey did not have to even do that interview where she said that she wasn't attracted to him. You could have just walked away. But you do get the juxtaposition of Casey ended it with Patrick when she wasn't attracted to him. She did it in a very bizarre way. But at the core, she wasn't attracted to him. So she ended it. Joe could have done something similar and gotten away and didn't have this whole Mexico situation.

So there you see, yes, Casey's an asshole, but again, in a week, and I'm sure she probably won't show up for the reunion because of how things ended with all of that. We won't remember Casey. We might reference it here and there, but like. Well, you and I will easily, but like the mass media, the mass people online on Twitter aren't going to talk about Casey after another week or so. We're going to forget about all of that. We're going to feel bad for Patrick. We'll be like, oh, well, look, Patrick's back. this is great but for joe he's going to continue to do this and it's only going to get worse and he's

going to die alone yeah because he's a piece of shit correct and he deserves that after watching and that was like yeah that made me so sad yeah so so very sad for madison who seems like such a sweet person so fuck you joe nice questions guys yeah so we'll uh we'll internally figure out what we're going to do because the next batch drops and a threesome uh we'll have to watch the episodes and then probably figure out. Yeah, if we're going to group them or not, depends on the context and content of each episode. And we'll have those out before the next grouping.

There's other three drop. So that'll be next Wednesday. So we'll have that out. I don't be surprised I do a two drop and then a one drop with the finale. Supposedly it's another three drop and then a one drop. Okay. We'll see how it goes. All right.

Well, keep tuning in. It's a blast to cover. This I genuinely felt uncomfortable. Yeah. Multiple times. Which we need to make sure that you guys feel uncomfortable, too. Yeah, that's why we keep talking about feet and stuff. But that's all I got.

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